Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite

2004-09-05 Thread Michael L Blood
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on 9/4/04 10:52 AM, Adam Hupe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Mike,
 
 We sell just about every classification under the sun including L6s so I
 have no idea what you are talking about.  Our primary focus has always been
 rare classifications including a monumental planetary find we will be
 announcing next week.  Every classified stone we sell we do our best to
 report accurately including TKWs, something you have a serious problem with
 which will be public knowledge soon enough and not because of us, you can
 blame yourself for this one.  Mike just keep digging a deeper hole for
 yourself and we will soon have a Mike-be-gone-sale.
 
 All the best,
 
 Adam
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite
 
 
 Well Adam, people are bored of reading your pontificating emails every
 week,
 about this scintific discovery or that strange thing in every meteorite
 you
 have ever owned.
 Anyone notice how every ordinary chondrite Adam has for sale is the
 rarest,
 strangest, has the only this or that etc?
 How come you dont get any normal L6 chondrites? All of yours seem to have
 something no other has, and when anyone posts one that does, you question
 it.
 I have to read all of your bullshit even non-meteorite related, Adam, and
 usually I keep my mouth shut, so do the same for me thank you.
 Mike Farmer
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 10:22 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite
 
 
 Dear List,
 
 I am getting very bored reading about non-meteoritic things such as
 politics
 which do not belong on the List.  A great deal of List members could
 care
 less since they do not live in the US.  To get back on the subject of
 meteorites here is an image of an oriented stone.  It is not magnetic so
 I
 was very tempted to cut it. I held off in favor of cutting a core from
 it
 for study.  I just hate to damage a specimen like this.
 
 Trailing edge showing lip-over:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented1.jpg
 
 Leading edge:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented2.jpg
 
 Hope you enjoyed the images,
 
 
 Adam Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 Team LunarRock
 IMCA 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Denver Show

2004-09-05 Thread DNAndrews

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[meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite and more for your WE.

2004-09-05 Thread Michel Franco
Dear List,

I have added a page about one oriented meteorite. It looks like Christian 's
but is smaller.
www.caillou-noir.com/Oriented.htm

Also look at some pages i've added recently:

www.caillou-noir.com/Molay.htm
www.caillou-noir.com/oulteggit.htm

FYE only, I am not desperate to sell them unless I receive a significant
offer.

More to come...

Best regards.

Michel FRANCO
Caillou Noir www.caillou-noir.com
BP 16, 100 Chemin des Campènes
74400 Les Praz de Chamonix FRANCE
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[meteorite-list] Denver Show

2004-09-05 Thread Chauncey Walden
Ronnie, who will be in the International Room at the Main Show, has just 
let me know that he will have a large quantity of Gibeon spheres, cubes, 
slices, and individuals. He has some killer individuals in the 4 to 8 
kilo range, including the cat, the crocodile, and the rhino. He'll 
also have photos of a 60 plus kilo discus.
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[meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody

Dear List and Mike Farmer,
 I have followed this list for years, via the message archives. I have always tended to side with Mr. Farmer during his rants, which have been occurring more frequently. I am totally disgusted that Farmer would use this list to spew his hatred of a man that the majority of Americans support. Mike, you say your sales are off by over 30% from last year, and you want to blame President Bush? Look in the mirror buddy. Your ever increasing anti-social borderline psychotic behavior is to blame, NOT President Bush. Evidently, your judgment is as bad as your spelling when it comes to being a business man. Way to go, Mike, alienate over half of the collectors because you think you are some type of leader in the meteorite community and they will followyour warped and uniformed political view. It was great to see that Matt Morgan's business has been up. Perhaps you should take a hint and l
 earn to keep your mouth shut. Mike, you will never get one red cent from me. I won't contribute to pay for your plane tickets to New York to march with your filthy brethren. You are nothing more then an American version of Matteo, and, hopefully, your days on this list are numbered.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite and more foryour WE.

2004-09-05 Thread Meteoryt.net
 www.caillou-noir.com/oulteggit.htm

LOL
This rumuruti will be the one who have the most different NWA numbers and
different classifications from all rumuruti ever found.
this  R3-5-6
NWA1906 R4
NWA2289 R3-6
one more in classification

funny.

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[meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites

2004-09-05 Thread Francis Graham
Dear List:
  One of the ironic things about Mike Farmer's
exchange is this: here we are in the 21st century and
the only way to get new moon rocks is for people like
Mike Farmer to collect them in the desert.  Should we
not have research missions to the moon by now? While
G.W.B. has made some talk about this, what is being
funded? 
   The Chronicle of Higher Education has deemed GW
Bush's administration one of the most anti-science
administrations around. Much of his core constituency
denies Darwinian evolution and modern cosmology, for
example. While the latest batch of planetary probes
(Cassini, the Mars Rovers, Galileo) have produced a
treasure-trove of information, those initiatives began
in prior administrations. 
   I post to Farmer's defense, and on-topic: I think
we can do better in an administration when it comes to
promoting scientific progress in the planetary
sciences, and many other sciences.  
   I will probably vote for Kerry.
   Just my two cents. And it's topic-relevant, so no
apologizies for this single, humble American citizen's
opinion. I know other planetary scientists have
differing opinions, and that's OK. 
   
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Re: [meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Thank you Francis, there are thousands of arguments against Bush, and
thousands for him. It is up to every American to vote this year, it is
critical on either side, because even though Martin posted the majority of
Americans support Bush, the last 6 months poll numbers blow that out of the
water.
This will be the closest presidential race in history. So every vote counts,
whichever side you are on, and anyone who does not vote, should keep their
mouths shut.
As a man who travels every month to other parts of the world, (something the
Bush administration has made extremely difficult for Americans) I see the
reality, the hatred that the rest of the world has for us. You would think
by watching Fox news, that the world supports us, you would be wrong. I feel
like we will soon be living in a prison, trying to protect ourselves from
the freedom haters. What a crock of shit.

Watch this hilarious (but oh so true) flash video. It cracks me up.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2004/07/07_201.swf
I also think that the rest of the world is watching this election more than
ever. I was in Australia only a 2 weeks ago and all anyone wanted to know
was how the election was going.

Michael Farmer
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:30 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites


 Dear List:
   One of the ironic things about Mike Farmer's
 exchange is this: here we are in the 21st century and
 the only way to get new moon rocks is for people like
 Mike Farmer to collect them in the desert.  Should we
 not have research missions to the moon by now? While
 G.W.B. has made some talk about this, what is being
 funded?
The Chronicle of Higher Education has deemed GW
 Bush's administration one of the most anti-science
 administrations around. Much of his core constituency
 denies Darwinian evolution and modern cosmology, for
 example. While the latest batch of planetary probes
 (Cassini, the Mars Rovers, Galileo) have produced a
 treasure-trove of information, those initiatives began
 in prior administrations.
I post to Farmer's defense, and on-topic: I think
 we can do better in an administration when it comes to
 promoting scientific progress in the planetary
 sciences, and many other sciences.
I will probably vote for Kerry.
Just my two cents. And it's topic-relevant, so no
 apologizies for this single, humble American citizen's
 opinion. I know other planetary scientists have
 differing opinions, and that's OK.

 Francis Graham





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Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
Mike Farmer, I assure you that there are many more people who do not send messages to this as opposed to those that do. I wasn't signed up for the list, I read everything via the message archives. Your idiotic e-mail inspired me to join. I was in the military, I did my service, not that that has anything to do with anything. As far as Christian values, I haven't stepped foot in a church in over 25 years, but way to go Mike, your smart ass comment just cost your a few more customers I'm sure. Take some time off Mike, go tell your Chris Matthew's story somewhere else. You need to learn your place Mike, and that place isn't around decent, fair minded, meteorite collectors.

- Original Message -From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:35:05 -0700To: "Martin Brody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer



WOW , this is what I was protesting against, myself and "my filthy brethren" tend to like the constitution of the United States and take advantage of it when we need to, people like yourself seem to think that it only supports your own way of thinkingand everyone else can go to hell. 
Now Martin, I have never heard of you, and in a search of the archives I can not find a single post you have made. Have you ever posted? Why are you voicing your opinion on this meteorite list of you have never provided one email, one comment, or participated in one discussion? 
 "My Rants" are no more common than many others, now I do tend to speak my mind at times, I feel that people who never stand up for themselves are little more than cowards. 
 If you buy your meteorites (which you have certainly never bought from me) based on political views, then more power to you. I feel your hatred in your email Martin, this must be part of the "Christian Values" thatthe Bush corner tends toespouse while breaking every tenant of the holy bible?
 We will see if a majority support Bush on November 3rd, but I know where I hope we go. 
By the way, Have you ever served in the armed forces Martin? I have, proudly during the first Gulf War.we "protesters" loveour country so much, we will not blindly stumble like sheep to the Bush administration's terror alerts on a daily basis. I refuse to "be afraid" and vote my "fear" as we have been spoonfed the last three years.
Now, I agree that political discourse really does not belong on this list, I merely posted a small little blurb in order to see if this list was still alive. I am forced to sit through endless emails about everything under the sun other than meteorites, so adding one more topic is my right. 
Again Martin, since you seem to be a ghost who just reads and does not participate until now, perhaps you should continue to keep yourmouth shut until you start providing some meteorite-related material for all to use?

Michael Farmer

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Brody 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer


Dear List and Mike Farmer,
 I have followed this list for years, via the message archives. I have always tended to side with Mr. Farmer during his rants, which have been occurring more frequently. I am totally disgusted that Farmer would use this list to spew his hatred of a man that the majority of Americans support. Mike, you say your sales are off by over 30% from last year, and you want to blame President Bush? Look in the mirror buddy. Your ever increasing anti-social borderline psychotic behavior is to blame, NOT President Bush. Evidently, your judgment is as bad as your spelling when it comes to being a business man. Way to go, Mike, alienate over half of the collectors because you think you are some type of leader in the meteorite community and they will followyour warped and uniformed political view. It was great to see that Matt Morgan's business has been up. Perhaps you should take a hint and l
  earn to keep your mouth shut. Mike, you will never get one red cent from me. I won't contribute to pay for your plane tickets to New York to march with your filthy brethren. You are nothing more then an American version of Matteo, and, hopefully, your days on this list are numbered.

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[meteorite-list] in defense of mike farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
I have done lots of business with mike.I have even met mike 3 times, and I
think he is a class guy.As far as the political thing goes.I will vote for
kerry.I am,and always will be a republican.But who would of thought after
voting for nixon in 1972, and ford in 1976,that I would never vote
republican again.I just have liked who had been in the white house.And
thats that.Mike says what is on his mind and I respect that.I am just like
him.I speak my mind and tell it like it is.I will not beat around,no pun
intended here,THE BUSH.If you cannot say what is on your mind at the spur
of the moment,then instaed dawdel,then do not say anything.Ramblings from
a MF supporter in chicago.

 steve arnold, chicago

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
You have been non-stop here? I seem to recall your eradic behavoir has gotten you banned from the list at least once, which I sure will happen again. This is a metorite list, not Mike Farmers Meteorite List. There were collectors long before you Mike, and there will be long after you. I assure you, the meteorite community will survive without your stain on it. Don't get me wrong, I'm greatful to all the people who financed your trips to find the meteorites they paid for.- Original Message -From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:57:22 -0700To: "Martin Brody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

Thanks Martin, you showed what a jerk you are, by saying that I dont belong amonth people I have been interacting with for aomost 8 years. While you just signed up to slam me. Since you have never participated, your opinion is near worthless. How dare you tell me to "learn my place"! My place is here, wher eI have been non-stop for years, where you just popped in. So Martin, what is my place? 
Enjoy your time here. Those who participate havea good time.
Michael Farmer

- Original Message - 
From: Martin Brody 
To: Michael Farmer ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

Mike Farmer, I assure you that there are many more people who do not send messages to this as opposed to those that do. I wasn't signed up for the list, I read everything via the message archives. Your idiotic e-mail inspired me to join. I was in the military, I did my service, not that that has anything to do with anything. As far as Christian values, I haven't stepped foot in a church in over 25 years, but way to go Mike, your smart ass comment just cost your a few more customers I'm sure. Take some time off Mike, go tell your Chris Matthew's story somewhere else. You need to learn your place Mike, and that place isn't around decent, fair minded, meteorite collectors.

- Original Message -From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2004 09:35:05 -0700To: "Martin Brody" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer



WOW , this is what I was protesting against, myself and "my filthy brethren" tend to like the constitution of the United States and take advantage of it when we need to, people like yourself seem to think that it only supports your own way of thinkingand everyone else can go to hell. 
Now Martin, I have never heard of you, and in a search of the archives I can not find a single post you have made. Have you ever posted? Why are you voicing your opinion on this meteorite list of you have never provided one email, one comment, or participated in one discussion? 
 "My Rants" are no more common than many others, now I do tend to speak my mind at times, I feel that people who never stand up for themselves are little more than cowards. 
 If you buy your meteorites (which you have certainly never bought from me) based on political views, then more power to you. I feel your hatred in your email Martin, this must be part of the "Christian Values" thatthe Bush corner tends toespouse while breaking every tenant of the holy bible?
 We will see if a majority support Bush on November 3rd, but I know where I hope we go. 
By the way, Have you ever served in the armed forces Martin? I have, proudly during the first Gulf War.we "protesters" loveour country so much, we will not blindly stumble like sheep to the Bush administration's terror alerts on a daily basis. I refuse to "be afraid" and vote my "fear" as we have been spoonfed the last three years.
Now, I agree that political discourse really does not belong on this list, I merely posted a small little blurb in order to see if this list was still alive. I am forced to sit through endless emails about everything under the sun other than meteorites, so adding one more topic is my right. 
Again Martin, since you seem to be a ghost who just reads and does not participate until now, perhaps you should continue to keep yourmouth shut until you start providing some meteorite-related material for all to use?

Michael Farmer

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From: Martin Brody 
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Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 9:14 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer


Dear List and Mike Farmer,
 I have followed this list for years, via the message archives. I have always tended to side with Mr. Farmer during his rants, which have been occurring more frequently. I am totally disgusted that Farmer would use this list to spew his hatred of a man that the majority of Americans support. Mike, you say your sales are off by over 30% from last year, and you want to blame President Bush? Look in the mirror buddy. Your ever increasing anti-social borderline psychotic behavior is to blame, NOT President Bush. Evidently, your judgment is as bad as your spelling when it comes to being a business man. Way to 

[meteorite-list] Can't stop pushing

2004-09-05 Thread Peter Grieve
  Fellow Listmembers:
   Apparently some of Mr. Kerry's supporters cannot stop pushing. If 
the message isn't working, repeat it louder in an inappropriate forum.
   A neutral country must be able to stop belligerents from using its 
territory for war. A non-political newsgroup should be able to stop 
political posts. I signed up for meteorite info. Please stop the political 
posting.

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[meteorite-list] RE: Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
You should stick to what YOU know Mike, and that isn't politics, and it certainly isn't the political leanings of this list or this nation. Sit back, re-read the hate filled filth you spewed. The only thing you did was impact your income, and your reputation in the minds of people who used to support you. Stupidity can do that to you sometimes Mike. You want an honest debate about politics, thats fine, but the way you did it, the place you did it, and how you did it was wrong, and you'll pay a price for it business wise. Thats my final word on this.
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[meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List,

Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not politics or
arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a newspaper.
Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it for
relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several scientists
read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and have
already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened it to
a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For others it
reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and use
information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back several
years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some of
this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make a post
to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.

All the best,



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AW: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Bernhard Rems
JEHOVA

:-)

Bernhard

PS: For those not in the know: Life of Brian

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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Adam
Hupe
Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. September 2004 19:19
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

Dear List,

Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not politics
or
arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
newspaper.
Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it for
relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
scientists
read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and have
already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened it
to
a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For others
it
reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and use
information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back
several
years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some
of
this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make a
post
to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.

All the best,



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Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala
posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it
from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing
list.
Michael Farmer
By the way
How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have generated
that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you have
been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job of
hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.


On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want anyone to
go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right now,
among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.

 Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 Dear List,

 Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not politics or
 arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a newspaper.
 Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it for
 relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
scientists
 read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and have
 already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened it
to
 a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For others it
 reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and use
 information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back several
 years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some of
 this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make a
post
 to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.

 All the best,


 
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 The Hupe Collection
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[meteorite-list] Info needed

2004-09-05 Thread Peanut ..
Does anyone have a TKW for NWA 237?
Also does anyone have information on SAU 119?
Thanks,
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[meteorite-list] RE: Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
Mike, in yet another display of his brilliance, said:
"Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing list."
Tell that to William K. Hartmann, Andrew Mishkin, Dr. Tony Phillps, Richard Schmude, and Jeff Beish, to name a FEW Mike. Keep it up Mike, keep digging that hole deeper.I say this without respect, since none is due:you need to step away from the keyboard Mike.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
Joel Warren? The same Joel Warren who always defended you Mike? Who never said a bad word about you?
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[meteorite-list] Info Again

2004-09-05 Thread Peanut ..
Also does anyone known if Simmern is a find or fall?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Mike,

Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember the
Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after what
you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How many
museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?  Mike
you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a
real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because you
are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report
more of your escapades.

Tired of Mike's lies,

Adam

- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
 scientists.
 Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
 Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala
 posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy it
 from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
 Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
 bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
 Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite mailing
 list.
 Michael Farmer
 By the way
 How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
 and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
 meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
generated
 that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you have
 been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job of
 hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.


 On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want anyone
to
 go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right now,
 among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.

  Original Message - 
 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


  Dear List,
 
  Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not politics
or
  arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
newspaper.
  Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it for
  relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
 scientists
  read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and have
  already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened it
 to
  a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For others
it
  reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and use
  information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back
several
  years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some
of
  this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make a
 post
  to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.
 
  All the best,
 
 
  
  Adam Hupe
  The Hupe Collection
  Team LunarRock
  IMCA 2185
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AW: [meteorite-list] Info needed

2004-09-05 Thread Bernhard Rems
TKW for NWA 237 is 61g.

Bernhard

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Does anyone have a TKW for NWA 237?

Also does anyone have information on SAU 119?

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[meteorite-list] RE: Mike Farmer

2004-09-05 Thread Martin Brody
My name is Martin Brody of Pampa, TX. Graducated Texas Tech in 1982, with a Masters degree in Petroleum Engineering currently employed by Philliipsat the Borger plant. What more do you need to know Mike?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell us?

Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.

What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to them
then sold the mass to you.

Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.

I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont
trade with me.

Answer please.
Michael Farmer

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 Hi Mike,

 Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember
the
 Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
what
 you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
 How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
 scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
 upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How many
 museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?  Mike
 you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a
 real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
 survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because
you
 are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
 community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report
 more of your escapades.

 Tired of Mike's lies,

 Adam

 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


  YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
  scientists.
  Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
  Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala
  posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
it
  from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
  Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
  bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
  Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
mailing
  list.
  Michael Farmer
  By the way
  How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
  and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
  meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
 generated
  that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
have
  been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
of
  hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.
 
 
  On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
anyone
 to
  go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
now,
  among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
 
   Original Message - 
  From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
   Dear List,
  
   Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
politics
 or
   arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
 newspaper.
   Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it
for
   relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
  scientists
   read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and
have
   already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened
it
  to
   a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For
others
 it
   reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and
use
   information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back
 several
   years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some
 of
   this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make
a
  post
   to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.
  
   All the best,
  
  
   
   Adam Hupe
   The Hupe Collection
   Team LunarRock
   IMCA 2185
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Adam Hupe
Mike,

You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have been
taken along the way.

Adam


- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there,
 saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell
us?

 Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
 tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
 something to do with that? ANSWER please.

 What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to
them
 then sold the mass to you.

 Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.

 I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
 American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont
 trade with me.

 Answer please.
 Michael Farmer

 - Original Message - 
 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


  Hi Mike,
 
  Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember
 the
  Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
 what
  you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
  How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
  scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
  upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How
many
  museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?
Mike
  you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because
a
  real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
  survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because
 you
  are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
  community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to
report
  more of your escapades.
 
  Tired of Mike's lies,
 
  Adam
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
   YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
   scientists.
   Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
   Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the
Amgala
   posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
 it
   from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
   Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
   bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
   Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
 mailing
   list.
   Michael Farmer
   By the way
   How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
   and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
   meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
  generated
   that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
 have
   been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
 of
   hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self
congratulating.
  
  
   On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
 anyone
  to
   go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
 now,
   among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
  
Original Message - 
   From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
   Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
  
  
Dear List,
   
Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
 politics
  or
arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
  newspaper.
Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it
 for
relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
   scientists
read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and
 have
already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They
likened
 it
   to
a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For
 others
  it
reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and
 use
information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back
  several
years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually
some
  of
this material comes out in print so consider this 

Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
AGAIN ADAM, what did I do in Texas? answer or dont make such stupid
statements. What is in the press? I am really lost on this one, since I saw
the meteorite in the police station, and was home that night? Care to
elaborate? Adam, you have a real habit of making charges, then failing to
answer what you are talking about.
Anyone know anything about Monahans I don't?
Adam wasn't in meteorites at that time, so I am clueless on this one.
Museums? name one that wont trade with me, Ill bet you cant.
What scientist busted me stealing? Name please?
Adam, you brought these points up, now tell us about them if you have
anything other than your accusations.
Mike Farmer

- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 Hi Mike,

 Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember
the
 Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
what
 you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
 How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
 scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
 upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How many
 museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?  Mike
 you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a
 real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
 survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because
you
 are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
 community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report
 more of your escapades.

 Tired of Mike's lies,

 Adam

 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


  YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
  scientists.
  Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
  Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala
  posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
it
  from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
  Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
  bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
  Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
mailing
  list.
  Michael Farmer
  By the way
  How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
  and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
  meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
 generated
  that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
have
  been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
of
  hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.
 
 
  On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
anyone
 to
  go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
now,
  among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
 
   Original Message - 
  From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
   Dear List,
  
   Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
politics
 or
   arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
 newspaper.
   Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it
for
   relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
  scientists
   read the archives on a regular basis, mostly for entertainment and
have
   already come to conclusions about certain List members.  They likened
it
  to
   a soap opera with its very own drama queen based in Tucson.  For
others
 it
   reinforced opinions already held.  Journalist read the archives and
use
   information in their articles.  In some cases they have gone back
 several
   years and ask us what we thought about this or that.   Eventually some
 of
   this material comes out in print so consider this every time you make
a
  post
   to the List.  Every word is archived for the entire world to see.
  
   All the best,
  
  
   
   Adam Hupe
   The Hupe Collection
   Team LunarRock
   IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes for September is up

2004-09-05 Thread Paul Harris
Dear List,
MeteoriteTimes for September is up.  Since Jim will be visiting Meteor 
Crater again,  we posted some of the Meteor Crater
articles and our Meteor Crater Floor  Rim Tour site for everyone to read 
again.  Please remember that all previous MeteoriteTimes
are available from the Back Links link and most articles are also indexed 
by author from the Article Index link.

http://www.meteoritetimes.com/
Enjoy!
Paul and Jim
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RE: [meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes for September is up

2004-09-05 Thread moni waiblinger-seabridge
Oh Thank you!!
Just in the nick of time!
Something better to read for today than the list! :-)
Sternengruss and greetings, Moni

From: Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] MeteoriteTimes for September is up
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:38:26 -0700
Dear List,
MeteoriteTimes for September is up.  Since Jim will be visiting Meteor 
Crater again,  we posted some of the Meteor Crater
articles and our Meteor Crater Floor  Rim Tour site for everyone to read 
again.  Please remember that all previous MeteoriteTimes
are available from the Back Links link and most articles are also indexed 
by author from the Article Index link.

http://www.meteoritetimes.com/
Enjoy!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

2004-09-05 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear list and all attached,

First, thank you Mike for your concern. Yes, the eye of the hurricane is
just about over us here in Lakeland as I type. So far I still have power but
it has been flicking on and off for hours now. I do see a neighbors roof to
their carport blown off behind me but that is all I can see from inside the
house. To make this meteorite related, my meteorites are still dry.

Now, on to replying to Mike's post:
Mike writes-
  By the way
  How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
  and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
  meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
 generated
  that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
have
  been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
of
  hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.
 

Mike, I was in Morocco for two weeks the same time you were in Australia.
You are not the only one who likes to travel and travel often. We just don't
put ourselves on the pedistal about every trip or plant our faces in front
of a camera on Bourbon Street while there. No need to show passports as just
about everyone we know is very aware of how much we travel, no
self-congratulating needed, just plain hard, honest work (and the adventure
is fun too!)

Mike, why don't you take all of your nervous energy and write about your
adventures. I am sure people would like to read them in Meteorite! instead
of your typical unprofessional manner here. Take a long hard look in the
mirror and ask yourself why you are really pissed off at the world. Honest
competition is a good thing, embrace it or be run over by it. You should
worry less about others and more about yourself, you may do better.

Best regards,

Greg Indiana Jones Hupe - no disrespect to Harrison Ford ;-)



- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


 Hi Mike,

 Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember
the
 Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
what
 you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
 How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
 scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
 upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How many
 museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?  Mike
 you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because a
 real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
 survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because
you
 are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
 community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to report
 more of your escapades.

 Tired of Mike's lies,

 Adam

 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings


  YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
  scientists.
  Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
  Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the Amgala
  posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
it
  from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
  Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
  bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
  Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
mailing
  list.
  Michael Farmer
  By the way
  How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
  and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
  meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
 generated
  that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
have
  been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
of
  hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self congratulating.
 
 
  On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
anyone
 to
  go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
now,
  among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
 
   Original Message - 
  From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
   Dear List,
  
   Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
politics
 or
   arguments.  Some prominent people read it every morning like a
 newspaper.
   Others wait until they come home from a hard day's work and read it
for
   relaxation.  I was shocked when we heard in Houston that several
  

[meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

2004-09-05 Thread John Birdsell
Dear Adam.  It appears to us that once again you are  making accusations 
about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements 
with facts.  Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it 
seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back 
up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.  
The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is:

Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-
Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting 
for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted.

Kind regards
-John  Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites

Adam Hupe wrote:
Mike,
You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have been
taken along the way.
Adam
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

 

ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell
   

us?
 

Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.
What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to
   

them
 

then sold the mass to you.
Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.
I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that wont
trade with me.
Answer please.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

   

Hi Mike,
Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember
 

the
   

Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
 

what
   

you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How
 

many
 

museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?
 

Mike
 

you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because
 

a
 

real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because
 

you
   

are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to
 

report
 

more of your escapades.
Tired of Mike's lies,
Adam
- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

 

YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the
   

Amgala
 

posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
   

it
   

from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
   

mailing
   

list.
Michael Farmer
By the way
How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have
   

generated
 

that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you
   

have
   

been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job
   

of
   

hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self
   

congratulating.
 

   On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want
   

anyone
   

to
 

go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right
   

now,
   

among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Ramblings

   

Dear List,
Most List members joined in order to read about meteorites not
 

politics
   


[meteorite-list] Meteor Crater pic

2004-09-05 Thread Bernhard Rems
With all the politics going on here now (and internal politics as well),
I thought you might be interested in a picture showing me at Meteor
Crater this June.

But then again, you might not...

http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mc.jpg


Bernhard


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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

2004-09-05 Thread Mauro Daniel
Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to Mr.Farmer 
to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations on 
my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how 
many fake informations write Farmer in this list!


From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated  Allegations
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700
Dear Adam.  It appears to us that once again you are  making accusations 
about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements 
with facts.  Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it seems 
to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up your 
accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.  The 
meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which is:

Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-
Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting 
for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted.

Kind regards
-John  Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites

Adam Hupe wrote:
Mike,
You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have been
taken along the way.
Adam
- Original Message - From: Michael Farmer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings



ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went 
there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell


us?

Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.
What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to

them

then sold the mass to you.
Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.
I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that 
wont
trade with me.

Answer please.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: Adam Hupe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings



Hi Mike,
Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters, remember

the

Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after

what

you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How

many

museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?

Mike

you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because

a

real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer because

you

are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to

report

more of your escapades.
Tired of Mike's lies,
Adam
- Original Message - From: Michael Farmer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings



YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the

Amgala

posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy

it

from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite

mailing

list.
Michael Farmer
By the way
How is the we aren't dealers spiel still working out?
and the adventure stories about a couple of guys who have been on 3
meteorites hunts? You would think by reading the articles you have

generated

that you and Greg are Indiana Jones's but show your passports and you

have

been to Africa what, 2 times? 3 maybe? Still, you are doing a good job

of

hyping yourselves, I myself could'nt handle so much self

congratulating.

   On another note, I hope Greg is ok (really) I would never want

anyone

to

go through a hurricane and it is centered almost over Greg Hupe right

now,

among many other list memebers (David Weir) I hope you are well too.
Original Message 

AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

2004-09-05 Thread Bernhard Rems
Hmm...

I never saw that Michael made accusations against Mauro Daniel. I can
remember that he accused a certain Matteo - but this Matteo was banned
from the list, if I remember correctly (or he said he would leave
forever, don't quite remember), so I really don't understand what Mr.
Daniel says here, especially as he always insisted on NOT being Matteo).

This is a strange day today. Must be something in the air...

Bernhard

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von
Mauro Daniel
Gesendet: Sonntag, 05. September 2004 21:10
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to
Mr.Farmer 
to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations
on 
my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how

many fake informations write Farmer in this list!


From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated  Allegations
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700

Dear Adam.  It appears to us that once again you are  making
accusations 
about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements

with facts.  Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it
seems 
to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up
your 
accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.  The 
meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which
is:

Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-


Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all
waiting 
for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently
omitted.


Kind regards


-John  Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites



Adam Hupe wrote:

Mike,

You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and
address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because
frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will
only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have
been
taken along the way.

Adam


- Original Message - From: Michael Farmer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings




ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went 
there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please
tell


us?


Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.

What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998
to


them


then sold the mass to you.

Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.

I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum
London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that

wont
trade with me.

Answer please.
Michael Farmer

- Original Message - From: Adam Hupe 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings




Hi Mike,

Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters,
remember


the


Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again
after


what


you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and
lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention
the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di
you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How


many


museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?


Mike


you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby
because


a


real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer
because


you


are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the
scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to


report


more of your escapades.

Tired of Mike's lies,

Adam

- Original Message - From: Michael Farmer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings




YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither
one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the


Amgala


posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala,
buy


it


from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post
your
bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the 

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
John, Adam, and Greg, this thread went to far on all of our sides, it is
time to step back and enjoy a nice Sunday (with exception of Greg, who is
still very much in harms way).
None of this helps any of us, and as usual, I get a little too excited about
it all, when in the big scheme of the world, this little list means nothing.
I will take a break, relax, and am going to Panama to enjoy a nice vacation
with my wife, away from politics and meteorites soon.
I have a ticket to Denver, but am not sure I will attend, as I am
literally exaughsted from the non-stop travel lately.
So all of you who are politically and meteoritically charged like I am, take
a break, and enjoy life.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:59 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations


 Dear Adam.  It appears to us that once again you are  making accusations
 about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements
 with facts.  Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it
 seems to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back
 up your accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.
 The meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which
is:

 Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-


 Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all waiting
 for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently omitted.


 Kind regards


 -John  Dawn
 Arizona Skies Meteorites



 Adam Hupe wrote:

 Mike,
 
 You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and
address
 others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because
frankly
 Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will only
be
 able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have
been
 taken along the way.
 
 Adam
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
 
 
 ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went
there,
 saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please tell
 
 
 us?
 
 
 Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
 tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
 something to do with that? ANSWER please.
 
 What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998 to
 
 
 them
 
 
 then sold the mass to you.
 
 Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.
 
 I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum London,
 American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that
wont
 trade with me.
 
 Answer please.
 Michael Farmer
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
 
 
 Hi Mike,
 
 Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters,
remember
 
 
 the
 
 
 Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again after
 
 
 what
 
 
 you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and
lie.
 How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention the
 scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di you
 upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How
 
 
 many
 
 
 museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?
 
 
 Mike
 
 
 you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby because
 
 
 a
 
 
 real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
 survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer
because
 
 
 you
 
 
 are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the scientific
 community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to
 
 
 report
 
 
 more of your escapades.
 
 Tired of Mike's lies,
 
 Adam
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ramblings
 
 
 
 
 YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither one
 scientists.
 Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
 Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the
 
 
 Amgala
 
 
 posts during august with glee. so many people selling fake amgala, buy
 
 
 it
 
 
 from Adam if you want the real thing etc etc etc.
 Adam, if you are not willing to post names, don't bother to post your
 bullshit emails full of unnamed sources.
 Real scientists in Houston are way too busy to read the meteorite
 
 
 mailing
 
 
 list.
 Michael Farmer
 By the way
 How is the we 

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteor Crater pic

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Great pic Bernhard, I have walked the entire rim (at night) and it is
something else to watch meteors shoot across the sky while sitting on the
rim of the best preserved crater on the planet.
See you in Munich I hope?
Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 12:00 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteor Crater pic


 With all the politics going on here now (and internal politics as well),
 I thought you might be interested in a picture showing me at Meteor
 Crater this June.

 But then again, you might not...

 http://metcollector.rendelius.com/mc.jpg


 Bernhard


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Re: [meteorite-list] The Denver Show

2004-09-05 Thread Impactika
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I will always have some stuff 
in the trunk of my car.
And you can always call me:  303-503-9496 

And you still drive a Saturn, right?   ;-)

Dave (with crow bar).
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AH AH AH !!!

Yes I drive a Saturn. 
A new one, blue.
With an alarm system!  :-)   

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RE:AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

2004-09-05 Thread Super Karaoke
YOU ARE ALL SONS OF A BIG BITCH!!!
UNSUBSCRIBE ME, MOTHER FUCKERS



-- Mensaje Original --
Enviado por: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: 05/09/2004 19:16:08
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Título: AW: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

Hmm...

I never saw that Michael made accusations against Mauro Daniel. I can
remember that he accused a certain Matteo - but this Matteo was banned
from the list, if I remember correctly (or he said he would leave
forever, don't quite remember), so I really don't understand what Mr.
Daniel says here, especially as he always insisted on NOT being Matteo).

This is a strange day today. Must be something in the air...

Bernhard

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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mauro Daniel
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Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated Allegations

Why Adam have to put the allegations, when I have personaly ask to
Mr.Farmer
to put in pubblic the informations of who have put the fake informations
on
my accountFarmer have NEVER put this informations, and this show how

many fake informations write Farmer in this list!


From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: More Unsubstantiated  Allegations
Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 11:59:50 -0700

Dear Adam.  It appears to us that once again you are  making
accusations
about other meteorite dealers without backing up any of your statements

with facts.  Not only is this unfair to those that you malign but it
seems
to be becoming a habit of yours. If you can not or will not back up
your
accusations with facts then don't make them in the first place.  The
meteorite list has a number of clearly defined polices, one of which
is:

Make sure you can back up statements with -facts and references-


Mike Farmer asked you to back up your allegations and we are all
waiting
for you to present the Facts that you seem to have conveniently
omitted.


Kind regards


-John  Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites



Adam Hupe wrote:

Mike,

You would make a great politician as you avoid the real issues and
address
others with lies. I am not going to entertain you any more because
frankly
Mike the truth will be out soon enough, IN A BIG WAY, and you will
only be
able to blame yourself.  It is unfortunate that good people will have
been
taken along the way.

Adam


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ADAM, so might I ask what I did in Monahans? PLEASE tell us, I went
there,
saw the meteorite, and left for home the same day, so again, please
tell


us?


Meteor Crater? I got arrested there, Busted by Game and Fish for
tresspassing, and case dropped. Again, what scientist might I ask had
something to do with that? ANSWER please.

What museums wont trade with me? Chicago I guess since I donated 998
to


them


then sold the mass to you.

Casper my hero? You nead to read the archives better.

I still do trading with TCU, Smithsonian, Natural History Museum
London,
American Museum of Natural History New York. Adam, name a museum that

wont
trade with me.

Answer please.
Michael Farmer

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Hi Mike,

Ok, here goes a name, Everett Gibson, how is that for starters,
remember


the


Monahans meteorite!  Will you ever show your face in Texas again
after


what


you did to the good people? It is all in the press so don't try and
lie.
How about the Meteor Crater incident, would you like me to mention
the
scientist's name who busted you stealing?  How about the museums di
you
upset while you were learning from Casper, an ex hero of yours.  How


many


museums will not trade with you, would you like me to mention them?


Mike


you have done damage beyond repair so please find another hobby
because


a


real business man would not bring up the things you do and expect to
survive. Mike, you will not be around in meteoritics much longer
because


you


are quickly loosing what little support you have left in the
scientific
community.  If you want to continue this string I will be happy to


report


more of your escapades.

Tired of Mike's lies,

Adam

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YAWN, again, UNNAMED SCIENTISTS, all talking the Hopes, neither
one
scientists.
Adam, you are so full of yourself it isn't even funny anymore.
Call me what you like, but you are the drama queen. I recall the


Amgala


posts during august with glee. so many people 

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
WOW, anyone know who this pshyco is? Makes me look like a Baptist preacher.
Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread Matt Morgan
Since it looks like the List needs a little pick up...
My wife Karen and I are proud to announce the arrival of Kylie Rose
Morgan
Born September 4, 2004 at 9:15 PM MST.
Both mom and baby are wonderfully healthy.
This is the happiest day of my life!!!


Matt Morgan
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Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Some idiot from Argentina is seems, doesnt know what list he is subscribed
to.
Mike Farmer
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Re: [meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Holy Crap, you didnt mention that to me yesterday matt, that you would be a
daddy.
Congrats, enjoy, and email us some photos!
Mike
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Subject: [meteorite-list] It's a Girl!


Since it looks like the List needs a little pick up...
My wife Karen and I are proud to announce the arrival of Kylie Rose
Morgan
Born September 4, 2004 at 9:15 PM MST.
Both mom and baby are wonderfully healthy.
This is the happiest day of my life!!!


Matt Morgan
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[meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread bernd . pauli
 Since it looks like the List needs a little pick up ... My wife Karen
 and I are proud to announce the arrival of Kylie Rose Morgan
 Born September 4, 2004 at 9:15 PM MST. Both mom and baby
 are wonderfully healthy. This is the happiest day of my life!!!

Sincerest CONGRATULATIONS !!!

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RE:[meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread Super Karaoke

Rose Morgan certainly is a bitch like her mother, and you, the father (hahaha) are a poor man... Rose is the milkman daughter... HAHAHAHAHA

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[meteorite-list] weathering grade zero

2004-09-05 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.I have a meteorite question amid all the RAMBLINGS going on.I am
the possesser  of NWA 112 MAIN MASS.With a TKW of only 144 grams,it has a
weathering grade of zero.My question is, does anyone know of any
meteorites with this grading?Please let me know.This is very interesting
to me.

  steve arnold, chicago,usa!!

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Re: [meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread Deborah Martin
As someone who became a father, much to his surprise (not to mention the 
doctor's !), in February 2003, I wish you the very best and congratulate 
you on your new arrival.

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Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite

2004-09-05 Thread Dr. Svend Buhl
Christian,

absolutely breathtaking! Esspecially your 361 g Kilabo. I was always wondering where 
all the larger oriented masses go to. Now I know, its felix austria. 
Thanks for sharing them with us.

Svend

www.niger-meteorite-recon.de
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This is a museum collection of true orentation, 

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Subject: [meteorite-list] RE: Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite


 Hi,

 I want to show my best oriented ones:

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Anger_046_2128g_A.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Anger_046_2128g_B.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Anger_059_106.7g.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Anger_060_135.3g.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Anger_061_209g.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Juancheng_216g.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Kilabo_361.5g_A.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Kilabo_361.5g_B.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/Kilabo_361.5g_C.jpg

 http://www.austromet.com/collection/NWA_2296_3600g.jpg

 happy viewing,

 Christian


 IMCA #2673
 www.austromet.com

 Christian Anger
 Korngasse 6
 2405 Bad Deutsch-Altenburg
 AUSTRIA

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 Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 7:22 PM
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] Images of Cool Oriented Meteorite

 Dear List,

 I am getting very bored reading about non-meteoritic things such as
politics
 which do not belong on the List.  A great deal of List members could care
 less since they do not live in the US.  To get back on the subject of
 meteorites here is an image of an oriented stone.  It is not magnetic so I
 was very tempted to cut it. I held off in favor of cutting a core from it
 for study.  I just hate to damage a specimen like this.

 Trailing edge showing lip-over:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented1.jpg

 Leading edge:
 http://themeteoritesite.com/Oriented2.jpg

 Hope you enjoyed the images,

 
 Adam Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 Team LunarRock
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Re: [meteorite-list] weathering grade zero

2004-09-05 Thread www.Meteoryt.net
 Hi list.I have a meteorite question amid all the RAMBLINGS going on.I am
 the possesser  of NWA 112 MAIN MASS.With a TKW of only 144 grams,it has a
 weathering grade of zero.My question is, does anyone know of any
 meteorites with this grading?Please let me know.This is very interesting
 to me.

Dear Steve, I think that all fresh finds and especialy falls have grade W0.
Amgala, Kilabo, Bensour, Park Forest ? first recovered El Hammami and Gao ets/etc
.


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Re: [meteorite-list] It's a Girl!

2004-09-05 Thread www.Meteoryt.net
Since it looks like the List needs a little pick up...
My wife Karen and I are proud to announce the arrival of Kylie Rose
Morgan
Born September 4, 2004 at 9:15 PM MST.
Both mom and baby are wonderfully healthy.
This is the happiest day of my life!!!

Wow, this is first good information on this list from a few days.
Do You have TKW and photo of this new fall ?



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Re: [meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites

2004-09-05 Thread tett
Ask any Canadian what they think of Bush and you will get an ear full of
what an a-hole he is.

Corrupt beyond any measure and stupid with only family connections getting
him where he is today.  If I were an American I would be ashamed to have
such a president.

Mike Tettenborn
Owen Sound, Ontario
Trying to do my little bit to help get Bush out of office.



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites


 Thank you Francis, there are thousands of arguments against Bush, and
 thousands for him. It is up to every American to vote this year, it is
 critical on either side, because even though Martin posted the majority of
 Americans support Bush, the last 6 months poll numbers blow that out of
the
 water.
 This will be the closest presidential race in history. So every vote
counts,
 whichever side you are on, and anyone who does not vote, should keep their
 mouths shut.
 As a man who travels every month to other parts of the world, (something
the
 Bush administration has made extremely difficult for Americans) I see the
 reality, the hatred that the rest of the world has for us. You would think
 by watching Fox news, that the world supports us, you would be wrong. I
feel
 like we will soon be living in a prison, trying to protect ourselves from
 the freedom haters. What a crock of shit.

 Watch this hilarious (but oh so true) flash video. It cracks me up.
 http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/fiore/2004/07/07_201.swf
 I also think that the rest of the world is watching this election more
than
 ever. I was in Australia only a 2 weeks ago and all anyone wanted to know
 was how the election was going.

 Michael Farmer
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] GWB and Meteorites


  Dear List:
One of the ironic things about Mike Farmer's
  exchange is this: here we are in the 21st century and
  the only way to get new moon rocks is for people like
  Mike Farmer to collect them in the desert.  Should we
  not have research missions to the moon by now? While
  G.W.B. has made some talk about this, what is being
  funded?
 The Chronicle of Higher Education has deemed GW
  Bush's administration one of the most anti-science
  administrations around. Much of his core constituency
  denies Darwinian evolution and modern cosmology, for
  example. While the latest batch of planetary probes
  (Cassini, the Mars Rovers, Galileo) have produced a
  treasure-trove of information, those initiatives began
  in prior administrations.
 I post to Farmer's defense, and on-topic: I think
  we can do better in an administration when it comes to
  promoting scientific progress in the planetary
  sciences, and many other sciences.
 I will probably vote for Kerry.
 Just my two cents. And it's topic-relevant, so no
  apologizies for this single, humble American citizen's
  opinion. I know other planetary scientists have
  differing opinions, and that's OK.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] VCI + membranebox

2004-09-05 Thread greg Edwards
I want to get back and let you know what I came up with to store my
micromounts. I am now using a platic project box similar to
http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detailitemID=105310itemType=PRODUCTiMainCat=0iSubCat=0iProductID=105310.
You could also use
http://www.akro-mils.com/home_office/subcategory_display.asp?id=61 or
similar.

You need to keep these out of the sun (I was using one to store
ready-use starmaps, red light, etc in a widow ledge. After a few years
it got knocked to the ground and shattered into rather small
pieces...otherwise they are tough enough.

I use some twisted paper to fill in the unused area so the micromounts
don't slide around too much. Anyone have a better idea for storage?

I am pretty happy with  the results.

Thank you

Greg Edwards


On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:17:53 -0700, greg Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which gets us back to my original question. In your terms, does anyone
 know where to obtain a good palet that could hold 50 or so
 micromount boxes at one time? It would be nice if these could stack
 into a standard size container (picture a picnic basket with palets of
 micromounted meteorites being carried by Dorothy on a trip across Oz)?
 
 Thank you
 
 Greg Edwards
 
 
 
 On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:41:19 +0200, Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   1) Putting the stone /iron into a ziplock plastic bag with a piece of VCI
   paper, does the paper then emit some kind of protection onto the
  stone/iron
   ?
  
   2)Would there be any idea to first treating the specimen with VCI and then
   store it in a membranebox ?
 
  I also want to say that
  Meteorites would rust also becouse they are not polished and not good heated
  before cuting or polishing and if they not rust now, they can rust in near
  future becouse they are not cleaned/protected sufficient.
 
  There is also problem how we want show ours collection. Storing in zip-bags
  is ugly, make mess and its not easy to show our specimens. Membrane boxes
  are fine, becouse You can see specimen from both sides, but they are more
  expensive and not have palets to hold more boxes in one place. Its verry
  difficult to have order if You have 50 small boxes stored somewhere. F.e.
  small, 1 membrane boxes fit to palets from my small and medium acrylic
  boxes, becouse size it near the same.
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] VCI + membranebox

2004-09-05 Thread David Freeman
Dear Greg, List;
Instead of twisted paper, the local buy it all here type of store has 
cotton balls for next to nothing. If one or two cotton balls in a box 
isn't enough, they sell them in the large bag full.
For a very inexpensive display box, the same notable store types sell 
plastic sectioned boxes with see through lids for a few bucks.  Get one 
and load it with cotton balls and put the meteorites in the little nests 
of cotton balls.  My favorite is in the 2 inch by two inch square 
section size, boxes have around 24 or more sectioned areas, there's 
display for two dozen smaller meteorites...
Not as classy, but very affordable for the beginning collector...or 
the new seller of meteorites who needs a less expensive display case as 
one tests the stormy waters of meteorite sales. Specimen can be placed 
in a reiker mount box when it is sold at point of sale, or let the buyer 
get a reiker mount box from you too!
Lots of crabby folks sitting round for the last three day weekend of the 
summer, I'd say.
Gunshow Dave Freeman

greg Edwards wrote:
I want to get back and let you know what I came up with to store my
micromounts. I am now using a platic project box similar to
http://www.garrettwade.com/jump.jsp?lGen=detailitemID=105310itemType=PRODUCTiMainCat=0iSubCat=0iProductID=105310.
You could also use
http://www.akro-mils.com/home_office/subcategory_display.asp?id=61 or
similar.
You need to keep these out of the sun (I was using one to store
ready-use starmaps, red light, etc in a widow ledge. After a few years
it got knocked to the ground and shattered into rather small
pieces...otherwise they are tough enough.
I use some twisted paper to fill in the unused area so the micromounts
don't slide around too much. Anyone have a better idea for storage?
I am pretty happy with  the results.
Thank you
Greg Edwards
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:17:53 -0700, greg Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which gets us back to my original question. In your terms, does anyone
know where to obtain a good palet that could hold 50 or so
micromount boxes at one time? It would be nice if these could stack
into a standard size container (picture a picnic basket with palets of
micromounted meteorites being carried by Dorothy on a trip across Oz)?
Thank you
Greg Edwards

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:41:19 +0200, Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Putting the stone /iron into a ziplock plastic bag with a piece of VCI
paper, does the paper then emit some kind of protection onto the
stone/iron
?
2)Would there be any idea to first treating the specimen with VCI and then
store it in a membranebox ?
I also want to say that
Meteorites would rust also becouse they are not polished and not good heated
before cuting or polishing and if they not rust now, they can rust in near
future becouse they are not cleaned/protected sufficient.
There is also problem how we want show ours collection. Storing in zip-bags
is ugly, make mess and its not easy to show our specimens. Membrane boxes
are fine, becouse You can see specimen from both sides, but they are more
expensive and not have palets to hold more boxes in one place. Its verry
difficult to have order if You have 50 small boxes stored somewhere. F.e.
small, 1 membrane boxes fit to palets from my small and medium acrylic
boxes, becouse size it near the same.
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[meteorite-list] Ebay ad: 82 gram Glorieta Meteorite slice, .01 cent starting bid. no/reserve

2004-09-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi list,
Just listed some cool meteorites for sale on ebay,
including these two. They are both 3 day auctions so
take a look if you are interested. 



SPECTACULAR 3.25 kilo FRANCONIA METEORITE! AS SEEN IN
METEORITE MAGAZINE!
Item #  2268037272. 
URL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2268037272



82 gram GLORIETA MOUNTAIN PALLASITE METEORITE slice 
Item # : 2268026363. 
URL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2268026363



Thanks for looking,
Ruben Garcia







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[meteorite-list] Ebay Ad: FRANCONIA METEORITE! SEEN IN Meteorite magazine

2004-09-05 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi list,
Just listed some cool meteorites for sale on ebay,
including these two. They are both 3 day auctions so
take a look if you are interested. 



SPECTACULAR 3.25 kilo FRANCONIA METEORITE! AS SEEN IN
METEORITE MAGAZINE!
Item #  2268037272. 
URL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2268037272



82 gram GLORIETA MOUNTAIN PALLASITE METEORITE slice 
Item # : 2268026363. 
URL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2268026363



Thanks for looking,
Ruben Garcia







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Re: [meteorite-list] weathering grade zero

2004-09-05 Thread Nicholas Gessler
Chicago STeve,
Yup.  I found three pieces of one at Primm with the official name of Roach:
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~gessler/aerolites.htm
(Sorry for the bad photo).
Alan said it looked like it had fallen a few days before we picked it up.
I would say that I recovered 1/2 to 2/3 of it.
Spent days looking for the other piece(s) to no avail.
Cheers,
Nick

At 01:10 PM 9/5/2004, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hi list.I have a meteorite question amid all the RAMBLINGS going on.I am
the possesser  of NWA 112 MAIN MASS.With a TKW of only 144 grams,it has a
weathering grade of zero.My question is, does anyone know of any
meteorites with this grading?Please let me know.This is very interesting
to me.
  steve arnold, chicago,usa!!
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Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
Illinois Meteorites
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/





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[meteorite-list] Fate of Space Shuttles Unknown

2004-09-05 Thread Paul H
Fate of Space Shuttles Unknown 


Kennedy Space Center: Shuttles' fate 
unknown. Florida Today, Sunday, 
September 05, 2004

http://www.floridatoday.com/blogs/centralbrevard/2004/09/kennedy-space-center-shuttles-fate.htm

The fate of NASA's multibillion-dollar 
space shuttle fleet remains an open 
question.

NASA recovery teams will reopen Kennedy 
Space Center Monday and begin to tally 
damage done at the agency's coastal 
Florida spaceport. High winds from the 
easternmost edge of Hurricane Frances 
made it too dangerous to send teams in 
to KSC on Sunday.

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Posted on Sun, Sep. 05, 2004
While many evacuated, one family faced 
Frances in barrier island home, 
by BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/9591232.htm

Outside, winds pick up even stronger. 
They hear on the radio that Cape 
Canaveral a couple miles to the north 
is measuring 125 mph winds.

Yours,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA



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[meteorite-list] OT - Old Soviet Joke About Free Speech (was GWB and Meteorites)

2004-09-05 Thread Paul H
The discussion about Mike Farmer and 
his comments about President Bush 
reminded a Russian friend of mine, who 
grew up in the Soviet Union and then 
spent the time after 1991 living in 
the Ukraine, which wasn't governed much
differently than the Soviet Union, of 
a joke shared among close friends 
during Soviet times.

An American businessman was chatting 
to a Soviet official over an exchange 
of vodka after negotiating a trade deal.
After several shots, they got a little 
chummy and the American businessman 
politely mused that, the Soviet Union 
desperately needed freedom of speech. 

In fact, the businessman stated, In 
the United States, if I don't like what 
the President of the United States is 
doing, I can stand on the steps of the 
White House and call him a SOB and 
nothing will happen to me.

Don't insult us, replied the official, 
passing the American another shot glass 
of vodka, We also have freedom of speech 
in the Soviet Union. I can stand on the 
steps of the Kremlin and also call the 
President of the United States an SOB 
and nobody will do anything to me.

Best Regards,

Paul
Baton Rouge, LA




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