[meteorite-list] GET OUT OF JAIL SALE
Hi All Please take a moment to look at these pictures of a large 35 kilo individual Seymchan Meteorite. Please note that I cut a small corner off this whopper to see what the inside consisted of. The cut surface on the smaller 2840 gram piece was polished and etched to Museum quality standards. The small piece is apx. 160mm x 105mm x 85mm in dimensions. The whopper end of this is over 32 kilos of gorgeous metal and pallasite mix. Please check it out on this link . http://Meteorite.photosite.com/Seymchan/Seymchan_35_kg-10.html I'm looking to partially recover expenses made on my last Oman trip. Which I spent a few days in jail and 6 weeks detained at my own expense . Believe me the VODKA is very expensive in that country !! I have well over 40 cents a gram invested in this individual (both pieces) and will consider all offers over that figure Here is some info about this meteorite. Two masses were found in 1967, total 323 kg. It was classified as a coarse octahedrite, bandwidth 2.0 mm(iron llE). We went there in June of 2004 to try and find additional pieces. During that expedition we recovered several pieces of different sized Seymchan individuals. Our recent finds show that a few pieces of this meteorite is comparable to Glorietta Mountain in that it contains NUMEROUS OLIVINE CRYSTALS It was a big surprise after cutting some of our initial finds to find that a few individuals contain olivine crystals and show a nice pattern. This meteorite is absolutely stable, will not rust after cutting. The linked pictures of this individual show it has a gorgeous highly unusual widmanstatten pattern and a lot of pretty olivine crystals. It is interesting that some individuals contain olivine while most others do not contain olivine. Some individuals have surface with fusion crust like Sikhote-Alin, some looks like Chinge, and some looks like Sikhote shrapnel. Right now the Seymchan meteorite is being researched and reclassified. It is very difficult to recognize which pieces contain olivine crystals and how much there are within without cutting them. Pieces with the olivine crystals are uncommon. This can be a good opportunity for someone to make a good profit on sliced up material. Please if you have some interests contact me privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] All the bests Enjoying My FREEDOM in Arizona! Ivan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: Question about meteorites in sand dunes
Darren wrote: Would it be these? Lumps of iron? Check. North Africa? Check. 1930s? Check. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/Day_the_Sands_Caught_Fire.pdf North Africa: *uncheck* Wabar is in Saoudi Arabia. That's not North Africa at all, it isn't even Africa (but Arabia, which is part of west Asia). - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test -- Please Delete!
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[meteorite-list] John's D'Orbigny Thin Section Pictures
John kindly wrote: I got one of these d'Orbigny thin sections from E.T. and I'm thrilled. It is a generous size and super quality. I took some pictures of it that you may view here: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_D'Orbigny_Angrite.html Bill kindly responded: Very Nice John! Thanks for sharing it. Hello John, Bill, and List, John, your thin section pics have always been high class but these are outstanding. A resounding bravo from Germany! Angrites look so modest but are a kaleidoscope of wonderful colors under crossed polars. Wish I had one of these thin sections with their multitude of brilliant white anorthite laths, with those colorful, zoned pyroxenes and olivines ... There are two tiny angrites in my collection (NWA 1670 and SAH 99555) but no angrite thin section(s) .. not yet ;-) Best Regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Thanks Mark! I second that. tett Owen Sound, Ontario - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hello list, Could we do with a little less anti-Steve posting, PLEASE? To those doing the posting, I think all of us know how you feel about this subject. Ask yourself, what effect am I having on Steve? If you think the answer is none, then why would you continue to bombard the list with updates of Steve's at times unusual postings? Of the 850 list members...most of us understand where you stand. And to be honest, Steve's e-mails are meteorite related. E-mails about Steve's e-mail are questionable. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] THANKS SO MUCH
Hi and good morning to the list.I just want to thank the people who continue to support me, despite all the NAYSAYERS out there who continue to harrass me for no reason except to BITCH about nothing.If I post something about any of my adds, 20 more will come and harrass me.Thinking that they are HURTING me.But you are not!You are only hurting yourselves making you all look like ASS'S.And to put it in perspective,like mike blood said, YOU HAVE A DELETE KEY.I have blocked some 20 emails from people who have harrassed me for no reason.And like mark said, everything else has been meteorite related.Tonight I am taking out my lovely wife to dinner, it is her birthday to day.So after a 9 hour day,I am going to enjoy a 3 day weekend and enjoy myself.1 week till mazatlan,mexico.Again thanks to all who support me. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re:[meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
ohoh many friendly this person Matteo --- Karin Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: You are number one idiot. K. From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karin Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:[meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:11:13 +0200 (CEST) who are the idiots uh? Matteo --- Karin Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Total agreement, Mark. Steve's posts are no annoyance to me but the dozens of complaint posts are childish. Note to Steve: Be sure to share your vacation photos to Mexico when you return and have a nice time away from the idiots. K. - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hello list, Could we do with a little less anti-Steve posting, PLEASE? To those doing the posting, I think all of us know how you feel about this subject. Ask yourself, what effect am I having on Steve? If you think the answer is none, then why would you continue to bombard the list with updates of Steve's at times unusual postings? Of the 850 list members...most of us understand where you stand. And to be honest, Steve's e-mails are meteorite related. E-mails about Steve's e-mail are questionable. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Agenda ti aiuta a ricordare impegni, appuntamenti e compleanni http://agenda.yahoo.it _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] 1 More Anti-Steve Posting
I try explain this on a example. When You sit in front of Your computer reading met-list post, You are not alone. There is small fly over You. For alot of time You not see or hear it. But then You start hear This start making in Your head hole, bigger and bigger. And finally You stand up, taking newspaper and start runing on Your room like crazy trying kill this ugly fly. But why ? Its only little poor fly that try to escape from Your room. It will not eat You or not destroy Your walls. here is the same situation. We not notice Steave emails as spam for alot of time, but finally this start disturb some persons. We try explain Mr Steave this situation, but it looks like he not take us serious. Noone say that Mr Arnold CANT send here any ADs. There is no problem to send ADs one time per week instead one time per day, so why he dont do this ? From my point of view he do not have respect to me and other list membes, in case we asked him to change frequence of his ADs. Other problem is that his ADs are not interested. For me, daily ADs can send Farmer, Hupes or Ralew. They have nice newly classified meteorites, nice photos that You can watch, learn something new etc. Unfortunatelly Mr Arnold micro pieces of polular meteorites have level of curiousity 0 (zero). His ADs have no comercial or collectors value, so I really dont understand why we must read them every day. Maybe Steave Defenders side can enlight me ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] possible Karelian fall
Hello everybody, Im looking for further information on the Karelian fireball sighting from tuesday 17th of may. Last available information was that the Finnish experts worked on plotting a final trajectory. I would appreciate information about any progress in this issue. If you are in contact with one of the researchers occupied with the investigation would you be so kind and forward this request? Thanks for your efforts in advance. Svend Buhl www.niger-meteorite-recon.de __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Planetary sale of exceptional specimens
Hi All... I am trying to raise some money to fill my gas tank so I thought I would put together some exceptional offerings to help with the cause. NWA 482 Lunar specimen with fusion crust plus NWA 482 thin section. Rarely offered with fusion crust: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535445054 NWA 998 Martian specimen with fusion crust plus NWA 998 thin section. Also rarely offered with fusion crust: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535472473 COMPLETE SLICE of DAG 735 Martian. Freshest of the paired grouping according to a German scientist who has studied them all. When was the last time you saw a complete slice: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535460841 Last COMPLETE SLICE of NWA 2046 Martian. I own the main mass and do not intend on cutting any more. This is a good opportunity to get it while you can at a reduced price: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535511234 COMPLETE SLICE of NEA 001 Lunar. Adam, Greg and I bought the nicest pieces of this meteorite a couple of years ago and this is the first time I have sold any. The only other piece I currently have is a half-individual and I have no current intentions of cutting it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6535521521 Need a digital camera cheap? Sony Mavica FD91, I took lots of meteorite photos in it's time but it is still in great shape: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7518718622 Thanks for looking guys ! Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Goodbye list!
Marcin, my last 2cents to this issue. Summary: List listen to the Fly-Fighter and Clairevoyant Martin Edmund Altmann: Soon all, who have smth for sale will claim equal rights for all. If Mr.Chicago is allowed to advertise daily or even more often, there is no reason for others not to do so too. We will have 500-1000 commercial emails by day. Then we can forget this list. Proposal: The two months before the last member will have left, I suggest, the list moderator, should ask for each ad 1$ fee, at least to honour his effort to have supplied us for so long time with that, what we'll have then to call in retrospective, once to have been the best meteorite forum on the globe. My personal view: on this list are almost all internet meteorite dealers and many dealer-collectors as well as collectors, who naturally have from time to time smth for sale. Imagine now, what will happen, if each of them would post daily his/her offers to the list and would give a note, if a specimen was sold? We would have several hundreds of emails per day, only with commercial contents. But, as I at least believe, this list was founded as forum to discuss topics about meteorites, to help, if someone has questions, to share interesting articles and literature, to keep the members updated about recent developments in research and actual observations of falls, to help to learn about meteorites, meteorite hunting, preparation and and and... For sales exist 6 more lists, where ads explicetily are welcome. Nobody will have anything against, if Mr.Chicago advertises there each day, why he has to molest so many members on this meteorite-central-list? Regardless of the person of Steve Arnold, Chicago - nobody is angry, if someone offers something for sale or trade, but not 30 mails per month, most containing even always the same specimens! Why for God's sake, he can't combine his offers in a single ad per week? To write every day an ad is unfair angainst all the dealers, who are disciplined and advertise sparsely even if they have immense amounts of material for sale and it's in my eyes absolutely impolite towards all those, who asked him so many times to reduce his spam, as they feel disturbed by this. Or in modern words: It's pure terrorism. Here, check this: Martin, without Buckleboo meteorite_sale 355 Members, Archives: Public Mailing list for posting wants/sales/trades of meteorites or other information or objects of interest to the meteorite collector. This list may be used by individual collectors. Dealers may post when new/rare/noteworthy* items are available. (*noteworthy includes price reductions of at least 25%) Ebay auctions may be advertised only if offering meteorite_sale list members free shipping and/or a discount of at least 5%. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteorite_sale/ meteoritesforsale 221 Members, Archives: Membership required The Meteorites for Sale List is a dedicated forum and marketplace for advertising meteorite specimens for sale, trade or wanted. Topical advertisements of equipment and accessories such as rock saws, display stands and meteorite literature are also welcome. As always it is your own responsibility to assess the integrity of those with whom you deal. More Lists for Rockhounds http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoritesforsale/ MeteoriteCollectors 201 Members, Archives: Membership required Meteorite collectors discuss meteorites and collecting. This group is open to EVERYONE interested in meteorites. Dealers are welcome to post sales. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MeteoriteCollectors/ meteoriteworld 105 Members, Archives: Public Would you like look for meteorites, sell your meteorites collection, or discuss with other meteorite researchers? Please Join the Meteorite World club. Here, there are the people enthusiastic in the meteorites like you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoriteworld/ eBayMeteorites 73 Members, Archives: Public This group is for eBay Meteorite auction sales and announcements. Authentic meteorites and related items only, and International Meteorite Collectors Association membership preferred. (see IMCA's site http://www.imca.cc/ ) Once a week, on Sunday 12:00 pm MST the moderator(s) will post this listing address to the Meteorite-List, but all users can, after they join post here at any time. Set your auctions to begin or end after 12:00 MST on Sundays, that way all can see beginning and ending auctions ...(more) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ meteoritesau 20 Members, Archives: Public Meteorites AU is an open forum for collectors and dealers a like to discuss meteorites here in Australia. Postings for Sales, Trades, Wanteds, related meteorite services, equipment and products are also welcome! Also please make use of our calendar for any up coming events of interest or for any major sightings in your area. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoritesau/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list
[meteorite-list] chicago steve on ebay
what are chicago steve's ebay names? i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Goodbye list!
Remain Martin, not go out from the list only for the faoult of a unique person not understand nothing when it explains him how it is the situation. Matteo --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Marcin, my last 2cents to this issue. Summary: List listen to the Fly-Fighter and Clairevoyant Martin Edmund Altmann: Soon all, who have smth for sale will claim equal rights for all. If Mr.Chicago is allowed to advertise daily or even more often, there is no reason for others not to do so too. We will have 500-1000 commercial emails by day. Then we can forget this list. Proposal: The two months before the last member will have left, I suggest, the list moderator, should ask for each ad 1$ fee, at least to honour his effort to have supplied us for so long time with that, what we'll have then to call in retrospective, once to have been the best meteorite forum on the globe. My personal view: on this list are almost all internet meteorite dealers and many dealer-collectors as well as collectors, who naturally have from time to time smth for sale. Imagine now, what will happen, if each of them would post daily his/her offers to the list and would give a note, if a specimen was sold? We would have several hundreds of emails per day, only with commercial contents. But, as I at least believe, this list was founded as forum to discuss topics about meteorites, to help, if someone has questions, to share interesting articles and literature, to keep the members updated about recent developments in research and actual observations of falls, to help to learn about meteorites, meteorite hunting, preparation and and and... For sales exist 6 more lists, where ads explicetily are welcome. Nobody will have anything against, if Mr.Chicago advertises there each day, why he has to molest so many members on this meteorite-central-list? Regardless of the person of Steve Arnold, Chicago - nobody is angry, if someone offers something for sale or trade, but not 30 mails per month, most containing even always the same specimens! Why for God's sake, he can't combine his offers in a single ad per week? To write every day an ad is unfair angainst all the dealers, who are disciplined and advertise sparsely even if they have immense amounts of material for sale and it's in my eyes absolutely impolite towards all those, who asked him so many times to reduce his spam, as they feel disturbed by this. Or in modern words: It's pure terrorism. Here, check this: Martin, without Buckleboo meteorite_sale 355 Members, Archives: Public Mailing list for posting wants/sales/trades of meteorites or other information or objects of interest to the meteorite collector. This list may be used by individual collectors. Dealers may post when new/rare/noteworthy* items are available. (*noteworthy includes price reductions of at least 25%) Ebay auctions may be advertised only if offering meteorite_sale list members free shipping and/or a discount of at least 5%. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteorite_sale/ meteoritesforsale 221 Members, Archives: Membership required The Meteorites for Sale List is a dedicated forum and marketplace for advertising meteorite specimens for sale, trade or wanted. Topical advertisements of equipment and accessories such as rock saws, display stands and meteorite literature are also welcome. As always it is your own responsibility to assess the integrity of those with whom you deal. More Lists for Rockhounds http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoritesforsale/ MeteoriteCollectors 201 Members, Archives: Membership required Meteorite collectors discuss meteorites and collecting. This group is open to EVERYONE interested in meteorites. Dealers are welcome to post sales. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MeteoriteCollectors/ meteoriteworld 105 Members, Archives: Public Would you like look for meteorites, sell your meteorites collection, or discuss with other meteorite researchers? Please Join the Meteorite World club. Here, there are the people enthusiastic in the meteorites like you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/meteoriteworld/ eBayMeteorites 73 Members, Archives: Public This group is for eBay Meteorite auction sales and announcements. Authentic meteorites and related items only, and International Meteorite Collectors Association membership preferred. (see IMCA's site http://www.imca.cc/ ) Once a week, on Sunday 12:00 pm MST the moderator(s) will post this listing address to the Meteorite-List, but all users can, after they join post here at any time. Set your auctions to begin or end after 12:00 MST on Sundays, that way all can see beginning and ending auctions ...(more) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eBayMeteorites/ meteoritesau 20 Members, Archives: Public Meteorites AU is an open forum for collectors and dealers a like to discuss meteorites
[meteorite-list] Can this be meteorite related?
Hi List, I was reading about Nickel and ran across this article about a new nickel deposit found in the NE and was wondering if it could be meteorite related, I really want to know. : ) http://pubs.usgs.gov/info/mwni_cu/#formation Thanks, Tom peregrineflier __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Goodbye list!
Not I will leave the list, the list will leave us. Remain Martin, not go out from the list only for the faoult of a unique person not understand nothing when it explains him how it is the situation. Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Can this be meteorite related?
Hi List, in case you are wondering why I think this could be meteorite related. Not only do they have a new Nickel deposit by Lake Superior but also at Sudbury! http://www.datametallogenica.com/pages/newsflashes/newnickel08072004.htm So I was wondering, if they have a NI deposit at a known impact site, if Lake Superior could be an impact site too? If you look at figure 4 on http://pubs.usgs.gov/info/mwni_cu/#formation it looks like a strewn field map! : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier - Original Message - From: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: met list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Can this be meteorite related? Hi List, I was reading about Nickel and ran across this article about a new nickel deposit found in the NE and was wondering if it could be meteorite related, I really want to know. : ) http://pubs.usgs.gov/info/mwni_cu/#formation Thanks, Tom peregrineflier __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS SO MUCH
HI BIG SSTTEEVVEEYYY AKA RICHARD (DICK) ARNOLD: And greetings list. NAYSAYER # 1 here. A couple of key points for the handful of live and let live Stormbringer supporters before I pick apart NITWIT BOY . STTEEVVEEYY the DIMWIT continues to terrorize this list (I agree with Martin,Marcin, and many, many others), and not surprisingly, we have a handful of people that support him and his spamming activities, his less than honest representations of meteorites sales, his posting of inane details of his hideous life, and his unresearched DOPEY questions. Yet, the deterioration of the list that they whine about is not brought on by people like me and MANY others that don't like SSTTEEVVEY. It is brought to the list by the KING OF DENIAL, SSTTEEVVEY DDIICKEY AARRNNOLD. Remember, if the LIST CLOWN does not post, neither do I and many others. And, if he has the right to spam the list, post details about his ridiculous life, continually ask stupid questions, practice misrepresentative selling (do recall that Dopey is one of 2 or 3 people to ever get booted from the IMCA...ya think there might be something to it???), THEN I (and others) HAVE THE RIGHT AS LIST MEMBERS TO TRY AND STOP THE DEGRADATION OF THE LIST BY CALLING SSTTEVEEY WHAT HE REALLY IS, AND THAT IS A LIST CANCER. And, if the SSTEEVEEY supporters (all 4 of them) don't like it, try writing SSTTEEVVEY and telling him to stop posting all his crap. Then it will get very quiet. If he doesn't stop, and you still don't like it, TOO BAD. You and SSTTEEVY go start your own list. Until then, I will post whenever I like. And PS, if people don't think this has anything to do with meteorites, think again. This is the one meteorite forum in the world that aggregates the greatest minds in many scientific disciplines, and I and many others are here for the amazing information. AND THEN WE HAVE BIG SSTTEEVVEEY. Believe me, I would like to stop posting, because that would mean SSTTEEVVEEYY ARNOLD stopped his nonsense. EVERY TIME I POST about this goof, I get between 20 and 75 SEPARATE individual messages thanking me for at least TRYING to stop him. A FEW COMMENTS ON SSTTEEVVEEY'S LATEST MORON MAIL: Hi and good morning to the list.I just want to thank the people who continue to support me (ALL 4 OF THEM), despite all the NAYSAYERS (THE REST OF THE LIST!) out there who continue to harass (WHOS HARASSING WHO??? YOU HARASS SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY WITH YOUR POSTS) me for no reason (NO REASON???ARE YOU SERIOUS??? YOU ARE IN DENIAL!! DO YOU THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN SO STRONGLY ABOUT YOU ARE DOING IT FOR KICKS? YOU ARE RUINING THE LIST AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM RUINING THE LIST,,GET IT?) except to BITCH about nothing (HERE WE GO AGAIN. LISTEN UP DENIAL BOY, PEOPLE LOVE METEORITES, BUT NOT YOU AND YOUR INANE POSTS.) If I post something about any of my adds (SPELL CHECK MUST BE BROKEN AGAIN), 20 more will come and harass me (GEE SSTTEEVVEY, DO YOU THINK THEY THEY HAVE UNFAIRLY TARGETED A GOOD AND UPSTANDING LIST MEMBER?? OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF YOUR CRAP??? BELIEVE ME, IT IS THE LATTER) .Thinking that they are HURTING me.But you are not! (YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS TOUGH TO CONVINCE SOMEONE LIKE YOU (NO BRAIN) THROUGH TRADITIONAL MEANS THAT THEY ARE RUINING A FINE METEORITE LIST) You are only hurting yourselves making you all look like ASS'S (SORRY BIGGY STTEEVEEY, YOU'VE CORNERED THE LOOKING LIKE AN ASS MARKET, BIG BOY. NO ONE LOOKS LIKE A BIGGER ASS THAN YOU. CHECK OUT YOUR WEB HOME PAGE PICTURE FOR INSTANT CLARIFICATION SOMETIME). And to put it in perspective,like mike blood (NAMEDROPPING AGAIN FOR EFFECT) said, YOU HAVE A DELETE KEY (WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO???).I have blocked some 20 emails from people who have harassed me for no reason (THERES THAT NO REASON PART AGAIN! YOU MUST HAVE THE BRAIN OF A LADYBUG. HOW CAN YOU WRITE THAT AND MEAN IT? I WILL TELL YOU WHY... YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LIST OR THE PEOPLE ON IT, OR YOU WOULD HAVE CHANGED)..And like mark said, everything else has been meteorite related (THATS A LOAD OF CRAP. READ YOUR NEXT SENTENCE DOPEY!). Tonight I am taking out my lovely wife to dinner, it is her birthday to day.So after a 9 hour day,I am going to enjoy a 3 day weekend and enjoy myself.1 week till mazatlan,mexico. (IS THIS LIST RELATED? NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR THE DETAILS OF YOUR RIDICULOUS LIFE. WRITE DIRECTLY TO THE 4 PEOPLE WHO CARE OFF LIST, AND SPARE THE LIST!!!) Again thanks to all (4 PEOPLE) who support me. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Major Meteorite Database Interface Update! GREAT!
Wow! The Museum of Natural History in London has made a major update of their Meteorite Catalogue Database online interface. Wonderful! This database interface makes data mining and just plain exploring way more fun and productive than the old interface. http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/metcat//indexmany.dsml Three Cheers For Monica and the Crew! Cheers, Cheers, Cheers! Martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Major Meteorite Database Interface Update! GREAT!
It is very nice and very user-friendly! Congrats!!! I guess that there are still some updates to come, aren't there? Kind regards, Frederic Beroud http://www.meteoriteshow.com IMCA member # 2491 (http://www.imca.cc/) - Original Message - From: Martin H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Major Meteorite Database Interface Update! GREAT! Wow! The Museum of Natural History in London has made a major update of their Meteorite Catalogue Database online interface. Wonderful! This database interface makes data mining and just plain exploring way more fun and productive than the old interface. http://internt.nhm.ac.uk/jdsml/research-curation/projects/metcat//indexmany. dsml Three Cheers For Monica and the Crew! Cheers, Cheers, Cheers! Martin __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS SO MUCH
Against my better conscience I am going to say that a list cancer is about as succinct as one can describe Ssteevee.and the itsy-bitsy support group that follows the sinking ship. Oh, Meteorite RELATED...anyone heard about the new Wyoming crater location yet Tom, most of that nickel related to impact sites is very very old, like in the 3-4.5 billion years old and back 4 billion years ago there wasn't much here but some very nasty volcanic oozing going on. And... tonight I am taking my slutty girlfriend out to McDonalds for dinner and out dirty dancing, it's her juvenile kids birthday. He hunts meteorites too;-() Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI BIG SSTTEEVVEEYYY AKA RICHARD (DICK) ARNOLD: And greetings list. NAYSAYER # 1 here. A couple of key points for the handful of live and let live Stormbringer supporters before I pick apart NITWIT BOY . STTEEVVEEYY the DIMWIT continues to terrorize this list (I agree with Martin,Marcin, and many, many others), and not surprisingly, we have a handful of people that support him and his spamming activities, his less than honest representations of meteorites sales, his posting of inane details of his hideous life, and his unresearched DOPEY questions. Yet, the deterioration of the list that they whine about is not brought on by people like me and MANY others that don't like SSTTEEVVEY. It is brought to the list by the KING OF DENIAL, SSTTEEVVEY DDIICKEY AARRNNOLD. Remember, if the LIST CLOWN does not post, neither do I and many others. And, if he has the right to spam the list, post details about his ridiculous life, continually ask stupid questions, practice misrepresentative selling (do recall that Dopey is one of 2 or 3 people to ever get booted from the IMCA...ya think there might be something to it???), THEN I (and others) HAVE THE RIGHT AS LIST MEMBERS TO TRY AND STOP THE DEGRADATION OF THE LIST BY CALLING SSTTEVEEY WHAT HE REALLY IS, AND THAT IS A LIST CANCER. And, if the SSTEEVEEY supporters (all 4 of them) don't like it, try writing SSTTEEVVEY and telling him to stop posting all his crap. Then it will get very quiet. If he doesn't stop, and you still don't like it, TOO BAD. You and SSTTEEVY go start your own list. Until then, I will post whenever I like. And PS, if people don't think this has anything to do with meteorites, think again. This is the one meteorite forum in the world that aggregates the greatest minds in many scientific disciplines, and I and many others are here for the amazing information. AND THEN WE HAVE BIG SSTTEEVVEEY. Believe me, I would like to stop posting, because that would mean SSTTEEVVEEYY ARNOLD stopped his nonsense. EVERY TIME I POST about this goof, I get between 20 and 75 SEPARATE individual messages thanking me for at least TRYING to stop him. A FEW COMMENTS ON SSTTEEVVEEY'S LATEST MORON MAIL: Hi and good morning to the list.I just want to thank the people who continue to support me (ALL 4 OF THEM), despite all the NAYSAYERS (THE REST OF THE LIST!) out there who continue to harass (WHOS HARASSING WHO??? YOU HARASS SEVERAL HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY WITH YOUR POSTS) me for no reason (NO REASON???ARE YOU SERIOUS??? YOU ARE IN DENIAL!! DO YOU THINK THAT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT COMPLAIN SO STRONGLY ABOUT YOU ARE DOING IT FOR KICKS? YOU ARE RUINING THE LIST AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO STOP YOU FROM RUINING THE LIST,,GET IT?) except to BITCH about nothing (HERE WE GO AGAIN. LISTEN UP DENIAL BOY, PEOPLE LOVE METEORITES, BUT NOT YOU AND YOUR INANE POSTS.) If I post something about any of my adds (SPELL CHECK MUST BE BROKEN AGAIN), 20 more will come and harass me (GEE SSTTEEVVEY, DO YOU THINK THEY THEY HAVE UNFAIRLY TARGETED A GOOD AND UPSTANDING LIST MEMBER?? OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF YOUR CRAP??? BELIEVE ME, IT IS THE LATTER) .Thinking that they are HURTING me.But you are not! (YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS TOUGH TO CONVINCE SOMEONE LIKE YOU (NO BRAIN) THROUGH TRADITIONAL MEANS THAT THEY ARE RUINING A FINE METEORITE LIST) You are only hurting yourselves making you all look like ASS'S (SORRY BIGGY STTEEVEEY, YOU'VE CORNERED THE LOOKING LIKE AN ASS MARKET, BIG BOY. NO ONE LOOKS LIKE A BIGGER ASS THAN YOU. CHECK OUT YOUR WEB HOME PAGE PICTURE FOR INSTANT CLARIFICATION SOMETIME). And to put it in perspective,like mike blood (NAMEDROPPING AGAIN FOR EFFECT) said, YOU HAVE A DELETE KEY (WHY SHOULD WE HAVE TO???).I have blocked some 20 emails from people who have harassed me for no reason (THERES THAT NO REASON PART AGAIN! YOU MUST HAVE THE BRAIN OF A LADYBUG. HOW CAN YOU WRITE THAT AND MEAN IT? I WILL TELL YOU WHY... YOU HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LIST OR THE PEOPLE ON IT, OR YOU WOULD HAVE CHANGED)..And like mark said, everything else has been meteorite related (THATS A LOAD OF CRAP. READ YOUR NEXT SENTENCE DOPEY!). Tonight I am taking out my lovely wife to dinner, it is her birthday to day.So after a 9 hour day,I am going to
[meteorite-list] Online Paper About Sept. 2003 Orissa (India) Meteorite Shower
An article about the September 27, 2003 meteorite shower and the meteorites recovered from it is available online for downloading. The article is: Mohanty, M., Sahoo, K. C., Jena, S. K., Dash, P. C., and Mohanty, B.K., 2004, Meteoritic shower in coastal Orissa. Current Science. vol. 28, no. 4, pp. 228-230 (25 August 2004) A PDF file of this article can downloaded from: http://www.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/aug252004/428.pdf Table of Contents for vol. 28, no. 4 (25 August 2004) issue of Current Science is at: http://www.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/aug252004/contents.htm Best Regards, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Two Questions
Hello Mark, Sterling, Eric, Bob and List, Thanks very much for the infor regarding Martian atmospheric gasses and CRE determination. I do appreciate the input. Thanks also for the reference so I can follow-up on these interesting (to me) topics. -Walter Branch - - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Two Questions Hello Walter What I learned in school about vulanism is that the atmosphere on earth was created by volcanic action, (primarily the water content with carbon dioxide, and of course, the acids). Entrapped gases that researchers refer to may be like these basic gases along with some exotics. Or, that the entrapped gases reflect the atmosphere that they see today plus those gases that outgas (and lost due to too little gravity) once exposed. As far as I know from cosmic ray penetration, I would have to assume that there is some measure of extrapolation involved to arrive at the original size of the rock prior to atmospheric entry. This is much the same as trying to age glassy rocks based on the rind caused by weathering. The determinations have to be based on local conditions, there is always some measure of error because of loss of rock mass, and conditions change over time. And because the time spent exposed to cosmic rays are based on penetration depths, and all we have are models for the mathmatics to determine ablation (no one has a true measure of the size of any given meteorite prior to entry), any age determined has to be a best guess. Mark Ferguson On May 24, 1:45 pm Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second try at posting this email: Hello Everyone, I been researching but I can't find the answers to two questions. First, what is the mechanism by which atmospheric gasses are trapped in the formation of basalts? I have been doing some lit reviews on martian meteorites and I find it interesting that some were formed in magma chambers deep undergound. indeed, some are thought to have formed several kilometers down. How does the Martian atmosphere get trapped in cooling rock so far underground. Second, when determining Cosmic Ray Exposure ages, can atmospheric fragmentation and ablation of a meteoroid affect the results from such testing and if so, how are fragmentation and ablation taken into consideration when determiniing CREs? Thanks to anyone who can help me understand these processes. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Hi Mark and all, Perhaps if the anti-spam Steve posts were aimed directly to Steve email it would be better. However I feel if Steve is allowed to post all of these ads then certainly people who don't agree should be allowed to post their concerns related to his spams. (and there is certainly others who violate the list rules related to ad posting). I think that people should be aware that steve has a nasty habit of breaking his specimens. Although I know of others who do this, I doubt that steve is using a breaker. I have no doubt that steve has ruin a number of good specimens and the people who support him, buy from him, take him up on his free offers, are supporting this vandalism to priceless meteorites. You are in effect in partnership with someone who is destroying some fine meteorites. If Steve were a real dealer, he would invest in a breaking device, or saw and cut these specimens rather than commit the horrible demise of some fine specimens. People that sell to him and people who buy or accept free offers have no real interest in meteorites. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Online Paper About Sept. 2003 Orissa (India) Meteorite Shower
This is, of course, formally named the Kendrapara meteorite, http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=12276. jeff t 01:46 PM 5/27/2005, Paul H wrote: An article about the September 27, 2003 meteorite shower and the meteorites recovered from it is available online for downloading. The article is: Mohanty, M., Sahoo, K. C., Jena, S. K., Dash, P. C., and Mohanty, B.K., 2004, Meteoritic shower in coastal Orissa. Current Science. vol. 28, no. 4, pp. 228-230 (25 August 2004) A PDF file of this article can downloaded from: http://www.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/aug252004/428.pdf Table of Contents for vol. 28, no. 4 (25 August 2004) issue of Current Science is at: http://www.iisc.ernet.in/~currsci/aug252004/contents.htm Best Regards, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay final call for 129g Estherville
Hi, Last call for the Estherville 129g slice from fernlea - still only about $2 30 per gram! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6534167528 thanks dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Hello Al and list, Al note: Perhaps if the anti-spam Steve posts were aimed directly to Steve email it would be better. It would put a lot less hateful e-mails in my inbox, and was the note of my concern. However I feel if Steve is allowed to post all of these ads then certainly people who don't agree should be allowed to post their concerns related to his spams. I am surprized you would support a hate mod on a scientific forum. Others should be allowed to express their opinions. However, I bet if someone counted the archives...there are about 2000-3000 of these e-mails, (no joke). I think most would agree that there has been no censorship in this reguard. I will also note, that Steve's e-mails are not spam. Spam is a legal word, it means unsoliciated e-mail. You can not get unsolicated e-mail from a group you have joined. Yes, I do find them annoying quite at times. Yet, If I felt them annoying all the time I would simply block him. This is pretty simple. It takes 3 to 4 clicks of your mouse to block someone. If Steve's e-mails upset you, block them, delete them or the like, complaining to the list for the 3000th time, seems foolish to me. If you are one that gets upset everytime you read one of his e-mailswell don't read them. Those that keep attacking Steve look worst then Steve from my side of the fence. If I was to boycott some list members, I would do so accordingly. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Sorry for piggy backing in on this post, but for some reason my last 3 attempts have failed to get through as happens here at times... I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hi Mark and all, Perhaps if the anti-spam Steve posts were aimed directly to Steve email it would be better. However I feel if Steve is allowed to post all of these ads then certainly people who don't agree should be allowed to post their concerns related to his spams. (and there is certainly others who violate the list rules related to ad posting). I think that people should be aware that steve has a nasty habit of breaking his specimens. Although I know of others who do this, I doubt that steve is using a breaker. I have no doubt that steve has ruin a number of good specimens and the people who support him, buy from him, take him up on his free offers, are supporting this vandalism to priceless meteorites. You are in effect in partnership with someone who is destroying some fine meteorites. If Steve were a real dealer, he would invest in a breaking device, or saw and cut these specimens rather than commit the horrible demise of some fine specimens. People that sell to him and people who buy or accept free offers have no real interest in meteorites. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Hello Bill and List, Some of you might not know Bill Southern since he is relatively new to the Meteorite List. I know him personally. He's a really great guy and is one of the most accommodating and selfless people I know. Take note of what he's saying - I know he had to twist his own arm quite hard to speak up on this issue. Maybe those of you that shake your finger at the naysayers need to take a look at this Steve issue from a different angle. There are many of us within the meteorite community who think it is our responsibility, in part, to make sure the public is dealt with fairly and honestly and that is one of the reasons Steve Arnold is scrutinized the way he is. I find it hard to believe that those of you that openly support Steve because he gave you a freebie or he acts like a generous benefactor refuse to look at his other activities without your rose colored glasses. Sure, there are some things about Steve that make him a likeable guy to some people, but I know many others who have had negative dealings with him and their voices have a right to be heard too. Finally, I don't think any of you anti-naysayer have the right to censor those who speak out about wrong doing or excessive self promotion by a list member. Do you condone the deceit and dishonesty? Feel free to comment, JKGwilliam At 11:43 AM 5/27/2005, Bill Southern wrote: Sorry for piggy backing in on this post, but for some reason my last 3 attempts have failed to get through as happens here at times... I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hi Mark and all, Perhaps if the anti-spam Steve posts were aimed directly to Steve email it would be better. However I feel if Steve is allowed to post all of these ads then certainly people who don't agree should be allowed to post their concerns related to his spams. (and there is certainly others who violate the list rules related to ad posting). I think that people should be aware that steve has a nasty habit of breaking his specimens. Although I know of others who do this, I doubt that steve is using a breaker. I have no doubt that steve has ruin a number of good specimens and the people who support him, buy from him, take him up on his free offers, are supporting this vandalism to priceless meteorites. You are in effect in partnership with someone who is destroying some fine meteorites. If Steve were a real dealer, he would invest in a breaking device, or saw and cut these specimens rather than commit the horrible demise of some fine specimens. People that sell to him and people who buy or accept free offers have no real interest in meteorites. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] THANKS SO MUCH
Hi Steve, Please do not use my comments to justify ignoring the overwhelming number of complaints about your continual advertising on the list. It is clearly in violation of list rules. Just because you do not bother me, personally, does not make it ok. You have taken advertising on the list to an absurd level. One person pointed out you posted ads 22 times in the first 22 days of May. Personally, I restrict my own advertising to the list as tightly as possible - and as often as not, related to topics that naturally arise on the list. I TRY to keep it to 6 times a YEAR or so, though I suspect it sometimes creeps up to a dozen times a year. I think people who advertise on the list once a week are excessive. You are so far over the top it defies the imagination. The point is, I exercise restraint out of respect for the intention of this list and consideration of the readers. Your actions, especially in the last few weeks, do not. You have been in violation of the rules and you have rudely ignored complaints from a huge number of list members, many of whom were very polite in asking you to conform to list protocol. So, Steve, do not use my name in justifying inconsiderate and abusive use of the list. It only goes to show how poorly you interpret input. Just because I respect you as a human being and do not think you should be abused like a dog does NOT mean I approve of all of your actions. And just because many of the people who have given you feedback on your obscene level of advertising have been demeaning of you, does not mean their objections are unfounded. You should also note that at least half of the negative feedback you have gotten has been extremely polite - even gentle. But you ignore it all. Steve, you have some great qualities, but often strengths can also be weaknesses. One of your strengths is to not allow others to define you. That is a great strength. HOWEVER, it becomes one of one's greatest weaknesses when one refuses to consider input - even when it comes to you from an overwhelming number of people. If you choose to stay in denial in spite of a deluge of feedback, that is your business. But do NOT cite me in your justification! Best wishes, Michael on 5/27/05 3:38 AM, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi and good morning to the list.I just want to thank the people who continue to support me, despite all the NAYSAYERS out there who continue to harrass me for no reason except to BITCH about nothing.If I post something about any of my adds, 20 more will come and harrass me.Thinking that they are HURTING me.But you are not!You are only hurting yourselves making you all look like ASS'S.And to put it in perspective,like mike blood said, YOU HAVE A DELETE KEY.I have blocked some 20 emails from people who have harrassed me for no reason.And like mark said, everything else has been meteorite related.Tonight I am taking out my lovely wife to dinner, it is her birthday to day.So after a 9 hour day,I am going to enjoy a 3 day weekend and enjoy myself.1 week till mazatlan,mexico.Again thanks to all who support me. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. -Herb Cohen -- If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] not an anti-Steve post, but almost
Hi Mark, I would surmise that a good portion of these anti-Steve e-mails are being generated in an attempt to prompt Art to kick him off the List. That would solve the ridiculous number of posts about Steve's ridiculous posts. David Steve-filtered Weir __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Mark: Deleting Steevvee's posts is not the answer. We can nitpick about the definition of spam (which is like picking the flysh*t out of the pepper), but if SSTTEEVVe was sending the list MULTIPLE UNWANTED pictures or links of himself and a friendly Chihuahua, or offers to sell you pics of him and his friendly Chihuahua and a meteorite (to make it meteorite related), though you belonged to the list, would it not be considered offensive and not appropriate (spam) by most list members? The answer is yes from where I sit. Take a good hard look at Bill's post below. When SSTTEEVE rips people off (or politely misrepresents himself for the live and let live crowd), this goes way beyond an odd for sale post. He is a detriment to the meteorite community (imagine a newbie buying one of his 3 for 1 sale meteorites only to find out that he got screwed). Then the person tries to write SSTTEVE, but does not get an answer. Buyer beware? No. That person does not buy again. Acceptance of Steve's bad habits (hit the delete key, et al.) are an endorsement of his behavior to his feeble brain. He has no reason to stop because a few people say good job SSTTEEVEY. The list is not SSTTEEVY's personal sales blog (I assume you agree with that), or information seeking blog, or lonely married person blog, or person with no friends blog, or here is my trip to Mexico blog, etc. to torture list members whenever he sees fit. My opinion. Nothing personal to you. Terry StarMeteorites I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ads on the list
Hi, just my 2 micrograms does it REALLY matter if people advertise on the list? Personally, i find a lot of the dealer websites out of date and highly priced and my best deals have come from the list. IS it really so much trouble to delete them? Hey, why not do what I do and get a daily digest instead and then scanning for ads is easier. I much prefer ads than the Farmer/matteo scraps and slagging-off. Are we next going to approach Meteorite magazine and boycott them for advertising? Does it really matter? I think that the temperament of some listees and the inability to get them permanently moderated is far more serious and has much further and serious ramifications. As someone pointed out, Although Steve A. relentlessly posts, the tap-backs for him doing that are far more egregious than his emails flogging stuff. Just lighten up!!! It's just a hobby to most, you know! Best dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - May 23-27, 2005
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES May 23-27, 2005 o Meridiani (Released 23 May 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050523a.html o More Meridiani (Released 24 May 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050524a.html o Elysium Mons (Released 25 May 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050525a.html o Cratered Acidalia Planitia (Released 26 May 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050526a.html o Acidalia Planitia Channel Margin (Released 27 May 2005) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20050527a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] not an anti-Steve post, but almost
Hello Everyone, ARG! Everyone keeps quoting Steve, defeating my blocker. One person writing numerous posts on the same topic ad nauseam is spam - by anyone's definition. Many people writing single posts concerning the one person is a legitimate complaint. It's not the absolute number posts that is the problem, it is the number being generated by one person on the same topic vs. the number being generated by many persons on the same topic. One may complain about the number of responses being generated by Steve's posts but keep in mind those responses are originating from multiple individuals - not a single person. Art, do you have an opinion on this? You wrote the list rules. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Listees !! Maybe not meteorite related but since there are quite a few Paypal users on the list i feel i neet to post this. This morning i received an email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the message that recently i had made some changes in my account. OK...i have a new credit card so had to change the number. This person linked me to a list which a had to fill in to compare the statistics with the old stuff. This list looked unbelievable real 'couse it was really on the paypal website, at least it appeared to be! If i did'nt fill in this form with the right things my account could be canceled. I filled it in...until i came to the part where i had to fill in my card number. All numbers stayed visible for reading instead of the little dots that usual appear. One more line down i had to fill in my pincodeWRONG!!! This is where i became suspicious and i thought it was time to contact paypall. They were shocked by the professionality this spam sh..t was made and they will start a serious investigation. BE PREPARED!! Keep your eyes open and don't just answer these mails before contacting paypal !! Have a stony weekend all!! Jan The Netherlands Heavenly Bodies Meteorites www.heavenlybodies.nl Close Encounters Of The Best Kind __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:33:33 +0200 (CEST), Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe not meteorite related but since there are quite a few Paypal users on the list i feel i neet to post this. This morning i received an email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the message that recently i had made some changes in my account. OK...i have a new credit card so had to change the number. This person linked me to a list which a had to fill in to compare the statistics with the old stuff. This list Welcome to the 1990s! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics!
Otherwise, how would they know when and where a meteorite shower will happen? http://cruises.about.com/b/a/170568.htm Swan Hellenic Discovery Cruises Presents a Meteorite Shower from the Middle of the Ocean Have you ever noticed how spectacular the night sky is when you are at sea? It always looks like millions of stars I have never seen before have suddenly filled the sky. Swan Hellenic Cruises is offering its Minerva II passengers a special experience this August -- the opportunity to view a meteorite shower from the middle of the Mediterranean. Swan Hellenic Islands and Harbours Itinerary Swan Hellenic Discovery Cruises Presents a Meteorite Shower from the Middle of the Ocean Imagine the scene - miles away from land, completely devoid of light pollution, aboard one of the world's most sophisticated cruise ships, viewing a meteorite shower from the middle of the Mediterranean ocean. Award-winning Swan Hellenic's state of the art cruise ship Minerva II is set to offer this unique cruising experience. As well as visiting exciting destinations including Spain, Morocco, Italy, France, Malta and Greece, guests on board this 15 - day cruise (departing from Cadiz on 6th August) will witness a breathtaking astronomical phenomenon - a meteorite shower - while at sea. Professional astronomer Dr. Malcolm Coe will be giving on board talks to guests set to experience the meteorite shower entitled 'Astronomy Old and New, and Its Connections with the Sites Visited'. Having worked for NASA investigating the Universe, published scientist Dr. Coe will ensure that guests aboard Minerva II will have a once in a lifetime, astronomical experience. Dr. Malcolm Coe is just one of the high-profile Guest Speakers that form an important part of the Swan Hellenic discovery cruising experience. Alongside Dr. Coe on this particular cruise are the former Reith Lecturer for the BBC and retired columnist for The Daily Telegraph Dr. Edward Norman; Dr. Douglas Campbell, who currently lectures at Duke University, North Carolina and has a forthcoming Channel 4 series in the pipeline based on Christianity's subversion of paganism; and art historian Dr. Penny McCracken, whose speech will be entitled 'Moorish architecture in Andalusia; a history of gardens'. For more information on Swan Hellenic Cruises, visit www.swanhellenic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Dear Darren. Very amusing this way of responding. I asume i am way behind of things you have expierienced already way back in the 90's? Wel lets see it this way. Maybe there are folks out there who are as much behind in these things like i am. Let this be a warning for them. For the othersthrow away this spammail. Best, Jan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics!
The Perseids meteor shower happens regularly in August , around the 12th, every year, 50-100 meteors every hour. Lasts for 5 days. Its parent body is Comet 103P/Swift-Tuttle. It is regarded as the most dependable of all meteor showers. Regards, Ken Saichek I.M.C.A. Member # 1723 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:47 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics! Otherwise, how would they know when and where a meteorite shower will happen? http://cruises.about.com/b/a/170568.htm Swan Hellenic Discovery Cruises Presents a Meteorite Shower from the Middle of the Ocean Have you ever noticed how spectacular the night sky is when you are at sea? It always looks like millions of stars I have never seen before have suddenly filled the sky. Swan Hellenic Cruises is offering its Minerva II passengers a special experience this August -- the opportunity to view a meteorite shower from the middle of the Mediterranean. Swan Hellenic Islands and Harbours Itinerary Swan Hellenic Discovery Cruises Presents a Meteorite Shower from the Middle of the Ocean Imagine the scene - miles away from land, completely devoid of light pollution, aboard one of the world's most sophisticated cruise ships, viewing a meteorite shower from the middle of the Mediterranean ocean. Award-winning Swan Hellenic's state of the art cruise ship Minerva II is set to offer this unique cruising experience. As well as visiting exciting destinations including Spain, Morocco, Italy, France, Malta and Greece, guests on board this 15 - day cruise (departing from Cadiz on 6th August) will witness a breathtaking astronomical phenomenon - a meteorite shower - while at sea. Professional astronomer Dr. Malcolm Coe will be giving on board talks to guests set to experience the meteorite shower entitled 'Astronomy Old and New, and Its Connections with the Sites Visited'. Having worked for NASA investigating the Universe, published scientist Dr. Coe will ensure that guests aboard Minerva II will have a once in a lifetime, astronomical experience. Dr. Malcolm Coe is just one of the high-profile Guest Speakers that form an important part of the Swan Hellenic discovery cruising experience. Alongside Dr. Coe on this particular cruise are the former Reith Lecturer for the BBC and retired columnist for The Daily Telegraph Dr. Edward Norman; Dr. Douglas Campbell, who currently lectures at Duke University, North Carolina and has a forthcoming Channel 4 series in the pipeline based on Christianity's subversion of paganism; and art historian Dr. Penny McCracken, whose speech will be entitled 'Moorish architecture in Andalusia; a history of gardens'. For more information on Swan Hellenic Cruises, visit www.swanhellenic __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics!
Yes, but it isn't regarded as a very dependable _meteorite_ shower. I hope they are issuing life jackets and helmets to all the passengers! Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: KENNETH I. SAICHEK, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics! The Perseids meteor shower happens regularly in August , around the 12th, every year, 50-100 meteors every hour. Lasts for 5 days. Its parent body is Comet 103P/Swift-Tuttle. It is regarded as the most dependable of all meteor showers. Regards, Ken Saichek I.M.C.A. Member # 1723 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 3:47 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] This cruiseline must employ psychics! Otherwise, how would they know when and where a meteorite shower will happen? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:46:56 +0200 (CEST), Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Darren. Very amusing this way of responding. I asume i am way behind of things you have expierienced already way back in the 90's? Yep. Enter the term phishing in google, and you'll get over 7 million hits. Enter phishing in the google news section and you'll get over 2 thousand. It is a from a class of hacking known as social engineering-- why use software to get people's private info when you can trick them into telling you themselves? See this entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing And this story (I intentionally picked one that mentioned the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/veiligheid/phishing/ and this one: http://news.google.com/news?q=phishingnum=100hl=enlr=c2coff=1tab=wnie=UTF-8 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Yeah...and stupid enough i almost got trapped in there...they should hang 'm all !! I'm not going to see all 7 million hits though..i believe ya!! Cheers, Jan On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:46:56 +0200 (CEST), Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Darren. Very amusing this way of responding. I asume i am way behind of things you have expierienced already way back in the 90's? Yep. Enter the term phishing in google, and you'll get over 7 million hits. Enter phishing in the google news section and you'll get over 2 thousand. It is a from a class of hacking known as social engineering-- why use software to get people's private info when you can trick them into telling you themselves? See this entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing And this story (I intentionally picked one that mentioned the Netherlands http://www.xs4all.nl/uk/veiligheid/phishing/ and this one: http://news.google.com/news?q=phishingnum=100hl=enlr=c2coff=1tab=wnie=UTF-8 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Hi Jan and list, I get this kind of spam at least once per week for many month now! I often send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ebay promises to do something about it but for some reason they are not able to stop this kind of spam but they send you a lot of useful links! Peter Marmet Jan Bartels wrote: Dear Darren. Very amusing this way of responding. I asume i am way behind of things you have expierienced already way back in the 90's? Wel lets see it this way. Maybe there are folks out there who are as much behind in these things like i am. Let this be a warning for them. For the othersthrow away this spammail. Best, Jan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] yahoogroups
Hello list.I guess it was another ANTI-STEVE BASHING DAY for what I saw on the 40 or more emails I got.Well I am taking the advise of mr.herr martin and take my sales to YAHOOGROUPS to make advertisements concerning meteorites.I am truly sorry for all the socalled spam I have been giving the list.It will not happen anymore.I should have done this along time ago.I KNOW what this list is for.And you are right, 30 emails concerning the same thing in 1 month is to much.Well with that said, I hope all my american friends have a very nice and safe holiday. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
It is a good idea to make sure that you have disabled your email client's ability to display HTML. Doing this makes it much easier to see if you are the target of phishers, since you can't spoof a URL in plain text. The message may say it's from PalPal or eBay, but with just a little care you can easily see if you are being directed to click on a link to somewhere else. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT - WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS. Hi Jan and list, I get this kind of spam at least once per week for many month now! I often send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ebay promises to do something about it but for some reason they are not able to stop this kind of spam but they send you a lot of useful links! Peter Marmet __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Hi Peter, Well i should feel lucky this was actualy my first one that almost made me believe it was the real stuff. Again i hope the rest of you are more clever then i am. Anyway, paypal was also shocked by the way this one was made. almost looked like the real thing for them to as they replied. Greetings from Holland Jan Hi Jan and list, I get this kind of spam at least once per week for many month now! I often send a copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Ebay promises to do something about it but for some reason they are not able to stop this kind of spam but they send you a lot of useful links! Peter Marmet Jan Bartels wrote: Dear Darren. Very amusing this way of responding. I asume i am way behind of things you have expierienced already way back in the 90's? Wel lets see it this way. Maybe there are folks out there who are as much behind in these things like i am. Let this be a warning for them. For the othersthrow away this spammail. Best, Jan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] yahoogroups
Hola Steve, my great American Friend. I don't know what the big deal is about... all your posts are nothing special, they just re-enforce to me that you are like everyone from Bob Haag right on down, obsessed by wonderful Space Gems! You are such a nice person for those who really take the time to know you. You are really OK in my book. Have a great time in Mexico. Just about the only thing extraordinary I see here is that you are coming down to Mexican heaven on vacation. That is superb, and I want to laud you one more time, for just being your own cool self that we have all come to know and accept, enskied within our precious online kingdom...Saludos Steve A wrote: Hello list.I guess it was another ANTI-STEVE BASHING DAY for what I saw on the 40 or more emails I got.Well I am taking the advise of mr.herr martin and take my sales to YAHOOGROUPS to make advertisements concerning meteorites.I am truly sorry for all the socalled spam I have been giving the list.It will not happen anymore. I should have done this along time ago.I KNOW what this list is for.And you are right, 30 emails concerning the same thing in 1 month is to much.Well with that said, I hope all my american friends have a very nice and safe holiday. steve arnold, chicago __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test please ignore
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[meteorite-list] List as bad as blog!
Hey list, the blog sucks because everyone hides behind fake names, I am beginning to think the list is getting there too! I posted about a new Nickel deposit and had a conversation with Devon Slater that quickly turned into an argument complete with insults. Later today I checked the blog, and sure enough, he took it over to the blog. Then, I noticed that his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also looked in the List Archives and found out in the past three months, he has only posted a few times and each time it was to fight with someone. I am thinking that with an address like his, he is not a real person, just another person that has to hide behind a fake identity so he can be hateful. I think, as a list we should not tolerate fake identities on the list or it will end up as bad as the blog. I was really disappointed when I realized it was only a coward, I thought I finally new who I wanted to meet in Tucson to tell him in person what I thought of what he said about my daughter! : ( Thanks, Tom peregrineflier __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My take if it's ok... On Steve Arnold
I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List as bad as blog!
On Fri, 27 May 2005 16:08:39 -0700, Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blog, and sure enough, he took it over to the blog. Then, I noticed that his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also looked in the List snip I am thinking that with an address like his, he is not a real person, Who are you to question the name his parents, Fred and Jessica Police, came up with for Conscience? Don't you think he took enough ribbing in school for that? :-) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] not an anti-Steve post, but almost
This is a perfect example of how the DELETE technique doesn't work! JKGwilliam At 12:37 PM 5/27/2005, Walter Branch wrote: ARG! Everyone keeps quoting Steve, defeating my blocker. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sorry for the double posts..
Hello List, Well now my posts lost this morning are showing up, sorry if any are double. Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS.
Yes, it sucks, but you did it to yourself. Ebay and Paypal NEVER solicit email to you with a hotlink back to any site that they manage. PERIOD. The I didn't know the gun was loaded excuse does not work online. There are very few people who would ever have answered that email. This rule applies to ALL legitimate financial institutions in the US. That includes credit card companies, banks, credit unions, mortgage lenders... Any company that holds your money or other funds in escrow with an account number. You should submit the mail header of any financial company that appears to violate this rule to the Department of Commerce. Never copy yourself and the sender in this email, because then they at least get a legitimate email address back, which will certainly breed more attacks. CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Garrison Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 4:44 PM To: Jan Bartels Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] WARNING !! PAYPAL USERS. On Fri, 27 May 2005 22:33:33 +0200 (CEST), Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe not meteorite related but since there are quite a few Paypal users on the list i feel i neet to post this. This morning i received an email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) with the message that recently i had made some changes in my account. OK...i have a new credit card so had to change the number. This person linked me to a list which a had to fill in to compare the statistics with the old stuff. This list Welcome to the 1990s! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please
Hello Bob, John, and List Thanks and I figured there were others that had the same experience and although I refuse to surf on the wave of slams I do see that perhaps those folks have had similar jolts or rude awakenings somewhere along the way Dealing with this person and well. I just felt that I should mention my experience simply because early on after I joined this list to learn about meteorites, which by the way I am and have found more good information here than anywhere on the net. I just didn't understand why the poor guy was under constant harassment that to an outsider or newbie to the list may seem as totally unjust as it did at times to me, but I have an open mind. I agree now with some that it is good to expose such underhanded dealings to protect others and this I believe is one of the very reasons for this list. It is also important to expose some of the respected dealers here from time to time for their great service and willingness to go out of there way for a good customer. Some names come to mind here, but this is not the time (grin) I mean the man no harm, but also I want to perhaps help make sure someone else doesn't have to go through getting their little feelings hurt like I and others have (grin) Heck to someone that goes out into these deserts to look for and find these specimens they are...Well important (to me anyway) and science too ;) - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bill Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hello Bill and List, Some of you might not know Bill Southern since he is relatively new to the Meteorite List. I know him personally. He's a really great guy and is one of the most accommodating and selfless people I know. Take note of what he's saying - I know he had to twist his own arm quite hard to speak up on this issue. Maybe those of you that shake your finger at the naysayers need to take a look at this Steve issue from a different angle. There are many of us within the meteorite community who think it is our responsibility, in part, to make sure the public is dealt with fairly and honestly and that is one of the reasons Steve Arnold is scrutinized the way he is. I find it hard to believe that those of you that openly support Steve because he gave you a freebie or he acts like a generous benefactor refuse to look at his other activities without your rose colored glasses. Sure, there are some things about Steve that make him a likeable guy to some people, but I know many others who have had negative dealings with him and their voices have a right to be heard too. Finally, I don't think any of you anti-naysayer have the right to censor those who speak out about wrong doing or excessive self promotion by a list member. Do you condone the deceit and dishonesty? Feel free to comment, JKGwilliam At 11:43 AM 5/27/2005, Bill Southern wrote: Sorry for piggy backing in on this post, but for some reason my last 3 attempts have failed to get through as happens here at times... I was just going to let this go, but seeing some folks not understanding how this fellow operates I have decided to tell a short story about my first dealings with Steve A. from Chicago (Elgin) IL. I was actually taken in by a request for some Franconia irons a few weeks back which I hunt for and find myself here in Arizona, by Steve. Now I hunt these and take pride in my finds and picked out some very nice little irons and also a slice of about 1.5 grams or so of the H5 chondrite thought to be the source of the small and very unique irons and sent them to Steve as a gift thinking he would add them to his collection. A few days later they show up for sale on ebay...Didn't sell there so he put them in his sale...Needless to say I felt sort of stupid and taken for the proverbial ride. This was my first and LAST experience with Mr. Arnold. I emailed him asking about it and got no reply. Yes it is true that they are his do with as he pleases, but I feel I should have been told before sending them to him that he intended to sell them and not keep them. His pretence was owning some for his collection in his request. Alas I am fond of learning some things the hard way, but just once :) Whoops...Bill - Original Message - From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] No More Anti-Steve Posting Please Hi Mark and all, Perhaps if the anti-spam Steve posts were aimed directly to Steve email it would be better. However I feel if Steve is allowed to post all of these ads then certainly people who don't agree should be allowed to post their concerns related to his spams. (and there is certainly others who violate the list rules related to ad
Re: [meteorite-list] yahoogroups
yaa-hooo ! -- Original message from Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Hello list.I guess it was another ANTI-STEVE BASHING DAY for what I saw on the 40 or more emails I got.Well I am taking the advise of mr.herr martin and take my sales to YAHOOGROUPS to make advertisements concerning meteorites.I am truly sorry for all the socalled spam I have been giving the list.It will not happen anymore.I should have done this along time ago.I KNOW what this list is for.And you are right, 30 emails concerning the same thing in 1 month is to much.Well with that said, I hope all my american friends have a very nice and safe holiday. steve arnold, chicago Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List as bad as blog!
Congrats! Good work. Now you know at least that that name is setting you up. I do similar things with addresses that move freely amongst the many free and throw away accounts Over the years has anyone else ever wondered if and why so many of the So n So's Our Hero, Stop Bashing Him !, Enabler Society-- have throw away email addresses (e.g. yahoo, hotmail etc.) with ISP access in, for example--the Chicago, Illinois area? Or why they only post to support the Hero, and never answer questions put to them? Maybe it is just that I am paranoid... The subscribers to this list are SOooo played and many so gentle and trusting they are oblivious. Giving things away seems, on the surface, as a noble mangamous behavior until you remember that Jim Jones gave away free kool-aid , Thalidimide was a free sample given to pregnant women, and your neighborhood drug dealer frequently starts a new customer with a free bag. I think you are right--we shouldn't tolerate fake identities, we shouldn't tolerate being played, and when the liars are found out we shouldn't tolerate their deceit. An apology is ok once but when it is used over and over as a get out of jail free card, how do we expect that the apology is ever sincere ever? In the long run, as was said long ago on the list,--this trade is based on the trust and integrity of the person's claim of provinence-that the material is what it is represented to be. If they are deceptive in other matters why do we want to believe that they are suddenly wholey honest in their sales weights, sizes, and representations. How would we know the material was even from the meteorite they claim it is? I want to apologize for this post, and I want to apologize in advance for the next one--it won't happen againand in case it does, I want to apologize for that one too. Oh did I tell you I apologize for this post? (rolling my eyes) Elton Tom Knudson wrote: (snip)... Devon Slater that quickly turned into an argument complete with insults. Later today I checked the blog, and sure enough, he took it over to the blog. Then, I noticed that his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also looked in the List Archives and found out in the past three months, he has only posted a few times and each time it was to fight with someone. I am thinking that with an address like his, he is not a real person, just another person that has to hide behind a fake identity so he can be hateful. I think, as a list we should not tolerate fake identities on the list or it will end up as bad as the blog. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] yahoogroups
Dear SSTTEEVEY: I will believe it when I see it. I am betting that within 60 days of your return from Mexico, the list will be writhing in agony again with your spamming sales posts. You have a history of saying you will stop your (insert SSTTEVVEEY bad habit here) and then doing it all over again. Hope I am proven wrong. You play by the rules like everyone else, and you and the list won't hear another peep out of me. Terry StarMeteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Insolitology!!! Was: List as bad as blog!
Elton, Extremely good, ...and entertaining post! I found the word Insolitologyjust now...The Study of crackpots on the internet. I have had that feeling about the hotmail and yahoo addresses for years. If one can't support a real ISP then that is a grain of salt on the credit app. for me to not accept the real person as a real person until proven so by deeds. Grant it, some use hotmail and yahoo for extra email addresses but some use them for the dark side! I have been with Fascination.com for 7+ years and have been here for the same amount of time with the same address.. I found no meteorites in the desert today FYI, hunted 6 hours! And, I was only being facetious (1. given to jesting, playfully jocular 2. Amusing) in my post earlier about the loose morality girl friend. There is no big mac queen in my stable. Mine are really fine upper level prom date kind of gals! Dave F. (who has never busted a meteorite and hasn't cut one in 4 years!) 2003 WY Mining Assoc. Professional Salesman of the Year 2004 Rock Springs Chamber of Commerce Volunteer of the Year eBay Power seller, 100% positive feed back over 1,200 auctions completed E. L. Jones wrote: Congrats! Good work. Now you know at least that that name is setting you up. I do similar things with addresses that move freely amongst the many free and throw away accounts Over the years has anyone else ever wondered if and why so many of the So n So's Our Hero, Stop Bashing Him !, Enabler Society-- have throw away email addresses (e.g. yahoo, hotmail etc.) with ISP access in, for example--the Chicago, Illinois area? Or why they only post to support the Hero, and never answer questions put to them? Maybe it is just that I am paranoid... The subscribers to this list are SOooo played and many so gentle and trusting they are oblivious. Giving things away seems, on the surface, as a noble mangamous behavior until you remember that Jim Jones gave away free kool-aid , Thalidimide was a free sample given to pregnant women, and your neighborhood drug dealer frequently starts a new customer with a free bag. I think you are right--we shouldn't tolerate fake identities, we shouldn't tolerate being played, and when the liars are found out we shouldn't tolerate their deceit. An apology is ok once but when it is used over and over as a get out of jail free card, how do we expect that the apology is ever sincere ever? In the long run, as was said long ago on the list,--this trade is based on the trust and integrity of the person's claim of provinence-that the material is what it is represented to be. If they are deceptive in other matters why do we want to believe that they are suddenly wholey honest in their sales weights, sizes, and representations. How would we know the material was even from the meteorite they claim it is? I want to apologize for this post, and I want to apologize in advance for the next one--it won't happen againand in case it does, I want to apologize for that one too. Oh did I tell you I apologize for this post? (rolling my eyes) Elton Tom Knudson wrote: (snip)... Devon Slater that quickly turned into an argument complete with insults. Later today I checked the blog, and sure enough, he took it over to the blog. Then, I noticed that his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also looked in the List Archives and found out in the past three months, he has only posted a few times and each time it was to fight with someone. I am thinking that with an address like his, he is not a real person, just another person that has to hide behind a fake identity so he can be hateful. I think, as a list we should not tolerate fake identities on the list or it will end up as bad as the blog. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chicago Steve Arnold is my HERO
Hi All I don't post tooo much !! But I thought I'll stick my nose in this one . Anyone who can stand to live and work in the greater chicago land area ( my home town) is a OK in my book . I bailed out a that area in 1976 and I don't like going back there even to visit friends or family . I can tolorate Steve's child like enthusiasm for wanting to run with the big dogs and be a wheeler dealer . Some of his posts are even cute (the tooth whole tooth and nothin but the tooth meteorite. ) Well if you don't like his adds do as I and delete em !! (Sorry Steve) Hey he's not the only guy peddlin space rocks on this list !! Sooo I say leave him alone and either buy his stuff or delete it if it's not of interest .Gooo for it big Steve !! Happy Huntin John Blennert __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List as bad as blog!
My real name is Mark M. in Phoenix AZ for the record. Mark M. Phoenix AZ - Original Message - From: E. L. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: met list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] List as bad as blog! Congrats! Good work. Now you know at least that that name is setting you up. I do similar things with addresses that move freely amongst the many free and throw away accounts Over the years has anyone else ever wondered if and why so many of the So n So's Our Hero, Stop Bashing Him !, Enabler Society-- have throw away email addresses (e.g. yahoo, hotmail etc.) with ISP access in, for example--the Chicago, Illinois area? Or why they only post to support the Hero, and never answer questions put to them? Maybe it is just that I am paranoid... The subscribers to this list are SOooo played and many so gentle and trusting they are oblivious. Giving things away seems, on the surface, as a noble mangamous behavior until you remember that Jim Jones gave away free kool-aid , Thalidimide was a free sample given to pregnant women, and your neighborhood drug dealer frequently starts a new customer with a free bag. I think you are right--we shouldn't tolerate fake identities, we shouldn't tolerate being played, and when the liars are found out we shouldn't tolerate their deceit. An apology is ok once but when it is used over and over as a get out of jail free card, how do we expect that the apology is ever sincere ever? In the long run, as was said long ago on the list,--this trade is based on the trust and integrity of the person's claim of provinence-that the material is what it is represented to be. If they are deceptive in other matters why do we want to believe that they are suddenly wholey honest in their sales weights, sizes, and representations. How would we know the material was even from the meteorite they claim it is? I want to apologize for this post, and I want to apologize in advance for the next one--it won't happen againand in case it does, I want to apologize for that one too. Oh did I tell you I apologize for this post? (rolling my eyes) Elton Tom Knudson wrote: (snip)... Devon Slater that quickly turned into an argument complete with insults. Later today I checked the blog, and sure enough, he took it over to the blog. Then, I noticed that his email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] I also looked in the List Archives and found out in the past three months, he has only posted a few times and each time it was to fight with someone. I am thinking that with an address like his, he is not a real person, just another person that has to hide behind a fake identity so he can be hateful. I think, as a list we should not tolerate fake identities on the list or it will end up as bad as the blog. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] not an anti-Steve post, but almost
How about this? Anyone who doesn't want to get Chicago Steve's messages to the list can simply block his posts. Now, if everyone else who insists on sending multiple complaints for each of his posts would just put Chicago Steve somewhere in the subject line, the rest of us who wish to block such posts can do so without blocking whatever you may have to say to the list that isn't such a complaint. Frank Prochaska -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Walter Branch Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 11:37 AM To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] not an anti-Steve post, but almost Hello Everyone, ARG! Everyone keeps quoting Steve, defeating my blocker. One person writing numerous posts on the same topic ad nauseam is spam - by anyone's definition. Many people writing single posts concerning the one person is a legitimate complaint. It's not the absolute number posts that is the problem, it is the number being generated by one person on the same topic vs. the number being generated by many persons on the same topic. One may complain about the number of responses being generated by Steve's posts but keep in mind those responses are originating from multiple individuals - not a single person. Art, do you have an opinion on this? You wrote the list rules. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Information on a meteorite
Hello A moroccan person have offer to me this meteorite http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/met2.jpg I have say its totaly without magnetism - money back if is not real - for you what is it? Its similar to a aubrite in the matrix. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Information on a meteorite
The cracked egg-shell crust, light-colored interior, and overall shape certainly support the claim that it is meteoritic. Interesting (if true) that it is entirely unresponsive to a magnet. Of course, I guess that depends on the quality of the magnet. LL's aren't very attracted to refrigerator magnets, but their paramagnetism is easily felt with a rare-earth magnet. --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: met list Sent: 5/27/2005 10:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Information on a meteorite Hello A moroccan person have offer to me this meteorite http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/met2.jpg I have say its totaly without magnetism - money back if is not real - for you what is it? Its similar to a aubrite in the matrix. Matteo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
