[meteorite-list] AD - free magnetic meteorite stand offer
Good morning, I am offering a free magnetic meteorite stand (AB1) to those that have yet to try one. I kindly ask for $2 via Paypal to cover my shipping cost to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Photo can be seen at www.SpaceTreasures.com Please let me know your thoughts after you have had a chance to evaluate. Thank you and Best New Year Wishes to All, Mike Gallant __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rovers Update - January 2, 2007
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Rests During Dust Storm - sol 1058-1062, January 02, 2007: A sudden dust storm cut short Spirit's investigation of a volcanic rock and kicked enough dust into the Martian atmosphere to drive solar power levels to an all-time low. Spirit's team of scientists and engineers decided to move the rover to a spot where the solar panels would be tilted toward the sun to increase the amount of electrical power available. The southern hemisphere dust storm lowered power levels to 267 watt-hours on Spirit's 1,061st sol, or Martian day, of exploring Mars (Dec. 27, 2006). Spirit had been using its Moessbauer spectrometer to analyze the mineral composition of a rock nicknamed Esperanza, a piece of lava full of tiny holes and known as vesicular basalt. Due to concern about low power, the team prepared to drive Spirit to a north-tilted spot on the way toward a new target, a layered outcrop known as Troll. Spirit spent the New Year's weekend in one place, monitoring dust and actually resting on a holiday. Sol-by-sol summary: Sol 1058 (Dec. 24, 2006): Spirit completed 4 hours and 42 minutes of analysis of a target known as Palma on the rock Esperanza using the Moessbauer spectrometer. The rover tested Step No. 2 of a software program to watch for dust devils and studied a target known as Boudouin with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 1059: Spirit spent an additional 3 hours and 48 minutes collecting information about Palma with the Moessbauer spectrometer, scanned rock outcrops known as Gurruchaga and Oberth with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, and acquired super-resolution images of a rock target known as Molodezhnaya. Sol 1060: Spirit acquired an additional 4 hours and 47 minutes worth of Moessbauer spectrometer data from Palma and surveyed the Martian horizon with the panoramic camera. Sol 1061: Spirit completed 3.5 hours of Moessbauer spectrometer analysis of Palma, bringing the total number of hours spent collecting data about the rock to 25. Spirit then acquired data from a rock target known as Scott_Base with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and acquired a full-color image of a soil target known as Tyrone using all 13 filters of the panoramic camera. Sol 1062 (Dec. 28, 2006): The team prepared to send Spirit driving about 4 meters (13 feet) to a shallow slope selected because it would tilt the rover's solar arrays toward the sun, which was still fairly low above the northern horizon and dimmed by atmospheric dust. Odometry: On sol 1062 (Dec. 28, 2006), Spirit's total odometry reached 6,891.34 meters (4.28 miles). OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Opportunity Continues Survey from Rim of 'Victoria Crater' - sol 1038-1042, January 02, 2007: Opportunity remains healthy after completing a drive to a cobble nicknamed Santa Catarina on the way to the Bay of Toil at Victoria Crater. During the holiday break on Earth, Opportunity completed a campaign of scientific study of a rock target called Rio De Janeiro before driving away on Sol 1039 (Dec. 26, 2006). Opportunity's next activity was to begin the drive around the Bay of Toil toward Cape Desire, the next promontory clockwise around Victoria's rim. Sol-by-sol summary: Sol 1038 (Dec. 25, 2006): Opportunity acquired data from Rio de Janeiro using the Moessbauer spectrometer, acquired images of cobbles in the vicinity using the panoramic camera, and monitored the rover mast for dust accumulation. Sol 1039: Opportunity drove about 20 meters (66 feet) to the east toward the Bay of Toil. Sol 1040: Opportunity studied the Martian atmosphere using the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer and scanned the sky with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol 1041: Opportunity drove approximately 10 meters (33 feet) east to Santa Catarina, then updated measurements of the rover's current position. Sol 1042 (Dec. 29, 2006): Opportunity acquired panoramic camera images and miniature thermal emission spectrometer scans of the area immediately in front of the rover and then surveyed a broader portion of the sky and ground with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Odometry: As of sol 1042 (Dec. 29, 2006), Opportunity's total odometry was 9,793 meters (6.09 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites On Display At Aerospace Education Center in Arkansas
http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=39507 Meteorites On Display At Aerospace Education Center Today's THV (Little Rock, Arkansas) January 3, 2007 Meteorite enthusiasts can now see an exhibit at the Aerospace Education Center in Little Rock of 18 pieces of the solar system that have fallen to Earth. The center is displaying meteorites that range in size from inches to more than 50 pounds as part of a new Impact Earth! Meteors from Space program. The space rocks are on a one-year loan from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock Physics and Astronomy Department. A piece of the moon, which fell to the Earth as a meteorite after the moon was hit by a comet or meteorite, was found in the Dhofur Desert in Oman and is on loan from Little Rock residents Robert Woolyard and Jerry Hinkle. If you need more information, call the center at (501) 376-4629 or click on the link on the right (http://www.aerospaced.org/). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Tries To Weather Dust Storm
http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn10878-mars-rover-tries-to-weather-dust-storm.html Mars rover tries to weather dust storm Kelly Young New Scientist 02 January 2007 NASA's newly upgraded Spirit rover will celebrate its third anniversary on the Martian surface hunkered down to weather a dust storm. The rover parachuted down to Mars's Gusev Crater on 3 January 2004. Its twin, Opportunity, caught up and landed on the other side of the planet 21 days later. Early last week, Spirit's instruments detected hazy conditions due to a large dust storm to the south that was churning up fine dust grains high in the atmosphere. Because the storms block some sunlight from reaching the planet's surface, they could be dangerous for the rovers, which rely on solar power to generate electricity. So on Thursday, ground controllers had Spirit stop taking scientific measurements of an igneous rock named Esperanza and scurry over to a slope tilted 7.4° to the north to maximise the amount of sunlight falling on its solar arrays. We had to boogie on out of Esperanza, says Ray Arvidson, deputy principal investigator for the rovers' science instruments at Washington University in St Louis, US. 'Lily pad' approach At one point, its solar arrays were able to generate only 267 watt-hours per day. Rover principal investigator Steve Squyres of Cornell University in New York, US, said controllers would start worrying about the rover's safety if the power dipped to 250 watt-hours. 267 was way too close for comfort, Arvidson told New Scientist. That's why we had to get to another site. Moving to the new slope increased its energy output by 30 watt-hours - a crucial boost, since the Sun is still low on Mars's horizon, from Spirit's perspective. In comparison, the rover Opportunity is currently producing about 600 watt-hours per Martian day on the other side of the planet, in a region called Meridiani Planum. Now, Spirit will take a lily-pad approach to exploring Mars. To ensure its safety, it will move from one pre-designated safe haven - an area with a north-facing slope - to another. Once the weather improves, Spirit will likely check out another so-called vesicular basaltic rock, similar to Esperanza. These rocks have large holes that were created by cavities of gas in molten lava, giving them a distinctive, sponge-like appearance. Esperanza was the first type of vesicular basalt ever examined on Mars. New software The Spirit rover, constricted by power and the low Sun, has spent the past nine months in the same location at Low Ridge Haven (see Spirit to start digging the Martian dirt http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9049-spirit-to-start-digging-the-martian-dirt.html). Three weeks ago, it finally got to move around before being ordered to safety. Spirit is also bogged down by a front wheel that will not turn. The rovers were designed to last 90 days. To kick off their fourth year on the planet, they have been upgraded with new software to allow them to operate a little more independently from ground controllers. The new software will allow them to build better maps of the landscape to help them steer clear of obstacles. They should also be able to track a target visually, recognising that it is the same object even when viewing it from different angles. They will also be able to identify dust devils and clouds, so ground controllers will not have to sift through all of the images to identify such features. Because of the power constraints, Spirit has not had a chance to test most of its new software, but it was able to autonomously detect water ice clouds at an altitude of between 10 and 15 kilometres. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Red Fireball in Florida Likely A Meteor
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070103/NEWS01/701030371 Red 'fireball' likely space junk BY JEFF SCHWEERS FLORIDA TODAY January 3, 2007 Minutes before she sat down to watch television Monday night, Marcie Kinney was beckoned by her husband and son to step outside of their Grant-Valkaria home. A red fireball streaked across the sky from west to east just above the tree line. Look up! Look up! they shouted. It only took seconds for Kinney to run into the yard, but the fireball was already dropping out of sight over the horizon. It was coming straight down, leaving black wisps of smoke, she said. Mark Howard, director of the Brevard Community College Planetarium, said it's likely that Kinney saw a meteor, possibly one from the little-known Quadrandit meteor showers, which peak on Thursday. Terry Oswalt, a professor of physics and space sciences at Florida Tech, agreed that what Kinney and her family saw was likely a pea-sized meteor or a piece of space debris. The Earth is constantly bombarded with thousands of chunks of cosmic debris the size of sand granules, Oswalt said. About once a night, something as big as a pea called a bolide and large enough for a casual observer to see with the naked eye shoots through the sky. That may have been what she saw, he said. Oswalt was taking his garbage out around the same time in his Suntree neighborhood but didn't see anything. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay auctions closing shortly
Greetings I hope everyone had a good holiday season. As part of my holiday I got to pick through several kilograms of millbillie individuals. I have 16 millbillillie individuals closing on eBay in a few hours, all 100% crusted except for 2 which are 95+% crusted. Two of the larger millbillillies were purchased for cutting, but since they are also nice individuals I gave them a shot on eBay, buy them and save them from the saw. In addition there are a number of nice sized tatahouine, several different lunar, martian and an exceptional El Sampal slice. http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary -- Eric Olson 7682 Firethorn Dr Fayetteville, NC 28311 http://www.star-bits.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Large ebay sale ending right now, over 100 items!
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorites/ebay/michael_farmer_meteorites.htm Paul was nice enough to build me a great link combining all of my auction items, seen above! Thanks to Paul and Jim for over 10 years of great service! Check out these spectacular offerings! First is a Sikhote-alin, one of those rare pieces that comes up once a year or so, a piece that shows that size does not matter! This little bullet needs no description, the photos say it all. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130063357771 I also have a perfect little Gao oriented stone, a flying saucer if you will, with bubbles and lipping everywhere. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ130062996945 And don't miss the 4.7 kilogram EL6/7 meteorite, started at one cent! http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 So many other items, __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Map program
Google Bushnell GPS and look at their new units which allow you to layer information on the LCD. It alllows you to download satellite photos that are Geo-Referenced to display properly in the unit. This allows you to see your position on a satelitte photo. Mark Phoenix AZ - Original Message - From: Pat Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Map program Hi Mike and the list, All of this GPS functionality can be had in the Garmin GPSMAP60Cx. The unit is about $360 from amazon.com. The US Topo software (100,000:1) will set you back $81 from amazon.com and finally the North America City Navigator on DVD will set you back a further $108 also from amazon. You will also need a micro SD card, the unit will recognize a 1GB card from personal experience and is reported to support a 2GB card. Figure on about $40 for a 1GB card, about twice that for 2GB. This unit (after a web firmware upgrade) will give full routing to street addresses and etc. The unit works well in the field for meteorite hunting after the firmware upgrade. Garmin have the best sensitivity in a full 12 channel parallel reciever and provide about 20+ hours of operation from 2 AA batts. The unit can use rechargable NiMH AAs as well. For map charting of finds, I use the National Geographic Topo! software. It is about $90 per state from amazon. This Topo! map data is not able to run in the GPS, but will accept downloaded waypoints from the GPS to allow plotting. The Topo! software goes down to 24,000:1 and uses the data from the USGS database. Best Regards, Pat like the book says, it's a scientific lifestyle --- Mike Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone I am looking for a map program to use for plotting meteorite finds. I would like to have it on a CD so when I am in my vehicle and do not have an Internet connection, I can still use the maps to plot finds on my lap top. Of course I want as much detail as I can get. I also need a new GPS as I lost mine on a recent hunting trip (lost some good info) I like the new turn by turn directions they have for the cars and I was wondering if you can get all that in a hand held unit? Thanks for your time and suggestions. -- Mike Miller Po Box 314 Gerber Ca 96035 www.meteoritefinder.com 530-384-1598 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites On Display At Aerospace Education Center in Arkansas
Hello Ron,and List, I wanted to thank Ron for making the post to the List about the meteorite display that just went up this week here in Little Rock. I have to humbly admit that I am very excited about it finally happening. I think they have done an excellent job in presenting the specimens. The Aerospace Education Center houses a new state-of-the-art digital planetarium, and has an Apollo theme. The facility has as one of the main, centerpiece exhibits, a true-scale model of an Apollo Command Module that hangs from the ceiling. This provides the lunar meteorite specimen a particularly relevant fitting. The meteorites on display are on loan from the UALR University to which Jerry and I made the original donations. The University plans to place them on display in the future, but until then, they have graciously agreed to loan some of the specimens to the A.E.C. The specimens on exhibit represent some nice examples of the basic meteorite types, and portray the various degrees of weathering. All of them stem from the donations we made, as well as some examples that were acquired through trading with the intent to diversify the original specimens with different types, including a spectacularly beautiful 22Kg Sikhote-Alin. (Special thanks to Marvin Killgore, Robert Haag, and Mike Farmer for making these trades, etc.) I would also like to acknowledge the following people in their hard work and help in getting the meteorites on display: John O. Williams, the late planetarium director for UALR, fellow meteorite enthusiast(and finder), and good friend. Pam Shireman, who was the interim UALR planetarium director and caretaker of the meteorites for the last several years. Pam is now the Planetarium Director at the A.E.C. and has been of invaluable assistance in getting the meteorite display set up. Ken Quimby, director of the Aerospace Education Center. Dr.Tony Hall, Assistant Professor of Astronomy at UALR, for his help in getting the temporary loan to the A.E.C approved. I would invite any List member who may be passing through Little Rock for what-ever-reason ( probably not TOO many list members, huh ;-) to stop by and hopefully enjoy the show and the display. Sincerely, Robert Woolard --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=39507 Meteorites On Display At Aerospace Education Center Today's THV (Little Rock, Arkansas) January 3, 2007 Meteorite enthusiasts can now see an exhibit at the Aerospace Education Center in Little Rock of 18 pieces of the solar system that have fallen to Earth. The center is displaying meteorites that range in size from inches to more than 50 pounds as part of a new Impact Earth! Meteors from Space program. The space rocks are on a one-year loan from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock Physics and Astronomy Department. A piece of the moon, which fell to the Earth as a meteorite after the moon was hit by a comet or meteorite, was found in the Dhofur Desert in Oman and is on loan from Little Rock residents Robert Woolyard and Jerry Hinkle. If you need more information, call the center at (501) 376-4629 or click on the link on the right (http://www.aerospaced.org/). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent. 4.779 kilograms.
Oh Matteo, give me another hour, and I will post yet another piece, identical to yours (yes, it is more yellow/white) and broken off of the piece loaded on ebay. Matteo, you are admitting right now, that you have no paperwork, no classification, no data, and no CLUE! You just looked at the meteorite you loaded on eBay, and decided to lie to your eBay customers and called it an Aubrite. You are the problem with commercial meteorite dealers. You will lie, cheat, and just call them what you want, and it hurts those of us who wait for months or years for classifications on our stones. You hurt the buyers who get ripped off and decide that they no longer want to collect meteorites. And those of you who keep buying from Matteo, well, don't come on here later and cry that you weren't warned! Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately for you farmer is not my same material, I have been pieces of EL6/7 and its brown color, not white type thisa piece now its in analysis and we see Matteo - Original Message - Well, it took a while, since I got caught up doing too many other things today. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 Here is the EL6/7 meteorite I promised to load on ebay. It is smaller than I thought (it had been in a box since the Munich show) so I forgot how much it weighed. Either way, it is 283 times the size of Matteo's piece, and 680 times CHEAPER! And it is correctly identified, no guesswork, no lopping an end off and classifiying it myself like Matteo does. So let the fun, and BIDDING begin. Go to www.meteoritestudies.com for a more in-depth update on the classification saga of these fossil meteorites from Algeria. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
My god, Dont You think that this thread is insane ? Just ignore him Mike. His specimen, his problem. If someone will buy Matteo aubrite it is HIS problem. If he will buy it 10 times more expensive this is thread beetween seller and buyer. If someone belive that Matteo is honest and this is aubrite then super. I will not buy it becouse I dont want and I have enough the same material. Also 1 or 2 years ago was there big fight under thread that My meteorites are better than Yours where some dealers say that pairing from photos is not proffesional and wrong and we cant do that to use someone else numbers under possible paired. So lets leave this thread. You know it is EL3, I think its EL3, Matteo know it is Aubrite, Mohamed from Morocco know it is his new 4x4 LandRover and George Bush know it is new Lunar and everyone is happy and noone change his own opinion even if we will send there 1000 new emails with 10 000 proofs about why aubrite is EL3. e And tooday I have my 30th birthday :) so make me gift and stop this crap. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Oh Matteo, give me another hour, and I will post yet another piece, identical to yours (yes, it is more yellow/white) and broken off of the piece loaded on ebay. Matteo, you are admitting right now, that you have no paperwork, no classification, no data, and no CLUE! You just looked at the meteorite you loaded on eBay, and decided to lie to your eBay customers and called it an Aubrite. You are the problem with commercial meteorite dealers. You will lie, cheat, and just call them what you want, and it hurts those of us who wait for months or years for classifications on our stones. You hurt the buyers who get ripped off and decide that they no longer want to collect meteorites. And those of you who keep buying from Matteo, well, don't come on here later and cry that you weren't warned! Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately for you farmer is not my same material, I have been pieces of EL6/7 and its brown color, not white type thisa piece now its in analysis and we see Matteo - Original Message - Well, it took a while, since I got caught up doing too many other things today. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 Here is the EL6/7 meteorite I promised to load on ebay. It is smaller than I thought (it had been in a box since the Munich show) so I forgot how much it weighed. Either way, it is 283 times the size of Matteo's piece, and 680 times CHEAPER! And it is correctly identified, no guesswork, no lopping an end off and classifiying it myself like Matteo does. So let the fun, and BIDDING begin. Go to www.meteoritestudies.com for a more in-depth update on the classification saga of these fossil meteorites from Algeria. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Seeking IMCS Sponsors
Hello List, Though I am not a dealer in meteorites, as a private collector I wish to join the International Meteorite Collectors Association. In filling in the form at the IMCA website I came to a field which requires two existing IMCA members as 'sponsors' who would give me their recommendation for membership. Without these I cannot join. If anyone would consent to such a recommendation please email me privately. Here is a link that will include the Subject for you; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer --- PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My god, Dont You think that this thread is insane ? Just ignore him Mike. His specimen, his problem. If someone will buy Matteo aubrite it is HIS problem. If he will buy it 10 times more expensive this is thread beetween seller and buyer. If someone belive that Matteo is honest and this is aubrite then super. I will not buy it becouse I dont want and I have enough the same material. Also 1 or 2 years ago was there big fight under thread that My meteorites are better than Yours where some dealers say that pairing from photos is not proffesional and wrong and we cant do that to use someone else numbers under possible paired. So lets leave this thread. You know it is EL3, I think its EL3, Matteo know it is Aubrite, Mohamed from Morocco know it is his new 4x4 LandRover and George Bush know it is new Lunar and everyone is happy and noone change his own opinion even if we will send there 1000 new emails with 10 000 proofs about why aubrite is EL3. e And tooday I have my 30th birthday :) so make me gift and stop this crap. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Oh Matteo, give me another hour, and I will post yet another piece, identical to yours (yes, it is more yellow/white) and broken off of the piece loaded on ebay. Matteo, you are admitting right now, that you have no paperwork, no classification, no data, and no CLUE! You just looked at the meteorite you loaded on eBay, and decided to lie to your eBay customers and called it an Aubrite. You are the problem with commercial meteorite dealers. You will lie, cheat, and just call them what you want, and it hurts those of us who wait for months or years for classifications on our stones. You hurt the buyers who get ripped off and decide that they no longer want to collect meteorites. And those of you who keep buying from Matteo, well, don't come on here later and cry that you weren't warned! Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately for you farmer is not my same material, I have been pieces of EL6/7 and its brown color, not white type thisa piece now its in analysis and we see Matteo - Original Message - Well, it took a while, since I got caught up doing too many other things today. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 Here is the EL6/7 meteorite I promised to load on ebay. It is smaller than I thought (it had been in a box since the Munich show) so I forgot how much it weighed. Either way, it is 283 times the size of Matteo's piece, and 680 times CHEAPER! And it is correctly identified, no guesswork, no lopping an end off and classifiying it myself like Matteo does. So let the fun, and BIDDING begin. Go to www.meteoritestudies.com for a more in-depth update on the classification saga of these fossil meteorites from Algeria. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oops - a Typo. I know it is IMCA
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[meteorite-list] AD - Wholesale Lots and Others...
Dear List Members, First, I hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season. I would like to start the new year by offering many 2-kilo Lots of Unclassified Saharan meteorites and 1-kilo Lots of NWA 869 material, along with some other NWA 869 individuals. If you are selling at the Tucson Show and are looking for this type of material, these may be for you and if you want larger quantities, send me a private email and perhaps we can work something out. To see these and all that I currently have on eBay, search for items by seller, NaturesVault. I hope to be back in full swing by next week so keep your eyes on my auctions as I will be introducing new and rare material soon. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Metal Object Crashes Through New Jersey Home
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120AP_Fallen_Object.html Metal object crashes through N.J. home By CHRIS NEWMARKER ASSOCIATED PRESS January 3, 2007 [photo] A metal, rock-like object about the size of a golf ball is seen in this undated photograph provided by Det. R. Gelber of Freehold Township Police Department in Freehold Township, N.J., Wednesday, Jan. 3, 2007. Nobody was injured when the oblong object, weighing more than 13 ounces, crashed into the a Monmouth County home Tuesday night. Federal officials sent to the scene said it was not from an aircraft. (AP Photo/ Det. R. Gelber of Freehold township Police Department ) FREEHOLD TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- A metal, rock-like object about the size of a golf ball and weighing nearly as much as a can of soup crashed through the roof of a Monmouth County home, and authorities on Wednesday were trying to figure out what it was. Nobody was injured when the oblong object, weighing more than 13 ounces, crashed into the home and embedded itself in a wall Tuesday night. Federal officials sent to the scene said it was not from an aircraft. The rough-feeling object, with a metallic glint, was displayed Wednesday by police. There's some great interest in what we have here, said Lt. Robert Brightman. It's rather unusual. I haven't seen anything like it in my career. He said he hoped to have the object identified within 72 hours, but declined to name the other agencies whose help he said he had enlisted. Police received a call Wednesday morning that the metal object had punched a hole in the roof of a single-family, two-story home, damaged tiles on a bathroom floor below and then bounced, sticking into a wall. The object was heavier than a usual metal object of that size, said Brightman, who added that no radioactivity was detected. Brightman would not disclose the address of the house or the names of the people who lived there, citing the family's desire to not talk to the media. He would only say that the couple and their adult son live in a township housing development. Brightman said one man who lives at the home found the object at about 9 p.m. Tuesday after returning from work and hearing from his mother that something had crashed through the roof a few hours before. The Federal Aviation Administration, which sent investigators to the town, did not know where the object came from, said spokeswoman Arlene Murray. It's definitely not an aircraft part, she said. I can't speak beyond that as to what it might be. Approximately 20 to 50 rock-like objects fall every day over the entire planet, said Carlton Pryor, a professor of astronomy at Rutgers University. It's not all that uncommon to have rocks rain down from heaven, said Pryor, who had not seen the object that struck the Monmouth County home. These are usually rocky or a mixture of rock and metal. Pryor said laboratory tests would have to be conducted to determine if the object were a meteorite. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer I understand Your rights, but You can make alive this war for next 12 months. Now is EL3, Tomorrow will be L6 and on Monday something else. This become boring. For myself. And not only for me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Metal Object Crashes Through New Jersey Home
Hi, The Monmouth object doesn't look strikingly like an iron meteorite, but you can't rule it completely based on looks. Thankfully, they provide a scale, so a rough estimate of volume can be made. The weight is given as 13 ounces, or about 370 grams. Roughing up the volume on a cylinder of the diameter and length of the object shown, I get a density between 7 gm/cm^3 and 8 gm/cm^3, so it's likely iron. Whether it's extraterrestrial iron is another matter... But we can rule out an old lead sash weight, or a melted bronze bushing. Why do these dodoes always check sky-fallen objects for radioactivity? When was the last time a radioactive chunk of sky fell on them? (I assuming they didn't live in Canada when the Russian Cosmos reactor came down.) If there was a rain of toads, would they check them for radioactivity? If there was a rain of rain, would they check it for radioactivity? I wonder when and how the urban myth of checking meteorites for radioactivity got started? Call the cops! And tell'em to bring a geiger counter! Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 6:18 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Metal Object Crashes Through New Jersey Home http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120AP_Fallen_Object.html Metal object crashes through N.J. home By CHRIS NEWMARKER ASSOCIATED PRESS January 3, 2007 [photo] A metal, rock-like object about the size of a golf ball is seen in this undated photograph provided by Det. R. Gelber of Freehold Township Police Department in Freehold Township, N.J., Wednesday, Jan. 3, 2007. Nobody was injured when the oblong object, weighing more than 13 ounces, crashed into the a Monmouth County home Tuesday night. Federal officials sent to the scene said it was not from an aircraft. (AP Photo/ Det. R. Gelber of Freehold township Police Department ) FREEHOLD TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- A metal, rock-like object about the size of a golf ball and weighing nearly as much as a can of soup crashed through the roof of a Monmouth County home, and authorities on Wednesday were trying to figure out what it was. Nobody was injured when the oblong object, weighing more than 13 ounces, crashed into the home and embedded itself in a wall Tuesday night. Federal officials sent to the scene said it was not from an aircraft. The rough-feeling object, with a metallic glint, was displayed Wednesday by police. There's some great interest in what we have here, said Lt. Robert Brightman. It's rather unusual. I haven't seen anything like it in my career. He said he hoped to have the object identified within 72 hours, but declined to name the other agencies whose help he said he had enlisted. Police received a call Wednesday morning that the metal object had punched a hole in the roof of a single-family, two-story home, damaged tiles on a bathroom floor below and then bounced, sticking into a wall. The object was heavier than a usual metal object of that size, said Brightman, who added that no radioactivity was detected. Brightman would not disclose the address of the house or the names of the people who lived there, citing the family's desire to not talk to the media. He would only say that the couple and their adult son live in a township housing development. Brightman said one man who lives at the home found the object at about 9 p.m. Tuesday after returning from work and hearing from his mother that something had crashed through the roof a few hours before. The Federal Aviation Administration, which sent investigators to the town, did not know where the object came from, said spokeswoman Arlene Murray. It's definitely not an aircraft part, she said. I can't speak beyond that as to what it might be. Approximately 20 to 50 rock-like objects fall every day over the entire planet, said Carlton Pryor, a professor of astronomy at Rutgers University. It's not all that uncommon to have rocks rain down from heaven, said Pryor, who had not seen the object that struck the Monmouth County home. These are usually rocky or a mixture of rock and metal. Pryor said laboratory tests would have to be conducted to determine if the object were a meteorite. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
Here is a close-up of the New Jersey object: http://themeteoritesite.com/Jersey.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wired Science Meteorite Segment
Just finished watching the new PBS-Wired Science Segment on Steve#1 and Geoff N. about meteorites and The Brenham finds. Very enjoyable and nice to see Steve in action. Good comments on meteorites in general. Could help to booster our hobby. But, in the segment the journalist went out with Steve and Geoff and found a 50+ lb. stone in what looks like 5 minuites of work. Fess up guys, was this iron planted? If it was, it really does not detract from a great news article and the new find helps to give the segment more pizzaz! Kudos to Steve and Geoff, tett __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
The message bounced so am reposting. Dear Marcin, Mike, Matteo and List, Science and this hobby relies upon honesty and authenticity ( and repeatable science), and this topic is very important. This does NOT have to concern Matteo only, personally; it should concern all of us. I call Matteo to provide some evidence that the meteorite has been classified IF he is selling it as an Aubrite or as something else. Mike`s material does not necessarily apply because it IS from the same material as NWA 2965 (provisional); it has a pedigree. Matteo`s material`s pedigree is questionable and the material visually looks the same as NWA 2965 (It may be or it MAY be an Aubrite as Matteo`s data??? supports. Matteo would you provide some evidence that there is analysis AND why you have no provisional number IF it is classified? You seem to be sidestepping the DATA issue. When you provide your data Matteo I will then remain quiet and apologize IF needed. Thank you. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer I understand Your rights, but You can make alive this war for next 12 months. Now is EL3, Tomorrow will be L6 and on Monday something else. This become boring. For myself. And not only for me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
Thanks for the better picture Adam. From the random abrasions and percussion pits, it looks like a fragment from some heavy equipment part that self destructed, then got run over for a few months on a hard surface. How it came to fall out of the sky is a mystery though. Maybe it got stuck in the tire tread of an airplane--- Cheers/Happy new orbit to all Norm --- Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a close-up of the New Jersey object: http://themeteoritesite.com/Jersey.jpg Best Regards, Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Previous Tucson Show Reports
There is no better place to meet fellow meteorite collectors then the Tucson Show(s). There still in plenty of time to make plans to attend so I suggust doing such. The last 2-3 years there have been rooms available to those that arrived with previous plans so I imagine that will be true this year as well. To tempt some of you I have linked my reports of the previous four shows below. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/tucson2003.html http://www.meteoritearticles.com/tucson2004.html http://www.meteoritearticles.com/tucson2005.html http://www.meteoritearticles.com/tucson2006a.html Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com www.imca.cc www.kansasmeteorites.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Meteorite Segment
On Jan 3, 2007, at 7:00 PM, tett wrote: Fess up guys, was this iron planted? If it was, it really does not detract from a great news article and the new find helps to give the segment more pizzaz! Dear Tett: Thanks for the enthusiastic comments. Funny you should ask about the iron being planted, because the host asked us the same thing! No, we did not plant it. What they don't show are the hours and days Steve spent on his own hunting for a good signal. Before shooting started Steve had marked some underground targets with little surface flags to save time while the crew was on location (but left the targets buried and untouched). When we finally got the film crew out into the field, all the flags had gone. They may have been scooped up by a tractor -- it is a working farm after all. So, Steve had to start over and go find the targets from scratch. Just ask him how long it took to find those targets : ) As you can imagine, Steve has a pretty good ear and we both felt this one might be a real iron, and it was. What they also don't show you are the next 19 (?) targets Steve dug up over the next few digs, none of which were meteorites. The way the show is edited does make it look pretty easy. We were only supposed to have a seven-minute segment, and they expanded it to eleven, so I guess we actually got more airtime than planned, so I'm not complaining. I put together a Making-of feature about the show, and that goes into a little more detail. I hope you enjoy it: http://www.aerolite.org/wired-science.htm Thanks for watching. Sincerely, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org Official supplier of Steve Arnold Brenham meteorites http://www.aerolite.org/brenham.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Meteorite Segment
Geoff, Very exciting that the find turned out to be a Brenham piece! You must have been thrilled to see this captured by the film crew. Thanks for your update. Cheers, tett - Original Message - From: Notkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Meteorite Segment On Jan 3, 2007, at 7:00 PM, tett wrote: Fess up guys, was this iron planted? If it was, it really does not detract from a great news article and the new find helps to give the segment more pizzaz! Dear Tett: Thanks for the enthusiastic comments. Funny you should ask about the iron being planted, because the host asked us the same thing! No, we did not plant it. What they don't show are the hours and days Steve spent on his own hunting for a good signal. Before shooting started Steve had marked some underground targets with little surface flags to save time while the crew was on location (but left the targets buried and untouched). When we finally got the film crew out into the field, all the flags had gone. They may have been scooped up by a tractor -- it is a working farm after all. So, Steve had to start over and go find the targets from scratch. Just ask him how long it took to find those targets : ) As you can imagine, Steve has a pretty good ear and we both felt this one might be a real iron, and it was. What they also don't show you are the next 19 (?) targets Steve dug up over the next few digs, none of which were meteorites. The way the show is edited does make it look pretty easy. We were only supposed to have a seven-minute segment, and they expanded it to eleven, so I guess we actually got more airtime than planned, so I'm not complaining. I put together a Making-of feature about the show, and that goes into a little more detail. I hope you enjoy it: http://www.aerolite.org/wired-science.htm Thanks for watching. Sincerely, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org Official supplier of Steve Arnold Brenham meteorites http://www.aerolite.org/brenham.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wired Science Replay
Hi list, For those of you who missed the show (like me) - or for those outside of the USA who cannot receive our Public TV, you can see the entire episode that aired tonight with the Meteorite Hunting Exploits of Steve and Geoff!!! Here is a link to PBS KCET where you can find a link to view this Pilot episode in its entirety. Enjoy!!! Ed http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/pilot.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Close-up New Jersey Object
or... it could be a spent fuel-rod from a Beamship (UFO). Or a neighbor flinging garbage from a Trebuchet-catapult. Just Kidding, who knows why so many strange objects are reported as coming from the sky? Adam __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Replay
Thanks for that link Ed. I missed the show too. Now its time to click my heels three times and say over and over, 'There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home'. :) Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 3 Jan 2007 at 22:06, Ed Deckert wrote: Hi list, For those of you who missed the show (like me) - or for those outside of the USA who cannot receive our Public TV, you can see the entire episode that aired tonight with the Meteorite Hunting Exploits of Steve and Geoff!!! Here is a link to PBS KCET where you can find a link to view this Pilot episode in its entirety. Enjoy!!! Ed http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/pilot.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
Dear Marcin, Mike, Matteo and List, Science and this hobby relies upon honesty and authenticity ( and repeatable science), and this topic is very important. This does NOT have to concern Matteo only, personally; it should concern all of us. I call Matteo to provide some evidence that the meteorite has been classified IF he is selling it as an Aubrite or as something else. Mike`s material does not necessarily apply because it IS from the same material as NWA 2965 (provisional); it has a pedigree. Matteo`s material`s pedigree is questionable and the material visually looks the same as NWA 2965 (It may be or it MAY be an Aubrite as Matteo`s data??? supports. Matteo would you provide some evidence that there is analysis AND why you have no provisional number IF it is classified? You seem to be sidestepping the DATA issue. When you provide your data Matteo I will then remain quiet and apologize IF needed. Thank you. Sincerely, Dirk Ross...Tokyo PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer I understand Your rights, but You can make alive this war for next 12 months. Now is EL3, Tomorrow will be L6 and on Monday something else. This become boring. For myself. And not only for me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
Dear Listees; I would like to comment that back in the dark days of meteorites a number of years ago, WE discussed issues for seemingly ages (1998-2001?) and then WE invented the IMCA to protect the world from fraudulent meteorite dealersthen, a weak IMCA booted out Matteo for being less than honorable back then. Years later...(now).an even weaker IMCA can do nothing about Matteo and others that are not members..and new list members whine about the banter.such is the history that lives on in our time. And, due to a bunch of this non binding, non back bonemore banter is welcomed if we are to keep honesty to a premium I would think. Leopards and spots comes to mind. I have recently given up on IMCA. I am in good company on this side of the fence as well. When the Organization can do little, it should be up to the individuals to raise the red flags, even if it bothers some individuals delete finger. Fraud is fraud, it hurts the meteorite market in general..geeze didn't this topic come up a thousand times in the past eight or nine years?? Mike is right to stir the pot, if private individuals don't get the word out, who will, the IMCA? Surely not our honest friends at eBay either. Should IMCA go to ebay with reasonable proof, and censure Matteo's activities? Depends on the lawyers opinion and what you think you pay your dues for I suppose. Mean time, it ain't gunna happen.. Dave F. IMCA # 0 from the beginning. PolandMET wrote: Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer I understand Your rights, but You can make alive this war for next 12 months. Now is EL3, Tomorrow will be L6 and on Monday something else. This become boring. For myself. And not only for me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Red Fireball in Florida Likely A Meteor
A red fireball streaked across the sky from west to east just above the tree line. Look up! Look up! they shouted. It only took seconds for Kinney to run into the yard, but the fireball was already dropping out of sight over the horizon. I get the impression that this was an earthgrazing meteor. I couldn't say if it belonged to any particular shower or just a sporadic. George Zay __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dave Shiflett-- no fan of the brenham
Dave and all, No, the big rock did not sell yet. And I am pretty sure the TV show that the story is supposed to be quoting did not state that it sold for a million dollars, only that it is worth about a million dollars. I just think the reporter got his facts wrong. Imagine that, a reporter getting their facts wrong. I did count 3 errors in the Travel Channel show. There are a couple errors in the Wired Magazine article. And I think the Wired Science TV show got it pretty close, although I would argue the finer details of some of the points in the show. I am not even sure if any one of the many newspaper stories this last 15 months has got it 100% correct. Newsweek had a ONE LINE quote in their Nov. 21, 2005 issue on the big Brenham Kansas find, and you would think that they could at least get that right, right? Well, they got the one quote from me correct, but then they credited the quote to: Professional meteorite hunter Steve Arnold, on his 1,400-pound find in Arkansas... OK, I guess an argument in their defense could be made that Kansas can be found inside the word Arkansas so they didn't get it all that wrong. Reporters have a funny phobia of actually letting people they interview proof read their stories. So virtually every story ever printed or broadcasted in every article or program gets some of their facts wrong. And what you ask are these reporter's editors doing? I don't know, I ask the same question. Steve Arnold, P.M.H. *** In a message dated 1/2/2007 10:56:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: It won't bring as much as an earlier find: a 1,400-pound space rock that resembles a massive, slightly rotting yam. Ugly is only skin deep, however. This monstrosity sold for a cool million. So, I didn't know the rotten yam had sold, is that true? I like yams. Dave F. ** __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wired Science Replay
Hello All, For those not overly-adept at navigating throughout the web (or for you who are as lazy right now as I usually feel), here's the link. http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/player-wired-pilot.html Regards, Jason On 1/3/07, Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that link Ed. I missed the show too. Now its time to click my heels three times and say over and over, 'There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home'. :) Gary Foote http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 3 Jan 2007 at 22:06, Ed Deckert wrote: Hi list, For those of you who missed the show (like me) - or for those outside of the USA who cannot receive our Public TV, you can see the entire episode that aired tonight with the Meteorite Hunting Exploits of Steve and Geoff!!! Here is a link to PBS KCET where you can find a link to view this Pilot episode in its entirety. Enjoy!!! Ed http://www.pbs.org/kcet/wiredscience/pilot.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent. 4.779 kilograms.
unfortunately for you farmer is not my same material, I have been pieces of EL6/7 and its brown color, not white type thisa piece now its in analysis and we see Matteo - Original Message - Well, it took a while, since I got caught up doing too many other things today. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 Here is the EL6/7 meteorite I promised to load on ebay. It is smaller than I thought (it had been in a box since the Munich show) so I forgot how much it weighed. Either way, it is 283 times the size of Matteo's piece, and 680 times CHEAPER! And it is correctly identified, no guesswork, no lopping an end off and classifiying it myself like Matteo does. So let the fun, and BIDDING begin. Go to www.meteoritestudies.com for a more in-depth update on the classification saga of these fossil meteorites from Algeria. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Probably Mr.Farmer have to buy a pair of glasses
In the famous auction he say: This is a large fragment of the NWA 2965 meteorite from Algeria. It weighs 4,771 grams. This is a piece of the massive meteorite that has been classified under various NWA numbers and types, from an Aubrite, to EL3, to EL 6/7. well, I am go in the D.Weir site to look this famous NWA 2965, and the photos show its the same of my NWA 4416, this http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5819/nwa44165ow.jpg and at the end of the page is show another same meteorite I have buy from Phillipe Thomas, this http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2600/nwa4420sg0.jpg confirmed 100% Primitive Aubrite and its the same material I have here, this http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/9620/aubritegr1685sc7.jpg now Farmer, you seen the difference or you have to buy a pair of glasses? Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilogr...
Hi all, This is Tom Phillips (New to the list). I'm the guy that takes the meteorite micrographs for a hobby. I have nearly 100 kilo of this EL3/EL6/7/Aubrite and I couldn't help notice the controversy. It's hard to change quick when other pairings are still being called something else. I have sent samples to Ted Bunch (not self paired) of both color types and my understanding, at the moment is, all the material, brown and blue/gray is from the same find. The different color types have just undergone differences in terrestrialization. Just as a note: random lots of this material came to me in an approximate 90% brown, 10% blue/gray. This ratio may hold true but I have been told that the early shipments were mostly brown because (at first) it was collected on the surface (Mostly!). Now that it is being dug up, the % of blue/gray collected, MAY go up. I'm in no was an expert, this is just my current understanding. Can I post micrographs to the list?Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms.
Dear Dave and Listees, Thank you Dave. Very well said! At least some of us DO give a damn about authenticity, integrity, and honesty and are not afraid to speak out. Best, Dirk...Tokyo --- Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Listees; I would like to comment that back in the dark days of meteorites a number of years ago, WE discussed issues for seemingly ages (1998-2001?) and then WE invented the IMCA to protect the world from fraudulent meteorite dealersthen, a weak IMCA booted out Matteo for being less than honorable back then. Years later...(now).an even weaker IMCA can do nothing about Matteo and others that are not members..and new list members whine about the banter.such is the history that lives on in our time. And, due to a bunch of this non binding, non back bonemore banter is welcomed if we are to keep honesty to a premium I would think. Leopards and spots comes to mind. I have recently given up on IMCA. I am in good company on this side of the fence as well. When the Organization can do little, it should be up to the individuals to raise the red flags, even if it bothers some individuals delete finger. Fraud is fraud, it hurts the meteorite market in general..geeze didn't this topic come up a thousand times in the past eight or nine years?? Mike is right to stir the pot, if private individuals don't get the word out, who will, the IMCA? Surely not our honest friends at eBay either. Should IMCA go to ebay with reasonable proof, and censure Matteo's activities? Depends on the lawyers opinion and what you think you pay your dues for I suppose. Mean time, it ain't gunna happen.. Dave F. IMCA # 0 from the beginning. PolandMET wrote: Thanks for your input Marcin, but no thanks, Matteo has pulled another scam, Dirk pointed it out, and I am calling him on it. I can not believe that you would stand there and say that you would ignore a dealer selling false material. I will protect my buyers and my business (the meteorite business) by calling out a fake when I see it! Next time you get into a spat with someone, I will be there to tell you to shut up, so don't worry. Michael Farmer I understand Your rights, but You can make alive this war for next 12 months. Now is EL3, Tomorrow will be L6 and on Monday something else. This become boring. For myself. And not only for me. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Monthly Favourite - January 2007
http://www.meteorites.com.au/favourite.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken Meteorites Australia www.meteorites.com.au __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for onecent.4.779 kilograms.
Marcin and List, Marcin wrote: If someone will buy Matteo aubrite it is HIS problem. If he will buy it 10 times more expensive this is thread beetween seller and buyer. I sincerely doubt you speak for very many members on this List, and seeing that you have an IMCA number I'm a little surprised one of its members would have such a lack of concern to the meat of this thread! I'm sure any collector, professional or amateur, appreciates the watchdogs of the List keeping the profession and hobby honest, whether it be bantering with each other or pointing out the fraud glass and terrestrial rocks scamming us on EBay. Otherwise, I've got a bunch of unclassifieds that look just like pictures of enstatite meteorites which can make me some extra money, so I can buy more of the classified stuff from the scrupulous dealers ... like Mike and many others on this List. Cheers, Pete From: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: PolandMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for onecent.4.779 kilograms. Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 23:53:21 +0100 My god, Dont You think that this thread is insane ? Just ignore him Mike. His specimen, his problem. If someone will buy Matteo aubrite it is HIS problem. If he will buy it 10 times more expensive this is thread beetween seller and buyer. If someone belive that Matteo is honest and this is aubrite then super. I will not buy it becouse I dont want and I have enough the same material. Also 1 or 2 years ago was there big fight under thread that My meteorites are better than Yours where some dealers say that pairing from photos is not proffesional and wrong and we cant do that to use someone else numbers under possible paired. So lets leave this thread. You know it is EL3, I think its EL3, Matteo know it is Aubrite, Mohamed from Morocco know it is his new 4x4 LandRover and George Bush know it is new Lunar and everyone is happy and noone change his own opinion even if we will send there 1000 new emails with 10 000 proofs about why aubrite is EL3. e And tooday I have my 30th birthday :) so make me gift and stop this crap. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 10:38 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Oh Matteo, give me another hour, and I will post yet another piece, identical to yours (yes, it is more yellow/white) and broken off of the piece loaded on ebay. Matteo, you are admitting right now, that you have no paperwork, no classification, no data, and no CLUE! You just looked at the meteorite you loaded on eBay, and decided to lie to your eBay customers and called it an Aubrite. You are the problem with commercial meteorite dealers. You will lie, cheat, and just call them what you want, and it hurts those of us who wait for months or years for classifications on our stones. You hurt the buyers who get ripped off and decide that they no longer want to collect meteorites. And those of you who keep buying from Matteo, well, don't come on here later and cry that you weren't warned! Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately for you farmer is not my same material, I have been pieces of EL6/7 and its brown color, not white type thisa piece now its in analysis and we see Matteo - Original Message - Well, it took a while, since I got caught up doing too many other things today. http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170066829936 Here is the EL6/7 meteorite I promised to load on ebay. It is smaller than I thought (it had been in a box since the Munich show) so I forgot how much it weighed. Either way, it is 283 times the size of Matteo's piece, and 680 times CHEAPER! And it is correctly identified, no guesswork, no lopping an end off and classifiying it myself like Matteo does. So let the fun, and BIDDING begin. Go to www.meteoritestudies.com for a more in-depth update on the classification saga of these fossil meteorites from Algeria. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site:
Re: [meteorite-list] Dave Shiflett-- no fan of the brenham
Hi, As to what is on the minds of the hairdo's, er, I mean, the reporters, that's anybody's guess. Maybe a hint can be found in the little blurb on the KCET video site, where this segment is described: Adam Rogers finds a meteorite in Kansas. Is that the best description of the news story? Say, didn't that Arnold guy actually find those meteorites? Details, mere details... Where were those headlines in the 1940's that read: Edward R. Murrow finds Luftwaffe in Skies over London? Or Walter Cronkite Finds War in Vietnam? The story is supposed to be about the story, fellah. Editors? What editors? TV has only producers, not editors. Kudos to Steve and Geoff for their successful ju-jitsu in getting as much of the reality into the piece as they did. It's a performance skill, and they performed the job very well. Encore, encore. Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Dave Shiflett-- no fan of the brenham Dave and all, No, the big rock did not sell yet. And I am pretty sure the TV show that the story is supposed to be quoting did not state that it sold for a million dollars, only that it is worth about a million dollars. I just think the reporter got his facts wrong. Imagine that, a reporter getting their facts wrong. I did count 3 errors in the Travel Channel show. There are a couple errors in the Wired Magazine article. And I think the Wired Science TV show got it pretty close, although I would argue the finer details of some of the points in the show. I am not even sure if any one of the many newspaper stories this last 15 months has got it 100% correct. Newsweek had a ONE LINE quote in their Nov. 21, 2005 issue on the big Brenham Kansas find, and you would think that they could at least get that right, right? Well, they got the one quote from me correct, but then they credited the quote to: Professional meteorite hunter Steve Arnold, on his 1,400-pound find in Arkansas... OK, I guess an argument in their defense could be made that Kansas can be found inside the word Arkansas so they didn't get it all that wrong. Reporters have a funny phobia of actually letting people they interview proof read their stories. So virtually every story ever printed or broadcasted in every article or program gets some of their facts wrong. And what you ask are these reporter's editors doing? I don't know, I ask the same question. Steve Arnold, P.M.H. *** In a message dated 1/2/2007 10:56:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: It won't bring as much as an earlier find: a 1,400-pound space rock that resembles a massive, slightly rotting yam. Ugly is only skin deep, however. This monstrosity sold for a cool million. So, I didn't know the rotten yam had sold, is that true? I like yams. Dave F. ** __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
