Re: [meteorite-list] Is there room for a meteorite question ?
Hello Lars, The cooling speed must remain within the limits of a few degrees per million years for the nickel atoms to migrate and align. I think the temperature bands where Widmanstätten pattern (i.e. taenite/kamacite lattices) can occur is between 1400° and 800°C. (pressure relative). Above 1400° is molten and below 800° only kamacite forms. The width of the spaces are directly related to cooling duration. Finer lattice indicates a shorter cooling cycle. The bands /pattern will remain at what ever level they were if cooling suddenly drops below 800°C.. To my knowledge the Rare Earth Element (REE) chemistry values haven't been cross matched between fine to course. That is no evidence links any of the iron classes to any common parent body. Someone may have now checked this as my research is old. Intuitively, it seems to make sense that there is a gradient from core to surface, however the high thermo-transmission co-effecients of nickel -iron might keep an average sized asteroid even tempered. perhaps someone else has detailed information. Does anyone have information about common parent bodies for Iron meteorites? Regards, Elton Lars Pedersen wrote: I was just looking at the Widmanstätten pattern on a few of my iron-slices I was wondering if anyone know if the cooling speed of the asteroid core has something to do with the pattern (from fine toward coarse) ? I thought that maybe the coarser types maybe are from deeper in the core ? My english is not the best but I hope you understand what I mean. Best wishes Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Is there room for a meteorite question ?
On the same note, thermal expansion... Presumably as the core solidifies (cools down) it would contract, would it not?, what effect would that have on the crystalline structure (widmanstatten) would there be a gradual stress/distortion in the taenite/kamacite boundries ? I guess as the core is such a big mass, any significant thermal contraction distortion would hardly be noticeable in a small hand specimen but I would imagine the thermal contraction in something the size of a large planetary body would be massive. Mark Ford The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ADD - Great Bargains still remain
Hi all Ebay auctions ending tonight. I can not believe some of the pricesespecially a 52 gram specimen of OCHANSK Russia at currently only $1.75 per gram. I can show you two dealer's websites that have this at $10- per gram. You could buy it, smash it with a hammer and sell if for half the dealer's price and still double your money. Follow this link to see all the auctions http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ Best Wishes to all. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] top ten positive
Hi all, These are only the impressions of a newbie. I tried to come up with a list of the 10 contributors that had the most positive affect on me. Yes, believe it or not new people come here and expect an education of sorts. I died laughing when I saw the first Tom thing. I only saw a small part of the second. Funny as that stuff is, I hate to see it take priority. I could go on about freedom of speech and all that, Matteo doesn't seem to understand how much lattitude he really is allowed. So far all I have is, 1. Ron Balke 2. Ron Balke 3. Ron Balke 4. Steve Schoner 5. Mike Farmer 6. ? 7. ? 8. ? 9. ? 10. The hoola Hupes All the best, Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Something for Everybody
List: The problem with giving good advice to those that need it most, is that if they had the wit to recognize it as good advice, they wouldn't have needed that particular advice in the first place, and if they don't get it, they won't get it, et cetera... Matteo: We've noticed that you do not love jokes which is likely why they love you so much Proud Tom: As part owner of an ISP, I can assure you that should the need arise, I can always find you a quiet little refuge on a hard drive somewhere, safe and sheltered from the ill winds that may blow from any foul and pestilential Venetian marshes. Yup, I can see Matteo and his slick Eytalian law- yers a-coming to the county courthouse in my rural semi-southern and only one-party county. C'mon down, Matteo, boy! I gotta lotta kin down to the courthouse; they'll treat you right, son, I guuuarant it! List: We are so lucky. We couldn't have invented Matteo if we tried. He's more fun than a barrel full of monkeys. Yes, meteorites AND quality entertainment! Sterling - M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: Hello I not love jokes. Regards Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Saw One Fireball
Well, I finally got to see a small fireball during twilight tonight at 5:26 PST. In the NE Quad about 15 deg. above the horizon and streaking due East. After it entered the atmosphere, it lasted for about 3 seconds and I saw a few particles fall off and trail behind. Bright green and white glow. It extingquished about 5 degrees above the horizon. Location, Barstow, CA. Really nice sight that was. John
[meteorite-list] ADD - Great Bargains still remain
Hi all Ebay auctions ending tonight. I can not believe some of the pricesespecially a 52 gram specimen of OCHANSK Russia at currently only $1.75 per gram. I can show you two dealer's websites that have this at $10- per gram. You could buy it, smash it with a hammer and sell if for half the dealer's price and still double your money. Follow this link to see all the auctions" http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ Best Wishes to all. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
Re: [meteorite-list] My Top 10 of classic meteorites for Beginners
Martin and others, Martin, with your list you have captured my thought that started this thread. What classic meteorites are first rate, recommended and available to collectors, and as rocks should remain stable in our lifetime. Mark Bostick, your list list also captured this thought. Other lists were a combination of classics and personal favorites. Another list given by Chicago Steve is, well...unique. Norbert's list is an all-galaxy roster of primo cut/choice materials that do belong on some kind of all time list. What a list it was...I wish they were available to all of us. My first list was written in about 3 minutes...I did not put a lot of thought into it but would only change a few to create my own classic list...meteorites that we all should own. I'll give this list to others one day when they ask...What would you recommend I start my collection with? The classics of course. John PS Maybe I'll make it a list of 20, or 50... Hi - here's my Beginner's Top Ten, because I'm sometimes asked, which meteorites would be suitable for the beginning collector. 1. Mundrabilla (etched) 2. Juancheng 3. Sikhote-Alin 4. Allende 5. Millbillillie 6. A big unclassified NWA 7. DaG 735 8. A meteorite from your home country 9. Vaca Muerta 10. Dho 461 Remarks: 1. Mundrabilla with a proper etching is one of the most beautiful iron meteorites. The lamellae are short and the fields small , thus already on small surfaces there are a lot of details and the pattern visible (Neumanns, Troilit eyes, sometimes barred..). If you don't find an etched Mundrabilla, take a Gibeon, but take care, that the Widmannstättern are not faible. 2. Juancheng It's an obseved fall, cheap and much fresher than the Gao-Guenies. Perfect Peas like Pultusk. Cut, it's one of the best breccias, which you will find for the money. 3. Sikhote, of course. A famous fall, well available. Choose an entire specimen with good regmaglypts (no shrapnel) and try to get a blue one with real fusion crust. It's the largest iron shower in modern times and the single one which produced such an immense number of complete, regmaglypted fresh individuals. No similar iron is available at a comparable low price. 4. Allende. one of the cheapest CV3. Covers the corbonaceous group. Contains the oldest known minerals of the solar system. Observed fall. Take care not to buy a brownish weathered specimen, choose a cut specimen with those large witish, irregular shaped inclusions, called CAIs. 5. For the HED-Group Achondrites Millbillillie is ideal, it's fresh, a classic locality and not more expensive than most of the weathered desert eucrites. Take a fullslice or an endcut. Pay not more than 15/g at a dealer or try to get it cheaper from ebay. 6. Now you'll need a real big specimen for putting on the desk, for impressing your friends, for playing and for satisfying your haptic desires. Take an unclassified desert find from ebay, don't pay more than 80-120/kg, except it is a fresh crusted or oriented one. Criteria for the choice: You just have to like it and it has to be LARGE! 7. All beginners want to have a piece from Moon or Mars! DaG 735 is fresher than DaG 476, both are the cheapest SNCs. Normal price on ebay would be +/- 250$/g nowadays. Beware of those enthusiasts, who still have them on their pages at prices from years ago of 1200/g and up. 8. All collectors will feel after a while, that they urgently need a meteorite found as near as possible to their homes. Search the BMH-online database to find the findsfalls of your home county and then: happy hunting! 9. Vaca Muerta is by far the cheapest Mesosiderite. Cheaper than all rusty, crusty desert Mesos. Take a cut specimen, it should be as fresh as possible (take a look if it has much fresh metal) and choose that one, which has the largest variety of inclusions. Pay not more than 2 - 2.5$/g. If it should be a Pallasite: Brenham and Brahin are by far the cheapest, but problematic concerning rust. Choose a sealed slice (and this is still no guarantee, that it will remain stable!). Take a Brahin from ebay and don't pay more than 2$/g. More expensive, but aesthetic and good boys, are Imilac and Esquel. Very stable without any prevention. Translucent slices of Imilac (forget the individuals of Imilac, mostly they are skeletons without olivines) starts approx. at 15/g, but are more difficult to find than Esquel. 10. See 7. Why Dho 461? Because some fools recently got hysteric about a little oscillation of the Moon prices and didn't get it yet, that the prices are now again the same as before this short period, so that they still throw away their Dho 461 at 500$/g, which is a somewhat silly cheap price, hehe. Keep your fingers away from Nantan, Campo del Cielo, Dronino - they are dirt cheap, but often rust like hell, so that it's no fun at the beginning and they will stay cheap until you are more
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!
Matteo, you are sucha friggin idiot, in one sentance you talk about my Mocs being too high, and you pay less, in the next whining about prices and how you wont give away the meterial, WHICH IS IT, you cant have it both ways, either prices are too high or two low, what the $#$#$#$ do you want to say, once and for all please god help us all get this guy clear! - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! First pieces buy few days ago pay $20/gr., and I have see others sale for $30/gr. for little piecesah, I put the price I want, if I want I put kunyah for $1/gr. if I want ruin the price.but you see the same, your old pieces put on ebay no go sold why now the persons want find historical material for low prices, type your Mocs, nice piece put for $500 but if I search I take this for $9/gr.I have pay my gr.37 Mocs for $350 and this is $9.4/gr. and you see in person, now the buyers want all material for low prices, sorry but I no gift the material. --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually when Kunya came out, it sold for $3 to $4 gram, I bought alot of it. Sold for $5 to 8 gram. Only in Italy was it $20 gram. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:20 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! when exit kunyah go sold for $20/gr. or probably you have clear the lies, like a lot here inside? Oh yes yes...now many gift meteorites on ebay... --- Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, for example think that you won't find a dumbass buying a Kunya Urgench for $10/g - I really doubt such idiots exist. -Original Message- From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:04 PM To: Bernhard Rendelius Rems Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! not interested, I have others buy meteorites from me...not interested in a group of childs type your friends. --- Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matteo, Just to let you know that I will NEVER buy a meteorite from you. Your behaviour is absolutely childish. Bernhard Rems Vienna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! addieu Tomto the member like to put another site I warning that is time wasted, seen that every time the site go canceled. Matteo --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grab onto your hats and get ready for a wild ride - PROUD TOM is back and can be seen at: http://www.x-mail.net/proudtom1/index.html This issue has links to: The ORIGINAL site Lampoon Articles by Steve Shoner Michael Cottingham Tom Lang Michael Blood (that's me) The Big Collector Dean Bessey, The Hupes Stu - Thanks for the belly busting laughs, Proud Tom! Best wishes, Michael Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater /Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer
Don Matteo. Self appointed godfather of meteorites. His iron hand has a limitless reach. Beware. Bill Kieskowski Honestly Matteo, As far as cowards go , I wonder if you would really say all the things that you say if you werent oceans apart from the rest of us. B.E. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer you are a coward, do not just go out some uncomfortable things for you escape immediately --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I love you Matteo and I wish you all the best. Have a wonderful holiday time. I really love you man! Really! If you ever need a place to stay when you come to the US...please give me a call man! I love you a lot. Bye for now! Maybe I will get to dream of you again...tonight! Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer well well show me your registered numbers, only a little problems, I HAVE RESENT TO YOU the shirokowsky slice via registered letter and its arrive but YOU never have re-sent the money back! The same for Campo Sales, NEVER arrive here and I HAVE ASK - AND PAY - a shipment via registered letter just for no repeat the problems with other packs never arrive here, and the same the Campo sales pack its never arrive why you have sent probably via ordinary mailgood? --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait to the cows come home ...you thief. We traded for shivorskyand all packs were sent. You just tell the world they didn't arrive! Same old scam man. I think everyone is tired of this. Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer Mr Cottingham I am under waith your $75 refund of Shirokowsky 1 gr. slice, your Campo Sales slice never sent and your over $500 packs never sent after I have request a registered shipment and you have sent via ordinary method.I have all your emails and paypal receipt. I am under waith --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You be superman Matteo use your X-ray vision. I am the walrus...you are the eggman Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer I do not have problems, I have excellent methods to find who produces the space web or does like --- Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom it may concern: I will gladly offer a new and permanent home to the Proud Tom site on the server I am authorative for. I own a dedicated server which noone can turn off or take pages offline without forcing legal action on me (and I doubt even an Like Matteo will try that). I am aware that I will know then who does the site - but you should be aware that I don't care. Bernhard Rems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! by bye Tom --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spiderman... Cool! Ain't free speech wonderful? :-) Stu = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association
[meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names
Hello Collectors; I'd be hard pressed to pick only ten of my favorite meteorites as I have so many that impress me with their internal or external structure, shape or beauty. But as to the names of meteorites, well, here are my top ten names: 1. Apex (At the top of my list.) 2. Answer (What's the question?) 3. Bagnone (And why not?) 4. Barwise (Something it took me years to become.) 5. Beer Bottle Pass (See #4.) 6. Big Rock Donga (The nick name I'd love to have...Hey guys, there goes Big Rock Donga!) 7. Broken Bow (From Custer Co., the kid in me still loves Cowboys and Indians.) 8. Cartoonkana (Because I have Cartoon Karma. Would one of you Aussie lads tell me what the "kana" means? A close second to Cartoonkana is Camel Donga. Does Donga mean "big expanse" or "hot desert" or "Kangaroo droppings" or what?) 9. Crab Hole (Well, because I like the critters, both along the shore and in my soup!) 10. Cockelbiddy (Hey, the Aussies do have a way with names, like Dingo Pup Donga, Gunnadorah, Kittakittaooloo, Millbillillie, Milly Milly, etc. Do the Aussies stay up late at night, drinking one beer after another, trying to out do each other with wild names? Like...George named his Donga "Dingo Pup", so I'm gonna name mine "Muckera Laundry Rockhole Big Rear Rabbit Donga!" ) That's my top ten list up to the D's. High Regards To All, Fred "Big Rock Donga" Hall
[meteorite-list] unusual ebay listing for Christmas! AD iron bomb fragments
Dear Listees; For your metal detector fun, I have listed at ebay, a lot of iron cubes that would make great detector testing items, or for fun with your detector buddies when you all get your detectors out to search for meteorites. Feeling a little devilish this holiday season. Best, Dave Freeman IMCA# 3864 mjwy with auctions running! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Old Roman coins
extract from the Catalogue of the Ward-Coonley collection of meteorites, by Henry A. Ward. 1904 edition. XI. MEDALS OF METEORITES. The people of antiquity looked upon the heavenly bodies as the places of abode of gods and being higher than mankind. Thus it came to pass that they gave divine worship to objects which were seen to fall from the celestail spaces. They built special temples, in which they preserved them with sacred care. They were also displayed for public worship under a priest appointed for the special purpose. These Meteorites received from the early Greeks the name Betyls, probably from the earlier Hebraic Beth-el, or home of God. In the early centuries--both B.C. and A.D.--the habit prevailed in Macedonia, Cyprus, Mallos, Perge, Sidon, Tripolis, Tyrus and many other places to make medals to commemorate the fall of meteorites. Such medals were struck by order of Philip II, Alexander III, Augustus, Caligula, Vespasian, Trajan, Marcus Aurelius, Septimus Severus, Heliogabalus, and others. Dr Aristides Brezina, of Vienna, has given much study to this numismatic meteorology. From him our collection has received a series of sixty casts or replica of these medals. We give below Dr. Brezina's list of these with his prefatory words: BETYL COINS. By Dr. Aristides Brezina As the ancients supposed the stars to be the domiciles of gods, falling stars and falling meteorites signified to them the descending of a god or the sending of his image to the earth. These envoys were received with divine honors, embalmed and draped and worshipped in temples by emperors and autonomous cities. In general the image of a stone was first given in naturalistic manner, then by and by became more human-like. Many of these betyl coins represent stones expressly reported to have fallen from heaven. They present many common features, the likeness to obelisks or cones, and later on a half-human likeness or half-iconic form. So it came that similar representations of unknown origin were likewise supposed to represent meteorites in the same manner as among meteorites are recorded those seen to fall and others which had been only found and had been supposed to be meteorites because of the likeness to the former and their difference from terrestrial rocks. Betyls reported to have fallen from heaven are the Ompholos of Delphi, represented on coins of sixty-five towns and countries; the stone of Emisa (El Gabol) from seven towns; Zeus Katabates of Kyrrboro and Anazarbos, Zeus Keraunios (two towns); stone of Aphrodite Paphia (five towns); Artemis Ephesia (sixty-nine towns); stone of Astarte (eight towns); stones of Athena (seventeen towns). Betyl coins accepted by analogy are: The Pyramids of Apollon, the Stones of Zeus Dolicheros of Tarsos and of Zeus Kasios of Seleucia, the Simulacres of Artemis Pergia, Samian Hera, Persephone, etc., together 342 towns. Related celestial bodies are the Comets, represented on the coins of Rome and (in modern times) of Silesia. The present collection of sixty coins with meteorits symbols represents nineteen deites and thirty-seven towns. [Footnote..The full collection of Betyl medals of Dr. Brezina number several hundred kinds.] [ Lars, I have also some pictures from the 1901 edition which I will send seperate ] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Hello all Does anyone have an idea of how many different old Romans have relation to meteorites ? And does anyone have pictures/data of them ? If so, I will be happy if someone will send me the pics. I have a fast connection so hi reolution is ok. Best wishes Lars Pedersen __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Eric Hutton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. John Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ah for the old days
Ahh how I wish for the old days.Where are THE STRUCK ONES when you need them the most.I guess the are under wriathThis is like a never ending soap opera.Hey everyone needs to be in the care of THE STRUCK ONES! steve arnold, chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!
Please DO hold your breath...for about 15 minutes. John Gwilliam PO Box 26954 Tempe, AZ 85282 At 03:18 PM 12/8/03 -0500, Jim Strope wrote: Don't hold your breath. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: if you like many this joke, send to me a your photo and a build for you a similar Tom Idiot site therefore then you laugh of taste Matteo, I am sending you a photo momentarily. I look forward to the comedy-website you will produce. Please let us all know when it is ready. Gregory J. Gregory Wilson 2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918 Santa Monica, CA 90403
[meteorite-list] Satirize me! Satirize me!!
I hereby give permission to satirize me in any meteoritical fashion in a website; sorry, I haven't gotten far enough out of the dark ages yet to have a photo digitized. Wait until Tucson. :-P Tracy Latimer _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock?
Thanks for your help everyone.. Here are the answers to various questions I received. Looks like the going opinion is that is just a rock though. Q: Does yours streak black? (And I mean REALLY black.) A: Does not streak at all. Very hard rock. Q: See if you can estimate its density. A: Not sure how to estimate a density but it is one of the densest I have come across. Q: My first guess is some sort of slag, but it could be natural too. A: Definitely not man-made, this was in the middle of nowhere (discovered it while hunting). There are few towns in that part of the state and the only industry I am aware of is cattle. Q: Any rail road with in 10 miles? A: Nope Q: That face looks like zinc or lead. A: Don't know a the qualities of zinc but I can say for certain it is not lead. -Original message- I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern Oregon desert a couple months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak but present attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the meteorites I've seen but the magnetic attraction and the rounded surface crust make me wonder. What do you think? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
Hello List, My best guess to the author of Proud Tom, I will not tell, but his are initials J.S. Just a guess but I think I am right! If Old J.S. is the author, I wanted him to know I think he has done a great Job : ) If J.S. is not the author, well who ever is, is doing a great Job! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. John Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer
Dear List, Joseph; I spent some time at the Met Society web site last evening, quite special...though didn't see Matteo's name listed anywhere. DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don Matteo. Self appointed godfather of meteorites. His iron hand has a limitless reach. Beware. Bill Kieskowski Honestly Matteo, As far as cowards go , I wonder if you would really say all the things that you say if you werent oceans apart from the rest of us. B.E. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer you are a coward, do not just go out some uncomfortable things for you escape immediately --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I love you Matteo and I wish you all the best. Have a wonderful holiday time. I really love you man! Really! If you ever need a place to stay when you come to the US...please give me a call man! I love you a lot. Bye for now! Maybe I will get to dream of you again...tonight! Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer well well show me your registered numbers, only a little problems, I HAVE RESENT TO YOU the shirokowsky slice via registered letter and its arrive but YOU never have re-sent the money back! The same for Campo Sales, NEVER arrive here and I HAVE ASK - AND PAY - a shipment via registered letter just for no repeat the problems with other packs never arrive here, and the same the Campo sales pack its never arrive why you have sent probably via ordinary mailgood? --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wait to the cows come home ...you thief. We traded for shivorskyand all packs were sent. You just tell the world they didn't arrive! Same old scam man. I think everyone is tired of this. Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer Mr Cottingham I am under waith your $75 refund of Shirokowsky 1 gr. slice, your Campo Sales slice never sent and your over $500 packs never sent after I have request a registered shipment and you have sent via ordinary method.I have all your emails and paypal receipt. I am under waith --- Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You be superman Matteo use your X-ray vision. I am the walrus...you are the eggman Michael - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! - An offer I do not have problems, I have excellent methods to find who produces the space web or does like --- Bernhard \Rendelius\ Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To whom it may concern: I will gladly offer a new and permanent home to the Proud Tom site on the server I am authorative for. I own a dedicated server which noone can turn off or take pages offline without forcing legal action on me (and I doubt even an Like Matteo will try that). I am aware that I will know then who does the site - but you should be aware that I don't care. Bernhard Rems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M come Meteorite Meteorites Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is go! by bye Tom --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spiderman... Cool! Ain't free speech wonderful? :-) Stu = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list === message truncated === = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names
Fred, lol Your post it made me Wonder whether we should run a light hearted 'competition for the best sounding fictitious meteorite name!?' Here are my contributions 'Upshit creek' 'Bond 007' 'South Park Forest' 'Mill-Hill-Billy' C'mon I am sure some of you can do better? Mark F. The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
No, not me. I wish I could take credit as he sure has a good sense of humor. Plus, I know one list member who offered a case of beer and free meal at the Tucson Show for who ever it is. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry Hello List, My best guess to the author of Proud Tom, I will not tell, but his are initials J.S. Just a guess but I think I am right! If Old J.S. is the author, I wanted him to know I think he has done a great Job : ) If J.S. is not the author, well who ever is, is doing a great Job! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. John Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Central [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry No, not me. I wish I could take credit as he sure has a good sense of humor. Plus, I know one list member who offered a case of beer and free meal at the Tucson Show for who ever it is. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteorites http://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry Hello List, My best guess to the author of Proud Tom, I will not tell, but his are initials J.S. Just a guess but I think I am right! If Old J.S. is the author, I wanted him to know I think he has done a great Job : ) If J.S. is not the author, well who ever is, is doing a great Job! Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Charlie Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]; metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. John Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Group
Hello to all ( nearly ) I have open a new meteorite group where nearly all it invites to participate. Many have received the demand via email, the others will be able to be enrolled visiting the site here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RealMetCollectors/ for subscribe send a email to this address and I see if accept or not the person: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks and Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 I know Jack Schitt! ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names
Those are good Dave, I thought we change the name of the Sikhote-Alin meteorite to Sikhote-Ivan. Also, Something that has been bothering Proud Tom, the IMCA rules, say we have to properly label our meteorites, Proud Tom thinks each Nantan should have a label that states made in china Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:43 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: My Top 10 of classic meteorite names Fred, lol Your post it made me Wonder whether we should run a light hearted 'competition for the best sounding fictitious meteorite name!?' Here are my contributions 'Upshit creek' 'Bond 007' 'South Park Forest' 'Mill-Hill-Billy' C'mon I am sure some of you can do better? Mark F. The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] My Top 10 of classic meteorites for Beginners
Dear Martin, List; I really like the first couple of CLASSIC lists and then it started getting a little more of a my martian favorite is a better idea. Yah, yah, yah. I would prefer to corrupt to Getting started, the Beginners Collection . All three SNC's are not in a beginner collection unless he is a scientist or millionaire! Same with ecrusites, diogenites, or other exotics. Here is my List. It is chosen for education purposes, for cost factor, for beauty, and FOR NUTURING LOVE OF THE HOBBY. 1. Gibeon...great iron, cost effective for larger piece, nice widmanstatten pattern, iron education. 2. Any NWA... to learn fusion crust, cost effective for larger specimen, learn the iron grains principal. Learn of hunting the deserts and where meteorites are easier to spot, geo politics, foreign lands. 3. Nantan...Lets learn rust, Lawrencite, before we get too far financially into meteorites, lets learn to protect them. Very affordable, learn to love the down trodden that fell in the wrong place, fate.. 4.Allende...Lets learn how precious they are, carbonaceous chondrite's are special, and affordable in the Allende, strewnfield education, geo-economics of meteorites in small communities. 5. Canyon Dieblo.This is the crater meteorite, lets learn a little about impacts, impactites, and astrophysics of meteorites, History of mining and property rights of meteorite locations, HISTORY of meteorites is important, this one has history. 6. Any meteorite from one's home state/area that is a local meteorite to say, this is found where I come from... 7. Any meteorite that one has found. Finding ones own meteorite is hard to do but this is an extremely important part of any beginner's collection. Not all meteorites in the Beginners Collection should be easy to bag. Note lucky #7! This one leaves the amateur LOTS of room for optimism to grown in the the hobby, ask lots of questions, a chance to contribute to the world of meteorites. I suppose in retrospect that by the time one finds their first meteorite, that they MAY break out of the beginner collecting catagory. 8. Any meteorite from a famous dealer either past or present, worship those that help the hobby. My First was from Jim Strope, second was from Mike Farmer, third was a Bob Haag pallesite! I was off to a great start! 9. Bragging spot for personal bragger, either large, small, gift from ?, hole in it, venus or odd shapped shikote-alin, lookslike a squirrel, boughtit for a dime, etc. This one goes in the special to me box. Now here one would find a bessy speck of Moon or Mars, or specks of Tagish Lake, or even Park Forest! Remember beginner word, meaning affordable, and probably small, fascinating in nature. 10. Not even a meteorite, FIND A FALLING STAR by H. H. Nininger. and in this slot too, Rocks From Space or any other special book that may or may not bear a signature of a living meteorite person . A to Z that is signed would fit! 11. (What is this)...A nice collection of locally found meteorwrongs for education in what makes a meteorite a meteorite, andnot. I realize this is not an official classic meteorite list but Beginners Collection TO ENRICH THE LOVE OF COLLECTING METEORITES would be more interesting to the beginner. Having been there, and what I found most valuable to bag early list would be the same as classic? Sorry for my corruption of the classic theme. Dave Freeman IMCA #3864 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin and others, Martin, with your list you have captured my thought that started this thread. What classic meteorites are first rate, recommended and available to collectors, and as rocks should remain stable in our lifetime. Mark Bostick, your list list also captured this thought. Other lists were a combination of classics and personal favorites. Another list given by Chicago Steve is, well...unique. Norbert's list is an all-galaxy roster of primo cut/choice materials that do belong on some kind of all time list. What a list it was...I wish they were available to all of us. My first list was written in about 3 minutes...I did not put a lot of thought into it but would only change a few to create my own classic list...meteorites that we all should own. I'll give this list to others one day when they ask...What would you recommend I start my collection with? The classics of course. John PS Maybe I'll make it a list of 20, or 50... Hi - here's my Beginner's Top Ten, because I'm sometimes asked, which meteorites would be suitable for the beginning collector. 1. Mundrabilla (etched) 2. Juancheng 3. Sikhote-Alin 4. Allende 5. Millbillillie 6. A big unclassified NWA 7. DaG 735 8. A meteorite from your home country 9. Vaca Muerta 10. Dho 461 Remarks: 1. Mundrabilla with a proper etching is one of the most beautiful iron
[meteorite-list] Tucson Auctions???
Greetings. I know that this might be a little off topic these days, but I was just wondering, with only 2 months to go till Tucson that I haven`t seen any adds or anything anywhere else about Michael Blood`s Auction or The Macovich [Darrly Pitt] Auction listed anywhere? Shouldn`t we be seeing something really soon about these and also if you possibly wanted to list something in said auctions, would you contact them directly? Thanks. Dave __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group
Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between membersaside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing,of a group which, in the recent past has essentially dedicated itself to advancing the science of meteoritics. Maybe Rosie, and a few like her,were right some months ago whenthey ceased participating. There will always be personal differences among such a diverse group of people. But in my humble opinion, that is no reason to throw the baby outwith the bath wateror to advocate it. The advancement of science has no room for the exclusion of qualified individuals based solely upon personal caprice. It is just ignorant. Have a great week all. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for subscribe send a email to this address and I seeif accept or not the person:
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group
Don't worry Paul. Based on the recent posts against Matteo's views, I doubt he will have many people follow him. So he can have a group all by himself..and that's a good thing! Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between membersaside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing,of a group which, in the recent past has essentially dedicated itself to advancing the science of meteoritics. Maybe Rosie, and a few like her,were right some months ago whenthey ceased participating. There will always be personal differences among such a diverse group of people. But in my humble opinion, that is no reason to throw the baby outwith the bath wateror to advocate it. The advancement of science has no room for the exclusion of qualified individuals based solely upon personal caprice. It is just ignorant. Have a great week all. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for subscribe send a email to this address and I seeif accept or not the person:
[meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group
It is necessary why by now, for guilt of that I know, it has put in turn false voices here on my account, creating a sense of distrust from part of that a once I considered my friends. This group that I have opened collects the true friends, those that deserve my respect. As far as the others, that thanks that personage whom it has ruined all, while for the other anchor the group is opened also they, but under my control in the entrance. Matteo Si è necessario perchè ormai qui, per colpa di qualcuno che so, ha messo in giro voci false sul mio conto, creando un senso di diffidenza da parte di quelli che una volta consideravo miei amici. Questo gruppo che ho aperto raccoglie i veri amici che mi sono stati accanto, quelli che meritano il mio rispetto. Per quanto riguarda gli altri, che ringrazino quel personaggio che ha rovinato tutto, mentre per gli altri ancora il gruppo è aperto anche a loro, sotto mio controllo però nell'entrata. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between members aside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing, of a group which, in the recent past has essentially dedicated itself to advancing the science of meteoritics. Maybe Rosie, and a few like her, were right some months ago when they ceased participating. There will always be personal differences among such a diverse group of people. But in my humble opinion, that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath wateror to advocate it. The advancement of science has no room for the exclusion of qualified individuals based solely upon personal caprice. It is just ignorant. Have a great week all. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for subscribe send a email to this address and I see if accept or not the person: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group
you are in mistake type your good friend --- Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't worry Paul. Based on the recent posts against Matteo's views, I doubt he will have many people follow him. So he can have a group all by himself..and that's a good thing! Jim - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:08 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: [MeteoriteCollectors] New Meteorite Group Good morning Folks, I've remained silent regarding these recent threads until now. I am shaking my head in disbelief. Is all this really necessary Matteo? Personal differences between members aside, I hate to see the disintegration, or attempted fracturing, of a group which, in the recent past has essentially dedicated itself to advancing the science of meteoritics. Maybe Rosie, and a few like her, were right some months ago when they ceased participating. There will always be personal differences among such a diverse group of people. But in my humble opinion, that is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath wateror to advocate it. The advancement of science has no room for the exclusion of qualified individuals based solely upon personal caprice. It is just ignorant. Have a great week all. Best Regards, Paul Martyn In a message dated 12/9/2003 11:46:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for subscribe send a email to this address and I see if accept or not the person: = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BORING !!!
Dear folks, members and friends !!! - especially to everyone I know in person out there in USA, Europe, Asia, Russia, Africa ! X-mas is near - the time to get into peace and freedom please stop all this non-topic conversations I am missing to hear about meteoritics : I heard about a new Shergottite ( NWA 2046 ?? - am not sure), I heard about a recent fall in New Orleans (MIKE ???) I heard about some new lunar finds from Oman (Germany - NORBERT - please tell us about), A third find of Neuschwanstein ? (Dieter - any news ??) A sixth find of Moravka ? Has anyone read this GREAT ARTICLE (MAPS 2003 July No. 7/Vol 38) What about the lherzolithic Shergottite outside Antarctica ? (NWA 1950 - Bruno ?) AND last not least about finally found Kilabo INDIVIDUALS ? (www.austromet.com ) wouldn't that be news we want to hear ? Tell us about this meteoritical news - we (I) want to know the real news - Does not anybody have the courage to get back to the real METEORITICS ? I think there's a BIG lot of news we all heard about a little, but not everyone of this list knows about the real news - come on guys, let us know about the real news. I don't want to read about someone's disputes. Hoping to bring back the list to the real point before year's end, Christian IMCA #2673 Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.austromet.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] New Meteorite Group
Does that mean you will be leaving the Met Central list Matteo? Rob Wesel - Fairies still the smiles and the struck ones - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Collectors [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Collectors Associations [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:18 AM Subject: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] New Meteorite Group Hello to all ( nearly ) I have open a new meteorite group where nearly all it invites to participate. Many have received the demand via email, the others will be able to be enrolled visiting the site here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RealMetCollectors/ for subscribe send a email to this address and I see if accept or not the person: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks and Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/1.XolB/TM -~- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay ADD, sale tonight, 50 items almost all one cent!
Hi again, as usual, my ebay items are almost all started at one cent. Some nice items up tonight, inlcuding a large Gibeon individual started at one cent! $3000.00 piece up for grabs by highest bidder. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2209123712category=3239rd=1 http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ One of my auction sets. And the other below. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Thanks Mike Farmer
Re: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Group
How Mussolini of you.Who would want to associate themselves with you. Why not take a big deep breath and hold it till we all apply to be on your list? Here is a hintyour dirty bathwater is not for drinking. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Collectors [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Collectors Associations [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteoritecentral [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:18 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New Meteorite Group Hello to all ( nearly ) I have open a new meteorite group where nearly all it invites to participate. Many have received the demand via email, the others will be able to be enrolled visiting the site here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RealMetCollectors/ for subscribe send a email to this address and I see if accept or not the person: [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks and Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Petrographic Microscope article/book
Hi List I just received my Nov.-Dec. issue of the Mineralogical Record. Surprisingly it had a supplement included titled "The Petrographic Microscope Evolution of a Mineralogical Research Instrument" by Daniel E. Kile. Anytime the Mineralogical Record produces anything they do it masterfully. This article is no exception. It is full of color photos (108 figures), 98 pages and no outside advertisers. Sections include: Characteristics of the petrographic microscope(pm) Properties observable with the pm Historical development of the pm Manufacturers of the pm Accessories for the pm others References 11 pages This completely covers the subject matter better than any other publication I have ran across. It even includes a photo of a barred olivine crystal from Saratov. They are selling it for only $20 plus $2 s h in the US. They will ship to outside the US just ask for a rate. If you are interested just send me an email and I will get the info for purchasing the book. No, I don't sell it and I don't make anything from sales of the article. Mike Mike JensenBill JensenJensen Meteorites16730 E Ada PLAurora, CO 80017-3137303-337-4361Web Site: Jensen Meteorites
[meteorite-list] a list hosted by matteo?
Sounds pretty grimunless Matteo is really Proud Tom. That would be the greatest gag since Mussolini. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] HUGE NWA METEORITE EBAY SALE
I would like to start by taking this opportunity to thank steve Shoener for creating a ebay meteorite discussion group. The worlds biggest ebay hater has come around and now loves ebay so much that he started a special discussion group. (Sorry, I couldent resist). Anyway, on sunday I got 452 kilos of new NWA meteorites and have been agressively listing on ebay ever since. I have over 150 meteorites listed on ebay right now and I have plans of listing many more for the rest of the week and through the upcoming weekend. This link here should show you all of my meteorite auctions and spare you of having to go through all of the other uninteresting junk that I sell: http://tinyurl.com/yion If this dont work check out my ebay user id AMUNRE Sincerely DEAN BESSEY www.meteoriteshop.com __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] US going back to the moon????
Top 11 reasonsBUSH wants to go to the moon: 11. Even his imagination is 40 years behind. 10. His ranch has even more barren landscapes than those used to film the "moon landings" at LBJ's. 9. Just finished reading "Goodnight, Moon." 8. Halliburton lobbying to "rebuild" it. 7. Running out of places not to find Saddam Hussein, bin Laden, the Anthrax killer, the White House traitor, the Prescription Drug Plan briber... 6. No need to set up free speech zones when he arrives. 5. Couldn't think of a less useful scientific endeavor. 4. Need to find more places to export American jobs. 3. Scientists whom Bush cites to refute global warming also believe the moon is made of crude oil and beer. 2. It's the perfect test for his hydrogen-powered car. 1. It's faster, cheaper and easier than getting out of Iraq. Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BORING !!!
100% agree with you Christian ! Frederic Beroud www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA #2491 - Original Message - From: Ing. Christian ANGER [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:05 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] BORING !!! Dear folks, members and friends !!! - especially to everyone I know in person out there in USA, Europe, Asia, Russia, Africa ! X-mas is near - the time to get into peace and freedom please stop all this non-topic conversations I am missing to hear about meteoritics : I heard about a new Shergottite ( NWA 2046 ?? - am not sure), I heard about a recent fall in New Orleans (MIKE ???) I heard about some new lunar finds from Oman (Germany - NORBERT - please tell us about), A third find of Neuschwanstein ? (Dieter - any news ??) A sixth find of Moravka ? Has anyone read this GREAT ARTICLE (MAPS 2003 July No. 7/Vol 38) What about the lherzolithic Shergottite outside Antarctica ? (NWA 1950 - Bruno ?) AND last not least about finally found Kilabo INDIVIDUALS ? (www.austromet.com ) wouldn't that be news we want to hear ? Tell us about this meteoritical news - we (I) want to know the real news - Does not anybody have the courage to get back to the real METEORITICS ? I think there's a BIG lot of news we all heard about a little, but not everyone of this list knows about the real news - come on guys, let us know about the real news. I don't want to read about someone's disputes. Hoping to bring back the list to the real point before year's end, Christian IMCA #2673 Ing. Christian ANGER Korngasse 6 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg AUSTRIA email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.austromet.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!
Matteo, You could not be more wrong about anything and everything. You have clearly shown that there is no limit to human ignorance and no matter what I will NEVER buy a single thing from you. You have absolutely no credibility with me or most of this list. Why do you not just crawl back into what ever rectum you slid out of. I am personally sick of you...and have permanently added you to my blocked list. - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back! if you like many this joke, send to me a your photo and a build for you a similar Tom Idiot site therefore then you laugh of taste --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It looks like Proud Tom is NOT back. I tried to go to the site and got an error message. It WAS back, but Matteo no like joke and apparently had it shut down. Evidently he feels comfortable pronouncing what is Acceptable To Be Seen and what isn't, and we must all bow to him. Gregory = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Identity of Proud Tom
Hi folks, I have to say, that as much as I hate the venom that we have witnessed onthe metlist, if Proud Tom is the result, then it will all have been worth it! Personally I haven't a clue who is responsible - I'd love to think it was Bernd, but somehow I just can't imagine it, but if it was - wow!!! One day, I hope, I'll find out - but I won't be telling anyone! Good luck to you - sort of a Lone Ranger type of figure, isn't he? Hi Ho Saliva! dave IMCA #0092 ---Original Message--- From: Michael L Blood Date: 12/09/03 19:55:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine Cc: Dave Harris; metlist Subject: Identity of Proud Tom Hi Y'all, Charlie, you may have something here. I also heard Proud Tom is actually Bernd. All that contributing of priceless information got to be just too much, seeing as how most of us are such jerks, he finally let go and gave us all a good laugh at ourselves But, others maintain it is not the honorable Bernd at all, but, instead, of all people, it is Art. Yes, Art, the originator and revered benefactor of this very list. He got so tired of booting fools from the list and dealing with all of us that he just let loose with scathing humor aimed at the most obnoxious of us (he has a BIG article on Michael Farmer being prepared, even now). However, others say it is neither Bernd nor Art, but _ who is really PROUD TOM! Best wishes, Michael on 12/8/03 6:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. John Dave and list, I miss Bernd. Does anyone know if is still on this list? Has all the negative content of recent months finally driven even him away? Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Better to write for yourself and have no public, than to write for the public and have no self. Cyril Connolly -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: - Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm - Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Panoramic view of Meteor Crater: http://www.virtualguidebooks.com/Arizona/GrandCanyonRoute66/MeteorCrater/Met eorCraterRimL.html -- Cool Calendar Clock: http://www.yugop.com/ver3/stuff/03/fla.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites Didgeridoos for sale at: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I am back (test)
I was cut off the list for whatever reason as I was gone over this last week. This is a test. Steve Schoner/ams __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] BORING !!!
Hi Christian I to would like to here more about the new meteorites and stories. This is a great list ! Let's keep it that way. Thanks Sonny
[meteorite-list] 1907 Ash Fall in Nome Alaska not Volcanic(?)
http://www.explorenorth.com/library/weekly/more/bl-nomeash.htm Ash Fall in Nome Related Events Norman Kagan has searched issues of the Nome Nugget (NN) prior to October 21, 1910, and and Nome Gold Digger (GD) of 1907 for articles of possible meteorite strikes or related events, and has compiled the following list. Thanks, Norm! A. Regarding Ash of November 1907 NN, November 25, 1907 - Volcanic ash fell throughout Gold Run country - Nome, Teller, Tin City. The source is unknown but is not nearby - Aleutian Islands possible. GD, November 27, 1907 - Volcano active near Cape Blossom, ash seen in Candle and Nome. NN, November 27, 1907 - Some 280 tons of ash are thought to have fallen on Nome. GD, November 28, 1907 - Theory of meteor ash, not volcano, fell in town - assayed at 30% iron GD, December 5, 1907 - Mail carrier Erik Johnson reports hard trip owing to meteoric dust over an inch thick covering the ice of Norton Bay. NN, December 6, 1907 - Ash 1 inch thick fell on Ear Mountain between Nov. 24 and 25; strong winds were blowing from Siberia. NN, December 7, 1907 - Arthur Gibson of the Nome Weather Bureau says the ash is not volcanic but meteoric as it has a high iron content. He believes the Andromedes meteors of Nov 23 and 24 caused the fall. He has sent a sample to Washington for analysis. NN, January 4, 1908 - Volcanic ash fell over all of Innoko district, says letter. NN, January 21, 1908 - Arthur Gibson has received four samples of ash from other Seward Peninsula areas; all differ in color and grain size, sent for testing. NN, March 23, 1908 - A. Gibson received acknowledgement of ash in Washington, D.C. NN, August 28, 1908 - Volcanic ash, says U.S. Geological Dept. analysis NN, Sept 4, 1908 - Hobson of Hobson's Landing, Kuskokwin says November ash was due to volcano some sixty miles north of his place, witnessed eruption. NN, Sept 9, 1908 - Alfred Brooks, local US Geological Dept. man, says ash came from Siberia or the Aleutian Islands. B. Events ca. June 30, 1908 NN, June 30, 1908 - 20,000 acres burning between Kokrines and Louden on Yukon River. - Tundra fires raging at Jess Creek, and a Candle throughout Seward Peninsula. NN, July 1, 1908 - Huge fires along Yukon River, worst ever, Penny River, Jess Creek and Fox River the past 3 days. Sam Simel's Anvik store destroyed. NN, July 2, 1908 - Letter from eastern Siberian coast reports strange winter weather: cold and disagreeable from 30 to 50 below zero, strong winds from all directions, only two days in February when miners could work. - Tundra fires burn in Kougarak District, Solomon Lake and Penny River. Fires also on Koyuk River, Fish River and east of Norton Sound. NN, July 3, 1908 - Rainfall extinguishes tundra fires above Penny River, Sunset Creek and Solomon Lake. NN, July 4, 1908 - Tundra fires persist at Unalakleet. C. Other News (Nome received ship and telegraphic reports, wireless after 1910) NN, July 13, 1908 (Philadelphia - July 11) Dutch Steamer Ocean, Capt. Benkert reports near hit of large meteor some 200 miles east of Philadelphia. Tremendous wave swept ship, cloud of noxious gas forced men below decks, peculiar brown dust settled aboard. Meteor shower continued for several minutes, and sea was phosphorescent to horizon. This story seems to follow another in which a ship was wrecked by a meteor. NN, Aug 24, 1908 (Salina, Kansas - Aug 23): Salina shaken by nearby meteor strike. NN, Nov 21, 1908 (Salina, Kansas - Nov 21): A large meteor fell 3 miles north of Ellsworth last night - exploded on impact, lit up area for 20 minutes. GD, July 30, 1909 (Dawson, Yukon - July 10): Meteorite found on #7 Big Skookum Gulch, off Bonanza Creek. It weighed 35 lbs, was dense and smooth, dug out from long ago. Meteorites in the Circumpolar North: http://www.explorenorth.com/library/weekly/aa060400a.htm All about Nome, Alaska: http://www.explorenorth.com/library/communities/alaska/nomeindex.html Last Updated on 12/9/2003 at 4:03:14 P.M. (Yukon Time) __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dirty laundry
I have to believe most of us don't know Jack. JD Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello Jim Strope! You have the same initials as the guy I was thinking of but it is not you! I tried to think if there was anyone else with the initials JS and forgot about you, sorry : 0 I know Jack Schitt! ;-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [Fwd: Thank You for Your Report (SafeHarbor)
Dear Lists; There Baacck! Please report any ebay fake emails asking for infomation to SafeHarbor for further investigation. Best, Dave Freeman Original Message Subject: Thank You for Your Report (SafeHarbor) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 16:26:17 -0800 From: eBay SPAMMED Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: eBay SPAMMED Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for taking the time to write us. We take reports of spam from our community members seriously and will investigate your report as soon as possible. eBay's SafeHarbor Department usually reviews all reports of spam within 24 hours. Please keep in mind that the action taken based on your report is confidential. For privacy reasons, we will not be able to keep you informed of any developments; however, we pledge to quickly examine your report and apply our guidelines fairly. These guidelines may include a warning, a temporary suspension, or an indefinite suspension. We will contact you once our investigation is complete or if we need more information. In order for us to take action on this report we require an email with the full header. If you did not include the header, please resubmit your report and include this information. You can review what a header is and how to locate it at the following web address: http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/information.html If you have trouble finding the email header, we suggest that you go to the following link, which contains information on how to obtain headers for many email services: http://spamcop.net/fom-serve/cache/19.html Now that this individual has contacted you, you may want to consider adding their email address to your blocked list and be sure to take advantage of any junk email filters provided by your email program. Please note that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address is reserved for reporting Spam issues only. If you have any questions or concerns that fall under a different area, please contact us by selecting the subject line specific to your concern through the webform located at the following web page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/basics/select-RS.html If you would like more information regarding Safe Harbor policies, please visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/investigates.html We appreciate your concerns and we thank you for helping to keep eBay a safe and reputable forum in which to conduct business. IMPORTANT **Please do not respond to this email as your reply will not be received. Regards, eBay SafeHarbor Team __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Times Calvin
Can Calvin of Calvin's Reflections please contact me. Thanks. Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Belated Weekly invitation to eBayMeteorites.
Hello all, Due to the death of my mother last week, I was not able to post the weekly invite this last Sunday. So here it is. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ Eight new members were welcomed bringing the listing to 50. The unstated purpose of this is to present a format for authentic meteorites by dealers and collectors, and with the now stated purpose of relieving the MetList of numerous eBay AD so that the subjects will be primarily meteorites rather than auctions of such. Not sure if it will work, as it is still in in its inception. There are other groups such as meteoritecollectors but this group is for auctions only, unnecessary debate deleted. Check it out Steve Schoner/ams __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Saw One Fireball
That was my wife's wallet re-entering the atmosphere after her out of this world spending spree for Xmas! Mark - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 8:11 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Saw One Fireball Well, I finally got to see a small fireball during twilight tonight at 5:26 PST. In the NE Quad about 15 deg. above the horizon and streaking due East. After it entered the atmosphere, it lasted for about 3 seconds and I saw a few particles fall off and trail behind. Bright green and white glow. It extingquished about 5 degrees above the horizon. Location, Barstow, CA. Really nice sight that was. John
Re: [meteorite-list] US going back to the moon????
Oh no not another Democrat! When you all gonna quit SNIVELLING and find a real candidate for the election? Look at it as another reason for you all to tax and spend. At least Al Gore finally got out from under the bed he climbed under on 9/11now if he only knew the difference between Leiberman and Dean. The moon is a place to startMaybe when we get there we will be able to find a Democrat to run for President. Mark M. - Original Message - From: Randy Mils To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] US going back to the moon Top 11 reasonsBUSH wants to go to the moon: 11. Even his imagination is 40 years behind. 10. His ranch has even more barren landscapes than those used to film the "moon landings" at LBJ's. 9. Just finished reading "Goodnight, Moon." 8. Halliburton lobbying to "rebuild" it. 7. Running out of places not to find Saddam Hussein, bin Laden, the Anthrax killer, the White House traitor, the Prescription Drug Plan briber... 6. No need to set up free speech zones when he arrives. 5. Couldn't think of a less useful scientific endeavor. 4. Need to find more places to export American jobs. 3. Scientists whom Bush cites to refute global warming also believe the moon is made of crude oil and beer. 2. It's the perfect test for his hydrogen-powered car. 1. It's faster, cheaper and easier than getting out of Iraq. Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] top 10 members of the matteo met-list
1. Sponge Bob. Square pants are optional. He can search the ocean floor. 2. That Bin what's his face guy. He must have a lot of desert connections. 3. Johhny Depp. That doesn't require much imagination. 4. Pee Wee Herman. Press secretary. 5. Fidel Castro. How many Cuban meteorites have been classified? 6. Hal from 2000 Space Odessy and Chubakka. Important men need bodyguards. 7. Liza Minnelli, to keep order. 8. Charro. Personal translator. 9. Martha Stewart. Treasurer. 10. Bullwinkle T. Moose. Mr. Know it all. Second in command of course. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom is Back!
Please take my name off of the list. These senseless debates could have easily taken place off list. Somebody e-mail me when it is a good time to subscribe again (i.e. when meteorites and tektites are the predominant subject). It's time to hit the eject button. Randy in N.O.
[meteorite-list] Is this a meteorite or just a wierd rock? foundary plug]
Hello David, For all my experience in researching old mines and old furnaces, it is trough plug from a foundry operation. Some foundries, especially older ones that didn't have overhead cranes and large crucibles have channels in the floor from the furnace to a bank(tree) of molds. The molten metal was released into any of several brick, sand, or clay-lined channels at the the tapping hearth and flowed out into the castting floor/ house/ room to the ingot molds (pigs)*. Slag was drawn off first. Not to be confused with furnice plugs or taps which were ceramic clay and broken to release the molten slag or metal, these plugs stemmed from an overflow in the channel and had to be cleared when cooled. If they graded in they went back into the next charge if they graded out they were tossed or sold to shipping lines to be used as ballast on ships. This is about the right width and shape in cross section for a typical channel although it could have been from a pig which graded out. The top to bottom zoning suggests a plug. The reason it looks like a loaf of bread on top is that metal tends to be highly cohesive and has a convex(rounded) meniscus. In case anyone ever runs across metal cow patties-- these are another foundry artifact and are splash forms which actually splattered when being poured. I don't remember what they were nicknamed. I frequently find them in old railroad right of ways. Your item is possibly high in zinc, as there is little oxidation, and/or pot metal, which is a low grade assemblage of whatever came into the reclamation pile that month, or slag residue. Slag is a generic term but usually contains more silica/ glass than metal-usually no free metal. This section appears to be more metal than slag/glass. 99% certain it is not a meteorite and it would take a long time to point out all the reason's why. Keep looking at photos enough and it will make more sense. If you read the descriptions now in use as to what is or isn't a meteorite just about anything can look like a meteorite. At least photos can help screen some items. Regards, Elton * Tradition says the the term pig came from the arrangement of the ingot molds off the channel, which reminded the smelters of a sow pig nursing a litter and is the origin of the term pig iron. David Hathaway wrote: I found this out of place rock in the South-Eastern Oregon desert a couple months ago. It is very heavy and has an extremely weak but present attraction to magnet. It doesn't look like any of the meteorites I've seen but the magnetic attraction and the rounded surface crust make me wonder. What do you think? www.peak.org/~dhathaway/maybe.htm http://www.peak.org/%7Edhathaway/maybe.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Identity of Proud Tom
Hey All, Like I said, I think I know who it is. A list member posted this on Sat, 06 Sep 2003 21:53:48 -0500; That is a great theory Tom. Is it all your own work? You should be very Proud. Talking of IQ's here is a cool IQ test that everyone can try out. Re-arrange the following words to make a sentence: AN IS TOM ASS On the Proud Tom site the author wrote; Proud Tom's Daily Meteorite IQ Challenge How many different words can you make out of the letters T-O-M? I think the two authors are one and the same, but I could be wrong! Am I wrong J. S. ? Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier Yea, that's right, The proudest member of the IMCA # 6168 - Original Message - From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: metlist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Identity of Proud Tom Hi folks, I have to say, that as much as I hate the venom that we have witnessed onthe metlist, if Proud Tom is the result, then it will all have been worth it! Personally I haven't a clue who is responsible - I'd love to think it was Bernd, but somehow I just can't imagine it, but if it was - wow!!! One day, I hope, I'll find out - but I won't be telling anyone! Good luck to you - sort of a Lone Ranger type of figure, isn't he? Hi Ho Saliva! dave IMCA #0092 ---Original Message--- From: Michael L Blood Date: 12/09/03 19:55:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Charlie Devine Cc: Dave Harris; metlist Subject: Identity of Proud Tom Hi Y'all, Charlie, you may have something here. I also heard Proud Tom is actually Bernd. All that contributing of priceless information got to be just too much, seeing as how most of us are such jerks, he finally let go and gave us all a good laugh at ourselves But, others maintain it is not the honorable Bernd at all, but, instead, of all people, it is Art. Yes, Art, the originator and revered benefactor of this very list. He got so tired of booting fools from the list and dealing with all of us that he just let loose with scathing humor aimed at the most obnoxious of us (he has a BIG article on Michael Farmer being prepared, even now). However, others say it is neither Bernd nor Art, but _ who is really PROUD TOM! Best wishes, Michael on 12/8/03 6:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie and others, Maybe Bernd is busy being Proud Tom? Nah, he is far too consumed being a school teacher. Or maybe it is a devilish dealer out to drive Matteo mad, crazy, and loco at the same time? Let's see who has not been picked on? Mike Farmer...is it you? Nah...you are too busy chasing rocks from space. Who else could it be??? Yousef...is that you out there? You kidder you...Nah, he is too busy finding truck loads of lunar breccias and new chondrites. Who could it be?? This Proud Tom is tricky like a fox but considered a dog to many who are upset. He is clever to a lot of us who enjoy good humor, but he is a weasel to a few of those who have been satired. His identity feels close to many of us...but yet he stays aloof. I like it. The beat does go on...let's relax and wait for Proud Tom 3. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
