RE: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars?
Rosie, Fantastic, and glad you replied. I was in Utah last year, and toured the Zion national park as well as Bryce and Escelante in the staircase. If you take the lower trails in Zion, you come across giant pieces of sandstone that have fallen down from the top peaks that are loaded with these Moqui marbles. I even collected some (probably not legally). They are embedded in the sandstone and weather out in giant surface areas that are completely pebbled with these spherules. Amazing... and there are places on the web which talk about these and suggest that they are related to a probable impact area in Escalante (where most are said to have been found) ... I get that from researching what you just posted. Thanks for the insight! I have pictures of the surface of the sandstone slabs that are pebbled with these if anyone is interested. Thanks - CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rosemary Hackney Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 8:48 PM To: Charles Viau; 'Bjørn Sørheim'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars? Moqui marbles Rosie - Original Message - From: Charles Viau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Bjørn Sørheim' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 4:53 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars? Those spheres are really something. I am in the camp of them falling into the sediment along with ash. Low gravity ejection of molten volcanic material could be a possibility but I like a tektite type of process from an impact, which seems the likely suspect in the perfect spherical shape, and minimal staining of the surrounding rock. An incoming bolide with an air burst could probably be an answer but what are the odds of landing on such a strewnfield. Any concretion I have ever seen left an irregular spherical shell of stained rock around it, and it does not look like this is the case here (but what the hell do I know about how Mars would deal with such processes). The analysis of the spheres themselves should tell the whole story. Very exciting stuff. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjørn Sørheim Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 5:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What are those blueberries on Mars? Mark, It certainly is the science team at JPL's idea that the 'round guys' are embedded in the outcrop. For instance Dr. Squyres were talking about wheter they could see the layers curving above or below the balls, or wheter it is possible to see if the balls have made a small dent in the layering when they, possibly, fell down from above. Also the closeup pictures suggest the balls are firmly embedded in there. The big question is how did they all get so perfectly round, and what kind of geologic process would produce such a weird 'bedrock'. Regards, Bjørn Sørheim At 15:40 13.02.04 -0500, you wrote: Hello List, I guess you all have seen those pictures coming from Mars at the the Meridiani Planum/Opportunity site. Embedded in, and eroding out of the bedrock in the sidewall of the 20 m crater where Opportunity is located, are those 5mm perfect spherical stones. Regards, Bjørn Sørheim Curious stuff, and this was my initial reaction, too. But, on closer examination, I remain unconvinced these spherules are actually weathering out of the exposed bedrock. It looks to me as though they're everywhere, including on and in the soil above the outcrop. Assuming these things gradually migrate downslope, I don't suppose it is impossible for some of them to lodge in the cracks and bedding planes of the exposed rock. Stay tuned ... Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] first round of tucson pictures
Good morning list.I just uploaded my first set of pictures of the tucson show on my website.You can view them on my 1st tucson page.Let me know what you think.There will be 2 more pages to come.Have a great weekend all. steve arnold,chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nininger quoted newspaper + Oriented Sikhote
Paper: Nevada State Journal City: Reno, Nevada Date: Thursday, June 26, 1947 Page: 1 Meteorite Hits Siberia, Forms 30 Big Craters FLAGSTAFF, Ariz., June 25 (U.P.) - Meteorite, estimated to weigh several tons, fell near Vladivostock, Siberia, Feb. 12, Dr. H. H. Nininger, Director of the American Meteorite Museum near here, was notified today by the meteorite committee of the Russian Academy of Sciences at Moscow. The Russians advised Dr. Nininger that 30 craters were formed by the blazing visitor from the heavens, the largest of which measured 80 feet in diameter and 28 feet in depth. A "considerable" amount of forest was destroyed, the Russians said. Hello List, Today's Sikhote article quotes Nininger, and while I think I do have a few more papers, and can could share photos of Sikhotes in my collection till every one blocked me, this will be the last installment in my little tribute to Sikhote. The Nininger collection of meteorites was published in 1950, early in this man's career. Interesting to note is at the time it notes no Sikhote meteorite in his collection. The cold war of course made it difficult for Western and Eastern scientist to exchange specimens and ideals. Today's Sikhote photo is a 89g oriented Sikhote I purchased from Jim Strope. Many of my oriented Sikhotes have come from Jim. My favorite oriented Sikhote I got from Jim, it is a 5-6g very very flat oriented meteorite that fell like a leaf. Sadly, he went into hiding over a year ago and has not been seen since. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colsikhoteoriented89g.html Jason Utas, son of Peter Utas, or as someone labeled them "LAFather and Son",had a really cool cratered Sikhote with a bb sized crater on one side (in Tucson). I just tried to find Bob Vernish's e-mail to the list with the Sikhote crater articles but could not find them in the archives...perhaps someone else can. One would think that these little craters would be more common then they are. Perhaps they weather off fairly fast? I suggest everyone to look over their Sikhotes closely, I found no cratersin mine:-(. The Utas, I should note, are two of this hobbies friendliest hunter/collectors, and I'm waiting for you two to invite me on your next hunt;^) Thank you to the list members that sent me photos of your Sikhotes. While I would have rather seen this be a group thing, it is easy to understand why more and more of the old guys are being quiet. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] first round of tucson pictures
Steve, These are the best/most interesting photos, of the Tucson personalities! Thanks, ken Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Good morning list.I just uploaded my first set of pictures of the tucson show on my website.You can view them on my 1st tucson page.Let me know what you think.There will be 2 more pages to come.Have a great weekend all. steve arnold,chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] first round of tucson pictures
Steve, I agree with Ken! Excellent photos... when do we get to see more? It was great seeing you in Tucson - however, like most interactions there, our connection was far too brief - sorry we didn't get to hang for 20 or 30 minutes of relaxed shooting the breeze time. Let's make it happen next year - or, will you be in Denver? In any event, we DO want to see more of your photos!!! Good on ya, Michael on 2/14/04 9:17 AM, magellon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, These are the best/most interesting photos, of the Tucson personalities! Thanks, ken Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Good morning list.I just uploaded my first set of pictures of the tucson show on my website.You can view them on my 1st tucson page.Let me know what you think.There will be 2 more pages to come.Have a great weekend all. steve arnold,chicago = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- When Jesus said Love your enemies I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- For perspective, try THIS: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Auction question
Greetings all, I will soon have an auction report for everyone interested. However, my question for today is: Does anyone know anything about the meteorite poster??? It was sold at auction to an absentee bidder, but was not among the other items won by absentee bidders and disappeared from the auction room during clean up. (BTW, thanks to all the gentle friends who volunteered to help clean up at the end!). I am sure someone rescued it from being thrown away. Can you contact me so I can get it to the buyer? Thanks, Michael -- When Jesus said Love your enemies I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- For perspective, try THIS: http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] Website still down
Title: Nachricht As I said before: I offer free hosting to the IMCA website on my dedicated server, the same that runs the Worldofmeteorites website. Someone just has to take advantage of that and contac me. Bernhard -Original Message-From: magellon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 9:41 PMTo: MARK BOSTICKCc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [meteoritecollectorsassociation] Website still downThere has been much more work at getting the site back up as there was getting it going in the first place. If so, why is it not back up? All I can say, and I'm sure Rhett will agree, is do NOT chose Yahoo as a web site provider. The next few days should prove very crucial. I'm sure you'll be hearing some news soon. Best, ken MARK BOSTICK wrote: Any work at getting the IMCA website back up?Mark Bostickwww.meteoritearticles.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson Show and First Impressions
Additional comments and corrections to my list. Washington Rob is actually Oregon Rob Gujba Eric should be Gubja Erich I think Maria Maria should actually be Marie Marie (Nelson) Lazer Stan can also be Laser Stan...will answer to both. Eucrite Shultz is correct...once went by Carbonaceous Shultz I posted LA Dad and Son...will go by LA Father and Son as Mark posted The Oakland Madman is Mike Martinez for those who don't know him I omitted a few I met up with whose names just slipped my mind with the last post. They are: Article Mark...temporarily went by Caustic Mark while in Tucson Sahara Overland Adam Carolina John (Sinclair) There we others whose names escape me. Maybe when I see the IMCA list again someday...I'll then remember them. People there whom I missed meeting included: Aromatic Michael from NM Nantan Bill Doctor Nick Matt SPADE from Colorado Magellon the adventurer Ken Well that is it for now...maybe a few of my Tucson pics will make it to someone's site soon. I'll let you know. Later, John Hello all, Well I'm back home and back to my real life again. Going the Tucson was great medicine for a January I want to forget. Health is everything I learned last month, and making new friends in one's hobby interests is what I learned this month. I could write a bunch of run-ons and repeat statements that would truly stir the imagination to those who were not there. Instead I'll make a quick attempt to create my first list of people with new or known names for many I met up with. I will probably miss many I'm sure but I assure you it was not intentional. I only have a few minutes to write this so here it goes off the top of my bald head. I met up with... The Hoola Hupe's The Meteorite Man Tucson Geoff Arizona Keith Mexico Doug Long Island Geoff Arkansas Steve The Oakland Madman West Virginia Jim I'll go anywhere Mike Army Eric The comedy team of Gwilliam and Holmes The Reed Brothers English Rob The Shark...beware Ontario Dean Mohave Wu Lazer Stan Hula-girl Tracy Maria Maria Bloody Mike Holbrook Dave The Giant Brothers CHICAGO STEVE Booty Bruce Searching Jackson Bob and Rob Findem Eucrite Shultz Auction Al Out Bid-em Terry Gubja Eric ET Marvin the Cowboy Lherzolite Bruno Argentina Ed List Master Fred and Fred The Carions Times 2 Chass-ag-nee Ann LA Dad and Son Know's his stuff Weir Washington Rob Illinois Jason and Saving the best for last Gold Basin Twink and Jim Rocks from Space Richard and Dorothy what a trip it was!! from Gabbro John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] space slag
Check out the email that the Space Slag freak emailed me. I feel for the scientists that put up with this garbage. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:25 PM Thankyou for your expert opinion. The MasFrank Meteorite Spaceslag is based on science, research, and fact, using the same test parameters as your meteorites. Your opinion is flawed, you mock the same science that identifies all meteoritic material. Are you saying therefore your meteorites are shit as well? You are a meteorite treasure hunter and fortune seeker, all the same lot, jumping country to country robbing its national treasures, paying off nomads with beads and trinkets for lunar and martian meteorites. YOu then scurry home to the USA for testing using the same test parameters as the MasFrank Meteorite, then flaunt your meteorite booty on your website for thousands of dollars per gram. I know who and what you are, your opinion to me, is worthless. Thankyou. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] space slag
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out the email that the "Space Slag" freak emailed me. You should actually feel a little slighted, Mike - he omitted his usual "I'll see you in court, sir!" Verbal email-jousting with this guyis recommended onlyif you're one of those people who canjust "enjoy the ride" with someone who lives in aparallel universeunknown to modern science.He doesn't just live in LooneyTown, he's the MAYOR, I think. (But he's up for re-election soon, and Matteo's thinking of running, I hear. ;-) GregoryJ. Gregory Wilson2118 Wilshire Blvd. #918Santa Monica, CA 90403
[meteorite-list] AD: Schlierenband Chingas Halfprice Low-tkw-Lunar
Hola list, as my collectors liked so much my Chingas with schlieren bands last time, I decided to give a note even to this list. I listed my two last slices, one on US-ebay, one in German ebay ending in less than a day. You can bid without problems from US-ebay on my german auctions using the links there: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItemsuserid=pardelmopsinclude=0since=-1sort=3rows=50 Both are still at an affordable level. Another noteworthy auction I just listed. Dhofar 310, a lunaite with a small tkw of only 10.8g - the slice has a weight of 0.352g - thus quite a large sample. I set a startprice 50-40% below the price, the finder himself is selling Dho310 (some of you saw him in Tucson) - and the Buy-It-Now is only slightly higher. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2225815658 If the link is destroyed through formatting, voil the item numbers: 2225815658 2224949770 3273022118 Thanks for the attention. Martin A, Munich, Bavaria!!! PS: Thanks Steve for the great pictures for all of us who had to stay at home. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - For sale/trade: New (first?) CK 5/6 !
Dear list, For sale is a 26.8 g full slice of the new CK 5/6. It was classified by A. Greshake (MNB): see: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ NWA 3081 (will be published in the next MB): Morocco Found winter 2002/2003 Carbonaceous chondrite (CK5/6) A single stone of 207.9 g was found in winter 2002/2003 by an anonymous finder in the Occidental Saharan desert and purchased in 2003. Classification and mineralogy (A. Greshake, MNB): exhibits fine-grained texture with strongly recrystallized matrix dominating over rare chondrules and mineral fragments; feldspar is abundant in the matrix; olivine, Fa33.2, feldspar, An22.3-73.3; contains Cr-rich magnetite and minor augite; oxygen isotopic composition (R. Clayton and T. Mayeda, UChi): d17O = -3.69, d18O = +0.64, D17O = -4.02; low degree of shock; strong degree of weathering. Specimens: main mass with anonymous finder; type specimen 25.9 g plus one polished thin section MNB. If you're interested, please make offers until February 20, 2004. (Note: DaG 275 (CK4/5) is priced at 110$/g). If you have a nice historic (European) fall (with museum number and/or original label) - I might be interested in a trade. Thank you for your time. Peter Marmet
Re: [meteorite-list] space slag
As they say, figures don't lie, but liars (and wishful thinkers) do figure. Sounds like the Frass meteorite, revisted. Even the name, MasFrank, sounds similar. And the tactics of getting politicians on board... Cheers, Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tessera Main Mass Photos
Hello List, The following is a link to the main mass of "Terrera". While I do not have any opinion on the meteorite, I have received a request to view images of the meteorite. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/coltessera.htmlArticle Mark..:^)
Re: [meteorite-list] space slag
Good evening Folks, Not to trivialize the tremendously important scientific discovery of million year old cosmic mining slag(dare I say 10 million year old slag?)..but the thought occurs to me...perhaps we should introduce the finder of the "slag" to the now, near-infamous, finder of theFrass meteorite. Think of the advances in meteoritics that would follow. Just a thought. Best Regards, Paul In a message dated 2/14/2004 5:40:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Check out the email that the "Space Slag" freak emailed me.I feel for the scientists that put up with this garbage.Mike Farmer
RE: [meteorite-list] space slag
As George Carlin said so eloquently: The cheese fell off of his cracker a long time ago... CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Farmer Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] space slag Check out the email that the Space Slag freak emailed me. I feel for the scientists that put up with this garbage. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 3:25 PM Thankyou for your expert opinion. The MasFrank Meteorite Spaceslag is based on science, research, and fact, using the same test parameters as your meteorites. Your opinion is flawed, you mock the same science that identifies all meteoritic material. Are you saying therefore your meteorites are shit as well? You are a meteorite treasure hunter and fortune seeker, all the same lot, jumping country to country robbing its national treasures, paying off nomads with beads and trinkets for lunar and martian meteorites. YOu then scurry home to the USA for testing using the same test parameters as the MasFrank Meteorite, then flaunt your meteorite booty on your website for thousands of dollars per gram. I know who and what you are, your opinion to me, is worthless. Thankyou. This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson pictures reports
Thanks to Steve, Keith, Mark and everyone else who has posted reports and photos of Tucson. Particularly appreciated by those of us who live too far away to get to Tucson (in my case, Australia) - maybe oneday! Also, as I am a relative newcomer to the meteorite collecting field, it is good to be able to put faces to the names of those I have only had email correspondence with or only know by reputation. Look forward to seeing more Richard Michael L Blood wrote: Steve, I agree with Ken! Excellent photos... when do we get to see more? It was great seeing you in Tucson - however, like most interactions there, our connection was far too brief - sorry we didn't get to hang for 20 or 30 minutes of relaxed shooting the breeze time. Let's make it happen next year - or, will you be in Denver? In any event, we DO want to see more of your photos!!! Good on ya, Michael on 2/14/04 9:17 AM, magellon at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, These are the best/most interesting photos, of the Tucson personalities! Thanks, ken __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tessera
Hello List, While I will try to remain neutral on the meteorite itself, I have gotten many e-mails and since there is interest. I have explored the subject of this meteorite a little further. If anyone feels I have left anything out let me know. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/coltessera.html I expect to do another update before this time tomorrow. Mark BostickPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] AD; small Holbrook for trade or sale.
Hello List, I have a real nice 2.4g 97-98% crusted Holbrook individual that is just not the right shape for my mini collection so I thought I would offer it for trade to my friends on the list. I will sell it, but I always prefer trading. : ) I am on the hunt for nice looking individuals. Pics are available. Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA #6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
