Rép : [meteorite-list] NWA 1774 and NWA 3098 Rumurutiites
Hello All, Really the NWA 3098 looks like my NWA 1774 but it seems interesting to compare the both classifications. Here is the classification of the NWA 1774 by M. Denise from MNHNP: Classification R3.8/6-S4-W3. TKW 714g. Fa (mol%) : 7.63-40.14. Fs (mol%) : 0.38-39.81. CPX:Fs=29.61-15.70 Wo=9.29-39.47; OlV:NiO=0.12; breccia with shocked, sulfide-blackened zones; melted silicate clasts; where type 3 dominant chondrules are small and set in very fine matrix; altered sulfides. I'm working to update my website and in few days I will add some pictures of the NWA 1774 including thin section. Best Wishes, Philippe Thomas Meteoritica JD wrote: This meteorite (NWA 3098) looks a lot like some material I have. NWA 1774, R3.8 - 6 (not R5), 714 g TKW, Found 2002. Hello John, Jeff K., Stefan, and List, When Alex Seidel and I got this beautiful R5 from Stefan, we echanged several mails re: classification of this R5 because we both felt we were looking at an R3-5 (my mail to Stefan dated Wednesday, Feb. 25, 2004). My collection piece (4.9 grams) is a triangular slice with fusion crust, numerous chondrules and several angular and subangular light-brown clasts. Some clasts seem to be composed of unequilibrated material and are a deep black color with chondrules and mineral fragments enclosed. Some chondrules have a thin black seam and one chondrule is a tightly packed aggregate of worm-like pyroxene laths in a white groundmass of anorthite (not quite sure if it *is* anorthite). Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - November 8, 2004
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[meteorite-list] FS: Park Forest 172.30g
Still available... - Original Message - From: Brice D. Hornback [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FS: Park Forest 172.30g I am considering letting my Park Forest 172.30g half-individual go. My car decided the engine had lasted long enough and now I'm riding a motorcycle to and from work... and it's getting a bit cold. :) You all know the stories about Park Forest. This piece was recovered the day of the fall *BEFORE* it started raining. I was among the first to arrive at the site. This specimen has *never* seen rain or moisture and has been sealed in an air-tight container since the day of the fall. It is as perfect and fresh as the moment it was recovered. It was also the specimen that was seen on Fox News late that evening. Unfortunately, I had to leave that evening to get back to Indianapolis for work the next morning... so I left just as some others were arriving. Mike Farmer had just checked into a hotel about the time I left Park Forest. Here are some pics: http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Adventure.jpg http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Meteorite_a.jpg http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Meteorite_b.jpg I'm not putting a price on this piece. Email me *OFF LIST* with your BEST offer. This is one of the nicest pieces to come out of Park Forest and is absolutely museum quality. I would almost rather sell off my entire collection instead of this piece... and this may be the only time I *ever* even consider parting with it. Also, I will not be listing this on eBay and will only sell it if I get a reasonable offer. Don't think you're going to get this one cheap folks. Take care, Brice D. Hornback __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag
Hi All I was unable to attend the poster session yesterday but Jack Murphy was. Here is what he found; Thanks for sending me the information on the GSA poster. I met the young man and talked to him for some time. He has changed his abstract (although the printed and on-line version are not changed) and approach. New title is Preliminary Analysis of an Ultrarefractory Material from Granada, Colorado, USA. He has spent a lot of time this last year working on composition petrology of this foot ball-sized massand it has been a good learning experience. He understands that this sample may be slag and not a meteorite but he has wanted to follow through on his proposed undergraduate research methods. I am going to try and get him hooked up with a professional in the field who can advise him, perhaps even channel his interests into continuing work in meteoritics. You can post this to the list if you would like. Thanks. Looks like he saw the slag comments. Any comment. Mike Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Bill Jensen IMCA 2359 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] SALE
hello the list,i put on sale a very nice and huge slice of swedish siderite muonionalusta fine IV A found in 1906 norbotten ,sweden. this is a complete slice of 680 grs with crust around ,size are 20 cm x 15 cm, thickness 3 mm , she's polished and etched on the both side for show an exquisite windmanstatten pattern few several rounds shape and lamellaes of trioilite. This scarce european sideirte fell 800 000 years ago is rarely offer and more in this weight and size ,it's really a museeum specimen to have in a collection for price and pics contact me at the following adress [EMAIL PROTECTED] regards manuel __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag
Hi All, When I went to Houston to read and listen to abstracts I was surprised by comments made after the oral presentations. One or two questions were allowed after each presentation and in a few cases scientists expressed their disappointment that proper study protocols were not followed. Advice was freely given to those who obviously needed to do more work on their abstracts. It was like some were be admonished for doing less than acceptable work. In this case, two leading scientists commented before the oral presentation was to take place. This served several purposes. A fantastic claim was made public that a 3.2 kilogram achondrite meteorite had been found in Colorado that was presumed to be a Mare basalt from the moon. The veracity of such a statement should be brought into question because of the importance it represented. I feel it is irresponsible to present such data without collaboration from a qualify scientist. In this circumstance it caused a lot of excitement unnecessarily and served very little purpose. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag Hi All I was unable to attend the poster session yesterday but Jack Murphy was. Here is what he found; Thanks for sending me the information on the GSA poster. I met the young man and talked to him for some time. He has changed his abstract (although the printed and on-line version are not changed) and approach. New title is Preliminary Analysis of an Ultrarefractory Material from Granada, Colorado, USA. He has spent a lot of time this last year working on composition petrology of this foot ball-sized massand it has been a good learning experience. He understands that this sample may be slag and not a meteorite but he has wanted to follow through on his proposed undergraduate research methods. I am going to try and get him hooked up with a professional in the field who can advise him, perhaps even channel his interests into continuing work in meteoritics. You can post this to the list if you would like. Thanks. Looks like he saw the slag comments. Any comment. Mike Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Bill Jensen IMCA 2359 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag
Adam: You wrote what I wanted to say. I wholeheartedley agree. The proper channels should have been used before making such a claim, especially a grand claim like this. Changing the abstract title does little to add credibility to the parties involved; they screwed up and were obviously given opportunities to redo their research, but failed to take the advice of the meteoriticists who study planetary meteorites. How often do things like this happen, that shouldn't? Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag Hi All, When I went to Houston to read and listen to abstracts I was surprised by comments made after the oral presentations. One or two questions were allowed after each presentation and in a few cases scientists expressed their disappointment that proper study protocols were not followed. Advice was freely given to those who obviously needed to do more work on their abstracts. It was like some were be admonished for doing less than acceptable work. In this case, two leading scientists commented before the oral presentation was to take place. This served several purposes. A fantastic claim was made public that a 3.2 kilogram achondrite meteorite had been found in Colorado that was presumed to be a Mare basalt from the moon. The veracity of such a statement should be brought into question because of the importance it represented. I feel it is irresponsible to present such data without collaboration from a qualify scientist. In this circumstance it caused a lot of excitement unnecessarily and served very little purpose. Kind Regards, Adam Hupe The Hupe Collection Team LunarRock IMCA 2185 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Lunaite from Colorado is probably slag Hi All I was unable to attend the poster session yesterday but Jack Murphy was. Here is what he found; Thanks for sending me the information on the GSA poster. I met the young man and talked to him for some time. He has changed his abstract (although the printed and on-line version are not changed) and approach. New title is Preliminary Analysis of an Ultrarefractory Material from Granada, Colorado, USA. He has spent a lot of time this last year working on composition petrology of this foot ball-sized massand it has been a good learning experience. He understands that this sample may be slag and not a meteorite but he has wanted to follow through on his proposed undergraduate research methods. I am going to try and get him hooked up with a professional in the field who can advise him, perhaps even channel his interests into continuing work in meteoritics. You can post this to the list if you would like. Thanks. Looks like he saw the slag comments. Any comment. Mike Mike Jensen IMCA 4264 Bill Jensen IMCA 2359 Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Dhofar pairings
Steve and List, It is simply amazing the number of nwa's. Something like over 3000? I know that the dhofar number is not that high.But still high enough! It continues o amaze me the number of pairings that are being found. AMAZING!But as far as the dhofars,only it seems that the lunars amd mars rocks seem to have some pairings.NOT THE ORDINARY CHONDRITES.AMAZING! We will never know all the pairings of Dhofar or any other dense collecting area. The reasons are time, cost and interest. Martian and lunar meteorites are exceptions because of rarity and interest on the part of researchers. There isn't sufficient scientific interest to determine pairings for the huge quantity of equilibrated ordinary chondrites. While find locations are well-documented for Dhofar meteorites, proximity of finds is not a good discriminant for the purposes of pairing common meteorite types. Nor is weathering grade, shock to +/- 1 level, or equilibrated petrologic grade to +/- 1. A casual glance at Meteoritical Bulletin 87 which has five pages of Dhofar classifications from Dhofar 294-837 shows that there are many opportunities for unidentified pairings. Note that Dhofar 324 and 346 were identified as probably paired (based on proximity, shock, weathering, fayalite and ferrosilite), but one was classified H6 and the other H5. Dhofar 383, 385 and 386 are listed separately but have basically the same classification and were found quite near each other. And Dhofar 032, 036, 130, 132, 137, 139, 141, 142, 790, 791, 793, 798, and 801-804 are all indicated as being paired to one another (H6 S2-3 W2-4). 806, 812 and 813 could also easily be from the same fall. The pairings are in there -- they just haven't been identified. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FS: Park Forest 172.30g
Brice, That is one heck of a nice meteorite. Keep it...I say. Anyway, I can't afford it. A lot of people will look at that piece and say...that thing looks like it may of came from outer space!. Doo-doo-doo... Strange indeed, John -- Original message from Brice D. Hornback [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Still available... - Original Message - From: Brice D. Hornback To: Cc: Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] FS: Park Forest 172.30g I am considering letting my Park Forest 172.30g half-individual go. My car decided the engine had lasted long enough and now I'm riding a motorcycle to and from work... and it's getting a bit cold. :) You all know the stories about Park Forest. This piece was recovered the day of the fall *BEFORE* it started raining. I was among the first to arrive at the site. This specimen has *never* seen rain or moisture and has been sealed in an air-tight container since the day of the fall. It is as perfect and fresh as the moment it was recovered. It was also the specimen that was seen on Fox News late that evening. Unfortunately, I had to leave that evening to get back to Indianapolis for work the next morning... so I left just as some others were arriving. Mike Farmer had just checked into a hotel about the time I left Park Forest. Here are some pics: http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Adventure.jpg http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Meteorite_a.jpg http://www.cyberbound.net/Park-Forest-Meteorite_b.jpg I'm not putting a price on this piece. Email me *OFF LIST* with your BEST offer. This is one of the nicest pieces to come out of Park Forest and is absolutely museum quality. I would almost rather sell off my entire collection instead of this piece... and this may be the only time I *ever* even consider parting with it. Also, I will not be listing this on eBay and will only sell it if I get a reasonable offer. Don't think you're going to get this one cheap folks. Take care, Brice D. Hornback __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (no subject)
I have a very large meteorite sale ending tonight, ALL items started at one cent! Many items are still at one cent, and things like Allende for $1 gram! Go bid, they all start ending in two hours. Some items of special note: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2283597937 Perfect heat-shield oriented Sikhote-Alin. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2283199441 Beautiful NWA 1933 endcut. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=2283200847 Bencubbin piece. See them here. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteorite-hunter/ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoritehunters/ Thanks Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite price list????
Hi list.I have had this thought going thru my head for along time.I am wondering.Is there an OFFICIAL METEORITE PRICE GUIDE?Has anyone ever put together a price guide to direct us on how to pay for a certain meteorite?And if so,where do all these different prices come from?Who determines what price for what meteorite?I do not know if this has ever been brought up.I have never seen it in my 5.5 years as a collecter.Just thought I would throw it out there.Any thoughts?? steve arnold, chicago, usa!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list????
WE DON'T NEED ONE!!! Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com PO Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA ebay id: mhmeteorites - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list Hi list.I have had this thought going thru my head for along time.I am wondering.Is there an OFFICIAL METEORITE PRICE GUIDE?Has anyone ever put together a price guide to direct us on how to pay for a certain meteorite?And if so,where do all these different prices come from?Who determines what price for what meteorite?I do not know if this has ever been brought up.I have never seen it in my 5.5 years as a collecter.Just thought I would throw it out there.Any thoughts?? steve arnold, chicago, usa!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list????
Try this Steve, http://www.thomascave.com/Meteorites/Charts/splitstonelist.htm Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 4:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list Hi list.I have had this thought going thru my head for along time.I am wondering.Is there an OFFICIAL METEORITE PRICE GUIDE?Has anyone ever put together a price guide to direct us on how to pay for a certain meteorite?And if so,where do all these different prices come from?Who determines what price for what meteorite?I do not know if this has ever been brought up.I have never seen it in my 5.5 years as a collecter.Just thought I would throw it out there.Any thoughts?? steve arnold, chicago, usa!! = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 Illinois Meteorites website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite price list????
Deja vu all over again Didn't we just have a thread on this last weekwhich turned kind of ugly towards the end? __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Price List?????
I AM NOT GOING THERE AGAIN!!! Cj IMCA# 3432 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.cjsmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Literal Meteorite Price Lists...I got some--want em?
Hi All, Speaking of meteorite [dealer's] price lists, I have more than a decade's worth of them that I would like to see go to a good research home. I just never could throw them away, but frankly I will probably never get around to reading them again. So if someone out there could put them to good use, let me know and I will send them to you for your project. Just email me with your intentions and I'll decide who gets them based upon your explaination of their use. Personally, I think it would be nice to see someone build a database, or even just a spreadsheet of meteorites, prices, dealers, and dates of offerings. Even if just for the rare or important meteorites. Feel free to email either on or off list as I'm sure others might like to read your thoughts as well. Almost all the price lists are pre-internet offerings by major dealers around the world. They actually make a nice piece of meteorite collecting history before the Net and email. As far as current meteorite prices based upon lists of of a bygone world, sure, you can dream of the seemingly low prices of the past, but frankly, meteorites only sell for what people paid for them. You can ask or offer whatever you want, but till the money changes hands, asking prices are just that and little more. And, in fact, some notable falls and finds are actually cheaper today then they were half a dozen or a dozen years ago. Cheers, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Literal Meteorite Price Lists...I got some--want em?
This would be a good idea. So would archiving all of eBay's meteorite auctions. However, it's an enormous task: Let's see... 400 auctions per week times 52 weeks is around 20,000. Times 10 years, is about 200,000. With 300x400 images or 100k pixels times 3 bytes per pixel is 300k bytes per auction (minimum). Times 20,000 is 6 megabytes for one year, or 60 for 10. It's late. Someone please check my math. Maybe it is feasible? Especially by someone who can write the code to do this automatically. But not by me... And then what have we got? Does the fact that someone paid $100 for xyz two years ago mean that $50 is a fair price today? Or $200? Oh well. Actually, I think the collection of photographs would be worth much more than the collection of prices! Cheers, Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Suspected Sonic Boom Heard Over England
Hi, All, One of many sonic boom reports. Some things to bear in mind. National air forces always deny immediately that one of their planes are responsible. Notice that in this story that the RAF is investigating, but have already denied it was a military plane. What, then, are they investigating? They do so because pilots are not supposed to pop the sound barrier over the civilians and we all know pilots never do anything they're not supposed to, right? As was said in the story, There are regulations governing supersonic flight... And regulations are never broken! Some years ago, I spent a lot of time investigating a sonic boom in my region that was felt over an eighty mile area, a substantial event that broke some windows over a thirty mile wide area. Really big boom. Could well have been a meteor. After about a week of military denials, it turned out that it had been a test flight of a new plane with an enthusiastic test pilot from the plane's manufacturer. He hadn't reported violating flight regulations, of course, until the story wouldn't go away. As for civilian planes being incapable of causing sonic booms, that too is a myth. They are perfectly capable of doing so, but are not supposed to, an entirely different matter. In times past, all large planes were designed with the possible conversion to military use in mind. Many commercial planes in use today could easily go supersonic, but would the pilot and crew want to badly dent their careers by admitting that it had happened, even accidentally? (It's easier than you think...) An uncle of mine, a private corporate pilot, took delivery of a brand new Boeing 707 back when that plane was the very latest craft (1960). As it was to be a cargo carrier, it had no seating and no creature comforts. It was a bare stripped-down shell, all engines and fuel tanks. After having shaken down the ship flying from Seattle to New York, he refuelled and set out to fly from New York to Saudi Arabia non-stop, a long and tedious trip which he enlivened by travelling at a speed comfortable for the vehicle in this configuration. Almost all of his route was over ocean, except for crossing Italy, but then Italy is rather narrow and he thought it wouldn't really be a problem. He was quite surprised when what seemed to be the entire Italian air defense force was scrambled to intercept him as he passed south of Rome at 1120 mph. A lot of explaining to do. It seems they thought he might be a Russian bomber. A silly notion, as the Russians in 1960 didn't have any plane that large that could fly that fast. Then, there are the cases of the many sightings of a hypersonic experimental craft for more than a decade and whose existence is still thoroughly denied. But it's been seen, often over the North Atlantic, so many times and with such agreement in detail that you can go and buy a plastic model of this airplane that doesn't exist. A vehicle travelling at speeds of up to 5000 mph creates a sonic boom that carries for many hundreds of miles and whose extent and persistence is very hard to predict accurately. If only every sonic boom was a meteor about to deposit a fresh fall... But it ain't necessarily so. Sterling K. Webb - Ron Baalke wrote: http://new.edp24.co.uk/content/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnlinecategory=NewstBrand=edponlinetCategory=newsitemid=NOED08%20Nov%202004%2017%3A55%3A31%3A097 UFO boom - Unidentified Foreign Object EDWARD FOSS EDP24 (United Kingdom) November 8, 2004 A suspected sonic boom heard across north-east Norfolk today was not caused by a British aircraft, it was confirmed tonight. The loud bang, heard at least from Sheringham to Halvergate near Yarmouth, startled hundreds of people going about their daily business at around noon. But a Ministry of Defence spokesman said it was not a domestic fighter that caused the incident, although he was unable to confirm the source of the sonic boom. We believe there was a sonic boom, but it was not a British aircraft that caused it, said Lt Col Stuart Green. t was not one of ours. Whether the aircraft was European or American was not clear, but they would be the most likely suspects. But it would have been a military aircraft, as no civilian plane is capable of going fast enough to make a sonic boom. A spokesman for the UK Civil Aviation Authority said the now out of service Concorde was the only civilian craft that had ever been able to travel fast enough to create the phenomenon. North Norfolk MP Norman Lamb described how he had been sitting in his office in North Walsham when he heard an incredible boom. The building shook and like many people I was shocked. I thought 'has there been some sort of gas explosion?' Mr Lamb said he felt the disturbing incident begged questions that needed to be answered. He pledged to approach ministers for an
