Re: [meteorite-list] Get rid of all your meteorites before it's too late!
Some people insist on drinking their own bathwater...once consumed they feel the effects and these theories arise. Lets try reality. Here is my formula for the origin of SARS. Take a 3rd world country, add extreme over population, throw in some animals and fowl, next mix all of that with poor sanitation. Put all of that in a place where people routinely allow their animals and livestock to enter their homes and sleep with them, where animals and humans bath, urinate, and deficate in the same water they will all drink out of. Now take away any forms of daily bathing in clean sanitized water. Sprinkle in a dash of the corona virus and bake. Now you have the proper conditions for a virus that is capable of living in humans and animals to cross from one species to another. That virus is also capable of mutating at will and often uniquely in every organism it encounters. Leave all this to fester in a place where the virus has a chance to find a host, mutate and move to another host several hundred times a day and BAM! It does not need a comet from space to bring a new form of the corona virus to the human condition. All it takes is the proper environment, poor sanitation and some willing hosts. MArk M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Get rid of all your meteorites before it's too late! All,Get a kick out of this;Far-Out Theory Ties SARS Origins to Comet Best Regards,Geoff CintronIsland Meteorite http://www.islandmeteorite.com
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
LOL.. now that you mention William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up the line ) and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. But anywho.. I thought avoirdupois meant pound or the FPS system as opposed to MKS/cgs (metric ) Rosie ---Original Message--- From: Sterling K. Webb Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 00:31:01 To: rochette Cc: meteorite-list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ? Hi, Pierre, Of course, Early Middle English is not just a British expression forged to look like French, but French as spoken by the British who were at that time French, at least the moneyed (and language determining) classes, descendants of the French who followed Guillaume de Normandie (whom the British now call William the Conqueror) to England after he defeated Harold Godwinson for the throne, Harold and his army being exhausted from having defeated another Viking invasion (this time from Norway) just three weeks earlier. I say another Viking invasion because Guillaume and all his French followers __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] King tut?
Hello Tom and List, Knowing that Tom lives in Kingman, Arizona, which is just a stones throw from Gold Basin (GB), I believe he is inquiring about the stone meteorite King Tut found by John Blennert in 1997. The protocol for classifying and acceptance of a new meteorite includes a thorough check of all known meteorites in the general area (I believe within a 25 mile radius) to make certain it does not pair with any meteorite that is already in the books. For those of you that would like to see a picture of the King Tut, go to the following link and scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.meteoriteimpact.com/newfinds.htm Best, John Gwilliam At 07:21 PM 6/9/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello again list, Is the King tut meteorite just a GB by a different name, or is it a different meteorite? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: Get rid of all your meteorites before it's too late!
Take a 3rd world country, add extreme over population, Or a developing biological weapons program... Mark F. -Original Message- From: Mark Miconi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 07:21 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Get rid of all your meteorites before it's too late! Some people insist on drinking their own bathwater...once consumed they feel the effects and these theories arise. Lets try reality. Here is my formula for the origin of SARS. Take a 3rd world country, add extreme over population, throw in some animals and fowl, next mix all of that with poor sanitation. Put all of that in a place where people routinely allow their animals and livestock to enter their homes and sleep with them, where animals and humans bath, urinate, and deficate in the same water they will all drink out of. Now take away any forms of daily bathing in clean sanitized water. Sprinkle in a dash of the corona virus and bake. Now you have the proper conditions for a virus that is capable of living in humans and animals to cross from one species to another. That virus is also capable of mutating at will and often uniquely in every organism it encounters. Leave all this to fester in a place where the virus has a chance to find a host, mutate and move to another host several hundred times a day and BAM! It does not need a comet from space to bring a new form of the corona virus to the human condition. All it takes is the proper environment, poor sanitation and some willing hosts. MArk M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Get rid of all your meteorites before it's too late! All, Get a kick out of this; Far-Out Theory Ties SARS Origins to Comet Best Regards, Geoff Cintron Island Meteorite http://www.islandmeteorite.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] King tut?
Hi List The King Tut meteorite I found near the King Tut Mine in the middle of the King Tut gold placers . Hence the name King Tut . I wish I would have found some poor (better yet rich) dead pharoh hanging on to the other end of it ?? After extensive further hunts all that I was rewarded with were leaverites and some nasty gold nuggets . The King Tut Meteorite is on permanent loan and display at the Flandrau Planetarium on campus at the U of A . Happy Hunting John Blennert - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] King tut? Hello Tom and List, Knowing that Tom lives in Kingman, Arizona, which is just a stones throw from Gold Basin (GB), I believe he is inquiring about the stone meteorite King Tut found by John Blennert in 1997. The protocol for classifying and acceptance of a new meteorite includes a thorough check of all known meteorites in the general area (I believe within a 25 mile radius) to make certain it does not pair with any meteorite that is already in the books. For those of you that would like to see a picture of the King Tut, go to the following link and scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.meteoriteimpact.com/newfinds.htm Best, John Gwilliam At 07:21 PM 6/9/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello again list, Is the King tut meteorite just a GB by a different name, or is it a different meteorite? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] King tut?
Dear List, John; I was'a thinkin' it was called king tut 'cause you be walkin' like an Egyptian when you found it... Dave F. goldmaster wrote: Hi List The King Tut meteorite I found near the King Tut Mine in the middle of the King Tut gold placers . Hence the name King Tut . I wish I would have found some poor (better yet rich) dead pharoh hanging on to the other end of it ?? After extensive further hunts all that I was rewarded with were leaverites and some nasty gold nuggets . The King Tut Meteorite is on permanent loan and display at the Flandrau Planetarium on campus at the U of A . Happy Hunting John Blennert - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] King tut? Hello Tom and List, Knowing that Tom lives in Kingman, Arizona, which is just a stones throw from Gold Basin (GB), I believe he is inquiring about the stone meteorite King Tut found by John Blennert in 1997. The protocol for classifying and acceptance of a new meteorite includes a thorough check of all known meteorites in the general area (I believe within a 25 mile radius) to make certain it does not pair with any meteorite that is already in the books. For those of you that would like to see a picture of the King Tut, go to the following link and scroll to the bottom of the page. http://www.meteoriteimpact.com/newfinds.htm Best, John Gwilliam At 07:21 PM 6/9/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello again list, Is the King tut meteorite just a GB by a different name, or is it a different meteorite? Thanks, Tom The proudest member of the IMCA 6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/2606419p-2418584c.html Meteorite lands in back yard By CHRIS BENDER The Beafort Gazette (South Carolina) June 10, 2003 Dianne Morris saw something out of this world while walking her dogs early Monday morning. A meteorite landed in the Beaufort resident's back yard at about 3:40 a.m. I was only about 15 feet away from it when it came down, said Morris. It had a smoky white tail. Morris said small glowing flames dropped from it as it came down and it made a loud popping sound before hitting the ground. It didn't leave a depression, and she was able to pick up several pieces. Morris plans on keeping the few extraterrestrial pieces. While reports like Morris' do come in on occasion, they usually aren't actual meteorites, said Christina Lacey, a professor at the University of South Carolina's physics and astronomy department. I've never heard of (the reports) panning out, Lacey said. Certainly, meteorites do hit the Earth. Nothing unusual was detected by the radar at the air station Monday morning, said Master Sgt. Terrance Peck, public affairs chief for Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort. Officials at the National Weather Service in Charleston said a meteorite would be moving too fast for them to track. What a meteorite is made of is one of the factors that determines whether it makes it to the Earth's surface. Lacey said meteorites coming from passing comets, which are composed of ice, usually burn up, while iron-based meteorites that come from asteroids might make it to the surface. Meteorites usually are made of melted minerals with some containing iron-nickel alloys. Most meteorites tend to be very simple in composition, Lacey said. Most meteorites do land in water. According to the National Air and Space Administration's Web site, each day as many as 4 billion meteoroids, most minuscule in size, enter Earth's atmosphere. Most of these meteors burn up from atmospheric friction and never reach the ground. The angle at which the meteoroid enters the planet's atmosphere can also determine whether it breaks up, skips back into space or explodes. Lacey said rarely do man-made meteorites make it to Earth, and when they do it's usually over water. If someone does recover something they think is a meteorite, Lacey said geologists can usually tell whether it's from outer space or not. You could talk to the geology department at Clemson, the University of South Carolina or the College of Charleston and they could identify it, Lacey said. A lot of times they can do it just by looking at it. Morris said she doesn't plan on doing anything like that, though she does admit it's somewhat unbelievable. I just wish I had a video camera at the time, she said. Without a movie, it's like no one believes you. Contact Chris Bender at 986-5553 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LA 001
Hi Steve, I have the crusted fragment I got from you a year or so ago. Are you interested in trading back for it? Got any Honolulu? Cheers, Martin On 6/9/03 9:32 PM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there list.Does anyone have any LA 001 forsale or trade?Please get back to me. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
NOT See photo on Ron's link. Randy "Not a member of any organization and proud of it" From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:10:28 -0700 (PDT) http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/2606419p-2418584c.html Meteorite lands in back yard By CHRIS BENDER The Beafort Gazette (South Carolina) June 10, 2003 Dianne Morris saw something out of this world while walking her dogs early Monday morning. A meteorite landed in the Beaufort resident's back yard at about 3:40 a.m. "I was only about 15 feet away from it when it came down," said Morris. "It had a smoky white tail." Morris said small glowing flames dropped from it as it came down and it made a loud popping sound before hitting the ground. It didn't leave a depression, and she was able to pick up several pieces. Morris plans on keeping the few extraterrestrial pieces. While reports like Morris' do come in on occasion, they usually aren't actual meteorites, said Christina Lacey, a professor at the University of South Carolina's physics and astronomy department. "I've never heard of (the reports) panning out," Lacey said. "Certainly, meteorites do hit the Earth." Nothing unusual was detected by the radar at the air station Monday morning, said Master Sgt. Terrance Peck, public affairs chief for Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort. Officials at the National Weather Service in Charleston said a meteorite would be moving too fast for them to track. What a meteorite is made of is one of the factors that determines whether it makes it to the Earth's surface. Lacey said meteorites coming from passing comets, which are composed of ice, usually burn up, while iron-based meteorites that come from asteroids might make it to the surface. Meteorites usually are made of melted minerals with some containing iron-nickel alloys. "Most meteorites tend to be very simple" in composition, Lacey said. "Most meteorites do land in water." According to the National Air and Space Administration's Web site, each day as many as 4 billion meteoroids, most minuscule in size, enter Earth's atmosphere. Most of these meteors burn up from atmospheric friction and never reach the ground. The angle at which the meteoroid enters the planet's atmosphere can also determine whether it breaks up, skips back into space or explodes. Lacey said rarely do man-made meteorites make it to Earth, and when they do it's usually over water. If someone does recover something they think is a meteorite, Lacey said geologists can usually tell whether it's from outer space or not. "You could talk to the geology department at Clemson, the University of South Carolina or the College of Charleston and they could identify it," Lacey said. "A lot of times they can do it just by looking at it." Morris said she doesn't plan on doing anything like that, though she does admit it's somewhat unbelievable. "I just wish I had a video camera at the time," she said. "Without a movie, it's like no one believes you." Contact Chris Bender at 986-5553 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869
Hello Greg and list, Hope all is well there Greg. I have enjoyed your Meteorite Magazine articles and hope to see more in the future. (Note to other list members: Greg has written a few articles on carbonaceous meteorites). NWA869 has recieved several classifications. Lately it has been classified as an L3.8-L6 Breccia. Alan Rubin is pretty steadfast that it is not a breccia and at first classified is an L4 and then came back with an L5 classfication. As NWA787 it was classified as an L6. I will conceed to Rubin as he knows a lot more then I do (and has an electron microscope). I have two thin sections of the meteorite, the light part and the darker part and to me, they do appear to be different. I do not see the L3.8 in the lighter thin section, while it does look somewhat like that in the hand specimens. The chondrules just are not that defined (in my opinion). I would probley agree with an L4-L6 breccia classification). I havent seen any of the redish matrix in a thin seciton however and have wondered how it will look. How many NWA869's have been recovered? No one knows, thousands for sure. I have seen boxes of it in Tucson and Denver for two years now. Whats the total weight? Unknown, probley 500 kilos (just a guess). Perhaps Dean might know how much he has went throughhe has sold more of this meteorite then anyone. It is one of the nicest meteorites that has came out of Africa. Have there only been 5-10kilos, I have no doults it would retail at $2.00-$4.00 a gram. Mark Bostick www.MeteoriteArticles.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 869 Dear List Members:What is the current status (classification) of NWA 869? I have a rather large slice with an L4 label. Is it still an L4? Found 2001. What is the total know weight? How many individuals? Look forward to hearing from "ya all".SincerelyGreg ShanosSarasota, FL
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
Ok not a stone or iron. I'm cynical too about the white smokey tail. Then I asked myself, "What would a C1 meteorite look like coming down?" Howard WuRon Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/2606419p-2418584c.htmlMeteorite lands in back yardBy CHRIS BENDERThe Beafort Gazette (South Carolina)June 10, 2003Dianne Morris saw something out of this world whilewalking her dogs early Monday morning.A meteorite landed in the Beaufort resident's back yard atabout 3:40 a.m."I was only about 15 feet away from it when it came down,"said Morris. "It had a smoky white tail."Morris said small glowing flames dropped from it as it camedown and it made a loud popping sound before hitting theground. It didn't leave a depression, and she was able topick up several pieces.Morris plans on keeping the few extraterrestrial pieces. While reports like Morris' do come in on occasion, they usually aren't actual meteorites, said Christina Lacey, a professor at the University of South Carolina's physics and astronomy department."I've never heard of (the reports) panning out," Lacey said. "Certainly, meteorites do hit the Earth."Nothing unusual was detected by the radar at the air station Monday morning, said Master Sgt. Terrance Peck, public affairs chief for Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort. Officials at the NationalWeather Service in Charleston said a meteorite would be moving too fast for them to track.What a meteorite is made of is one of the factors that determines whether it makes it to the Earth's surface. Lacey said meteorites coming from passing comets, which are composed of ice, usually burnup, while iron-based meteorites that come from asteroids might make it to the surface.Meteorites usually are made of melted minerals with some containing iron-nickel alloys."Most meteorites tend to be very simple" in composition, Lacey said. "Most meteorites do land in water."According to the National Air and Space Administration's Web site, each day as many as 4 billion meteoroids, most minuscule in size, enter Earth's atmosphere. Most of these meteors burn up fromatmospheric friction and never reach the ground.The angle at which the meteoroid enters the planet's atmosphere can also determine whether it breaks up, skips back into space or explodes. Lacey said rarely do man-made meteorites make it to Earth, and when they do it's usually over water.If someone does recover something they think is a meteorite, Lacey said geologists can usually tell whether it's from outer space or not."You could talk to the geology department at Clemson, the University of South Carolina or the College of Charleston and they could identify it," Lacey said. "A lot of times they can do it just by looking at it."Morris said she doesn't plan on doing anything like that, though she does admit it's somewhat unbelievable."I just wish I had a video camera at the time," she said. "Without a movie, it's like no one believes you."Contact Chris Bender at 986-5553 or [EMAIL PROTECTED]__Meteorite-list mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-listYahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
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[meteorite-list] impact area
Nearby is very possibly a large impact crater. I would like to know more about impact craters -- structure, characteristics, etc. Can any of you give me some advice about material to study? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/2606419p-2418584c.html There are so many factual and conceptual errors in this story that I have 100% confidence in dismissing it as hogwash. The Beafort Gazette (South Carolina) With apologies to our list members from South Carolina, my warning flag is already raised at this point... I was only about 15 feet away from it when it came down, said Morris. It had a smoky white tail. Which I'm sure she saw real well at 3:40 in the morning... ;-) Morris said small glowing flames dropped from it as it came down... Of course...uh-huh...please, go on... Morris plans on keeping the few extraterrestrial pieces. (Until she figures out that she can sell the fakes on eBay...) While reports like Morris' do come in on occasion they usually aren't actual meteorites, said Christina Lacey, a professor at the University of South Carolina's physics and astronomy department. I've never heard of (the reports) panning out, Lacey said. Good for Christina -- at least she knows the score. Lacey said meteorites coming from passing comets, which are composed of ice, usually burn up ... As we all know, a meteorite by definition never burns up. I think she means meteoroids, though I would prefer the wording debris shed by passing comets. Most meteorites tend to be very simple in composition, Lacey said. Compared to what A living organism? Has she ever seen the inside of an ordinary chondrite? Lacey said rarely do man-made meteorites make it to Earth, and when they do it's usually over water. Man-made meteorites -- so now satellite debris are also meteorites... If someone does recover something they think is a meteorite, Lacey said geologists can usually tell whether it's from outer space or not. If past performance is any indication, I would say they usually CAN'T. You could talk to the geology department at Clemson, the University of South Carolina or the College of Charleston and they could identify it, Lacey said. Do they have a meteoritics department? If not, then I have my doubts. Morris said she doesn't plan on doing anything like that ... Of course not -- as long as no one qualified ever looks at them, her fantasy is intact. ... though she does admit it's somewhat unbelievable. I don't think we need the somewhat. I just wish I had a video camera at the time, she said. Without a movie, it's like no one believes you. Exactly. Indeed, Ms. Morris has unwittingly revealed the source for her story -- movies. I wonder if Armageddon was on T.V. the night before? ;-) --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] impact area
Books: Rocks From Space by O. Richard Norton Cambridge Encyclopedia Of Meteorites http://www.vftn.org/projects/moschkau/index.htm http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/ http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/ A few things to get you started . . . good luck. Impacts are a bear to prove. Mark Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
[meteorite-list] RE: impact area
On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:33:57 -0500 docnpat [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Nearby is very possibly a large impact crater. I would like to know more about impact craters -- structure, characteristics, etc. Can any of you give me some advice about material to study? On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: +Books: Rocks From Space by O. Richard Norton + Cambridge Encyclopedia Of Meteorites + http://www.vftn.org/projects/moschkau/index.htm + http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/ + http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/ + + A few things to get you started . . . good luck. +Impacts are a bear to prove. I would also recommend looking at: 1. Traces of Catastrophe: A Handbook of Shock- Metamorphic Effects in Terrestrial Meteorite Impact Structures by Bevan M. French (1998) at: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/books/CB-954/CB-954.intro.html 2. Koerbel, C., 1997, Impact cratering: the mineralogical and geochemical evidence. , in K. S. Johnson and J. A. Campbell, eds., Ames Structure in Northwest Oklahoma and Similar Features: origin and Petroleum Production (1995 Symposium): Oklahoma Geological Survey Circular, no. 100, p. 30-54. 3. Montanari, A., and Koeberl, C., 2000, Impact Stratigraphy: The Italian Record. Lecture Notes in Earth Sciences, Springer, 364 pp. 4. Grieve, R. A. F., 1991, Terrestrial impact: The record in the rocks: Meteoritics, v. 26, pp. 175-194. Yours Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Bessy's specks and Intel's play microscope
When I was in the hospital, I received many e-mails and well wish cards. I recieved from Dean Bessy with his card two tiny specks of something in a round plastic case. Being apashic at the the time, I had no idea what these were, as I was unable to read read the ID card. Having regained msot of my senses since then, and also exploring the use of my Play Microscope which I got around Christmas time just before before my recent medical condition, I tried it on Bessy's specks. SaU90 a Martian meteorite. Here are the results: At 10x http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey/SaU90a.jpg At 60x http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey/SaU90b.jpg Great microscope for these very small specks, not even a mm in size as the scale shows. Hard to say what they are, though I will have to trust Dean and be sure not to lose the label. hee, hee. Thanks Dean! Steve Schoner/AMS __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] History of Meteorite Falls in Alabama
Anyone interested in a summary of the history of meteorite falls in Alabama can look at the the below abstract: KING, David T.,and Petruny, L. W., 2003, Alabama's stratigraphic and historic record of meteoritic impact events. Paper No. 5-10, South-Central Section (37th) and Southeastern Section (52nd), GSA Joint Annual Meeting (March 12-14, 2003), Memphis, Tennessee. the abstract can be read at: http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2003SC/finalprogram/abstract_49461.htm http://gsa.confex.com/gsa/2003SC/finalprogram/session_3516.htm Yours Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up the line ) and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. Rosie - The notion that you are related to all these folks (combined with past references to Lady Godiva and Princess Di and various others) means that they must ipso facto be related to each other. It would be hard to avoid some pesky genealogical problems here, unless you are just making the claims in fun. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: impact area
Another excellent book on the physical and geological processes and topographic features of impact structures is: Impact Cratering: a Geologic Process H. J. Melosh, Oxford University Press, New York, 1989. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA's 'Spirit' Rises on its Way to Mars
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIFORNIA 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Veronica McGregor (818) 354-9452 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Don Savage (202) 358-1727 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. News Release: 2003-084 June 10, 2003 NASA's 'Spirit' Rises on its Way to Mars A NASA robotic geologist named Spirit began its seven-month journey to Mars at 1:58:47 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (10:58:47 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time) today when its Delta II launch vehicle thundered aloft from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station, Fla. The spacecraft, first of a twin pair in NASA's Mars Exploration Rover project, separated successfully from the Delta's third stage about 36 minutes after launch, while over the Indian Ocean. Flight controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., received a signal from the spacecraft at 2:48 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (11:48 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time) via the Canberra, Australia, antenna complex of NASA's Deep Space Network. All systems are operating as expected. Spirit will roam a landing area on Mars that bears evidence of a wet history. The rover will examine rocks and soil for clues to whether the site may have been a hospitable place for life. Spirit's twin, Opportunity, which is being prepared for launch as early as 12:38 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time (9:38 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time) June 25, will be targeted to a separate site with different signs of a watery past. We have plenty of challenges ahead, but this launch went so well, we're delighted, said JPL's Pete Theisinger, project manager for the Mars Exploration Rover missions. The spacecraft's cruise-phase schedule before arriving at Mars next Jan. 4, Universal Time (Jan. 3 in Eastern and Pacific time zones), includes a series of tests and calibrations, plus six opportunities for maneuvers to adjust its trajectory. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for the NASA Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Information about the rovers and the scientific instruments they carry is available online from JPL at http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/mer and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: impact area
Hello, Paul and the list, you can find a list of the current known impact structures (198 pcs) from Jarmo Moilanen´s site; http://www.netppl.fi/~jarmom/geo/imp/impacts.htm Also some quite good information about the topic. I´m living nearby Suvasvesi N impact structure, and it seems, we have a double-one, also Suvasvesi S is an impact crater. Like Clear- water in Canada or Ries-Steinham in Germany. The finnish impact structures can be found from; http://www.netppl.fi/~jarmom/geo/imp/fincrat_e.htm and from; http://www.gsf.fi/paleo/impacts.html The list of general literature to impact structures and cratering process; http://www.gsf.fi/paleo/files/literatu.html#general Well, some good books to read, areromagnetic maps of the area, if you can find any, and so on.Then the legwork; you just have to find some shatter-cones, PDF-formated quarz, suevite and some another impactite materials to prove you have a real crater...;- There are lot of impact structures to find, and also lot of people, who think, they have found a structure, but they have not, so good luck to you and your crater, keep me updated about the project. take care, pekka Paul Heinrich wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 12:33:57 -0500 docnpat [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Nearby is very possibly a large impact crater. I would like to know more about impact craters -- structure, characteristics, etc. Can any of you give me some advice about material to study? On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 11:41:37 -0700 (PDT) Mark Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: +Books: Rocks From Space by O. Richard Norton + Cambridge Encyclopedia Of Meteorites + http://www.vftn.org/projects/moschkau/index.htm + http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/ + http://astrogeology.usgs.gov/ + + A few things to get you started . . . good luck. +Impacts are a bear to prove. I would also recommend looking at: 1. Traces of Catastrophe: A Handbook of Shock- Metamorphic Effects in Terrestrial Meteorite Impact Structures by Bevan M. French (1998) at: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications/books/CB-954/CB-954.intro.html 2. Koerbel, C., 1997, Impact cratering: the mineralogical and geochemical evidence. , in K. S. Johnson and J. A. Campbell, eds., Ames Structure in Northwest Oklahoma and Similar Features: origin and Petroleum Production (1995 Symposium): Oklahoma Geological Survey Circular, no. 100, p. 30-54. 3. Montanari, A., and Koeberl, C., 2000, Impact Stratigraphy: The Italian Record. Lecture Notes in Earth Sciences, Springer, 364 pp. 4. Grieve, R. A. F., 1991, Terrestrial impact: The record in the rocks: Meteoritics, v. 26, pp. 175-194. Yours Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina?
the "flames" unsell it for me. From: Ron Baalke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Meteorite Mailing List) Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Lands In Back Yard In South Carolina? Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:10:28 -0700 (PDT) http://www.beaufortgazette.com/local_news/story/2606419p-2418584c.html Meteorite lands in back yard By CHRIS BENDER The Beafort Gazette (South Carolina) June 10, 2003 Dianne Morris saw something out of this world while walking her dogs early Monday morning. A meteorite landed in the Beaufort resident's back yard at about 3:40 a.m. "I was only about 15 feet away from it when it came down," said Morris. "It had a smoky white tail." Morris said small glowing flames dropped from it as it came down and it made a loud popping sound before hitting the ground. It didn't leave a depression, and she was able to pick up several pieces. Morris plans on keeping the few extraterrestrial pieces. While reports like Morris' do come in on occasion, they usually aren't actual meteorites, said Christina Lacey, a professor at the University of South Carolina's physics and astronomy department. "I've never heard of (the reports) panning out," Lacey said. "Certainly, meteorites do hit the Earth." Nothing unusual was detected by the radar at the air station Monday morning, said Master Sgt. Terrance Peck, public affairs chief for Marine Corps Air Station Beaufort. Officials at the National Weather Service in Charleston said a meteorite would be moving too fast for them to track. What a meteorite is made of is one of the factors that determines whether it makes it to the Earth's surface. Lacey said meteorites coming from passing comets, which are composed of ice, usually burn up, while iron-based meteorites that come from asteroids might make it to the surface. Meteorites usually are made of melted minerals with some containing iron-nickel alloys. "Most meteorites tend to be very simple" in composition, Lacey said. "Most meteorites do land in water." According to the National Air and Space Administration's Web site, each day as many as 4 billion meteoroids, most minuscule in size, enter Earth's atmosphere. Most of these meteors burn up from atmospheric friction and never reach the ground. The angle at which the meteoroid enters the planet's atmosphere can also determine whether it breaks up, skips back into space or explodes. Lacey said rarely do man-made meteorites make it to Earth, and when they do it's usually over water. If someone does recover something they think is a meteorite, Lacey said geologists can usually tell whether it's from outer space or not. "You could talk to the geology department at Clemson, the University of South Carolina or the College of Charleston and they could identify it," Lacey said. "A lot of times they can do it just by looking at it." Morris said she doesn't plan on doing anything like that, though she does admit it's somewhat unbelievable. "I just wish I had a video camera at the time," she said. "Without a movie, it's like no one believes you." Contact Chris Bender at 986-5553 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
Gregory, Would this not (if fact) also directly imply that Rosie and Sir Rob may in fact be kissin' cousins? More research would definitely be in order. Steve --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up the line ) and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. Rosie - The notion that you are related to all these folks (combined with past references to Lady Godiva and Princess Di and various others) means that they must ipso facto be related to each other. It would be hard to avoid some pesky genealogical problems here, unless you are just making the claims in fun. Gregory = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 869
Now, I cant have a NWA869 thread going without taking the opportunity to try and get some sales out of it. The 500 Kilo figure is way low. I have gone through nearly 1000 kilos just myself. And I know that there is lots more. The total weight is at least 1500 kilos. I have 150 kilos here now (And all for sale) and another 100 kilos in Morocco at the present time so if people wants quantities let me know. I have sold well over $100,000 worth of NWA869 in the past two years and many show dealers have been buying quantities from me and regularly reordering more. Here is some info: My first experience with the meteorite was when a local in morocco sent me a few kilos and then after I saw it I agreed to buy 70 kilos and I was told me that that was all that there was and that I had the entire strewnfield. But after I paid for the 70 kilos another 100 kilos got offered to me (And then another 50 or so kilos, and then --- well you get the idea). But I wasnt the first as before I was even aware of it I know of another dealer who went to a show in europe and passed of 100 kilos of NWA869 as his own find. Like me, I suspect that he was told that that 100 kilos is all that there was and that he had the entire strewnfield. Other Moroccan dealers in tucson has it also as well as most of the regular international buyers that go to Morocco. So I am pretty confident that the TKW is at least 1500 kilos. As far as it being brecciated or not I wont comment on that but I encourage you to look at the photos in this ebay auction #2178840548. Hard to beleive that that is not brecciated when you see that photo. And I should also note that I have huge numbers of NWA869 listed on ebay. Try this URL http://tinyurl.com/d5dq which should bring you to just my meteorite auctions and allow you to be able to avoid sorting through the other hundreds of auctions of unteresting junk that I sell on ebay and just see meteorites. If that URL dont work just search my user id AMUNRE. I have a big cutting session planned for tonight so lots of new cut NWA869 pieces should be on ebay tomorrow Cheers DEAN www.meteoriteshop.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ga clay minerals conference
went to the ga clay minerals conference in athens yesterday w/ ed albin. there were some amazing , hi-end, doctorate -level talks on tektites, micro tektites , micrometeorites. GOOD scientific info on just about every possible tektite causing event from chesapeake to n. KT event was there in well laid out, scientific format. our feature was an abstract on the newly recovered 86G ga tektite (the largest ga splash form tektite known) and the weathering and transportation of ga tektites from the upper eocene down to lower elevation miocene deposits where they are found today. robert strange was there w/ the only mong nuong ga tektite (that is also the largest ever known @ 130+G before it was cut). there were kt micro tektites from al, bill glass was there, loads of maps, geochemistry, s.e.m. stuff, x-ray spectro stuff, shock quartz, you name it, etc.. LOADS of fun, VERY informative, info on just about any tektite-related subject- will post to this list next year as this was a must attend for any serious tektite collectorAdd photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] analytical services
To all: The reason that I am e-mailing all of you is, I am now starting a business of my own, offering SEM, XRD, and electron microprobe services. I have extensive experience with all of the above, since my thesis relied heavilty on their use. I would be happy to discuss prices with you individually. In some rare cases, I may be interested in specimens in lieu of monitary payment (especially an Atlanta, Louisiana piece). If interested, please let me know your opinion(s) on the subject. Thanks for your time and attention. (note the shameless plug in the P.S.below :-)) Randy Elder New Orleans, LA IMCA #6118 P.S. We're expecting (and were not planning) a baby and got caught with NO maternity coverage I could use the business!
Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
Please unsubscribe me from this List. Sorry to have offended all. Thank you. [EMAIL PROTECTED]LT Colonel Rosemary T Hackney ( Rosie ) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/06/10 Tue PM 04:27:40 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re: [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up the line ) and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. Rosie - The notion that you are related to all these folks (combined with past references to Lady Godiva and Princess Di and various others) means that they must ipso facto be related to each other. It would be hard to avoid some pesky genealogical problems here, unless you are just making the claims in fun. Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: William the Conqueror ( he was a granddaddy up the line ) and so was a King named Olaf ( I think he was Danish) ( pretty much Viking I would say )as well as some of those Louises and those Plantagenet fellows. Alexander the Great and Ptolemy and a couple of pharoahs. Now you know why I am so mixed up.. Rosie - The notion that you are related to all these folks (combined with past references to Lady Godiva and Princess Di and various others) means that they must ipso facto be related to each other. It would be hard to avoid some pesky genealogical problems here, unless you are just making the claims in fun. Gregory
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
Please unsubscribe me from this List. Sorry to have offended all. Not sure where the "offended" part comes in here, Rosie. I'm somewhat of a genealogical student of European Royalty, and I was just merely stating that it simply doesn't work, to claim that William the Conqueror, Cleopatra, Princess Di, David, Solomon, Eleanor of Acquitaine, Lady Godiva, the Plantagenets, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lighthorse Harry Lee, James Monroe, Richard Nixon, Robert E. Lee, Lady Godiva, the Pharaohs, Richard the Lionhearted, Ptolemy, and King Olaf are all related to each other. There's no "offense" taken, it's just that such a claim is sorta the genealogical equivalent of the Frass Meteorite. ;-) If you're just kidding around with it, fine, but please don't ask anyone to actually believe it. Don't go anywhere on MY account. And speaking of meteorites.;-) Gregory
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
Please unsubscribe me from this List. Sorry to have offended all. Oh, c'mon Rosie. This is hardly the first time for this scenario, so how about if we all just cut to the now-familiar chase: everyone (including me) pleads with you to stay, and you do. Less bandwidth. OK? Gregory
[meteorite-list] RE: impact area (a hobby of mine actually)
At the risk of being accused of blowing my own horn, please check out: http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/index.html Chuck O'Dale Ottawa __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: impact area (a hobby of mine actually)
Hello, Chuck and the list, really great combination, astronomy, geology and aviation. Well, seems I have to write to Santa and ask for a plane, just a small one...;- Very nice sites and excpecially pics. take care, pekka Charles O'Dale wrote: At the risk of being accused of blowing my own horn, please check out: http://www.ottawa.rasc.ca/astronomy/earth_craters/index.html Chuck O'Dale Ottawa __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
You said Lady Godiva twice Gregory :^)--Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ? Please unsubscribe me from this List. Sorry to have offended all.Not sure where the "offended" part comes in here, Rosie. I'm somewhat of a genealogical student of European Royalty, and I was just merely stating that it simply doesn't work, to claim that William the Conqueror, Cleopatra, Princess Di, David, Solomon, Eleanor of Acquitaine, Lady Godiva, the Plantagenets, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lighthorse Harry Lee, James Monroe, Richard Nixon, Robert E. Lee, Lady Godiva, the Pharaohs, Richard the Lionhearted, Ptolemy, and King Olaf are all related to each other. There's no "offense" taken, it's just that such a claim is sorta the genealogical equivalent of the Frass Meteorite. ;-) If you're just kidding around with it, fine, but please don't ask anyone to actually believe it. Don't go anywhere on MY account. And speaking of meteorites.;-) Gregory
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
You said Lady Godiva twice Gregory :^) Well, I guess I had that image in my head more than any of the others. ;-)
[meteorite-list] AD: Nininger Museum and Meteor Crater Postcards
Hello Everybody, Just made some Meteor Crater and Nininger Museum postcards from photos I took a couple months ago. Each postcard is also signed, numbered and limited to only 500. I have one of each on eBay and have also posted them on my website. If you purchased a Nininger Museum brick from me, e-mail me and I will send you a free postcard. (More bricks are on my website as well). Sincethey are numbered out of 500, both cards have one card numbered 1and one card numbered500 ( 1/500 or 500/500), if interested ineither of these cards let me know. The cards numbered 1 are $20.00 each and the numbered, either of the 500numbered cards are $15.00. Other numbers are priced much lower. Thanks, Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] Sales Ad eBay Listings
Greetings List, I'm listing some nice meteorites on eBay. Listed so far, a slice of Cape York, an incedible specimen of Sikhote-Alin, and coincidently, two great specimens of NWA 869. One of them is a half specimen (endcut) that show the collection in a slice characteristics of this incredible meteorite. See: http://members.aol.ebay.com/aboutme/anorthosite/ = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
With only 5 individual identified Mitochondrial DNA pairs in the human species(thats the kind you get from your mom) they are all related in their basic DNA. So it is possible at a very basic level that they are all related. Mark M. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ? Please unsubscribe me from this List. Sorry to have offended all.Not sure where the "offended" part comes in here, Rosie. I'm somewhat of a genealogical student of European Royalty, and I was just merely stating that it simply doesn't work, to claim that William the Conqueror, Cleopatra, Princess Di, David, Solomon, Eleanor of Acquitaine, Lady Godiva, the Plantagenets, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Lighthorse Harry Lee, James Monroe, Richard Nixon, Robert E. Lee, Lady Godiva, the Pharaohs, Richard the Lionhearted, Ptolemy, and King Olaf are all related to each other. There's no "offense" taken, it's just that such a claim is sorta the genealogical equivalent of the Frass Meteorite. ;-) If you're just kidding around with it, fine, but please don't ask anyone to actually believe it. Don't go anywhere on MY account. And speaking of meteorites.;-) Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Bessy's specks and Intel's play microscope
| SaU90 a Martian meteorite. | | Here are the results: | | At 10x | http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey/SaU90a.jpg | | At 60x | http://www.geocities.com/american_meteorite_survey/SaU90b.jpg | | Great microscope for these very small specks, not even | a mm in size as the scale shows. | | Hard to say what they are, though I will have to trust | Dean and be sure not to lose the label. Thanks for the pictures Steve, looks like a shergotite to my eyes. I got one of the Intel microscopes, they work well. The kids enjoy it too. :} What would be useful, is a way to set your white point for a particular setup, which would avoid the greenish tint from a fluoro or whatever. regards to all chris sharp __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
Hi, On average, if you pick any two human individuals, each from any random location on the planet, and test the degree of relatedness of their DNA, you will find they're about 13th cousins. That's with widely assorted human specimens, like comparing an Australian aboriginal with an Irish cop from the Bronx... On the other hand, if you select individuals from a restricted area with a fairly homogeneous population, like Ireland, you will average a relationship ranging from 5th to 7th cousins. (This would be ideal spot to insert a joke about selecting individuals from eastern Kentucky or Arkansas, but I'm not going to do it. Huh-uh, not me.) What this implies is that modern humans are a recent and hence very uniform species. Two mice picked at random would show 10 to 12 times the genetic divergence of randomly selected human beings. And still, you know, all those mice look alike to me Sterling K. Webb -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they are all related in their basic DNA. So it is possible at a very basic level that they are all related. OK, then if that's the case, isn't it rather pointless for any one person to specify ancestors, since everyone ELSE is related to them, too? Or am I drinking my own bath water? ;-) Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] King tut?
Greetings John and list, I am so glad you explained what a leaverite is. All this time I've been carrying them home, sawing them in half and making myself nuts trying to find somthing in them that isn't there. I sure could have saved a lot of time and trouble if I had learned this sooner. By the way, do you know where I can find some discriminite? Happy Hunting, Art goldmaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message -From: "goldmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "magellon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:54 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] King tut? Hi Ken and List Most of us that are keen on hunting space rocks and gold nuggets seem to find a lot of those groups of mineral specimens . In that group are chuckerites, leaverites and pitcherites . As in chucker rite over thereouta my way . Or leaver rite there !! Or pitcher rite up under that bush so I won't dig that gosh darn hot rock up again !! Just so you won't ask what a hot rock is !! It's a useless good for nothing earth stone that makes a detector beep !! I hope I answered your question ?? Happy Hunting John Blennert Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM).
Re: Please Unsubcribe... [meteorite-list] avoirdupois ?
The most recent data I have seen shows in theory that ALL living modern humans can trace their existence back to no more than 5 individual females and no more that 30 individual males. Speculation from the really exotic all the way down to perfectly plausible scientific projections are a lot of fun to bat back and forth, but for all practical purposes, it seems to me that the primitive, boring procedure of tracing actual familial lines and figuring out who is demonstrably related to whom is hardly obsolete. Sure, we can all come from the same DNA source and we can all be related to each other if we try hard enough, through clever wordplay or speculative, slightly massaged (perhaps) science, just as meteorites COULD very well take forms other than those we currently recognize. Maybe there are meteorites that look just like ping-pong paddles and are made of brie cheese. But if we're just talking about practical, day-to-day genealogy rather than expansive theoretical canvasses, surely it's still more useful to base it in empirical evidencerather like using meteoritical science to identify meteorites, rather than posing lots of cool-sounding but unanswerable possibilities. ;-) Gregory
[meteorite-list] Re: Please Unsubcribe...
Title: Re: Please Unsubcribe... Hi All, I have a strange phenomenon wherein I have received only the posts of Gregory since 2:53 PM - yet he is clearly (in all 6 I received) responding to others who apparently are posting as well. Anyone else experience this??? RSVP Thanks, Michael on 6/10/03 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most recent data I have seen shows in theory that ALL living modern humans can trace their existence back to no more than 5 individual females and no more that 30 individual males. Speculation from the really exotic all the way down to perfectly plausible scientific projections are a lot of fun to bat back and forth, but for all practical purposes, it seems to me that the primitive, boring procedure of tracing actual familial lines and figuring out who is demonstrably related to whom is hardly obsolete. Sure, we can all come from the same DNA source and we can all be related to each other if we try hard enough, through clever wordplay or speculative, slightly massaged (perhaps) science, just as meteorites COULD very well take forms other than those we currently recognize. Maybe there are meteorites that look just like ping-pong paddles and are made of brie cheese. But if we're just talking about practical, day-to-day genealogy rather than expansive theoretical canvasses, surely it's still more useful to base it in empirical evidencerather like using meteoritical science to identify meteorites, rather than posing lots of cool-sounding but unanswerable possibilities. ;-) Gregory I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them. George Bush -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/MeteorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/
