[meteorite-list] NWA 980
G'day List, Some of you may remember my post a week or so about NWA 980. I have a photo from Mike Farmer (Thanks Mike) showing a piece of NWA 980 with a large white inclusion which I have added to the NWA 980 page in the new section of my website. I have a question about this meteorite though. All other meteorites that haveinclusions, are basically justthe one mineral/formation. (I could be wrong there! ;-)) But in NWA 980 the inclusions look to havechondrules. Can anyone say how these would come to form this way? And what would the inclusions consist of? A very interesting meteorite either way! The link to the page is: http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/oddsends/NWA 980.html Thanks again, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteoritesaustralia.com (P.S. In case anyone is interested, Mike'spiece is forauction on eBay.)
Re: [meteorite-list] recents news from nwa
aziz habibi wrote: please check http://fr.photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi Hello Habibi, hello List, Thank you for sharing these pictures with us. No need to tell you that these beauties knock one's socks off! 2= howardites a 600 gr it look like nwa 1109 but this one is more dark grey nwa 1109 is more clair color Maybe these howardite can be paired with NWA 982 which also displays a darker gray color than NWA 1109. 3=new type of zag this 6300 gr has a nice black fresh crust and is very magnetic with no apparent chondrules, after i cut it look like a mixed texture of crystalised stone, i think its intersting for analysis. Looking at picture #5: Could that be part of El Hammami? But we all know how hard it is to tell from pictures. 4=wow its 12,5 kilos of a nice oriented and the best thumbprinted stone i have ever seen wonderful, ... Something to dream about. Looks like the 27.3-kg Mbale main mass, which has equally beautiful thumbprints and a similar shape. Mbale is an L6 - for some meteoriticists an L5-6. Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich 2002 ad
Hi list members ! In agency of my friend Erich I want to inform you, that he will be on the Munich Mineral Show (Münchner Mineralientage 2002). You can find him at exhibition stand A4.626 - Erich's Meteorites He has various new stuff to offer - a lot of lunar and martian meteorites, different HEDs and new NWAs. As a great attraction the new german meteorite Neuschwanstein is there to see. Best wishes from Austria, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay Auctions NWA Complete Meteorites
Hello all I have put some NWA all cut and polished ready for re-sale, if interested take a look here http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite;excite.it/ Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite;excite.it/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gifhorn Meteorite Show
Hallo List, if you are interested, you can find some photos that I made during the last weekend at the 5th International Meteorite Show in Gifhorn/Germany. It may take some seconds till the pages come up, because I tried to made the photos in a good quality. Copy the following link into your browser, than klick on the left side on the button where you can see "Gifhorn 2002" http://www.strufe.net Have fun to see the photos. Best regards from Germany === Hanno Strufe Home position on planet Earth Langenbergstrasse 32 N 49.21 092; 66954 Pirmasens E 007.53 558; 358 m Germany Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105 www.strufe.net IMCA #4267 ===
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Hello, Hanno, again a perfect and beautiful documentation of a great show. Thank you very much for sharing these memories with us. Whished I could have been there! :-( Heike will be at the Munich Show locatedwith " Guests from Overseas". She would be very delighted if you drop by and say Hello. -- Best_regards Best regards from DOWN-UNDER, Norbert Heike Kammel ROCKS ON FIRE IMCA #3420 www.rocksonfire.com Original Message Subject: [meteorite-list] Gifhorn Meteorite Show Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 19:22:34 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo List, if you are interested, you can find some photos that I made during the last weekend at the 5th International Meteorite Show in Gifhorn/Germany. It may take some seconds till the pages come up, because I tried to made the photos in a good quality. Copy the following link into your browser, than klick on the left side on the button where you can see "Gifhorn 2002" http://www.strufe.net Have fun to see the photos. Best regards from Germany === Hanno Strufe Home position on planet Earth Langenbergstrasse 32 N 49.21 092; 66954 Pirmasens E 007.53 558; 358 m Germany Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105 www.strufe.net IMCA #4267 ===
[meteorite-list] trade 2 continued
Remember last week I had trade 2? Well I have sweetend the pot even more. Here is what is in the pot: 1.4.4 gram slice of cat mountain 2.4 lunar micro's 3.2.5 gram slice of NWA 801 4.104 gram slice of 99743 5.1664 gram individual of the NEW CAMPO iron Now to sweeten the pot I am adding the Alomogordo 59.8 gram slice WITH AN ORIGINAL NININGER label, bought from mike farmer.I am looking for at least a 50 gram slice or better of Estherville or Portales Valley. Someone has got to have either one.Remember all this for either of the meteorite I'm looking for. s.r.a. = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 The Midwest Meteorite Collector! Website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball?
Hello List, I was taking the trash down tonight at 7:45 and noticed a large smoke trail or something. It did not look like a vapor trail from an airplane. I always look up, and have seen many a trails left by a plane. This looked different. It was one width the length of the Trail, and then it all started to spread out at the same time. Unlike a plane that would spread out at the end furthest from the plane. I live in Northern cal. and it was almost perfectly south to north. it looks to me it might of went to or came from S.F. So if any one hears of a fire ball report in N.Cal, please let me know. I have never seen a smoke trail from a fire ball so I might be way off, I don't know! Does this sound right? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the I.M.C.A. #6168 Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Meteor of 1860
Hello List, A month ago(?) I postedan article on a meteor seen be many people in 1860. The attracted a lot of attention and was reported in many states. The last week I have uncovered a few more papers that mention this event, and will try to uncover more if possible. I am going to repost the original NY times article from before to keep these all in easy readable order for everyone, I think the one I posted before was the July 23rd but I'm not for sure without looking in the archives. Mark Bostick Also...thanks again for your interest in these articles.
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 07-23-1860 NYT Part 1
New York Times New York City, NY. Monday, July 23, 1860 Page: 5 THE GREAT METEOR OF FRIDAY NIGHT The meteor of Friday night which astonished all our citizens who happened to be unhoused at the time was seen, it would appear, far over the country, and was, in its way, a most astonishing phenomenon. We have had the Japanese (?) and the Zouaves. The Great Eastern still abides with us, and the Prince of Wales in coming. The foreign and domestic excilements, however, were, are, and are to be, of this earth, earthy, or of the sea, nautically. A celestial, or at least a supraterranean visitant was needed, and the meteor came. The rule of parallax, evidently not understood by our ordinary street sight-seers, proves, according to the reports from various distances, North, South, and West, (we have heard nothing yet from ships, East, at sea,) that the globe of fire with the glowing trail of light must have been from thirty to forty miles above the surface of our planet. That it could not have been much more elevated, the explosion which accompanied its disappearance would assure us, the atmosphere being rather less than fifty miles high, and the transmission of sound being of course limited to that region. It was seen in Philadelphia at about 9 1/2 o'clock, say the papers of that city-rose suddenly from the horizon, about the size of the full moon, traversed an easterly line, dropping fire in its course, like a rocket, till it passed away in the southeast, like a red ball, about twice the size of the planet Mars. It was seen, under similar circumstances, at Danville, Penn., at New-Haven, along the whole line of the Hudson River, at Buffalo, Utica, Albany and Troy, also at Newport, Rhode Island, and undoubtedly at other places from which we have no report - at each place, appearing to be at no great distance above the spires of the churches. Just so the moon, at her full, appears to shine directly over every street in every city, and over every ship at sea, in those portions of the earth which she illuminates. We append a few of the communications we have recieved respecting the extraordinary visitor. The provincial papers in this and adjoining States come to us filed with accounts of the marvel. It is amusing to read of some of the events to come which some of them predict therefrom. The old superstition of "portents dire," it would seem is not yet quite effete(?).
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 04-21-1860 Janesville
Janesville Daily Gazette Janesville, WI Saturday July 21, 1860 Page: 2 Under a section noted: REPORTED FOR THE DAILY GAZETTE BY WISCONSIN STATE TELEGRAPH LINE, Office in Union Passenger Depot A splendid meteor passed over New York and Brooklyn last night. It presented the appearence of two balls of fire, each with a tail, and almost joining each other. The meteor dwindled away in a single dull ball of fire. It was a remarkable brillant affair, and attracted much attention. LA CROSSE, July 21
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 07-30-1860 NYT
New York Times New York City, NY. Monday, July 30, 1860 Page: 5 THE GREAT METEOR Call for Information at the National Observatory The great meteor of Friday evening, July 20, was probably seen far out at sea, by ships between the parallels of 35 degree and 40 degree N. All who observed it are requested to communicate the fact to Lieut. MAURY, National Observatory, Washington, stating as nearly as they can the position of the ship, the precise time of night, and describing the path of the meteor, its bearings from the observer, and its probable altitude. OBSERVATIONS AT VARIOUS POINTS In connection with the above, we publish a few of the many communications which have reach us relative to the appearance of the phenomenon: ON A NORTH RIVER STEAMBOAT NIAGARA FALLS, Thurday, July 26, 1860. To the Editor of the New York Times: As a contribution to knowledge in regard to the meteor of Friday evening, July 20, please accept my account, and let me state that I saw it from the moment of its emergence above the horizon to that of its disappearance in the eastern, and noticed every phase. I was on board the Hudson River steamboat New World, on her passage from Nork York, seated with many others on the upper deck, which had no awning or other cover to interrupt the view. It was about 9 1/2 o'clock, and we were just entering the Highlands, (say lat. 41 degree 18, lon. 73 degree 55',) when the meteor appeared. Admitting that the boat was heading due north, which, however, I do not know, then the meteor rose from a point in the western horizon a little to the south of west - say 15 or 20 degrees. Coming up vertiically, it passed over us a little to the south of the zenith, and descended to the eastern horizon, just aheam of the boat, which would indicate due east if the boat was heading north. When the meteor first appeared above the crest of the hill on the western shore, it looked like the fireball of a "Roman candle," of the same bluish white color, and great brilliancy, but much enlarged, the nucleus appearing about half as large as a hat, and, in fact, the first idea was very general, that some one on the hill was exhibiting a gigantic Roman candle, That idea was however, soon dispelled by observing its uniform, unretarded rate of motion, and its steady, long-continued movement upward and onward, and it was then evident that its vertical rising was owing to the immense distance from which it came, on a path parallel with the earth's surface, and from its great height - the effect, in fact, of perspective - and so also in regard to its disappearance in the eastern horizon. When about half-way up to the zenith, if left behind it a train of sparks or fragments of a redder color, like sparks of a rocked, but not numerous, the number, however, increasing as the meteor progressed. When near the zenith, but nefore reaching it, say within thirty degrees, the nucleus separated into two, not, however, with any appearance of explosion, but rather as if drawn apart by the superior velocity of the anterior portion. The two parts were of about equal size, and each seemed larger in front, the hinder portions being as it were drawn out to a slender tail, behind which, again, were detached sparks, from wich the bright white light of the nucleus had departed, leaving the read, rocket-like duller-colored sparks in its stead. As the meteor moved to the east, the white light of even the nucleus was becoming dimmer, untill this light disappeared entirely, and the red like took its place, and then there was a train in the sky, just like that seen after the passage of a rocket. The distance of the fight towards the east, and the diminished brillancy, made it doubtful if it would reach the eastern horizon, but it did, going down in a slender thread, or spark of duller light. The whole time of the passge could not have been less than a minute, because there was ample time during the flight to form, discuss and after opinions - most people on the deck at first believing it to be a piece of fireworks, intill the unaltered velocity and long continuance induce a change of opinion. W.H.S. AT SOUTHAMPTON, SOUTHAMPTON, Tuesday, July 21, 1860 To the Editor of the New York Times: Through the kindness of a friend who observed it I am able to give you an account of the appearence at this locality of the remarkable meteor of Friday last. At about 9:50 o'clock it was seen, about 25 degrees high, to shoot upwards like a rocket from the constellation of Leo Major, moving in a southeasterly direction. It passed near the northern crown, crossing the near meridian a little south of the zenith, thence onward with apparently less velocity to the southeast, three or four degrees south of Eagle, till it disappeared about thirty degrees above the horizon. It was remarkable for brilliant comiscations (?) throughout the course, and when on the meridian it assumed the form of a trumpet, or a comet with a narrow tail, the nucleus giving prismatic colors, while
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 08-15-1860 Banner of Liberty
Banner of Liberty Middletown, NY Wednesday, August 15, 1860 Page: 3 Another large meteor passed over this place in a northernly direction about dusk on Monday evening. It traveled apparently as fast as the other and threw off fire balls in every direction. - Monticello Watchman. (Finger pointing right) It was also seen at Middletown; and, although far inferior to that a few evenings previus, it is described as a most splendid meteor, far surpassing any similar phenomenon ever observed by those who did not see the latter.
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 07-23-1860 NYT Part 2
To the Editor of the New-York Times: As it is desirable that all possible information respecting the magnificent meteor of Friday evening should be collected, I venture to send you an account of my observation of it. On Friday evening, a few minutes before 10 o'clock I was standing with a friend in Thirty-fourth-street near the southwest corner of Madison-avenue looking towards the West, when we observed a lumunous body rising rapidly from behind the houses on the southerly side of the street. From the peculiar color and hazy appearance of the light, I at first judged it to be a fire-balloon, made of green tissue paper, and quite near us. But my friend, whose eyes were sharper than my own, Immediately discovered that the hazy appearance was occasioned by some light clouds which intervened between us and the luminous body. The meteor soom emerged from these clouds, and came on rapidly eastward. When about a quarter of the way across the visible sky, it lost its greenish color, and broke up into four parts, which continued their journey all in the same line. The first two had the appearance of blazing torches whose flames are driven backward by the wind. The other two were not nearly so bright, but had a smoldering appearance, and gave off a coutinual series of sparks. As the meteor moved eastward, Its brightness diminished very perceptibly, although it was plainly visible till it passed behind the houses on the easterly side of Fourth-avenue. Its light was very distinct, but softened rather than intense. The color was, as I have said, at first greenish, but changed to the ordinary color of flame. I noticed no noise as the meteor passed across the heavens. We supposed It at first to be a fire balloon, but soon discovered our error, from the fact that it moved almost directly from west to east, (more accurately from W. by N. to E. by S.,) while the wind, at the earth's surface at least, was blowing gently from the eastward. Still, it seemed so near, and its flaming appearance was so distinct, that we were disposed to regard it rather as some curious firework than as a meteor. It crossed the sky to the northward of us, and I should estimate its greatest elevation about the northern horizon at about 40 (degrees). From my point of view, at least 110 (degrees) of its path were visible, and it passed over this space in about 15 seconds, moving with a very uniform velocity. The length of the lines of fire as It swept across the sky was some 5 (degrees) or 6 (degrees), and it left no very distinct trail, as the sparks which flew from it seemed to go out almost instantly. Respectfully yours, AMATEUR NEWPORT, R.I., Saturday, July 21. Correspondence of the New York Times A brilliant meteor passed over this city last evening about 10 o'clock. It seems to rise from behind Beaver Tail light, on Conanicut, in west-southwest, and passed rapidly in a north-easterly direction. I was standing on a porch, looking in a southerly direction, when the phenomenon made its appearance, and had an excellent veiw of it, much to my amazement and gratification, as it went by at an angle of about 75 degrees or 80 degrees south, and at first appeared It seemed a perfect ball of fire giving forth a lurid light. It rose rapidly to a point about half way between the horizon and the zenith, and there indulged, still moving northeast, in a few meteoric gyrations, changing to the form of a chainshot, or dumb bell, and twisting so as to resemble the little balls of fire which sometimes follow the explosion of a rocket. The body here divided, and two portions, blazing, and leaving a long train of sparks behind, passed off into utter darkness, leaving no trace behind, and making no note of departure. The exhibition lasted probably a minute and a half or two minutes. The day had been excessively hot, and after nightfall there were extensive and frequent electric appearances all along the western hoizon. The meteor showed that shade peculiar to the Bengoia (?) light, and clothed all objects in a ghastly hue. These facts may be useful to scientific men in their investigations in regard to the mysterious visitant. TELEGRAPIC REPORTS ALBANY, Saturday, July 21. The fiery meteor was seen here on Friday night, about 9 1/2 to 10 o'clock, with much distinctness. The spectacle was most brilliant. At first it appeared like a globe of fire about the size of a man's head. It then separated into two distinct globular bodies, leaving a trail of light behind and traveling at a rapid rate through the heavens. Its course was direct from west to east. DANVILLE, Saturday, July 21/ The meteor passed last evening at 10 o'clock, giving as much light as a full moon. It appeared on the horizon west of northwest, and passed due east. It was about six seconds in passing. When directly in the northeast it broke, forming two parts, one following the other. Some minutes after it disappeared. A sound resembling thunder was distinctly heard. No clouds in sight. THE METEOR
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 04-27-1860 Janesville
Janesville Daily Gazette Janesville, WI Friday, July 27, 1860 Page: 1 From the Spingfield (Mass.) Republican, July 23. The Great Double Meteor Those who were so fortunate as to be up and out at 10 o'clock on Friday evening witnessed a meteoric display of unusual brilliancy and beauty. If it had been properly advertised, like the eclipse, it would have received more general and appreciative attention. A meteor of peculiar form and remarkable splendor moved across the sky from north-west to south-east, at that hour, which, judging from descriptions giving it at points widely distant, must have been a very great size. All observers agree in supposing that it passed very near the earth, but the fact that it was seen at distant points at the same moment and presented everywhere the same appearence, indicates that the eye was deceived by its size and brightness, and that it probably moved at a great elevation above the surface of the earth. We have account of it from correspondents at Greenfield, Holyoke, Northampton and Westhampton, agreeubg substantially with the account we find of it in the papers of its appearance in Hartford, New Haven, Boston, New York, Albany and Philadelphia. As noticed at Springfield, the meteor appeared of a light blue color in the northwest, of so decided a color as to give a blue tinge to the features and to the smooth surface of the river. It passed rapidly across the heavens towards the south-east, at an elevation of about 45 degrees, continuing to grow brighter and to change to a bright red as it approached. Just before it reached the meridian it appeared to separate into two portions, throwing off at the same time brilliant sparks, which continued on with the large fragments,forming a splendid train. The entire time of transit across th heavens is variously estimated at from half a minute to two minutes. Our Holyoke correspondent, who saw the meteor from a high hill west of that village, describes the parts as appearing to take the form of cones, the apex of one following the base of the other. The light of the meteor when nearest appeared to be nearly equal to the full moon. At some places people thought they heard a hissing sound from the meteor as it passed, and some describe the first cone as shooting fire balls from its small end into the base of the other, which passed through the second cone and followed on its train behind; but both the hissing and these remarkable pyrotechnics may have been imaginary or very much assisted by the imagination. Some describe the meteor as being stationary for an instant before the explosion which separated it into two cones. At some point, it was seen of a bright orange color,instead of red; other descibe it as closely resembling red hot iron. At Bedford, N. Y., it is described as resembling "two halfs of fire or reversed spear heads, one behind the other, connected by a link of fire something like a chain-shot, and followed by a steady train of disjointed, broken bars of light or elongated sparks; the last ball gave out sparks of fire, most of them following the train, one or two of the diverged, and were distinctly visible for some seconds." At Philadelphia it is described as "several bodies of a greenish hue; connected with a belt of flame; a long streamer of fire was in its wake." All agree that it moved mroe slowly than ordinary meteors, and that its progress was on that account very majestic and imposing. Of its actual hight none of the account give us the means of judging, and as it has probably quenched inself in the water of the Atlantic, its fragments are not likely to be recovered to real any portion of its wonderful story. (From the Albany Evening Journal, July 23). The meteor of Friday night was seen everywhere throughout this state and throughout New England, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. It is in fact chronical in nearly every exchange paper that has reached us since. It was certainly visible over a tract a thousand miles in length and fire hundred in width, and perhaps over a still larger one. Its size and distance cannot be computed with any accuracy untill we know the most distant points at which it was visible. At is was in full view in Boston and Newport, it must also have been seen from the Ocean. We shall have to await the arrial of the vessels from sea before knowing how far East it was visible. How far West, South and North it could be seen, we shall soon learn from the mails. All sorts of wild statements are put forth, one authority asserting that it was not two hundred feet high, another several thousand miles. When the extreme points at which it was observed are known, its heigh and size can be computed. The exact height of the meteor may not, at first thought, seem important, yet in reality it involves the whole theory as to the nature of these phenomena. The commonly received scientific opinion is that they are solid bodies moving in space, which take on fire by coming in contact with the earth's atmosphere
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 07-31-1860 Janesville
Janesville Daily Gazette Janesville, WI Tuesday, July 31, 1860 Page: 2 The recent great meteor was plainly seen up the Collingwood.
[meteorite-list] Newspaper Article, 08-15-1860 Janesville
Janesville Daily Gazette Janesville, WI Wednesday, August 15, 1860 Page: 2 (Under a section titled "ALL SORTS OF PARAGRAPHS") The meteor of the 2d was seen at Knoxville, Tenn., in Caroline county, Va., and at various points in Pennsylvania and Ohio. It traveled in the opposite direction to the meteor of July 20th, coming from the east and going west, but seems to have been at about the same distance from the earth, and is declared by some to have been equally brillant. The moon was shining brightly, but the light of the meteor was of dazzling brightness, and it made separate shawdows. If these things are to continue we shall get in the habit of looking heavenward, wich is not a bad way to look.
