Re: [meteorite-list] Two Slow moving meteors over NE Pennsylvania
Hi, All, Any object falling to Earth from a decaying orbit from East to West would be in RETROGRADE orbit, which would be unusual for a man-made satellite. I don't actually know if there are any retrograde satellites (help, experts!) but it's hard to do, very expensive in deltaV, so I doubt it. A retrograde orbital re-entry would be faster, not slower, than normal. A natural object captured by the Earth's gravity is equally likely to end up in a retrograde or prograde orbit, even a partial one that brings it into the atmosphere to burn up, but it wouldn't be slow in either case. An interesting possibility is an Inner Solar System object in an eccentric orbit that extends out as far as the Earth. At the Earth, its (heliocentric) velocity would be significantly less than the Earth's (heliocentric) velocity and it could (if ahead of the Earth) be captured and enter the atmosphere at far less than the Earth's escape velocity. This is about the only possible explanation of a slow moving retrograde entry observation. Sterling K. Webb E. L. Jones wrote: Any de-orbit/decay expected tonight Sep 30, 2004 over Eastern North America? Perhaps there is a swarm in orbit-- both fireballs were very similar in look and trajectory. Interesting greenish color, low incandescant fireballs tonight at 8:21 and 8:27 Observed along Rt 209 in Carbon County Pennsylvania. They were slow moving, falling east to west. The first one glowed on two spots on the body itself after the fireball extinguished. This glow remained visible for almost as long as the fireball portion of flight. The observations were about 4-5 miles apart along the east west roadway. Didn't hear any sonic booms. (yeah ok ok I'll get around to a fireball report in time) I am announcing this now in the event that there is a stream and someone else gets to checkout their section of the sky. Regards, Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100%InLast Year
Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark -Original Message- From: Bernhard Rems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2004 21:32 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100%InLast Year I think these low prices are partly because people don't know how to sell. Look at the Hupes - they still get good prices for their material. Most people on the net or ebay sell meteorites like, well, rocks. Believe in their value and their beauty, communicate their value and beauty, and you will get better prices. Amen. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MARK BOSTICK Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. September 2004 17:40 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100% InLast Year Hello List, The Meteorite Market is Crashing!, The Meteorite Market Has Crashed the Last Two Years!, Things Are Not Selling, The Market is Ruin.it seems a common theme or underlined theme in the meteorite community. I have never seen this to be true. In fact, it appears to me that sales and interest has done nothing but increase.and at a really amazing pace. As we continue to increase the inflow of meteorites, it makes it harder and harder to get a large piece of everything, but I do not think that means things are not selling or the market has crashed. And to show this I present some of my website stats. Which show a general interest in meteorites is up almost 50%. While this does not mean sales are up 50%, the two factors are very closely related. The following is a list of different visitors, per a month, to my website, www.meteoritearticles.com. This is not page hits or visits a month, which are both larger numbers. Such information is usually kept private but I think some of you will find it of interest. Date - Different Visitors Sept 2004 - 4,484 (not over yetbut almost) Aug, 2004 - 4,239 Jul. 2004 - 3,244 May 2004 - 2,754 Apr 2004 - 3,069 Mar 2004 - 3,605 Feb 2004 - 3,352 Jan 2004 - 2,942 Dec 2003 - 2,480 Nov 2003 - 2,449 Oct 2003 - 2,393 Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The - October 1, 2004
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Re: [meteorite-list] clarafication on my meteorite sale and other matters
Steve A. of Chicago wrote: I'll try to pay more attention to this matter in the future. Also on a side note,I remedied the situation with bernhard rems. Also one more item,I do not like public insults on the list. If you want to tell me something, please do it in private. I would never stoop to anything like that. Again please forgive my computer stupidisy. Hi Steve, I am glad to hear it. I hope this means that you plan on making right with me over the specimens I had on hold for you but you chose not to pay for, yet did not tell me more than three three weeks and only after repeated emails to you. I look forward to the New Steve who keeps his word. Cheers, Martin ps: I did reply to you in private, but have yet to hear from you. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] clarafication on my meteorite sale and other matters
Steve A. of Chicago wrote: Also one more item,I do not like public insults on the list. If you want to tell me something, please do it in private. And, what about publicly calling another list member an ass wipe on your website a few months ago ??? .. just curious !!! Martin responded: I look forward to the New Steve who keeps his word So be it !!! Best regards, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year
Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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:-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year
But it also depends on which form of shipping you use. I ALWAYS use registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the only way I can protect myself. If you folks don't like to pay the customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to replace the piece if it goes missing? The logic is absurd. I have never paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year :-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year
Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide. The Hupes ship for app. $5. Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on the way :-). About customs: mark your shipment as mineral samples for studies with a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs. See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our money. But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means hassles means unattractive. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14 An: 'Bernhard Rems'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year But it also depends on which form of shipping you use. I ALWAYS use registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the only way I can protect myself. If you folks don't like to pay the customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to replace the piece if it goes missing? The logic is absurd. I have never paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year :-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year
It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. That's one of many things you have to say good about Mike Farmer, $1 to any where in the world. For a short while, he had free shipping! I won a meteorite from him for 99 cents and free shipping, it cost him 85 cents to ship it. I still feel guilty about that and if I ever get to meet him, I am giving him a dollar just to get rid of the guilt! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:09 AM Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year :-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-) Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bernhard Rems Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:23 An: 'Matt Morgan' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide. The Hupes ship for app. $5. Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on the way :-). About customs: mark your shipment as mineral samples for studies with a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs. See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our money. But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means hassles means unattractive. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14 An: 'Bernhard Rems'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year But it also depends on which form of shipping you use. I ALWAYS use registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the only way I can protect myself. If you folks don't like to pay the customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to replace the piece if it goes missing? The logic is absurd. I have never paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year :-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that request Registered Mail. Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail package lost and that was questionable. However I have had at least 5 unregistered packs lost. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:23 AM To: 'Matt Morgan' Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide. The Hupes ship for app. $5. Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on the way :-). About customs: mark your shipment as mineral samples for studies with a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs. See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our money. But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means hassles means unattractive. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14 An: 'Bernhard Rems'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year But it also depends on which form of shipping you use. I ALWAYS use registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the only way I can protect myself. If you folks don't like to pay the customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to replace the piece if it goes missing? The logic is absurd. I have never paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. Matt Morgan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernhard Rems Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year :-) Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping. It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. It makes good friends when you pay $7 for sh and the small envelope arrives with a $0.95 stamp. I ALWAYS include sh in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not disclose their international sh in the auction and rip me off with sh later, never see me in their auctions again. Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von fcressy Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:22 An: mark ford; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 30, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Waking up from a Winter's Nap - sol 238-241, September 30, 2004 After a well-deserved rest through solar conjunction, Opportunity is awake again and back to work. The conjunction was the period in mid-September when Mars was nearly behind the Sun from Earth's perspective, causing communications to be unreliable. Sol details: Sol 238 Opportunity completed instrument arm operations on a soil target called Auk by finishing a multi-sol Mössbauer spectrometer integration and collecting microscopic images of undisturbed soil. It then performing remote sensing observations on the next target, a rock called Ellesmere. Once the morning activities were complete, Opportunity took a 90-minute nap then stowed the arm and drove backwards 0.34 meters (1.1 feet). The rover used an afternoon communications session on sol 238 and an early morning session on sol 239. Sols 239 and 240 The planning session for sols 239 and 240 was extremely challenging for the uplink team. As the rover project transitions to five-day-a-week planning, the Opportunity team planned two sols of activities to be uplinked on sol 239. Adding to the complexity, the two sols' activities included difficult instrument arm placement activities. Rover planners rose to the occasion. The sol started with 45 minutes of microscopic imaging, then placement of the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on a target area of Ellesmere called No Coating. Opportunity performed a couple hours of remote sensing, used an afternoon communications session and then went into overnight deep sleep. On sol 240, Opportunity began taking a reading with the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer at 7:00 local solar time, then went back to sleep. After waking, it did an hour of remote sensing observations, completed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer integration and collected more microscopic imager pictures. The rover then placed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on its next target, Barbeau. Another hour of remote sensing completed the sol. Sol 241 Opportunity finished its alpha particle X-ray spectrometer integration on Barbeau, collected more microscopic images, switched tools to the Mössbauer spectrometer and started that integration. The rover performed a mini deep sleep overnight. Sol 241 ended on Sept. 27. Total odometry after sol 241 is 1,573.83 meters (0.98 miles - almost to the 1-mile mark). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi List, Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller items. Do not forget that multiple orders are combined. On the average seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an item, and all show up within 3 days. I would say this is not a bad deal. As far as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in have to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost. Shipping is not a good way to pad auctions. Hope this clears up a few things, Adam - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Bernhard, Matt, and All, Registered mail packages don't get lost - you'll have to start an official inquiry, and you'll find out where the package is. That's at least my experience. BTW, I only send registered (national, and international) for two reasons: If I don't send my specimens registered I have no proof whatsoever that I've sent anything to my customer. I also have no proof that my customer ever received the item, and so he can claim that I either never shipped the item, or that he never received it. I made this experience, twice, and ever since then I won't send anything unregistered. Best, Norbert -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that request Registered Mail. Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail package lost and that was questionable. However I have had at least 5 unregistered packs lost. Matt -Original Message- Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide. The Hupes ship for app. $5. Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on the way :-). About customs: mark your shipment as mineral samples for studies with a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs. See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our money. But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means hassles means unattractive. Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year
Hi List, I usually charge $3 for shipping on order under $200. That is $1 for a padded envelope, ~$1.00-$1.50 postage, and $0.45 for delivery conformation. Any money made on shipping is likely 50 cents or less, but often I absorb a greater cost when I include the specimen in a plastic case if it is fragile, or if it is heavy but inexpensive. I like to retain control over shipping choices on sales over $200 based upon where the piece is going, how it needs to be packed, and to whom it is being sent (since some collectors are higher maintenance than others). Therefore, I pay shipping on those orders so I can do it however I see fit. I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing headaches, it is not fun. Martin On Oct 1, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi List, Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller items. Do not forget that multiple orders are combined. On the average seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an item, and all show up within 3 days. I would say this is not a bad deal. As far as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in have to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost. Shipping is not a good way to pad auctions. Hope this clears up a few things, Adam - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 07-11-1875: Meteorite? Falls in Illinois
Paper: Atlanta Constitution City: Atlanta, Georgia Date: Sunday Morning, July 11, 1875 Page: 2 A Chip from a Star (Illinois State Register) A few days ago, as a lady, who resides in the south part of the city, was standing at the gate in front of her residence, she was startled by a rustling sound in one of the shade trees, and instantly afterwards heard some heavy object drop with a loud thump on the plank walk. On picking up the thing, it was found to be about two inches long and three-quarter of an inch thick, and appearance composed of exceedingly dense iron, with yellow blotches that resemble sulphur, and covered with a black substance resembling coal tar. When picked up it was found to be uncomfortably warm for the hand, and all the circumstances combined lead irresistibly to the conclusion that this little body is a fragment of a larger one which was a meteorite or aerolite. The sides of the fragment have the appearance of being split off from another body, and present longitudinal stria in the direction of the fracture. The ends seem to have been squarely broken off, somewhat like the fracture made by the breaking of a mineral known as galena. This little piece fell at about 8 o'clock in the afternoon when the sun was shining in a clear sky, and no doubt the greater body burst in the extreme upper regions of the atmosphere in the full blaze of sunlight, and so escaped observation. If this had happened during the darkness and stillness of night, the light and noise would no doubt have attracted attention. A moment's inspection of this fragment is sufficient to show that it closely resembles, in every respect, the aerolites that are known to have fallen in many parts of the world, and that are treasured as great curiosities in many museums; the more so as the substance of which it is composed resembled in its chemical combinations no mineral of terrestrial origin. Wherever these bodies or fragments are found they may be instantly recognized by this peculiarity; their substance being known as meteoric iron. A body of this kind was found in South American that is estimated to weigh 50,000 pounds; another in the Yale College cabinet, which was found in Red river country, weighs 1,685 pounds. (end) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 03-18-1880 Estherville Meteorite Article
Paper: Indiana Democrat City: Indiana, Pennsylvania Date: March 18, 1880 Page: 4 Fall of a Meteor At the last meeting of the astronomical department of the State historical society, held in St. Paul, an exceedingly interesting and valuable paper on meteorites was read by Prof. E. J. Thompson, of the State University. The following extract from this paper relating as to a meteorite that fell across the southern line of Minnesota, near the town of Jackson, will be found of interest: May 10, 1879, was a bright, clear, cloudless day. At five o'clock in the afternoon, in full sunshine, this meteorite passed through the air, exploded and fell in the town of Erterville, Emmet county, Iowa, about ten or twelve miles below the southern boundary of Jackson county, Minn. The path it followed marked a course from northwest to southeast, and was seen for a distance of several hundred miles. Mr. W. L. Wilkins, of Austin, told me that as he was traveling in the northwest part of Mower county, May 10, about 5 P.M., he heard an unusual crackling and hissing noise about him, and upon looking up saw to the west of him the meteor passing. This was more than 100 miles from where it fell. Mr. Pickard who resides in the northwest part of Blue Earth county, saw it pass as it seemed far to the northwest of him; and described it as a most startling and wonderful phenomenon - a huge ball of fire, followed closely by a cloud of fire. Reports from localities still further northwest, some from Dakota, confirms the opinion that its direction was as above stated. Its appearance in the heavens was that of a huge globe of fire attended by a fiery cloud. The inhabitants residing within the area of a circle whose diameter is six miles, for a few minutes were greatly alarmed; not more at the simple flying ball of fire which seemed so near to them, than at the terrific explosions immediately above them; those who did not see it thought an earthquake had occurred and were in great terror. All agree with its explosion and force. The noise accompanying its flight is described as rumbling, cracking, crashing, similar to that produced by a train of cars crossing a long bridge; then came a very loud report, immediately followed by two distinct reports in quick succession though not so explosion or loud as the first. It struck the ground in separate masses, together with smaller fragments scattered over an area of three or four miles. There were two large pieces which fell about two miles apart, in a direct northwest line, both at an angle of eighty degrees. The impression of those who saw the meteor in the air just at the time of explosion was that still another large mass fell no far distant. This has been confirmed by the recent finding of a piece weighing 150 pounds by a trapper named Robert Pietz. The largest mass, weighing 470 pounds, now at Keokuk, Iowa, penetrated a hard blue clay soil, covered with water, to the depth of twelve feet. The mass weighing 170 pounds, now at the State University, fell on a dry grassy knoll, and was buried to the depth of five and a half feet below the surface. A few rods from the largest mass would found a fragment weighing thirty pounds, and a schoolboy picked up a specimen weighing three pounds a little distance away from the largest. Three resembled the great body of the meteorite in all respects. - St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer. (end) Mark Note: Newspaper article on the Estherville meteorite fall. Misspelled in article Erterville. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 11-12-1922 Odessa Meteorite Found Near Blowout
Paper: Mexia Evening News City: Mexia, Texas Date: November 12, 1922 Page: 7 SLICE OF A METEORITE FOUND NEAR, ODESSA ADDED TO ECONOMIC GEOLOGY COLLECTION AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AUSTIN, Nov. 14 - Among the recent additions in the collections of the Bureau of Economics Geology in the University of Texas is a polished slice of a meteorite found near Odessa and submitted by E. J. Wall, manager of the Odessa Commercial Club. The meteorite is new being described by Dr. George P. Merrill of the National Museum of Washington, D.C., who is one of the highest authorities on meteorites in America. In a description written to appear in the American Journal of Science, Dr. Merrill says that this fragment of an iron meteorite was brought to his attention by Dr. A.B. Bibbons, of Baltimore, who stated that it was found by a ranchman at the west side of a blowout about nine miles southwest of Odessa. He says that it was placed in his hands as a possible sample of iron ore. The fragment weighed 3120 grams and was said to be cut from a larger mass, the size of which was not given. Exteriorly, the sample was much weathered and oxidized, showing that it was no very recent fall. A slice of the iron freed from all crust and oxidization products was analyzed, and the analysis showed that the meteorite contained a little nickel, and some cobalt. In addition to this, the sample contained small quantities of copper, chromium, carbon, phospherous and sulphur. The specimen will be listed in the collections of the Bureau of Economic Geology. Up to this time approximately twenty meteorites have been found in the state of Texas. The largest of these was acquired by the Field Museum in Chicago. The Wichita County meteorite is the property of the University of Texas. (end) PDF copies available on all articles postcard today upon e-mail request. Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year
on 10/1/04 9:09 AM, Bernhard Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. --- Hi Burnhard list members, Not sure where you live, but I charge ACTUAL COST. (Of course, no fee for handling - which is, indeed, a cut and dried rip off). However, greedy ones charge $7 and up has me confused, as nearly all registered mail (which I use for ALL overseas shipping, as it is the ONLY way to guarantee delivery, other than FED EX, which is more expensive) costs about $12 these days (it varies from $11+ to $12+ accept to Japan, where it costs $25!) All others (within the US) are a flat 3.85 + insurance ($2 first $100, $1 each additional $100). Insurance is optional, but recommended. Canada is the exception, where I can send Global Priority for $7, but I still recommend registered, as even without insurance, it is nearly 100% reliable. MOST out of US buyers want to avoid import fees, so, want no insurance. Fine, but not at MY risk. So, registered is THE way to go. (I also pack it safely enough that I can literally toss it across the room and bounce it off the wall with no fear whatsoever of damage to the specimen - I KNOW some nit wit is actually going to do this in transit, so, failure to prepare for same is just plane stupid. Of course, there is no fee for this. People who charge handling fees are outrageous in my book) So, when you say greedy ones charge $7 and up this does not make sense to me (Unless, of course, you are in the US and so is the seller - in which case, INDEED, that would be a rip off - unless insurance brought it to that level). Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Shipping Internationally
I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing (h)eadaches, it is not fun. ...Martin H. (2004) Martin, List, I am looking for a monument in my city to inscribe the above quote credited to its owner. I may even have to resort to graphitti. But that fun of Martin has been contageous not only for me, but for others, thanks to a superspecial shipping maneuver he executed to absolute perfection and on top of that, with the nicest greeting card enclosed. Registered, regular mail, whatever, while you all debate conclusively or not the verdict, in Mexico my limited experience has been everything worse than suspected, each list email on the subject reminds me that I have dealt with a couple of dealers who truly are gold standard for which I am very satisfied, but Martin certainly gets the Highest Diamond Peridot Meteorite award on a personal note. Receiving those meteorites was so much fun, perhaps this email will help ease my sense of gratuitude, which has also been knawing at me ever since, each time I share those specimens with someone who shares the wonder we all have here. And even a copy of the original label?...:-) Saludos, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: Hi List, I usually charge $3 for shipping on order under $200. That is $1 for a padded envelope, ~$1.00-$1.50 postage, and $0.45 for delivery conformation. Any money made on shipping is likely 50 cents or less, but often I absorb a greater cost when I include the specimen in a plastic case if it is fragile, or if it is heavy but inexpensive. I like to retain control over shipping choices on sales over $200 based upon where the piece is going, how it needs to be packed, and to whom it is being sent (since some collectors are higher maintenance than others). Therefore, I pay shipping on those orders so I can do it however I see fit. I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing eadaches, it is not fun. Martin On Oct 1, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi List, Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller items. Do not forget that multiple orders are combined. On the average seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an item, and all show up within 3 days. I would say this is not a bad deal. As far as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in have to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost. Shipping is not a good way to pad auctions. Hope this clears up a few things, Adam - Original Message - From: fcressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year Hi Mark and all, Regarding the small pieces: I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid (excluding overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a free give-away, you're making money. So who need a fall sale ;-) Cheers, Frank - Original Message - From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year Hi, 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff. Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days! Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear everyone associated with this post, We advertise eBay shipping prices based in the U.S. and then go from there. In EVERY eBay auction notice after win, eBay includes the following message to the winning bidder: Your payment instructions to buyer: Thank you for bidding with us. Please add the shipping amount indicated if you are in the United States, if you are NOT in the U.S., please email me your shipping address so I can quote the proper shipping amount for you. If you have won more than one auction, email me a list of auction numbers AND descriptions along with your shipping address so I can quote combined shipping and/or insurance. Thank you. If this is not clearly our way of asking all winners to contact us regarding actual shipping costs, then I don't know what is. Also, it clearly states we combine shipping to save the buyer costs. Sure, sometimes the actual amount will be a few cents more and, most often than not, the amount is higher and we pick up the extra costs. I will only ship Priority in the U.S. due to the fact that I can use the post office Priority boxes which provide protection against damage, much better than a padded envelope! I ship overseas packages typically in a box for same reason, and if a single item is durable, I will send in a padded envelope at a lesser rate than advertised. If a buyer pays a higher price for shipping and I catch it, I will contact them and inform them of this and to have free or discounted shipping next package. Almost all of our customers are return bidders so within the first couple transactions everyone is in tune to our way of shipping and can expect to pay for protected shipping. General question to all, would you rather have protected shipments in a box or run the risk of having damaged goods from a padded envelope?? I, for one, prefer to feel confident that the item being shipped to me will arrive in one piece. Sure, accidents happen or an unseen fracture in the specimen will show up during shipping. The postal workers are not the most careful bunch in the world, but with boxes, you get better insurance of safe arrival. Bottom line, you get what you pay for! Enough said on this topic, I have better things to do like package material to be shipped to happy customers, most in boxes! Have a great weekend to all, Greg Hupe meteoritelab naturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:43 PM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year on 10/1/04 9:09 AM, Bernhard Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5. Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up. --- Hi Burnhard list members, Not sure where you live, but I charge ACTUAL COST. (Of course, no fee for handling - which is, indeed, a cut and dried rip off). However, greedy ones charge $7 and up has me confused, as nearly all registered mail (which I use for ALL overseas shipping, as it is the ONLY way to guarantee delivery, other than FED EX, which is more expensive) costs about $12 these days (it varies from $11+ to $12+ accept to Japan, where it costs $25!) All others (within the US) are a flat 3.85 + insurance ($2 first $100, $1 each additional $100). Insurance is optional, but recommended. Canada is the exception, where I can send Global Priority for $7, but I still recommend registered, as even without insurance, it is nearly 100% reliable. MOST out of US buyers want to avoid import fees, so, want no insurance. Fine, but not at MY risk. So, registered is THE way to go. (I also pack it safely enough that I can literally toss it across the room and bounce it off the wall with no fear whatsoever of damage to the specimen - I KNOW some nit wit is actually going to do this in transit, so, failure to prepare for same is just plane stupid. Of course, there is no fee for this. People who charge handling fees are outrageous in my book) So, when you say greedy ones charge $7 and up this does not make sense to me (Unless, of course, you are in the US and so is the seller - in which case, INDEED, that would be a rip off - unless insurance brought it to that level). Best wishes, Michael __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorit InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
Hi Bernhard and List, for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges for packages from Germany to Oversea locations: Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90) Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46) Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69) up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92) up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84) Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52) It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45). And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox). Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages. Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices? $0.99 for the item and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more attentively in future. ;-) Best wishes, Stefan Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection Berlin/Germany www.meteoriten.com Bernhard Rems wrote: And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-) Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that request Registered Mail. Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail package lost and that was questionable. However I have had at least 5 unregistered packs lost. Matt == For some of You guys Poland is maybe country somewhere far far avay in the east, but from begining of my eBay career :-) not any one parcel was lost. I alvays send items in registered airmail and only few of them was lost for a few weeks to 3 months, to at last arrive to specified addresses. One time, verry expensive meteorite flying to France for 4 weeks. But this is around 2 long distance airmail per year. I dont know what they doing with this letters in post offices. I charge 3$/euro for shipping in europe and 5$ worldwide. This is near my costs, and usualy a little more than I really pay. Buy sometimes I pay more, for example if I need send something to Australia or Japan. I dont know how it is in US, but here in Europe if someone sendding something valuable he must use registered mail or just more expensive parcels or letters where You must include that small green slip for customs officers. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank You to all of our customers, eBay or otherwise
Dear list members, This is a good time to let every one of our past, current and future customers know we truly appreciate your business. With all of this talk about shipping costs and packaging, the main point is sharing meteorites with others and being able to use the funds we collect from sales to buy more material or find it through expeditions; to make new discoveries, whether they are in the lab or desert. Best regards, Greg and Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock meteoritelab (eBay) naturesvault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA 2185 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices? $0.99 for the item and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more attentively in future. ;-) Mikes shipping was free for me, but cost him around 85 cents! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: Stefan Ralew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear Hi Bernhard and List, for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges for packages from Germany to Oversea locations: Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90) Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46) Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69) up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92) up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84) Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52) It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45). And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox). Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages. Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices? $0.99 for the item and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more attentively in future. ;-) Best wishes, Stefan Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection Berlin/Germany www.meteoriten.com Bernhard Rems wrote: And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-) Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] shipping costs.
Hi, On some of the issues that Bernhard raised - it does cost around $5 to $7 to send from the UK to the States - allowing for the purchase of a padded bag, the packing time, the queuing at the Post Office (very lengthy here!) and then sending as 'signed for' delivery. Shipping costs are NOT just the price of the stamp! But it is important that the seller does not rip the punter off - it DOES leave a bad taste in one's mouth when a milligram piece is sent costing $10! Mike Farmer seems to charge minimal prices and I always appreciated that! just my $0.02 worth FWIW Thanks dave IMCA #0092 Sec. BIMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.
Hi All, Shipping, in my opinion, should be a minimal part of a purchase. I understand it's an important part, but low shipping and good service will always bring a customer back for repeat sales. My shipping costs are based on weight. 95% of all meteorites I sell ship for $1.00 and international shipping from me rarely tops $2.00. I consider the costs of the ziploc, the padded envelope, the specimen card and a little for my time and $2.00 usually covers it. I, like the Hupes also offer additional shipping options. I can send a package via 1st class or Airmail for $2.00 or less (Usually) or I can send Priority which is $4.00 or $5.00 to most Western European countries. (No Priority in most Eastern European countries yet) As of today, I haven't had any problems with any Airmail packages getting Lost and I have shipped to countries all over the world. I sell small pieces mind you, but I still believe the buyer should only pay the least that is necessary for them to get the item. Just my thoughts, Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
Hi Tom and List, Mikes shipping was free for me, but cost him around 85 cents! Thanks, Tom I have already understood. Then we have a sales volume of $ 0.14. This is a really collector friendly price. However, why do we greedy meteorite dealers money for our stones at all? It`s a shame! We meteorite dealers have all big houses with Swimming pools and drive big cars and we press the last cent from the collectors. (ok, usually I drive with my old Renault Twingo from Berlin up to the Sahara because I want to spare my Bentley) ;-) Dealers, let`s make an end to this depressing discussion. Open your treasure boxes and give the collectors the rare meteorites free of charge! Here my offer. The next three collectors who send me a email OFF LIST get one of the following pieces from NWA2289, Rumuruti chondrite R3-6 for free. Free specimen, free airmail shipping, free jewelbox. NWA2289 slice 0.30 gm NWA2289 slice 0.33 gm NWA2289 slice 0.40 gm I hope this helps! :-) Best wishes, Stefan Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection Berlin/ Germany www.meteoriten.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] thread recycling
Hello all, The following is only an observation and not an accusation, concern or even a problem for me. I've been on the list about three years now and we seem to recycle certain subjects over and over again. Some of these are listed below and seem to pop up more often than most. shipping costs and methods NWA 869 is a really nice cheap meteorite...a favorite A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy w/responses All NWA's are bad and are especially not worth squat unless classified with coordinates NWA's and their variety is the best thing that ever happened to meteoritics Tucson is coming soon...in 6 months Tucson was really fun...last year A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy w/responses Certain dealers feel other dealers are a-holes, and vice-versa meteorite prices are in ruin veteran dealers and collectors long for the good old days new dealers and collectors are glad for the desert boon A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy w/responses A list member quits the list and vows to never come back The same list member is back on the list and hopes things will be better from now on and on and on...but I love it anyway. Thanx Art, John __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Costs
I think the main problems...At least with sellers, are the fees on ebay and Paypal. I paid 75% of what I made last month to fees! Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Off Topic - Mount St. Helens
Hi List, I just heard from Dr. Irving (One of the scientists that is a member of Team LunarRock) that Mount Saint Helens had a steam explosion sending up a plum 16,000 feet. I am going to the University of Washington tomorrow to look at the seismographs just for fun. They are registering up to four earthquakes a minute showing the volcano is very much alive. It will be interesting to see if the earthquakes continue after this steam explosion. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Blowing Off a Little Steam
Mt. St. Helens hit the boiling point today... http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1087sid=ajrj9cIRbOJcrefer=top_world_news __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.
Yes Stefan, we have the worst place to sent from. German mail is the most expensive on earth, that's why always pay not only the package stuff, but also the larger part of the shipping costs, if I list items in US-ebay - otherwise I couldn't compete. Mike Farmer is the best. Even if he looses a small specimen at 1buck, he will charge 1buck for all shipment and he's the fastest in sending the stuff. The worst of the sellers, who lists each week his auctions, is I.K., who asks 10$ shipment even for small crumbs sent within EU. Martin A. - Original Message - From: Stefan Ralew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bernhard Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear Hi Bernhard and List, for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges for packages from Germany to Oversea locations: Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90) Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46) Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69) up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92) up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84) Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52) It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45). And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox). Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages. Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices? $0.99 for the item and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more attentively in future. ;-) Best wishes, Stefan Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection Berlin/Germany www.meteoriten.com Bernhard Rems wrote: And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-) Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Vesta meteorite question.
Hi, I have been looking at my Vesta rocks - Millbillillie and so on, and just wanted to confirm some facts and be corrected to! Firstly - Tatouine - I believe is a Vesta sourced rock?, what about howardites and polymict Eucrites? And also, are olivine diogenites from Vesta and if so, do they represent a layer of rock higher than Tatouine (due to their finer crystal grain and the fact that Tatouine is mainly Olivine)? Curiously yours! dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Pasamonte...What is it?
Hello all, In the book, Find a falling star, It states that Pasamonte is a Howardite. Is this true? Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte...What is it?
No, eucrite -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peanut .. Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 3:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte...What is it? Hello all, In the book, Find a falling star, It states that Pasamonte is a Howardite. Is this true? Cj __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - September 27 - 0ctober 1, 2004
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES September 27 - 0ctober 1, 2004 o Candor Chasma Plateau (Released 27 September 2004) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html o Layered Rock in Candor Chasma (Released 28 September 2004) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html o Wind Etching in Candor Chasma (Released 29 September 2004) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html o Candor Chasma Landslide (Released 30 September 2004) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html o Candor Chasma Landslides (Released 1 October 2004) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 11-12-1922 Odessa Meteorite Found Near Blowout
Hi Mark, As usual, I have enjoyed all of your postings, but this one in particular is special to me, so I would like to avail myself of your offer for the pdf file of it. I was born in Mexia, a small town of around 4,500 (at the time) in 1942. Mexia is located about 34 miles SE of Waco (considered the eastern part of central Texas.) I used to hang around the old newspaper office and printing plant when I was a kid there. I have many fond memories of the place. I moved with my family to Odessa in 1951, at the age of 9. Odessa is about 350 miles west of Mexia. Odessa is at a much higher altitude than Mexia and is within the northeastern boundary of the Chihuahuan Desert. This area is considered semi arid. I found my first piece of the Odessa meteorite at the crater in 1955, thanks to a side trip made by a mentor of mine at the time. That was V.C Wiggins, a former mayor of Odessa back in the '30s. He was a rockhound of wide renown in the area and I was a Pebble Puppy member of the West Texas Gems and Minerals Society. Mr. Wiggin's used to keep a Mason jar filled with small fragments of the Odessa meteorite to give to school kids who would drop by his rock shop. To be given one of the fragments was an honor, but required that the kid(s) stand still for the 10 to 15 minute lecture on the history and geology of the crater. Mr. Wiggin's was danged proud of that depression. We basically were on our way to the Big Bend area of Texas for a day of agate hunting, but Mr. Wiggins had promised to take me to the crater for some time, so he decided to go ahead and do it on this trip. It was cold, misting rain, a little foggy, and just breaking daylight when I got my first look at the crater. It was an almost mystical experience that I can still recall in the minutest detail. It wasn't until many years later that I learned that I must have stepped in many of the long ago, now time removed footprints of Nininger and Barringer. The crater, back then, was just a very large pit at the end of a very rough country road beside a fence line and then a short walk down a cow trail. Many improvements have taken place over the years. The crater area today is vastly improved over what it was just a decade ago. Now there is a really nice, modern, brick, air conditioned Museum and Visitors Center on the NE edge of the crater rim with paved paths through the crater, complete with well written explanations on signs posted along the trails about various aspects of the meteorite and the crater. The museum houses a really good collection of museum quality meteorite specimens from around the world. And, there's a few picnic tables and barbeque pits under a very large awning at the crater in case you want to sizzle some steaks, fajitas, or rattlesnake fillets (if you're lucky enough to catch one) while you're there. You really don't even have to remember to bring charcoal briquettes to the party. We have hundreds of thousands of square miles around here that is only good for growing mesquite, which is totally worthless except for being the very best barbequing wood in the world. And, IT'S FREE. There is now an exit ramp off of Interstate 20 that leads directly to the new paved road to the crater and Visitors Center. A far cry from the first time I went. In fact, Interstate highways were still decades away back then. The road is now fenced on both sides to keep the cows and pumpjacks off of it. There's still a couple of old cattle guards to thumpity-thumpity over, though. But best of all- IT'S FREE! That's right, there's absolutely no charge, unlike that other notorious crater in the wilds of Arizona. However, there is a pickle jar on the counter in the Visitor's Center labeled DONATIONS. So, anyone finding themselves in the vicinity of this little bitty place known as West Texas, please make an effort to stop by the crater. It's (now) well worth the effort and a thing the entire family can enjoy. So, Mark, I guess you can see how coincidental this particular posting of yours seems to me. The article being from a very small town newspaper- rather than Dallas, Houston, Austin, or some other Texas city; and then it's about something that would become important to me in my new hometown, Odessa. So if you would please, Mark, I would love to have a copy of the pdf scan of the original story. Many thanks, Jerry Wallace Odessa, Texas PS... 1. Yes. I still have that piece of the Odessa Meteorite that I kicked up and picked up in 1955. I've never thrown anything away. I really should live in a very large warehouse. Shoot, I've still got all the banded agate I brought back from that same trip in a nail keg somewhere. 2. No. I'm not a member of the Odessa Chamber of Commerce. In fact, I'm not even a big fan of west Texas. 3. And, if you bring the family, give me a call when you come through to see the crater. I have a Mason jar with some Odessa fragments in it for the kids, if they can stand to listen to the 10 to 15 minute
Re: [meteorite-list] Vesta meteorite question.
Hola Dave, You can check out my web page. This is my favorite subject in meteorites, if you can get past the cute references in the begining of the page, and most of this is explained. http://www.diogenite.com then click on the Vesta and the Diogenite links! Welcome to the Vesta Fan Club... Saludos, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] References for Pantar, Mezo-Maderas and Searsmont?
Hello: Does anyone out there have some references of good articales for the Pantar, MezoMaderas and Searsmont falls? After acquiring these in an exchange I would like to read more about them. Any help is appreciated! Thanks, Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] campo sales L5 and meteorite sale
Hello list.Just a reminder that I have pictures of all 27 stones of CAMPO SALES L5 Meteorite lots forsale.The price per gram will astound you.Also my 3 for 1 sale ends tonight at 10 pm chicago time. steve = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AW: General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear
Norbert, Bernhard, Matt, and list A US registered package must be signed for by each and every postal worker who handles it. Should it disappear, the powers that be go straight to the last person who signed for it. Registered mail is for valuables. Up to the individual to decide if $200 is valuable, or if it need be a lot higher in value to justify registered mail. All registered packages are handled seperately from all other classes of mail. You can settle for less expensive insured mail, but such packages are routed with all other parcels. Registered items are kept in locked cages and conveyed to branch offices apart from the flood of mail and packages that comprise the bulk of mail volume. Getting it signed for every step of the way is as close to TLC as the post office gets, so if it's valuable to you as a buyer or seller, send it registered. Best wishes, Charlie Devine USPS Wrwick, R.I. USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Off Topic - Mount St. Helens
Oh, I get it, I misspelled Plume. I bet it would have shot a plum up that high if it was anywhere near the vent. Anyway, Dr. Irving has been acting as a live commentary all afternoon on Q13 Fox and will be talking about it again tonight at 10:00 PM if there are any local viewers on the list. This may be your chance put a face on one of the scientists who was the first to study 75% of the planetary material coming out of NWA the last couple of years. I find it very fascinating and it looks like the seismic activity is returning meaning maybe another event. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
