Re: [meteorite-list] NWA w/ gorgeous inclusions - what do you think?
Very nice stone Mike! Beautiful Congratulations and thanks for sharing the results of your investigations about the inclusions; I don't really know what to suggest about them and will be interested in reading what will come out of scientific studies... All the best, Frederic - Original Message - From: Mike Bandli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Meteorite Mailing List' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:32 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA w/ gorgeous inclusions - what do you think? http://www.astro-artifacts.com/Astroartifacts/nwa_inclusion.html This magnificent and unclassified 1.4 Kg stone finally arrived today and, although we have already seen it on RFS Picture of the Day, I thought I would post some pics of it and its inclusions. It really looks much better in person and is full of interesting features and inclusions. I have scanned and photographed it in detail. I would love to know your thoughts on the inclusion now with these more detailed pics. Thanks! Kind regards, Mike Bandli __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] More California Meteorite Finds!
GREAT! Well done to you and your son, Ruben!! Cheers Fred - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; moni [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 2:48 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] More California Meteorite Finds! Hi All, Here's some recent California Meteorite Finds. http://www.mr-meteorite.com/californiafindspart2.htm The prior weeks finds: http://www.mr-meteorite.com/californiafindspart1.htm Ruben Garcia Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay Auctions
Hello Everyone, Just got back from a few days in Atlanta. I like Atlanta, but the traffic makes me nervous, especially around spaghetti junction and I-285 (Atlantans know what I am referring to). I have a few ebay auctions ending today (more will follow) including 4 Martians, a large and VERY stable Campo del Cielo and 10 micromounts in a interesting case with see-through top that snaps closed. To view the auctions, just do an ebay search on item number 130052595305 (the micromounts) then view seller's other auctions. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again)
There's just no getting around it Steve's always right. David L. Carothers, annandale, Va, Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 7/11/2005!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) Mr Arnold wrote: I did not purchase it. I know. Mr Arnold also wrote: I traded for it. I know and I also know what you traded it for. Mr Arnold's final comment: Please stand corrected on this. I do, and, well, I know how long you had what you traded it for. So, please, accept my apologies for intruding upon your unlimited empire of self-righteousness and self-indulgence. I would also like to apologize for bothering you with my post about monomict-genomict-polymict eucrites and my uncalled-for information on NWA 1685. OK, how could I dare tell an old-time meteorite expert about my trivial impressions. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Bernd V. Pauli, ketsch, B.W. Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since xx/xx/ 1984!! Doh!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again)
Yep Dave, Steve is always right... ...but we all know it better! Martin E. Altmann, Munich, Bavaria!! Collecting Meteorites since 10/30/1981!! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Carothers Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 16:01 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) There's just no getting around it Steve's always right. David L. Carothers, annandale, Va, Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 7/11/2005!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) Mr Arnold wrote: I did not purchase it. I know. Mr Arnold also wrote: I traded for it. I know and I also know what you traded it for. Mr Arnold's final comment: Please stand corrected on this. I do, and, well, I know how long you had what you traded it for. So, please, accept my apologies for intruding upon your unlimited empire of self-righteousness and self-indulgence. I would also like to apologize for bothering you with my post about monomict-genomict-polymict eucrites and my uncalled-for information on NWA 1685. OK, how could I dare tell an old-time meteorite expert about my trivial impressions. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Bernd V. Pauli, ketsch, B.W. Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since xx/xx/ 1984!! Doh!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again)
Coz we´re living in a parallel universe to Steve´s!!! Where da good and da brave collecters hide and seek Hermann Wilhelm Alexander Seidel, Berlin/Stade, Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since 42/42/1992!! Steve is always right... ...but we all know it better! Martin E. Altmann, Munich, Bavaria!! Collecting Meteorites since 10/30/1981!! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Carothers Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 16:01 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) There's just no getting around it Steve's always right. David L. Carothers, annandale, Va, Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 7/11/2005!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) Mr Arnold wrote: I did not purchase it. I know. Mr Arnold also wrote: I traded for it. I know and I also know what you traded it for. Mr Arnold's final comment: Please stand corrected on this. I do, and, well, I know how long you had what you traded it for. So, please, accept my apologies for intruding upon your unlimited empire of self-righteousness and self-indulgence. I would also like to apologize for bothering you with my post about monomict-genomict-polymict eucrites and my uncalled-for information on NWA 1685. OK, how could I dare tell an old-time meteorite expert about my trivial impressions. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Bernd V. Pauli, ketsch, B.W. Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since xx/xx/ 1984!! Doh!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay auctions
Hello I have put some auctions of nice NWA not analyzed with crust, who want ID mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Info needed
hello In a italian museum collection I have found 3 meteorites with strange names and locality not found on catalogue, is: Lionle County - Found 1881, Kansas, USA. Iron. Muana Poglica - South Africa. Chondrite Sierra Leon - Iron I have the photos of the first 2 Lionle County http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8945/lionlecountyst5.jpg Muana Poglica http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey condrules http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg any idea what is it? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again)
A parallel universe...hthat could explain the aberrant behavior. Is there a name for this parallel place? John Gwilliam, Tempe, Arizona, USA Collecting Meteorites since 2-7-82 At 09:12 AM 12/3/2006, Alexander Seidel wrote: Coz we´re living in a parallel universe to Steve´s!!! Where da good and da brave collecters hide and seek Hermann Wilhelm Alexander Seidel, Berlin/Stade, Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since 42/42/1992!! Steve is always right... ...but we all know it better! Martin E. Altmann, Munich, Bavaria!! Collecting Meteorites since 10/30/1981!! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Carothers Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2006 16:01 An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) There's just no getting around it Steve's always right. David L. Carothers, annandale, Va, Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 7/11/2005!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) Mr Arnold wrote: I did not purchase it. I know. Mr Arnold also wrote: I traded for it. I know and I also know what you traded it for. Mr Arnold's final comment: Please stand corrected on this. I do, and, well, I know how long you had what you traded it for. So, please, accept my apologies for intruding upon your unlimited empire of self-righteousness and self-indulgence. I would also like to apologize for bothering you with my post about monomict-genomict-polymict eucrites and my uncalled-for information on NWA 1685. OK, how could I dare tell an old-time meteorite expert about my trivial impressions. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Bernd V. Pauli, ketsch, B.W. Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since xx/xx/ 1984!! Doh!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
Hi, Le Lion The first item on your list is ADMIRE, a pallasite (a mass of 12 to 15lb [5.4 to 6.8kg] was ploughed up in 1881, and other masses later) in LYON COUNTY, KANSAS in 1881. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Info needed hello In a italian museum collection I have found 3 meteorites with strange names and locality not found on catalogue, is: Lionle County - Found 1881, Kansas, USA. Iron. Muana Poglica - South Africa. Chondrite Sierra Leon - Iron I have the photos of the first 2 Lionle County http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8945/lionlecountyst5.jpg Muana Poglica http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey condrules http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg any idea what is it? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ferro Meteorico Lionle Co Kansas L. 70
Hello Matteo, Sterling and List, Last February I, too, thought and wrote this might be the ADMIRE pallasite because of the find date. But the picture clearly shows that this meteorite is an iron and not a pallasite. The etch pattern seems to be that of a IIIAB iron and this narrows my speculations down to the Tonganoxie IIIAB iron which was found in Leavenworth County in, well, 1886 :-( But, look what I've unearthed :-) BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, p. 1224: According to Snow (1891) and Bailey (1891), the mass was irregular of shape, resembling a lion couchant (sleeping lion), and measuring 24 x 16 x 9 cm. So, maybe the meteorite in question is Tonganoxie and the date of find was erroneously given as that of the Admire pallasite. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] How to buy my book ?
Hello to the List, Some of you ask me frequently where to buy my book Les Meteorites de France easily ? Here are a few links to buy it in a Canadian bookshop : http://www.polymtl.ca/pub/doc.php?id=7324l=eng My book is in french but provides the most detailed information about french meteorites, including historical falls as Ensisheim, l'Aigle, Barbotan, Chassigny, Juvinas, Mont Dieu and many more. There are many exclusive pictures and information about potential new finds. Best regards, Pierre-Marie PELE ___ Découvrez une nouvelle façon d'obtenir des réponses à toutes vos questions ! Profitez des connaissances, des opinions et des expériences des internautes sur Yahoo! Questions/Réponses http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Info needed
Muana Poglica: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg As for the Muana Poglica, the label says E(ast) Africa not S(outh) Africa, although this doesn't help much. I did a Google search and found the second part of the word Poglica but the texts are written with Cyrillic letters. Maybe Sergey can help here. in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey chondrules: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg Hello, Holbrook experts out there. Could that be a fresh Holbrook??? Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ferro Meteorico Lionle Co Kansas L. 70
Hi, Matteo, Bernd, List After being referred to another UP address, I couldn't get the image to display, so was deprived of a look at the picture. I guessed on the basis of the date and the transliteration of lyon and lion. Now, we have meteorite heraldry: lion couchant, a curious scientific description even for the 1890's! Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ferro Meteorico Lionle Co Kansas L. 70 Hello Matteo, Sterling and List, Last February I, too, thought and wrote this might be the ADMIRE pallasite because of the find date. But the picture clearly shows that this meteorite is an iron and not a pallasite. The etch pattern seems to be that of a IIIAB iron and this narrows my speculations down to the Tonganoxie IIIAB iron which was found in Leavenworth County in, well, 1886 :-( But, look what I've unearthed :-) BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, p. 1224: According to Snow (1891) and Bailey (1891), the mass was irregular of shape, resembling a lion couchant (sleeping lion), and measuring 24 x 16 x 9 cm. So, maybe the meteorite in question is Tonganoxie and the date of find was erroneously given as that of the Admire pallasite. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
Hi Bernd, A treatment with Babelfish at www.altavista.com tells us that Poglica is a word with a complex indoeuropean etymology, including most closely from Slavic. Apparently it most recently means button, and earlier was derived from roundish things like goiter and roundish ball. Interesting observation on the E for East Africa. Apparently Muana is also a Congolese surname (Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire) and Camaroon were also mentioned). It doesn't look much like an Ivory Coast tektite, but that's what I dug out of the Internet and probably is more than a coincidence for the locality. Might check into the e. African Galim locality meteorites from place name Adamoua, Cameroon. Good luck! Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Info needed Muana Poglica: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg As for the Muana Poglica, the label says E(ast) Africa not S(outh) Africa, although this doesn't help much. I did a Google search and found the second part of the word Poglica but the texts are written with Cyrillic letters. Maybe Sergey can help here. in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey chondrules: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg Hello, Holbrook experts out there. Could that be a fresh Holbrook??? Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again)
Boy Steve, I've never before read a ruffled word of text from Bernd. What else are you capable of, or do I dare ask??? Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 5:03 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1685 and standing corrected (again) Mr Arnold wrote: I did not purchase it. I know. Mr Arnold also wrote: I traded for it. I know and I also know what you traded it for. Mr Arnold's final comment: Please stand corrected on this. I do, and, well, I know how long you had what you traded it for. So, please, accept my apologies for intruding upon your unlimited empire of self-righteousness and self-indulgence. I would also like to apologize for bothering you with my post about monomict-genomict-polymict eucrites and my uncalled-for information on NWA 1685. OK, how could I dare tell an old-time meteorite expert about my trivial impressions. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! Bernd V. Pauli, ketsch, B.W. Germany!! Collecting Meteorites since xx/xx/ 1984!! Doh!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Coins, Space Envelope and Stable Morasko !
Hi List I have several new Nantan Coins on Ebay and also (this time for true) LAST 10$ Liberia Coin with NWA267. Last chance for collector who missed this coin years ago. Coin will come with wood box. This will be free extra gift. I have also envelope that was stamped IN SPACE on Russian spacecraft Salut 7 !!! Item from my friend, I not collect envelopes :) And last, true, stable endpiece of MORASKO IIICD with beautifull regmaglypted back and nice etched front. I have this specimen from more than a year so I'm sure how stable is this specimen. There will be no surprize to collector who will buy it. It will not rust. Photo of back sice looks little strange :) but it was carefuly cleaned so it sontain ONLY clean iron and fussion crust, no remains from rust and dirt, becouse this can cause rusting on specimens. http://stores.ebay.com/PolandMET-Store -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 1685
Hi ho Anyone else have photos of this interesting meteorite ? Becouse there are only Ohhh and Ahhh about it but no photos except our Australia friend. Maybe Steve ? :D -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Stocking Stuffers
Hello Everyone! We have finished another page of our new Meteorites For Sale section on meteorite.com Our Banner Advertisers have some nice stocking stuffers for Santa and Mrs. Santa http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-jewelry.htm Enjoy, Paul and Jim ** Paul Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Meteorite Exchange, Inc. http://www.meteorite.com Meteorite-Times Magazine http://www.meteorite-times.com PO Box 7000-455, Redondo Beach, CA 90277 USA *** __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
Hi Mateo and List, It also seems to me, that on the photo shown by Mateo, the E. Africa stands for East Africa: I was born in Mozambique in 1945 - what was known as Portuguese East Africa - until its independence from Portugal in 1975. For the Macua tribe (who live in north of Mozambique, the same region where I was born), the word MUANA means child, kid, and also, there is vaguely, an area known as terras de muana (lands of muana), - but I do not know its coordinates. Could this area in northern Mozambique be related to the meteorite shown in the photo? José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed Hi Bernd, A treatment with Babelfish at www.altavista.com tells us that Poglica is a word with a complex indoeuropean etymology, including most closely from Slavic. Apparently it most recently means button, and earlier was derived from roundish things like goiter and roundish ball. Interesting observation on the E for East Africa. Apparently Muana is also a Congolese surname (Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire) and Camaroon were also mentioned). It doesn't look much like an Ivory Coast tektite, but that's what I dug out of the Internet and probably is more than a coincidence for the locality. Might check into the e. African Galim locality meteorites from place name Adamoua, Cameroon. Good luck! Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Info needed Muana Poglica: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg As for the Muana Poglica, the label says E(ast) Africa not S(outh) Africa, although this doesn't help much. I did a Google search and found the second part of the word Poglica but the texts are written with Cyrillic letters. Maybe Sergey can help here. in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey chondrules: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg Hello, Holbrook experts out there. Could that be a fresh Holbrook??? Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
Coordinates appear to be 14° 55' 20S / 37° 51' 56E Dave - Original Message - From: Jose Campos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed Hi Mateo and List, It also seems to me, that on the photo shown by Mateo, the E. Africa stands for East Africa: I was born in Mozambique in 1945 - what was known as Portuguese East Africa - until its independence from Portugal in 1975. For the Macua tribe (who live in north of Mozambique, the same region where I was born), the word MUANA means child, kid, and also, there is vaguely, an area known as terras de muana (lands of muana), - but I do not know its coordinates. Could this area in northern Mozambique be related to the meteorite shown in the photo? José Campos Portugal - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed Hi Bernd, A treatment with Babelfish at www.altavista.com tells us that Poglica is a word with a complex indoeuropean etymology, including most closely from Slavic. Apparently it most recently means button, and earlier was derived from roundish things like goiter and roundish ball. Interesting observation on the E for East Africa. Apparently Muana is also a Congolese surname (Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire) and Camaroon were also mentioned). It doesn't look much like an Ivory Coast tektite, but that's what I dug out of the Internet and probably is more than a coincidence for the locality. Might check into the e. African Galim locality meteorites from place name Adamoua, Cameroon. Good luck! Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 3:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Info needed Muana Poglica: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg As for the Muana Poglica, the label says E(ast) Africa not S(outh) Africa, although this doesn't help much. I did a Google search and found the second part of the word Poglica but the texts are written with Cyrillic letters. Maybe Sergey can help here. in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey chondrules: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg Hello, Holbrook experts out there. Could that be a fresh Holbrook??? Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
Steve Dunklee has invited you to view 2 photos on Yahoo! Photos. On nov 18 at 11:15 pm Rebecca moore of Spring mill Arkansas was returning home from work when she observed a lime greem meteorite fall and explode as a bolide directly in front of her. She was at the top of a hill facing northwest next to a bluff that limits a view of the sky to a few degrees. At the same time Gary Sudol of Mt Pleasant arkansas ras removing his briefcase from his car two miles south of Rebecca and facing nearly north and observed the same fall saying it looked as if it fell right behind the hill behind the office. This narrowed rhe search area to around two miles away covering an area of around 2000 square feet. This morning being the first time I could search in daylight I recovered several small stones which test positive for nickel and stick to a magnet. The largest weighs 26 grams and is in the photos Best regards Steve If you can't see the button above, use this link: http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sdunklee72520=576460762359134600==54pjM5KC_Q9KTC8Qk_hREw--=1165172077&.src=""> Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Museum Quality/World Class Meteorite Sale on eBay
Hi List, I have some incredible meteorites for sale on eBay right now, being offered at amazing prices. Included: a HUGE classified lunar ½ stone, very large Gujba, several incredible pallasites (Imilac, Albin, Fukang), and more. Please click the link below to view these auctions. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZticksandleetchesQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 Thanks for looking and happy holidays! Marshall - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ferro Meteorico Lionle Co Kansas L. 70
hello in few words this meteorite is Tonganoxie? regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Hello Matteo, Sterling and List, Last February I, too, thought and wrote this might be the ADMIRE pallasite because of the find date. But the picture clearly shows that this meteorite is an iron and not a pallasite. The etch pattern seems to be that of a IIIAB iron and this narrows my speculations down to the Tonganoxie IIIAB iron which was found in Leavenworth County in, well, 1886 :-( But, look what I've unearthed :-) BUCHWALD V.F. (1975) Handbook of Iron Meteorites, Volume 3, p. 1224: According to Snow (1891) and Bailey (1891), the mass was irregular of shape, resembling a lion couchant (sleeping lion), and measuring 24 x 16 x 9 cm. So, maybe the meteorite in question is Tonganoxie and the date of find was erroneously given as that of the Admire pallasite. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Info needed
hello no Holbrook no, the matrix is similar to johnstown but the magnetism its of a L chondrite Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Muana Poglica: http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6839/muanaan2.jpg As for the Muana Poglica, the label says E(ast) Africa not S(outh) Africa, although this doesn't help much. I did a Google search and found the second part of the word Poglica but the texts are written with Cyrillic letters. Maybe Sergey can help here. in another museum I have found this meteorite without any info, the crust is complete and fresh, and the face broken show this matrix green color with metal and grey chondrules: http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6710/1mu1.jpg Hello, Holbrook experts out there. Could that be a fresh Holbrook??? Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
Way to GO Steve! Good luck on the analysis!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite Steve Dunklee has invited you to view 2 photos on Yahoo! Photos. On nov 18 at 11:15 pm Rebecca moore of Spring mill Arkansas was returning home from work when she observed a lime greem meteorite fall and explode as a bolide directly in front of her. She was at the top of a hill facing northwest next to a bluff that limits a view of the sky to a few degrees. At the same time Gary Sudol of Mt Pleasant arkansas ras removing his briefcase from his car two miles south of Rebecca and facing nearly north and observed the same fall saying it looked as if it fell right behind the hill behind the office. This narrowed rhe search area to around two miles away covering an area of around 2000 square feet. This morning being the first time I could search in daylight I recovered several small stones which test positive for nickel and stick to a magnet. The largest weighs 26 grams and is in the photos Best regards Steve If you can't see the button above, use this link: http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=sdunklee72520aid=576460762359134600pid=wtok=54pjM5KC_Q9KTC8Qk_hREw--ts=1165172077.src=ph Note: This email invitation will expire after 90 days. -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list gifKxUWpY9jHG.gif Description: GIF image jpgToOr6VCQ6R.jpg Description: JPEG image gif79JSHUwzPc.gif Description: GIF image __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Ebay Auctions
Hello Walter, I thought about bidding on your Campo del Cielo but decided against it as I already have two larger specimens. I noticed that it did not sell and, as I think about it, it is a pretty piece and, if it is been quite stable at room humidity, I might like to pick it up to display at work. All my other specimens at home are inside cabinets with silica gel and see no humidity but it would be nice to have one sample out in the open where it could easily be seen. Would you consider an offer of $45 per kilogram for the specimen? Best wishes, Jim Baxter p.s. I'll be away from the computer for a couple hours but will check for your reply on my return. Thanks. JB Hello Everyone, Just got back from a few days in Atlanta. I like Atlanta, but the traffic makes me nervous, especially around spaghetti junction and I-285 (Atlantans know what I am referring to). I have a few ebay auctions ending today (more will follow) including 4 Martians, a large and VERY stable Campo del Cielo and 10 micromounts in a interesting case with see-through top that snaps closed. To view the auctions, just do an ebay search on item number 130052595305 (the micromounts) then view seller's other auctions. -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
Looks like some old chunk of slag to me. Sorry, but freshly fallen meteorites are BLACK, not rusty and looking like they have been on the ground for 100 years! Not a meteorite. You may have seen a meteor, but this is not the result of it. Michael Farmer Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
That doesn't look like a meteorite (especially not a freshly fallen one), but even assuming it is: -Leonids really have no chance of making it to the ground. Aside from the fact that the material is probably fragile, it is going way to fast. Leonids are always observed to burn up at high altitude. -Any meteor seen exploding more or less in front of an observer (that is, at low elevation) is certain to be very far from that observer, and still at high altitude (100+ miles away). In other words, if that is a meteorite, it isn't a Leonid, and it doesn't have anything to do with the fireball reported by your witnesses. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite Steve Dunklee has invited you to view 2 photos on Yahoo! Photos. On nov 18 at 11:15 pm Rebecca moore of Spring mill Arkansas was returning home from work when she observed a lime greem meteorite fall and explode as a bolide directly in front of her. She was at the top of a hill facing northwest next to a bluff that limits a view of the sky to a few degrees. At the same time Gary Sudol of Mt Pleasant arkansas ras removing his briefcase from his car two miles south of Rebecca and facing nearly north and observed the same fall saying it looked as if it fell right behind the hill behind the office. This narrowed rhe search area to around two miles away covering an area of around 2000 square feet. This morning being the first time I could search in daylight I recovered several small stones which test positive for nickel and stick to a magnet. The largest weighs 26 grams and is in the photos Best regards Steve __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] possible leonid meteorite
This narrowed the search area to around two miles away covering an area of around 2000 square feet. http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1971SAOSR.336.M Here is a link to a nice article on the recovery of the Lost City meteorite, and how much difficulty they had, with several photogrpahs of different trails to go by. To narrow something down to 2000 square feet, less then 45 feet by 45 feet, I do not think is possible. Don't let this discourage youthey are out there. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Kansas Meteorite!
This cannot be a witnessed fall? A crash is heard in the trees and 2 days later a meteorite as fresh as the morning dew is found at the location where the crash was heard.. Will the witness please tell the court exactly what you heard outside your door on the evening of Maybe something along the lines of there is some evidence to suggest the stone fell 2 days prior to it's recovery.. Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - December 1, 2006
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Passing the 1,000-Sol Mark - sol 996-1001, December 1, 2006: Opportunity is healthy and is driving to the promontory called Cape St. Mary. From that vantage point, Opportunity will photograph the sedimentary layers in the northeast-facing cliff of Cape Verde, thus completing the imaging of both sides of the promontory in order to see the continuity of the layers. Opportunity continues to take long-baseline stereo images around the crater approximately every 10 meters (33 feet) in order to eventually acquire a detailed three-dimensional map of the crater. Opportunity drove about 33 meters (108 feet) on sol 994. This week Opportunity is also celebrating its 1,000th sol anniversary of landing! Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 996 (Nov. 12, 2006): Opportunity took a tau (atmospheric clarity) measurement before its communication window with NASA's Mars Odyssey spacecraft. The rover also took a tau measurement at sunset. Since a lot of data were onboard Opportunity, several sols during this period were light on science in order to free up some of the rover's flash memory. Sol 997: The rover took two tau measurements this sol. Sol 998: The rover took two tau measurements this sol. Sol 999: Opportunity took a tau measurement, then headed toward the Cape St. Mary promontory. In the middle of that 7.5-meter (25-foot) drive, the rover conducted a panoramic camera baseline test. After the drive, the rover took images with its navigation camera. During the Odyssey pass, the miniature thermal emission spectrometer completed an examination of the area in front of the rover. Sol 1000: In the morning, the rover's panoramic camera took thumbnail images of the sky. The miniature thermal emission spectrometer observed sky and ground. Opportunity also took a tau measurement and used its panoramic camera to survey the sun. Sol 1001: In the morning, Opportunity looked for clouds and looked down at its solar panels to monitor dust accumulation. The miniature thermal emission spectrometer was busy assessing the ground and sky while the panoramic camera surveyed the ground in front of the rover. Several tau measurements were taken. As of sol 1,000 (Nov. 16, 2006), Opportunity's total odometry is 9,473 meters (5.89 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Seventh International Conference on Mars
http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/7thmars2007/home.shtml The Seventh International Conference on Mars July 9-13, 2006 Pasadena, California First Announcement - November 2006 SPONSORS - Mars Exploration Program, Lunar and Planetary Institute, California Institute of Technology, National Aeronautics and Space Administration CONVENERS - Daniel McCleese, Chief Scientist, Jet Propulsion Laboratory David Beaty, Mars Exploration Program, Jet Propulsion Laboratory PURPOSE AND SCOPE The Seventh International Conference on Mars will be held at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), July 9-13, 2007. At that time we will have completed an unparalleled ten years of concentrated exploration of the Red Planet. This period includes six missions (1996 Mars Global Surveyor, 1996 Mars Pathfinder, 2001 Mars Odyssey, 2003 Mars Exploration Rover, 2003 Mars Express, and 2005 Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter), as well as telescopic observations from Earth, studies of martian meteorites, and a variety of numerical and laboratory modeling activities. This is an ideal time to consolidate the primary paradigms that have been developed about Mars. In addition, this conference will provide an opportunity to review and debate some of the key questions and controversies that remain open. MEETING FORMAT The conference will be organized into morning and afternoon oral sessions configured around topical themes, along with supporting mid-day poster sessions of broader scope. Each oral session is envisioned to consist of a mixture of one or more invited summary papers to introduce the topic, a set of supporting contributed papers, and ample time for discussion. The poster sessions will have broader scope than the oral sessions, and papers of almost any relevancy to our understanding of Mars are solicited. The program committee will establish the details of the conference program on the basis of the abstract submittals. The identity of the theme areas for the oral sessions is open, and input from the community is welcome. In order to maximize the opportunities for the participants to interact around the posters, box lunches will be provided all five days of the conference. A conference banquet will be planned at the Caltech Athenaeum during the conference. Scientists interested in any aspect of Mars should plan to attend. However, since the Second International Workshop on Exploring Mars and its Earth Analogues http://www.geologiaplanetaria.org/fieldworkshop.pdf is being held just before the Seventh International Mars Conference, discussions on terrestrial analogs will be minimized. An abstract volume on CD-ROM will be prepared in a format similar to that established by the LPSC meeting. Complete details for preparing and submitting your abstract electronically will be posted on the conference website, as well as details on hotels, registration, and social events. STUDENT SUPPORT Students are encouraged to attend, and student travel support is available. Additional details will be available in the second announcement. We encourage both beginning graduate students, who are trying to decide whether or not to pursue thesis work related to Mars, as well as finishing graduate students who have results to share. FUTURE ANNOUNCEMENTS More detailed information will be available in future announcements on this website (see schedule below). To aid in planning purposes, we strongly urge you to submit an Indication of Intent form http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/7thmars2007/7thmars2007.iofi.cfm by March 1, 2007. The information on this form will not only provide invaluable information for the meeting organizers as they plan logistical strategies for the conference, but will also subscribe you to an e-mail notification list to receive updates and reminders relating to the meeting. CONTACT INFORMATION For further information regarding format and scientific objectives, contact DAVID BEATY Jet Propulsion Laboratory Phone: 818-354-7968 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further information regarding conference logistics and announcements,
[meteorite-list] Frequent Fireballs
http://spaceweather.com/ Frequent Fireballs spaceweathter.com December 3, 2006 HOW MANY FIREBALLS? Have you ever stepped outside after dinner to walk the dog--just in time to see a bright fireball streak across the sky? It makes you wonder, how often does that happen? Pretty often, according to astronomer Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center. Using a computer model of Earth's meteoroid environment, he made this plot showing the global number of fireballs per day vs. the brightness of the fireball: [Plot] According to his calculations, fireballs as bright as Venus appear somewhere on Earth more than 100 times daily. Fireballs as bright as a quarter Moon occur once every ten days, approximately, and fireballs as bright as a full Moon once every five months. The vast majority are never noticed. About 70% of all fireballs streak over uninhabited ocean. Half appear during the day, invisible in sunny skies. Many are missed, however, simply because no one bothers to look up. So grab a leash and a dog (optional), and head outside. The chance of a fireball is better than you think. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Threat is Out There (Asteroid 99942 Apophis)
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4201569.html The Threat is Out There More than 100,000 asteroids hurtle past our planet. But only one - that we know of - may hit us in the next 30 years. BY David Noland Popular Mechanics December 2006 issue Friday the 13th of April 2029 could be a very unlucky day for planet Earth. At 4:36 am Greenwich Mean Time, a 25-million-ton, 820-ft.-wide asteroid called 99942 Apophis will slice across the orbit of the moon and barrel toward Earth at more than 28,000 mph. The huge pockmarked rock, two-thirds the size of Devils Tower in Wyoming, will pack the energy of 65,000 Hiroshima bombs- enough to wipe out a small country or kick up an 800-ft. tsunami. On this day, however, Apophis is not expected to live up to its namesake, the ancient Egyptian god of darkness and destruction. Scientists are 99.7 percent certain it will pass at a distance of 18,800 to 20,800 miles. In astronomical terms, 20,000 miles is a mere stone's throw, shorter than a round-trip flight from New York to Melbourne, Australia, and well inside the orbits of Earth's many geosynchronous communications satellites. For a couple of hours after dusk, people in Europe, Africa and western Asia will see what looks like a medium-bright star creeping westward through the constellation of Cancer, making Apophis the first asteroid in human history to be clearly visible to the naked eye. And then it will be gone, having vanished into the dark vastness of space. We will have dodged a cosmic bullet. Maybe. Scientists calculate that if Apophis passes at a distance of exactly 18,893 miles, it will go through a gravitational keyhole. This small region in space - only about a half mile wide, or twice the diameter of the asteroid itself - is where Earth's gravity would perturb Apophis in just the wrong way, causing it to enter an orbit seven-sixths as long as Earth's. In other words, the planet will be squarely in the crosshairs for a potentially catastrophic asteroid impact precisely seven years later, on April 13, 2036. Radar and optical tracking during Apophis's fly-by last summer put the odds of the asteroid passing through the keyhole at about 45,000-to-1. People have a hard time reasoning with low-probability/high-consequence risks, says Michael DeKay of the Center for Risk Perception and Communication at Carnegie Mellon University. Some people say, 'Why bother, it's not really going to happen.' But others say that when the potential consequences are so serious, even a tiny risk is unacceptable. Former astronaut Rusty Schweickart, now 71, knows a thing or two about objects flying through space, having been one himself during a spacewalk on the Apollo 9 mission in 1969. Through the B612 Foundation, which he co-founded in 2001, Schweickart has been prodding NASA to do something about Apophis - and soon. We need to act, he says. If we blow this, it'll be criminal. If the dice do land the wrong way in 2029, Apophis would have to be deflected by some 5000 miles to miss the Earth in 2036. Hollywood notwithstanding, that's a feat far beyond any current human technology. The fanciful mission in the 1998 movie Armageddon - to drill a hole more than 800 ft. into an asteroid and detonate a nuclear bomb inside it - is about as technically feasible as time travel. In reality, after April 13, 2029, there would be little we could do but plot the precise impact point and start evacuating people. According to projections, an Apophis impact would occur somewhere along a curving 30-mile-wide swath stretching across Russia, the Pacific Ocean, Central America and on into the Atlantic. Managua, Nicaragua; San Jose, Costa Rica; and Caracas, Venezuela, all would be in line for near-direct hits and complete destruction. The most likely target, though, is several thousand miles off the West Coast, where Apophis would create a 5-mile-wide, 9000-ft.-deep crater in the water. The collapse of that transient water crater would trigger tsunamis that would hammer California with an hour-long fusillade of 50-ft. waves. BUT DON'T EVACUATE just yet. Although we can't force Apophis to miss the Earth after 2029, we have the technology to nudge it slightly off course well before then, causing it to miss the keyhole in the first place. According to NASA, a simple 1-ton kinetic energy impactor spacecraft thumping into Apophis at 5000 mph would do the trick. We already have a template for such a mission: NASA's Deep Impact space probe - named after another 1998 cosmic-collision movie - slammed into the comet Tempel 1 in 2005 to gather data about the composition of its surface. Alternatively, an ion-drive-powered gravity tractor spacecraft could hover above Apophis and use its own tiny gravity to gently pull the asteroid off course. In 2005, Schweickart urged NASA administrator Michael Griffin to start planning a mission to land a radio transponder on Apophis. Tracking data from the device would almost certainly confirm that the asteroid
