[meteorite-list] mistake on ebay

2006-11-08 Thread Fred Caillou Noir
Dear All,

Please consider this post as an information and not as an AD.
I simply wish to inform you all that I made a wrong copy  paste when 
preparing one of our pending auctions that displays a false subtitle. You will 
find this mistake on a ZAG endcut, supposed to have 2 slickensides according to 
this subtitle.

Please note that THERE IS NO SLICKENSIDE on this sample.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-ZAG-H3-6-11-1g-endcut-2-lithologies_W0QQitemZ130044293885QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This is just to make it clear before some of you bid on this meteorite without 
seing the additional information at the end of the announcement.
Thanks for your understanding and have a nice day.
Best wishes,

Frederic
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 8, 2006

2006-11-08 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/November_8.html  

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Re: [meteorite-list] mistake on ebay

2006-11-08 Thread almitt

Hi  Frederic,

I've made a number of mistakes also with the cut and paste features. 
It's easy to do but mainly want to tell people that
working with you and your representative was a very positive thing and 
that your a good source to deal with!


You can go into the auctions and change descriptions if you want. Feel 
free to contact me for help as I have become somewhat of an expert at it :-)


--AL Mitterling

Fred Caillou Noir wrote:

Dear All,

Please consider this post as an information and not as an AD.
I simply wish to inform you all that I made a wrong copy  paste when 
preparing one of our pending auctions that displays a false subtitle. You will find this 
mistake on a ZAG endcut, supposed to have 2 slickensides according to this subtitle.

Please note that THERE IS NO SLICKENSIDE on this sample.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Meteorite-ZAG-H3-6-11-1g-endcut-2-lithologies_W0QQitemZ130044293885QQihZ003QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This is just to make it clear before some of you bid on this meteorite without 
seing the additional information at the end of the announcement.
Thanks for your understanding and have a nice day.
Best wishes,

Frederic
 


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RE: [meteorite-list] Ghubara...

2006-11-08 Thread mark ford

Yes I agree there!, Ghubara is probably the perfect meteorite, a good
combination of 'cheap and clean'.  One of my slices has been perfectly
'flat mirror polished' and even looks just like the black obelisk in the
film '2001 a space odessey!! (frankly it scares me every time I look at
it :) 


Mark



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Hullo,
FWIW... I live right on the coast, and god only knows we all know how
crappy
the weather is here in the UK my Gub slice has kept perfectly!
I still rate this meteorite as one of the most underestimated space
rocks -
lovely stuff and cheap too - sort of like a 'pre-NWA 869' rock - cheap,
plentiful and beautiful!

Ciao!


dave
IMCA #0092
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www.bimsociety.org
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[meteorite-list] Ground Team Stays Busy on 10th Anniversary of Mars Global Surveyor Launch

2006-11-08 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/features.cfm?feature=1226

Ground Team Stays Busy on 10th Anniversary of NASA Mars Launch
Media contact: Guy Webster (818) 354-6278/JPL
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
November 07, 2006

Engineers are striving to restore full communications with NASA's Mars
Global Surveyor on the 10th anniversary of the spacecraft's Nov. 7,
1996, launch.

The orbiter is the oldest of five NASA spacecraft currently active at
the red planet. Its original mission was to examine Mars for a full
Martian year, roughly two Earth years. Once that period elapsed,
considering the string of discoveries, NASA extended the mission
repeatedly, most recently on Oct. 1 of this year.

The orbiter has operated longer than any other spacecraft ever sent to
Mars. It has returned more information about Mars than all earlier
missions combined and has succeeded far enough beyond its original
mission to see two later NASA orbiters arrive: Mars Odyssey and Mars
Reconnaissance Orbiter. Among many important accomplishments so far,
Mars Global Surveyor has found many young gullies apparently cut by
flowing water, discovered water-related mineral deposits that became a
destination for NASA's Opportunity rover, mapped the planet
topographically and examined many potential landing sites on Mars.

On Nov. 2, one orbit after commands were sent for a routine maneuver to
move the solar panels, the spacecraft reported that the motor moving one
of the arrays had experienced errors. Onboard software responded as
programmed, switching the spacecraft to a backup motor controller, then
to a backup circuitry connection.

Following these indications of difficulty, a two-day lapse in contact
occurred on Nov. 3 and 4. The signal from the spacecraft was received on
Nov. 5 during four different orbits, but it did not carry any data from
the spacecraft. The signal's frequency indicated that the spacecraft had
entered safe mode, a pre-programmed state of restricted activity in
which it awaits instructions from Earth.

No further signal was heard during subsequent orbits on Nov. 5 and Nov.
6. Engineers concluded that the spacecraft had made an additional
pre-programmed response, intended to help it survive when it senses that
a solar array is stuck. The spacecraft turns that array toward the sun
to maintain its power supply and rotates the rest of the spacecraft in
the same direction, thereby making communication with Earth less effective.

The spacecraft has many redundant systems that should help us get it
back into a stable operation, but first we need to re-establish
communications, said Tom Thorpe, project manager for Mars Global
Surveyor at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.

Further information on the recovery of the spacecraft will be released
as it comes available.

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[meteorite-list] New Lunar - NWA 4472 - Auctions Ending - AD

2006-11-08 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear List Members and Lunar Enthusiasts,

Here is the original post I emailed last week of eBay auctions which are 
ending now of NWA 4472, new lunar -


I am very happy to announce a NEW and not paired lunar meteorite. It is NWA
4472 and is classified as a lunar Mare Basalt-Granitic Breccia. It has the
very rare minerals tranquillityite and zircon, along with rare granitic
clasts known in some Apollo mare breccias. Tranquillityite was first
identified in the interstitial, last crystallizing regions (mesostasis) of
Apollo 11 mare basalts. The Total Known Weight of NWA 4472 was just 64.3
grams in a single complete stone. After the type sample was submitted,
cutting/polishing losses and leaving a sizable 35.3 gram main mass, there is
not much available to collectors. I have just put all that is available on 
eBay, which is only 10 specimens, most with Buy it Now at a very reasonable
rate considering the rare minerals, features and the low TKW, along with no 
other pairings. Be sure to read about its acquisition in the November 2006

issue of Meteorite Magazine!

Here is a photo of the 35.3 gram Main Mass of 4472:
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa4472/nwa4472mainmass1.jpg

Here are the direct links to the only available NWA 4472 specimens:
5.212 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045853515rd=1rd=1
2.770 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045856378rd=1rd=1
2.428 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045857051rd=1rd=1
1.504 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045868069rd=1rd=1
1.158 gram Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045869085rd=1rd=1
156mg Part Slice
http://www.lunarrock.com/11-1/dsc6.jpg SOLD on eBay while loading the 
auctions!

72mg Part Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045870090rd=1rd=1
12mg Part Slice (started at just 99 cents)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045870519rd=1rd=1
12mg Part Slice (started at just 99 cents)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045871273rd=1rd=1
18mg of Fragments (started at just 99 cents)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=008sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITviewitem=item=180045871895rd=1rd=1

I have many other excellent auctions ending today, many still at just 99 
cents so great deals will be had. Be sure to check all that is available by 
eBay seller, NaturesVault. If anyone missed one of my new lunar Mare 
Basalt-Granitic Breccias on eBay, please feel free to email me off llst to 
discuss any of the unsold specimens. I plan to re-list then later today so 
if you are interested, please do not hesitate.


Best regards,
Greg


Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
NaturesVault (eBay)
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[meteorite-list] Holbrook strewnfield expedition

2006-11-08 Thread justin weippert
Hello to all list members! I have been on this list for sometime but not have comunicated with all of you. I've been hunting Holbrook meteorites for sometime now and I was wondering if anyone would like to join me in a hunt for thesehard to find meteorites.I have other friends that got me into meteorites like James kreigh. He was my teacher for meteorites. A very smart person. So if anyone is interested please let me know.! or comunicate with me! thanks! Justin from Showlow, AZ   


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re: [meteorite-list] Monacensia - Munich 2006

2006-11-08 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
a 10 kg. Gibeon I have buy from Haiderer in this days.

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Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Monacensia - Munich 2006
Data : Tue, 7 Nov 2006 03:21:11 +0100


 A last larger Gibeon, dish-shaped and the only
remarkable
 large and regmaglypted Sikhote, leaping to my eye on
the
 show, were exhibited on the much-loved cosmic chaos
tables
 of Erich Haiderer.  Erich's booth is always a
mixture
 between a flea-market table and a candy shop. The
 collector has to work to find the astonishing and
rare
 types and specimens between the more common stuff,
he has
 to dig and to grub, but then, if his treasure hunt
was
 successful, he always will be rewarded for his work,
with
 an excellently fair price.


M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/

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Re: [meteorite-list] simulant moon dust wanted by NASA ADD delete

2006-11-08 Thread Dave Freeman mjwy




Dear NASA (if your out there);
I have a few hundred pounds of quality gray to white weathered
anorthosite for sale. Make offer.
Dave F.

Darren Garrison wrote:

  On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:02:38 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

  
  
Dear List,
 I don`t how much the government is wasting on
stimulant(sic) dust but they are searching for more. 
Here is their link:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/moon_dirt_050124.html


  
  


I see your "wanted-- fake moon dirt" and raise you an "unwanted-- real moon
dirt"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15607792/

Lunar explorers face moon dust dilemma
Scientists are grappling with how to handle dust for next moon shot
By Leonard David
Space.com
Updated: 3:12 p.m. ET Nov 7, 2006

GOLDEN, Colo.  The Moon is dusty, grimy, and potentially hazardous to your
health.

Ultra-tiny dust grains can gum up the works of vital hardware on the Moon. And
there's also a possible risk to health from gulping in the lunar dusta
toxicological twist to "bad Moon rising."

Thanks to the Apollo program there's firsthand knowledge about the Moon being a
Disneyland of dust.

Moonwalkers were covered from helmet to boot with lunar dust. Also tagged as the
"dirty dozen," astronauts on the various Apollo missions worked long hours in
the lunar environment, setting up science equipment and collectively bagged 840
pounds (382 kilograms) of rock and other surface material for shipment back to
Earth.

As NASA planners gear up to replant astronauts on the lunar surface before 2020,
scientists and engineers are grappling with how best to certify a safe and
productive stay for 21st-century moonwalkers.

Mining specialists, researchers, entrepreneurs, and NASA managers took part in
the eighth Space Resources Roundtable, held here Oct. 31-Nov. 2 at the Colorado
School of Mines and in collaboration with the Lunar and Planetary Institute in
Houston, Texas.

"First and foremost is just the fact that the dust just sticks to everything,"
said Jasper Halekas, a research physicist at University of California, Berkeley
Space Sciences Laboratory in Berkeley, California.

From gauge dials, helmet sun shades to spacesuits and tools, the
"stick-to-itness" of dust during the Apollo missions proved to be a noteworthy
problem, Halekas reported. Most amusingly, he added, even the vacuum cleaner
that was designed to clean off the dust clogged down and jammed.

Halekas recounted a technical debrief by Apollo 17's Gene Cernan after his 1972
Moon voyage.

Cernan said that "one of the most aggravating, restricting facets of lunar
surface exploration is the dust and its adherence to everything no matter what
kind ... and its restrictive friction-like action to everything it gets on." The
astronaut added: "You have to live with it but you're continually fighting the
dust problem both outside and inside the spacecraft."

Electrically active
Although the lunar environment is often considered to be essentially static,
Halekas and his fellow researchers reported at the workshop that, in fact, it is
very electrically active.

The surface of the Moon charges in response to currents incident on its surface,
and is exposed to a variety of different charging environments during its orbit
around the Earth. Those charging currents span several orders of magnitude, he
said.

Dust adhesion is likely increased by the angular barbed shapes of lunar dust,
found to quickly and effectively coat all surfaces it comes into contact with.
Additionally, that clinging is possibly due to electrostatic charging, Halekas
explained. 

"I think it would behoove us to understand the lunar dust plasma environment as
well as possible before we try to come up with detailed dust mitigation
strategies," Halekas told SPACE.com. "This would mean characterizing the dust,
electric fields and plasma around the Moon and understanding how they interact."

Halekas said that he advocates science experiments either in lunar orbit or on
the Moon's surface  preferably both  in order to gauge the problem.

"At this point, we know so little about the near-surface electrodynamic
environment and its effect on dust that we can't do much more than conjecture
and try to predict the most likely scenario," Halekas said.

Just knowing that the dust is there, Halekas added, tells us that we need to
deal with it. "But without more detailed knowledge than we currently have, I
think we're handicapped in coming up with effective mitigation strategies."

Astronaut health
It is imperative that today's return-to-the-Moon planners recall experiences
from the Apollo era, said Larry Taylor, Director of the Planetary Geosciences
Institute at the Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences at the University of
Tennessee in Knoxville. One problem that was not well anticipated was the
ubiquitous, adherent, abrasive, and floating dust problem, he advised.

Taylor emphasized that the most critical effect of lunar dust, however, may be
on astronaut health.

With each Apollo mission to the Moon, 

[meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread tracy latimer

http://www.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/uhnews?20061106154828

Webcast for anyone who doesn't have a solar filter for their 12 scope... 
enjoy!


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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Wanted: Etched Willamette Slice

2006-11-08 Thread Pat Brown
Hi All, 

There is some real metallic Willamette floating around
in the market. I once owned a 60gram fragment. Traded
it to ET years ago for a nice 1/4 pound Allende with a
roll-over lip. 

Pat 
--- Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's what I thought.
 Jerry Flaherty
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Wanted: Etched
 Willamette Slice
 
 
 I know a guy that knows a guy that works the
 graveyard
  shift at a planetarium...  How much were you
 looking
  to pay?
  
  BTW what kind of hacksaw blade works best on iron?
  
  Elton
  
  --- Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I am looking for an etched part slice of the
  Willamette meteorite. Something
  in the 1 to 5 gram range. No shale please. Thanks
  for looking!
  
  Kind regards,
   
  Mike Bandli
   
  
  
  
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RE: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread Matson, Robert
Unfortunately, none of the Mercury transit pages I've searched so
far today have shown a live image of the solar disk -- very
disappointing.  --Rob

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latimer
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Subject: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit


http://www.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/uhnews?20061106154828

Webcast for anyone who doesn't have a solar filter for their 12
scope... 
enjoy!

Tracy Latimer
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[meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread bernd . pauli
A disappointed Rob writes:

Unfortunately, none of the Mercury transit pages I've searched so far
today have shown a live image of the solar disk -- very disappointing.

As most of you astronomy-minded folks will know, this transit isn't visible
here in Western Europe :-( but Rob's words show how lucky (and happy) I was
on Jun 08, 2004, when I hurried home from school as fast as I could and as
fast as the traffic on my way home permitted to quickly set up my 8 Celestron
scope without properly aligning it (no time left to do so) during the last few
minutes of the Venus transit and to take a few quick pictures of Venus' egress.

The last Venus transit had occurred on Dec. 06, 1882, more than 120 years
before and the next time Venus will walk across the sun's disk won't be
until June, 2012!

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi,

   I suspect overwhelmed servers. I got several
Server Not Available messages. But the rest of
the sites I tried just rolled over and died.
   I guess it's nice that more people than one might
have thought wanted to watch a live celestial event.
I hope the servers didn't just fail and somebody got 
to see it.


Sterling K. Webb
---
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From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:08 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit


Unfortunately, none of the Mercury transit pages I've searched so
far today have shown a live image of the solar disk -- very
disappointing.  --Rob

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tracy
latimer
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:59 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit


http://www.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/uhnews?20061106154828

Webcast for anyone who doesn't have a solar filter for their 12
scope... 
enjoy!


Tracy Latimer
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[meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Sterling,

Fortunately, we've got an 8 S-C out with a solar filter
here at work, so I've been able to follow the progress of
the transit just fine outdoors.  I was just hoping to see
the greater detail afforded by a big scope... --Rob

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit


Hi,

I suspect overwhelmed servers. I got several
Server Not Available messages. But the rest of
the sites I tried just rolled over and died.
I guess it's nice that more people than one might
have thought wanted to watch a live celestial event.
I hope the servers didn't just fail and somebody got 
to see it.

Sterling K. Webb
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[meteorite-list] Re: AD - Wanted: Etched Willamette Slice

2006-11-08 Thread Mike Bandli
There is at least 400+ grams of metallic/non-shale material in possession of
collectors. Most came from material sold from Darryl at the Macovich
Collection and some traded from old museum collections.

Kind regards,
 
Mike Bandli


 That's what I thought.

 Jerry Flaherty

 - Original Message -

 From: Mr EMan mstreman53 at yahoo.com

 To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com

 Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 5:33 PM

 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Wanted: Etched

 Willamette Slice





 I know a guy that knows a guy that works the

 graveyard

  shift at a planetarium... How much were you

 looking

  to pay?

 

  BTW what kind of hacksaw blade works best on iron?

 

  Elton

 

  --- Mike Bandli fuzzfoot at comcast.net wrote:

 

  I am looking for an etched part slice of the

  Willamette meteorite. Something

  in the 1 to 5 gram range. No shale please. Thanks

  for looking!

 

  Kind regards,

 

  Mike Bandli



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[meteorite-list] Munich Show 2006 - Photos

2006-11-08 Thread Gibeon
Hallo friends

I have some photos from the Munich Show last weekend available on my homepage.

Take a look and enjoy the photos.

Here is the link to click on it, or to copy into your browser.

http://www.strufe.net/mu2006a.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006b.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006c.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006d.htm


Best regards 

Hanno Strufe 
Langenbergstrasse 32
66954 Pirmasens 
Germany
Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105
www.strufe.net
IMCA #4267

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread Walter Branch
I had a 6 inch f8 planet killer reflector with solar filter set up but 
once again, the Great Cloudy Nebula snatches defeat from the jaws of 
victory.


I actually did see about 2 seconds worth.  Oh well, there's always 2016.

-Walter Branch

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 4:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit


Hi Sterling,

Fortunately, we've got an 8 S-C out with a solar filter
here at work, so I've been able to follow the progress of
the transit just fine outdoors.  I was just hoping to see
the greater detail afforded by a big scope... --Rob

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Hi,

   I suspect overwhelmed servers. I got several
Server Not Available messages. But the rest of
the sites I tried just rolled over and died.
   I guess it's nice that more people than one might
have thought wanted to watch a live celestial event.
I hope the servers didn't just fail and somebody got
to see it.

Sterling K. Webb
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Re: [meteorite-list] Munich Show 2006 - Photos

2006-11-08 Thread Matthias Bärmann
Thanks, dear Hanno Struve, for the great pics! Comforts the soul of a poor 
loner who had to miss the show this year.


And, wow ... looking at the Millbillillies makes one shake ...

By the way: first time that I realized Mike Farmer's coiffure to be 
FLIGHT-ORIENTED !


Sincerely,

Matthias



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Hallo friends

I have some photos from the Munich Show last weekend available on my 
homepage.


Take a look and enjoy the photos.

Here is the link to click on it, or to copy into your browser.

http://www.strufe.net/mu2006a.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006b.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006c.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006d.htm


Best regards

Hanno Strufe
Langenbergstrasse 32
66954 Pirmasens
Germany
Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105
www.strufe.net
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[meteorite-list] Fw: New Issue: Recent gas escape from the Moon

2006-11-08 Thread Gerald Flaherty

Another interesting speculative PSRD document.
Enjoy
Jerry Flaherty
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New Issue:
Recent Gas Escape from the Moon --- Gases may have escaped from the Moon 
as recently as a million years ago, implying that the lunar interior is 
not as lethargic as conventional wisdom dictates.


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[meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin 


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RE: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mike Bandli
I know for a fact that this is true having witnessed it myself. They do this
mistaking them for nuts (still in the shell). The rocks happen to resemble
the shape and color of a nut, so they will often drop them from high up
hoping that they will shatter. Crows are the main culprit. I have also seen
crows dropping rocks and walnuts onto the road, hoping that cars will run
them over and reveal the meaty interior. Smart creatures! Now if only we
could train some pigeons to go to NWA and hunt for dark colored 'Nuts' in
the sand...

Kind regards,
 
Mike Bandli
www.Astro-Artifacts.com
A Destination For Space Related Artifacts
 

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mark
What some birds, such as the magpie and crows, is that they are attracted to 
bright and shinny objects. One species, and I can't remember which it is, 
will actually collect things to line his nest to make himself more 
attractive to the female. If they are disturbed in anyway while flying, they 
will drop whatever they are carrying.


Another possibility is that some of these rocks are from birds just taking 
off. Birds will eliminate feces at takeoff to lighten their load and of 
course, gizzard stones do get passed when they become too smooth


Hope this will help a little.

Mark Ferguson
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Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard 
a

stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies 
caused

troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a 
behaviour?


Martin


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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:52:03 +0100, you wrote:

Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?

There are types of birds that collect objects for some reason or another.

http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq11702.html

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/bowerbird/odd.html
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AW: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Thanks Mike, Mark and Mark!

Indeed crows, ravens, magpies are very intelligent, do have compared to
mammals a developped idea of numbers and are even able to use tools.
I prefer the nuts-thing, as the stones aren't directly decorative.

I remember a little tropical bird, who accurately sorted by colours
decorates in front of his nest objects like petals, beetle elytrons ect. to
impress the ladies.

Most crazy are the Keas, they easily get bored and like to play half of the
day.

Chirp!
Martin

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I know for a fact that this is true having witnessed it myself. They do this
mistaking them for nuts (still in the shell). The rocks happen to resemble
the shape and color of a nut, so they will often drop them from high up
hoping that they will shatter. Crows are the main culprit. I have also seen
crows dropping rocks and walnuts onto the road, hoping that cars will run
them over and reveal the meaty interior. Smart creatures! Now if only we
could train some pigeons to go to NWA and hunt for dark colored 'Nuts' in
the sand...

Kind regards,
 
Mike Bandli
www.Astro-Artifacts.com
A Destination For Space Related Artifacts
 

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Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
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Martin 


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread lebofsky
Hi from Tucson where Global Warming seems to be in action.

We (Astronomy Department, Planetary Sciences Department, and Flandrau
Science Center) had more than 10 telecopes set up (including two 20-inch
scopes). We were able to see all but the last five minutes of the event
(went behind the trees).

However, it was 88 F or 89 F here (too tired to convert to C or K). Five
hours in the Tucson Sun with not a cloud to be seen!

We had several telescopes (including mine) with H-alpha filters and so
were able to see a few sunspots as well as several soiar flares. Oh yes,
and Mercury!

Larry

On Wed, November 8, 2006 2:16 pm, Matson, Robert wrote:
 Hi Sterling,


 Fortunately, we've got an 8 S-C out with a solar filter
 here at work, so I've been able to follow the progress of the transit just
 fine outdoors.  I was just hoping to see the greater detail afforded by a
 big scope... --Rob


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 Hi,


 I suspect overwhelmed servers. I got several
 Server Not Available messages. But the rest of
 the sites I tried just rolled over and died. I guess it's nice that more
 people than one might have thought wanted to watch a live celestial event.
  I hope the servers didn't just fail and somebody got
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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mr EMan
Ok Meteorite Trivia Buffs...Wasn't there a meteorite
recovered which had been nesstled into the lining of a
penguin nest(sic) or other species of sea bird?

Elton
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Re: [meteorite-list] Munich Show 2006 - Photos

2006-11-08 Thread JKGwilliam

Hanno,
Thanks for sharing a great bunch of pictures. It would be wonderful if we 
could get all of you European collectors/dealers to come to the Tucson Show.


Thanks,
John Gwilliam

At 03:07 PM 11/8/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hallo friends

I have some photos from the Munich Show last weekend available on my homepage.

Take a look and enjoy the photos.

Here is the link to click on it, or to copy into your browser.

http://www.strufe.net/mu2006a.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006b.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006c.htm
http://www.strufe.net/mu2006d.htm


Best regards

Hanno Strufe
Langenbergstrasse 32
66954 Pirmasens
Germany
Phone + Fax: +49 6331 225 105
www.strufe.net
IMCA #4267

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT -- Mercury Transit

2006-11-08 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello Meteorite friends and acquaintances,

What a wonderful time I've had on my trip to the USA with the local
astronomy club during the planetary syzygy championed by that little
hot-shot of a planet, Mercury.  I'd like to share this story...

The ancient messenger Planet swiftly vulcanized the attention of the local
astronomy boys here on my trip to the US of A recovering from post-election
blues and golds.  More than a dozen telescopes had their glassy hearts set
upon Mercury who brashly made his appearance right on schedule.  It was a
couple of hours after midday ... and prominent Mercury boldly blocked our
Sunlight from his little corner in the heavens through everyone's plossyls.

Slow at first, rowing unfalteringly across the immense Solar ocean with the
precision of a metronome, and teased by a tormenting giant sunspot dwarfing
him to the uninitiated, as well.  It reminded me of a refreshing Hurricane
on the scalding solar photosphere and a lone Mariner in a dinghy daring to
do the impossible and savoring the improbable by never looking behind.  Not
forty-five minutes had elapsed and my thoughts marveled at the speed of the
relative motion was between these daylight divinities, as Mercury interred
invisibly deeper toward the center of the Sun's disk.  Onward, and onward
Mercury sailed his charted course right falling like a cute mole in the
center of golden solar frame...continuing the show westward towards the
Pacific and leaving Hawaiian rainbows in its wake...

Ahhh - Mercury.  The most dwarfish of planets, excited me without end as I
imagined that the curious circular object I followed.  The Messenger brought
me back to feelings of kindergarten.  When the kids put bright light bulbs
in front (or was it behind?) as we babes imagined ourselves as mad-scientist
with work of great importance in Arts and Crafts class.  Cobbling away, we'd
trace the silhouettes of our partners; then, the black construction paper
heads we glued on a bright red or green backgrounds with the greatest care.
Those were the days!

Fast-forward from nursery school and kindergarten ... to just a couple of
orbits later.  I see Daddy elatedly at work; he dramatically photographed
the spectacular Mercury transit of 1970, like the great Cosmic Hunter
stalking His prey with that peculiar filter and star drive on his gleaming
and lovingly crafted telescope.  This was wonderful early bird day in May of
a clear-skied Sunrise.  It had begun with a Solar ball of fire upon the
horizon and then in lock-step ascended towards the zenith of the Astronomy
dreams for us all.  How I remember Dad's disappearance into the darkroom
that eventful Saturday after the eye-opening events of that early Sun.  This
culminated with the familial celebrations and Dad's handing me His beautiful
black and white photographic Mercury masterpiece.  My own picture of Mercury
with his kind annotations joined the home hall of fame right next to my
fading silhouette on tattered construction paper still pasted on the dining
room wall.  On Monday, I excitedly shared this enlarged enlightenment with
all the big kids in homeroom and we all laughed and laughed about the little
buggers in kindergarten who we smugly imagined were challenged to make heads
or tails out of looking through a telescopic image - compared to all of our
light bulb silhouette kids' eclipses that everyone still remembered almost
vividly.

Great balls of fire!  What a great picture of Mercury!  Or should I say, the
silhouette of Mercury against a great ball of fire...  It didn't matter what
it was.  The effect is that which meaningfully mesmerizes.  What resounded
in our youthful hearts was a great appreciation we all felt for our place in
the universe. Thanks to Mercury.  Mercury, that little planet, why it's
smaller than a pea!  Just look at the Sun! A small star millions of times
BIGGER than Mercury or Earth and it didn't need any explaining to send
excitingly great goose bumps to dare thoughts of insignificance and truths
of the universe.   Even a little kid could relate to the immensity of the
Solar system with this photograph, or the lucky view through the telescope.

Oh, today at the Astronomy Club meeting there was the now common selection
of hydrogen alpha and other filters, a couple of bloody red views of the Sun
where Solar flares or prominences were visible to all the lucky onlookers
thanks to the never ending goodwill of the group. Some of these prominences
are even larger than Mercury!  And there was the solar storm spot which had
a seemingly spiral profile...  Then there were the earthly clouds brushing
across the face of the Sun with little Mercury sometime peaking through, and
sometime all was occulted by the yangs and pangs of clouds and
astronomy...all the time I couldn't help thinking that Dad was beside me and
His vernal spirit hosting the glorious celebration I was lucky to attend
today after a 36 1/2 year sabbatical.  It was a grand sight and a grand day.
How my mind now