[meteorite-list] Metal part crashes through roof
This wasn't a meteorite but was a very close call. http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=localid=4929895 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies
Well Done, Stephan, great pictures! Cheers, Frederic - Original Message - From: Stephan Kambach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] inclusions, brecciations, lithologies Hello Members of the list As I didn't want to build up a webside, so three days ago I decided to open up a photoalbum for meteorites. The intention was actually to show some inclusions, lithologies, brecciations , I think you might not have seen before. Thats the beginning: for ex. the ALSP1 Allende , a single translucent red relict chromium-spinel crystal, the biggest ever found in a meteorite; a 8 mm sized chondrule in a CR2, - a giant chondrule in a full slice of Maralinga.- it's bigger as the literature describe; three lithologies in one slice of a lunaite, a main mass of a diogenite (Dho 778) with a fantastic brecciation; a bundle of aquamarine-blue hibonites in NWA 1465 and in the same a dark inclusion with an total other O-Isotopie as the host; a huge troilite in Ensisheim. There is a small description to the albums, because of less space due the provider. I added also further exemplares of my collection, but still yet not much described. It could be possible that you can not see the small picture from where you can click/open up to the size of 20x30 and also further more to a orginal size, because of a firewall that blocking popups or banners. Securtiy perhaps have to be reduced temporary. Hope you like it, regards from Germany, Stephan Kambach the link: http://freenetfoto.de/album/stephan.kambach/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pre-Tucson Portales V. Sale
Is anyone interested in a 40g part-slice of Portales Valley? ..thick metal veins and only 2mm thin; a brilliant specimen. First $850 takes it.. or $825 if paying by personal or cashiers check. Please contact me only if you are a serious potential buyer, please. Photo available. Thank You. Cheers, Ryan __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia
Hello Martin (and Matthias), the Eurochallenger quote wasn't from Brin's fictional novel about plundering Halley's Comet...rather it was a real quote, from a real American STS Challenger astronaut in January 1986, setting to do what no man had done before with Halley's Comet, the same year that book you mentioned was published and the Sir Halley's Comet Rendezvoused with NASA. He is STS Challenger Hero, Mission Specialist Lieutenant Colonel Ellison Shoji Onizuka. Lt. Col. Onuzuki, an American of Japanese extraction, hailed from Hawai'i. And before that sad fated space launch, he spoke the surrealistisch Quote, I will have two minutes on four different orbits to photograph Halley's comet in both the visible and UV spectrum... in the true where no man has gone before spirit, where science fiction met the reality of the space program...Given the upcoming black anniversary of the Challenger catastrophe, I though it an appropriate quote to contribute to the Crew's memory of what they set out to accomplish and how they dearly paid for their privilege to lead us. Matthias, I don't see no Francophiles have answered your challenge. Perhaps you refer to the somewhat perverted French author and criminal Genet? Watch your girl's diamonds:-) Bonne chance! And Martin, just to prove, I do heed your call to listen, Hear thy following ode to thee, for a fool's preferment, and sigh for the meteorite collector in all of us, to the Tune of the..Who?: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=50:ip7uakjkgm3l~Y I'll chase the moon 'till it be noon, But I'll make her leave her horning... ...The stars pluck from their orbs, too, And crowd them in my budget! And whether I'm a roaring boy, Let all the nations judge it. Best Health and Good Wishes, Doug PS, the quote you dedicated to me is well known in Mexico in reverse pretenses in many forms. Since these versions would be deemed offensive by many (though the historical English one is politically very incorrect too), I can give you an idea by rewriting it for the season: Though Sol be so bright, he shall ne'er bestow on Venus all his light, if his fright be her delight for taking flight, upon some heated hirsute star some night, to leave him her empty orbit tight, whisked years beyond his sight, consoling collections of frozen streams of tears; micrometeorites. - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia No idea, I've never read BrinBenford. Huh! My Doug, listen! She that would gain a faithful lover Must at a distance keep the slave; Not by a look her heart discover, Men should but guess the thoughts we have. Whilst they're in doubt their flame increases, And all attendance they will pay; When once confess'd their ardour ceases, And vows like smoke soon fly away. Then, fond Aurelia, cease complaining, All thy reproaches useless prove; Beauties may conquer whilst disdaining, But lose their value when they love. So when a comet does appear, Men do with trembling view the blaze; The sun too common none does fear, Nor on his beams with wonder gaze. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 10:00 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia Martin teased the R.O.W. about some obscure Jünger fellow and hove out a who said (with clairvoyance) to cater to a more American style of literature: ...came in with Halley's comet (1835) go out with it (1910) ... Jerry quipped: Mark Twain! As my Favorite Martin wonders how Mark Twain (Was he from Florida or Cairo?) honed his halleycious hillbilly humor...here's a quote from that lovable Clemens' creation Huck: (From The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: Huck relates his musings at night with Jim, an, an escaped slave in the antebellum U.S. South, while they lay on their backs pondering the origin of the myrid of stars visible (ROFL) from their raft floating down the Mississippi): Jim said the moon could'a laid them, well, that looked kind of reasonable, so I didn't say nothing against it, because I've seen a frog lay most as many, so of course, it could be done. We used to watch the stars that fell, too, and see them streak down. Jim allowed they'd got spoiled and was hove out of the nest. OK, enough on Mark Twain, Here's an encore Who Said? for the European contingent, as we comfortably sit back and watch the SOHO and STEREO images rolling in for Comet McNaught, after we've suffered meeting the precision timing viewing requirements in the northern hemisphere over recent days: I will have two minutes on four different orbits to photograph Halley's comet in both the visible and UV spectrum. The objective is get this data as the comet approaches perihelion, which is
Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia
Ground control to Major Doug: Genet, oui, c'est ca! Matthias - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Matthias Bärmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia Hello Martin (and Matthias), the Eurochallenger quote wasn't from Brin's fictional novel about plundering Halley's Comet...rather it was a real quote, from a real American STS Challenger astronaut in January 1986, setting to do what no man had done before with Halley's Comet, the same year that book you mentioned was published and the Sir Halley's Comet Rendezvoused with NASA. He is STS Challenger Hero, Mission Specialist Lieutenant Colonel Ellison Shoji Onizuka. Lt. Col. Onuzuki, an American of Japanese extraction, hailed from Hawai'i. And before that sad fated space launch, he spoke the surrealistisch Quote, I will have two minutes on four different orbits to photograph Halley's comet in both the visible and UV spectrum... in the true where no man has gone before spirit, where science fiction met the reality of the space program...Given the upcoming black anniversary of the Challenger catastrophe, I though it an appropriate quote to contribute to the Crew's memory of what they set out to accomplish and how they dearly paid for their privilege to lead us. Matthias, I don't see no Francophiles have answered your challenge. Perhaps you refer to the somewhat perverted French author and criminal Genet? Watch your girl's diamonds:-) Bonne chance! And Martin, just to prove, I do heed your call to listen, Hear thy following ode to thee, for a fool's preferment, and sigh for the meteorite collector in all of us, to the Tune of the..Who?: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgsql=50:ip7uakjkgm3l~Y I'll chase the moon 'till it be noon, But I'll make her leave her horning... ...The stars pluck from their orbs, too, And crowd them in my budget! And whether I'm a roaring boy, Let all the nations judge it. Best Health and Good Wishes, Doug PS, the quote you dedicated to me is well known in Mexico in reverse pretenses in many forms. Since these versions would be deemed offensive by many (though the historical English one is politically very incorrect too), I can give you an idea by rewriting it for the season: Though Sol be so bright, he shall ne'er bestow on Venus all his light, if his fright be her delight for taking flight, upon some heated hirsute star some night, to leave him her empty orbit tight, whisked years beyond his sight, consoling collections of frozen streams of tears; micrometeorites. - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia No idea, I've never read BrinBenford. Huh! My Doug, listen! She that would gain a faithful lover Must at a distance keep the slave; Not by a look her heart discover, Men should but guess the thoughts we have. Whilst they're in doubt their flame increases, And all attendance they will pay; When once confess'd their ardour ceases, And vows like smoke soon fly away. Then, fond Aurelia, cease complaining, All thy reproaches useless prove; Beauties may conquer whilst disdaining, But lose their value when they love. So when a comet does appear, Men do with trembling view the blaze; The sun too common none does fear, Nor on his beams with wonder gaze. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von MexicoDoug Gesendet: Freitag, 12. Januar 2007 10:00 An: Meteorite Mailing List Betreff: [meteorite-list] Mark Twain, a Eurochallenger, and Perihelia Martin teased the R.O.W. about some obscure Jünger fellow and hove out a who said (with clairvoyance) to cater to a more American style of literature: ...came in with Halley's comet (1835) go out with it (1910) ... Jerry quipped: Mark Twain! As my Favorite Martin wonders how Mark Twain (Was he from Florida or Cairo?) honed his halleycious hillbilly humor...here's a quote from that lovable Clemens' creation Huck: (From The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn: Huck relates his musings at night with Jim, an, an escaped slave in the antebellum U.S. South, while they lay on their backs pondering the origin of the myrid of stars visible (ROFL) from their raft floating down the Mississippi): Jim said the moon could'a laid them, well, that looked kind of reasonable, so I didn't say nothing against it, because I've seen a frog lay most as many, so of course, it could be done. We used to watch the stars that fell, too, and see them streak down. Jim allowed they'd got spoiled and was hove out of the nest. OK, enough on Mark
[meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Hello Greg, List, and Eucrite Buffs, I recently bought Greg's last piece of NWA 3159, a 10.7-gram individual. This is no.3 in my collection because there are already two breathtaking cut slices clearly showing the two distinct lithologies: 1. the black, shock-melted, vesicular areas 2. the normal brecciated eucritic areas I was wondering if I could also find the vesicular texture in an individual, and, I did find such areas. But, then, I held my breath when I also spotted a beautiful crystal aggregate of...maybe olivine or pyroxene under my micro- scope at 16x and 32x magnification! Yes, I know that olivine is not usually found in eucrites but it has been found in small amounts in NWA 011, in Macibini, in NWA 049, in NWA 1000, etc. I would like to invite those who have acquired such individuals from Greg and who can examine their pieces under high(er) magnifications to closely examine their specimens and maybe find such crystalline aggregates. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Mount Tazerzait and Baszkówka have taught us that such crystals can survive the meteorite's fiery descent through our atmosphere (if properly shielded). But these crystals in my NWA 3159 individual are not really within the meteorite's interior matrix but protrude from one of its vesicular cavities, in other words, they may have been exposed to the atmospheric forces *IF* they should be pre- terrestrial. Would do you think? Terrestrial or pre-terrestrial (= meteoritic)? And what are they? Quartz, pyroxene, olivine??? I will ask Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, or Gary (or, maybe, all of them ;-) to host the pictures I've taken so you can see what I am talking about. Best eucritic and crystalline wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Bernd, They are awesome photos. I urge everyone to take a look. They are full size images at the following URLs; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/NWA3159CRYSTALx16-01.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/NWA3159CRYSTALx32-01.jpg Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 13 Jan 2007 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Greg, List, and Eucrite Buffs, I recently bought Greg's last piece of NWA 3159, a 10.7-gram individual. This is no.3 in my collection because there are already two breathtaking cut slices clearly showing the two distinct lithologies: 1. the black, shock-melted, vesicular areas 2. the normal brecciated eucritic areas I was wondering if I could also find the vesicular texture in an individual, and, I did find such areas. But, then, I held my breath when I also spotted a beautiful crystal aggregate of...maybe olivine or pyroxene under my micro- scope at 16x and 32x magnification! Yes, I know that olivine is not usually found in eucrites but it has been found in small amounts in NWA 011, in Macibini, in NWA 049, in NWA 1000, etc. I would like to invite those who have acquired such individuals from Greg and who can examine their pieces under high(er) magnifications to closely examine their specimens and maybe find such crystalline aggregates. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Mount Tazerzait and Baszkówka have taught us that such crystals can survive the meteorite's fiery descent through our atmosphere (if properly shielded). But these crystals in my NWA 3159 individual are not really within the meteorite's interior matrix but protrude from one of its vesicular cavities, in other words, they may have been exposed to the atmospheric forces *IF* they should be pre- terrestrial. Would do you think? Terrestrial or pre-terrestrial (= meteoritic)? And what are they? Quartz, pyroxene, olivine??? I will ask Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, or Gary (or, maybe, all of them ;-) to host the pictures I've taken so you can see what I am talking about. Best eucritic and crystalline wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
There is now a page online with photos, Bernd's comments and links to the larger photos. The URL is; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nwa3159eucrite-bernd.html Gary On 13 Jan 2007 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Greg, List, and Eucrite Buffs, I recently bought Greg's last piece of NWA 3159, a 10.7-gram individual. This is no.3 in my collection because there are already two breathtaking cut slices clearly showing the two distinct lithologies: 1. the black, shock-melted, vesicular areas 2. the normal brecciated eucritic areas I was wondering if I could also find the vesicular texture in an individual, and, I did find such areas. But, then, I held my breath when I also spotted a beautiful crystal aggregate of...maybe olivine or pyroxene under my micro- scope at 16x and 32x magnification! Yes, I know that olivine is not usually found in eucrites but it has been found in small amounts in NWA 011, in Macibini, in NWA 049, in NWA 1000, etc. I would like to invite those who have acquired such individuals from Greg and who can examine their pieces under high(er) magnifications to closely examine their specimens and maybe find such crystalline aggregates. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Mount Tazerzait and Baszkówka have taught us that such crystals can survive the meteorite's fiery descent through our atmosphere (if properly shielded). But these crystals in my NWA 3159 individual are not really within the meteorite's interior matrix but protrude from one of its vesicular cavities, in other words, they may have been exposed to the atmospheric forces *IF* they should be pre- terrestrial. Would do you think? Terrestrial or pre-terrestrial (= meteoritic)? And what are they? Quartz, pyroxene, olivine??? I will ask Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, or Gary (or, maybe, all of them ;-) to host the pictures I've taken so you can see what I am talking about. Best eucritic and crystalline wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Gary, many thanks for the URL. Breathtaking photos indeed Bernd, I just cross my fingers the aggregate is not a simple sand grain embedded into the vesicle. I don't want to play the bird for the ill omen but this already happened to me...with some NWA, by definition found in (sandy) desert. Though in your case, the inclusion is really strange. Did you just try to touch it with some tiny tweezers or pin, just to see (under scope) whether it moves back and forth from its equilibrium position ? This sometimes (not always) happen with sand grains. A spot analysis of the gran would help. Though the whole sample is far too big for that doing. Detecting quartz would throw some doubt about the extra terrestrial origin of the aggregate. Bernd, knowing your care in examining all this closely, I am sure I am wroing with my simplistic speculations. Best wishes, Zelimir A 10:20 13/01/2007 -0500, Gary K. Foote a écrit : There is now a page online with photos, Bernd's comments and links to the larger photos. The URL is; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/nwa3159eucrite-bernd.html Gary On 13 Jan 2007 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Greg, List, and Eucrite Buffs, I recently bought Greg's last piece of NWA 3159, a 10.7-gram individual. This is no.3 in my collection because there are already two breathtaking cut slices clearly showing the two distinct lithologies: 1. the black, shock-melted, vesicular areas 2. the normal brecciated eucritic areas I was wondering if I could also find the vesicular texture in an individual, and, I did find such areas. But, then, I held my breath when I also spotted a beautiful crystal aggregate of...maybe olivine or pyroxene under my micro- scope at 16x and 32x magnification! Yes, I know that olivine is not usually found in eucrites but it has been found in small amounts in NWA 011, in Macibini, in NWA 049, in NWA 1000, etc. I would like to invite those who have acquired such individuals from Greg and who can examine their pieces under high(er) magnifications to closely examine their specimens and maybe find such crystalline aggregates. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Mount Tazerzait and Baszkówka have taught us that such crystals can survive the meteorite's fiery descent through our atmosphere (if properly shielded). But these crystals in my NWA 3159 individual are not really within the meteorite's interior matrix but protrude from one of its vesicular cavities, in other words, they may have been exposed to the atmospheric forces *IF* they should be pre- terrestrial. Would do you think? Terrestrial or pre-terrestrial (= meteoritic)? And what are they? Quartz, pyroxene, olivine??? I will ask Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, or Gary (or, maybe, all of them ;-) to host the pictures I've taken so you can see what I am talking about. Best eucritic and crystalline wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Hi Folks! I don't want to make something bad here, but to me it looks more like a quartz grain (desert sand grain)! The colour and shine are not olivine typical! I also don't think, that such a crystal will survive during a fall (will melt out) or during desert (sand) storms! Ingo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Gary K. Foote Gesendet: Samstag, 13. Januar 2007 15:45 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular,plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals? Bernd, They are awesome photos. I urge everyone to take a look. They are full size images at the following URLs; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/NWA3159CRYSTALx16-01.jpg http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/images/NWA3159CRYSTALx32-01.jpg Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com On 13 Jan 2007 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Greg, List, and Eucrite Buffs, I recently bought Greg's last piece of NWA 3159, a 10.7-gram individual. This is no.3 in my collection because there are already two breathtaking cut slices clearly showing the two distinct lithologies: 1. the black, shock-melted, vesicular areas 2. the normal brecciated eucritic areas I was wondering if I could also find the vesicular texture in an individual, and, I did find such areas. But, then, I held my breath when I also spotted a beautiful crystal aggregate of...maybe olivine or pyroxene under my micro- scope at 16x and 32x magnification! Yes, I know that olivine is not usually found in eucrites but it has been found in small amounts in NWA 011, in Macibini, in NWA 049, in NWA 1000, etc. I would like to invite those who have acquired such individuals from Greg and who can examine their pieces under high(er) magnifications to closely examine their specimens and maybe find such crystalline aggregates. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Mount Tazerzait and Baszkówka have taught us that such crystals can survive the meteorite's fiery descent through our atmosphere (if properly shielded). But these crystals in my NWA 3159 individual are not really within the meteorite's interior matrix but protrude from one of its vesicular cavities, in other words, they may have been exposed to the atmospheric forces *IF* they should be pre- terrestrial. Would do you think? Terrestrial or pre-terrestrial (= meteoritic)? And what are they? Quartz, pyroxene, olivine??? I will ask Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, or Gary (or, maybe, all of them ;-) to host the pictures I've taken so you can see what I am talking about. Best eucritic and crystalline wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] questions on tucson auction
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[meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Hi, My Mt. Taz definitely has euhedral crystals in the vesicles - unfortunately, my binocular microscope only magnifies to about x35 or so and they are very small (very sub-mm ) but become apparent when the specimen is tilted and the light glints off the faces. The structure is typically pyritohedral in shape - I am assuming (a dangerous thing to do) that these are Troilite xls. ..and I never got a response as to what gases made the vesicular structure! Best Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 3159 - Vesicular, plutonic eucrite with (pre-)terrestrial crystals?
Zélimir wrote: Gary, many thanks for the URL. Breathtaking photos indeed. Yep. Thank you very much, Gary, for posting the pictures! Zélimir: the aggregate ... a simple sand grain embedded into the vesicle. I am also leaning towards a terrestrial provenance - like Ingo and Zélimir. By the way, the true color of the crystals (it's one large crystal and several smaller ones attached to it and to the walls and the bottom of the vesicle) is that of rose quartz Did you just try to touch it with some tiny tweezers or pin, just to see (under scope) whether it moves back and forth from its equilibrium position Yes, I did but it is firmly anchored to the bottom and the walls of this vesicular cavity. Another observation of potential interest: When you look at photo #2 on Gary's website (magnification 32x) and click on Click here for an extreme closeup of the above photo, you may recognize a black (opaque), tube-like crystal in the 5 o'clock position smack between the large crystal and the wall of the vesicular cavity. Again, I wonder what that might be! Maybe goethite? Thanks for all your comments! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] troilite euhedral crystals
Yes Dave, I know (as a chemist since the late 1960'...). Though I would expect that troilite would more rapidly react with HCl than a more complex sulphide of (Fe,Ni,Co) (but this is just a guess, I never tried a test reaction). Now, these crystals most probably represent a sulphide commonly found in OC's but that underwent far more dramatic (at least different) treatment conditions in space (in terms of ageing and perhaps passivation towards an oxidative of acidic aggressor) than on earth (just a speculation). What is sure is that it is metallic (luster), thus most probably sulphide and not elemental nickel (very unlikely). I will neve accept treating these beauties by HCl just to check what they are. I prefer to opt for some physico-chemical micro- and non destructive technique (experiments planned for future as we wish to perhaps publish these findings). And, above all, I wish to preserve this beauty. What an archive for extraterrestrial materials (heritage) so far so poor in crystals (but wait for future planetary explorations) Zelimir A 16:43 13/01/2007 +, vous avez écrit : Hi Zelimir Superb!!! A splash of HCl on them and the resulting odour of bad eggs will confirm if it is a sulphide or not! As a terrestrial mineral collector i'd certainly want one of these vuggy crystallline slices in my collection! top pics! Best! d. ---Original Message--- From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Zelimir Gabelica Date: 01/13/07 16:39:09 To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Dave Harris; mailto:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.commetlist Cc: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]bernd Pauli; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Gary K. Foote; mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]warin Roger Subject: troilite euhedral crystals Hello Dave, Gary, Bernd, Roger, list Dave, I am glad youthese mentioned euhedral (pyritohedral) troilite crystals. Well, I formely cut a Sierra Colorada (Argentina, L5) and two of the slices obtained contained large (almost centimetric) vugs, some making the 3 mm thick slice hollow! Looking inside is again really breathtaking. Several 5 to almost 10 mm (!) euhedral metallic crystals (also pyritohedral in shape) can be seen, aligned or dispersed, some as quasi isolated single crystals, onto the vug walls. One of them is sectioned through cutting and that small cut face (clearly seen on 2 pictures) indiceted to me, from the typical luster of the cut section, that these could be schreibersite (also possible, though perhaps less likely than troilite). See pictures 4741 and 4744. This is as spectacular as looking into a geode of a terrestrial mineral (although I have never seen terrestrial schreibersite, if ever it exists, because phosphides should readily yield phosphates in contact with air). My friend Roger Warin, not only expert in taking spectacular pictures of thin sections (see some preceding posts), was also able to realize superb close-ups of these geodes and schreibersite crystals. I have no web site to store these peictures for the list but I am enclosing 5 of them as attachments for Bernd, Dave, Roger and Gary . Should perhaps Gary find a way to put them on his URL and send the link to the list, this wouild be just great! Thanks! Pleased to read your comments. Take care, Zelimir A 16:13 13/01/2007 +, Dave Harris a écrit : Hi, My Mt. Taz definitely has euhedral crystals in the vesicles - unfortunately, my binocular microscope only magnifies to about x35 or so and they are very small (very sub-mm ) but become apparent when the specimen is tilted and the light glints off the faces. The structure is typically pyritohedral in shape - I am assuming (a dangerous thing to do) that these are Troilite xls. ..and I never got a response as to what gases made the vesicular structure! Best Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS http://www.bimsociety.orgwww.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list mailto:gt;Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comgt;Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 http://www.incredimail.com/index.asp?id=409lang=9IMSTP3.gif Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] troilite euhedral crystals
Superb photos. There is now a page at; http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/sierracolorada-zelmir.html Check this out everyone! Gary On 13 Jan 2007 at 17:37, Zelimir Gabelica wrote: Hello Dave, Gary, Bernd, Roger, list Dave, I am glad youthese mentioned euhedral (pyritohedral) troilite crystals. Well, I formely cut a Sierra Colorada (Argentina, L5) and two of the slices obtained contained large (almost centimetric) vugs, some making the 3 mm thick slice hollow! Looking inside is again really breathtaking. Several 5 to almost 10 mm (!) euhedral metallic crystals (also pyritohedral in shape) can be seen, aligned or dispersed, some as quasi isolated single crystals, onto the vug walls. One of them is sectioned through cutting and that small cut face (clearly seen on 2 pictures) indiceted to me, from the typical luster of the cut section, that these could be schreibersite (also possible, though perhaps less likely than troilite). See pictures 4741 and 4744. This is as spectacular as looking into a geode of a terrestrial mineral (although I have never seen terrestrial schreibersite, if ever it exists, because phosphides should readily yield phosphates in contact with air). My friend Roger Warin, not only expert in taking spectacular pictures of thin sections (see some preceding posts), was also able to realize superb close-ups of these geodes and schreibersite crystals. I have no web site to store these peictures for the list but I am enclosing 5 of them as attachments for Bernd, Dave, Roger and Gary . Should perhaps Gary find a way to put them on his URL and send the link to the list, this wouild be just great! Thanks! Pleased to read your comments. Take care, Zelimir A 16:13 13/01/2007 +, Dave Harris a écrit : Hi, My Mt. Taz definitely has euhedral crystals in the vesicles - unfortunately, my binocular microscope only magnifies to about x35 or so and they are very small (very sub-mm ) but become apparent when the specimen is tilted and the light glints off the faces. The structure is typically pyritohedral in shape - I am assuming (a dangerous thing to do) that these are Troilite xls. ..and I never got a response as to what gases made the vesicular structure! Best Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD Barwell fragment
Hi, I got a nice little Barwell (IUK) fall frag for sale... http://www.specialistauctions.com/auctiondetails.php?id=261494 Dave IMCA #0092 Sec.BIMS www.bimsociety.org __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] [AD]Looking for.....
Dear listoids, Has anyone some fragments of Lazarev or Mount Baldr for sale (or trade)?? And if possible can bring 'm to the Tucson show..that is...if you'll be there? Let me know of list please. Greetings, Jan Yvonne. Holland www.heavenlybodies.nl meteorites Close encounters of the best kind. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lunar 482 Cross polarized light micrographs
Hi all, Tom Phillips here. Jim Strope has kindly lent me his thin section of NWA 482 Lunar. Most of you know of this meteorite so I wont go into the classification. Jim has the info and a great back story on his site. His email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to get to Jim a CD full of micrographs of this thin imaged in every way possible (Optically). How he circulates them is entirely up to him. I will also post many to the Gallery I have on the Meteorite Times online Magazine. BUT! right now I am eager to show some off! Email me directly and I'll email you 6 smoking images hot off the scope. (The digital ink isn't dry yet!) Feedback is always appreciated and often enjoyed. Tom __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stollen meteorites sale
Dear list, A 15 months ago ,Rob Elliott had a deal with Mohamed ait Ouzrou on his stuck,mohamed ship about 8kg weathered chondrites and 140g mesosiderites compleet fragment.Rob gets the package without any cent payed,because of Mohamed's agreement to test the quality and if Rob is a trustworthy man.when Rob received the stones he wasn't agree the quality then he made a payment of $400 to Mohamed and promissed him to do anther of $400 in the next few days,this is what not happened,no answers from Rob until now , and NOW Mr ROB IS SELLING MOHAMED'S METEORITES STONES .how could you beleive that? Here are the meteorites : http://fernlea.tripod.com/nwa2.html Have you bought a stollen meteorites? if not you can paypal Rob and get 1kg meteorites for even shipping cost. Regards ??? - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.__ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions ended
congratulations for the fast time...arrive 1 day after auctions ended... Matteo --- M come Meteorite Meteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: seen here take many days to appear in the list a message, I write now. My auctions ended at few hours, who want go here http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=mcomemeteorite Matteo M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30173 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ ___ Vinci i biglietti per FIFA World Cup in Germania! yahoo.it/concorso_messenger __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes
I have purchased several cases from Mike. Just placed some dinosaur eggshells into one.They are good quality, inexpensive and the service is second-to-none. -Walter Branch - Original Message - From: Mike Jensen To: MARK BOSTICK Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Riker Boxes Hi Michael Mark Yes we sell them. http://jensenmeteorites.com/supplies.htm Inventory is a little low right now but should have some new ones in today. You are correct that they are not the Riker brand. Main difference is there is no Riker label on the back and the cotton batting is slightly lighter. They also don't make the smallest one which I believe is 2 1/2 X 3 1/2. -- Mike -- Mike Jensen Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 303-337-4361 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On 1/12/07, MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael asked A friend asked me for advise on where to get riker boxes. You might try the Jensen's.http://jensenmeteorites.com/ They sell Riker-like cases and not the namebrand I think. Mark -- It is difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair -- What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It is what we know for sure that just ain't so. - Josh Billings (but oft credited to Mark Twain) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Comet McNaught Is Now A DAYLUGHT COMET!
http://spaceweather.com/ Comet McNaught is now visible in broad daylight. 'It's fantastic,' reports Wayne Winch of Bishop, California. 'I put the sun behind a neighbor's house to block the glare and the comet popped right into view. You can even see the tail!' Just hours ago, Mark Vornhusen took this picture of the comet between clouds over Gais, Switzerland photo This weekend is a special time for Comet McNaught because it is passing close to the sun. Solar heat is causing the comet to vaporize furiously and brighten to daylight visibility. At magnitude -4 to -5, McNaught is the brightest comet since Ikeya-Seki in 1965. The secret to seeing McNaught: Get rid of the sun. You can do this by standing in the shadow of a tall building or billboard. Make a fist and hold it at arm's length. The comet is about one fist-width (5 degrees) east of the sun's position. Try it! Warning: Binoculars dramatically improve the view of the comet, allowing you to see structure within the tail . But please be super-careful not to look at the sun. Direct sunlight through binoculars can cause permanent eye damage. The comet is now as bright or brighter than Venus, which can usually be seen in the daylight if you know where to look. A good trick (often recommended for spotting Venus in daylight) is to take a small cardboard mailing tube one inch or more in diameter or the central tube out of a roll of paper towels and put it to one eye as if it were a telescope (closing the other eye, naturally). I would love to give you a first hand description, but I happen to be in the dead middle of a classic midwestern ice storm. Every leaf, branch, twig, and blade of grass is sheathed in a centimeter of ice, and the sky has been a dark grey wooly mass for two days of perpetual twilight. If the Sun went supernova, I wouldn't have been able to see it... Somewhere the Sun is shining, somewhere the comet's flying, but there is no joy in Mugville; the Visible Universe has struck out. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Comet McNaught Is Now A DAYLUGHT COMET!
GREAT NEWS. PREDICTABLE IF YOU'D SEEN IT!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Comet McNaught Is Now A DAYLUGHT COMET! http://spaceweather.com/ Comet McNaught is now visible in broad daylight. 'It's fantastic,' reports Wayne Winch of Bishop, California. 'I put the sun behind a neighbor's house to block the glare and the comet popped right into view. You can even see the tail!' Just hours ago, Mark Vornhusen took this picture of the comet between clouds over Gais, Switzerland photo This weekend is a special time for Comet McNaught because it is passing close to the sun. Solar heat is causing the comet to vaporize furiously and brighten to daylight visibility. At magnitude -4 to -5, McNaught is the brightest comet since Ikeya-Seki in 1965. The secret to seeing McNaught: Get rid of the sun. You can do this by standing in the shadow of a tall building or billboard. Make a fist and hold it at arm's length. The comet is about one fist-width (5 degrees) east of the sun's position. Try it! Warning: Binoculars dramatically improve the view of the comet, allowing you to see structure within the tail . But please be super-careful not to look at the sun. Direct sunlight through binoculars can cause permanent eye damage. The comet is now as bright or brighter than Venus, which can usually be seen in the daylight if you know where to look. A good trick (often recommended for spotting Venus in daylight) is to take a small cardboard mailing tube one inch or more in diameter or the central tube out of a roll of paper towels and put it to one eye as if it were a telescope (closing the other eye, naturally). I would love to give you a first hand description, but I happen to be in the dead middle of a classic midwestern ice storm. Every leaf, branch, twig, and blade of grass is sheathed in a centimeter of ice, and the sky has been a dark grey wooly mass for two days of perpetual twilight. If the Sun went supernova, I wouldn't have been able to see it... Somewhere the Sun is shining, somewhere the comet's flying, but there is no joy in Mugville; the Visible Universe has struck out. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stoned sofa for sale
Come on, if people buy mailboxes hit by meteorites, cars hit by meteorites, vent covers hit by meteorites, and hammer heads dug up while looking for meteorites, surely someone here would want this. http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=347641 Meteorite-damaged NZ sofa for sale 14th January 2007, 5:30 WST A New Zealand couple are auctioning a sofa which was damaged when a meteorite crashed through the roof of their Auckland home. Phil and Brenda Archer, who now live in New Plymouth, are advertising the sofa - and a replica meteorite - for sale on the TradeMe website. The couple were propelled into the headlines when the meteorite smashed through the roof of their Auckland home in June 2004. The rock travelled up to 700 million kilometres from the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter. The meteorite was a four billion-year-old 1.3 kg rock and was the last known recovered meteorite to have landed in New Zealand. Named the Auckland meteorite, the space rock was bought for $NZ40,000 ($A35,500) by the Auckland War Memorial Museum. Along with the sofa the couple have also put on the website ruptured roofing tiles, a splintered ceiling beam, a ceiling panel and a pink batt all damaged by the meteorite. At 7.30am Sunday the reserve price of $400 for the sofa had not been met. The couple told the Taranaki Daily News they wanted to sell the collection because they were sick of lugging the items around. Since it happened, we have moved six times. We want to get rid of them and let someone else have them that might see some value in them, Phil Archer told the newspaper. Archer was sitting on the toilet checking out new cars in a motoring magazine when the meteorite hit his house. There was this huge bang and a cloud of dust and debris went through the front room. I thought a car had hit the house. In the only account in New Zealand of a meteorite crashing into a house, the chunk of space rock punched a hole through the roof of the Archers' home, bounced off their couch, ricocheted off the ceiling and back on to the couch before ending up on the floor. The most common meteorites to fall on Earth are called chondrites - stone meteorites which contain small balls of fine-grained silicate rock matrix with small spherical glass inclusions. Meteor showers recur on nearly the same date of every year, because they occur when the Earth's orbit around the Sun takes it through a clump of meteoric debris. NZPA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [AD]Looking for.....
Hello Jan, I have the following, as duplicates (I am not a dealer and only sell/trade a piece when I can improve it in collection): 1) Lazarev: part slice of 7.14 g, one crusted edge, etched with nice W. pattern visible. Got from Sergey Vasiliev in 2005 but now duplicate 2) Mount Baldr: I have 2 small fragments, about 0.4 g each, gray (must check if some crust present but I doubt). Believe I got them from Rob Elliott in 2003 (not sure) The bad news is that these are in my collection that is in Belgium. But (exceptionnally), this week I am in France and back only next Saturday. Probably too late for you to get the pieces for Tucson if ever you are interested. That is also the reason I can't describe them better(sizes etc). They are just only mentioned and roughly described on my sales computer list. I don't remember the prices either but am ready to release these at a lower price than purchased. I hope you have better luck elsewhere. Very cordially, Zelimir PS: Yvonne and you are always welcome in Ensisheim! A 20:11 13/01/2007 +0100, vous avez écrit : Dear listoids, Has anyone some fragments of Lazarev or Mount Baldr for sale (or trade)?? And if possible can bring 'm to the Tucson show..that is...if you'll be there? Let me know of list please. Greetings, Jan Yvonne. Holland www.heavenlybodies.nl meteorites Close encounters of the best kind. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 Fax: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 15 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
