[meteorite-list] mega chondrule/cosmic onion
Hi list.I just got my COSMIC ONION from marcin and it is very nice.There are 2 BIG chondruleson it.The front one is 1.1 cm the back side is 1 cm on the backside.It is nwa 4431.It really is great looking meteorite.Thanks to marcin for making this available. steve arnold Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Concerning Big Steve Arnold`s HOLE Canyon Diablo
Dear List, It appears to me that the Canyon Diablo with a hole, that Steve Arnold purchased, has a hole due to natural rusting of the meteorite and that the hole was not caused by entry of the meteorite into the atmosphere. Something like a rusted steel can, does it have any special value because it has a rusted hole? I have seen only the photos presented. When iron meteorites rust they often rust in semi-circular pockets and the oxide is lost as iron shale. It is also feasible that a hole could be made by purposefully encouraging a hole to grow with water and time, or with mechanical means. I cannot comment on this specimen, but I have seen it done on other meteorites. Enjoy your hole Steve; it seems you have quite a collection of them. Best Always, Dirk...Tokyo __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rob's Comet's Exciting Explosion Part II
Hello Listees, Rob's eerie green Comet has just exploded majestically as it has made time receding from the Sun. This is fascinating and this is big news for Comet people. OK, exploded is dramatic - I should say it had an unexpected outburst and just got 5-10 times brighter while it was just on its way out and ready to wane quickly. I'm sure if we were on the comet that would be a mean explosion. It now kicks the butt of SW3 in brightness. As the Moon is getting stronger, Wednesday night (tonight, and maybe one more night) is basically the last chance unless something else fantastic happens like just did to this comet 10 hours ago or so. Congratulations, Rob, your Comet just turned into one of the top 6 or so performers of the last decade! The outburst is nice! Here's a comparison with a normal consumer digital camera nights of , widest angle setting (35mm equivalent zoom setting of a 35-200). Lat. @ 30º24' 20:50PM EDT (same time, 120 min after Sunset, and place both days). Transparency was a little worse the second night, but a great Milky Way sky both times. www.diogenite.com/061024-25.jpg The top is the evening of 2006 Oct 23 which is: C/2006 M4 (SWAN) 2006 Oct. 24.04 UT: m1=5.9, Dia.= 8', DC=7 above average transparency vis. LM = 6.0 The bottom is the evening of 2006 Oct 24 which is: C/2006 M4 (SWAN) 2006 Oct. 25.04 UT: m1=4.4, Dia.= 8', DC=8 average transparency vis. LM = 5.6 If you want to see the magnitudes of the comparison stars in the side-by-side photo above, they here is a star chart showing the positions of the comet both nights and magnitudes of the stars.: www.diogenite.com/mag.jpg The C shaped constellation is Corona Borealis, just under Hercules and headed the Strongman's way. You can see how much the comet moved in two night and guess very accurately based on that where it will be tonight. It is not hard to find with binoculars. The comet is WNW. The camera and photos were the same, however it was somewhat colder the first night and better transparency, so the raw photos presented would have to be adjusted - better to just compare to their respective comparison stars. Outburst +1.5 magnitude brightening!! First comet I have seen naked eye since Kohoutek, thanks to the dark sky location. Still, C/2004 Q2 Machholz was slightly more impressive in the binoculars, though. This (Rob's) comet looked like a bright galaxy through the 10x50 consumer binoculars and during the most steady view through them, a short tail could be seen - but only under optimal conditions. The size of the comet reported was estimated in a 89mm Mak-Cassegrain telescope. Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: 2006 M4 (SWAN) dramatic brightening Easily visible in Nautical twilight? I just saw M4 last time from a dark sky, and it was similar to M13 in magnitude. Is something changing - this bright magnitude sounds too good to be true? Can someone else kindly confirm as it would be worth a 100 miles trip now? I'll upload a photo of Corona Borealis and the comet from a section of wide angle 35mm equivalent of the normal 135 film camera. It isn't good, but the comet is perceptible and green 2006 Oct 24.04 UT. (Taken last night EDT about 8:52 PM, 15 seconds exposure) www.diogenite.com/061024-06UT.JPG (should have been saved as 061024-04, not -06) Latitude 30º24' Vis. LM 6. The lower two stars of the C of Corona Borealis point to the comet which is dim but the greenest speck on the image, half way from the most counterclockwise star of CrB to the upper right corner of the image. I'm not comparing this to the nice photos recently posted on the internet, but posting it to to compare the magnitude...photographically at least... less than 20 hours ago Thanks kindly, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Thanks Dirk, Its nice to be aware of what a backstabbing lowlife prick Steve Arnold really is. Never again. The funny thing is if you look at my feedback from Spacecase33 you will see that I only paid $130 for the piece. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=maccers531iid=250040481690ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us Thanks for the $700 profit Steve ! - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to mefor $700.00 Dear List, Rubin has tried to post this to the list but has been unable to. I have offered to post it for him with his permission. --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to me for $700.00 http://mail.yahoo.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ruben.I am really sorry for this screw up.I want to make it to you.I gave bob evans,who is the real ass in this whole mess,$400 and $300 in meteorites.I will be willing to trade the cd piece to you for $700 worth of meteorites in trade to make this right.I know you really want this piece and you rightfully deserve it.Please let me know what I can do to work this out. steve Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Where's Martin A. (of Chladni's Hairs) Martin, what were you telling me about Tulipmania and meteorites the other day? That meteorites had nothing in common with Tulips in 1600's Amsterdam? Ehemmm. I rest my case. I just want to know who's going window shopping in Amsterdam for their new building after this Diablo massacre, with all these greenbacks. Über den Ursprung der von Diablo, Haro's Hair (been watching the sky all night, don't mind, g'nite) - Original Message - From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago Thanks Dirk, Its nice to be aware of what a backstabbing lowlife prick Steve Arnold really is. Never again. The funny thing is if you look at my feedback from Spacecase33 you will see that I only paid $130 for the piece. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=maccers531iid =250040481690ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us Thanks for the $700 profit Steve ! - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to mefor $700.00 Dear List, Rubin has tried to post this to the list but has been unable to. I have offered to post it for him with his permission. --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to me for $700.00 http://mail.yahoo.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ruben.I am really sorry for this screw up.I want to make it to you.I gave bob evans,who is the real ass in this whole mess,$400 and $300 in meteorites.I will be willing to trade the cd piece to you for $700 worth of meteorites in trade to make this right.I know you really want this piece and you rightfully deserve it.Please let me know what I can do to work this out. steve Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] apology to rubin
I have noticed on this list that alot of people just love to make private emails PUBLIC just so they can dump on people and make them look bad or feel bad.That is not right.I am sorry for what happened and I am trying to make this situation right.I will not name any names.I made a bad decision and I am sorry.But I am not the one to only blame.Antway I am trying to make this right.Also I did not say I was trying to SELL the piece back to rubin for $700.I said,and get this correct,I said I would trade the piece to rubin for $700 in trade.NOWHERE did I say I would sell them for that price.Then after some list members decided to print private emails to the list,I changed my mind and said,to ruben that I would let him buy it back from me for $400 that I got it from and that I would take the $300 loss on the other pieces.I just want to let all know that I did not start this little missdeed.Anyway I am sorry it happened and I am trying to make it up to ruben by doing what I said I would do.Also as it has gone on for so long,private emails made public to this great list and great people,will be the death of this list yet.I am only trying to cover my ass and try to rectify a wrong.But as I said,I have not named names and I will not,but this was not started by me,it was only eneded by me.But that is where I made the mistake.Again I am sorry and throwing names out publicly is JUST WRONG.I hope this can be put to bed and we can get on with this. steve arnold Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! Website://:stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Hi Doug, well I'm quiet, because I rather like to spend my time with jewels from space than with those jewels of the collectorship. But if you ask Steve, The list members ask themselves: There are so many fascinating occupations and activities to spend one's spare-time - why in your case it had to be meteorites?! Steve, philately can be a highly satisfying field of collection, coins, to learn to play an instrument is a fun, yoga makes you calm and keeps you agile till the winter of your old-age. What about a nice rose garden or growing orchids? Hey or join a rifle club (the best idea I had today, hehe). Please learn some considerateness and spare this list with your mails. Well and with this Canyon-thing. I think it's very easy. I'm not a lawyer, but Ebay is not a game; if a seller offers something and a buyer clicks on the Buy-It-Now-button, we have a contract. The Canyon wasn't destroyed, nor lost, nor was the auction a misapprehension by the seller. But we don't have to make it complicated. So I think, as it is good standard and necessary for his further reputation as a seller, Bob won't not only send the money back to Ruben, but will send him also a nice meteorite as an apologize for his lapsus (we're all humans), so that Ruben will be pleased and the world pink again. So simple life can be. Buckleboo! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 13:17 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago Where's Martin A. (of Chladni's Hairs) Martin, what were you telling me about Tulipmania and meteorites the other day? That meteorites had nothing in common with Tulips in 1600's Amsterdam? Ehemmm. I rest my case. I just want to know who's going window shopping in Amsterdam for their new building after this Diablo massacre, with all these greenbacks. Über den Ursprung der von Diablo, Haro's Hair (been watching the sky all night, don't mind, g'nite) - Original Message - From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago Thanks Dirk, Its nice to be aware of what a backstabbing lowlife prick Steve Arnold really is. Never again. The funny thing is if you look at my feedback from Spacecase33 you will see that I only paid $130 for the piece. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=maccers531iid =250040481690ssPageName=VIP:feedback:2:us Thanks for the $700 profit Steve ! - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:20 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to mefor $700.00 Dear List, Rubin has tried to post this to the list but has been unable to. I have offered to post it for him with his permission. --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:30:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fwd: In this one steve trys to sell it back to me for $700.00 http://mail.yahoo.com Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 15:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi ruben.I am really sorry for this screw up.I want to make it to you.I gave bob evans,who is the real ass in this whole mess,$400 and $300 in meteorites.I will be willing to trade the cd piece to you for $700 worth of meteorites in trade to make this right.I know you really want this piece and you rightfully deserve it.Please let me know what I can do to work this out. steve Steve Arnold,Chicago,USA!! BIG Steve's Meteorites,1999!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Martin, You gave us so many options to fill up our spare time. What about that window shopping in Amsterdam that Doug mentioned? You should give it a try !! Especialy in the Red Light District!!! Not cheapbut fun for sure. Welcome to Holland, Jan Heavenly Bodies (now this suddenly sounds funny !!) Meteorites. Holland www.heavenlybodies.nl The list members ask themselves: There are so many fascinating occupations and activities to spend one's spare-time - why in your case it had to be meteorites?! Steve, philately can be a highly satisfying field of collection, coins, to learn to play an instrument is a fun, yoga makes you calm and keeps you agile till the winter of your old-age. What about a nice rose garden or growing orchids? Hey or join a rifle club (the best idea I had today, hehe) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold!
Hello Ruben, Dave, and list, I do not want to sound like I am sticking up for anyone, but Steve already had this meteorite on Friday Oct 21st. Maybe Bob did not take the auction down in time, or maybe even not at all. I am sure it was all just a mistake. I do not know either of these guys, how ever I have talked to Steve a little through my forum. I am not sticking up for anyone, just trying to clear up a problem. I know that Steve had this meteorite on Friday, because he posted on my forum to go to his site and look at his new Canyon Diablo with a hole. You can go to the thread if you want to see for yourself. It is like the 5th reply( on the second page).http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1157416963/25#25Thanks,Joe Kerchnerhttp://illinoismeteorites.com- Original Message From: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:30:44 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold!My "DO NOT BUY FROM..." list just got bigger.Dave- Original Message - From: "Ruben Garcia" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:59 PMSubject: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold! Hi List, Just thought everyone should be aware of the double dealing these two have been involved in. Last Wednesday evening(Oct 18, 2006) Bob Evans sent a post to the Meteorite List with this heading. [meteorite-list] Ad- Collection meteorites Oriented Iron with hole, Park Fores... I immediately read his post and then looked at the Canyon Diablo with a hole that he had for sale. The Canyon D. looked good and so I hit the "Buy it Now". I then paid via Paypal and the transaction was done. After a few minutes I emailed Bob asking him to add delivery confirmation and also to let me know when it was shipped as I wanted to watch for it. I left town on Friday (it was another Glorieta weekend more on that later)still not having heard from Bob. When I returned Sunday night I was shocked to see Steve had sent it in as the "Rocks From Space Picture of the Day" I then looked at Big Steves "Very brand new updated meteorite site" and he has the very same meteorite that I had bought and paid for. Its on his new to his collection page. Of course I emailed both but neither has replied! I just checked my Paypal account and it does look like Bob canceled my payment so I don't think I'm out any money. Just thought everyone should know. p.s. On the bright side some lucky person that actually reads Big Steves ridiculous posts will get to buy it a week or so at half the price! Ruben Garcia__ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-Chondrule
Hello All, On my previous reply I meant to type 30-35% not 40-45%. I just thought I would clear this up.Thanks,Joe Kerchner- Original Message From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 4:31:33 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleHello List, This is a piece that I thought was considered duel lithogy, but I was told by a pretty relible person
that the dark part is an inclusion, maybe even a chondrule, or a "DI" Dark Inclusion. The first link is to a photo of the main mass cut in half. The second link shows multiple photos of each half. This is a very interesting piece. The full stone was 163.8 grams. The dark part (chondrule,or incllusion,or different loithogy) covers about 40-45% of the stone.The 2 halves.http://illinoismeteorites.com/images/duellith5.JPGMultiple photos of each stone, main mass, and descriptions.http://illinoismeteorites.com/saharanmeteorites.htmThanks,Joe Kerchner,http://illinoismeteorites.com- Original
Message From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:49:56 AMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleHi Marcin,Good thread! NWA 2892 is a hard one to beat for Macrochondrules! This slicehas a 13.5mmx11mm chondrule.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/august2005.htmlAnd NWA 4040 has some very large pale ('bright') inclusions. This one is38mmx28mm at widest points.http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite/september2006.htmlCheers,Jeff- Original Message -From: PolandMETTo: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 3:22
AMSubject: [meteorite-list] Mega-ChondruleSoIf we are at this very interesting topic, maybe we make a little competition?Who have the biggest:a) complete chondrule (Gujba rulez ?)b) strange inclusion (exclude breccia fragments ofcourse)adA) My chondrule You know, I have the mirror slice of this one from ebay.size 9x9mmB) Here is my slice that I show maybe one year ago. Its slice with thebiggest inclusionhttp://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/nwa4432_inclusion.jpgSize 30x23mm, non chondritich inclusion. Cumulative inclusion
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RE: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Title: RE: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. Quite so. Most strewn fields aren't discovered until well after their falls, by which time they become recovery fields. The distinction is perhaps subtle, but certainly real since meteorites (once landed) don't stay in place forever. None of the strewn fields in California/Nevada/Arizona/Texas are truly strewn fields, given that many of them have moved since their original falls. --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - CK3, CK3, CK3...
Dear Listees, Michèle Denise (MNHNP) provides us new classification for some meteorites few days ago. Here are the results: NWA 4421, CO3.2, S3, W3/4 NWA 4422, CK3.9, S1, W2 NWA 4423, CK3.8, S2, W3 NWA 4424, LL5, S3, W4 NWA 4425, CK3.8, S2, W3 NWA 4426, H5, S1/2, W4 NWA 4427, H5, S1/2, W4 NWA 4459, H3.2/3.3, S2, W3 Some of them are on eBay, these auctions ending tonight: NWA 4421 Meteorite - CO3.2 - Slice - 1.30g - NEW ! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4421-Meteorite-CO3-2-Slice-1-30g- NEW_W0QQitemZ140044302241QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem NWA 4422 Meteorite - CK3.9 - Thin Slice - 2.042g - NEW! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4422-Meteorite-CK3-9-Thin-Slice-2-042g- NEW_W0QQitemZ140044302554QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem NWA 4423 Meteorite - CK3.8 - Thin Slice - 2.203g - NEW! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4423-Meteorite-CK3-8-Thin-Slice-2-203g- NEW_W0QQitemZ140044302835QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem NWA 4425 Meteorite - CK3.8 - Thin Slice - 5.924g - NEW! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4425-Meteorite-CK3-8-Thin-Slice-5-924g- NEW_W0QQitemZ140044303278QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem NWA 4427 Meteorite - H5 - Slice - 4.185g - NEW ! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4427-Meteorite-H5-Slice-4-185g- NEW_W0QQitemZ140044303367QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem NWA 4459 Meteorite - H3.2/3.3 - Thin Slice 1.52g RARE!! http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-4459-Meteorite-H3-2-3-3-Thin-Slice-1-52g- RARE_W0QQitemZ140044303469QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3239QQcmdZViewItem Best wishes, Philippe METEORITICA http://www.meteoritica.com/ http://stores.ebay.com/Meteoritica __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
Hi, all, This discussion about chondrules is fascinating! Hoping not to digress off this topic too much, but a question I have is about the metal flecks (not the later-formed iron meteorites) in any of the stonies. Have they ever been given an estimated age? If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? And that they came from a distance much further than our solar system's vicinity? Considering that the supernova is exploding outward and the new elements' density is thinning out very quickly, wouldn't it be more likely that these iron and nickel flecks that eventually found a new home in our solar nebula and meteorites have come from more than one, probably a lot more, supernova? If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! http://images.google.ca/images?q=helix+nebulahl=enlr=sa=Xoi=imagesct=title Not even a wisp left... Are tiny, but very dense, nebulas even possible? I can't imagine dust-bunny nebulae. If not, would it be unreasonable to expect that our planetary nebula could have extended out to Centauri, where our closest star neighbours are? When I dwell on the Pillars of Creation photos (Orion stellar-formation nebula, http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1995/44/image/a) that describes a small point being comparable to the breadth of our solar system, ~4.3 light-years to Centauri isn't that far... Maybe the seldom-discussed/appreciated metal flecks are the real gems in the meteorites? Or, is the nebula in my head too dense that am I just missing something obvious? How is my logic flawed? Cheers, Pete From: Warin Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:53 + (GMT) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which chondrules were formed in relatively very few privileged zones of space. They would then form through one or more impacts of relatively large asteroids, onto the parent body covered with regoliths (and even with megaregoliths). The excellent book of Derek Sears, entitled The origin of chondrules and chondrites (Cambridge Planetary Science, 2004) supports this hypothesis. In corollary, ordinary chondrites (85% on Earth) would be quite rare in cosmos, and only few parent bodies would produce chondrites. Glad to hear some comments on the above assumptions. Thanks, Roger Warin - Message d'origine De : Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc : E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé le : Dimanche, 22 Octobre 2006, 20h38mn 55s Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Hi, Ed, Rob, This scenario (Ed's) would require that we would find a chondrule with a formation age of 3.9 Gya, I think. As far as I know, that has never happened. All chondrites (so called because they contain chondrules) are the same age: about 4.555 Gya. Chondrules are the same age (2 to 5 million years variation among chondrules) as the chondrites they occur in. The about is because the dating methods have a limit to how precisely they can resolve small age differences. Dating by lead isotopes says the solar system is 4.560 +/- 0.005 Gya old. Other systems of isotope measurements (like 147Sm/143Nd) give 4.553 +/- 0.003, and so forth. Within the limits of measurement, all chondrites are the same age, a hair younger than the solar system itself, the Class of Zero, and so are their chondrules. Meteorites that do not (never did) contain chondrules have varying ages. Lunaites are the age of that portion of the lunar crust they came from, generally quite old compared to Martians which have the formation age of the basalt flow they were chipped off of for the long haul to Earth. Irons, which formed inside a differentiating body, have younger ages; some very much younger if the differentiation took a long time (Weekeroo Station IIe is 4.340 Gya, Kodaikanal IIe 3.800 Gya, many IAB irons the same). I'm thinking that before you need to develop a theory to explain a 3.9 Gya chondrule, you'd have to actually have a 3.9 Gya chondrule. As far as I know, none with discordant ages have ever been found. In certain solar circles it would be Big News. Oddly, if you Google for oldest chondrule, you get the oldest chondrules, and if you Google for youngest chondrule, you get the oldest chondrules... on the grounds that it is young as the solar system. If you Google for
[meteorite-list] living near a strewnfield
9 miles from Crumlin 40 miles from Bovedy Jim Brady p.s. thanks again Ruben for sharing your glorietta hunt __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] I seen 2 Fireballs land in just under 24hours WOW
Hello List, I just seen my second Fireball in about 24 hours. I don't know what I did to deserve this? I have only seen one land close to me. Here are my descriptions of them. And of the other one that I seen this year (three of em total). I have also described two that landed within 30 miles of me that were witnessed by other people, All this year. First off, lastnight on my way home from work I saw a fireball land near Ottawa, IL. I seen it at 12:17am on Tuesday Oct 24th 2006. It had a reddish/orange tail and the object/meteorite appeared to be purple, it was that close where I could see it in detail. It was actually traveling pretty slow, I do not know if it broke up before I saw it. When I first seen it I was driving North and out of my drivers side window I saw for about 3-4 seconds, it seemed longer. It started sither above me or East of me, that why I said I don't know if it broke apart, I did not see it the whole time. I would say it landed between 2-5 miles away, I am sure it landed just south of N33th RD, not more than 100yds and between E15th and E10th Rd. Now, for the second one. I seen it on Tuesday Oct 24th at 11:48pm (almost 24hrs after the previous one) Tonite on the way home from work I saw ANOTHER one, this one was about 20 miles West from the other one. I was turning the corner out in the country when I seen it, it had a low trajectory and it burnt out and broke up close to the ground. The trail on this one was light orange, I did not the the meteor this time, it was traveling much faster than the previous one. It landed just South and West of Mendota, IL. It lasted( I saw it) for about 2 seconds. Man I can not believe that I saw another fireball, this is the secon one that I seen land near Mendota in a year (the other was in June 2006). If I am able to find just one of these that would be AWSOME!!! This would be the third one (fireball that landed as a meteorite) that I saw this year, WOW very unbelivable. What is even more unbelievable, is that I know of 5 total that fell within 30 miles of Mendota, IL this year. Maybe this is the new Meteorite Fall Capitol of the world. If people do not believe that I saw these, I will hopefully prove it when I find one of them, everyone will be able to tell by the freshness, I hope. Out of the three that I saw, two of them were very close to Mendota, IL. The others were near Ladd, IL and Ottawa, IL. I sure hope that I am able to find at least one of these, I have a vague idea where at least four of them are, the fifth one I am not so sure of. The ones that I saw landed close, I know this for sure. I have seen many many meteors/ falling stars and fireballs over the years and even this year( far away and close). I know for a fact that these ones landed somewhat close, I am sure of it. I am taking the other guys on thier word. The guy (Sergio Garcia)said that he and his daughter saw it come in and "explode" over a beanfield near Mendota. We have been searching that field, with no luck so far, but we have may have found a possible iron meteorite in the same field. This was in Early spring, no date. The one that landed near Ladd, IL was seen by at least five people that I know of. One of the guys called me right after they saw it, he was very excited at the time. I could also hear the people in the background talking to each other about it. He said they heard it "whistle and roar". He said it last almost a minute and that he thinks it landed at least 10 miles away, between Princeton and Ladd. This was seen on May 22 at 9:35pm.Thanks,Joe Kerchnerhttp://illinoismeteorites.com__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] homeboy meteorites on ebay:Living near a strewnfield
Evening listees This character homeboy was trying to sell meteorites for $5,000,000.He's actually got a bid on a 'diamond cluster' for that very amount. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300039157508 Re: living near a strewnfield.I'm 9 miles from Crumlin,about 40 from Bovedy couple of pics here of me holding Bovedy main mass.Part of British and Irish Meteorite Society albums http://tech.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/britishandirishmeteoritesociety/photos/browse/c7da not sure if you can view without being a member but I hope so Jim __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold!
But...but.Dirk, why do you pick on our poor stttevvv? DF drtanuki wrote: Dear Ruben and List, Rubin you now have proof positive for eBay that Big Steve was selling outside of eBay and thus he can get the boot from eBaygood riddens!!! Please follow through with a complaint to eBay and save us from all of Big Steve`s auction postings. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Bob, of coure Steve made an extraordinary trade offer, he is Steve Arnold! But once I hit the "Buy it Now" and paid for it you didn't own it. I did. The right thing to do was call up Big Steve and tell him to contact me with his offer. Ruben __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] living near a strewfield
Hi EMan and list, So a strewnfield does not exist until proven, regardless of the fact that little or no effort has been made in the investigation of a given fall/find? I can see that. Still, I'd like to believe they're there just as any cold find sets a hunter in motion. Bill -- Original message -- From: Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Me thinks we are stretching the definition and/or conventional use of the term strewn field. A single stone-2-3 stones do not a strewn field make unless there is compelling evidence that there was a wide spread peppering of stones. We are talking meteorite showers here. Park Forest, Allende, Odessa, Canyon Diablo, Holbrook, Johnstown, Bilingua, Gold Basin, Tagish Lake, etc.. Have Strewn fields based on direct recovery.(forgive any mispellings cheap spell check) Peekskill, theoretically has a strewn field with 3 or more Peaks owing to sequential fragmentation--even though only one stone was recovered: over 75 fragments were seen to fall away from the swarm... New Orleans, Syllicaga, Westfield, etc...nada The whole issue of strewn field was based on a mathematical distribution ellipse that early researchers used to forecast an area to concentrate searching. To draw this elipse one needs technically 4 or more stones plotted less than. The ellipse is refined as more stones are recovered and plotted. a well defined ellipse(30+) typically means 90 95-98% of the time at least 95% of the distribution will fall within the ellipse. Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold!
Suzi, Your supposition would probably be correct if you were dealing with an intelligent buyer possessing a few grams of integrity. Best, John Gwilliam At 03:41 PM 10/23/2006, Platypus Girl wrote: This is just my opinion, but it seems to me that this simply could be some kind of mix-up, and we shouldn't act too hastily. If intentional double-dealing were going on, it doesn't seem likely that the meteorite would quickly be posted as a meteorite of the day right out for everyone to see. Suzi Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My DO NOT BUY FROM... list just got bigger. Dave - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia To: Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold! Hi List, Just thought everyone should be aware of the double dealing these two have been involved in. Last Wednesday evening(Oct 18, 2006) Bob Evans sent a post to the Meteorite List with this heading. [meteorite-list] Ad- Collection meteorites Oriented Iron with hole, Park Fores... I immediately read his post and then looked at the Canyon Diablo with a hole that he had for sale. The Canyon D. looked good and so I hit the Buy it Now. I then paid via Paypal and the transaction was done. After a few minutes I emailed Bob asking him to add delivery confirmation and also to let me know when it was shipped as I wanted to watch for it. I left town on Friday (it was another Glorieta weekend more on that later)still not having heard from Bob. When I returned Sunday night I was shocked to see Steve had sent it in as the Rocks From Space Picture of the Day I then looked at Big Steves Very brand new updated meteorite site and he has the very same meteorite that I had bought and paid for. Its on his new to his collection page. Of course I emailed both but neither has replied! I just checked my Paypal account and it does look like Bob canceled my payment so I don't think I'm out any money. Just thought everyone should know. p.s. On the bright side some lucky person that actually reads Big Steves ridiculous posts will get to buy it a week or so at half the price! Ruben Garcia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Steve Arnold Chicago
Yep Jeff.it's all in the genes mate...all in the genes !! Cheers, Jan I love Dutch humour! ;-) Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
AW: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Jan, spending a lot of time of the year in a region, where human trafficking and children slave trade is an industry, where women and children are displaced and sold to the brothels all over Western Europe, where the pimps let loose on eachother with sabers in full day-light on the main street of the city, where murderers and slave-traders wanted by Interpol do have there shops and restaurants on the main street, where they shake hands with the political prominence like the senator, the prefect, the mayor and the police president, where the controllers of the EU-development aid are each time invited for free in the local brothel, where they like it so much, that they paid the patron a complete hotel with tennis courts, instead to care for the money to be spent for schools, hospitals, infrastructure, I'd guess, I wouldn't have much fun in that form of window shopping. Welcome to the Baragan, welcome to EU. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Jan Bartels Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2006 15:52 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago Martin, You gave us so many options to fill up our spare time. What about that window shopping in Amsterdam that Doug mentioned? You should give it a try !! Especialy in the Red Light District!!! Not cheapbut fun for sure. Welcome to Holland, Jan Heavenly Bodies (now this suddenly sounds funny !!) Meteorites. Holland www.heavenlybodies.nl The list members ask themselves: There are so many fascinating occupations and activities to spend one's spare-time - why in your case it had to be meteorites?! Steve, philately can be a highly satisfying field of collection, coins, to learn to play an instrument is a fun, yoga makes you calm and keeps you agile till the winter of your old-age. What about a nice rose garden or growing orchids? Hey or join a rifle club (the best idea I had today, hehe) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago
Wow, Jan, I always thought heavenly body to be, in Holland, synonymous for round cheese ;) Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Jan Bartels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 3:51 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Steve Arnold Chicago Martin, You gave us so many options to fill up our spare time. What about that window shopping in Amsterdam that Doug mentioned? You should give it a try !! Especialy in the Red Light District!!! Not cheapbut fun for sure. Welcome to Holland, Jan Heavenly Bodies (now this suddenly sounds funny !!) Meteorites. Holland www.heavenlybodies.nl The list members ask themselves: There are so many fascinating occupations and activities to spend one's spare-time - why in your case it had to be meteorites?! Steve, philately can be a highly satisfying field of collection, coins, to learn to play an instrument is a fun, yoga makes you calm and keeps you agile till the winter of your old-age. What about a nice rose garden or growing orchids? Hey or join a rifle club (the best idea I had today, hehe) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Test
Looks like I'm ousted once again :-( .. or is it shipwrecked ;-) Test, please delete! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: More Historic offerings on ebay
http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=zagami Howdy Folks, Just a quick note to say that I posted some meteorites on ebay. Most are historic falls, but I did sprinkle in some finds, a few with museum documentation, a slice of Travis Co. with an 1890 publication about it, and a few rarely or never seen on ebay. Here's a few of the locations: Bath Bialystok Limerick Baszkówka ArroyoAguiar Juvinas Washougal Red Rock Shergotty Nakhla Pavlodar Siena Panhandle Kabo Ivuna Sardis Orgueil Soko-Banja An Amazing Breccia http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=zagami Thanks for checking, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? Of course the individual atoms in chondrules are much older than the chondrules themselves (but know knows exactly how many stellar generations ago) but as for the actual flecks of metal themselves, I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil seperating from water, the iron/nickel seperated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). Recently there has been news of studies on the decay products of short-lived supernova produced elements that show that there were supernovas very close (both in space and time) to the proto-solar system. (This article was posted 22 minutes ago as I'm finding it) http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/10/25/sun.sisters/ I believe (though I haven't googled up the articles related to it) that recent studies of elements and isotopes in certain meteorites suggest that components from at least 3 seperate supernovas contributed to the materials in the early solar system. If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! In our current position, it takes around 225 million years for one orbit of the center of the galaxy, or about 20 orbits since the birh of the sun. That's plenty of time and distance for a whole lot more than 450 light-years of drift between the sun and the nursery. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold!
Joe, As you have no doubt already seen on the list, Ruben had a contract with Bob at the instant he clicked on the Buy It Now option on eBay. Steve called Bob AFTER the transaction had been completed with Ruben and ended up with the meteorite. A slimey undertaking by both Steve and Bob. Bob as the owner of the meteorite should be held primarily responsible for this fiasco as he backed out of his obligation and contract to Ruben. Steve is also responsible as he went along with the trade knowing that the meteorite had been sold on eBay in the first place. Dave From: Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/10/23 Mon PM 10:13:38 CDT To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold! Hello Ruben, Dave, and list, I do not want to sound like I am sticking up for anyone, but Steve already had this meteorite on Friday Oct 21st. Maybe Bob did not take the auction down in time, or maybe even not at all. I am sure it was all just a mistake. I do not know either of these guys, how ever I have talked to Steve a little through my forum. I am not sticking up for anyone, just trying to clear up a problem. I know that Steve had this meteorite on Friday, because he posted on my forum to go to his site and look at his new Canyon Diablo with a hole. You can go to the thread if you want to see for yourself. It is like the 5th reply( on the second page). http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1157416963/25#25 Thanks, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com - Original Message From: Dave Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:30:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold! My DO NOT BUY FROM... list just got bigger. Dave - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and Steve Arnold! Hi List, Just thought everyone should be aware of the double dealing these two have been involved in. Last Wednesday evening(Oct 18, 2006) Bob Evans sent a post to the Meteorite List with this heading. [meteorite-list] Ad- Collection meteorites Oriented Iron with hole, Park Fores... I immediately read his post and then looked at the Canyon Diablo with a hole that he had for sale. The Canyon D. looked good and so I hit the Buy it Now. I then paid via Paypal and the transaction was done. After a few minutes I emailed Bob asking him to add delivery confirmation and also to let me know when it was shipped as I wanted to watch for it. I left town on Friday (it was another Glorieta weekend more on that later)still not having heard from Bob. When I returned Sunday night I was shocked to see Steve had sent it in as the Rocks From Space Picture of the Day I then looked at Big Steves Very brand new updated meteorite site and he has the very samebr meteorite that I had bought and paid for. Its on hisbr new to his collection page.br br Of course I emailed both but neither has replied! Ibr just checked my Paypal account and it does look likebr Bob canceled my payment so I don't think I'm out anybr money.br br Just thought everyone should know.br br p.s.br On the bright side some lucky person that actuallybr reads Big Steves ridiculous posts will get to buy it br a week or so at half the price!br br Ruben Garciabr br br br br __br Do You Yahoo!?br Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around br a target=_blank href=http://mail.yahoo.com;http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
Thanks, Darren, Much clearer to me, now. And now I can get some sleep ;) The link you provided http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/10/25/sun.sisters/ is almost a complete answer to my post. *Note that my post was about a half hour before the news break. The odds of such a directly related news topic being released at such timing must beastronomical! I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil separating from water, the iron/nickel separated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). If they were separated and the flecks were formed then, (I see that silica, iron and nickel all melt at close to the same temp: ~1500 C) what mechanism could have brought them back together into a relatively consistent mixture of chondrule/metal flecks? Maybe simply time, gravity, and the start of the rotation of the new solar system swirling the soup? That would be the most obvious, eh? I would appreciate a reference, if anyone has one. Cheers, Pete From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0400 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? Of course the individual atoms in chondrules are much older than the chondrules themselves (but know knows exactly how many stellar generations ago) but as for the actual flecks of metal themselves, I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil seperating from water, the iron/nickel seperated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). Recently there has been news of studies on the decay products of short-lived supernova produced elements that show that there were supernovas very close (both in space and time) to the proto-solar system. (This article was posted 22 minutes ago as I'm finding it) http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/10/25/sun.sisters/ I believe (though I haven't googled up the articles related to it) that recent studies of elements and isotopes in certain meteorites suggest that components from at least 3 seperate supernovas contributed to the materials in the early solar system. If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! In our current position, it takes around 225 million years for one orbit of the center of the galaxy, or about 20 orbits since the birh of the sun. That's plenty of time and distance for a whole lot more than 450 light-years of drift between the sun and the nursery. _ Experience Live Search from your PC or mobile device today. http://www.live.com/?mkt=en-ca __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
Hi Mark, Congratulations on the work you did to have this coin minted! It is a beauty. Most people on the list probably don't know how much you contributed to this coin being minted. Best wishes, Michael on 10/25/06 10:27 AM, MARK BOSTICK at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Shady dealings with Bob Evans and SteveArnold!
As you have no doubt already seen on the list, Ruben had a contract with Bob at the instant he clicked on the Buy It Now option on eBay. Steve called Bob AFTER the transaction had been completed with Ruben and ended up with the meteorite. A slimey undertaking by both Steve and Bob. Bob as the owner of the meteorite should be held primarily responsible for this fiasco as he backed out of his obligation and contract to Ruben. Steve is also responsible as he went along with the trade knowing that the meteorite had been sold on eBay in the first place. Dave, forgive me if i am missing something obvious here, but from what bit of information do you base your statement that Steve called Bob AFTER the but it now transaction occured? granted i havent forllowed 100% of the posts on this thread but i have seen nothing that indicates what time things happened. from what Bob said Steve made a deal for the rock 10 minutes BEFORE the buy it now happened - or at least before he was aware the buy it now happened. there didnt seem to be any foreknowledge on the part of Bob, and certainly not Steve. sincerely confussed... stan _ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-ussource=hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite-Greenhouse Gases Combo Linked to Mass Extinction
http://www.zeenews.com/znnew/articles.asp?aid=331416ssid=26sid=ENV Meteorite-greenhouse gases combo linked to Mass Extinction zeenews.com October 25, 2006 Washington: So what triggered the mass extinction of the dinosaurs some 65 million years ago? Was it a giant meteor impact or a volcanic activity? Neither of the two, according to a latest study by plant fossil expert Nan Arens of Hobart and William Smith Colleges in New York. According to her, it was not a single activity like a meteor impact or a volcanic eruption but something known as the press/pulse theory of mass extinctions that brought about the end of great lizards. According to the press/pulse theory, the worst die-offs happen when some sort of interminable, multi-generational pressure on life is combined with a few powerful blows. She believes some species might already have been vulnerable when the triggering event occurred. To test the idea, she and her undergraduate student Ian West compiled a large database of marine organisms and their extinctions through geological time. They divided the last 488 million years into four groups: Suspected meteor impacts (pulses), gigantic volcanic flood basalt eruptions (presses), periods with neither presses nor pulses, and times when press and pulse coincided, and compared average extinction rates in each of these groups. Flood basalt eruptions are considered presses because they release vast amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere and can change the Earth's climate. The researchers found similar extinction rates when a pulse or press occurred by itself, and when neither effect was occurring. However, when an impact occurred during a time of volcanic flood - that produced higher extinction rates, Discovery News quoted Arens as saying. The goal of our work was to come up with a unifying theory of mass extinctions. We also wanted to make the theory applicable to the rapid extinctions now being seen as a result of accelerating climate change (press) and the ongoing destruction of wild habitats by human activities worldwide (pulse), said West. Gerta Keller of Princeton University said the study had essentially put in a more eloquent way what other palaeontologists had been saying for many years. Namely that the impact-kill hypothesis is all wrong. Impacts alone could not have been the killing mechanism for the K-T or any of the other major mass extinctions. I'm very happy they have done the analysis based on the literature and come up with the same conclusions that palaeontologists have been preaching all along, said Keller. Arens is presenting her work on October 25 at the annual meeting of the Geological Society of America in Philadelphia. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
I think I may have misinterpreted this, Darren: as for the actual flecks of metal themselves, I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil seperating from water, the iron/nickel seperated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). You meant that they were separated at a minute scale - chondrule-and-fleck-size, right? Not on a vast measure, as in kilometers plus. Disregard my remix question. Cheers, Pete From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:55:53 -0400 On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:52:23 -0400, you wrote: If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? Of course the individual atoms in chondrules are much older than the chondrules themselves (but know knows exactly how many stellar generations ago) but as for the actual flecks of metal themselves, I think that they are concentrated by whatever mechanism it is that melts the chondrules-- like oil seperating from water, the iron/nickel seperated from the silicates (and that is more apparent in armored chondrules). Recently there has been news of studies on the decay products of short-lived supernova produced elements that show that there were supernovas very close (both in space and time) to the proto-solar system. (This article was posted 22 minutes ago as I'm finding it) http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/10/25/sun.sisters/ I believe (though I haven't googled up the articles related to it) that recent studies of elements and isotopes in certain meteorites suggest that components from at least 3 seperate supernovas contributed to the materials in the early solar system. If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! In our current position, it takes around 225 million years for one orbit of the center of the galaxy, or about 20 orbits since the birh of the sun. That's plenty of time and distance for a whole lot more than 450 light-years of drift between the sun and the nursery. _ Ready for the world's first international mobile film festival celebrating the creative potential of today's youth? Check out Mobile Jam Fest for your a chance to WIN $10,000! www.mobilejamfest.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re: [meteorite-list] More info : Shady dealings with Bob Evans and SteveArnold!
At 10:56 AM 10/25/2006, stan . wrote: As you have no doubt already seen on the list, Ruben had a contract with Bob at the instant he clicked on the Buy It Now option on eBay. Steve called Bob AFTER the transaction had been completed with Ruben and ended up with the meteorite. A slimey undertaking by both Steve and Bob. Bob as the owner of the meteorite should be held primarily responsible for this fiasco as he backed out of his obligation and contract to Ruben. Steve is also responsible as he went along with the trade knowing that the meteorite had been sold on eBay in the first place. Dave, forgive me if i am missing something obvious here, but from what bit of information do you base your statement that Steve called Bob AFTER the but it now transaction occured? granted i havent forllowed 100% of the posts on this thread but i have seen nothing that indicates what time things happened. from what Bob said Steve made a deal for the rock 10 minutes BEFORE the buy it now happened - or at least before he was aware the buy it now happened. there didnt seem to be any foreknowledge on the part of Bob, and certainly not Steve. sincerely confussed... stan Stan, Here's part of an email from Steve Arnold to Ruben concerning the issue. Both Ruben and I are aware that it is a violation of List rules to post private messages, but after discussing this matter in length, we thought it was an important enough issue that we're willing to suffer Art's consequences if he decides we broke one of his rules. Steve Arnold wrote: Hi ruben.Let me explain what happened.I saw the auction last week and my mouth just drooled.I looked at that piece for along time.I was really deciding on buying it now,but then I thought I would wait till friday.Well it went with the buy it now and it was gone.Well then on friday I called bob to let him know that I really missed out on a good piece because of my non promtness.Well he said if I really want it make me an offer ** You will notice that Steve says he saw the meteorite had been purchased with the Buy it Now feature and later called Bob to let him know that I really missed out on a good piece because of my non promtness [sic] Here's a link to the auction showing that it ended early with Buy it Now with mr-meteorite (Ruben) as the buyer on: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 19:54:50 PDT. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250040481445ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/250040481445_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1 Ruben paid for Ebay item # 250040481445 ( the Canyon Diablo meteorite in question) using his Paypal account on, Wednesday, October 18, 2006 at 19:57 PDT. That's less than 3 minutes after he pushed the Buy it Now button. Steve didn't call Bob Evans until Friday, October 20, 2006. In the email partially quoted above: Steve states: .Well then on friday I called bob to let him know that I really missed out I'm speculating here, but my guess is that Bob would have honored Ruben's Buy it Now purchase if Steve hadn't contacted him and made him a better offer. However, that doesn't mean he's free of any wrong doing here. Bob and Steve didn't make a deal 10 minutes before the Buy it Now button was pushed - the deal was made two days ( maybe a day and a half) later ( unless Steve is lying to Ruben about when he called Bob). Steve initiated the sleazy deal, and Bob followed through. Both are culpable and should be dealt with accordingly. Hope this clears this issue up a bit, John Gwilliam _ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-ussource=hmtagline __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please)
I suppose you are correct. I suspect the iron flecks in chondrites must be stellar relics. The iron is formed in the cores of all stars. Nuclearly speaking it is the stablest of all elements (lowest binding energy per neucleon...or is it the highest, can't remember) So as a consequence it is the final fusion product in the cores of all stars which are heavy enough to get that far (red dwarf stars aren't considered massive enough to get beyond the helium burning phase). However, only supernovae spread their innards out at the end so every atom of iron was created by a supernova as indeed was every atom that isn't hydrogen, helium or lithium. All others are created in stars. However, the atoms higher in the periodic table cannot be made in stars as they require a net input of energy to fuse whereas the lighter ones relase energy. Only in a huge energy surplus can you manufacture these higher elements. This is where the supernova comes in. In that brief period where the star aoutshines an entire galaxy, there is enough excess energy to create quantities of elements up to Uranium (and possibly beyond but non of these are stable). This is a most wonderful process which not only creates all the elements needed for life but also seeds the universe with them. And not a crackpot creationist theory involving venting asteroids into space in sight. As for the ages of the iron/nickel. I'm not sure if ages are measured or if they can be. That'd be interesting if they could. It's probable that our sun and solar system are not even second or third generation. The big stars last only a short period and there's been a long time for the cycle to repeat a few times. Rob McC --- Pete Pete [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, This discussion about chondrules is fascinating! Hoping not to digress off this topic too much, but a question I have is about the metal flecks (not the later-formed iron meteorites) in any of the stonies. Have they ever been given an estimated age? If the heavy elements, such as nickel and iron, are created by a supernova, and the chondrules are in theory formed much later during the future dynamics of our solar system's nebula, would it be fair to say that the metal flecks would be billions and billions (apologies, Carl) of years OLDER than chondrules? And that they came from a distance much further than our solar system's vicinity? Considering that the supernova is exploding outward and the new elements' density is thinning out very quickly, wouldn't it be more likely that these iron and nickel flecks that eventually found a new home in our solar nebula and meteorites have come from more than one, probably a lot more, supernova? If so, why don't we see any remnants of any supernova explosion in our relative proximity? The Helix Nebula is the closest to us, at 450 light-years! http://images.google.ca/images?q=helix+nebulahl=enlr=sa=Xoi=imagesct=title Not even a wisp left... Are tiny, but very dense, nebulas even possible? I can't imagine dust-bunny nebulae. If not, would it be unreasonable to expect that our planetary nebula could have extended out to Centauri, where our closest star neighbours are? When I dwell on the Pillars of Creation photos (Orion stellar-formation nebula, http://hubblesite.org/newscenter/newsdesk/archive/releases/1995/44/image/a) that describes a small point being comparable to the breadth of our solar system, ~4.3 light-years to Centauri isn't that far... Maybe the seldom-discussed/appreciated metal flecks are the real gems in the meteorites? Or, is the nebula in my head too dense that am I just missing something obvious? How is my logic flawed? Cheers, Pete From: Warin Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com CC: E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re : [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism (Info Please) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 16:15:53 + (GMT) Hi, all, I am surprised that nobody evoked the theory following which chondrules were formed in relatively very few privileged zones of space. They would then form through one or more impacts of relatively large asteroids, onto the parent body covered with regoliths (and even with megaregoliths). The excellent book of Derek Sears, entitled The origin of chondrules and chondrites (Cambridge Planetary Science, 2004) supports this hypothesis. In corollary, ordinary chondrites (85% on Earth) would be quite rare in cosmos, and only few parent bodies would produce chondrites. Glad to hear some comments on the above assumptions. Thanks, Roger Warin - Message d'origine De : Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] À : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc : E.P. Grondine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé le : Dimanche, 22 Octobre 2006, 20h38mn 55s Objet : Re: [meteorite-list] Chondrule formation mechanism
[meteorite-list] Ad: $10,000 in meteorites up for sale tonight!
Hi, I have just arrived home from Washington DC, where I got to paw through the Smithsoinian Collection for most of the day yesterday! Incredible, every time I see it, I am in awe for days! Well, I have my largest sale of the year ending onight on ebay! Well over $10,000 i nmeteorites up for grabs, ALL started at one cent! Look at these superb pieces, just a tip of the iceburg. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038094551 This Gao is called The Mushroom, look at it and you will see why. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038100147 This is a perfect Heat Shield Sikhote-Alin, with literally thousands of flow lines! Not many like this to be seen! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040275566 LARGE complete Pallasite slice, with large metal vein and gem olivine crystals. This is a multi-thousand piece.Precision wire-saw cut, not that hacked up garbage that fills ebay right now! You get what you pay for. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038092604 This Gao is 688 grams, COMPLETE STONE. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038424276 Very nice MAIN MASS Dhofar 1154 (LL4). http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040623921 300 gram fragment of the Dashoguz fall! This is a great collection piece. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040325686 Beautiful complete Millbillillie stone. This is just a tiny taste of the 75 meteorites ending tonight! I don't want to dilute it with too many listed here, just some key pieces. See all of the meteorites offered at the links below. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoritehunters http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorite-hunter http://www.meteoritehunter.com thanks Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] (ad) Museum grade: Historical Halloween Fall, Marjalahti, and 2 Awesome Gibeons!!!
Dear list members,Unfortunately, the urgent need for some quick cash has forced me to offer 4 museum grade meteorites at truly bargain prices. Pieces of this quality are rare and seldom offered for sale and if I did not need the money, they would stay in my personal collection indefinitely. If you have been wanting to add a very special piece to your collection, this is a great opportunity. Even if you dont plan on buying, the photos are well worth a look. The complete slice of Marjalahti was even recently featured on the Rocks From Space Picture of the Day. Monroe H5 Brecciated HALLOWEEN METEORITE FALL Oct.31, 1849 Cabarrus County, North Carolina 15:00 hrs local time 44.5 gramsExcerpt from Catalogue of Meteorites: After detonations, a stone of about 19lb (8.6kg) was found near the post office at Flows, 22 miles east of Charlotte and 18 miles from Monroe, J.H. Gibbon (1850); C.U. Shepard (1850). This is an historical specimen originally collected and studied by C.U. Shepard. It is as fresh as the day it fell with very fresh dark black fusion crust. This specimen also comes with a 156 year old Hand Drawn Sketch of the specimen and a collection number. The hand drawn label can be attributed to the eminent American mineralogist, C.U. Shepard (1804-1886). His collection was formerly curated by Amherst College, but was acquired by ASU in 1980. This particular specimen was donated by Shepard to Humboldt University, Germany. Despite the significance of the specimen and the fact that it was donated by a prominent scientific figure, it was traded out of the Universitys possession over 100 years later for some terrestrial mineral samples. I was told that staffing changes led to a situation where the curator of the minerals was also curating the meteorites for a period of time and he had a much higher interest in terrestrial minerals. I was also told that the new curator of the meteorite collection wasa bitupset with some of the material that got traded out. i.e.: the Monroe. (This information was gathered when I purchased the meteorite in 1999 by a very reputable source) Im pretty sure there are several people on the list that will recognize this spectacular piece. (Please note: The collection # fell off the specimen some time ago and is now currently being stored with the label as you will notice in the photos. It could easily be reattached with no problem or simply left the way it is. There is no damage whatsoever to it. The glue just came unstuck and it fell off.) This piece is currently listed at $4,500 but I will sell it to the first person to offer me $4,000. I will also consider any offers over $3,500. Link to photos below Marjalahti Pallasite Very rare witnessed Pallasite Fall Large Complete Slice! Viipuri, Russia June, 1902 22:00 hrs. Local timeExcerpt from Catalogue of Meteorites: After the appearance of a luminous meteor followed by detonations, a stone about 45kg was seen to fall and was broken into pieces. I have for sale a 142 gram complete slice of this absolutely incredible fall. Cut, polished and etched to exacting specifications. Unless I am mistaken, due to the unfortunate fact that this meteorite basically shattered upon impact, there are perhaps only ½ dozen or so complete slices of this meteorite in existence. This is such a piece. This particular specimen was also the subject matter for Rocks From Space Picture of the Day one day back in August. This piece is currently listed for $8,900 but I will sell it to the first person to offer me $7,500. I will also consider any offers over $6,500. Gibeon Iron IVA Large, Oriented, Sculpted, Stunning, and Complete! Namibia, Africa 14.2 kilos (31.25 pounds) This specimen was high graded by a South African collector for many years. Only after his death did it make its way onto the market via his daughter. I am the only other owner except for a brief period of time it spent with the meteorite dealer that discovered and purchased it for me. This specimen is one of incredible shape and beauty. Gibeons of this quality have always been scarce and Im sure that most of you are aware of the dwindling Gibeon supply. Over the last 10 years or so most of the available material has been absorbed into permanent collections. I know that if I hold onto these unique Gibeons for a few more years, they will easily be worth 2 or 3 times what I am asking for these two today. Believe me! The chance of running across any more Gibeons of comparable quality and price are extremely low. The photos will hint at how fantastic the 14.2 kilos one is but there is no way to really tell what it looks like unless you can put it into a 3D image. In order to see its true orientation you need look directly down the tip of the nose. This is where the majority of the mass and bulk of the weight is located. The largest part of the meteorite is actually fairly thin in thickness. It sounds real pretty and rings like a
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I called the telephone # that someone gave which was 970- 879-3621, to to see if they still had strewnfield maps. Bill Peck did not answer the phone. It was someone trying to sell their house. Anyone else have a number for the strewnfield map? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: $10,000 in meteorites ending tonight on ebay!
Hi, I have just arrived home from Washington DC, where I got to paw through the Smithsoinian Collection for most of the day yesterday! Incredible, every time I see it, I am in awe for days! Well, I have my largest sale of the year ending onight on ebay! Well over $10,000 i nmeteorites up for grabs, ALL started at one cent! Look at these superb pieces, just a tip of the iceburg. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038094551 This Gao is called The Mushroom, look at it and you will see why. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038100147 This is a perfect Heat Shield Sikhote-Alin, with literally thousands of flow lines! Not many like this to be seen! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040275566 LARGE complete Pallasite slice, with large metal vein and gem olivine crystals. This is a multi-thousand piece.Precision wire-saw cut, not that hacked up garbage that fills ebay right now! You get what you pay for. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038092604 This Gao is 688 grams, COMPLETE STONE. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130038424276 Very nice MAIN MASS Dhofar 1154 (LL4). http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040623921 300 gram fragment of the Dashoguz fall! This is a great collection piece. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170040325686 Beautiful complete Millbillillie stone. This is just a tiny taste of the 75 meteorites ending tonight! I don't want to dilute it with too many listed here, just some key pieces. See all of the meteorites offered at the links below. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteoritehunters http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmeteorite-hunter http://www.meteoritehunter.com thanks Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
I have to say I really like that Palau Meteorite coin. The farm scene with the meteorite is typical of how many meteorites are found by farmers plowing the field. The obverse is not exactly meteorite related but since its issued by a island nation appropriate I guess. Poseidon sitting between a mermaid or sea nymph and a treasure chest with an outrigger canoe typical of use in many pacific islands. The chest is probably supposed to be filled with jewels but I would like to think that the chest is filled with poseidons pearls (That he hid when a man got engaged to be married and a man had to find to give to his future wife or he wouldent have an happy marriage). Poseidon actually invented pearls for this reason and the only reason why oysters produce pearls today is because they are repaying a debt owed to poseidon. A one ounce coin is more a standard size than two ounces anyway and fits in more coin collectors album holders and probably a better size to make a coin for collectors and (Theoritically at least) cheaper to. I wish that I had some to sell in munich and on ebay (But I dont). It really looks like a particularly nice coin. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com --- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NASA Posts Panorama To Celebrate Rover's 1, 000th Martian Day
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster 818-354-6278 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Erica Hupp/Dwayne Brown 202-358-1237/1726 NASA Headquarters, Washington IMAGE ADVISORY: 2006-133October 25, 2006 NASA Posts Panorama To Celebrate Rover's 1,000th Martian Day NASA's long-lived Mars Exploration Rover Spirit will finish its 1,000th Martian day Thursday, continuing a successful mission originally planned for 90 Martian days. A color 360-degree panorama released today -- produced from the most detailed imaging yet completed by either Spirit or its twin, Opportunity -- shows rugged terrain of the robot's current location amid a range of hills. The vista, dubbed the McMurdo Panorama, comes from Spirit's panoramic camera and is available online at http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/mer/images/20061025.html . Spirit has been examining the surroundings for several months while perched with a tilt to the north for maximum solar energy during winter in Mars' southern hemisphere. The rover team at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., plans to resume driving the rover in coming weeks as Martian spring approaches. Spirit landed inside Mars' Gusev Crater on Jan. 3, 2004, PST (Jan. 4 Universal Time). Each Martian day is longer than an Earth day, lasting 24 hours, 39 minutes, 35 seconds. That means that in Earth days, Spirit has been on Mars about 1,026 days. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages NASA's Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Nantan Meteorite Coin Images
I have to say I really like that Palau Meteorite coin. The farm scene with the meteorite is typical of how many meteorites are found by farmers plowing the field. The obverse is not exactly meteorite related but since its issued by a island nation appropriate I guess. Poseidon sitting between a mermaid or sea nymph and a treasure chest with an outrigger canoe typical of use in many pacific islands. The chest is probably supposed to be filled with jewels but I would like to think that the chest is filled with poseidons pearls (That he hid when a man got engaged to be married and a man had to find to give to his future wife or he wouldent have an happy marriage). Poseidon actually invented pearls for this reason and the only reason why oysters produce pearls today is because they are repaying a debt owed to poseidon. A one ounce coin is more a standard size than two ounces anyway and fits in more coin collectors album holders and probably a better size to make a coin for collectors and (Theoritically at least) cheaper to. I wish that I had some to sell in munich and on ebay (But I dont). It really looks like a particularly nice coin. Cheers DEAN http://www.meteoriteshop.com --- MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everyone, I have uploaded a couple photographs of the Nantan meteorite coin onto my website. I have saved most of the communications from me and the bank so at some point I will give a little background information on the coin. The coin in only 1 oz. silver, rather then 2 oz. silver, like the NWA 267 coin, and I imagine, a reflection of the increase in metal price the last year. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/Natancoin.html We have mentioned doing a possible 3rd coin. The first was a stone meteorite, the second was an iron meteorite, and the 3rd coin...you'll have to wait and see. (Tentive things are like that.) After a couple months on how the sale of the 2nd coin goes (first sold out almost instantly and was allocated, meaning not everyone got as many as they wanted), I will contact them again and see where we are. More later. At this time I will not be offering the coin for sale but can point you to the bank that sells them if you are interesting in large numbers. Registered shipping from their country is fairly exspensive (~$30), so if interested, you will likely do better on a single coin buying it on the secondary market. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc http://stores.ebay.com/MeteoriteArticles __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map
Try google searching up University of Wyoming geologic survey, or the Geology library there. Some one can get the phone number as the library is next door to the geologic survey. Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I called the telephone # that someone gave which was 970- 879-3621, to to see if they still had strewnfield maps . Bill Peck did not answer the phone. It was someone trying to sell their house. Anyone else have a number for the strewnfield map? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Museum grade: Historical Halloween Fall, Marjalahti, and 2 Awesome Gibeons!!!
Dear list members, "Sorry if you get this as a double post, I sent it in an incorrect format earlier." Unfortunately, the urgent need for some quick cash has forced me to offer 4 museum grade meteorites at truly bargain prices. Even if you dont plan on buying, the photos are well worth a look. The complete slice of Marjalahti was even recently featured on the Rocks From Space Picture of the Day. MONROE H5 Brecciated HALLOWEEN METEORITE FALL Oct.31, 1849 Cabarrus County, North Carolina 15:00 hrs local time 44.5 grams Excerpt from Catalogue of Meteorites: After detonations, a stone of about 19lb (8.6kg) was found near the post office at Flows, 22 miles east of Charlotte and 18 miles from Monroe, J.H. Gibbon (1850); C.U. Shepard (1850). This is an historical specimen originally collected and studied by C.U. Shepard. It is as fresh as the day it fell with very fresh dark black fusion crust. This specimen also comes with a 156 year old Hand Drawn Sketch of the specimen and a collection number. The hand drawn label can be attributed to the eminent American mineralogist, C.U. Shepard (1804-1886). His collection was formerly curated by Amherst College, but was acquired by ASU in 1980. This particular specimen was donated by Shepard to Humboldt University, Germany. Despite the significance of the specimen and the fact that it was donated by a prominent scientific figure, it was traded out of the Universitys possession over 100 years later for some terrestrial mineral samples. I was told that staffing changes led to a situation where the curator of the minerals was also curating the meteorites for a period of time and he had a much higher interest in terrestrial minerals. I was also told that the new curator of the meteorite collection was a bit upset with some of the material that got traded out. i.e.: the Monroe. (This information was gathered when I purchased the meteorite in 1999 by a very reputable source) Im pretty sure there are several people on the list that will recognize this spectacular piece. (Please note: The collection # fell off the specimen some time ago and is now currently being stored with the label as you will notice in the photos. It could easily be reattached with no problem or simply left the way it is. There is no damage whatsoever to it. The glue just came unstuck and it fell off.) This piece is currently listed at $4,500 but I will sell it to the first person to offer me $4,000. I will also consider any offers over $3,500. Link to photos belowMARJALAHTI Pallasite Very rare witnessed Pallasite Fall Large Complete Slice! Viipuri, Russia June, 1902 22:00 hrs. Local time Excerpt from Catalogue of Meteorites: After the appearance of a luminous meteor followed by detonations, a stone about 45kg was seen to fall and was broken into pieces. I have for sale a 142 gram complete slice of this absolutely incredible fall. Cut, polished and etched to exacting specifications. Unless I am mistaken, due to the unfortunate fact that this meteorite basically shattered upon impact, there are perhaps only ½ dozen or so complete slices of this meteorite in existence. This is such a piece. This particular specimen was also the subject matter for Rocks From Space Picture of the Day one day back in August. This piece is currently listed for $8,900 but I will sell it to the first person to offer me $7,500. I will also consider any offers over $6,500.GIBEON Iron IVA Large, Oriented, Sculpted, Stunning, and Complete! Namibia, Africa 14.2 kilos (31.25 pounds) This specimen was high graded by a South African collector for many years. Only after his death did it make its way onto the market via his daughter. I am the only other owner except for a brief period of time it spent with the meteorite dealer that discovered and purchased it for me. This specimen is one of incredible shape and beauty. Gibeons of this quality have always been scarce and Im sure that most of you are aware of the dwindling Gibeon supply. Over the last 10 years or so most of the available material has been absorbed into permanent collections. I know that if I hold onto these unique Gibeons for a few more years, they will easily be worth 2 or 3 times what I am asking for these two today. Believe me! The chance of running across any more Gibeons of comparable quality and price are extremely low. The photos will hint at how fantastic the 14.2 kilos one is but there is no way to really tell what it looks like unless you can put it into a 3D image. In order to see its true orientation you need look directly down the tip of the nose. This is where the majority of the mass and bulk of the weight is located. The largest part of the meteorite is actually fairly thin in thickness. It sounds real pretty and rings like a bell when you ding on it. This is a must see even if you could care less about owning it. This meteorite displays well in several different positions. First person to offer me $8,500 gets this gorgeous piece. That
[meteorite-list] Canyon Diblo with hole. You Gotta read this!!!
Hello ruben;I admire your stature and kindness for forgiving steve and bob.You are one among many.Shows everyone you have more to do with your life than hold grudges and such.I think. Hope you don't mind me posting this.I was inspired by your kindness. Best Wishes;Herman Archer. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I seen 2 Fireballs land in just under 24hours WOW
Dear Joe, Sounds like fun. The Orionids have had a wonderful peak this year and probably account for the visual displays you and the rest of the world are seeing, though the trjectory you give wasn't easy for me to follow. As to "landing" just over yonder, well Just wanted to encourage you to be the first one to go get a piece of Halley's comet, the source of the presentmeteor shower which is on the wane after a pretty spectacular performance this year laced with fireballs, some getting as bright as a quarter Moon or so. Best wishes, Doug - Original Message - From: Joe To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:36 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] I seen 2 Fireballs land in just under 24hours WOW Hello List, I just seen my second Fireball in about 24 hours. I don't know what I did to deserve this? I have only seen one land close to me. Here are my descriptions of them. And of the other one that I seen this year (three of em total). I have also described two that landed within 30 miles of me that were witnessed by other people, All this year. First off, lastnight on my way home from work I saw a fireball land near Ottawa, IL. I seen it at 12:17am on Tuesday Oct 24th 2006. It had a reddish/orange tail and the object/meteorite appeared to be purple, it was that close where I could see it in detail. It was actually traveling pretty slow, I do not know if it broke up before I saw it. When I first seen it I was driving North and out of my drivers side window I saw for about 3-4 seconds, it seemed longer. It started sither above me or East of me, that why I said I don't know if it broke apart, I did not see it the whole time. I would say it landed between 2-5 miles away, I am sure it landed just south of N33th RD, not more than 100yds and between E15th and E10th Rd. Now, for the second one. I seen it on Tuesday Oct 24th at 11:48pm (almost 24hrs after the previous one) Tonite on the way home from work I saw ANOTHER one, this one was about 20 miles West from the other one. I was turning the corner out in the country when I seen it, it had a low trajectory and it burnt out and broke up close to the ground. The trail on this one was light orange, I did not the the meteor this time, it was traveling much faster than the previous one. It landed just South and West of Mendota, IL. It lasted( I saw it) for about 2 seconds. Man I can not believe that I saw another fireball, this is the secon one that I seen land near Mendota in a year (the other was in June 2006). If I am able to find just one of these that would be AWSOME!!! This would be the third one (fireball that landed as a meteorite) that I saw this year, WOW very unbelivable. What is even more unbelievable, is that I know of 5 total that fell within 30 miles of Mendota, IL this year. Maybe this is the new Meteorite Fall Capitol of the world. If people do not believe that I saw these, I will hopefully prove it when I find one of them, everyone will be able to tell by the freshness, I hope. Out of the three that I saw, two of them were very close to Mendota, IL. The others were near Ladd, IL and Ottawa, IL. I sure hope that I am able to find at least one of these, I have a vague idea where at least four of them are, the fifth one I am not so sure of. The ones that I saw landed close, I know this for sure. I have seen many many meteors/ falling stars and fireballs over the years and even this year( far away and close). I know for a fact that these ones landed somewhat close, I am sure of it. I am taking the other guys on thier word. The guy (Sergio Garcia)said that he and his daughter saw it come in and "explode" over a beanfield near Mendota. We have been searching that field, with no luck so far, but we have may have found a possible iron meteorite in the same field. This was in Early spring, no date. The one that landed near Ladd, IL was seen by at least five people that I know of. One of the guys called me right after they saw it, he was very excited at the time. I could also hear the people in the background talking to each other about it. He said they heard it "whistle and roar". He said it last almost a minute and that he thinks it landed at least 10 miles away, between Princeton and Ladd. This was seen on May 22 at 9:35pm.Thanks,Joe Kerchnerhttp://illinoismeteorites.com __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rob's Comet's Exciting Explosion Part II
Hello Listees, Rob's green Comet has exploded. This is fascinating and this is big news for Comet people. OK, I should say it had an unexpected outburst and just got 5-10 times brighter while it was just on its way out and ready to wane quickly. I'm sure if we were on the comet that would be a mean explosion. It now kicks the butt of SW3 in brightness. As the Moon is getting stronger, Wednesday night (tonight, and maybe one more night) is basically the last chance unless something else fantastic happens like just did to this comet 10 hours ago or so. Congratulations, Rob, your Comet just turned into one of the top 5 of the last decade! The outburst is nice! Here's a comparison with a normal consumer digital camera nights of , widest angle setting (35mm equivalent zoom setting of a 35-200). Lat. @ 30º24' 20:50PM EDT (same time, 120 min after Sunset, and place both days). Transparency was a little worse the second night, but a great Milky Way sky both times.www.diogenite.com/061024-25.jpgThe top is the evening of 2006 Oct 24.06 which is:C/2006 M4 (SWAN) 2006 Oct. 24.04 UT: m1=5.9, Dia.= 8', DC=7 above average transparency vis. LM = 6.0The bottom is the evening of 2006 Oct 24.06 which is:C/2006 M4 (SWAN) 2006 Oct. 25.04 UT: m1=4.4, Dia.= 8', DC=8 average transparency vis. LM = 5.6If you want to see the magnitudes of the comparison stars in the side-by-side photo above, they here is a star chart showing the positions of the comet both nights and magnitudes of the stars.:www.diogenite.com/mag.jpgThe "C" shaped constellation is Corona Borealis, just under Hercules and headed the Strongman's way. You can see how much the comet moved in two night and guess very accurately based on that where it will be tonight. It is not hard to find with binoculars. The comet is WNW. The camera and photos were the same, however it was somewhat colder the first night and better transparency, so the raw photos presented would have to be adjusted - better to just compare to their respective comparison stars.Outburst +1.5 magnitude brightening!! First comet I have seen naked eye since Kohoutek, thanks to the dark sky location. Still, C/2004 Q2 Machholz was more impressive in the binoculars, though. This comet looked like a bright galaxy through the 10x50 consumer binoculars and during the most steady view through them, a short tail could be seen - but only underoptimal conditions. The size of the comet reported was estimated in a 89mm Mak-Cassegrain telescope.Best wishes, Doug- Original Message -Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:03 PMSubject: Re: 2006 M4 (SWAN) dramatic brightening Easily visible in Nautical twilight? I just saw M4 last time from a dark sky, and it was similar to M13 in magnitude. Is something changing - this bright magnitude sounds too good to be true? Can someone else kindly confirm as it would be worth a 100 miles trip now? I'll upload a photo of Corona Borealis and the comet from a section of wide angle 35mm equivalent of the normal 135 film camera. It isn't good, but the comet is perceptible and green 2006 Oct 24.04 UT. (Taken last night EDT about 8:52 PM, 15 seconds exposure) www.diogenite.com/061024-06UT.JPG (should have been saved as 061024-04, not -06) Latitude 30º24' Vis. LM 6. The lower two stars of the "C" of Corona Borealis point to the comet which is dim but the greenest speck on the image, half way from the most counterclockwise star of CrB to the upper right corner of the image. I'm not comparing this to the nice photos recently posted on the internet, but posting it to to compare the magnitude...photographically at least... less than 20 hours ago Thanks kindly, Doug __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet Outburst from C/2006 M4 (SWAN)
Space Weather News for Oct. 25, 2006 http://spaceweather.com COMET OUTBURST: Astronomers report that Comet Swan has suddenly increased in brightness 4-fold, from magnitude +6 to +4.5. This makes it a naked-eye object in dark skies and a lovely sight through backyard telescopes. The cause of the outburst: A new vein of volatile ice may have opened up in the comet's nucleus. Solar heating transforms this freshly-exposed material into streams of bright, reflective gas and dust. Indeed, backyard telescopes seem to show new tendrils of gaseous material in the comet's long tail. Visit http://spaceweather.com for sky maps, images and more information. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map
Hi, The map is shown for sale on the website of the Astronomical League: http://www.astronomicalleague.com/MeteorMap.htm However, the usual on-line shopping cart isn't working at the moment (down for renovations). Here's what they say: Currently, League Sales is able to process your order if paid by check. You may contact Randy Thompson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to inquire about available League Sales items, pricing, and shipping rates. (Please note this is a temporary E-mail address and subject to change.) Your payment will need to be received prior to your order being shipped. League Sales mailing address: Astronomical League Sales 9201 Ward Parkway, Suite 100 Kansas City, MO 64114 Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map I called the telephone # that someone gave which was 970- 879-3621, to to see if they still had strewnfield maps . Bill Peck did not answer the phone. It was someone trying to sell their house. Anyone else have a number for the strewnfield map? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map NUMBER TWO
Hi, Bill Peck's address as of 2001: Guide to North American Meteorites B. D. Peck Philmont Route #1, Box 35 Cimarron, NM 87714 USA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map Hi, The map is shown for sale on the website of the Astronomical League: http://www.astronomicalleague.com/MeteorMap.htm However, the usual on-line shopping cart isn't working at the moment (down for renovations). Here's what they say: Currently, League Sales is able to process your order if paid by check. You may contact Randy Thompson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] to inquire about available League Sales items, pricing, and shipping rates. (Please note this is a temporary E-mail address and subject to change.) Your payment will need to be received prior to your order being shipped. League Sales mailing address: Astronomical League Sales 9201 Ward Parkway, Suite 100 Kansas City, MO 64114 Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] strewnfield map I called the telephone # that someone gave which was 970- 879-3621, to to see if they still had strewnfield maps . Bill Peck did not answer the phone. It was someone trying to sell their house. Anyone else have a number for the strewnfield map? Jim Balister __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay auctions cancelled
just noticed the following auctions were cancelled by Ebay Item number: 230042282765 Title: meteorite NWA 1930 LL3 Item number: 230042282920 Title: meteorite NWA 1930 LL3 Item number: 230042283004 Title: NWA 2140 CV3 meteorite with CM2 type inclusion Anybody any idea who the seller was.? Any relation to recent events discussed extensively on the list recently? Suzanne Jim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - October 26, 2006
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[meteorite-list] barwell on ebay
the big barwell hit the saw to nite and went straigh to ebay. i have a barwell micro on ebay. it is ONE CHONDRULE. excellent pix. check it out. http://cgi.ebay.com/Barwell-England-meteorite-MICRO-Chondrule_W0QQitemZ300042339059QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] BARWELL HIT the SAW- on ebay
here's the biggest piece after i cut up the 41 barwell: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=020sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=300042366163rd=1rd=1as usual- trades accepted for GA +FL skyrox of same value. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stay in touch with old friends and meet new ones with Windows Live Spaces __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] steve arnold and park forest
how many park forest meteorites did steve arnold in chicago find? he lives kinda close , so i figured he's have sackfull. just looking to buy a pf about 20g. i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get today's hot entertainment gossip __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
