Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay
Dear Darren, Martin and List, Darren and Martin, am I putting words into your mouth that do not escape? Why is a list member selling an autograph of one of the biggest MURDERERS on EARTH?? Why is Adoph Hitler`s autograph being offered by anyone; let anyone on this list SHAME ON YOU MATTEO! Was your link to a common coin to lead the NAZI lovers to YOU? Sick Burn such a sick piece of ink!! $900 for a fake? autograph of a MURDERER. Matteo, even I feel shame for you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 02:53:17 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Darren, one stone survived. The holy stone of the temple of Paphos on Cyprus, which is depicted on many classical coins (Traian, Vespasian, Drusus, Caracalla and so on), was recovered by excavations on the temple site more than hundred years ago. It was kept in the cellar and the stock of the National museum in Nikosia for an eternity, until it was transportated to the local archeological museum in Kouklia, where it's now exhibited. Never a sample was taken for authentification. One of the sad things about being a specialist in one feild of science means that you tend to not have much knowledge of/interest in other feilds. I often wonder how many meteorites paleontologists have walked over in the desert, and how many valuable fossils meteorite hunters have walked over. (Like, for example, Peter Douglas Ward's work in the Karoo desert as described in his recent book Gorgon-- seems like prime meteorite country, and he and his people likely kicked a few meteorites out of the way in their scouring the desert for bone). I knew that a ancient fall in a temple in Japan was still known, but I hadn't ever heard that one of the ancient Greek ones had been recovered. (It reminds me of the book The First Fossil Hunters which attempts to trace many ancient legends and worshiped objects to fossils-- see http://www.2think.org/fossilhunters.shtml) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay/ Nazi item
This message is going to trash box automatically by Yahoo so will send again. Someone else has complained as SPAM TOPIC and therefore goes to Bulk mailbox. dr --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Dear Darren, Martin and List, Darren and Martin, am I putting words into your mouth that do not escape? Why is a list member selling an autograph of one of the biggest MURDERERS on EARTH?? Why is Adoph Hitler`s autograph being offered by anyone; let anyone on this list SHAME ON YOU MATTEO! Was your link to a common coin to lead the NAZI lovers to YOU? Sick Burn such a sick piece of ink!! $900 for a fake? autograph of a MURDERER. Matteo, even I feel shame for you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 02:53:17 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Darren, one stone survived. The holy stone of the temple of Paphos on Cyprus, which is depicted on many classical coins (Traian, Vespasian, Drusus, Caracalla and so on), was recovered by excavations on the temple site more than hundred years ago. It was kept in the cellar and the stock of the National museum in Nikosia for an eternity, until it was transportated to the local archeological museum in Kouklia, where it's now exhibited. Never a sample was taken for authentification. One of the sad things about being a specialist in one feild of science means that you tend to not have much knowledge of/interest in other feilds. I often wonder how many meteorites paleontologists have walked over in the desert, and how many valuable fossils meteorite hunters have walked over. (Like, for example, Peter Douglas Ward's work in the Karoo desert as described in his recent book Gorgon-- seems like prime meteorite country, and he and his people likely kicked a few meteorites out of the way in their scouring the desert for bone). I knew that a ancient fall in a temple in Japan was still known, but I hadn't ever heard that one of the ancient Greek ones had been recovered. (It reminds me of the book The First Fossil Hunters which attempts to trace many ancient legends and worshiped objects to fossils-- see http://www.2think.org/fossilhunters.shtml) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
Dear Darren and Martin, Are there words that did escape your messages? Why is a list member selling the WORLD`S GREATEST MURDERER`S autograph Matteo SHAME SHAME!!! Burn such a piece of paper and INK penned by such a BASTARD; do you agree with such a BASTARD of the Earth!!! $900$ of silver!!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Do not lead us to see a meteorite coin just so you can link-up with like thinking persons. God SAVE YOUR SOUL! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list]OT Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
Its a autographs and collectors of autographs buy all types of this...if you want I give you links of Autographs dealers in USA where sale Hitler, Goering, Eichmann etcand normaly for a Hitler autographs ask $2000. I not see where is the problem. Autographs its a hobby type meteorites Matteo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dear Darren and Martin, Are there words that did escape your messages? Why is a list member selling the WORLD`S GREATEST MURDERER`S autograph Matteo SHAME SHAME!!! Burn such a piece of paper and INK penned by such a BASTARD; do you agree with such a BASTARD of the Earth!!! $900$ of silver!!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Do not lead us to see a meteorite coin just so you can link-up with like thinking persons. God SAVE YOUR SOUL! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay
I have offer in this list Hitler autographs? It does not result meand is not the first time I sale this autograph and no it nothing said ever. Second is not a fake why have COA. 3th Ebay have a section of Germany III Reich items, or if you go on autographs you find 13 autographs related to III Reich. 4th if you want speack of Murderers, speack of Stalin have kill over 100 milion of persons and have continue this the same after the end of the II WW. I repeat, autographs its autographs, meteorites its meteorites. Matteo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Dear Darren, Martin and List, Darren and Martin, am I putting words into your mouth that do not escape? Why is a list member selling an autograph of one of the biggest MURDERERS on EARTH?? Why is Adoph Hitler`s autograph being offered by anyone; let anyone on this list SHAME ON YOU MATTEO! Was your link to a common coin to lead the NAZI lovers to YOU? Sick Burn such a sick piece of ink!! $900 for a fake? autograph of a MURDERER. Matteo, even I feel shame for you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 02:53:17 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Darren, one stone survived. The holy stone of the temple of Paphos on Cyprus, which is depicted on many classical coins (Traian, Vespasian, Drusus, Caracalla and so on), was recovered by excavations on the temple site more than hundred years ago. It was kept in the cellar and the stock of the National museum in Nikosia for an eternity, until it was transportated to the local archeological museum in Kouklia, where it's now exhibited. Never a sample was taken for authentification. One of the sad things about being a specialist in one feild of science means that you tend to not have much knowledge of/interest in other feilds. I often wonder how many meteorites paleontologists have walked over in the desert, and how many valuable fossils meteorite hunters have walked over. (Like, for example, Peter Douglas Ward's work in the Karoo desert as described in his recent book Gorgon-- seems like prime meteorite country, and he and his people likely kicked a few meteorites out of the way in their scouring the desert for bone). I knew that a ancient fall in a temple in Japan was still known, but I hadn't ever heard that one of the ancient Greek ones had been recovered. (It reminds me of the book The First Fossil Hunters which attempts to trace many ancient legends and worshiped objects to fossils-- see http://www.2think.org/fossilhunters.shtml) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.beta.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
Hi Dirk, I was answering Darren's question, not checking Matteo's link. And when I took a look earlier that day on his coin, I didn't click on that postcard, as postcards are collected by many people and if they stem from that period, they don't have automatically distgusting pictures on them. So I apologize for having spread that link and distance myself from it. I agree with you, that the try to earn money with Nazi crap is beyond all bearing, and btw at least in German ebay forbidden. Martin - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin Dear Darren and Martin, Are there words that did escape your messages? Why is a list member selling the WORLD`S GREATEST MURDERER`S autograph Matteo SHAME SHAME!!! Burn such a piece of paper and INK penned by such a BASTARD; do you agree with such a BASTARD of the Earth!!! $900$ of silver!!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Do not lead us to see a meteorite coin just so you can link-up with like thinking persons. God SAVE YOUR SOUL! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list]OT Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
again, and I repeat for the last timeautographs its autographs, meteorites its meteorites and I am not the unique in the world to sale III Reich autographs!! Second, I sale what I want on ebay, not sure I cancel a auction why a person not like this type of collections3th in Germany on ebay write iìon search Adolf Hitler and take a look what exit, where its forbidden??? Matteo --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi Dirk, I was answering Darren's question, not checking Matteo's link. And when I took a look earlier that day on his coin, I didn't click on that postcard, as postcards are collected by many people and if they stem from that period, they don't have automatically distgusting pictures on them. So I apologize for having spread that link and distance myself from it. I agree with you, that the try to earn money with Nazi crap is beyond all bearing, and btw at least in German ebay forbidden. Martin - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin Dear Darren and Martin, Are there words that did escape your messages? Why is a list member selling the WORLD`S GREATEST MURDERER`S autograph Matteo SHAME SHAME!!! Burn such a piece of paper and INK penned by such a BASTARD; do you agree with such a BASTARD of the Earth!!! $900$ of silver!!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Do not lead us to see a meteorite coin just so you can link-up with like thinking persons. God SAVE YOUR SOUL! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: OT Hitler Autograph disguised as, meteorite coin
3th in Germany on ebay write iìon search Adolf Hitler and take a look what exit, where its forbidden??? Matteo Its forbidden by law in Germany Matteo, just as here in Holland its forbidden to sell Mein Kampf by law. You can get it under the counter but anyone offering it in public risks confiscation and juridical prosecution. If anyone would make a complaint to German justice about the items you found on German eBay, these dealers would be in big trouble. So don't use them to justify yourself. In itself there is nothing wrong with an HISTORICAL interest in such items, and not everybody collecting these kind of items is necesarily a Neo-Nazi or Fascist. Sadly enough however, still many of the buyers are all too ignorant of history, and buy it for reasons of veneration. The question now is, whether YOU are ignorant of history, Matteo, and of these connotations and sensitivities. As you come from a former Axis country, you should be carefull (please note: I do not say that you and/or civilians from former Axis countries are all still worshipping Fascism. I do say, that civilians from former Axis countries should be very sensitive to their context of history and the impression their acts make on outsiders, including civilians from countries that were occupied by the Axis. That is the burden of being born there, I am sorry). Do you want to portray yourself as a person with ethics and a sense of what is appropriate, or do you just want to make unscrupulous money? Its a bit the same as weapons trade. There is a market for it, allright, that in some contexts is fully legal, in others isn't. But does this justify being active in that market? I take some offence to the fact that you tried to defend yourself by pointing to Stalin. I fully agree that Stalin was a mass-murderer too. So was Pol Pot, or Mao, or Bokassa, or Idi Amin. But that does not make Adolph Hitler more acceptable. I leave it with this as this does not belong on this list proper. But you should be more sensitive Matteo, to the connotations of what you offer for sale, and if that attracts critique, that is the result of the choices you made yourself. And you, only you, are responsible for that. It are YOUR choices. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list]OT Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
Matteo, do you really think, that a discussion is needed??! As we wouldn't have enough problems, and in especially Italy too, with fascists and neo-nazis. Who do you think will buy that card? It's a huge difference between somebody selling or collecting let's say coins, stamps, books ect. as all stuff from that times is swastika-festooned, and this postcard and this glamourising happy-bithday-Hitler-devotional article. You want to make money with that card - 900$, you will make business with persons, who adhere to an inhuman hateful ideology, who costed the life of millions and millions of victims. Remember the scandal some years ago, where a person wanted to make big cash, in bringing the clothes of an concentration camp prisoner to an auction house. - will you say now, where was the problem - collecting historical costumes is an collecting field like any other too?? Be better soon. Martin who need his time for better purposes, back to meteorites. PS: http://pages.ebay.de/help/policies/nazi.html and here for your case: Artikel mit einem Abbild Adolf Hitlers und anderer NS-Größen, sowie Gegenstände, die mit einem Hakenkreuz oder anderen verfassungsfeindlichen Symbolen versehen sind. Ausgenommen hiervon sind Briefmarken und offizielle Zahlungsmittel der damaligen Zeit. Items with a picture of Adolf Hitler and other Nazi-prominents..Except stamps and official moneys of that time Philatelistische Artikel, wie zum Beispiel Postkarten, auf denen in erster Linie verfassungsfeindliche Symbole, Propaganda, oder die oben genannten Personen abgebildet sind. Philatelistic items, like for instance postcards, whereon.. above-named persons are depicted - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]OT Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin again, and I repeat for the last timeautographs its autographs, meteorites its meteorites and I am not the unique in the world to sale III Reich autographs!! Second, I sale what I want on ebay, not sure I cancel a auction why a person not like this type of collections3th in Germany on ebay write iìon search Adolf Hitler and take a look what exit, where its forbidden??? Matteo --- Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hi Dirk, I was answering Darren's question, not checking Matteo's link. And when I took a look earlier that day on his coin, I didn't click on that postcard, as postcards are collected by many people and if they stem from that period, they don't have automatically distgusting pictures on them. So I apologize for having spread that link and distance myself from it. I agree with you, that the try to earn money with Nazi crap is beyond all bearing, and btw at least in German ebay forbidden. Martin - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin Dear Darren and Martin, Are there words that did escape your messages? Why is a list member selling the WORLD`S GREATEST MURDERER`S autograph Matteo SHAME SHAME!!! Burn such a piece of paper and INK penned by such a BASTARD; do you agree with such a BASTARD of the Earth!!! $900$ of silver!!! Dirk Ross...Tokyo Do not lead us to see a meteorite coin just so you can link-up with like thinking persons. God SAVE YOUR SOUL! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: OT Hitler Autograph disguised as, meteorite coin
I know well the Germany History unfortunately for you, I have read tons of books on this argoument. Sinceraly I no understand where is the problems when Sotheby's, Christie's and other big auction house have sale III Reich autographs in they auctions. Mah...mistery...why you not ask why on Ebay.com its possible buy autographs of General Custer or photos with autographs of the Enola Gay atomic bomb pilots, all two its criminals and have kill many persons, but for this is not forbidden sale autographsmany strange. Sincerely bigot people I do not understand. and with this I close, this is a meteorite list not a autographs list Matteo --- Marco Langbroek [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: 3th in Germany on ebay write iìon search Adolf Hitler and take a look what exit, where its forbidden??? Matteo Its forbidden by law in Germany Matteo, just as here in Holland its forbidden to sell Mein Kampf by law. You can get it under the counter but anyone offering it in public risks confiscation and juridical prosecution. If anyone would make a complaint to German justice about the items you found on German eBay, these dealers would be in big trouble. So don't use them to justify yourself. In itself there is nothing wrong with an HISTORICAL interest in such items, and not everybody collecting these kind of items is necesarily a Neo-Nazi or Fascist. Sadly enough however, still many of the buyers are all too ignorant of history, and buy it for reasons of veneration. The question now is, whether YOU are ignorant of history, Matteo, and of these connotations and sensitivities. As you come from a former Axis country, you should be carefull (please note: I do not say that you and/or civilians from former Axis countries are all still worshipping Fascism. I do say, that civilians from former Axis countries should be very sensitive to their context of history and the impression their acts make on outsiders, including civilians from countries that were occupied by the Axis. That is the burden of being born there, I am sorry). Do you want to portray yourself as a person with ethics and a sense of what is appropriate, or do you just want to make unscrupulous money? Its a bit the same as weapons trade. There is a market for it, allright, that in some contexts is fully legal, in others isn't. But does this justify being active in that market? I take some offence to the fact that you tried to defend yourself by pointing to Stalin. I fully agree that Stalin was a mass-murderer too. So was Pol Pot, or Mao, or Bokassa, or Idi Amin. But that does not make Adolph Hitler more acceptable. I leave it with this as this does not belong on this list proper. But you should be more sensitive Matteo, to the connotations of what you offer for sale, and if that attracts critique, that is the result of the choices you made yourself. And you, only you, are responsible for that. It are YOUR choices. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.beta.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites in temples
One of the sad things about being a specialist in one feild of science means that you tend to not have much knowledge of/interest in other feilds. I often wonder how many meteorites paleontologists have walked over in the desert, and how many valuable fossils meteorite hunters have walked over. This is certainly true. Concerning meteorites, archaeological research and Greek temples: one has to realize that quite some excavations of such objects were done at a time that meteoritics as a science barely existed, and archaeologgy itself was in its infancy. Can you blame a 19th century archaeologist for not recognizing a meteorite, when he worked at a time that scientists were not unanimous about the fact if meteorites even really existed? Today, it also depends a bit on which subfield it concerns. Classical archaeology tends to be less multidisciplinary oriented (but there are exceptions, I should haste to add). Prehistoric archaeology on the other hand, often is multidisciplinary oriented (and archaeology should be in my opinion - I have a PhD in archaeology by the way). In modern prehistoric archaeological research, it is quite normal to do an analysis of the lithics found, as this can for example point you to trade networks of raw materials. And meteorites have been found in this way: one was found among the stone infill of a pit in the British hillfort of Danebury for example. The meteoritic iron artifacts from Hopewell mounds are another, wel known example of course. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well said, Marco! There is a saying here in Germany that wer im Glashaus sitzt, sollte nicht mit Steinen werfen, translating to whoever is sitting in a glass house should not throw stones, which is well applicable in this case. This goes out to Matteo and all the the people who try to benefit or make profit in some way from the relics of a very dark area, which we should still be ashame of. May be it has become a problem of education and age right now after the turn of the century, but that does not make up an excuse after all. By the way, on the other topic of the cultural heritage re coins and old tempel finds, I disagree with my dear collector friend Martin Altmann from Munich in his rather personal assessment about the intentions and goals of the Meteoritical Society, but on the other hand I, just like him, don´t understand why obviously nothing is done about these historically most important artifacts towards answering the very questions they raise. Dr. Grossman et al, your opinions on this would be welcome. Alex Berlin/Germany (..btw: also member of the MetSoc:-)) Its forbidden by law in Germany Matteo, just as here in Holland its forbidden to sell Mein Kampf by law. You can get it under the counter but anyone offering it in public risks confiscation and juridical prosecution. If anyone would make a complaint to German justice about the items you found on German eBay, these dealers would be in big trouble. So don't use them to justify yourself. In itself there is nothing wrong with an HISTORICAL interest in such items, and not everybody collecting these kind of items is necesarily a Neo-Nazi or Fascist. Sadly enough however, still many of the buyers are all too ignorant of history, and buy it for reasons of veneration. The question now is, whether YOU are ignorant of history, Matteo, and of these connotations and sensitivities. As you come from a former Axis country, you should be carefull (please note: I do not say that you and/or civilians from former Axis countries are all still worshipping Fascism. I do say, that civilians from former Axis countries should be very sensitive to their context of history and the impression their acts make on outsiders, including civilians from countries that were occupied by the Axis. That is the burden of being born there, I am sorry). Do you want to portray yourself as a person with ethics and a sense of what is appropriate, or do you just want to make unscrupulous money? Its a bit the same as weapons trade. There is a market for it, allright, that in some contexts is fully legal, in others isn't. But does this justify being active in that market? I take some offence to the fact that you tried to defend yourself by pointing to Stalin. I fully agree that Stalin was a mass-murderer too. So was Pol Pot, or Mao, or Bokassa, or Idi Amin. But that does not make Adolph Hitler more acceptable. I leave it with this as this does not belong on this list proper. But you should be more sensitive Matteo, to the connotations of what you offer for sale, and if that attracts critique, that is the result of the choices you made yourself. And you, only you, are responsible for that. It are YOUR choices. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private website http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek DMS website http://www.dmsweb.org - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT), drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: selling an autograph of one of the biggest MURDERERS on EARTH?? Why is Adoph Hitler`s autograph being offered by anyone; let anyone on this list SHAME ON YOU MATTEO! Was your link to a common coin to lead the NAZI lovers to YOU? Sick Burn such a sick piece of ink!! $900 for a fake? autograph of a MURDERER. Matteo, even I feel shame for you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo History is history. I don't see why we should have to devide it into history of the good guys that can be kept, and history of the bad guys that must be wiped from the Earth. As far as that goes, how do we know that ancient coins (such as the meteorite one offered) aren't issued by/representitive of rulers that were as brutal and as bloodthirsty as Hitler (if not as efficient)? Should the rare but valuable Roman coin commerating the brutal destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD (and that coin does exist) be destroyed because of what it supports and which Emperor it supports? What about artifacts from Lenin's USSR or Sadam's Iraq? What about having an autograph from Washington or Jefferson, since both were slave owners? If you bought one of those memorial coins supposed to be made with steel from the World Trade Center, does that mean that you support Osama for destroying them? People like collecting things related to famous people or events-- it doesn't have to mean that they endorse those people or events. Events and actions are meaningful. History is neutral. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Coins on meteorites
Yes Alex, my words were to harsh. On the other hand, everybody knows, that he stone is on public display since the 80ies in the museum. The few mentions of the stone in web, tell that the stone was proven to be a meteorite, although no publications are available and of course that statement has nothing to say. And ihmo that somebody with an official backround should take a glimpse on that stone, should have for the Meteoritical Society a higher priority than to nod through the 2347th H5, especially as it costs almost not a thing. Beside the chemical, petrological excellent knowledge the Met.Soc members undoubtly own and that the research on that exotic matters has of course the highest pertinance and importance, I think the subject meteorites per se is so small, that the history of them should be of course part of it and that in this case one even can't speak of a multidisciplinary endeavour. It's funny - the stone molders in the museum at a tourist frequented place, and on the other hand enormous efforts are done since decades to hunt stones in Antarctica. So instead to scold them I's better should beg them to go there. It's a comfort, warm corner of the world. Very scenic, great classical monuments, finds and archeological sites to visit, salubrious mediterranean cuisine, easy and cheap accessible via Paphos airport and finally you all could take a refreshing bath in the Sea after work. Hence somewhat less stressing and more distractive, than to crawl around in a cold tent on the icy end of the world :-). Sooo, let's do something constructive. Some of the classical coins depicting meteorites, you'll find online here (there exist many others not listed there). http://www.coinarchives.com/a/ It's searchable and there are also coin descriptions on German, so search for example for: Paphos AND ston Paphos AND stein stone stein baetyl baithyl omphalos meteorit in combination with (AND) the four most popular localities. Emesa Emisa Sidon Seleukia Seleukeia Seleucia Phoenik Phoenic will bring many results. Another searchable coin database is http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/index.html Much fun. A poor picture of the stone in the museum, you find here (not that one with the bird). http://www.geocities.com/Athens/9854/PageAph.html Another not better one here: http://www.indigogroup.co.uk/edge/blstone.htm Some informations about newer excavations: http://www.hist.unizh.ch/ag/paphos/project/index.html Unfortunately I can't find anymore a more detailled report online. Perhaps s.o. from Met.Soc may contact those archaelogists: Maier, Näf Wartburg ? Here's the museum - so if you plan a holiday... Sanctuary of Aphrodite - Palaipafos Museum Kouklia village, 14 km (9 miles) east of Pafos Tel: (06) 432180 Daily: 09:00-17:00 (Summer: 09:00-19:30) Entrance fees: C£0,75 All the Best. Martin By the way, on the other topic of the cultural heritage re coins and old tempel finds, I disagree with my dear collector friend Martin Altmann from Munich in his rather personal assessment about the intentions and goals of the Meteoritical Society, but on the other hand I, just like him, don´t understand why obviously nothing is done about these historically most important artifacts towards answering the very questions they raise. Dr. Grossman et al, your opinions on this would be welcome. Alex Berlin/Germany (..btw: also member of the MetSoc:-)) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list]OT Hitler Autograph disguised as meteorite coin
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 14:43:48 +0200, Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who do you think will buy that card? It's a huge difference between somebody selling or collecting let's say coins, stamps, books ect. as all stuff from that times is swastika-festooned, and this postcard and this glamourising happy-bithday-Hitler-devotional article. You want to make money with that card - 900$, you will make business with persons, who adhere to an inhuman hateful ideology, who costed the life of millions and millions of victims. Read the reviews on this link-- your head'll explode. :-) http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B4WLXZ/102-2283170-9187357 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay
Finaly one that it reasons Matteo --- Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: History is history. I don't see why we should have to devide it into history of the good guys that can be kept, and history of the bad guys that must be wiped from the Earth. As far as that goes, how do we know that ancient coins (such as the meteorite one offered) aren't issued by/representitive of rulers that were as brutal and as bloodthirsty as Hitler (if not as efficient)? Should the rare but valuable Roman coin commerating the brutal destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD (and that coin does exist) be destroyed because of what it supports and which Emperor it supports? What about artifacts from Lenin's USSR or Sadam's Iraq? What about having an autograph from Washington or Jefferson, since both were slave owners? If you bought one of those memorial coins supposed to be made with steel from the World Trade Center, does that mean that you support Osama for destroying them? People like collecting things related to famous people or events-- it doesn't have to mean that they endorse those people or events. Events and actions are meaningful. History is neutral. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Good old days
I just came across something that reminded me of the good in the old days. http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/HaagRcpt-002.JPG Cheers all, Kevin Forbes, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Paphos stone-current photo?
Hi Martin and List, Is there a recent photo of the Emesa (Paphos) stone available? A good photograph might at least give us a hint on whether this is a real meteorite. I tried Google but could only find images on ancient coins. Does one exist in any of the literature? Thanks, Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Good old days
Do you want to sell that autograph? ;] From: Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Good old days Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:54:43 +1000 I just came across something that reminded me of the good in the old days. http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/HaagRcpt-002.JPG Cheers all, Kevin Forbes, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Good old days
G'day Pete, well that put a smile on my dial, but it's not the ridgy didg mate, just the duplicate carbon copy. Kevin, VK3UKF. From: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Good old days Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:46:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [65.54.175.206] X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.175.46]) by mc12-f30.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Sun, 4 Sep 2005 08:46:45 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 4 Sep 2005 08:46:44 -0700 Received: from 65.54.175.206 by by104fd.bay104.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;Sun, 04 Sep 2005 15:46:44 GMT X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtfpLB7P/ybN8= X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2005 15:46:44.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA2B3620:01C5B167] Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do you want to sell that autograph? ;] From: Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Good old days Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 00:54:43 +1000 I just came across something that reminded me of the good in the old days. http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/HaagRcpt-002.JPG Cheers all, Kevin Forbes, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites
Hi all, the specimens that I put images of on my website that I obtained from Pareja Minerales do appear to be NWA 869. http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/Rissani-page_02.htm This surprised me a bit as I had a specimen that I purchased as NWA 869 at the beggining of the year that was mainly a dark brown matrix with light grey and some yellowish chondrules in it. Is NWA 869 so different in it's lithologies and between individual specimens ?? Kevin Forbes, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites
It will be great to see Ruben's research on this meteorite when its done. Should be an interesting piece in itself. Mark Ferguson (no where near Rissani) - Original Message - From: Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites Hi all, the specimens that I put images of on my website that I obtained from Pareja Minerales do appear to be NWA 869. http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/Rissani-page_02.htm This surprised me a bit as I had a specimen that I purchased as NWA 869 at the beggining of the year that was mainly a dark brown matrix with light grey and some yellowish chondrules in it. Is NWA 869 so different in it's lithologies and between individual specimens ?? Kevin Forbes, VK3UKF. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 02:26:08 +1000, Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This surprised me a bit as I had a specimen that I purchased as NWA 869 at the beggining of the year that was mainly a dark brown matrix with light grey and some yellowish chondrules in it. Is NWA 869 so different in it's lithologies and between individual specimens ?? I've uploded a few photos of some of my cut specimens of 869. You can see just from these few pieces some of the variety in apperances. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/869/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites in Temples Asia OT: Apology
Dear List, I am sorry for losing it when I saw the Happy Birthday card to Hitler. Back to meteorites: In Japan and China there are several temples and shrines that house meteorites. I have seen two in Japan and spend my spare time searching nearby Tokyo for others. Japanese collect rocks for gardens and most pre-war houses still have rock walls or rock gardens. Recently in China a meteorite was discovered in Xian in an ancient city. Martin thank you for all of your information concerning European Temple Stones. BTW I have a silver Celtic coin that appears to have three objects falling from the sky...I don`t know where it is now but perhaps can find it if someone wants to see a photo. Best Always in LIFE, Dirk...Tokyo Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
Hello http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6557533483rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AITrd=1 $8541/gr. a super record for a very little piece of Sienawell, in future when I sale my pieces of Siena I sale the 2 gr. slice for $17,000 ;-) ah Martin, Siena its 3.5 TKW and its fall several stones, not only one. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
Do you ever do anything but whine? You bitch when things sell too cheap, you bitch when things sell to expensive, you are a little crybaby idiot. Go back to selling Nazi crap, and leave meteorites to the professionals. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record Hello http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6557533483rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AITrd=1 $8541/gr. a super record for a very little piece of Sienawell, in future when I sale my pieces of Siena I sale the 2 gr. slice for $17,000 ;-) ah Martin, Siena its 3.5 TKW and its fall several stones, not only one. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites
I have put pics of the two very different NWA869s that I have been looking at http://www.qsl.net.vk3ukf/NWA869s.zip or alternatively http://www.qsl.net.vk3ukf/RISSANI-wholescanG8904.jpg and http://www.qsl.net.vk3ukf/NWA869-01ca.JPG Darrens possible_869b.JPG is the closest to my NWA869ca-01ca that I can see, but I can see similarities in the lithologies contained, just very vary amounts of. Kevin Forbes, Vk3UKF. I've uploded a few photos of some of my cut specimens of 869. You can see just from these few pieces some of the variety in apperances. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/869/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
Farmer I say to you this last words...stop do attack me, you have broken many meteorite collectors - see the answers on Meteorite Blogger - or you are jealous of the others real - and serious - meteorite dealers? I ask to the moderator of the list to take off Farmer from the list, he attack without not any motive the persons - and here in this message its visible! Ah farmer, i am under waith you here in Italy, i not have say you after Ensisheim for broken me the face how had you said here in list. Fifone. Matteo --- Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Do you ever do anything but whine? You bitch when things sell too cheap, you bitch when things sell to expensive, you are a little crybaby idiot. Go back to selling Nazi crap, and leave meteorites to the professionals. Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:45 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record Hello http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=6557533483rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AITrd=1 $8541/gr. a super record for a very little piece of Sienawell, in future when I sale my pieces of Siena I sale the 2 gr. slice for $17,000 ;-) ah Martin, Siena its 3.5 TKW and its fall several stones, not only one. Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 04:05:09 +1000, Kevin Forbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The links you gave were broken-- here they are with the extra period replaced with the slash: http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/NWA869s.zip http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/RISSANI-wholescanG8904.jpg http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/NWA869-01ca.JPG __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
FW: Re: [meteorite-list] Rissani meteorites links fixed sorry
Sorry about the broken links, thanks Darren for pointing them out. I have put pics of the two very different NWA869s that I have been looking at http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/NWA869s.zip or alternatively http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/RISSANI-wholescanG8904.jpg and http://www.qsl.net/vk3ukf/NWA869-01ca.JPG Darrens possible_869b.JPG is the closest to my NWA869ca-01ca that I can see, but I can see similarities in the lithologies contained, just very vary amounts of. Kevin Forbes, Vk3UKF. I've uploded a few photos of some of my cut specimens of 869. You can see just from these few pieces some of the variety in apperances. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/869/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Talking about the past
Greetings List Members: My mother was cleaning out an old storage room and found a box of mine that said keepsakes. The box dated back to the mid 80's. In it was something of mine I had thought had been lost along the years. http://www.nadurra.net/Image%20Files/P1010004.JPG A little Allende that I had purchased from Robert A. Haag. This little one now has a special place in my collection display. Juris Breikss [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Talking about the past: Allende
Hi Juris and List, Looks almost like a little Nuevo Mercurio but photos can be so very deceptive ! My mother was cleaning out an old storage room and found a box of mine that said keepsakes. The box dated back to the mid 80's. In it was something of mine I had thought had been lost along the years. http://www.nadurra.net/Image%20Files/P1010004.JPG A little Allende that I had purchased from Robert A. Haag. This little one now has a special place in my collection display. That's for sure, ... whatever it is. Allende, Nuevo Mercurio, Jilin, ... Thanks for sharing it ! Regards, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Talking about the past: Allende
Juris kindly wrote (in a private mail) : Unfortunately the box did not contain the receipt. It would have been interesting to see what I had paid for it. One of my sales lists from David New dated Fall 1987 has these Allende specimens -- an excerpt only : 1. 18 x 13 x 09 mm / 2.5 grams / $07.50 2. 20 x 15 x 15 mm / 4.5 grams / $13.50 3. 15 x 15 x 13 mm / 4.9 grams / $15.00 4. 20 x 15 x 14 mm / 5.5 grams / $16.50 5. 27 x 16 x 15 mm / 8.3 grams / $25.00 .. 7. 20 x 20 x 20 mm / 11 grams / $35.00 Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Killer asteroids
Killer Asteroids on the Science Channel featuring the Tagish Lake meteorite as well as others is currently playing. Check listings for future replays. Well worth watching Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Paphos stone-current photo?
Hi, Here is a link to a photo of the Paphos stone: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/b lack-stone-paphos.jpgimgrefurl=http://jesusneverexisted.com/islam2.htmlh=1 45w=100sz=4tbnid=R3f7OuyvnPEJ:tbnh=89tbnw=61hl=enstart=38prev=/image s%3Fq%3Dpaphos%2Bstone%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff% 3D1%26rls%3DSNYC,SNYC:2004-20,SNYC:en%26sa%3DN Thanks, Peter Scherff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob King Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 11:32 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Paphos stone-current photo? Hi Martin and List, Is there a recent photo of the Emesa (Paphos) stone available? A good photograph might at least give us a hint on whether this is a real meteorite. I tried Google but could only find images on ancient coins. Does one exist in any of the literature? Thanks, Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paphos stone-current photo?
On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 19:07:24 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Here is a link to a photo of the Paphos stone: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/b lack-stone-paphos.jpgimgrefurl=http://jesusneverexisted.com/islam2.htmlh=1 45w=100sz=4tbnid=R3f7OuyvnPEJ:tbnh=89tbnw=61hl=enstart=38prev=/image s%3Fq%3Dpaphos%2Bstone%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff% 3D1%26rls%3DSNYC,SNYC:2004-20,SNYC:en%26sa%3DN Now THAT'S what you call a long URL! Here is a direct link: http://jesusneverexisted.com/IMAGES/black-stone-paphos.jpg And the page it is shown on (scroll down about half way, on the far left side) http://jesusneverexisted.com/islam2.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Paphos stone-current photo?
The story is better on this one: http://www.indigogroup.co.uk/edge/blstone.htm Chauncey __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay
Interesting and logical perspective Darren. Jerry - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Rare roman coin with meteorite theme on Ebay On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 00:27:10 -0700 (PDT), drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: selling an autograph of one of the biggest MURDERERS on EARTH?? Why is Adoph Hitler`s autograph being offered by anyone; let anyone on this list SHAME ON YOU MATTEO! Was your link to a common coin to lead the NAZI lovers to YOU? Sick Burn such a sick piece of ink!! $900 for a fake? autograph of a MURDERER. Matteo, even I feel shame for you. Dirk Ross..Tokyo History is history. I don't see why we should have to devide it into history of the good guys that can be kept, and history of the bad guys that must be wiped from the Earth. As far as that goes, how do we know that ancient coins (such as the meteorite one offered) aren't issued by/representitive of rulers that were as brutal and as bloodthirsty as Hitler (if not as efficient)? Should the rare but valuable Roman coin commerating the brutal destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD (and that coin does exist) be destroyed because of what it supports and which Emperor it supports? What about artifacts from Lenin's USSR or Sadam's Iraq? What about having an autograph from Washington or Jefferson, since both were slave owners? If you bought one of those memorial coins supposed to be made with steel from the World Trade Center, does that mean that you support Osama for destroying them? People like collecting things related to famous people or events-- it doesn't have to mean that they endorse those people or events. Events and actions are meaningful. History is neutral. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: I ask to the moderator of the list to take off Farmer from the list, he attack without not any motive the persons - and here in this message its visible! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off (ROFLMAO) ! This from the person who was banned and bragged about having so many list subscriptions and pen names they he could never be effectively banned? How can you tell when Matteo is whinning? His mouth is moving and/or he is emailing the meteorite central list. Mike made a good point Matteo--if you go back and look at the archives of your posts they fall into 5 categories Whine about Ebay (40%) Whine about High Prices (2%) Whine about low prices(4%) Whine about the list (33%) Brags about your adds, sales, finds, collection, or acquisitions(19%) Always followed by a whinne! Try to get control of yout attitude and your reality. There is mnore to life then meteorites. Most Sincerely, Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - September 2, 2005
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Studying the Summit - sol 584-591, Sept 02, 2005: Perched on the crest Husband Hill, Spirit took images for a summit panorama and used instruments on the robotic arm to investigate soil targets. Science team has compiled a list of experiments they would like Spirit to execute while the rover is on the summit. This list includes: o Assess the inner basin and image potential drive paths o Assess the surrounding terrain and image Cumberland Ridge o Routinely observe the atmosphere during the day and the moons at night o Study undisturbed soils, scuffed soils, and drift deposits o Study the structural geology of Husband Hill, including dips o Observe outcrops and rocks o Take images for a rover self-portrait o Complete a panorama on top of the Columbia Hills o Finalize exit strategy Spirit has already completed some of the above observations. It has taken frames for the self-portrait, looked at soil targets, and imaged the two moons of Mars -- Phobos and Deimos -- twice. After completing the initial summit imaging, Spirit drove southeast to another point in the crest area to assess more of the Cumberland Ridge and surrounding terrain. Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 585 (Aug. 25, 2005): Spirit performed remote sensing operations, did a Moessbauer spectrometer integration, and imaged Phobos and Deimos. Sol 586: Spirit performed remote sensing operations, did a Moessbauer spectrometer integration, and imaged the rover deck. Sol 587: Spirit changed tools from the Moessbauer spectrometer to the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer. Sol 588: Spirit continued with robotic arm operations using the microscopic imager and alpha particle X-ray spectrometer. Sol 589: Spirit retracted the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer and stowed the robotic arm. The rover backed away to image the area where the robotic arm had been working, then drove to the southeast. Drive distance for the sol was 21 meters (69 feet). Sol 590: Spirit continued the drive in the east-southeast direction for another 14.2 meters (47 feet). Sol 591: Spirit turned to point the UHF antenna for better communications with the Odyssey orbiter. Spirit performed remote sensing at South Point 1. As of the end of sol 591, (Sept. 1, 2005), Spirit has driven 4,862 meters (3.02 miles). OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Cautious Recovery - sol 566-573, Sept 02, 2005: Recovery from the sol 563 power-off event is well underway. Each sol, the team has planned one new activity. By sol 570 (Aug. 31, 2005), the rover had successfully performed observations with the panoramic camera, navigation camera, and miniature thermal emission spectrometer and had completed a short alpha particle X-ray spectrometer integration (with the robotic arm stowed) and a 6.5-meter (21-foot) blind drive. Additional precautions are being taken with each sol's plan, including shutting down after the morning uplink (to save the high-gain antenna position, thus preventing an X-band fault in case of another anomaly) and waiting 15 minutes after wakeup to start any science activities. Sol-by sol summaries: Sols 566 through 568 (Aug. 27 through Aug. 29, 2005) were devoted to engineering activities. Science activities were put on hold over the weekend while engineers investigated the sol 563 reset. Sol 569: Spirit completed step two in the post-anomaly recovery plan: a short blind drive. (Step one, remote sensing with the panoramic camera and navigation camera, was performed on sol 565). The 6.5-meter (21-foot) drive executed perfectly, and all motor currents were nominal. Sol 570: This sol marked the first use of the miniature thermal emission spectrometer since the sol 563 reset, which was step three in recovery from the anomaly. After waking from a nap and waiting 15 minutes, the rover performed a short alpha particle X-ray spectrometer integration with the robotic arm stowed. This was simply to test the payload service board, which controls the spectrometers. Five minutes after the end of the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer test, a low-elevation raster was taken successfully with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The resulting data product has been received on Earth. Sol 571: Spirit completed a blind drive of 11.8 meters (38.7 feet) designed to take it across some outcrop then over a small ripple. Sols 572 and 573 (Sept. 2 and Sept. 3, 2005): Commands sent for these sols are for observations with the panoramic camera and navigation camera. Opportunity's total distance driven on Mars, as of Sept. 2, 2005, is 5,755 meters (3.58 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Charity Raffle Update, Sunday
Dear Friends and Meteorite Community Colleagues: Good evening all. I am very pleased to be able to share this image with you: http://www.aerolite.org/1000.htm It is a receipt from the American Red Cross Hurricane Relief Fund 2005 for $1,000. That is the amount of money which I sent in today -- a direct result of your very generous contributions to our charity raffle. I had to list my own name, as the transfer came from my account, but I listed Meteorite Community as the company, and that's something I hope you can all feel very good about. I also hope we'll be able to send in a lot more $$ during the coming week. I received more than ten new prizes today, and photos will be added to the charity raffle website tomorrow. These include rare Nininger books; excellent meteorite specimens from the Michael Farmer Collection and Impactika; a two-year subscription to Meteorite magazine; with more items on the way . . . and we are working on a special surprise super-prize which I hope to announce tomorrow. We are still accepting donations of meteorite-related prizes. Raffle ticket sales continue at http://www.aerolite.org/meteorite-raffle.htm I will post another update tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who is supporting this venture. Geoff N. Tucson, AZ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
3. Do NOT post private messages or personal attacks to the list. a yes yes I have understandFarmer its untouchablethe Holy.Probably you not have see Jones, I have stoped to attack Farmer in the list many time ago - mo sense lose words with a person that it does not reason -, but this have re-start to broken to me with no sense...its the time to give a regulated to the boiling spirits of Farmer Matteo --- Elton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: I ask to the moderator of the list to take off Farmer from the list, he attack without not any motive the persons - and here in this message its visible! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off (ROFLMAO) ! This from the person who was banned and bragged about having so many list subscriptions and pen names they he could never be effectively banned? How can you tell when Matteo is whinning? His mouth is moving and/or he is emailing the meteorite central list. Mike made a good point Matteo--if you go back and look at the archives of your posts they fall into 5 categories Whine about Ebay (40%) Whine about High Prices (2%) Whine about low prices(4%) Whine about the list (33%) Brags about your adds, sales, finds, collection, or acquisitions(19%) Always followed by a whinne! Try to get control of yout attitude and your reality. There is mnore to life then meteorites. Most Sincerely, Elton M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.beta.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: Rare roman coin with meteorite, theme on Ebay
History is history. I don't see why we should have to devide it into history of the good guys that can be kept, and history of the bad guys that must be wiped from the Earth. ...[snip] If you bought one of those memorial coins supposed to be made with steel from the World Trade Center, does that mean that you support Osama for destroying them? People like collecting things related to famous people or events-- it doesn't have to mean that they endorse those people or events. Events and actions are meaningful. History is neutral. ...[etc]. Sorry Darren, but I think you are pretty naive here. You cannot pretend a Hitler autograph is in the same category as one of say Marylin Monroe; just an item of historical interest. Hitler memorabilia are quite often not collected because of their historic value or because Hitler was and is famous. Let me put it clearly: Hitler memorabilia are quite often collected by people that march in the streets on the birthday of Hitler, dressed in black leather boots with bald shaved heads and carrying red, white and black coloured flags with thinly disguised swastika's, shouting slogans like Auslander aus!. These prints of Hitler hang over their beds, along with flags with not-so-disguised swastika's, and these people will deny the holocaust when you talk with them in private. If you get the chance, you should visit Dresden or another Neo-Nazi stronghold, preferably on a date that has Nazi-historic connotations. That will open your eyes. Now this might not mean much to you, but it means much to many Europeans, both nazi victims and their children who are second generation war victims (and I know all too well what that means...) as well as historically sensitive civilians of Germany and the former occupied territories. History is not neutral here in formerly occupied Europe with regard to the Nazi era. That era is still very close, and the suffering was immense and goes on untill this day. It barely is history in that sense, it is not something that is over and done with. Why do you think that countries like Germany and my country (Holland) have laws that prohibit selling Mein Kampf or publicly showing swastika's? You do realize that Holland is (in)famous for being very liberal in many things do you? Why do you think we are not so liberal on this point? The answer is above. Again, I reiterate that the critique Matteo has gotten, is the result of his own choices. He should *know* how sensitive these things are. If he chooses to ignore that, he'll have to bear the critique and accept that people will condemn him. That has been his own willing choice. - Marco - Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DMS website: http://www.dmsweb.org private website: http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looking for Cosmic Debris
Hi, I'm looking to buy a copy of Cosmic Debris: Meteorites in History for less that $60. Impossible? Possibly, but my situation forces me to try. Any beat-up, coffee-stained, blood-stained copy would be gratefully considered. Please contact me at this address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Many thanks, Chris ___ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
mo sense lose words with a person that it does not reason I concur Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record 3. Do NOT post private messages or personal attacks to the list. a yes yes I have understandFarmer its untouchablethe Holy.Probably you not have see Jones, I have stoped to attack Farmer in the list many time ago - mo sense lose words with a person that it does not reason -, but this have re-start to broken to me with no sense...its the time to give a regulated to the boiling spirits of Farmer Matteo --- Elton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: I ask to the moderator of the list to take off Farmer from the list, he attack without not any motive the persons - and here in this message its visible! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off (ROFLMAO) ! This from the person who was banned and bragged about having so many list subscriptions and pen names they he could never be effectively banned? How can you tell when Matteo is whinning? His mouth is moving and/or he is emailing the meteorite central list. Mike made a good point Matteo--if you go back and look at the archives of your posts they fall into 5 categories Whine about Ebay (40%) Whine about High Prices (2%) Whine about low prices(4%) Whine about the list (33%) Brags about your adds, sales, finds, collection, or acquisitions(19%) Always followed by a whinne! Try to get control of yout attitude and your reality. There is mnore to life then meteorites. Most Sincerely, Elton M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.beta.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to get The Fiery Snake of Tsarev
Hello, Can anyone help me get a quick scan or photocopy of this article? The Fiery Snake of Tsarev. Authors: Gallant, A. R. Journal: Meteorite, Vol. 5, p. 8-11 (1999). I'd pay any costs incurred, of course. Thank you, Chris ___ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to get The Fiery Snake of Tsarev - note
NOTE: If you can help, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] How can I change my list membership to this address? I tried through the webpage but it hasn't helped. Hello, Can anyone help me get a quick scan or photocopy of this article? The Fiery Snake of Tsarev. Authors: Gallant, A. R. Journal: Meteorite, Vol. 5, p. 8-11 (1999). I'd pay any costs incurred, of course. Thank you, Chris ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record
Rob, A yes! but this have re-start to broken to me with no sense... I concur with your comments with this provisio, I think--- Norm --- Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mo sense lose words with a person that it does not reason I concur Rob Wesel http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2005 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Siena on Ebay: a record 3. Do NOT post private messages or personal attacks to the list. a yes yes I have understandFarmer its untouchablethe Holy.Probably you not have see Jones, I have stoped to attack Farmer in the list many time ago - mo sense lose words with a person that it does not reason -, but this have re-start to broken to me with no sense...its the time to give a regulated to the boiling spirits of Farmer Matteo --- Elton Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: I ask to the moderator of the list to take off Farmer from the list, he attack without not any motive the persons - and here in this message its visible! Rolling on the floor laughing my a$$ off (ROFLMAO) ! This from the person who was banned and bragged about having so many list subscriptions and pen names they he could never be effectively banned? How can you tell when Matteo is whinning? His mouth is moving and/or he is emailing the meteorite central list. Mike made a good point Matteo--if you go back and look at the archives of your posts they fall into 5 categories Whine about Ebay (40%) Whine about High Prices (2%) Whine about low prices(4%) Whine about the list (33%) Brags about your adds, sales, finds, collection, or acquisitions(19%) Always followed by a whinne! Try to get control of yout attitude and your reality. There is mnore to life then meteorites. Most Sincerely, Elton M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Yahoo! Messenger: chiamate gratuite in tutto il mondo http://it.beta.messenger.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
