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2007-10-12 Thread Rob Wesel



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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - October 11, 2007

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

SPIRIT UPDATE: Hardy Rover Continues to Celebrate Milestones - 
sol 1337-1342, October 11, 2007:

After enduring seasonal dust storms much stronger than the rover was
designed to survive, Spirit has now been exploring the Red Planet for
two Martian years. That is a period of time longer than three years on
Earth and more than 10 times the duration of the original 90-day
mission. In fact, on Oct. 1, 2007, the rover entered the fifth extension
of its original mission!

Spirit has arrived at a field of boulders that the science team is
nicknaming after Colorado 14'ers -- Earth peaks taller than 14,000 feet.
Atmospheric dust levels continue to wane, and Spirit took advantage of
additional sunlight by using solar power to transmit data to Earth at
night when the Odyssey orbiter passed overhead. These transmissions will
free up more of Spirit's on-board computer memory.

Spirit began studies of a rock known as Humboldt Peak at Site 3a.
This particular rock is dark and angular and appears to be similar to
Comanche-class rocks encountered by the rover earlier in the mission
on Husband Hill.

On sol 1339 (Oct. 9, 2007), the rover conducted a communications test
with the European Space Agency's Mars Express orbiter. Mars Express will
provide backup communications during the entry, descent, and landing of
the Phoenix mission, due to arrive near the north pole of Mars on the
United States' Memorial Day weekend of 2008.

The relays with Mars Express are a prime example of the value of having
multiple spacecraft at Mars -- by using the same UHF radio frequencies
as those used by the rovers and Mars Express, Phoenix will benefit from
tried-and-true communications links already in place. Another example is
Spirit's ability to take thermal measurements looking up into the
atmosphere that fill in data that cannot be collected from above by
orbiters looking down. The result is a more complete profile of the
Martian atmosphere.

Sol-by-sol summary

In addition to measuring atmospheric dust levels (known as tau
measurements) with the panoramic camera and surveying the sky and ground
with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, Spirit completed the
following activities:

Sol 1337 (Oct. 7, 2007): Spirit acquired full-color images, using all 13
filters of the panoramic camera, of boulders at Site 3a. The rover
approached Humboldt Peak and acquired post-drive images with the hazard
avoidance and navigation cameras.

Sol 1338: Spirit completed a survey of rock clasts and acquired
thumbnail images of the sky with the panoramic camera. The rover
calibrated the miniature thermal emission spectrometer and acquired data
from Mt. Elbert with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The
rover transmitted data to Earth overnight via the Odyssey orbiter.

Sol 1339: Spirit calibrated the miniature thermal emission spectrometer
and performed late-night tests of communications with the Mars Express
orbiter.

Sol 1340: Spirit searched for morning dust devils with the navigation
camera and checked for drift (changes with time) in the miniature themal
emission spectrometer. Spirit acquired a stereo mosaic of microscopic
images of Humboldt Peak and placed the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer
on the target for overnight studies prior to brushing the surface. The
rover surveyed a target known as Crestone Needle with the miniature
thermal emission spectrometer and then conducted an 18-hour, overnight
study of Humboldt Peak with the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer, while
also relaying data to Earth via the Odyssey orbiter.

Sol 1341: Spirit took spot images of the sky with the panoramic camera,
checked for drift in the miniature thermal emission spectrometer, and
brushed the surface of Humboldt Peak with the rock abrasion tool. The
rover placed the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer on the newly brushed
surface. Spirit surveyed targets dubbed Snowmass and Castle Peak
with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The rover conducted a
19-hour, overnight study of the brushed surface of Humboldt Peak with
the alpha-particle X-ray spectrometer.

Sol 1342 (Oct. 12, 2007): Plans called for Spirit to look for morning
clouds with the navigation camera and check for drift in the miniature
thermal emission spectrometer. The rover was to switch tools to the
Moessbauer spectrometer and spend 23 hours collecting data from the
brushed surface of Humboldt Peak with the instrument. Spirit was also
scheduled to relay data to Earth during the overnight pass of the
Odyssey orbiter and acquire data from a target known as Mt. Evans
using the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The next morning, the
rover was expected to survey the sky with the panoramic camera.

Odometry:

As of sol 1337 (Oct. 7, 2007), Spirit's total odometry was 7,261.29
meters (4.5 miles).


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[meteorite-list] Saturn's Rings Carry Extra Weight

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.astronomy.com/asy/default.aspx?c=aid=6104

Saturn's rings carry extra weight

Recent computer simulations show Saturn's rings may be more massive and
much older than astronomers thought.

Richard Talcott
Astronomy Magazine
October 10, 2007

A lthough Saturn's rings are so thin they disappear when turned edge-on
to our line of sight, they apparently contain more material than meets
the eye. We'll need to rewrite the textbooks on how much mass is in the
rings, claims University of Colorado planetary scientist Glen Stewart.
Stewart presented his team's findings Monday at the annual meeting of
the American Astronomical Society's Division for Planetary Sciences in
Orlando, Florida.

Scientists probe ring structure by monitoring starlight passing through
the rings. During such a stellar occultation, ring material dims the
star - the light dims most when it traverses the thickest regions. The
problem: When the Cassini spacecraft observes occultations, the results
vary depending on viewing geometry. The only way this can happen is if
the ring particles clump together.

Stewart's computer simulations show the gravitational attraction between
ring particles causes them to bunch into clusters organized into
connected strands, resembling a giant spider web. As the particles orbit
Saturn, gravity slowly shears apart some strands while building new ones.

When Cassini observes starlight passing through dense ring material, it
records the amount of area between the opaque strands rather than the
density of web material itself. Stewart estimates the densest part of
the rings - in the core of the bright B ring - contains more than three
times the mass scientists previously estimated. This means the entire
ring system possesses at least three times the mass of the mid-sized
saturnian moon Mimas.

Stewart thinks the rings' large mass also provides a clue to their
origin. Scientists have three theories describing how the beautiful
system formed: It's the remains of a moon shattered by an impact inside
Saturn's Roche lobe (where tidal forces would keep the debris from
reforming); the break-up of a large comet in the fairly recent past; or
the remnants of a proto-satellite accretion disk. Most scientists lean
toward the comet breakup theory because the outer A ring shows features
thought to be only 100 million years old or so.

Stewart's new mass estimate leads him to reject this idea simply because
no known comet comes close to being three times Mimas' size. He also
eliminates the leftover accretion disk idea because theory now suggests
moons likely would migrate through and disrupt such a disk.

That leaves debris from a catastrophic impact into a massive moon as the
most likely scenario, says Stewart. Such a collision almost certainly
would have occurred early in the solar system's history, during the
so-called late heavy bombardment, when huge collisions happened much
more frequently. Stewart believes the massive B ring - which contains
more than 95 percent of the overall rings' mass - can be ancient and
evolve slowly while the A and C rings remain relatively young.

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[meteorite-list] Mystery Sound Rattles Windows, Residents in Missouri

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newstribune.com/articles/2007/10/09/news_local/083local03boom.txt

Mystery sound rattles windows, residents; baffles officials
By Jeff Haldiman
News Tribune (Missouri)
October 12, 2007

Around 12:20 p.m. Monday, a series of loud booms was heard in many parts
of Jefferson City and Cole County.

The origin remains a mystery, but an aircraft breaking the sound barrier
is considered the most likely cause.

Numerous calls were received at the 911 center. Some reports indicated
the noises rocked and shook buildings, but authorities reported no
damage being attributed to the booms.

Police went to the area where crews are working on the City View
interchange. Blasting has been taking place to reshape the land, but
workers said they were not blasting at that time. However, they did hear
the booms, just as other citizens had.

If that were a blasting incident, something catastrophic would have
happened, said Jefferson City Fire Department Education Officer Jason
Turner, who said their department got a number of calls and e-mails from
citizens wondering what had happened.

After we got the calls we started checking with those contractors who
had blasting permits at this time and all were not blasting when the
booms were heard, he said.

Streaks were spotted in the sky by police officers not long after the
booms were heard, making them believe it was an airplane breaking the
sound barrier.

Officers called the control tower at the Jefferson City Memorial Airport
to see if they could find out from the FAA what had taken place.
Although no definitive answer was found, all indications pointed to a
sonic boom.

Since Monday was a state and federal holiday, the Missouri National
Guard was not flying their planes, according to spokesperson Capt. Tammy
Spicer.

Most of our activity would be down at Ft. Leonard Wood, where we do
have a bombing range, she said. Because it was a holiday I would be
shocked to find out someone was flying around, unless it was a something
set up ahead of time.

The Missouri National Guard does have a squad of F-15's based at Lambert
Airport in St. Louis.

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[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - October 10, 2007

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke


MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES
October 10, 2007

o Layers in Holden Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001666_1530

o Evidence for Water and Wind Processes in Gale Crate
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_001752_1750

o MSL Landing Site in Melas Chasma 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_002828_1700

o Color Image of Nili Fossae Trough, Candidate MSL Landing Site 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003086_2015

o Rocky Mesas of Nilosyrtis Mensae Region
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003231_2095

o Layered Bedrock in Candor Chasma 
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_003830_1740

o Layers Exposed in Crater Near Mawrth Vallis
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_004052_2045

o Colorful Rocks in the Central Peaks of Ritchey Crater
  http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_005372_1515  

All of the HiRISE images are archived here:

http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/

Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is 
online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is 
managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division 
of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA 
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed 
Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor 
and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the 
University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies 
Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument.
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[meteorite-list] Mysterious Shaking Rattles Central California

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.ksby.com/Global/story.asp?S=7197321

Mysterious shaking rattles Central Coast this morning
Reported by: Melissa Mecija 
KSBY 6 Action News
October 10, 2007

Mysterious shaking rattled the Central Coast late Wednesday morning.

It happened around 11:00 and was felt all the way from Santa Maria to
Morro Bay.

Some said it felt like a small earthquake. Others thought it may be
another sonic boom.

Caltech and seismic experts at UC Santa Barbara says there was no
earthquake in the region during that timeframe, except for a couple
small ones in the Paso Robles area.

They agree that it was most likely caused by military flight testing.

There are several military facilities that test supersonic aircraft,
including Vandenberg Air Force Base, Lemoore Naval Air Station, and
Edwards Air Force Base. None could confirm they tested their aircraft
during that time.

Hundreds of you called in during the last mysterious shaking in July. At
that time, Edwards Air Force Base says new F-22 Raptor training missions
probably caused that sonic boom.

Raptors are known for the distinctive sound they make when they go
supersonic.

Most residents we talked to were not too startled by this morning's shaker.

The mobile home kind of rocked a little bit and the windows shook and
that was it, said Lompoc resident, Joan Baker.

It just sounded like there was something on the roof, something hit the
roof-maybe some strong wind, said Lompoc resident, Gavin Simpson. It
didn't really occur to me [and] it kind of stopped me for a moment.

Military aircraft do fly through the area frequently. Even though some
do reach supersonic speeds, like the F-22, a low flying aircraft not
going at that speed could have also caused minor shaking.

A spokesman from Edwards Air Force Base says right now, conditions are
ideal to hear a sonic boom or any noise coming from large aircraft.

The spokesman adds, winds coming in off the ocean help to carry that sound.

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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: October 8-12, 2007

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 8-12, 2007

o Medusa Fossae Textures (Released 08 October 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071008a

o Medusa Fossae Textures (Released 09 October 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071009a

o Medusa Fossae Textures (Released 10 October 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071010a

o Medusa Fossae Textures (Released 11 October 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071011a

o Medusa Fossae Textures (Released 12 October 2007)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071012a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 


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[meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big bolide over Algarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread Armando Afonso
Does anyone on the list knows something about the bolide reported yesterday 
in the south of Portugal?
Refered was an angular altitude of the point of extinction of aprox. 15º , 
and west to east trajectory. 



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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Moni Waiblinger

Hello All,

yesterday I tried twice to send my condolence to Jim Kriegh's family and 
friends on this list.
It didn't make it but hopefully this one will.
Reading all the posts from the list members Mr. Kriegh won't be forgotten.
I am always so happy to have fond memories of my departed friends.
So Jim made many memories for all of you!
That is only possible of a genuine and caring person.
My heart felt sympathy to his family and friends.

I think it would be a great idea having a plaque made.
I go to a park where there are stone benches and they have plaques on the back 
rests.

Regards,
Moni

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 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:16:47 -0700
 Subject: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh

 Hello Everyone,

 I had an idea about how we can all celebrate Jim Kriegh's life. It seems
 fitting to honor a man who has added so much to so many people's lives. Look
 how many of us he affected and imagine how many other people there are. We
 can only hope to meet someone like Jim once in our lives. What do you think
 about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's park?

 I'm not talking about a gravestone and we certainly couldn't put a HUGE
 meteorite there (but how great would that be!) but we could have a
 regmaglyph-carved stone or a big petrified log with a tasteful plaque
 attached. More ideas?

 I don't have an idea what this would cost or if it would even be allowed so
 please don't start PayPaling. If anyone's interested, please contact me
 off-list to let me know you're interested and I'll start checking this all
 out on Monday.

 We had a death in our family yesterday as well so I am heading out of town
 until Sunday. I'll contact you when I get back home.

 Maria Haas
 Treasurer
 I.M.C.A., Inc.
 www.IMCA.cc
 Member #5520

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[meteorite-list] Composition of Apophis Matches LL Chondrite Meteorites

2007-10-12 Thread Ron Baalke


MIT: Asteroid is practice case for potential hazards

For Immediate Release   FRIDAY, OCT. 12, 2007

Contact:
Elizabeth A. Thomson, MIT News Office
Phone: 1-617-258-5402 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

CAMBRIDGE, Mass.--In research that could aid decisions about future 
asteroids on a collision course with Earth, MIT researchers have for 
the first time determined the composition of a near-Earth asteroid 
that has a very slight possibility of someday hitting our planet.

That information could be useful in planning any future space mission to 
explore the asteroid, called Apophis. And if the time ever were to 
come when this object or another turned out to be on its way toward an 
impact on Earth, knowing what it's made of could be one important factor 
in deciding what to do about it.

Basic characterization is the first line of defense, says Richard P. 
Binzel, Professor of Planetary Sciences in the Department of Earth, 
Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences (EAPS). We've got to know the enemy.

Binzel presented the new findings this week at the annual meeting of the
Division for Planetary Sciences of the American Astronomical Society.

Studying the composition of Apophis has been a useful practice case, 
Binzel says, because you never know when the real one will come along 
that is on a collision with the Earth. For determining the composition 
of a threatening asteroid, Binzel says, We don't know when the real 
test will come, but we're ready.

On April 13, 2029, Apophis will come relatively close to Earth (it will 
miss us by about 22,000 miles). But when it comes by again in 2036, 
there is a very small possibility - about one chance in 45,000 - that 
it could be on a collision course.

So Binzel, working with EAPS graduate students Cristina Thomas and Francesca 
DeMeo and others, has been using telescopes on Earth to find
out as much as possible about the nature of Apophis and other asteroids. 
Short of putting together a space mission that would take years and cost 
hundreds of millions of dollars, such observations are the best way to 
find out as much as possible about any space rock that might someday be 
coming our way, Binzel says.

Using the MIT Magellan telescope in Chile and NASA's Infrared Telescope 
Facility in Hawaii, they have now been able to figure out exactly what 
Apophis is made of. The composition, I think, is really nailed, he says.

The key to understanding the mineral makeup of an asteroid is to compare it 
with samples of asteroidal material that have been delivered, free of 
charge, to the Earth, in the form of the many thousands of meteorites 
that have been collected over the years.

Spectral analysis - measuring how the meteorites reflect light of different
wavelengths - can be used to determine their exact mineral constituents. 
Similarly, a spectral analysis of the light reflected from a distant
asteroid shows the same telltale lines that reveal its composition. By 
comparing the two kinds of spectra, an asteroid that is just a faraway 
pinprick of light can be correlated with a piece of a space rock in the 
laboratory.

Binzel and his students were able to use both visible-light and infrared
spectroscopy to show that Apophis is a good match for a rare type of
meteorite, known as a type LL chondrite. These represent just 7 percent of 
the known meteorite falls on Earth, and are rich in the minerals pyroxene 
and olivine, which are also common on Earth.

The beauty of having found a meteorite match for Apophis is that because we
have laboratory measurements for the density and strength of these 
meteorites, we can infer many of the same properties for the asteroid 
Apophis itself, Binzel says.

An object the size of Apophis (about 270 meters across) could devastate a 
region as large as France, or produce tsunamis over a wide area if it 
struck at sea. Many ideas have been proposed for how to deal with
such a threat, ranging from using bombs, lasers or spacecraft to nudge it 
out of the way to blowing it to pieces while it is still far away. The 
selection of the best course of action may depend of the physical 
characteristics of the object, including its mineral composition.

--END-

Written by David Chandler, MIT News Office
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[meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Maria Haas
Hello Everyone,

I had an idea about how we can all celebrate Jim Kriegh's life. It seems 
fitting to honor a man who has added so much to so many people's lives. Look 
how many of us he affected and imagine how many other people there are. We 
can only hope to meet someone like Jim once in our lives. What do you think 
about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's park?

I'm not talking about a gravestone and we certainly couldn't put a HUGE 
meteorite there (but how great would that be!) but we could have a 
regmaglyph-carved stone or a big petrified log with a tasteful plaque 
attached. More ideas?

I don't have an idea what this would cost or if it would even be allowed so 
please don't start PayPaling. If anyone's interested, please contact me 
off-list to let me know you're interested and I'll start checking this all 
out on Monday.

We had a death in our family yesterday as well so I am heading out of town 
until Sunday. I'll contact you when I get back home.

Maria Haas
Treasurer
I.M.C.A., Inc.
www.IMCA.cc
Member #5520 

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Re: [meteorite-list] In Memory of Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Christian Anger

My Remembrance of Jim

www.austromet.com/jim_chris_twink.jpg

back in 2002

Christian




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[meteorite-list] A Wild Debate

2007-10-12 Thread Darren Garrison
http://www.innovations-report.de/html/berichte/veranstaltungen/bericht-92747.html

Clouds of molten droplets in the early solar system?
12.10.2007 - 12.10.2007
Comets and asteroids are a small but important part of the Solar System.
Scientists have long debated how they formed: did their component grains accrete
from the cloud of gas and dust – the solar nebula - that encircled the Sun at
the beginning of the Solar System or did they undergo melting due to violent
impacts and the presence of short-lived radioactivity? 

On October 12th delegates attending the Royal Astronomical Society (RAS) meeting
‘Early Solar System Processes on Meteorites’ will discuss the competing
theories. The meeting is being held in honour of the late Robert Hutchison, who
was a distinguished meteorite expert at the Natural History Museum and used
early Solar System samples to deduce how asteroids formed.

One group of scientists believes that the partial melting of asteroids led to
the formation of chondrules, mm-size melt droplets which make up many
meteorites. Another camp is convinced that asteroids grew from cold particles in
the solar nebula and that the chondrules formed beforehand. There are currently
two main ways of studying this question: one is to analyse the composition and
age of primitive meteorites, the other makes use of similarly primitive grains
collected from Comet Wild-2 by the NASA Stardust space probe, which returned a
sample to Earth in January 2006.

Like other comets, Wild-2 began life in the earliest stages of the Solar System,
more than 4500 million years ago. At that time the rocky, metallic and icy
material that ultimately formed the planets started to form larger bodies. Ices
of water, ammonia, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide condensed in the cold
outer parts of the Solar System. Most of the ices ended up as part of the gas
giant planets – Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune – but some remained in much
smaller bodies 1-10 km across that eventually formed the cores (nuclei) of
comets.

Comets that have spent most of their lives at a great distance from the Sun
contain the least processed material in the Solar System, whereas in contrast an
increasing number of scientists believe that asteroid surfaces were extensively
melted. For example, one theory put forward by Dr Ian Sanders of Trinity College
Dublin is that the presence of radioactive material created enough heat to
partially melt the building blocks of planets and asteroids (planetesimals)
found in the early Solar System. When these objects collided they would have
created great clouds of molten droplets, the predecessors of the material found
in asteroids today.

Meeting chair Dr John Bridges of the University of Leicester is part of the
international team studying grains from Wild-2 and hence the early history of
the Solar System. Dr Bridges comments ‘There has been a vigorous debate for many
years about how the earliest planetesimals formed – either from cold
accumulation of dust and gas from the nebula and interstellar space or through
impact and radioactivity-induced melting. By studying Comet Wild-2 and primitive
meteorites we are starting to reveal the true nature of a violent early Solar
System where many of the earliest planetary building blocks underwent repeated
collisions and melting episodes.’ 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh - A Remembrance in Pictures

2007-10-12 Thread Ruben Garcia
Very cool Geoff!!


Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com


   

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[meteorite-list] Fwd: OT:PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT - WORLDWIDE CAUTION--Travel

2007-10-12 Thread drtanuki
Hi List,
  This is remotely related to meteorites.  Person`s
traveling overseas should be sure to check with their
country`s Embassy or Dept. of State.  
  Travel safely and smart.
Dirk Ross...Tokyo

--- American Embassy Tokyo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: American Embassy Tokyo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT - WORLDWIDE CAUTION
 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:56:24 -0500 (CDT)
 
 
 1.  This Public Announcement updates information on
 the
 continuing threat of terrorist actions and violence
 against Americans and interests overseas.  This
 supersedes
 the Worldwide Caution dated April 10, 2007 and
 expires on
 April 9, 2008.
 
 2.  The Department of State remains concerned about
 the
 continued threat of terrorist attacks,
 demonstrations and
 other violent actions against U.S. citizens and
 interests
 overseas.  Current information suggests that
 al-Qaida and
 affiliated organizations continue to plan terrorist
 attacks against U.S. interests in multiple regions,
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2007-10-12 Thread perry allen

please take of list


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[meteorite-list] NWA 2380 (A plug)

2007-10-12 Thread steve arnold
Good morning to all fine list members.I recently
bought 2 slices of NWA 2380 (WHICH I AM HAPPILY
WAITING TO COME),it is a new NWA that mike cottingham
has offered on eBay.It is a simply wonderful looking
meteorite.It has Grey chondrules of all shapes and
sizes.I have never seen a meteorite where most of the
chondrules are mostly gray.This is a very porous
meteorite and has many vesicles.One stone of 4.5
kilo's was found in 2004.Mike owned the whole stone
than cut into it and discovered these really unique
features.The 2.5 kilo main mass is sitting on eBay at
a $1 a gram.A really worthy stone.It is an LL5,S2.W1
so it is a really fresh piece.If you do not have this
you should act now or it will be all gone.Thanks again
mike for a really nice specimen.



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Re: [meteorite-list] asteroid one hour away

2007-10-12 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Darren - 

Don't you know that the premise of the question is
bogus?

Since the Congress of the United States passed the
George Brown Ammendment to the NASA Charter
specifically instructing NASA not to allow this to
happen, the whole thing is simpy a PR stunt that 
distracts from Michael Griffin's current contempt of
Congress.

This little campaign perpetuates the BIG LIE that  
many manned Mars flight enthusiasts promote that
nothing can be done to prevent or mitigate impact.

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[meteorite-list] Giant Shatter Cone

2007-10-12 Thread Stefan Brandes

also very interesting :

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=375072

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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread Notkin

Maria Haas wrote:

What do you think about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's 
park?



Dear Maria:

Firstly, very sorry to hear you have experienced your own loss. My 
condolences to you and your family.


Secondly, the new IMCA Treasurer comes up with another brilliant idea. 
Jim was greatly respected in Oro Valley (in addition to his meteorite 
community friends, I mean) and there may be some official support 
available for a project like this. Tucson/Oro Valley has a thriving 
independent arts scene, and I am certain that a suitable artist, 
sculptor, or metal worker could be found to create something unique and 
affordable. In fact, I may know just the person. Also, the Tucson Pima 
Arts Council sends out regular newsletters to their rather enthusiastic 
members' list and a Call to Artists announcement is a regular 
feature. I know the Director of TPAC, so it would very likely be an 
easy thing to get artists to submit proposals to you, or whoever might 
direct this project. You know those artists, always hungry for work  : 
)


Further, I am quite sure that a number of us would join together to 
donate some type of iron meteorite which could be incorporated into a 
sculpture, or similar, if that's the route you decide to take.


Outside the Flandrau Planetarium here in Tucson, there is a very fine 
Canyon Diablo welded to a steel sculpture. It's most impressive. If 
there is support in the community for this, I think it is do-able. Of 
course, it would have to be cleared with the city of Oro Valley first, 
but I vote we pursue the idea.



With best wishes,

Geoff N.

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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:35:24 -0700, you wrote:

Maria Haas wrote:

 What do you think about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's 
 park?


Secondly, the new IMCA Treasurer comes up with another brilliant idea. 
Jim was greatly respected in Oro Valley (in addition to his meteorite 
community friends, I mean) and there may be some official support 
available for a project like this. 

I never knew Jim Kriegh (my loss, from what I hear of him) so I have no dog in
this fight, but a thought strikes me-- with all of the meteorite coins lately
with a famous collector/scientist on one side and an imbedded bit of meteorite
on the other, why not one for him, with a bit of Gold Basin? 
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[meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Stefan Brandes

Interesting formation :

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

any ideas?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big bolide over Algarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Farmer
Ohhh, I would love a trip back to Portugal, very nice
place, Albufiera was wonderful.
Michael Farmer
--- Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Does anyone on the list knows something about the
 bolide reported yesterday 
 in the south of Portugal?
 Refered was an angular altitude of the point of
 extinction of aprox. 15º , 
 and west to east trajectory. 
 
 
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[meteorite-list] New wooden stands for Meteorite COINS - for sale

2007-10-12 Thread PolandMET

Hello
I have new very cool stands for coins.
Its made from wood and can hold coins in size of 38mm, so Nantan and Brenham 
coins fit.

Price is only 5$/stand and shipping 6$ for every 8 stands worldwide.
http://www.polandmet.com/_coin.htm
or on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=120171491451

Also I have 30 other auctions this weekend and next week

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[meteorite-list] how does it work to host photo on the list blog.

2007-10-12 Thread habibi abdelaziz
hello list
MR art jones told me that it's pôssible to host photo
on the list blog how is that working.
thanks
aziz


  
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[meteorite-list] Ad: Carancas ejecta with meteorite imbedded ending in one hour.

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Farmer
This is not my auction, I am posting it for Robert
Ward, one of my partners in Peru. 


The first auction is unique, in that it is a large
piece of clay, with two seperate meteorite specimens
imbedded in it, ejecta from the Carancas meteorite
crater. Robert found two of them with the metal
detector, he is selling this one, keeping the other
one forever, I don't blame him.

http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170157596212

5 gram piece of Carancas  meteorite. 
http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ170157564932



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[meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread bernd . pauli
Darren wrote:

with all of the meteorite coins lately with a famous collector/scientist
on one side and an imbedded bit of meteorite on the other, why not one
for him, with a bit of Gold Basin?

Hello All!

I like this idea quite a bit. I've never bought any of these coins (even
though I do collect certain coins: Australian Kookaburra silver coins,
for example) but I would surely buy a coin commemorating Jim!

One step further: If we could find a mint willing to (re-)invest the money
they get from selling this coin or part of the money they get, in a plaque
(maybe this mint could also produce that plaque) for Jim, we would have
both: a coin + a plaque.

The money that comes from selling these coins could also be used to
reimburse the artist that Geoff mentioned for the sculpture that he or
she's going to create to commemorate Jim.

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread Floyd Griff Griffith

This is a cool idea.
What a way to be remembered.
I hope this flies.
I also like the idea of doing something in the park.

Best to all
Floyd Griff Griffith
Parker, Colorado, USA
IMCA #2510

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea



On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:35:24 -0700, you wrote:


Maria Haas wrote:


What do you think about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's
park?





Secondly, the new IMCA Treasurer comes up with another brilliant idea.
Jim was greatly respected in Oro Valley (in addition to his meteorite
community friends, I mean) and there may be some official support
available for a project like this.


I never knew Jim Kriegh (my loss, from what I hear of him) so I have no 
dog in
this fight, but a thought strikes me-- with all of the meteorite coins 
lately
with a famous collector/scientist on one side and an imbedded bit of 
meteorite

on the other, why not one for him, with a bit of Gold Basin?
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[meteorite-list] Ad: Carancas ejecta with meteorite imbedded ending

2007-10-12 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin

That picture of you holding the specimen in from of the crater is awesome :)
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Re: [meteorite-list] new fall photo section, south mali CHERGACH

2007-10-12 Thread PolandMET


so this possible  H/L unequilbrated meteorite in all 
way is  a very  rare one and very nice.

a beauty ,a black matrix.
enjoy photo.
http://www.meteoritebiz.com/AzizNewFall.htm


Hi Aziz
Lets play again :)
I bet that it is  H4 with high shock stage , but not breccia

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[meteorite-list] new fall photo section, south mali CHERGACH

2007-10-12 Thread habibi abdelaziz
dear list member,
we have some news now;
i heard the place of the fall is chergach in mali.
the main mass is 10 kilos stone.
there is some micometeorite of this ellipse.

and the important is that this pristine meteorite look
like nothing i have seen before, one of my best
knowledgeble friend told me it could be an
unequilibrated H.
yesterday when i was cuting the meteorite to show
photo to the list i tought it's a carbonaceous CR clan
.the scientist will love to work on this meteorite.
 i have seen inside the stone some black inclusion and
some very nice chondrule.
so this possible  H/L unequilbrated meteorite in all 
way is  a very  rare one and very nice.
a beauty ,a black matrix.
enjoy photo.
http://www.meteoritebiz.com/AzizNewFall.htm

and for those who have sad it was bassikounou or
amgala or zag , i forgive them .but next time be wise
and wait and see.

all the best
aziz habibi.







  
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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread Ruben Garcia

Hi All,
Count me in!  I'll go along with whatever is popular.
I'll donate $, iron meteorite, time, or whatever. 

After all, without Jim there would be no 
Mr-meteorite!! From what I can tell, it's possible
that Mike Farmer, Sonny Clary and many others would
also be doing something else.



Ruben Garcia
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[meteorite-list] Michael Farmer and the Meteorite of Peru

2007-10-12 Thread Darren Garrison
http://space.about.com/b/a/256964.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread pkmorgan
Looks like something fun to check out either way.  I've been meaning to
get over and explore that general area.  Of course it would have to be
pretty obvious for me to notice anything :-)

By the way, I have heard a theory that there was a large strike at some
point in central Oregon causing a hot spot in the mantle (?) which has
since migrated through the Snake River plain in southern Idaho and now
lies beneath Yellowstone National Park resulting in all of the geothermal
activity in that area.

Thanks for sharing!

Phil


 Interesting formation :

 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

 any ideas?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry
Cool news ie. impact causing HOT SPOT. So Cool. If we generalize [which 
I presume we must not without scientific data to support the supposition] 
Yellowstone, Sunset Crater, etc. are all impact sites caused when the crust 
was so deeply wounded the mantle material persists in melting whatever 
crustal material attempts to scab the wound!

SUPER COOL!!
Jerry Flaherty
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Looks like something fun to check out either way.  I've been meaning to
get over and explore that general area.  Of course it would have to be
pretty obvious for me to notice anything :-)

By the way, I have heard a theory that there was a large strike at some
point in central Oregon causing a hot spot in the mantle (?) which has
since migrated through the Snake River plain in southern Idaho and now
lies beneath Yellowstone National Park resulting in all of the geothermal
activity in that area.

Thanks for sharing!

Phil



Interesting formation :

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

any ideas?

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[meteorite-list] new fall more photo.

2007-10-12 Thread habibi abdelaziz
llo list members,
here is an other link to the photo of this prestine
meteorite.
http://meteoritestudies.com/CHERGACH.HTM
and thanks to my  friend david weir and to bob holmes
for hosting them.
enjoy
aziz
nb: thanks for all the  emails, be sur i will treat
them one by one and each one will have some of this
nice meteorite.


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh - Maria's Idea

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry

Definitely Gold Basin!!!
Jerry Flaherty
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:35:24 -0700, you wrote:


Maria Haas wrote:


What do you think about getting together to erect a monument in Jim's
park?





Secondly, the new IMCA Treasurer comes up with another brilliant idea.
Jim was greatly respected in Oro Valley (in addition to his meteorite
community friends, I mean) and there may be some official support
available for a project like this.


I never knew Jim Kriegh (my loss, from what I hear of him) so I have no 
dog in
this fight, but a thought strikes me-- with all of the meteorite coins 
lately
with a famous collector/scientist on one side and an imbedded bit of 
meteorite

on the other, why not one for him, with a bit of Gold Basin?
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Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Farmer and the Meteorite of Peru

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry

Thanks Darren, much more balanced article.
Jerry Flaherty
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http://space.about.com/b/a/256964.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry
Need a team of crater specialists on the ground to make a determination. Too 
bad Gene Schmaker isn't still alive to make the trip. But I know from the 
Meteoritical  Society Meeting that theree are ample young scientists to fill 
the role.

Jerry Flaherty
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Interesting formation :

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

any ideas?

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Re: [meteorite-list] new fall more photo.

2007-10-12 Thread Jerry

Wow talk about shock viens.
Jerry Flaherty
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llo list members,
here is an other link to the photo of this prestine
meteorite.
http://meteoritestudies.com/CHERGACH.HTM
and thanks to my  friend david weir and to bob holmes
for hosting them.
enjoy
aziz
nb: thanks for all the  emails, be sur i will treat
them one by one and each one will have some of this
nice meteorite.



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Re: [meteorite-list] In memory of Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Drake
I never knew Mr. Kriegh. I'm discovering that I wish I did. Anyone that can 
have so many nice things said about him must be an incredible person. The 
saddest thing is that most people don't say these things before they pass. 
Tell people how much they mean to you before it's too late.


I hope I can live up to the standards in life that will generate this level 
of appreciation when I'm gone.


God Speed Jim Kriegh.

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[meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread Greg Hupe

Dear List Members and meteorite fall detectives,

I received my Mali chondrites today and made some observations. I cut a 
stone each of Amgala, Bassikounou and this new Mali stone and polished the 
faces. I can say for certain the new material is NOT Bassikounou. Mali has 
much more chondrules than Bassikounou. I do not think it is Amgala either 
because Mali does not appear to be brecciated like Amgala. It certainly is 
not Zag. I think we have a new one here, now hopefully some eye witnesses 
will be found. Maybe our French friends are already on this??


Here are some photos for your own comparison:

Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg

Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg

Some Mali individuals:
601g, 60% primary, 40% secondary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc1.jpg
519g, 96% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc3.jpg
257g, 95% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc5.jpg
148g, 95% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc7.jpg
55g, stone cut in half, polished faces, was 50% primary crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc9.jpg

Let me know what you think.

Best regards,
Greg


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Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread Michael Farmer
Looks pretty darned identical to me, in every photo! 
I do not think it is paired, because Amgala has dried
up for some years.
Michael Farmer
--- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear List Members and meteorite fall detectives,
 
 I received my Mali chondrites today and made some
 observations. I cut a 
 stone each of Amgala, Bassikounou and this new
 Mali stone and polished the 
 faces. I can say for certain the new material is NOT
 Bassikounou. Mali has 
 much more chondrules than Bassikounou. I do not
 think it is Amgala either 
 because Mali does not appear to be brecciated like
 Amgala. It certainly is 
 not Zag. I think we have a new one here, now
 hopefully some eye witnesses 
 will be found. Maybe our French friends are already
 on this??
 
 Here are some photos for your own comparison:
 
 Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and
 Bassikounou:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg
 
 Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and
 Bassikounou:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg
 
 Some Mali individuals:
 601g, 60% primary, 40% secondary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc1.jpg
 519g, 96% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc3.jpg
 257g, 95% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc5.jpg
 148g, 95% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc7.jpg
 55g, stone cut in half, polished faces, was 50%
 primary crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc9.jpg
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
 Best regards,
 Greg
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread Greg Hupe

Hi Mike, List,

I would agree they look identical, but the differences under the microscope 
tell a lot more. I think it is different and believe it to be most likely an 
H3.


Best regards,
Greg


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- Original Message - 
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots



Looks pretty darned identical to me, in every photo!
I do not think it is paired, because Amgala has dried
up for some years.
Michael Farmer
--- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear List Members and meteorite fall detectives,

I received my Mali chondrites today and made some
observations. I cut a
stone each of Amgala, Bassikounou and this new
Mali stone and polished the
faces. I can say for certain the new material is NOT
Bassikounou. Mali has
much more chondrules than Bassikounou. I do not
think it is Amgala either
because Mali does not appear to be brecciated like
Amgala. It certainly is
not Zag. I think we have a new one here, now
hopefully some eye witnesses
will be found. Maybe our French friends are already
on this??

Here are some photos for your own comparison:

Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and
Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg

Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and
Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg

Some Mali individuals:
601g, 60% primary, 40% secondary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc1.jpg
519g, 96% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc3.jpg
257g, 95% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc5.jpg
148g, 95% primary fusion crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc7.jpg
55g, stone cut in half, polished faces, was 50%
primary crust:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc9.jpg

Let me know what you think.

Best regards,
Greg


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[meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh obituary today

2007-10-12 Thread Larry Twink Monrad




Tucson . com
obituaries

James Kriegh

Kriegh, James, 78, of Oro Valley, AZ passed away October 10, 2007.
He was preceded in death by his wife, Marjorie Kriegh and is
survived by children, Kevin Kriegh and Kathleen Buop; and
grandchildren, James A., Johnathon and Amanda Kriegh and Stephanie
and Sarah Buop. As a young baseball star, Jim signed a professional
contract. He later served in the US Army. Jim was Professor Emeritus
of Civil Engineering at the University of Arizona. He is considered
the Father of the Town of Oro Valley and was a former Oro Valley
Town Engineer and Councilman. In 1995 Jim discovered a
meteorite-strewn field in Northwest Arizona. He worked with the
University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary lab to document and study
it. Most recently, Jim founded the Oro Valley Historical Society and
was instrumental in having the town of Oro Valley acquire the Steam
Pump Ranch. A Memorial Service will be held at 11:00 a.m. on Sunday,
October 14, 2007 at the James D. Kriegh Park in Oro Valley. In lieu
of flowers, donations in Jim's name may be made to the Oro Valley
Historical Society, c/o 45 W. Calle Concordia, Oro Valley, AZ 85704.
Arrangements by ADAIR FUNERAL HOMES, Avalon Chapel, 8090 N. Northern
Avenue.

Published in Tucson on 10/12/2007.

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[meteorite-list] Fw: Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All!

Even though it's a sad event that keeps us posting at this moment,
I am absolutely sure that Jim would love to hear and read *this*
message below ... and God only knows maybe he even does!

Jim is the founding father of Oro Valley, the co-discoverer of the
famous Gold Basin meteorites (together with his dear friends Twink
and John Blennert) but here are now the heartfelt words of Joel
Schiff, the founding father of our METEORITE magazine. Thank
you, Joel, so very good to hear from you!

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-

Bernd, please post the following message for me on the meteorite-list:
 
I just heard the sad news of the passing of Jim Kriegh. I met him on a trip
to the Tucson show and remember his great warmth as a human being and
very generous nature. He was a meteorite hunter par excellence and the
entire meteorite community will miss him greatly. It was a privilege to have
known Jim and to have considered him a friend. My best wishes go to his
family, Joel Schiff

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, All,

The hot spot is technically a place where there is
more vulcanism that would be expected, usually a spot
that's not on a plate boundary but in the middle of a plate,
and produces way too much volcanic activity for that
location, or an unexplained elevation. One theory to account
for many hotspots is called the mantle plume theory.

They persist for geologically long times. Hawai'i is believed
to sit on a plume because of the chain of Emperor Seamounts
stretching on an arc to the NW. Active mantle plumes often
have caldera volcanoes atop them. Hawai'i is a low-silica
caldera, it's not as explosive and violent as the usual caldera
volcano. It considered a good case for the mantle plume
theory.

The Yellowstone Valley is not a valley; it's an ancient
high-silica caldera volcano. When Yellowstone Caldera (last)
erupted 640,000 years ago, it released 1,000 cubic kilometers
of material (800 times as much as the Mt. St. Helens eruption)
that covered all of North America in up to two meters of debris.
That plume is moving too, and will reach Iowa someday. I
predict Trouble, right here in River City (as the song goes).

Mantle plumes are believed to be produced by the interior
conditions at the core-mantle boundary and not by any exterior
event (like an impact). But at the same time, they are invoked to
explain flood basalt events (like the Deccan Traps or the Siberian
Traps), which out-do anything the worst volcano can do, and
only happen once every many tens of millions of years, and -- 
uh-oh! -- at the same time as really major impacts.

Not all geologists like the mantle plume theory, and meteorite
impacts is one of a number of alternative theories. That area
(Oregon) is home to considerable traces of a relatively recent flood
basalt event, the Columbia River Flood Basalt Province of Idaho,
Washington and Oregon: 
http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/north_america/crb.html
although the round feature is just outside the Province of those
flood basalts.

Check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotspot_%28geology%29
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_plume

One test of a crater is its relative depth. Others are
the lifted or up-turned rim, the presence of shatter-cones,
traces of an ejecta blanket, shocked rocks in the crater,
the presence of highly shocked minerals (coesite), signs
of a central uplift (if it's big enough to have one). And,
an impact that produced vulcanism would be obliterated
by the lavas it released, so proving that is kind of a problem.

Good hunting!


Sterling K. Webb
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Cool news ie. impact causing HOT SPOT. So Cool. If we generalize [which
I presume we must not without scientific data to support the supposition]
Yellowstone, Sunset Crater, etc. are all impact sites caused when the crust
was so deeply wounded the mantle material persists in melting whatever
crustal material attempts to scab the wound!
SUPER COOL!!
Jerry Flaherty
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Oregon


 Looks like something fun to check out either way.  I've been meaning to
 get over and explore that general area.  Of course it would have to be
 pretty obvious for me to notice anything :-)

 By the way, I have heard a theory that there was a large strike at some
 point in central Oregon causing a hot spot in the mantle (?) which has
 since migrated through the Snake River plain in southern Idaho and now
 lies beneath Yellowstone National Park resulting in all of the geothermal
 activity in that area.

 Thanks for sharing!

 Phil


 Interesting formation :

 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

 any ideas?

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[meteorite-list] Re-2: Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread bernd . pauli
Greg wrote:

.. the differences under the microscope tell a lot more. I
think it is different and believe it to be most likely an H3.

Hello Greg and List,

As so often before, pictures often speak more than a thousand
words and sometimes they speak much less than a thousand
words. Either way, chondrule size is also an important factor
but it's difficult to judge just by looking at the pictures. To me,
at least some of the chondrules *seem* to be large enough to
consider an L classification ... a heavily shock-darkened L3
(maybe L3.5) chondrite, and, if really brecciated, maybe L3
with L4 and/or L5 lithologies.

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread PolandMET

Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg

Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg


Hah Im confused now,
Comparing Aziz photos it looks like we speak on two different meteorites or 
Aziz should make them in day light.
On Aziz photos I see dark matrix and here Greg samples have normall light 
colored matrix.


Greg, can You make detailed photos of the matrix ? Macro photos ?

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[meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Cj ..

In the photo which was shown, if you look just to the SE of the 10km legend 
mark on the photo you will see 2 additional craters the one on the left of the 
photo being slightly higher. These 2 craters are Hole-In-The-Ground and Big 
Hole both are generally accepted as Maar craters from exploding volcanic gas. 
Both craters lie on the shore of an ancient lake. I would venture to guess this 
is one of those ancient lakes. If you use Google Earth and look at this 
structure you will see what appears to be secondary craters within the 
structure. As I personally have not been out there yet, I am not ruling out the 
possibility of an impact crater though is seems somewhat unlikely. 


Cj Lebel

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[meteorite-list] Tribute by Dolores Hill to Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Larry Twink Monrad




Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:23:54 -0700
From: D. Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Larry  Twink Monrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: condolences to you and Jim's family

Dear Meteorite_List, friends, and family of Jim Kriegh,

I am so sorry to hear of Jim's passing.  He was a wonderful person 
who will be greatly missed by many.  We were especially fortunate 
here at the University of Arizona to have had the pleasure of his 
kindly presence and support.  I feel personally fortunate to have 
met him and always enjoyed his enthusiasm and visits.


The Gold Basin meteorite strewnfield is one of the most 
well-documented strewnfields known, because of Jim Kriegh and team's 
care, patience, and perseverance.  It is hard to imagine that it is 
only one of many important contributions he made in his lifetime. 
Jim was unusually humble!  In addition to his many accomplishments, 
he was extremely kind to all and very generous with his time, 
samples, and expertise.  He always had a smile, never stopped 
learning, and had good will and gentle nature for all.  He will be 
greatly missed!


With sincere condolences to all who knew him,
Dolores H. Hill
Lunar  Planetary Laboratory
University of Arizona


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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

A kind of footnote to my previous Post:
the elevations of the round feature are highly
inconsistent. Much of the rim is hundreds of
feet lower than the highest spot inside the rim,
and almost none of the rim is higher than the
interior.

The rim is higher than the surrounding general
terrain in most places. The rim has a braided topography,
another un-crater-like feature and it seems that the
feature is elevated as a whole above the surrounding
terrain, not a likely thing for a crater to be.

The center of the crater has both high and
low areas close to each other. The elevations are
complex and hard to interpret. The closer I zoom
in, the less like a relict crater it looks to me.


Sterling K. Webb
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Looks like something fun to check out either way.  I've been meaning to
get over and explore that general area.  Of course it would have to be
pretty obvious for me to notice anything :-)

By the way, I have heard a theory that there was a large strike at some
point in central Oregon causing a hot spot in the mantle (?) which has
since migrated through the Snake River plain in southern Idaho and now
lies beneath Yellowstone National Park resulting in all of the geothermal
activity in that area.

Thanks for sharing!

Phil


 Interesting formation :

 http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976

 any ideas?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big bolide over Algarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread Armando Afonso

Bah!
With this trajectory,  probably it was only an other nwa ( no pedigree) 
flying to the desert.

Someone have to teach this stones the right place to fall on.
:)
Armando

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Algarve, Portugal




Ohhh, I would love a trip back to Portugal, very nice
place, Albufiera was wonderful.
Michael Farmer
--- Armando Afonso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Does anyone on the list knows something about the
bolide reported yesterday
in the south of Portugal?
Refered was an angular altitude of the point of
extinction of aprox. 15º ,
and west to east trajectory.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread JKGwilliam
Comparing pictures of meteorites taken with two different digital 
cameras and then processed by two different people is a very dicey 
thing.  Basics like exposure and lighting can result in visible 
differences.  Different white balance choices will show dramatic 
differences.  I know Greg has the proper skills to decide if the 
meteorite samples are different from his know specimens.  The rest of 
us might have to wait a while to make actual hands on comparisons 
to see the differences for ourselves.


Best,
John
At 04:34 PM 10/12/2007, PolandMET wrote:

Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg

Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and Bassikounou:
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg


Hah Im confused now,
Comparing Aziz photos it looks like we speak on two different 
meteorites or Aziz should make them in day light.
On Aziz photos I see dark matrix and here Greg samples have normall 
light colored matrix.


Greg, can You make detailed photos of the matrix ? Macro photos ?

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Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big bolide overAlgarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread PolandMET

Bah!
With this trajectory,  probably it was only an other nwa ( no pedigree) 
flying to the desert.

Someone have to teach this stones the right place to fall on.
:)
Armando

Yep, right
My garden is prepared from years, grass alvays cut low.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big bolideoverAlgarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread Martin Altmann
So drape some garden gnomes around on the always low cut grass,
Captain Blood is paying good for his beloved hammers!

And if you carve the garden gnomes from NWA-meteorites before, he will pay
you a fortune. 

Go to bed, you're working to much.

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An: Armando Afonso; Michael Farmer; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green big
bolideoverAlgarve, Portugal


Yep, right
My garden is prepared from years, grass alvays cut low.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Low altitude ed and green bigbolideoverAlgarve, Portugal

2007-10-12 Thread PolandMET

So drape some garden gnomes around on the always low cut grass,
Captain Blood is paying good for his beloved hammers!

And if you carve the garden gnomes from NWA-meteorites before, he will pay
you a fortune. 


Go to bed, you're working to much.

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Im not working, Im waiting for the sunrise :)
nite all

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Re: [meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Robert Woolard
List,

  I am honored to say that I did have the chance, and
the privilege, to meet Jim at least one time during a
Tucson show. I am sad that it was only once. Actually,
I have met MANY nice people because of our shared
hobby, and made many new friends. BUT. when I read
such incredibly nice things, written by these same new
friends, it is indeed a powerful testament to the
depth of Jim's character. He truly was a gem of a man.

  Sincerely,
  Robert Woolard 

 






  

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[meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh Gold Basin 2001

2007-10-12 Thread Larry Twink Monrad

http://www.spacerocksinc.com/Jim-Kriegh-GB.htmlhttp://www.spacerocksinc.com/Jim-Kriegh-GB.html

Gold Basin Photo Page prepared by
Michael Johnson
http://www.spacerocksinc.com/www.spacerocksinc.com
www.sikhote-alin.org

Regards,
Larry and TWink



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Re: [meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh +

2007-10-12 Thread Ed Deckert
Unfortunately, I am a relatively new member of the meteorite community and 
did not have the privilege of knowing Jim.


I did read Jim's interview from the Meteorite Times.  It is only through 
that article, and the wonderful emails sent to the list by everyone that I 
now have a sense of what I missed by not having not known him.


I wish to express my heartfelt sympathy to Jim's family and his friends for 
their loss.


Ed

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh +



With tears in my eyes do I have to tell you that

+ + + Jim Kriegh + + +

* * * co-discoverer of the Gold Basin strewnfield * * *

one the most prolific meteorite collectors within the
meteorite-collecting community passed away in hospital
last night after a massive heart attack.

May he rest in peace!

Good-bye, Jim!

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[meteorite-list] Jim Kriegh

2007-10-12 Thread Rob Wesel

I was lucky enough to run into Jim a few times over the years.

One can look at the likes of Jim Krieg, or Twink, or Larry Sloan and truly 
believe one is only as old as one feels.


We are better for the life he lived and I will miss not running into him 
again.


Rob Wesel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular Structure Near Chemult, Oregon

2007-10-12 Thread Thaddeus Besedin
 
I'm downloading DOQQ and DEM data from the USGS
seamless server (I was going to make some 3D images of
Mt. Hood for a friend anyway). I'll try to post links
to my images, including a simple profile analysis and
vertically exaggerated 3D images. I hope that the data
is available in 1/3-arc second resolution. At 3-arc
second resolution, the structure does have a prominent
sidewall, but is still, according to a lithological
GIS layer I have currently loaded, within the
boundaries of mafic volcanic flow, e.g. basalts, and
not material associated with pyroclastic, siliceous
lavas (dacite, andesite) that form the Cascade
stratovolcanoes. Mt. Mazama, the name given to the
former stratovolcano that currently we call crater
lake, was radically altered by its last major
eruption, 7,627 BP
(http://geology.geoscienceworld.org/cgi/content/abstract/27/7/621).
Its tephra layer is an important chronological
constraint in geochronology and in archaeology, and is
present in various thicknesses (following monotonic
decrement, but distributed much more extensively NNE)
from Northern California to Saskatchewan to Montana.
... off to work.
Thaddeus --- Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cool news ie. impact causing HOT SPOT. So Cool.
 If we generalize [which 
 I presume we must not without scientific data to
 support the supposition] 
 Yellowstone, Sunset Crater, etc. are all impact
 sites caused when the crust 
 was so deeply wounded the mantle material persists
 in melting whatever 
 crustal material attempts to scab the wound!
 SUPER COOL!!
 Jerry Flaherty
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 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 5:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mysterious Circular
 Structure Near Chemult, 
 Oregon
 
 
  Looks like something fun to check out either way. 
 I've been meaning to
  get over and explore that general area.  Of course
 it would have to be
  pretty obvious for me to notice anything :-)
 
  By the way, I have heard a theory that there was a
 large strike at some
  point in central Oregon causing a hot spot in
 the mantle (?) which has
  since migrated through the Snake River plain in
 southern Idaho and now
  lies beneath Yellowstone National Park resulting
 in all of the geothermal
  activity in that area.
 
  Thanks for sharing!
 
  Phil
 
 
  Interesting formation :
 
 

http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.php3?oid=382976
 
  any ideas?
 
  Stefan
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Re: [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots

2007-10-12 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Depend from where you cut, if I show you a piece I have for
sale its paired to your piece
http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc9.jpg in the
matrix, metal,  breccia  and weathering.

Matteo


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Da : Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Maili Chondrite Phots
Data : Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:04:10 -0400

 Dear List Members and meteorite fall detectives,
 
 I received my Mali chondrites today and made some
 observations. I cut a  stone each of Amgala, Bassikounou
 and this new Mali stone and polished the  faces. I can
 say for certain the new material is NOT Bassikounou.
 Mali has  much more chondrules than Bassikounou. I do
 not think it is Amgala either  because Mali does not
 appear to be brecciated like Amgala. It certainly is  not
 Zag. I think we have a new one here, now hopefully some
 eye witnesses  will be found. Maybe our French friends are
 already on this??
 
 Here are some photos for your own comparison:
 
 Photo showing metal comparison of Amgala, Mali and
 Bassikounou:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00010.jpg
 
 Photo showing matrix comparison of Amgala, Mali and
 Bassikounou:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc00011.jpg
 
 Some Mali individuals:
 601g, 60% primary, 40% secondary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc1.jpg
 519g, 96% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc3.jpg
 257g, 95% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc5.jpg
 148g, 95% primary fusion crust:
 http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc7.jpg
 55g, stone cut in half, polished faces, was 50% primary
 crust: http://www.lunarrock.com/hchondrites/dsc9.jpg
 
 Let me know what you think.
 
 Best regards,
 Greg
 
 
 Greg Hupe
 The Hupe Collection
 NaturesVault (eBay)
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 www.LunarRock.com
 IMCA 3163
 
 
 
 
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