[meteorite-list] Park Forest Pictures
Greetings List, Most of you are pretty much up to date on the happenings in Park Forest today. I'll reserve my comments for now on the unfolding events. I'm getting a hell of an education on meteorite recovery. I had only a fair day in the field, but got to spend the evening with some people whom I only known by name and through e-mail or web sites. It was indeed an honor to have dinner with Al Mitterling, Mike Farmer, Adam Hupe', Steve Arnold (the first) and Al Lang. More pictures available at photos.yahoo.com/stelor96 Click on Park Forest Day 2. If I can stay awake another half hour or so I will post some additional pictures of a house that had a meteorite come through the roof and into the bedroom. The room was absolutely ravaged. More later. Take care, Steve = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest debacle / Art's BDay meteorite
Hello List, It is a shame a person from the museum acted this way. Let us hope this is not a stand the whole museum is taking. It does make me wonder how much money they will be offering these people tomorrow.something tells me it wont be much. I just pay paled Mike about the cost of a decent dinner. A very small token of appreciation for the service Art has provided us.just think cable with all the channels here is $80.00 for one month. Hoping others will contribute as well. Mark Bostick Fair is fair, and these jive turkeys crapped on the private sector big time and betrayed the public trust. This is an outrage. As far as limited material - DO PayPal Mike $ for Art. DO IT NOW: This fell on his birthday and Mike has several specimens. The first should go to Art! SEND MIKE a Few Bucks now. There are about 100 of us that are fairly active on this list. If we all send a few bucks, that is enough for a good one to go to Art. (Lurkers, you are welcome to be in on the birthday present for the list benefactor!) Sincerely, Michael Blood __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City meteorite available forsale yet?
Hi Steve, Howsabout letting the list know what it went for? Michael on 3/28/03 10:34 PM, Steve Witt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Paul and List, Well I think I'll test the waters. First a quick correction. The new fall in Illinois is Park Forest. I have a 22.7 gram fragment to offer. Small patch of fresh crust 10% or so. Picked up less than 10 Hours after it fell. Off list please. Best offer by Midnight CST on 3/29/03 will have it shipped priority to their door. (CONUS only on the priority shipping). Actual shipping to anywhere else. Go at it, Steve The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] News about Lunaite Dhofar 489
Hi list ! We have possible early crystallized lunar crustal material ! Have a look at: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1284.pdf 2 pieces left, see my website. Cheers, Christian IMCA #2673 www.austromet.com Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.austromet.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Iwill sell
Hi list.I will be leaving in 30 minutes to go to the area.I know I will be picking up 3 nice piece's from my friend who lives down there. But If I find any myself, I will make avaialable to list members right away.And I WILL CHARGE an arm and a leg.Wish me luck! steve arnold = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a call from a man that lives right in the area of which the meteorite fell. He told me that a guy had setup in a parking lot and was paying $1.00 PER GRAM He wanted to know how much they were really worth. What do you think the answer should have been? Later he told me he had three big pieces and he thought $1.00 PER GRAM was not enough. Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle
Hello Mike and Everyone, I was afraid this would happen. Reminds me of Portales Vallay. Remember the lady who refused to sell her stone unless some very high price was met. What was her name? Nelda something? I wonder if she ever sold it. -Walter -www.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 7:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should "donate all the pieces" to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer
Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 ---BeginMessage--- I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have offered $5000 for several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at and nearly booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is what I am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us dealers, not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I hope some change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not make it here. I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one could be so cool but it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed a complaint saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! The police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really, what kind of crap is that? By the way, I don't suggest going to the police station or calling them regarding the meteorites, you will not get a warm reception. Mike Farmer ---End Message---
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
At 11:31 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. Well, in defense of the common man here, imagine yourself as someone who knows squat about meteorites except for tidbits that cross the news every now and then that tell of a SNC or Lunar selling for a crazy amount of money. Then all of a sudden you have one fall in your yard, it's all over TV, dealers are swooping in and setting up tables to buy it, Museums are clamoring for it - what would you think? I would think I'd hit the jackpot too. As a meteorite enthusiast, I think this would be the perfect time for some meteorite education. Set up a lecture one night to tell people about the different types of meteorites, maybe even have a few to show. Explain why some are really valuable and some aren't quite so valuable. A meteorite saavy public probably would have avoided much of this. After all, in everything, ignorance is our worst enemy. Steven Steven Singletary 54-1224 Dept. Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences M.I.T. Cambridge, MA 02139 Tel - 617.253.6398 Fax - 617.253.7102 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Tim, that is 7 times what 3 pieces were bought for, what are you talking about! Why arent you here since you live so close? Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. Tim Heitz M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a call from a man that lives right in the area of which the meteorite fell. He told me that a guy had setup in a parking lot and was paying $1.00 PER GRAM He wanted to know how much they were really worth. What do you think the answer should have been? Later he told me he had three big pieces and he thought $1.00 PER GRAM was not enough. Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle
Mike and all the others that went to Chicago, I want to thank you all for your attempts and to say that this will bite the asses of all that have pieces that want too much for them. Let the idiots have there day and think they are going to be rich. Let the museums show their true colors and disappoint those that think they are going to get rich by selling to the museums. Do not let this crap get you mad. I predict that in a month or so this stuff will show up on ebayat first for way too much, then the price will drop. As long as some of our members have some samples they will be able to tell the rest of us if it is real when it hits ebay. In the past couple of years on the antiques road show a man from Tucson had an Indian Chief Blanket on there...valued at $500,000.00+ dollars. My wife and I buy and sell alot of native american blankets. After that blanket aired on the Roadshow every blanket we saw at sales was priced through the roof whether it was native american or made in mexico. We tried to explain to the sellers the differences and they all got mad, said they would rather "donate" to the Heard Museum or what they termed "real" collectors and get the tax break then sell too cheap. Everyone thought they would get rich. For a while you couldn't touch the blankets. We left our cards with everyone and just left them to their own devices. Well then the bubble popped, the museums told them what they had were not the geniune items, and many that were genuine were not "Chief" blankets which are truly rare. Soon after the bubble popped we were bak to buying blankets for what they were worthand we did have the satisifaction of telling those that were truly rude to shove their blankets were the sun don't shine. My point is that these morons with stones that listened to the other morons say it was worth $500 an ounce will soon find out that they can't sell it for that and the museum is not about to pay that much and will be looking to sell the stuff. Afterall, all the museums I have ever dealt with have "limited" budgets. It is not like this is a lunar, how much of it will they actually want to buy? And if you factor in all the "wrongs" that will show up which will probably be 5 times more than the real thing the museum will close shop quickly enough. You guys that went there to get the stuff deserve a huge thanks from all of us for trying. It will show up sooner or later. When people think they have a treasure that will make them rich they are always anxious to get the money. When they find out they are not millionaires they will sell, and then you will be in the driver seat. Hopefully there will be plenty for sale soon Mark M. Phoenix AZ - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should "donate all the pieces" to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle
Hi List, Mike Farmer mentioned the specimens being worth $500.00 an ounce but when we were in the library asking around one of the ladies there told us they were worth $2,000.00 an ounce ($73.00/ gram) so it keeps going up in price. People in that area need to really get a grip on this one. There has to be lots of material around, including some that people haven't come across yet. This looks to be like an LL6 as others have mentioned. It is an ordinary chondrite and a quick look on dealer sites on the internet or if you wish ebay, those items don't usually sell for much more than $2 or $3 a gram (except in low total weight falls). What's a fair price?? I think the guy that sold to Steve W. for $1.00 got a good deal as well as Steve got a reasonable purchase. No one got ripped off. --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Matteo, yet you try to sell Afianello for $100 gram? ManyMany kilos. Get Real matteo. Good luck. Mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a call from a man that lives right in the area of which the meteorite fell. He told me that a guy had setup in a parking lot and was paying $1.00 PER GRAM He wanted to know how much they were really worth. What do you think the answer should have been? Later he told me he had three big pieces and he thought $1.00 PER GRAM was not enough. Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest
Wait, you just said you think it is worth $7 gram max. You will not see a gram for that. Mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest This is no just, the museum want take all pieces for no give any piece to the collectors, the all pieces go to the museum and after the museum have the all material and is possible sale or trade this pieces for a high price. If I am one of the persons find a piece of this fall, not sure I sale to a museum - give a low price - but I give to a meteorite dealer. I inform all I am interested in a little piece for my collection. regards Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More information. I had dinner and drinks tonight with Steve Witt, Al Lang, Adam Hupe, Al Mitterling and Steve Arnold, (NOT Chicago:). We are all outraged at what has happened here. Ill explain more. The fact is that yesterday morning several pieces were sold for $1 gram, not an unfair price in the field, low but no big deal. Then the newspapers and news told everyone that the value is $500 per ounce! The Chicago Field Museum curator was telling the police that the people had to sell to them and not to any collectors. So now many people are going to the Field Museum tomorrow to sell their pieces to the museum. They are under the assumption that they must sell them there as that is what the local police is passing on. The prices here are now not under $10 gram, and the people whose homes were hit are at $50 gram plus. Completely out of the realm of reality considering that many homes were hit here. If it were one, I could understand. Another note, the strewnfield is NOT 80 miles long, many people started reporting slag and asphalt everywhere. There are 30 to 40 kilos known, more likely but press coverage is extreme and everyone knows because the TV told them that it is $500 an ounce. So, it looks like if it isn't snowing tomorrow, that ill hunt all day and leave here Sunday. There is nothing more to be gained trying to bargain with the locals. Maybe later they will sell some, but it will NOT be cheap, I don't see how it could. I have a few fragments that hit a house, and with photos and pieces of plastic siding broken off the wall. This was from the impact on Winslow Street. If anyone wants a piece or partslice of these fragments, let me know, ill make a list, figure the price when I get home, and see which orders I can fill. It would be best if you told me the exact amount you want to spend. This is all Ill have for sale. Mike Farmer PS. Portales was a fun but stressful hunt, this one blows Portales to hell, people are very very unfriendly here, not all of course, but the Museum did dealers and collectors very wrong here with what they said, Ill be rethinking and dealings from now on with this type of bad press. I have donated over $100,000 in meteorites to museums, and now to have them telling people that all the dealers are here to rip them off really chaps my $%#$#$ = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece!
By the way, I found a very small fragment near the street where one impacted and shattered. It weighes less than a gram but I am thrilled to have found it. Mike Farmer
Re: [meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece!
Oh my god! I can finally one up Mike Farmer. Hey buddy i found about 50 or more of those. Now if I could just catch up with you on total weight purchased... Steve --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I found a very small fragment near the street where one impacted and shattered. It weighes less than a gram but I am thrilled to have found it. Mike Farmer = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Yes but Alfianello is 1883 historical fall, andd all pieces is in museum and is hard this exit, I see who sale Alfianello for $100/gr. go sold with no problems. The same for my Albareto, I sale for $200/gr. and this go. Many have write to me alfianello, albareto and other historical falls is ordinary chondrites and the price request is esageratedwell, Ensisheim is a ordinary chondrite, why this person not sale for $2/gr. ? Barbotan is a ordinary chondrite, why this is sold for $200/gr.? This person have a 200 gr. of alfianello, but when I have ask to sale to me for $2/gr. the piece I not have received answer, strange...is a ordinary chondrite. The same for this new falls, is not a historical fall, probably at 50 years this new fall enter in the historical falls, but now is a normaly ordinary chondrite fall with over 50 kg. + and a price of $7/gr. is just. Ask to a italian museum a piece of a normaly meteorite or historical, the answer is nothing, no money accept and no trades - very very rare the trades here - is for this the italian/historical meteorites is hard to find. Regards Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo, yet you try to sell Afianello for $100 gram? ManyMany kilos. Get Real matteo. Good luck. Mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a call from a man that lives right in the area of which the meteorite fell. He told me that a guy had setup in a parking lot and was paying $1.00 PER GRAM He wanted to know how much they were really worth. What do you think the answer should have been? Later he told me he had three big pieces and he thought $1.00 PER GRAM was not enough. Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via
Re: [meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece!
I am thrilled you did, the early bird gets the worm as they say. Hey by the way, I am not done yet, ill be hunting the forest all day today. I want the main mass, the cow smasher. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Steve Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece! Oh my god! I can finally one up Mike Farmer. Hey buddy i found about 50 or more of those. Now if I could just catch up with you on total weight purchased... Steve --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I found a very small fragment near the street where one impacted and shattered. It weighes less than a gram but I am thrilled to have found it. Mike Farmer = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Okm Matteo, let us know when you find another Pultusk fall in Italy. I agree that $7 gram would be just, but it is not to be, that is the simple fact, so if you don't think it is worth it, don't buy any, end of story. Mike Farmer Meteoritehunter - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? Yes but Alfianello is 1883 historical fall, andd all pieces is in museum and is hard this exit, I see who sale Alfianello for $100/gr. go sold with no problems. The same for my Albareto, I sale for $200/gr. and this go. Many have write to me alfianello, albareto and other historical falls is ordinary chondrites and the price request is esageratedwell, Ensisheim is a ordinary chondrite, why this person not sale for $2/gr. ? Barbotan is a ordinary chondrite, why this is sold for $200/gr.? This person have a 200 gr. of alfianello, but when I have ask to sale to me for $2/gr. the piece I not have received answer, strange...is a ordinary chondrite. The same for this new falls, is not a historical fall, probably at 50 years this new fall enter in the historical falls, but now is a normaly ordinary chondrite fall with over 50 kg. + and a price of $7/gr. is just. Ask to a italian museum a piece of a normaly meteorite or historical, the answer is nothing, no money accept and no trades - very very rare the trades here - is for this the italian/historical meteorites is hard to find. Regards Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo, yet you try to sell Afianello for $100 gram? ManyMany kilos. Get Real matteo. Good luck. Mike - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? Crazy, over the price of a historical fall.for me a price of $7/gr. max. is ok. No over. If is fall many kilos is another question. regards Matteo --- Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a call from a man that lives right in the area of which the meteorite fell. He told me that a guy had setup in a parking lot and was paying $1.00 PER GRAM He wanted to know how much they were really worth. What do you think the answer should have been? Later he told me he had three big pieces and he thought $1.00 PER GRAM was not enough. Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. I have been in 6 homes today that were penetrated by meteorites, serious damage to many of them. There are many pieces but as I said, people now want $100,000 for some stones and they are NOT JOKING. I wish anyone who plans to come out good luck, I will hunt tomorrow and try to secure a stone or two, then go home and let people get to reality. I do have 4 pieces totaling about one kilo, 3 pieces that hit a house and damaged the siding. The other piece is a half individual that impacted the median in a road, and has the nose imbedded with yellow street paint. I do not know if there will be any out for sale any time soon, the price is so high we are just walking away from many people. A few got a few cheap specimens, but very few. If any will come for sale from me, it will likely be quite expensive. I do not know what the next few days hold, more pieces should be found though so maybe we will have more luck. I will email more info later. Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
Re: [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City meteorite available for sale yet?
Michael, I will post that at midnight tonight. Steve --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, Howsabout letting the list know what it went for? Michael on 3/28/03 10:34 PM, Steve Witt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Paul and List, Well I think I'll test the waters. First a quick correction. The new fall in Illinois is Park Forest. I have a 22.7 gram fragment to offer. Small patch of fresh crust 10% or so. Picked up less than 10 Hours after it fell. Off list please. Best offer by Midnight CST on 3/29/03 will have it shipped priority to their door. (CONUS only on the priority shipping). Actual shipping to anywhere else. Go at it, Steve The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
Hello, So would EVERYONE else!!! Cottingham - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Poor Art!!
Dear List; Poor Art! He has a birthday. Meteorite falls on birthday. Meteorite creates list insanity. List uses a ton of band width. Meteorite is too expensive to get any. Band width gets used up. Art gets no meteorite. Happy Birthday Art, I have no birthday...solves many problems. Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will probably be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or sell them at a low price. Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is possibly a lot more of it to be found. Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable point . Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place. Watch Ebay. Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too. By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable price. Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in it...like a winged ant or something ;-) Just my opinion, John Gwilliam At 08:49 AM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA53-228e3e853f5f249; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:25 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA16-2e03e853f5156; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:09 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21421536DF; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84F4553557 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56793 invoked by uid 7111); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 56790 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2T6Vai22643 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from S0027239467 ([205.158.100.162]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id BAA28468; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2F582.2A3EFD80 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Meteorite Discussion Forum meteorite-list.meteoritecentral.com List-Unsubscribe: http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:31:32 -0700 I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have offered $5000 for several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at and nearly booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is what I am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us dealers, not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I hope some change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not make it here. I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one could be so cool but it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed a complaint saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! The police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really,
Re: [meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece!
COW SMASHER This is a new development! It didn't happen to belong to an old gal by the name of O'Leary, did it? You guys out in the field must all be having a blast. I hope you all come home with a bag full. Joh At 07:38 AM 3/29/03 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: I am thrilled you did, the early bird gets the worm as they say. Hey by the way, I am not done yet, ill be hunting the forest all day today. I want the main mass, the cow smasher. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Steve Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] PS. I found a piece! Oh my god! I can finally one up Mike Farmer. Hey buddy i found about 50 or more of those. Now if I could just catch up with you on total weight purchased... Steve --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way, I found a very small fragment near the street where one impacted and shattered. It weighes less than a gram but I am thrilled to have found it. Mike Farmer = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Ad ebay auctions ending..Nevada Meteorites
Hi List Just wanted to let you know that a buddy of mine has some auctions ending soon. He is offering up some rarely seen meteorites from the state of Nevada. These were all found by him on Roach Dry Lake near Las Vegas. Here is the URL; eBay Seller List: kcathcart99 My brother and I have hunted with him a couple of times and we have some pictures of a recent hunt if you want to check it out. Roach Dry Lake Email me if you have any questions. Mike Mike Jensen Bill Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 Web Site: Jensen Meteorites
Re: [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City meteorite available forsale yet?
Sorry, I got your post well before midnight last night - thought it was for then. Michael on 3/29/03 6:43 AM, Steve Witt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, I will post that at midnight tonight. Steve --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, Howsabout letting the list know what it went for? Michael on 3/28/03 10:34 PM, Steve Witt at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Paul and List, Well I think I'll test the waters. First a quick correction. The new fall in Illinois is Park Forest. I have a 22.7 gram fragment to offer. Small patch of fresh crust 10% or so. Picked up less than 10 Hours after it fell. Off list please. Best offer by Midnight CST on 3/29/03 will have it shipped priority to their door. (CONUS only on the priority shipping). Actual shipping to anywhere else. Go at it, Steve The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall
Just curious guys what do you think the going rate on this rock will be when it finally gets reasonable that is? Im just a collector new to this I might like to have a specimen of a historical fall if it's not $500 an ounce lol. Later guys best of luck to you all, Ron
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. What you are forgetting is that does not include air fare, hotel bills, rental cars etc. In addition most dealers will keep a good sized piece for their collections. If a lot of material is bought the cost averages down, but if little is bought it becomes a significant addition to the purchase of the meteorite. Some are also full time dealers so they not only have to get their money out, but make a profit for things like house and car payments, food, taxes, ect. And we haven't even added in cut losses. So is $7 for a stone bought for $1 fair? It all depends, and one of the least important things is how much you pay for an individual stone. The average cost per gram and how much you manage to get are much more important. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is any Park Forest meteorite available for sale yet?
First a quick correction. The new fall in Illinois is Park Forest. Hey Steve! When you made your correction you should have revised the Subject title at the same time. The continuing use of this subject title is confusing some people. That title has to do with another thread started by Mark Bostick about another meteorite correctly called Forest City. See these URLs: http://www.meteoriteguy.com/forestcity.htm http://meteorites.pdx.edu/meteoriteid.htm http://nyrockman.com/museum/forest-city-325.htm I know both you and Michael Blood understand this, but you would be surprised how quickly something this small gets all wrapped around the axle and tangled in the spokes! ;-) Thanks, BOb V. -- [meteorite-list] Is any Forest City [sic] meteorite available for sale yet? Steve Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 29 Mar 2003 06:43:11 -0800 (PST) Michael, I will post that at midnight tonight. Steve --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Steve, Howsabout letting the list know what it went for? Michael __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Everyone read this, it is exactly what I am talking aabout
"lend them to the museum'? Michael Farmer lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: "Authorities urging people not to sell for quick cash" - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Artical in Chicago Tribune this morning Good morning all,Here is a link to today's Chicago Tribune article about the Park Forest fall.Chicago Tribune | Meteorite hunters scour Park Forest Best Regards,Paul Martyn Yahoo! Mail - For a better Internet experience
[meteorite-list] The true worth of Park Forrest vs Thuathe
Somehow, I'm very glad that afew of my bucks for my small Thuathe went toavery lucky kid in Lesthos that will provide him witha meaning windfall,than bribe some Chicago SOB out of his treasure.Not so say I can't understand one wanting to keep anything speciallike thisI found personallyeven ifnot a meteorite collector before this fell out of the sky. Iwouldn't part with it cheaply if I didn't need the cash. I expect to see more new meteorite collectors showing up on ebay due to the hightened interest thanindividual meteorites. Alot will probably stay in private hands.Where did all that missing Chassigny go picked upby those French everyman that day, lost in time. Wasn't one large Thuathe worth a year's income in thisagarian community. Alot of money and happinessfor a sillyrock out of the blue.Next to thegreed and hostilityby some herein the USA,I wish more stones would fall in the laps of wonderful people like these. But I'd love to see one fall in my neighborhood just the same. Steve Arnold, you lucky dog... Howard WuYahoo! Mail - For a better Internet experience
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Chigago madness
---BeginMessage--- Howard, you are a wise man (or a wise guy?) Or both! Great idea, selling NWA to the local folks. However, I can see a local buying NWA and then taking it to the Field Museum to sell it for a higher price. It would be fun to see the face of the confused scientist at the museum. High Regards, Fred Hall, in Colorado ---End Message---
[meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Hold on a minute, guys! What's all this talk about $7/g? Don't forget that Farmer had to PAY $7/g for most of those premium specimens that had hit a house. We're not going to see those meteorites going for $7/g. No doubt Michael would like to comment on this thread but right now he's out in the field searching for more of this meteorite, so let's not go too far with this thread until those more closely involved can participate. I'm only aware of 1 stone that was acquired for ~$1/g. And that was the one bought by Steve Witt soon after he arrived on the scene. Not long after that prices started to vary greatly. And that particular stone won't be going on the market any time soon. Steve gave permission to have that stone sent to a lab in Washington - in order to have a short-lived radionuclide count performed on it. As you may already know, this is an analysis that researchers are VERY keen to conduct on any VERY recently fallen meteorite. It is preferred to have this test done within hours of the fall! And Steve handed over his stone within 24 hours of having recovered it. It was the 2nd freshest specimen made available for this count. Steve Witt is not a meteorite dealer. Like the rest of us, he is a collector and is trying to do the right thing and is attempting to help in the recovery of a fall that occurred in his neighborhood. He is a member of a nationwide group called Bolide_Chasers. He was interviewed by local TV media and performed a public service by supplying (good) information to the general public and directing meteorite finders to the local sheriff station. He lent his specimens from the fall for use in other media presentations. He lent his largest specimen for analysis. And for all his volunteer efforts, he was nearly arrested! Sorry, but I'm not very good at figuring out the dollar value of a new meteorite. But I'm sure it probably varies for each individual finder, and for each individual stone. Bob V. --- [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:49:41 EST In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Hello, Several other stones were purchased for about $1.00 per gram. Approx weight maybe around 3 kilos. However these went straight into personal collections! On a funny note many stones were turned away from several buyers at $1.00 per gram because it was believed that there were going to be 100's of kilos. NOT! Next day, the buyers tried to buy those stones at the $1.00 price per gram and were laughed atby then it was $10.00 per gram...thanks to the police and museum. Cottingham - Original Message - From: Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? Hold on a minute, guys! What's all this talk about $7/g? Don't forget that Farmer had to PAY $7/g for most of those premium specimens that had hit a house. We're not going to see those meteorites going for $7/g. No doubt Michael would like to comment on this thread but right now he's out in the field searching for more of this meteorite, so let's not go too far with this thread until those more closely involved can participate. I'm only aware of 1 stone that was acquired for ~$1/g. And that was the one bought by Steve Witt soon after he arrived on the scene. Not long after that prices started to vary greatly. And that particular stone won't be going on the market any time soon. Steve gave permission to have that stone sent to a lab in Washington - in order to have a short-lived radionuclide count performed on it. As you may already know, this is an analysis that researchers are VERY keen to conduct on any VERY recently fallen meteorite. It is preferred to have this test done within hours of the fall! And Steve handed over his stone within 24 hours of having recovered it. It was the 2nd freshest specimen made available for this count. Steve Witt is not a meteorite dealer. Like the rest of us, he is a collector and is trying to do the right thing and is attempting to help in the recovery of a fall that occurred in his neighborhood. He is a member of a nationwide group called Bolide_Chasers. He was interviewed by local TV media and performed a public service by supplying (good) information to the general public and directing meteorite finders to the local sheriff station. He lent his specimens from the fall for use in other media presentations. He lent his largest specimen for analysis. And for all his volunteer efforts, he was nearly arrested! Sorry, but I'm not very good at figuring out the dollar value of a new meteorite. But I'm sure it probably varies for each individual finder, and for each individual stone. Bob V. --- [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sat, 29 Mar 2003 13:49:41 EST In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: THUATHE SALE !!! Slices And Individuals!! UPDATE THUATHE STILL THE BEST DEAL IN TOWN!!!
- Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham To: Michael Cottingham Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: Fw: THUATHE SALE !!! Slices And Individuals!! UPDATE WILL ALSO ACCEPT SOME TRADES!! PLEASE NOTE! These pieces are SUPERB. They areNOT the water-soaked ones that have been offered by other people in the recent past or the cheaper ones you will see elsewhere. HERE IS MY UPDATED VERSION. I WILL ALSO CONSIDER TRADING...LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE! Hello Everyone, Almost everyone has heard about the Thuathe Meteorite from Lesotho! Below are SUPERB Slices and 1st rate individuals. These are the ones we just brought back. Many of these were traded or purchased direct from the University of Lesotho and some were found and kept hidden by the villagers months ago. Below is all that I am going to sell! Thuathe was found near Maseru, Lesotho. It FELL to Earth on July 21st, 2002 at 1549 local time. This is a beautiful and Fresh witnessed fall. H4 Chondrite. Identification card included! PAYPAL, CHECK OR MONEY ORDER!! Postage is $3.80 for PRIORITY SHIPPING. Please contact and reserve piece. Speedy email is appreciated! Thanks Best Wishes Michael Cottingham 1. 163.46 gram Half Individual BEAUTIFUL.. $1,144.22 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t1.JPG http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t2.JPG 2. 28.84 gram complete slice with crust$230.72 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t3.JPG 3. 10.35 gram Part Slice with crust...$82.80 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t4.JPG 5. 6.79 gram Part Slice with crust$54.32 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t6.JPG 6. 7.77 gram Part Slice A little crust$62.16 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t7.JPG 7. 6.51 gram part slice with crust...$52.08 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t8.JPG 8. 6.04 gram part slice with crust...$48.32 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t9.JPG 9. 5.95 gram part slice with crust...$47.60 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t10.JPG 10. 5.94 gram part slice with crust.$47.52 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t11.JPG 12. 4.35 gram part slice with crust.$34.80 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t13.JPG 14. 3.38 gram part slice$27.04 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t15.JPG 15. 3.11 gram part slice with crust$25.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t16.JPG 16. 54.15 gram 98% fusion crusted Individual$400.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t17.JPG http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t18.JPG 17. 36.33 gram 98% fusion crusted individual$275.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t19.JPG 18. 25.96 gram 95% fusion crusted individual$190.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t21.JPG 19. 15.55 gram 97% fusion crusted individual...$115.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t23.JPG 20. 11.82 gram 90% fusion crusted individual..$85.60 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t25.JPG 22. 11.39 gram 98% fusion crusted individual..$82.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t28.JPG 23 9.55 gram 96% fusion crusted individual.$69.25 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t29.JPG 24. 4.83 gram 65% fusion crusted fragment.$40.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t30.JPG 25. 4.69 gram 85% fusion crusted individual.$38.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t31.JPG 26. 4.69 gram 95% fusion crusted individual.$40.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t32.JPG 28. 3.72 gram 78% fusion crusted individual.$32.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t34.JPG 29. 2.96 gram 90% fusion crusted individual.$30.00 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/4596/t35.JPG THE END
[meteorite-list] Museum Statement Park Forest?
Dear Listees: Firstly, greetings to all our List members in the field in Chicago, and congrats to those who have already made recoveries. This is the most excitement we've had on the List in a good long time. Secondly, I am very curious about something: I wonder if the comments attributed to person(s) at the Field Museum accusing meteorite dealers of ripping local people off were heard first-hand by anyone, or if such a statement was just hearsay? Of course we all agree with Bob Verish's positive comments regarding the close working relationship between researchers and the amateur collectors/dealers, an alliance that both have worked long and hard to develop. Many of us -- myself included -- have very cordial relationships with members of meteorite academia; there are several prominent academics here on the Meteorite List, and we wouldn't have it any other way. However, after the many meteorite donations made to academia by those very same people who are working in the field today -- Al Lang, Al Mitterling, Mike Farmer, Steve Arnold (IMB), the Hupés and others -- such comments are really unwarranted and in very poor taste. If true, such behavior should be considered before making future trades and donations to that institution. In the meantime, good hunting. Regards, Geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The true worth of Park Forrest vs Thuathe
That's all the residents of Park forest want too, a meaning windfall out of the blue, a life's wages for a single find. The math was poor but the dream the same. Rob Wesel Somehow, I'm very glad that a few of my bucks for my small Thuathe went to a very lucky kid in Lesthos that will provide him with a meaning windfall, than bribe some Chicago SOB out of his treasure. Not so say I can't understand one wanting to keep anything special like this I found personally even if not a meteorite collector before this fell out of the sky. I wouldn't part with it cheaply if I didn't need the cash. I expect to see more new meteorite collectors showing up on ebay due to the hightened interest than individual meteorites. Alot will probably stay in private hands. Where did all that missing Chassigny go picked up by those French everyman that day, lost in time. Wasn't one large Thuathe worth a year's income in this agarian community. Alot of money and happiness for a silly rock out of the blue. Next to the greed and hostility by some here in the USA, I wish more stones would fall in the laps of wonderful people like these. But I'd love to see one fall in my neighborhood just the same. Steve Arnold, you lucky dog... Howard Wu - Yahoo! Mail - For a better Internet experience __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
3000 grams or 3 kilo's x 7 =$21,000 Where are you staying? Are you renting a 24 hour limo? Are you using a private jet? GO FIGURE !! Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. What you are forgetting is that does not include air fare, hotel bills, rental cars etc. In addition most dealers will keep a good sized piece for their collections. If a lot of material is bought the cost averages down, but if little is bought it becomes a significant addition to the purchase of the meteorite. Some are also full time dealers so they not only have to get their money out, but make a profit for things like house and car payments, food, taxes, ect. And we haven't even added in cut losses. So is $7 for a stone bought for $1 fair? It all depends, and one of the least important things is how much you pay for an individual stone. The average cost per gram and how much you manage to get are much more important. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
Heck that is cheap considering all things. Without getting into an argumentthere are so many factors involved with pricing that it is just not that simple. The best thing for one to do if you really want to understand, is travel to a fall, with all the expenses involved, do all the work, the sell your material. By then you will begin to understand. You will never see this meteorite for retail sale at $7.00 per gram. If that is the case and if there is anyone listening from Park ForrestI will buy ALL the meteorites from this fall for $7.00 per gram RIGHT NOW!!! Cottingham - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? 3000 grams or 3 kilo's x 7 =$21,000 Where are you staying? Are you renting a 24 hour limo? Are you using a private jet? GO FIGURE !! Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. What you are forgetting is that does not include air fare, hotel bills, rental cars etc. In addition most dealers will keep a good sized piece for their collections. If a lot of material is bought the cost averages down, but if little is bought it becomes a significant addition to the purchase of the meteorite. Some are also full time dealers so they not only have to get their money out, but make a profit for things like house and car payments, food, taxes, ect. And we haven't even added in cut losses. So is $7 for a stone bought for $1 fair? It all depends, and one of the least important things is how much you pay for an individual stone. The average cost per gram and how much you manage to get are much more important. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
I hope you are right, but now it is being bought by dealers for $12.00 gram . This is not such a large fall, very populated area, so not many lying in fields. Good luck to all wanting some, ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite expensive. If you want to wait, no problem, but then you risk getting nothing of this fall. Time will tell. I saw nothing today, the people who have the large pieces in there homes will not sell, except one that is, I got that one here beside me right now. It smashed a house, and a printer, and a computer game. I got the printer, meteorite, hole cut out of the roof, shigle with hole through it. 1 kilo, of course, NOT FOR SALE WHATSOEVER, NEVER WILL BE. Sorry to the dealers who tried to outbid me and buy out from under me, the woman who sold it to me had enough integrity to keep her word and complete the deal we made over many hours of haggeling and phone calls. Mike Farmer Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will probably be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or sell them at a low price. Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is possibly a lot more of it to be found. Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable point . Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place. Watch Ebay. Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too. By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable price. Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in it...like a winged ant or something ;-) Just my opinion, John Gwilliam At 08:49 AM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA53-228e3e853f5f249; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:25 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA16-2e03e853f5156; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:09 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21421536DF; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84F4553557 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56793 invoked by uid 7111); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 56790 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2T6Vai22643 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from S0027239467 ([205.158.100.162]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id BAA28468; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2F582.2A3EFD80 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice?
Ya right Michael Cottingham wrote: Heck that is cheap considering all things. Without getting into an argumentthere are so many factors involved with pricing that it is just not that simple. The best thing for one to do if you really want to understand, is travel to a fall, with all the expenses involved, do all the work, the sell your material. By then you will begin to understand. You will never see this meteorite for retail sale at $7.00 per gram. If that is the case and if there is anyone listening from Park ForrestI will buy ALL the meteorites from this fall for $7.00 per gram RIGHT NOW!!! Cottingham - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? 3000 grams or 3 kilo's x 7 =$21,000 Where are you staying? Are you renting a 24 hour limo? Are you using a private jet? GO FIGURE !! Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:23:22 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is 7 times what they paid for it, your saying thats a fair price. What you are forgetting is that does not include air fare, hotel bills, rental cars etc. In addition most dealers will keep a good sized piece for their collections. If a lot of material is bought the cost averages down, but if little is bought it becomes a significant addition to the purchase of the meteorite. Some are also full time dealers so they not only have to get their money out, but make a profit for things like house and car payments, food, taxes, ect. And we haven't even added in cut losses. So is $7 for a stone bought for $1 fair? It all depends, and one of the least important things is how much you pay for an individual stone. The average cost per gram and how much you manage to get are much more important. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Poor Art!!
Ill make sure art gets a piece. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:01 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Poor Art!! Dear List; Poor Art! He has a birthday. Meteorite falls on birthday. Meteorite creates list insanity. List uses a ton of band width. Meteorite is too expensive to get any. Band width gets used up. Art gets no meteorite. Happy Birthday Art, I have no birthday...solves many problems. Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall
The price will be in the $20 to $30.00 gram range retail fragments and partslices. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall Just curious guys what do you think the going rate on this rock will be when it finally gets reasonable that is? Im just a collector new to this I might like to have a specimen of a historical fall if it's not $500 an ounce lol.Later guys best of luck to you all,Ron
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [meteorite-list]Lunar meteorites
Does anyone know of a Lunar Meteorite Page, such as Ron Balke's Mars Meteorie page? RSVP Thanks, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Poor Art!!
Dear Mike; I was only joking. The world, and the meteorite world could use a little humor today. I will send you $20 to help with the Art's birthday rock fund. I am tickled that you were able to get such a magnificent roof hammer, and the photos were really cool. It is at least on scale with the Portales asphalt stone. Any Japanese trying to get any of the vehicles with roof dents? Good luck and safe trip home, Dave Freeman David Freeman wrote: Dear List; Poor Art! He has a birthday. Meteorite falls on birthday. Meteorite creates list insanity. List uses a ton of band width. Meteorite is too expensive to get any. Band width gets used up. Art gets no meteorite. Happy Birthday Art, I have no birthday...solves many problems. Dave F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
VERY COOL , anyone would love something like that Mike :-) Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
Godd evening list. I just got back from the park forest strewnfield.It was a good day. I only found about 2.5 grams of the new meteorite.I found 32 micro pieces.All of these will be for sale, except my 2 biggest pieces.They total a little over a gram.I got there about 9:30 and started looking all over.I stayed in touch with mike farmer and his dealings. I went over to the house where all the action started.I saw the where it had bounced off the aluminum siding. I also saw where 2 of the big pieces made dents in the road.It was quite amazing.Mike farmer bought the piece that went and hit a computer and went through the wall.It was quite a day.I can officially say, I have found my 1st meteorite.Even tho it be small, it is still mine, and it fell here in chicago.Now for good part.I will sell each micro for$40.Most of these are fusion crust. Please let me know if you are intersted.Let the parade begin. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest
Hi all. I am posting the following message to the List on behalf of Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa, the Curator of Meteorites at the Field museum. -jeff - To Mike Farmer and List: Regarding statements concerning the Field Museum and relating to the recent meteorite fall in Park Forest: 1. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not made statements to the residents and/or Police of Park Forest concerning any meteorite dealers. 2. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not told anyone that the meteorites have to be donated or sold to The Field Museum. Anyone who wishes to further discuss these points may contact M. Wadhwa at The Field Museum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please refer to this e-mail when discussing the role of the Museum in the recovery of the Park Forest fall in this list or any other public forum. Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa Associate Curator, Meteoritics Department of Geology, The Field Museum 1400 S. Lake Shore Dr., Chicago, Il, 60605 Tel: (312) 665-7639 (office) (312) 665-7613/7617 (mass spec/clean chem labs) Fax: (312) 665-7641 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/aa/staff_page.cgi?staff=wadhwa At 05:20 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should donate all the pieces to the university/museum. and, at 10:50 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: We are all outraged at what has happened here. Ill explain more. The fact is that yesterday morning several pieces were sold for $1 gram, not an unfair price in the field, low but no big deal. Then the newspapers and news told everyone that the value is $500 per ounce! The Chicago Field Museum curator was telling the police that the people had to sell to them and not to any collectors. So now many people are going to the Field Museum tomorrow to sell their pieces to the museum. They are under the assumption that they must sell them there as that is what the local police is passing on. ... PS. Portales was a fun but stressful hunt, this one blows Portales to hell, people are very very unfriendly here, not all of course, but the Museum did dealers and collectors very wrong here with what they said, Ill be rethinking and dealings from now on with this type of bad press. I have donated over $100,000 in meteorites to museums, and now to have them telling people that all the dealers are here to rip them off really chaps my $%#$#$ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] What a great idea, we hear you
What a great idea, we hear you. Whos going to do the collecting? Tim John Gwilliam wrote: May I suggest that someone become the designated party to collect money for a piece of this fall for Art. I would be glad to donate $20.00 or so for such a worthy cause. With Mike Farmer busy working the fall, it doesn't seem appropriate for him to be given the added burden. Any volunteers? Let me know and I'll send $$. John At 12:28 AM 3/30/03 +0100, Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
In a message dated 3/29/2003 3:35:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3000 grams or 3 kilo's x 7 =$21,000 Where are you staying? Are you renting a 24 hour limo? Are you using a private jet? Heck Tim I didn't mention any weights. It could also be 100 grams x 7 = $700. You going to sell it for that at a profit after planes and hotels etc.? If you reread my message you will see that one of the important factors I mentioned is how MUCH you get is a key factor in the price. I haven't heard of anybody yet that has 3kg for sale. I am not in Chicago and have no plans of going. As a collector I am bummed because I was hoping for a 1-2 kg piece and that is not going to happen. Maybe next time prices won't get so out of wack, but I won't hold my breath. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest hits eBay
Hi List, Looks like the first eBay listing. #2167649167 That's a nice one you got, Mike. Good luck finding more. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] great idea - Volunteer
Hi John All, I will volunteer. Please make all donations within 7 days to my email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). PLEASE MARK ALL DONATIONS: - Art or -Art's B Day or - Donation for Art's B. Day (Failure to indicate purpose of funds could lead to your donation failing to get counted!) As for PayPal, check Non-auction Item I will report to the list both the amount raised and the specimen selected - and will photograph the piece, as well, so we can all share in the fun. I will purchase from any dealer who makes the best offer for Art for the money we end up with. The dealer who makes the best offer should benefit from a bit of free advertising that way, too. Best wishes, Michael on 3/29/03 4:16 PM, Tim Heitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What a great idea, we hear you. Whos going to do the collecting? Tim John Gwilliam wrote: May I suggest that someone become the designated party to collect money for a piece of this fall for Art. I would be glad to donate $20.00 or so for such a worthy cause. With Mike Farmer busy working the fall, it doesn't seem appropriate for him to be given the added burden. Any volunteers? Let me know and I'll send $$. John At 12:28 AM 3/30/03 +0100, Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. Bertrand Russell -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satelite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest hits eBay
MMM Very Skeptical??? Cottingham - Original Message - From: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest hits eBay Hi List, Looks like the first eBay listing. #2167649167 That's a nice one you got, Mike. Good luck finding more. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price?
NO ONE has 3 kilos, I have one piece of 928 grams, and 900 grams of fragments. I paid dearly. Also I have added up all of the pieces I know about, and I doubt there are too many yet found that I havnt seen except the pieces the museums and people got the first day. I belive now that there is less than 25 kilos known. I would like to know if anyone knows more. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fair price? In a message dated 3/29/2003 3:35:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3000 grams or 3 kilo's x 7 =$21,000 Where are you staying? Are you renting a 24 hour limo? Are you using a private jet? Heck Tim I didn't mention any weights. It could also be 100 grams x 7 = $700. You going to sell it for that at a profit after planes and hotels etc.? If you reread my message you will see that one of the important factors I mentioned is how MUCH you get is a key factor in the price. I haven't heard of anybody yet that has 3kg for sale. I am not in Chicago and have no plans of going. As a collector I am bummed because I was hoping for a 1-2 kg piece and that is not going to happen. Maybe next time prices won't get so out of wack, but I won't hold my breath. Eric Olson http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
I can deal with it now, I will get him a nice piece from what I have, so anyone else who wants to donate, go ahead. Mike - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall May I suggest that someone become the designated party to collect money for a piece of this fall for Art. I would be glad to donate $20.00 or so for such a worthy cause. With Mike Farmer busy working the fall, it doesn't seem appropriate for him to be given the added burden. Any volunteers? Let me know and I'll send $$. John At 12:28 AM 3/30/03 +0100, Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
Thank you, it is now almost the best piece in my collection. I only dreamed of owning a house smasher until today, none have been available at all, at least in complete pieces, now I own a house/printer/computer game smasher all in one. I am so thankful for that piece, if not very broke now. Since I have that one, i will need to sell all of what I have in the other fragments. The rest are all from the house on Winslow st, and will include pieces of the siding smashed off by the meteorite. I will take orders first come first served, I need to know how much you want to spend, then when I get home ill cut the pieces up and see where I am. Not that much only 400 grams those 3 pieces, so they wont last long. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History VERY COOL , anyone would love something like that Mike :-) Tim Heitz Michael Farmer wrote: Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and knees in the middle of Winslow St. It was cold and light snow here all day, and it was a blast to hang out with the Steves, Steve Witt, Gary Curtis, and Bob Evans. This regardless of price problems, is what I love about meteorite hunting, and the fall chases. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S Godd evening list. I just got back from the park forest strewnfield.It was a good day. I only found about 2.5 grams of the new meteorite.I found 32 micro pieces.All of these will be for sale, except my 2 biggest pieces.They total a little over a gram.I got there about 9:30 and started looking all over.I stayed in touch with mike farmer and his dealings. I went over to the house where all the action started.I saw the where it had bounced off the aluminum siding. I also saw where 2 of the big pieces made dents in the road.It was quite amazing.Mike farmer bought the piece that went and hit a computer and went through the wall.It was quite a day.I can officially say, I have found my 1st meteorite.Even tho it be small, it is still mine, and it fell here in chicago.Now for good part.I will sell each micro for$40.Most of these are fusion crust. Please let me know if you are intersted.Let the parade begin. steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I MADE A MISTAKE
Hello again list. I found out I have only 26 micro's for sale, but I found out that I have 3 grams.The 1.2 gram individuals I have I am keeping for my collection. The other 2 grams are forsale.Again it $ 40 per micro.Available now forsale!!!Let me know who wants one.They are all good size. steve Most piece's are fusion crust. = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest hits eBay
Mike and others, I agree...the stuff in that auction looks like common slag to me. Now up to $51. JD MMM Very Skeptical??? Cottingham - Original Message - From: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:37 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest hits eBay Hi List, Looks like the first eBay listing. #2167649167 That's a nice one you got, Mike. Good luck finding more. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
Mike posted: I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and knees in the middle of Winslow St. Dear Mike: We definitely need to see those pictures. : ) geoff N. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I MADE A MISTAKE
Good evening Steve, and all, I am interested in obtaining a specimen of this fall. However, Steve, I am a bit confused about what you have for sale. Reading between the lines it looks like you have 26 micro specimens with a total mass of about 2 grams for sale. Correct? And at $40.00 a piece it looks like you are asking about $500.00 per gram. Have I missed something? Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:48:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello again list. I found out I have only 26 micro's for sale, but I found out that I have 3 grams.The 1.2 gram individuals I have I am keeping for my collection. The other 2 grams are forsale.Again it $ 40 per micro.Available now forsale!!!Let me know who wants one.They are all good size. steve Most piece's are fusion crust.
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
I strongly second Jeoff's suggestion. ;-) Paul In a message dated 3/29/2003 5:56:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike posted: I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and knees in the middle of Winslow St. Dear Mike: We definitely need to see those pictures. : ) geoff N.
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
At 08:55 PM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike posted: I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and knees in the middle of Winslow St. Dear Mike: We definitely need to see those pictures. : ) geoff N. I agree with Geoff. In fact, I'd pay good money for a quality 8x10 print of Steve Steve crawling in the street. John Gwilliam __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S
you'll have to wait a while, I cant post them as I dont have the cords to hook into the computer. It was a sight to behold. Mike - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: LETS GO SELLING MICRO'S I strongly second Jeoff's suggestion.;-)PaulIn a message dated 3/29/2003 5:56:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike posted:I have photos of BOTH Steve Arnolds crawling around on there hands and kneesin the middle of Winslow St. Dear Mike:We definitely need to see those pictures.: )geoff N.
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest
Jeff, and Dr Wadhwa. I will just say this, whatever the source, all of us here, Adam Hupe, Al Lang, Steve Witt, Gary Curtis, Al Mitterling, Steve Arnold meteorite broker etc, have all heard various versions of the same thing, from so many people here, and it seems to have originated in the police department. So I do now know who started it, but what I said is being passes around as the word of law to many people. I would just hope that we could all cooperate, there is plenty of material for all the museums and collectors of the fabulous fall. The Field Museum should of course get many pieces, and I hope to god they get one of the house smashers for the beautiful collection display there. I was merely reporting first hand problems that arose to all of us trying to buy stones. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Hi all. I am posting the following message to the List on behalf of Dr. Meenakshi Wadhwa, the Curator of Meteorites at the Field museum. -jeff-To Mike Farmer and List:Regarding statements concerning the Field Museum and relating to the recent meteorite fall in Park Forest:1. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not made statements to the residents and/or Police of Park Forest concerning any meteorite dealers.2. The Field Museum (or any representative thereof) has not told anyone that the meteorites have to be donated or sold to The Field Museum.Anyone who wishes to further discuss these points may contact M. Wadhwa at The Field Museum ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Please refer to this e-mail when discussing the role of the Museum in the recovery of the Park Forest fall in this list or any other public forum.Dr. Meenakshi WadhwaAssociate Curator, MeteoriticsDepartment of Geology, The Field Museum1400 S. Lake Shore Dr., Chicago, Il, 60605Tel: (312) 665-7639 (office)(312) 665-7613/7617 (mass spec/clean chem labs)Fax: (312) 665-7641Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/aa/staff_page.cgi?staff=wadhwaAt 05:20 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: Hello everyone, a little news from the strewnfield. The news is not good. The people here all think that they are millionaires, they all want $10 to $20 gram now. The police chief tols Steve Witt to leave or be arrested as they think he robbed a meteorite finder by paying several dollars per gram! The news has stated that they are worth $500 per ounce ~$15 gram. The Museum in Chicago has not helped, stating that dealers are here to rip the locals off and that they should "donate all the pieces" to the university/museum. and, at 10:50 PM 3/28/2003 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: We are all outraged at what has happened here. Ill explain more. The fact is that yesterday morning several pieces were sold for $1 gram, not an unfair price in the field, low but no big deal. Then the newspapers and news told everyone that the value is $500 per ounce! The Chicago Field Museum curator was telling the police that the people had to sell to them and not to any collectors. So now many people are going to the Field Museum tomorrow to sell their pieces to the museum. They are under the assumption that they must sell them there as that is what the local police is passing on. ...PS. Portales was a fun but stressful hunt, this one blows Portales to hell, people are very very unfriendly here, not all of course, but the Museum did dealers and collectors very wrong here with what they said, Ill be rethinking and dealings from now on with this type of bad press. I have donated over $100,000 in meteorites to museums, and now to have them telling people that all the dealers are here to rip them off really chaps my $%#$#$__ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
Well, it smashed the plywood and the two by four it hit, and didn't seem to slow down. It then smashed the printer and bounced and dented the wall. I have the shingle, and they are cutting the ceiling hole out for me when they fix the ceiling. The lucky woman who's home it damaged, was sitting at the computer on the email. She said she saw a flash light up the sky outside and then heard the explosion, too loud and long to be thunder. Seconds later the room exploded with a crashing noise and plaster and insulation showered all over the room and her and the printer pieces flew across the room.She saw the hole, went to it and looked up to see through the whole roof and clear sky above. Then she looked down and saw the stone and immediately picked it up. She said it was slightly warm. You don't get much closer than sitting 2 feet from where it lands so I indeed know that the stone was warm. I'm not sure if there is any piece in my collection more important, but I love the Portales Valley I found! Ill be searching again tomorrow to try and find a piece. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Mike, Those are pretty amazing pictures of the house hammer meteorite. I'm assuming that it also broke through the plywood that was under the roofing shingles. It's amazing that it kept it's shape so well. Is that gypsum on one end of it? Are you going to leave it like that or clean it off? Congratulations on such a great find. By the way, if this is not the best piece in your collection, what is? Take care. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
The stone has tar from the roof on one side, and white plaster on the other side, so interestingly, that proves that it hit the roof and then spun around to hit the ceiling with the other side! It also had some wood imbedded on the side from the two-by-four it snapped in the roof frame. This puppy has it all., and I will NOT clean it. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Mike, Those are pretty amazing pictures of the house hammer meteorite. I'm assuming that it also broke through the plywood that was under the roofing shingles. It's amazing that it kept it's shape so well. Is that gypsum on one end of it? Are you going to leave it like that or clean it off? Congratulations on such a great find. By the way, if this is not the best piece in your collection, what is? Take care. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
Well List, This makes me wonder about the little girl who got hit in the foot?? Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Well, it smashed the plywood and the two by four it hit, and didn't seem to slow down. It then smashed the printer and bounced and dented the wall. I have the shingle, and they are cutting the ceiling hole out for me when they fix the ceiling. The lucky woman who's home it damaged, was sitting at the computer on the email. She said she saw a flash light up the sky outside and then heard the explosion, too loud and long to be thunder. Seconds later the room exploded with a crashing noise and plaster and insulation showered all over the room and her and the printer pieces flew across the room.She saw the hole, went to it and looked up to see through the whole roof and clear sky above. Then she looked down and saw the stone and immediately picked it up. She said it was slightly warm. You don't get much closer than sitting 2 feet from where it lands so I indeed know that the stone was warm. I'm not sure if there is any piece in my collection more important, but I love the Portales Valley I found! Ill be searching again tomorrow to try and find a piece. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Mike, Those are pretty amazing pictures of the house hammer meteorite. I'm assuming that it also broke through the plywood that was under the roofing shingles. It's amazing that it kept it's shape so well. Is that gypsum on one end of it? Are you going to leave it like that or clean it off? Congratulations on such a great find. By the way, if this is not the best piece in your collection, what is? Take care. - Carl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 6:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New fall on Ebay
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Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
At 07:24 PM 3/29/03 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: ...she looked down and saw the stone and immediately picked it up. She said it was slightly warm. You don't get much closer than sitting 2 feet from where it lands so I indeed know that the stone was warm. Well, this will certainly get the debate started again. All in favor of warm meteorites raise your hand. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fw: Interesting item on eBay web site item#2167709654: Park Forest Meteorite WOW !! Fell 2 days ago
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#2167709654: Park Forest Meteorite WOW !! Fell 2 days ago I saw this item for sale at eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM, and thought that you might be interested. Title of item: Park Forest Meteorite WOW !! Fell 2 days ago Seller: maccers531 Starts: Mar-29-03 17:03:02 PST Ends: Apr-01-03 17:03:02 PST Price: Starts at $395.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2167709654 Item Description: Park Forest Illinois Meteorite fell 2 days ago March 27 12:30 am , not yet classified but Mike Farmer says it is a L6 .It was found on Winslow Street in Park Forest. Meteorite hit garage on house and landed on walkway. Beautiful meteorite fragment about 2 grams with fusion crust and gold color metal flecking.See picture below with myself and Mike farmer. I'm holding the one Kilo stone that Mike Farmer purchased from resident. The stone penetrated the roof and hit a computer printer. Awesome historic meteorite fall, be the first to add this limited fall to your collection. This piece will not last long . Good Luck and thanks for looking! Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My Park Forest, IL Experience
Hello List, My wife and I just returned from Park Forest, IL and I have to say that this is truly one of the greatest experiences I have ever had. We found many things spread through out the strewnfield such as heroin baggies, dirty spoons, knives, and a ton of tar covered gravel (and the tar looks a lot like fusion crust). I found two fragments with partial crust and many small fragments for a total of ~15 grams and my wifewon the prize in our house with a 215 gram completely fusion (and dirt) crusted individual that was in a small crater about 8 inches deep. The best part was after six years of hunting by myself (and not ever finding anything) my wife was along to enjoy and prosper in this incredible event. If you would like to see pictures of the 3 largest pieces they are at the bottom of the homepage on my web site. Take Care, Jason and Brandy Phillips www.rocksfromheaven.com
[meteorite-list] Thuathe eBay - meteoritelab - Clarification
Dear list members, As many of you have seen, I have posted several specimens of the Thuathe , Lesotho fall on eBay that Adam, myself and Alan Lang introduced at the Tucson show. I have received several emails asking about another dealer's comments that he heard that the material we received had beensoaked in water. This is absolutely false! It was merely a marketing ploy on his part to get sales. I have heard from customers who have purchased from us and the others and commented that both specimens are EXACTLY alike, same condition, etc. The only difference is that the specimens we have listed do not have the finder's statements. Remember that these are still the same material from the SAME fall. My comment in the eBay description regarding a woman "blessing" a stone with holy water does not refer to any of the specimens we have on eBay. It is simply one of the many exciting stories about the human interaction regarding the fall, similar to the many that have and will come out of the Park Forest fall. I have started them out at $4.00 per gram with a "Buy it Now" at $6.00 per gram. I am merely passing on the savings we received by being the first to receive these and were able to purchase them at a decent price. What you see is what we have left for sale, we will be keeping anything else in our collection. If anyone has any questions or comments, please email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you and best regards, Greg Hupe IMCA 2185 The Hupe Collection
[meteorite-list] lower price
Hi list. In the nature of all things,and after what has gone on during this fall, I want to give everyone a chance to own a piece.I want to help the list, not put damage on it like alot of the park forest residence have. I decided to lower the micro's to $25!Let me know if your interested in these lower prices. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest on eBay w/Mike Farmer photo
Hello List Park Forest Meteorite listed on eBay for $200 gram and witha picture of Mike Farmer and the seller there in Park Forest. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2167709654category=3239 This Fall this the best thing since Portales Valley Fall June 13, 1998, with the price to match ;-) My Best Keith Vazquez Chandler AZ
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
I suspect the mass of the individual stone plays a big part in how warm it gets. Bigger pieces would not warm as quickly or as much because there is more thermal inertia to overcome. It is well documented that the Colby (WI) meteorites (which were recovered quickly after the fall) were deeply cold soaked and began to frost up in the humid evening air (July 4, 1917). Those L6s were 68 and 36 kg, respectively. Mark - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED]; John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History Hello List, The warm meteorite in this case can be from friction from the house. : ) Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Carl Saconn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History At 07:24 PM 3/29/03 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: ...she looked down and saw the stone and immediately picked it up. She said it was slightly warm. You don't get much closer than sitting 2 feet from where it lands so I indeed know that the stone was warm. Well, this will certainly get the debate started again. All in favor of warm meteorites raise your hand. John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall
I have pay Tenham historical fall piece with complete crust for $1/gr..this price only why the meteorite have hit houses or cars? Uhmmmand my new italian meteorite how much I have to ask, find over 3000 mt. from sea level, complete individual with crust? I have buy the complete stone for 600 Euro - over the USD the Euro - and is 200 grams. $200/gr.? Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The price will be in the $20 to $30.00 gram range retail fragments and partslices. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest Fall Just curious guys what do you think the going rate on this rock will be when it finally gets reasonable that is? Im just a collector new to this I might like to have a specimen of a historical fall if it's not $500 an ounce lol. Later guys best of luck to you all, Ron = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest, most expensive fall in US History
well here it is. small fragments of recent event centering around Park Forest, Illinois that has dropped known 14 kg so far. fall of 3-26-03 occurred just prior to midnight cst. over 80% of approx. 35 reported witnessed occurred in park forest with a clustered band epicenter @ 1 mile NNW of post office. reported falls occurring as far as 8 km from cluster. fall appears to have been close to vertical with slight NNE to SSW bias. stones listed here were collected morning following fall from 77 Winslow site. this fall slammed into street outside home of residents Gale, Diane, and Chris, ricocheted into sided porch, and came to rest just outside front door. the main mass, @456 g in 2 pieces, was acquired by mike farmer for over $2000. site has been scoured by scores of people including steve witte, steve arnold, farmer, and austrian eric. largest known as yet is 426 Indiana Garza stone, @2.4 kg, that shot throught home and bounced around bedroon the stones listed here, and my other listings are all pristine fragments of Winslow impact. primary and secondary fusion crust is evident on some fragments. anomalous globules and shock fracture veins evident throughout. steve witte informs this is likely LL6 chondrite. there is another listing on ebay that gives chicago tribune account of event in item description. PLEASE NOTE: conclusions drawn above from empirical evidence. i have not however actually seen 7 of reported stones including Garza, Jones and Mullen. these stones represent over 6 kg of reported amount. one of these will certainly eventually find residence at Adler or Field. these and other listings GUARANTEED 100% authentic and specific to Winslow (park forest street name, not AZ) site. From Ebay --- Dave Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice Mike. What a cool piece and an awesome story behind it. You paid and arm and a leg for it indeed, but it`s a once in a lifetime piece! Congrats and enjoy! I`m sure that you will! Dave Charlie, I could only dream that myself, I paid $12,000 for a 928 gram complete individual today that smassed through a house and smashed a computer printer. Al Lang and Adam Hupe tried to buy it after my deal was sealed and I went to get the money from the bank. Thankfully for me that she refused to screw me over that way. I am thrilled with the piece and will never sell it. Here is a link for anyone who wants to see the stone. www.crosseyedconsulting.com/meteorite Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 8:50 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Park Forest meteorite debacle - whats a fairprice? If I could get a piece that was documented to have crashed through the roof of a house for $7/g, I would be very happy and I wouldn't have to wait 50 years to know I owned a piece of meteorite history Best, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
