RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom
again with this idiot? From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:26:17 -0700 Dear Proud Tom: Greetings comrade, and congratulations on your well-deserved 2004 Harvey Award. I'm sorry you weren't able to accept it in person. Steve Campo Sales sale now on Arnold Chicago USA! is keeping it safe for you, in a box under his bed, next to some radioactive Brahin. I emailed you a question ages ago -- a really important one -- and have yet to receive a reply. Oh woe is me! We need information, and by hook or by crook we'll get it. I think the Meteorite List truly needs your wisdom and nitric acid wit, oh wise Proud Tom. What with the American election coming up, the uproar about the alleged Campo Sales/Pultusk/Tessera de Bastardo fraud and all the rest of it, where is a collector to turn for reliable info and really good Photoshop caricatures? Gasp! I was speaking with Island Meteorite owner, Geoff Cintron -- just yesterday -- and he told me he would even consider re-joining the Meteorite List if Proud Tom were to post another one of his phantom websites. Whaddya say? = Geoff N., Tucson, AZ 85741 The Radioactive Collector Proud Tom Fan #0001 website url http://www.rathergood.com/punk_kittens/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Scarica gratuitamente MSN Toolbar! http://toolbar.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:meteorite-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McomeMeteorite Meteorite Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom again with this idiot? Yeah, I wonder, too. I thought he was banned from this list? Bernhard __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] RE: large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobylarea
Yep, it's actually amazing how un-radioactive meteorites are, when you consider where they have come from and that some have actually melted due to radioactivity, long ago. I guess the differentiation on an asteroid and the fact that there is no aqueous action on the rocks, means that any naturally occurring radioisotopes are well dispersed, and not concentrated enough to measure. Lots of short lived isotopes on new falls due to cosmic events though.. Mark -Original Message- From: Pekka Savolainen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2004 20:47 To: Brennan Klose Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobylarea Well, I have 3 Geiger counters, but not radioactive meteorites...;- I´m also a collector of minerals, and there are many, many minerals, radioactive in the nature. Some slightly, like Columbite, some not so slightly, like Uranite, these I keep in my garage, but my Brahins are all in the house ;- best, pekka s Brennan Klose wrote: Hi All, I just want you all to know that it is nothing dangerous (radioactive) in all Brahin samples. Brahin meteorite fell long ago and all samples that were (and will be) found are from quite deep level under the surface (0.5-1.5 meters) where no radiation is. Some radiation is only on the surface in that area. My friends and I were several times there. But we are not enemies for our selves. The radiation is quite low in the area where the ellipse of Brahin is located. Temporary visiting that place is absolutely safety for health. Even several tenths of years you can live there. Just they made a border between living and not living areas on the level of 30 microrentgen/h. (The Brahin town is in the level of 36 microrentgen/h and people live there. They let cows eat the grass there and eat the meat and drink milk after without any doubt. Note, that a lot of Earth stones that were used to built big houses have more radiation level than all meteorites (including Brahin). We pass all the times the security in many airports of the world with Brahin. It impossible to carry radioactive goods on the plane! If you still not believe, get a Geiger counter, measure something at home and after bring it to one of the shows (or measure you own Brahin sample if you have already one). All the best. Serge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY - Monday, October 25, 2004
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_25.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich - CONTACT INFORMATION FOR ATTENDANTS
This is my final lmail to the list, since I will leave Vienna tomorrow and add some days of leisure at my father's house in Upper Austria (no internet). I will arrive in Munich on Thursday afternoon. If you want to contact me for any reason, there are two ways to do that: 1) At my hotel: Hotel Ibis Muenchen Messe, Otto Lilienthal Ring 2, D-85622 Feldkirchen, Munich, Germany. Tel : (+49)89/939290 Fax : (+49)89/93929502 2) my cell phone (roaming fees apply for you and me) Tel: +43660/2112645 I will be on the show all three days. Bernhard Rems __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: ON/OFF TOPIC Round Goes the WEASEL because he cannot post to the Easel
List members and Mauro, whom have a need of a laugh buy more Campo sales, see Matteo, Danelle, Manuello or anyother address/alias he can schlep. He has the humility to rear his head to criticize Proud Tom!!! I think he should continue to sell his mo Teressa? Why should he worry about the bricks that he is short of? Anyway, wish I was in Germany to have some good laughs and perhaps a good German beer with those that are there. Anom.? dr...tokyo __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Possible Ohio Impact
Sunday Night Fireball in Ohio.. -John http://www.10tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2472919 Licking County Reports of Meteorite in Licking County Nature provided a brief, spectacular light show Sunday night, with what aviation authorities say was a meteor flashing through the sky. The traffic control tower at Port Columbus International Airport said that pilots reported seeing the astronomical event. Tower officials said pilots indicated they thought the meteor exploded in the sky. Spotting a meteor is not something unheard of, but this one produced a large flash of blue light visible in the sky that many people called the 10TV Newsroom to report. Two reporters out on assignment during the 11 p.m. NightBeat newscast also confirmed seeing the natural phenomenon east of Columbus. There was also an unconfirmed report of the meteor making impact, thus making it a meteorite. The Newark Police Department said Licking County authorities were investigating the possibility of the space debris hitting the ground near the small community of Etna. The southwestern Licking County village is due south of Pataskala near Interstate 70. The sheriff's office said deputies searched for any signs of damage in the area the impact was reported. No signs confirming such an event had been found as of early Monday morning. Newark Police Officer Mike Oberfield told 10TV that from his vantage point, it didn't appear likely that the meteor hit the ground in Licking County. But it still made quite an impact. It looked like one of the bomb shells they shoot up into the air and sparks come out of the back of it. There's many little points of light glowing or burning. And it had white in it, along with blue and green color to it, Officer Oberfield said. I've never seen anything as spectacular as this shooting star either -- the whitest trail I've ever seen. And I've never seen one that had what looks like a twist in it -- or it was rotating. So there may not be any impression left behind on the landscape. But the event made a mark on the minds of everyone who witnessed it Sunday night. Truck drivers we found at truck stops in Licking County reported seeing the spectacle while they were on the road as far away as Indiana and Pennsylvania. Another 10TV reporter near Cincinnati at the time says she saw as she was driving toward Columbus. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] test
Test. Please do not reply. Thanks CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mark ford Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 3:47 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: large,radioactive ebay brahins from chenobylarea Yep, it's actually amazing how un-radioactive meteorites are, when you consider where they have come from and that some have actually melted due to radioactivity, long ago. I guess the differentiation on an asteroid and the fact that there is no aqueous action on the rocks, means that any naturally occurring radioisotopes are well dispersed, and not concentrated enough to measure. Lots of short lived isotopes on new falls due to cosmic events though.. Mark -Original Message- From: Pekka Savolainen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 October 2004 20:47 To: Brennan Klose Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: large, radioactive ebay brahins from chenobylarea Well, I have 3 Geiger counters, but not radioactive meteorites...;- I´m also a collector of minerals, and there are many, many minerals, radioactive in the nature. Some slightly, like Columbite, some not so slightly, like Uranite, these I keep in my garage, but my Brahins are all in the house ;- best, pekka s Brennan Klose wrote: Hi All, I just want you all to know that it is nothing dangerous (radioactive) in all Brahin samples. Brahin meteorite fell long ago and all samples that were (and will be) found are from quite deep level under the surface (0.5-1.5 meters) where no radiation is. Some radiation is only on the surface in that area. My friends and I were several times there. But we are not enemies for our selves. The radiation is quite low in the area where the ellipse of Brahin is located. Temporary visiting that place is absolutely safety for health. Even several tenths of years you can live there. Just they made a border between living and not living areas on the level of 30 microrentgen/h. (The Brahin town is in the level of 36 microrentgen/h and people live there. They let cows eat the grass there and eat the meat and drink milk after without any doubt. Note, that a lot of Earth stones that were used to built big houses have more radiation level than all meteorites (including Brahin). We pass all the times the security in many airports of the world with Brahin. It impossible to carry radioactive goods on the plane! If you still not believe, get a Geiger counter, measure something at home and after bring it to one of the shows (or measure you own Brahin sample if you have already one). All the best. Serge __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Pekka Savolainen Jokiharjuntie 4 FIN-71330 Rasala FINLAND + 358 400 818 912 Group Home Page: http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/eurocoin Group Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Small cuts of Dolores Sale
Hola List I finished 5 small cuts of Dolores Iron, You can see these in my web www.meteorites.cl , Dolores was submit to Meteoritical Bulletin N° 88 Best regards Rodrigo Martinez Atacama Desert Meteorites www.meteorites.cl __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Workshop on Oxygen in Asteroids and Meteorites
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/am2005/ Workshop on Oxygen in Asteroids and Meteorites May 31-June 3, 2005, Flagstaff, Arizona FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT -- October 2004 -- Conveners David W. Mittlefehldt, NASA Johnson Space Center Thomas Burbine, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Sponsored by Lunar and Planetary Institute, National Aeronautics and Space Administration, NASA Cosmochemistry Program Asteroids and Meteorites Team and Program Committee David W. Mittlefehldt (Leader), NASA Johnson Space Center Thomas Burbine (Co-Leader), NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Jeremy Delaney, Rutgers University Ian Franchi, Open University Andrew Rivkin, Massachusetts Institute of Technology Michael Zolensky, NASA Johnson Space Center PURPOSE AND SCOPE The NASA Cosmochemistry Program and the Lunar and Planetary Institute are sponsoring a five-year scientific initiative entitled Oxygen in the Solar System: Origins of Isotopic and Redox Complexity. The goal of the initiative is to better understand the important cosmochemical roles of oxygen and oxygen compounds in all their manifestations. The initiative consists of four teams: Terrestrial Planets, Asteroids and Meteorites, Outer Planets, and Earliest Solar System Materials and Processes. A formal announcement of this initiative appeared in the December 9, 2003, issue of Eos. Additional information can be accessed on the LPI Web site at http://www.lpi.usra.edu/oxygen/. The Workshop on Oxygen in Asteroids and Meteorites, organized by the Asteroids and Meteorites Team, will be held May 31-June 3, 2005, in Flagstaff, Arizona. The scope of the workshop will be broad. The workshop will examine fundamental issues regarding the chemical and isotopic distribution of oxygen in the solar system as evidenced in asteroid mineralogy, asteroidal meteorites, and constraints from modeling. Topics of interest will include * mineralogy of asteroids, especially that which speaks to the distribution of oxidation state throughout the asteroid belt * oxygen isotopic compositions and partial pressures of parent bodies as recorded in meteorites * connections between oxygen isotopic composition, oxygen partial pressure, and other parent-body characteristics, such as moderately volatile element, carbon, and hydrogen contents, that may give clues to the distribution and speciation of oxygen in the solar system * asteroid processes, from low-temperature fluid-rock interactions to magmatic differentiation, that affected their initial oxygen characteristics * variations in oxygen isotopic composition or oxidation state with time on asteroids * space weathering as a complicating factor in interpretation of asteroid surfaces This list is not comprehensive; contact one of the conveners with your ideas that address the fundamental goals of the oxygen initiative. We are always happy to have someone help us with our work! TENTATIVE WORKSHOP SCHEDULE The four-day workshop will consist of seven oral sessions, with Thursday afternoon (June 2) free. Morning sessions will nominally be scheduled from 8:30 a.m. until noon, and afternoon sessions will be scheduled from 1:30 to 5:00 p.m. In the interest of promoting discussion, these times will remain flexible. The program will consist of both invited and contributed talks. Each major subtopic will have a 20-minute invited presentation to provide an introduction and background. These will be followed by eight to ten 10-minute talks per session, with the remaining time allotted for discussion. This format proved highly successful at the Workshop on Oxygen in the Terrestrial Planets, held in July. We intend to hold speakers to their allotted times (10 or 20 minutes) for the formal presentation, but will allow the discussion to continue as long as useful interchange of ideas is occurring. Please note that the number of oral presentations will be limited to encourage and facilitate discussion. Preference for oral presentation will be given to those participants discussing general themes, as opposed to specific research results. A poster session will be held on Wednesday, June 1, in the evening. Posters will remain on display throughout the entire meeting. LOCATION The workshop will be held at the Radisson Woodlands Hotel, 1175 W. Route 66, Flagstaff, Arizona (800-333-; www.radisson.com/flagstaffaz http://www.radisson.com/flagstaffaz). Flagstaff is located in north-central Arizona on the beautiful Kaibab Plateau. Most attendees will probably arrive from Flagstaff Pulliam Airport, which is approximately 5 miles (8 kilometers) south of downtown Flagstaff. American West Airlines' branch, America West Express, the only commercial airline carrier flying to Flagstaff, provides air shuttle service between Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport and Flagstaff. Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport is the nearest international airport to Flagstaff and is served
RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite preservation
A suggestion on how to best protect your containerized meteorite. Use a emitter and simply enclose a small one with your meteorite. Rusty Bill Mason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MarkF Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:44 PM To: Thomas Randall - KB2SMS Cc: meteor list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite preservation Hi Tom and List I got some of those acrlyic vacumm storage jars for foods for my mass storage of stones and irons (like when I moved). They seem to hold the vacumm very well, they use a little handheld pump and they can be seen through very well. They come in a variety of sizes. The ones I see for sale now use a pump which is built into the lid. Either way, they are reusable and you can pump them back down, unlike the storage bags which are one time use. Mark - Original Message - From: Thomas Randall - KB2SMS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Comcast Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite list - Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite preservation Hi Bob and list, Although I haven't tried these I imagine they at least help keep away moisture. Probably better than Tupperware (which is what I currently use). I remember seeing a commercial for this clear globe like device that you pump the air out and it's supposed to vacuum seal the item. Marketed to collectors. I can't remember the name of the thing. Regards to all, Tom Randall On Sat, 2004-10-23 at 11:07, Comcast Mail wrote: Hello list, I was just sitting down eating breakfast and my wife was watching an infomercial on a product that is called Foodsaver . The product is used with thick plastic bags. The way it works is, the machine vacuums out all of the air and the food is sealed air tight in a 3 layer plastic bag. Of course I thought, this has to be the ultimate way to protect meteorites from moisture. Sure, it wouldn't be an appealing way to display meteorites. But, like myself Im sure many collectors have numerous meteorites just stored away in plastic containers. I was wondering if anyone uses this machine currently to store meteorites. I would like to see how effective it is. Im sure its available on ebay listed under the name : Foodsaver Bob Evans __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - October 22, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Wave Goodbye to 'Wopmay' - sol 258-264, October 22, 2004 Opportunity's health is excellent. Solar exposure continues to be very good. Opportunity spent its first night inside Endurance Crater on sol 134. To date, the rover has spent 130 sols in the crater, grinding 21 targets with the rock abrasion tool, performing 62 integrations with the Mossbauer spectrometer and 33 with the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer, and taking 115 observations with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Opportunity finally completed observations on the rock Wopmay, and is ready to begin its trek towards Burns Cliff on the way to exiting Endurance Crater. Sol details: On sol 258, Opportunity examined three targets (Otter, Jenny, and Hiller) on Wopmay with its microscopic imager. Each of the observations was designed to produce a mosaic. They relied on touching the instrument's contact sensor to the uneven surface of Wopmay for each quadrant of each mosaic to ensure appropriate standoff distances for good focus. Sols 259 through 261 were designed as a single three-sol weekend plan. During the morning of sol 259, arm operations continued with two more microscopic imager mosaics of the targets Jet Ranger 2 and Twin Otter. In the early afternoon, Opportunity placed its alpha particle X-ray spectrometer in a hover position approximately 1 centimeter (0.4 inches) above Otter. After a couple of naps and miniature thermal emission spectrometer observations, the rover went into deep sleep until the next morning. The first part of a reading with the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer over Otter was performed for three hours in the morning of sol 260. During the same period, the rover made navigation camera, panoramic camera, and miniature thermal emission spectrometer cloud observations, then snapped images with the navigation and panoramic cameras in the drive direction. While performing an atmospheric observation with the panoramic camera, Opportunity collected extra images of the sky close to the Sun to allow observations of the dust accumulation on the camera's window. In the early morning of sol 261, the reading with the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer resumed, continuing until about 11 a.m. local solar time and producing excellent spectra despite the standoff position of the sensor. Opportunity then collected Mossbauer data over Otter for another three hours. Several remote science observations were made over the course of the sol, including photometric measurements with the panoramic camera and targeted observations of Wopmay with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and the panoramic camera observations. On the morning of sol 262, Opportunity took a third photometric measurement and used the panoramic camera to study Wopmay, concluding the weekend plan. In the early afternoon, the rover made a final microscopic image of the target Hercules on Wopmay, then backed away as part of a plan to re-approach the back side of Wopmay for possible additional measurements. Navigation camera imagery of the back of Wopmay was collected in the afternoon, followed by extensive panoramic camera imaging the next morning. Unfortunately, due to slippage during the traverse, Opportunity didn't reach its desired vantage point, and the target was not in view. For sol 263, a decision was made to delete the panoramic camera imagery without downlinking it, since on board memory was tight and we already have complete coverage of the part of Wopmay captured. The new plan was to continue the rover's drive toward the back of Wopmay, and repeat the imaging observations attempted in the sol 262 plan. But as Opportunity drove toward Wopmay, it encountered a hidden obstacle: a rock buried under the sand that resulted in 100 percent slip for a good part of the traverse. Once the rover was clear of the rock, it continued from a point much closer to Wopmay than anticipated. Rover planners estimated that, at the end of the traverse, Opportunity was within 30 centimeters (just under one foot) of Wopmay, uncomfortably close! On sol 264, which ended on Oct 21, Opportunity backed away from Wopmay. The planned drive was 2.5 meters (8.2 feet) but the actual drive was 2.57 meters (8.4 feet). Opportunity is now in position to begin its drive toward Burns Cliff. Total odometry after sol 264 is 1,638.57 meters (1.0181 mile). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re Campo Sales Sale
Hi List, With all the excitement about the Campo Sales meteorite I have emailed Butch about the Campo Sales he had for sale. Butch told me Dude your to late. Some big dealer from Chicago or somewhere has already bought them all up and is planning to re sale them. Please I must have one of these New Campo Sales. Sonny __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 03-06-1962 Odessa Crater Described in Historical Society...
Paper: Odessa American City: Odessa, Texas Date: Sunday, March 5, 1961 Page: 2 Meteor Crater Is Described To Historical Society Parley By JERRY HAYNES American Staff Writer At the third annual meeting of the Texas Permian Historical Society here Saturday, Glenn Evans, geologist in charge of a field project at Odessa meteor crater from 1939 to 1941, told the gathered historians that the crater was formed by an explosion when a huge meteor hit the earth. Craters fall into two groups. The first is an explosion, caused when a meteor hits the earth at a terrific speed. The second is a concussion crater, caused when a meteor hits the earth but does not have the necessary speed to exploded. The Odessa craters fall under both types, but the principle crater was formed around 20,000 to 25,000 years ago. There is no meteor in the large crater west of Odessa. This meteor was destroyed in the explosion caused by it hitting the earth. There are several large meteors buried around the crater, but they are only a part of the huge iron and nickel meteor that exploded. he said. The crater is located about 10 miles west and slightly south of Odessa. Evans was in charge of the University of Texas project that did extensive work on the meteor crater before World War II, and is now district manager for the Louisiana Land and Exploration Co. of Midland. Evans told the group that the Odessa crater was the second largest crater in the United States, second only to the crater in Arizona. During our work at the crater, Evans said. We found several meteors buried around the main crater. One of these meteors is now at the University of Texas. In his discussion about the crater, Evans said that in all the meteors found that no element had ever been discovered that was not found on the earth. This leads us to the conclusion that the entire cosmos is made of principally the same elements, he said. The Odessa crater is not one crater, but several. No one knows how many, because most of them have been covered up by dirt and sand, and are level with the surrounding formations. The historical meeting, held at the Wagon Yard Restaurant at Rimrock City, was opened with a discussion of the old Spanish trails through West Texas by Conrad Dunagan of Monahans. Dunagan gave a brief history of several Spanish expoditions through this area and in the 15th and 16th centuries, and explained some of the many difficulties these parties underwent. Mrs. Betty Orbeck of Odessa gave a talk on the U.S. Army expeditions that went through the Permian Basin. Mrs. Orbeck explained that the main trails in West Texas were formed by gold seekers passing through this area on their way to California in 1849. She also listed several army expeditions in this area that mapped and drilled for water during the 1800s. Carlysle Raht, Odessa author, presented a brief history of Jules Drew Henderson, pioneer resident who settled in Ector County in 1880. Raht, who listed his talk as Sandhills Buckeroo-Life of Julious Drew Henderson told of some of the experience of Henderson in his ranching career in West Texas. The final address of the day was from Barry Thompson, Andrews, who discussed the Massacre at Willow Springs. The massacre took place in the sandhills in Winkler County in 1870. The remains, buried in the sand, were discovered in the early 1900s. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 11-04-1981 Boy Sees Meteorite Land In Backyard
Paper: Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Wednesday, November 4, 1981 Page: 13 Boy sees meteorite land in backyard NORTH ADAMS, Mass. (AP) - A 13-year-old junior astronomer is the owner of a baseball-size meteorite that he watched fall from the sky and land in his family's vegetable garden. Anthony M. Sarkis Jr. an eighth grader, says he was adjusting his telescope in his front yard Halloween night when he spotted a red fire-ball shoot across the sky and disappear behind his house. Then he heard a boom as loud as a shotgun blast. When he went in the backyard to investigate, there, in the garden, was a crater a foot wide and 4 inches deep. And inside the hole was a glowing red rock. Sankis summoned his parents and called the police. He was later visited by Mayor Richard C. Lamb and William G. Seeley, a physics professor at North Adams State College. Not in a dozen lifetimes will you see this Seeley told the boy. This is a rare occasion. You should be proud of yourself. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 11-05-1981 Prof says meteorite is industrial debris
Paper: Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Thursday, November 5, 1981 Page: 22 Prof says meteorite is just a piece of industrial debris NORTH ADAMS, Mass. (AP) - An eighth grader who thought he found a meteorite in his back yard is the owner of what appears to be a piece of industrial slag, a Harvard professor said Tuesday. By no means is it a meteorite. said Dr. John A. Wood, a professor of geology involved in research on meteorites at the Smithsonian Observatory, which is affiliated with Harvard. He examined the baseball-sized object the boy said had fallen into the familys vegetable garden Halloween night. It is certainly nothing out of the ordinary and seems to be a piece of slag from an industrial process. Wood said. Anthony J. Sankis Jr., a 13-year-old amateur astronomer, had said he spotted a red fireball shooting across the sky as he was adjusting his telescope Halloween night. When he looked in the garden, Sarkis said he found a foot-wide crater containing a battered rock. The boy and his father took the rock to Woods for identification Tuesday morning after a physics professor at nearby North Adams State College agreed it may be a meteorite. During the weekend, a parade of curious people, including newspaper photographers, police and the mayor of North Adams, visited the Sarkis back yard to view the inch-deep crater. The family also maintained the object was still warm Sunday morning after a night outside, an occurrence Wood said was simply impossible. Im not into meteorites, but it looked very convincing to me. the North Adams State professor, William G. Seeley, said Tuesday afternoon. I told the boys parents to be very sure, because If it was a hoax it would be very easy to find out. On the plus side, both my sons had seen a red track in the sky about the right time. Something tripped in my mind when the boy said he was an amateur astronomer and had been reading about meteorites, but I wasnt sure whether he said he had been reading about then before or after he found the object and convinced myself that the latter has been the case. Its my feeling now that someone probably played a prank on the boy, Seeley said, although the way the thing was set up thats almost as hard to believe as if it had actually happened. (end) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-23-1990 Haag Tries To Sneak 37-ton Campo Del Cielo Meteorite
Paper: Daily Herald City: Chicago, Illinois Date: Tuesday, January 23, 1990 Page: Section I, News 3 Two Americans try to sneak 37-ton meteorite out of Argentina Associated Press RESISTENCIA, Argentina - Police nabbed two U.S. citizens who tried to make off with a 37-ton meteorite that had become a landmark of northern Argentina, a newspaper reported Monday. La Nacion said Jeffrey W. Smith, 31, and Robert Haag, 33, of Tucson, Ariz., were detained Sunday after police, told by residents the meteorite was missing, became suspicious of a small convoy that included a heavy truck with a winch. The meteorite measures 10 by 6 1/2 feet and was discovered July 8, 1980, 185 miles west of Resistencia. (end) I can almost imagine the police conversations... Police, the 37 ton meteorite is missing. Are you sure?. (fill in the line with answer) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com PDF copies are available on all newspapers posted today upon request. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NPA 01-23-1990 Haag Tries To Sneak 37-ton Campo Del Cielo Meteorite
Paper: Daily Herald City: Chicago, Illinois Date: Tuesday, January 23, 1990 Page: Section I, News 3 Two Americans try to sneak 37-ton meteorite out of Argentina Associated Press RESISTENCIA, Argentina - Police nabbed two U.S. citizens who tried to make off with a 37-ton meteorite that had become a landmark of northern Argentina, a newspaper reported Monday. La Nacion said Jeffrey W. Smith, 31, and Robert Haag, 33, of Tucson, Ariz., were detained Sunday after police, told by residents the meteorite was missing, became suspicious of a small convoy that included a heavy truck with a winch. The meteorite measures 10 by 6 1/2 feet and was discovered July 8, 1980, 185 miles west of Resistencia. (end) I can almost imagine the police conversations... Police, the 37 ton meteorite is missing. Are you sure?. (fill in the line with answer) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com PDF copies are available on all newspapers posted today upon request. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Martian Meteorite Measurements Give Information on Planet Evolution
http://www.yale.edu/opa/newsr/04-10-25-01.all.html Yale University News Release CONTACT: Janet Rettig Emanuel 203-432-2157 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] For Immediate Release: October 25, 2004 Martian Meteorite Measurements Give Information on Planet Evolution New Haven, Conn. -- Scientists in the department of Geology and Geophysics at Yale University have devised a method to precisely date the timing and temperature of a meteorite impact on Mars that led to ejection of a piece of the planet into space and its eventual impact on Earth. Meteorites are the main source of mass exchange between planets and carry with them characteristic clues about the nature and history of the planets or planetesimals where they originated, the impacts that dislodged them, and the time they spent in space. Kyoungwon Kyle Min, postdoctoral fellow in geology, reported an innovation for determining the timing and temperatures of ancient impacts that liberate meteorites from extraterrestrial bodies such as Mars. To measure both the age and thermal history of the piece of Martian rock, Min assayed the natural radioactive decay of uranium and thorium to the gas helium in these meteorites, and combined it with knowledge of how temperature affects helium loss over time. This (U-Th)/He dating method, used on single grains of minerals in the Los Angeles Martian meteorite gave a far more accurate picture than the conventional method of analyzing chunks of meteorite. The helium age of about three million years corresponds with the estimated cosmogenic space exposure age. According to co-author Assistant Professor Peter W. Reiners, The three million-year age of this meteorite is also important because other meteorites we're working on, including some Martian ones, are several hundred million to billions of years older. These methods allow us to better understand both the timing and dynamics of ancient impacts on other planets, and how these events relate to interplanetary material transfer. Scientists have long looked at meteorites to answer the question of whether there is now, or once was, life on Mars. They now can compare data from meteorites with the observations of space vehicles to learn more about past activities on the surface of Mars. Stefan Nicolescu and James Greenwood from Yale University co-authored the study supported by a grant from the National Science Foundation. Citation: Geology: 32, 677-680 (2004) # # # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campos Sales
Ola List, While Senhor Steve is busy spending his disposible income in Mexico this week, and being missed by the fan club, which will leave him much more enthusiastic about trading or otherwise purging his collection of yesterday's treasures when he gets back, I had a question not to beat the old horse Campos Sales... A while back some excellent directions to Campos Sales were posted on the list for all who were desperately trying to find some material from this locality. I followed those directions and ended up in a brachish field: Campos Sales L5 7°2'S, 40°10'W, 31 January 1991, 22:00 Local Time, A meteorite shower fell in a rural area ~18 km E of the village Campos Sales found in grainfields around two weeks later. Question: I was wondering how specimens from this fall compare to the Kendrapara H4-5 (formerly Orissa) from Kendrapara locality in Orissa, India which fell on 27 Sept. 2003. Rusting is conspicuous on the broken surface and may be attributed to the wet environment of fall., according to the Meterotial Society Buletin for the Indian fall. As both are Ordinary Chrondrites, and the Kendrapara, Orissa, India (H4-5) would seem to be similar in that it is a coastal tropical location, and known for salt water intrusion, just like the Campos Sales region. Both are near mangrove habitats. Further, the rainy season starts to peak during the quoted recovery time in Campos Sales, and to boot, Campos Sales sounds like it means Salt Fields in Portuguese. How stable is most material from Campos Sales, given that after only 2 weeks at most for recovery, shouldn't all exhibit jet black fusion crusts after such a short time? Saudades do México, Doug Bernd 2004-24-10 escribe: Thomas wrote: Campos Sales, not Campo Sales Anyway, it's all about s e l l i n g Campos - *sales* that is ;-) Best wishes, __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - October 25, 2004
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit's been mulling over 'Uchben' - sol 279-284, October 25, 2004 Spirit is healthy and currently investigating a layered rock called Uchben. Spirit is farther from the equator than its twin, Opportunity is, and it has much less available solar energy. Spirit's solar panels are pointed to the northern Sun, but Spirit is still only getting about 400 watt-hours of energy per day - enough to run a 100-watt bulb for four hours. Opportunity has been getting more than 700 watt-hours a day. The lower power supply for Spirit limits the rover's daily activities. On sol 279, Spirit was parked at the location where a second occurrence of a problem with the rover's dynamic brake relay anomaly had halted a planned drive on sol 277. Scientists took the opportunity to analyze disturbed soil in front of the rover. Spirit deployed its robotic arm, acquired images of the soil with the microscopic imager, and placed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on a new target, named TakeABreak, for an overnight integration. Sols 280, 281, and 282 were built as a single three-sol plan to execute over Earth's weekend. On sol 280, Spirit acquired morning observations of sky and ground with its miniature thermal emission spectrometer, took a panoramic camera image to assess atmospheric quality, and completed the overnight alpha particle X-ray spectrometer measurement. After a midday nap, Spirit did a tool change from the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer to the Mossbauer spectrometer and began an overnight integration on the same soil patch. On sol 281, Spirit completed the Mossbauer spectrometer measurement, took a midday nap, acquired three images of a nearby target called Coffee with the microscopic imager, and stowed the robotic arm. Spirit then successfully drove about 4 meters (13 feet) backwards, putting the target Uchben into the workspace of the robotic arm. The drive included straightening the right front and left rear steering wheels, which are the two impacted by a problem with the relay that is used in turning the steering motors on and off. The drive also successfully tested driving without use of the right front and left rear steering wheels to limit use of these motors while investigation of the malfunction continues. On sol 282, Spirit acquired measurements of the sky and ground in the morning with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, took the usual midday nap, and then made remote-sensing observations in the afternoon, including some navigation camera images for use in planning of future driving. On sol 283, after receiving its daily commands and acquiring a panoramic camera assessment of atmospheric quality and miniature thermal emission spectrometer measurements of the sky and ground, Spirit took a midday nap. In the afternoon, Spirit deployed the robotic arm and acquired 20 images of a target region called Koolik on Uchben with the microscopic imager. Spirit then deployed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer for an overnight integration. On sol 284, which ended on Oct. 25, Spirit completed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer measurement and then did a tool change to the Mossbauer spectrometer for a nighttime integration on Koolik. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Campos Sales
Ola List, While Senhor Steve is busy spending his disposible income in Mexico this week, and being missed by the fan club, which will leave him much more enthusiastic about trading or otherwise purging his collection of yesterday's treasures when he gets back, I had a question not to beat the old horse Campos Sales... A while back some excellent directions to Campos Sales were posted on the list for all who were desperately trying to find some material from this locality. I followed those directions and ended up in a brachish field: Campos Sales L5 7°2'S, 40°10'W, 31 January 1991, 22:00 Local Time, A meteorite shower fell in a rural area ~18 km E of the village Campos Sales found in grainfields around two weeks later. Question: I was wondering how specimens from this fall compare to the Kendrapara H4-5 (formerly Orissa) from Kendrapara locality in Orissa, India which fell on 27 Sept. 2003. Rusting is conspicuous on the broken surface and may be attributed to the wet environment of fall., according to the Meteoritical Society Bulletin for the Indian fall. As both are Ordinary Chrondrites, and the Kendrapara, Orissa, India (H4-5) would seem to be similar in that it is a coastal tropical location, and known for salt water intrusion, just like the Campos Sales region. Both are near mangrove habitats. Further, the rainy season starts to peak during the quoted recovery time in Campos Sales, and to boot, Campos Sales sounds like it means Salt Fields in Portuguese. How stable is most material from Campos Sales, given that after only 2 weeks at most for recovery, shouldn't all exhibit jet black fusion crusts after such a short time? Saudades do México, Doug Bernd 2004-24-10 escribe: Thomas wrote: Campos Sales, not Campo Sales Anyway, it's all about s e l l i n g Campos - *sales* that is ;-) Best wishes __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ohio Fireball Sighting (Cont'd.....)
Everyone- Not much new here(recognize the jet contrail photo from England if I remember right?) http://www.10tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=2472919nav=LUERSLJ0 Too bad I was in bed out cold. The main reporting area is where I live. If this turns out to be another Park Forest (I can only wish..) I would like to join some of you professional hunters in the search!!! Still have 8 days vacation coming this year and it could all be hunting it with you!!! Everyone have a good night Mike Groetz __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 018 howardite question
Hi Bernd, Madam Vesta seems not to be so differentiated, as supposed. I remember thwo Bilangas DIO, who had each an iron flake, in NWA1109 EUC-P there are some, as well as in the HaH 285 HOW. By the way the latter both, I still have for sale. HaH 285 between 50$ and 70$, depending on size, many 1mm thick cut slices with enormous surfaces. F.e an 1 inch long slice which has 0.99g, another 3.1cm x 1.3cm = 1.24g. Make me sick to see all other having fat chunks on their hps selling at 100$ and up, while this Howie is a TRUE find with a REAL tkw of 1236 gram. Another How I have, (not so boring concrete style, where nobody knows, it's an Euc or an How). It's looking dramatically wild, black, brown, white Euc-clasts. Fresh W1-2. Mike had a similar one, sold at 100 bucks, the Labennes have another at 125$/g. Again 1mm this slices - squareinchsurfaces at 2grams. And again now tkw-rip-off, as it's Dhofar 485 with complete find data. I'm selling at 44$-65$. Howdie! Check the dealers list. Show me a similar offer. By the way my NWA1109 and again in thin slices I'm selling at 15-20$/gm. Take a look on the dealers_list! (I know some other sites more, but for beginning) Mike 100$ Twelker 30$ Labenne 40$ Marmet 36.7$ PaulJim 50$ average...51.34$ Same with Zaklodzie Ungr, primitive enstatite achondrite. Myhy pricy is fihihihfty per gram. Polished. Small slices. Fectay/Bidaut 200$ Erich 69-100$ Elliott 200$ Jensen 90$ Eduardo 100$ Mike 200$ and the winner is: Vssiliev with a 500$ piece at 35$/g Brey 190$ Marcin 70-80$ average121.27$ Btw what happend to Gwilliam's hp? Jason Philips seems to work on his new site tooo Killgores' place isn't working neitherbuy their photographical catalogue, best picure book at the moment. Huh and my CK ! CK!! CK! Starting at unbelievable 8.75$ up to 20$ for thin sliclets. Some days ago I compilatet ALL CK-prices from WWW. Checked ofer 160 sites. Not a even similar low price to find. Most between 60 and 100$/g. If somone is intereted in, I forward the prices of list as well as a list of all known CKs. Can me tell somone from the list, what I'm doing wrong or is here somone who ever was not satisfied with the pieces I sent? I sold to more than 400 collectors, only one time I got a slice back (from a set, which I sent to select from). Here in Germany it's dark country, as I told before. People think all meteorites have to cost 1/g, if something is labelled with rare 4/gm. And again, dear US-collectors, it's no big thing to order from Europe (whenever I list something in US-ebay 93% of the bidders are from Europe). Shipment costs are affordable, in most cases 3$. You'll get your specimen within 7-10 days. I'll take it back, if you're not totally satisfied and pay the shipping back. Payment is easy, Paypal, check whatever. In most cases, if the seller is not named B.E., I'll ship the pieces in advance without payment. I won't run with your 50 bucks to Acapulco, I have to loose my good reputation. Gosh, I'm depressed today. No skol anymore. Martin PS: shall I demonstrate some prices of my other locations for sale? PPS: Do the people think, that my stuff is without any value, because I'm offering it cheaper than others? PPPS: Shall I emigrate with RalewMarcin to USA, sharing with that enthusiast his caravan with washer, travelling around, selling the stuff at US-prices?? S: I hate Campo, I hate Nantan, I hate unclassified W3-NWA-OCs, I just don't want to sell that stuff!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:02 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 018 howardite question Hello Listees and Listoids, When I was closely inspecting my interesting, little 2.02-gram Dhofar 018 slice from Serge, I found a conspicuous triangular shiny metal inclusion measuring 2.5 x 2.0 x 1.5 mm. I know that (traces of) metal has been found in a few howardites (basaltic eucrite clasts in DaG 669 have abundant FeNi metal) but I have never heard of or seen such a compact and solid FeNi clast in a howardite. Does anyone have a specimen of Dhofar 018 or any other howardite with such a large metallic inclusion? I also detected a troilite patch but when there is metal, then troilite is never too far away (the opaque minerals in the Chaves howardite, for example, contain abundant troilite). Nickel-ironly and troilitically yours, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Smth different: MUNICH Chiang Khan
I forgot, you may remember the Chiang Khans, the superrare Thai fall, which hit a fisherman in his boat, once advertised on that list. They are authentic. The finder still is hoping to sell them, as he needs the money urgently to bring up his planned AIDS-station and porc farm in the strewnfield. It's for charity. Unfortunately he made such bad pictures with artificial light. The crust is not brown, it's black!! They are aszonishing fresh (and not because they are oiled, as some do with other stones) http://www.meteorite-oliver.com/index.html Ask some professional dealers - they never would give it so cheap away, especially not as the tkw in the catalough is given with 380 grams. I have the stones here and could bring them to the Munich show, if someone would be interested in buying. So please take them. Martin (the whole story about theese finds on the hp). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Munich plan of the halls
Hi List, here you have a link to a PDF-file with the plans for all 3 halls with all stalls of the Munich fair: http://www.mineralientage.de/bilder/pdf_pops/Hallenplan_2004.pdf Cheeers Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Murchison
Hello all- I have three Murchison fragments available for sale and one up on eBay Available for direct sale $55 per gram for the two big ones (8.87 and 10.04 grams), $60 for the small one (1.22 grams) http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/robandcolleen11197/album?.dir=/d940urlhint=actn,del%3as,1%3af,0 If these sell out I will get more and takes requests on weights eBay http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=nakhladog Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lighting up the Sky Over West Virginia Ohio
http://www.wtap.com/news/headlines/1130446.html Lighting Up the Sky Katie Sabatino WTAP News (West Virginia) October 25, 2004 We didn't know (what is was). We thought maybe we were under attack or something, says John Huelse of Parkersburg. Fortunately, it wasn't a weapon, but instead a huge fire ball, specifically, a large meteor shooting Eastward across the sky. We were at work last night. It was about 11:15 p.m. We were sitting in the break area and all of a sudden it just became as light as day. The trail, it was kind of orange and white and of course the flash of light was kind of a fluorescent light, like bluish white, says Huelse. Astronomers believe the meteor was about the size of a piece of furniture. While meteors are common in our atmosphere, larger ones like Sunday night's are harder to come by. We pick up, the earth that is, picks up about five tons of meteor debris every day. It's not as unusual a phenomenon as you may think, says PHS Planetarium Director Fred Doak. Large meteors as bright as the one was last night happen about six times a year in this area, he adds. And while many missed the brilliant site, others were in awe of its brief presence. We were just, it was amazing. I mean, it had to be close! says Huelse. It could have been left over from the beginning of the solar system or it could have been just passing space debris, says Doak. But whatever its origins, it was a site to behold for all those lucky enough to see it. == http://www.nbc4i.com/news/3847532/detail.html Viewer Descriptions Of Flash In Sky Possible Meteor Spotters NBC 4 News October 25, 2004 COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The following are viewer e-mails to NBC 4 after they saw a bright flash of light in the sky Sunday night in Central Ohio. At 11:20 p.m. over in the sky northeast of Pataskala Ohio, we just saw a strange flash of light, it was blue-green, it lit up our street and then orange smoke (was) in the sky. I live off of Holt Road in Grove City. As I was driving home this evening around 11:15 p.m., I saw a bright flash of light, looked up and saw what looked to be a streak of fire that quickly dimmed. At first I thought the flash of light was lightning, but then I saw the streak in the sky. I've seen shooting stars, but this was extremely bright and I had never seen one burning out so clearly before. I was on I-270 driving and at approximately 11:18 p.m., I saw what was probably a large meteor that looked like it was traveling east and lit up the sky. My husband and I were driving in Pickerington toward Baltimore and we saw something amazing in the sky. It looked like something exploded, making a white flash, then the entire sky was glowing bright blue. We saw something that seemed to be burning, falling in the direction of I-70. The trail of the object was also glowing orange, and then it turned to smoke and dissipated. There was a flash of blue light in the sky, like an explosion! It was bright enough to light up my block. I was laying in bed last night looking out my bedroom window when I saw the blue light just beneath the crack in my window shade. It was like a turquoise-blue light lighting up the sky. The sight reminded me of a light bulb that had just burnt out after you turn on the switch except it was a pretty blue color. I was on I-71 North last night, maybe 40 minutes outside of Columbus, when the whole sky lit up a bluish-green color and then there was a giant flash of white. It looked like a firework, but my friend and I knew it was too far away to be a firework. We thought maybe it was a meteor or even an alien spacecraft. It was quite beautiful! I was returning home from a concert sometime after 11 p.m. last night. As I opened the front door to my house, suddenly the whole sky seemed to light up for a brief instant in a bright shade of blue. I turned around to face the eastern sky, and I saw in the distance a bright blue ball of light and a trail of white and yellow sparks emanating from it, streaking across the sky. It looks like an offshoot from a fireworks display, only clearly at a much higher altitude than fireworks -- and no sound. As the sparks trailed off, they left a faint, hazy glowing trail in the sky for several minutes. I opened the door and called to my wife to come and see, but by the time she made it out, the trail had
[meteorite-list] Largest single Pallasite?
Anyone know what the weght is for the largest SINGLE piece of a Pallasite? Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thanks, and Correo Questions
Hello List, A quick thanks to all members who sent me their observations and comments in regard to my recent post concerning my collection photos. I appreciate it guys! A couple of the photos were of a Correo specimen and the in situ shot just as I found it. This was a very exciting find for me. The 326g stone exhibits nice regmaglypts and even has remnants of a still-black-fusion-crust. It is oriented and displays sharp flow lines and lipping. I know that The Cat. of Meteorites is woefully outdated in regard to the TKW, etc. It states that About 35 fragments, totaling approximately 700g were found... I have had the honor of speaking to the initial discoverer of the strewnfield, Gordon Nelson. I have also had a few discussions about Correo with our own Steve Schoner. Finally, while hunting there in Correo, I met a very nice and intelligent family, the Lawrences, who live in the area and have found several Correos themselves. All of these folks have been helpful in providing interesting facts/info on Correo, but I would also like to pose a few questions to the list in general, especially since I know that several list members have hunted there, and may have done some research of their own. So, if any one (Bernd???) can help: 1. What is the best, current ESTIMATED TKW for Correo? 2. What is the weight of the largest known Correo specimen? ( I think someone told me they thought there was one of at least 2Kg ??? ) 3. What is the estimated terrestrial age for Correo? 4. Do Correos show a propensity for orientation, or are only a very few oriented? 5. Who of our members have hunted at Correo? 6. For those who have hunted there, what were the results? 7. Who has Correo as part of their collection? ( Perhaps these last 2 questions might help at least a little in estimating the more accurate TKW ???) Sincerely, Robert Woolard __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom
Here HERE! I second that motion. Please old wise and wonderful Proud Tom, grace us with your vast knowledge. Mark M. Phoenix AZ At least once every human being should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from a supermarket, that safety does not come from policemen, and that news is not something that happens to other people. - Robert Heinlein - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom Dear Proud Tom: Greetings comrade, and congratulations on your well-deserved 2004 Harvey Award. I'm sorry you weren't able to accept it in person. Steve Campo Sales sale now on Arnold Chicago USA! is keeping it safe for you, in a box under his bed, next to some radioactive Brahin. I emailed you a question ages ago -- a really important one -- and have yet to receive a reply. Oh woe is me! We need information, and by hook or by crook we'll get it. I think the Meteorite List truly needs your wisdom and nitric acid wit, oh wise Proud Tom. What with the American election coming up, the uproar about the alleged Campo Sales/Pultusk/Tessera de Bastardo fraud and all the rest of it, where is a collector to turn for reliable info and really good Photoshop caricatures? Gasp! I was speaking with Island Meteorite owner, Geoff Cintron -- just yesterday -- and he told me he would even consider re-joining the Meteorite List if Proud Tom were to post another one of his phantom websites. Whaddya say? = Geoff N., Tucson, AZ 85741 The Radioactive Collector Proud Tom Fan #0001 website url http://www.rathergood.com/punk_kittens/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad- Best Prices Anywhere
Dear List Members, I would like to draw your attention to some excellent values listed tonight on ebay. Raremeteorites normally lists on Tuesdays but not this week because the closings would fall on election day. Meteoritelab will be listing on Wednesday so auctions close the day after. Here are a few examples of some excellent values: This is a 286 mg slice of Dhofar 378. A very close-up image can be seen at this auction link showing the vesicles! At just 15 grams TKW this is one hard Martian to acquire. I relisted this specimen at the lowest price you will find anywhere due to a request from a List member: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280164860 This material is priced at less than $1.00 a gram and looks to be the same material others have been selling under the IMB designation and the so-called Rivers-of-Melt. If this is indeed the same material it is priced at fraction of where you will find it elsewhere. Here are two examples: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280172818 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280171765 This is the cheapest price you will find any achondrite, anywhere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280174740 NAU just received the type specimen for this example and has bumped up the classification date because they upgraded it to priority status since it is so very interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280176119 This is the lowest price you will find on Itqiy, anywhere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280166360 To see all auctions click on this link: http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=raremeteorites Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Best Prices Anywhere
Dear List Members, Second try at getting this to post, I would like to draw your attention to some excellent values listed tonight on ebay. Raremeteorites normally lists on Tuesdays but not this week because the closings would fall on election day. Meteoritelab will be listing on Wednesday so auctions close the day after. Here are a few examples of some excellent values: This is a 286 mg slice of Dhofar 378. A very close-up image can be seen at this auction link showing the vesicles! At just 15 grams TKW this is one hard Martian to acquire. I relisted this specimen at the lowest price you will find anywhere due to a request from a List member: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280164860 This material is priced at less than $1.00 a gram and looks to be the same material others have been selling under the IMB designation and the so-called Rivers-of-Melt. If this is indeed the same material it is priced at fraction of where you will find it elsewhere. Here are two examples: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280172818 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280171765 This is the cheapest price you will find any achondrite, anywhere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280174740 NAU just received the type specimen for this example and has bumped up the classification date because they upgraded it to priority status since it is so very interesting: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280176119 This is the lowest price you will find on Itqiy, anywhere: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2280166360 To see all auctions click on this link: http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=raremeteorites Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Planetarium Donations
Hello List, A few days ago, Mark Ford sent this post to the List: I am pleased to announce to the list, that Last Friday, Dave Harris and I (on behalf of the British an Irish meteorite Society which we formed earlier this year), presented The South Downs Planetarium with a substantial meteorite collection My congratulations and hats off to you guys! I had the pleasure of making friends with the former UALR Planetarium director here in Little Rock years ago. His name was John Williams. He was a very intelligent man, passionate in his appreciation for meteorites. He had the perfect voice for a planetarium lecturer, and I always enjoyed attending his shows. I became close friends with him and his wife, Jonthy. We shared many fun discussions about meteorites. My wife and I even went on one meteorite hunting trip with them to Correo. After three days searching, the only one found that trip was an ~ 30g specimen that Jonthy literally spotted out the car window as we were driving on a freshly graded road! As time went on, another good friend, Jerry Hinkle, and I have had the good fortune to find/trade/buy/build a modestly respectable meteorite collection. While visiting with John one day, the idea of us donating some of our meteorites to the planetarium came up. We all were excited about this project, especially John. ( I would like to give special mention and thanks to those collectors/dealers, particularly Marvin Killgore and Robert Haag, for trading with us to help diversify the collection even more.) Unfortunately, just as the whole project was coming together, John lost a valiant fight with cancer, and passed away. That pretty much brought the dream of having a Hall of Meteorites on campus to an end, at least for now. The interim planetarium director was a graduate student, who was also excited about the idea. But, with the tightening budget for the university, the decision was recently made to close the planetarium. However, a new state of the art planetarium is planned as part of an aerospace complex here in L.R. I am hopeful that perhaps the university will work with them to host the collection there. Anyway, below is a link to the Woolard-Hinkle-Williams Collection as it is now, if anyone would like to visit it. ( The site seems to have some broken links I'm afraid.) http://www.ualr.edu/planetarium/meteorites.htm Sincerely, Robert Woolard __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Largest single Pallasite?
Avalible for sale, in private hands, or ever? i know Serge had a 225 kg brahin that got sold to a fellow who now has it listed on ebay form time to time. Stan From: Matt Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [meteorite-list] Largest single Pallasite? Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:27:56 -0600 Anyone know what the weght is for the largest SINGLE piece of a Pallasite? Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA eBay user id: mhmeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Nininger Printing Press Images
Dear List Members, I thought a few of you might enjoy some images of Nininger's printing press and a few printing plates I found to be interesting while searching a treasure trove of collectibles. Both Nininger and Huss used this equipment to do their in-house printing. Most of their letterhead, ID cards, envelopes, advertisements, promotional work and some famous documents were all printed using this antique press. Below are two images of the antique Kelsey Excelsior printing press: http://themeteoritesite.com/PressView2.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/PressView3.jpg This is my favorite stamp showing Nininger's museum: http://themeteoritesite.com/MuseumStamp1.jpg I am supposed to ask ET for the meaning of this Christmas stamp: http://themeteoritesite.com/Christmas.jpg Some of you may have a copy this Canyon Diablo ID card: http://themeteoritesite.com/Meteorite.jpg So Tektites were blasted from the moon?: http://themeteoritesite.com/Tektite.jpg Museum Hours: http://themeteoritesite.com/MuseumHours.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/MuseumHoursClose.jpg Meteorite Study Kit: http://themeteoritesite.com/StudyKit.jpg Miscellaneous: http://themeteoritesite.com/AmericanMeteorite.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/AmericanMeteoriteLab.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/FourStamps.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/ThreeStars.jpg Some plates are on loan to a museum in Denver. When they are returned I will post images of them. I hope you enjoyed these images as much as I enjoyed digging through this stuff. All the best, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Thanks, and Correo Questions
Hello Robert and list, Robert asked.Who has Correo as part of their collection? I have a nice 93.8g Correo individual. It can be viewed at the following webpage. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colcorreo.html Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - October 26, 2004
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE DAY: http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_26.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
