[meteorite-list] AD: Meteorite now in over 65 languages

2007-11-09 Thread drtanuki
Hello List,

  The list of languages and words for meteorite has
been updated to include more than 65 languages.  Thank
you to all on the list that have contributed; their
names and credits are at the bottom of the webpage.

http://meteoritesjapan.com/metdict.aspx

  If anyone has more words to add or corrections
please let me know and additions will be added. This
is a work in progress so there are errors and will
continued to be updated and corrected as time permits.

 Anyone with Native American words for meteorites?

  If you wish to add a link in your webpage to this
webpage please let me know and I will add a cross-link
on my webpage.

  Thank you all in advance.
Best Regards,
Dirk Ross...Tokyo

www.MeteoriteJapan.com

www. InsekiJapan.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

2007-11-09 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear Doug,

a really excellent synopsis!

Some illustrations:

Here we have the monument in Dacice, commemorating the production of the
first sugar cube:
http://www.zuckersammler.de/gfx/tauschtage/dacice_03_01.jpg

A pilgrimage site for sugar cube fanatics from all over the World.
These first produced cubes became popular as Viennese Sugar Cubes (Wiener
Würfelzucker).

Sugar cubes are an important field of private collecting,
The number of collectors worldwide is estimated to exceed 2 million
individuals, - compare to the 1000-2000 meteorite collectors in existence;
the largest collections unite up to 150,000 specimens and locales.

Indeed, as you presumed, the today's brand: Diamant-Zucker is still in the
possession of the descendants of Eugen Langen, who improved 1870 the T cube
production with his Langen'schen Würfelverfahren (and designed btw the
Wuppertal Schwebebahn, the Steel Dragon). In dissociation to the Viennese
Cube, he named his cubes Cologne Cubes.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/eb/Eugen-langen.jpg

Today the Viennese Cubes are still a standard unit to visualize the sugar
content of food and drinks in an equipollent of sugar cubes. (1 can of Coke 
contains 13 sugar cubes).

The weight of the Viennese Cube in that case is 3.7 grams.
(See also your 3.6grams of CH and Dixie Crystals cubes).

Unfortunately I couldn't find the edge length of the Viennese standard cube
(The Viennese Ur-cube was caramelized by the marauding mob during the
Viennese October Revolt in 1848)

From an unsecured source I read, that Diamant-Zucker, therefore the founders
of the Cologne cube, is selling nowadays cuboids of roughly 1cm x 2cm x 2cm
with a weight of 2grams (or so) as standard, hence half cubes.

Here we have a painting, depicting Howard experimentalizing the ablation of
meteorites while their fiery descents and the forming of flight-oriented
shapes by dint of sugar.
http://www.elvis-paintings.de/gfx/bilder/celebrity_art_ruehmann.jpg


Here a modern construction of the test arrangement 
http://www.issuemanagement.de/images/feuerzangenbowle.jpg

Side-product was the conical sugar loaf:
http://home.clara.net/mawer/image-sugarloaf2.jpg

but that's another chapter, Sugar...

Best!
Martin




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Cc: Martin Altmann
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

Dear List,

Hmmm.  Very meteorite related!  Now for a fun post.  Great history on the 
Scale Cube, Svend, and thanks Mike for the additional information!  Given 
all the interest in scale cubes, I've compiled a history of the scale cube 
prior to the ones developed by the Russians and NASA (it is below my answer 
to Martin's question).  There wasn't much info available on your sites about

what was used before NASA, except the cube that Mike Jensen kindly posted 
regarding Haro's Heros.  These cubes are definitely related to meteorites, 
more than many will probably even know.

But first: Martin foreshadowed:
(are sugar-cubes in USA metric?)

No, they are not, unless you measure them with  a centimeter ruler :-)  In 
the US they are actually certified scale cubes. They are loosely 1/2 or 1 
Tea-spoon amounts of sugar, which scale to one cup of Tea.  I don't think 
the ones in Europe are a centimeter cubed either, for that matter, are they?

That would be a real diet lite cube being just 0.8 to 1.1 grams...  Now a 
question for you: German Zuckerwürfels aren't even cubes, are they?  and how

many/what dimensions are in a 500g box that sells for under what $2 ( In the

US sugar cubes are one cent each.)? 
http://www.wopping.com/images/product/1483.jpg . Maybe at least Diamant 
Würfelzuckers (which have a pedigree back to Langen)?

About the original scale cube.  These were actually first crystallized as T

Cubes or Tea Cubes, and they were literally covered in Tea that was 
underlied with a saucer.  By Victorian times they were the de facto scale 
cube of choice in Europe to measure size.  The material of construction was,

in fact, sugar.  The first application was a non-hazardous fixed aliquot of 
sugar for a nice cup of tea.  But I am getting ahead of myself...

Sugar was introduced by conquering Moroccans into Europe during the conquest

of Spain in about 800 AD.  Christopher Columbus had an steamy affair with 
Beatriz in the Canary Islands on the way to discover the Americas and 
delayed continuing on the maiden voyage a month so he could romantically 
take some of here sugarcane, which he brought to the new world with him to 
remember her.  (Columbus was a sugar broker in Genoa.)

However, for the first ~1500 years, the process to make sugar didn't lend to

cube-making due to all the sticky and wasted carmel produced in the boiling 
kettles as syrup was concentrated.

This all changed when the first prototype modern sugar cubes were reputedly 
invented by 

Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

2007-11-09 Thread Matthias Bärmann
of course, martin.and here we have a monument, celebrating the synthesis of 
wuerfelzucker  fusion crust:


http://www.welt.de/multimedia/archive/00194/Gregor-Schneider_DW_194337g.jpg



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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family


Dear Doug,

a really excellent synopsis!

Some illustrations:

Here we have the monument in Dacice, commemorating the production of the
first sugar cube:
http://www.zuckersammler.de/gfx/tauschtage/dacice_03_01.jpg

A pilgrimage site for sugar cube fanatics from all over the World.
These first produced cubes became popular as Viennese Sugar Cubes (Wiener
Würfelzucker).

Sugar cubes are an important field of private collecting,
The number of collectors worldwide is estimated to exceed 2 million
individuals, - compare to the 1000-2000 meteorite collectors in existence;
the largest collections unite up to 150,000 specimens and locales.

Indeed, as you presumed, the today's brand: Diamant-Zucker is still in the
possession of the descendants of Eugen Langen, who improved 1870 the T cube
production with his Langen'schen Würfelverfahren (and designed btw the
Wuppertal Schwebebahn, the Steel Dragon). In dissociation to the Viennese
Cube, he named his cubes Cologne Cubes.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/eb/Eugen-langen.jpg

Today the Viennese Cubes are still a standard unit to visualize the sugar
content of food and drinks in an equipollent of sugar cubes. (1 can of Coke
contains 13 sugar cubes).

The weight of the Viennese Cube in that case is 3.7 grams.
(See also your 3.6grams of CH and Dixie Crystals cubes).

Unfortunately I couldn't find the edge length of the Viennese standard cube
(The Viennese Ur-cube was caramelized by the marauding mob during the
Viennese October Revolt in 1848)

From an unsecured source I read, that Diamant-Zucker, therefore the 
founders

of the Cologne cube, is selling nowadays cuboids of roughly 1cm x 2cm x 2cm
with a weight of 2grams (or so) as standard, hence half cubes.

Here we have a painting, depicting Howard experimentalizing the ablation of
meteorites while their fiery descents and the forming of flight-oriented
shapes by dint of sugar.
http://www.elvis-paintings.de/gfx/bilder/celebrity_art_ruehmann.jpg


Here a modern construction of the test arrangement
http://www.issuemanagement.de/images/feuerzangenbowle.jpg

Side-product was the conical sugar loaf:
http://home.clara.net/mawer/image-sugarloaf2.jpg

but that's another chapter, Sugar...

Best!
Martin




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Cc: Martin Altmann
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Scalecube Family

Dear List,

Hmmm.  Very meteorite related!  Now for a fun post.  Great history on the
Scale Cube, Svend, and thanks Mike for the additional information!  Given
all the interest in scale cubes, I've compiled a history of the scale cube
prior to the ones developed by the Russians and NASA (it is below my answer
to Martin's question).  There wasn't much info available on your sites about

what was used before NASA, except the cube that Mike Jensen kindly posted
regarding Haro's Heros.  These cubes are definitely related to meteorites,
more than many will probably even know.

But first: Martin foreshadowed:
(are sugar-cubes in USA metric?)

No, they are not, unless you measure them with  a centimeter ruler :-)  In
the US they are actually certified scale cubes. They are loosely 1/2 or 1
Tea-spoon amounts of sugar, which scale to one cup of Tea.  I don't think
the ones in Europe are a centimeter cubed either, for that matter, are they?

That would be a real diet lite cube being just 0.8 to 1.1 grams...  Now a
question for you: German Zuckerwürfels aren't even cubes, are they?  and how

many/what dimensions are in a 500g box that sells for under what $2 ( In the

US sugar cubes are one cent each.)?
http://www.wopping.com/images/product/1483.jpg . Maybe at least Diamant
Würfelzuckers (which have a pedigree back to Langen)?

About the original scale cube.  These were actually first crystallized as T

Cubes or Tea Cubes, and they were literally covered in Tea that was
underlied with a saucer.  By Victorian times they were the de facto scale
cube of choice in Europe to measure size.  The material of construction was,

in fact, sugar.  The first application was a non-hazardous fixed aliquot of
sugar for a nice cup of tea.  But I am getting ahead of myself...

Sugar was introduced by conquering Moroccans into Europe during the conquest

of Spain in about 800 AD.  Christopher Columbus had an steamy affair with
Beatriz in the Canary Islands on the way to discover the Americas and
delayed continuing on the maiden voyage a month so he could romantically
take some of 

[meteorite-list] Post-Cretaceous/Tertiary Impact Ammonites Found in New Jersey

2007-11-09 Thread Paul
Rethinking What Caused the Last Mass Extinction
by John Noble Wilford, November 6, 2007, New
York Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/science/06fossil.html?ref=science

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/06/science/06fossil.html?pagewanted=1ei=5070en=4d31bafcd36b6bfbex=1195016400emc=eta1

“On previous visits, they had found in the Pinna
rock and soil a surprising number of marine fossils,
including small clams, crabs and sea urchins. There
was an abundance of ammonites, considered index
organisms of the uppermost Cretaceous
environment. Somehow, here at least, life appeared
to have not only persisted but also flourished for
tens, perhaps hundreds, of years after the putative
asteroid impact.”

Yours,

Paul H.



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[meteorite-list] WHITES METAL DETECTORS FOR SALE

2007-11-09 Thread Ruben Garcia
If you need a detector I have one or two for sale.


Whites Gold Master 2 = $250.00
Whites Gold Master Vsat = $300.00
Whites Gold Master 3 = $375.00

I have found irons/ pallasites and chondrites with
these. They're all highly used but in great working
condition. 



Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
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[meteorite-list] chondrule color variation

2007-11-09 Thread steve arnold
Good morning list.A question that has had me puzzled
for along time has been,what causes chondrules to
become the color's they do.I have seen black,white
grey,and even some multi-color ones like chondrule
conglomerate.What is the scientific principle behind this.

Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!!
   The Asteroid Belt!
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[meteorite-list] AD Iridium rich K/T layer 5 / 7 locality

2007-11-09 Thread andi
Hi List,

for the collectors of impactites and impact related stuff I would like to offer 
two kinds of iridium rich K/T layer sets. 
Around 4.5g each locality .

first set contains 7 locality , there are : 

Stevens Klint / Denmark the type locality 
Geulhelm / Netherlands a location in a cave 
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~smit/geulhemmerberg/geulhemgrotpanorama/geul.html
Hieflau / Austria
Trochu / Canada  top scollard formation
http://www.ags.gov.ab.ca/GRAPHICS/CBM/CBM_intro/Coal_CBM_Potential_large.jpg
Bidart / France
Agost / Spain
Trinidad State Park / USA Raton Basin formation

just two sets available  price 60$  www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/KTset7.jpg

second set 5 locations , there are :

Stevens Klint / Denmark the type locality 
Geulhelm / Netherlands a location in a cave 
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~smit/geulhemmerberg/geulhemgrotpanorama/geul.html
Red Deer River / Canada top scollard formation 
http://www3.baylor.edu/~Stacy_Atchley/paleosol%20site.htm
Bidart / France
Agost / Spain

price is 45$  www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/KTset5.jpg

please ad 5$ for shipping worldwide.

Thanks for interest
Best Regards

Andi

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[meteorite-list] AD Iridium rich K/T layer 5 / 7 locality

2007-11-09 Thread PolandMET


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Subject: [meteorite-list] AD Iridium rich K/T layer 5 / 7 locality



Hi List,

for the collectors of impactites and impact related stuff I would like to 
offer two kinds of iridium rich K/T layer sets.

Around 4.5g each locality .

first set contains 7 locality , there are :

Stevens Klint / Denmark the type locality
Geulhelm / Netherlands a location in a cave 
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~smit/geulhemmerberg/geulhemgrotpanorama/geul.html

Hieflau / Austria
Trochu / Canada  top scollard formation
http://www.ags.gov.ab.ca/GRAPHICS/CBM/CBM_intro/Coal_CBM_Potential_large.jpg
Bidart / France
Agost / Spain
Trinidad State Park / USA Raton Basin formation

just two sets available  price 60$  www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/KTset7.jpg

second set 5 locations , there are :

Stevens Klint / Denmark the type locality
Geulhelm / Netherlands a location in a cave 
http://www.geo.vu.nl/~smit/geulhemmerberg/geulhemgrotpanorama/geul.html
Red Deer River / Canada top scollard formation 
http://www3.baylor.edu/~Stacy_Atchley/paleosol%20site.htm

Bidart / France
Agost / Spain

price is 45$  www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/KTset5.jpg

please ad 5$ for shipping worldwide.

Thanks for interest
Best Regards

Andi

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Re: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a topic today

2007-11-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

Matthias said the introduction of the scalecube
into the natural scene is the insertion of the Absolute,
the Platonic Ideal. Yes, true, and, as such, tells us so
much more about the beings making the photograph
than it does about the object being photographed.

As for using scalecubes as a basis for measuration,
you can utilize an existing arsenal of projective geometric
calculation in a pinch. But, if what you wanted from the
start was measurement, you would photograph everything
by placing it inside a half cube -- floor, back, and side -- 
that was white and gridded off in your choice of units
(centimeters, inches, or the 60th part of a Babylonian
cubit), and shooting it at different orientations (6). It
would then be medium easy to use a computer algorithm
that would convert the images to measurements or a 3D
model in a few teraflops.

This is what should be done with meteorites (and
Moon Rocks, and pieces of UFO's if you got'em).
Then, instead of pictures of the Meteorite of the Day,
we would have the virtual object of the Meteorite of
the Day. It wouldn't be scientifically useless to be doing
that with important pieces even today.

Maybe, scalecubes are just more Fun? Cooler?


Sterling K. Webb
---
- Original Message - 
From: David  Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:19 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a topic today


I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Another hobby I have is making replicas of props from various science
fiction movies

I have used photos to reverse engineer parts and have done so with amazing
accuracy

A perfect example is an MG-81 Flash Hider/ Booster that was use on Han
Solo's Blaster from Star Wars.

This part went unidentified for 26 years but I and a small group of
hobbyists created and manufactured replica of this part from the various
available photos.

About 3 years ago, it was finally identified and a mint specimen was found
and borrowed, they have a value of about $3000 so we were lucky the guy let
use it.

To even my own surprise my Flash Hider was surprisingly accurate to the real
thing.

Here is a picture, the real prop is on top and my replica is on the bottom

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Flashhiders.jpg

Bear in mind that this is just one image of a single prop, they used a
variety of props and each had variances in the parts. For instance in the
above picture the holes are look smaller but there are other pictures that
they look bigger.

However, when I compared my replica to a real MG-81 Flash Hider most of my
measurements were off by less then .005 of an inch which is pretty good.



-


Hi, All

Measurement from a photo with a scalecube in it is impossible except in the
case of a very elaborate photo setup designed to make such measurements
possible and even then, the precision is low. aying

Sterling K. Webb


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Re: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a topic today

2007-11-09 Thread Delbert Waterbury
Yeah I guess it would be nice to have a 3D laser
scanning machine to scan all my meteorites into.
However I don't have a few hundred thousand dollars
(or maybe millions) to spend right now on something
like this. So I'll have to settle for the next best
thing (and the cheapest) using my very own scale cube
I paid 25 bucks for.

Either way, I think the scale cube is excellent for
figuring out the general size of an object in a
photograph. It's better than using a coin because you
get that third dimension that coins lack. 

Del


--- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Matthias said the introduction of the scalecube
 into the natural scene is the insertion of the
 Absolute,
 the Platonic Ideal. Yes, true, and, as such, tells
 us so
 much more about the beings making the photograph
 than it does about the object being photographed.
 
 As for using scalecubes as a basis for
 measuration,
 you can utilize an existing arsenal of projective
 geometric
 calculation in a pinch. But, if what you wanted from
 the
 start was measurement, you would photograph
 everything
 by placing it inside a half cube -- floor, back, and
 side -- 
 that was white and gridded off in your choice of
 units
 (centimeters, inches, or the 60th part of a
 Babylonian
 cubit), and shooting it at different orientations
 (6). It
 would then be medium easy to use a computer
 algorithm
 that would convert the images to measurements or a
 3D
 model in a few teraflops.
 
 This is what should be done with meteorites (and
 Moon Rocks, and pieces of UFO's if you got'em).
 Then, instead of pictures of the Meteorite of the
 Day,
 we would have the virtual object of the Meteorite of
 the Day. It wouldn't be scientifically useless to be
 doing
 that with important pieces even today.
 
 Maybe, scalecubes are just more Fun? Cooler?
 
 
 Sterling K. Webb

---
 - Original Message - 
 From: David  Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:19 PM
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a
 topic today
 
 
 I'm going to have to disagree with you.
 
 Another hobby I have is making replicas of props
 from various science
 fiction movies
 
 I have used photos to reverse engineer parts and
 have done so with amazing
 accuracy
 
 A perfect example is an MG-81 Flash Hider/ Booster
 that was use on Han
 Solo's Blaster from Star Wars.
 
 This part went unidentified for 26 years but I and a
 small group of
 hobbyists created and manufactured replica of this
 part from the various
 available photos.
 
 About 3 years ago, it was finally identified and a
 mint specimen was found
 and borrowed, they have a value of about $3000 so we
 were lucky the guy let
 use it.
 
 To even my own surprise my Flash Hider was
 surprisingly accurate to the real
 thing.
 
 Here is a picture, the real prop is on top and my
 replica is on the bottom
 

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Flashhiders.jpg
 
 Bear in mind that this is just one image of a single
 prop, they used a
 variety of props and each had variances in the
 parts. For instance in the
 above picture the holes are look smaller but there
 are other pictures that
 they look bigger.
 
 However, when I compared my replica to a real MG-81
 Flash Hider most of my
 measurements were off by less then .005 of an inch
 which is pretty good.
 
 
 

-
 
 
 Hi, All
 
 Measurement from a photo with a scalecube in it is
 impossible except in the
 case of a very elaborate photo setup designed to
 make such measurements
 possible and even then, the precision is low. aying
 
 Sterling K. Webb
 
 

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[meteorite-list] Thin Section Box by PolandMET

2007-11-09 Thread PolandMET

Hi
I like build different things, especialy when I think out new project.
This time I want present easy to use, field use recomended box for see thin 
section in cross polarized light.

You need only loupe, light and thin section :)

step 1
First of all, we need to buy one thin section box from Jensen Meteorites
http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/supplies.htm
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts1.jpg
They are perfect for storage thin section except one thing. Designer forgot 
about any corner or something else for our fingers that let us to open this 
box. New boxes are impossible to open without help of knife or other tool.


Step2
So first thing we need to do is take top of this box and polish, using pile 
tool, two shorter edges of box on angle 45*. When we do this and close box 
we will have space for our finger nail that let us open box. It also 
necessary to do this on all boxes we use to store our thin sections. I have 
made this on my 100 boxes and its much easer to open them, and it cost less 
stress when inside is expensive thin section and box dont want let us to 
open it.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts2.jpg

Step3
Now is time to cut square hole in both halfs of TS box. Hole must have size 
similar to the size of meteorite in standard thin section. Dont make too big 
hole becouse box can be broken while preparing it or later.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts3.jpg.

Step4
Now we must polish edges of our new hole. Make sure hole size is similar in 
both half's of TS Box.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts4.jpg

Step5
Now I make small holes on surface of box on all sides to make it more stable 
when we hold it. Box is very flat and extreme smooth and it like to fly out 
of your hands, especially when inside is thin section worth few hundreds of 
$$$. Remember Murphy Law's !

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts5a.jpg
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts5b.jpg

Step6
Now we buy polarize filter from www.3dlens.com (I purchased A4 size). We cut 
two square samples that will fit inside of each half of TS Box. REMEMBER to 
cut them in 90* angle to each other. When You put them together You must see 
nothing through them. If they will become black, then they are in cross 
position.
Prepare glue for glass/plexiglass/plastic and small sponge 2-3mm thin. Put 
some glue inside of each half of TS Box and put there filters. REMEMBER to 
remove folio layer from both sides of polarize filter before You will glue 
them with TS Box. When You put filters inside box, close it WITH sponge 
inside. It will make good connection beeween box and polarize filter while 
glue become dry.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts6.jpg

Step7
If You not glued two halfs of TS Box together , then You will be able to 
open it after several minutes. My box looks like this. Pretty funny but 
extremelly usefull.

http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts7.jpg

Step8 finito
Now crash test :)
Pretty easy to use everywhere. In Tucson show or in desert of Oman. Its 
undetectable by metal detectors, so You can take it to the plane without 
risk. Police dogs from drugs section will also not find my TSBox :)

It take a hour to do my TSBox.
http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts8.jpg

Have Fun !

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Re: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a topic today

2007-11-09 Thread Martin Altmann
Maybe, scalecubes are just more Fun?

No, they are a simple clue for the beholder to estimate the size of the
pictured stone.
If any reference is missing, one couldn't judge whether the meteorite has
the size of an egg or a basketball.

If you put a Tim Heitz on top of the Campo main mass, although we all might
have the same concepts of a man,  it will look less impressive as if you
would let a Marcin Cimala sit on it.


If I make a picture with my cat and the meteorite, the meteorite will look
larger, as if Anne Black would use her cat for the same stone, as her cat is
larger than mine.

A quarter or a dime as scale hasn't anybody around the globe always at hand.
Matches and their boxes are produced in many different sizes, the non-smoker
hasn't any in the pocket, the smoker often a lighter.

Therefore one need a uniform mean of scale, which all understand and could
imagine or at leat be able to reproduce in a way.
That's the scale cube, not more, but also not less. Quite trivial.
You may now speculate, in how far the individual concept or imagination of
such a scale cube on a picture, will converge with a  cubic centimetre in
reality, but as a rough indication, how small or large a stone might be,
it's o.k.

Let's say it different, if in the scene in the movie, where King Kong fights
in 1933 with a dinosaur a scale cube would have been hidden, the spectators
wouldn't have been so scared...

And remember a picture often comes not alone.
If you have a set, a series of pictures with different meteorites, but
always a cube included, the beholder can use the pictured cube as tertium
comparationis,
therefore he can judge much more better the sizes of the stones relatively
to each other. - see e.g. Twelker's homepage
and if he has such a cube at home, then..

Well, of course other scale items, if widely known, could be used,
but such a cube with it's letter makes certainly more scientific impression.

Best!
Martin



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K. Webb
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An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: David  Kitt Deyarmin; Drake
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Since Scale Cubes are a topic today

Hi,

Matthias said the introduction of the scalecube
into the natural scene is the insertion of the Absolute,
the Platonic Ideal. Yes, true, and, as such, tells us so
much more about the beings making the photograph
than it does about the object being photographed.

As for using scalecubes as a basis for measuration,
you can utilize an existing arsenal of projective geometric
calculation in a pinch. But, if what you wanted from the
start was measurement, you would photograph everything
by placing it inside a half cube -- floor, back, and side -- 
that was white and gridded off in your choice of units
(centimeters, inches, or the 60th part of a Babylonian
cubit), and shooting it at different orientations (6). It
would then be medium easy to use a computer algorithm
that would convert the images to measurements or a 3D
model in a few teraflops.

This is what should be done with meteorites (and
Moon Rocks, and pieces of UFO's if you got'em).
Then, instead of pictures of the Meteorite of the Day,
we would have the virtual object of the Meteorite of
the Day. It wouldn't be scientifically useless to be doing
that with important pieces even today.

Maybe, scalecubes are just more Fun? Cooler?


Sterling K. Webb
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Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:19 PM
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I'm going to have to disagree with you.

Another hobby I have is making replicas of props from various science
fiction movies

I have used photos to reverse engineer parts and have done so with amazing
accuracy

A perfect example is an MG-81 Flash Hider/ Booster that was use on Han
Solo's Blaster from Star Wars.

This part went unidentified for 26 years but I and a small group of
hobbyists created and manufactured replica of this part from the various
available photos.

About 3 years ago, it was finally identified and a mint specimen was found
and borrowed, they have a value of about $3000 so we were lucky the guy let
use it.

To even my own surprise my Flash Hider was surprisingly accurate to the real
thing.

Here is a picture, the real prop is on top and my replica is on the bottom

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Flashhiders.jpg

Bear in mind that this is just one image of a single prop, they used a
variety of props and each had variances in the parts. For instance in the
above picture the holes are look smaller but there are other pictures that
they look bigger.

However, when I compared my replica to a real MG-81 Flash Hider most of my
measurements were off by less then .005 of 

Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?

2007-11-09 Thread lebofsky
Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth (that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
 To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

 2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
 bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
 1/3 that
 size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
 the
 size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
 year,
 and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
 about
 once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
 that we
 saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
 that we
 expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
 once in 20
 years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
 fact that
 it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
 Richard
 Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

 Cheers,

 Alan

 P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
 will be a
 real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
 enough, but
 really truckin'.

 At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
 Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...
 
 http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html
 
 The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 Earth
 radii) on Nov 13.844 UT
 
 just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162, but
 this time we have 5 days lead time.
 
 Peter


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 Space Science Institute
 4603 Orange Knoll Ave. Phone: 818-790-8291
 La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?

2007-11-09 Thread Spaceguard
Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist fly-by 
of the Earth.


Jay Tate
The Spaceguard Centre

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth (that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

Begin forwarded message:


From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the
size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
year,
and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
about
once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
that we
saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
that we
expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
once in 20
years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
fact that
it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a
real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
enough, but
really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html

The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 Earth
radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162, but
this time we have 5 days lead time.

Peter




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Space Science Institute
4603 Orange Knoll Ave. Phone: 818-790-8291
La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[meteorite-list] MUNICH 2007 picts

2007-11-09 Thread Peter Marmet

Hi All,

I finally put a few picts from the 2007 Munich Show on my web page:

http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id36.html

Sorry for the delay!

Cheers, Peter


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Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section Box by PolandMET

2007-11-09 Thread jbaxter112
Waaay cool, Marcin!

Jim Baxter

 Hi
 I like build different things, especialy when I think out new project.
 This time I want present easy to use, field use recomended box for see
 thin  section in cross polarized light.
 You need only loupe, light and thin section :)

 step 1
 First of all, we need to buy one thin section box from Jensen Meteorites
 http://www.jensenmeteorites.com/supplies.htm
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts1.jpg
 They are perfect for storage thin section except one thing. Designer
 forgot  about any corner or something else for our fingers that let us
 to open this  box. New boxes are impossible to open without help of
 knife or other tool.

 Step2
 So first thing we need to do is take top of this box and polish, using
 pile  tool, two shorter edges of box on angle 45*. When we do this and
 close box  we will have space for our finger nail that let us open box.
 It also  necessary to do this on all boxes we use to store our thin
 sections. I have  made this on my 100 boxes and its much easer to open
 them, and it cost less  stress when inside is expensive thin section and
 box dont want let us to  open it.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts2.jpg

 Step3
 Now is time to cut square hole in both halfs of TS box. Hole must have
 size  similar to the size of meteorite in standard thin section. Dont
 make too big  hole becouse box can be broken while preparing it or
 later.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts3.jpg.

 Step4
 Now we must polish edges of our new hole. Make sure hole size is similar
 in  both half's of TS Box.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts4.jpg

 Step5
 Now I make small holes on surface of box on all sides to make it more
 stable  when we hold it. Box is very flat and extreme smooth and it like
 to fly out  of your hands, especially when inside is thin section worth
 few hundreds of  $$$. Remember Murphy Law's !
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts5a.jpg
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts5b.jpg

 Step6
 Now we buy polarize filter from www.3dlens.com (I purchased A4 size). We
 cut  two square samples that will fit inside of each half of TS Box.
 REMEMBER to  cut them in 90* angle to each other. When You put them
 together You must see  nothing through them. If they will become black,
 then they are in cross  position.
 Prepare glue for glass/plexiglass/plastic and small sponge 2-3mm thin.
 Put  some glue inside of each half of TS Box and put there filters.
 REMEMBER to  remove folio layer from both sides of polarize filter
 before You will glue  them with TS Box. When You put filters inside box,
 close it WITH sponge  inside. It will make good connection beeween box
 and polarize filter while  glue become dry.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts6.jpg

 Step7
 If You not glued two halfs of TS Box together , then You will be able to
  open it after several minutes. My box looks like this. Pretty funny but
  extremelly usefull.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts7.jpg

 Step8 finito
 Now crash test :)
 Pretty easy to use everywhere. In Tucson show or in desert of Oman. Its
 undetectable by metal detectors, so You can take it to the plane without
  risk. Police dogs from drugs section will also not find my TSBox :) It
 take a hour to do my TSBox.
 http://www.meteoryt.net/ebay/ts8.jpg

 Have Fun !

 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
 http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
 http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)meteorite.pl
 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
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Re: [meteorite-list] Thin Section box by Polandmet

2007-11-09 Thread jeff hodges
What a wonderfull little invention.  I'm building one
right after I finish this email.  So many uses. And
such a compact, simple and inexpensive solution for a
common problem all us thin section aficionados have
run into on numerous occasions.

Pura Vida,
Jeff Hodges


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[meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread mexicodoug

Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !

So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or undetermined, and 
who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be rising until 21:15 where 
I'm at in southern North America, and at close approach will be moving at 
around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per minute.  That is a little 
challenging.especially if the spacecraft is not oriented to reflect much 
back.


Thanks kindly,
Doug


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron 
Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause 
Comet17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist fly-by 
of the Earth.


Jay Tate
The Spaceguard Centre

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron 
Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth (that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

Begin forwarded message:


From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the
size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
year,
and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
about
once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
that we
saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
that we
expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
once in 20
years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
fact that
it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a
real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
enough, but
really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html

The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 Earth
radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162, but
this time we have 5 days lead time.

Peter




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Senior Research Scientist
Space Science Institute
4603 Orange Knoll Ave. Phone: 818-790-8291
La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread lebofsky
The first announcment was a real one. I do not think that it was at first
realized that it was Rosetta!

I hope there will be more info in the next few days.

Larry

On Fri, November 9, 2007 11:35 am, mexicodoug wrote:
 Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !


 So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or undetermined, and
  who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be rising until 21:15
 where I'm at in southern North America, and at close approach will be
 moving at around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per minute.  That is a little
 challenging.especially if the spacecraft is not oriented to reflect
 much back.

 Thanks kindly,
 Doug



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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
 Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause
 Comet17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



 Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist
 fly-by of the Earth.

 Jay Tate
 The Spaceguard Centre


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
  Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet
 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



 Hi List:


 I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to
 go through.

 On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
 diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth
 (that
 is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to
 see with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope
 (if it
 is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

 Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret
 columns if you are interested.

 I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.


 LArry


 Begin forwarded message:


 From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
 To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming


 2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is
 much bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only
 about 1/3 that
 size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
 the size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about
 once a year, and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper
 atmosphere) about once in five years, so the only thing unusual about
 2004 FU162 is
 that we saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so
 large that we expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii
 only about once in 20 years, so it is a remarkable event in itself,
 in addition to the fact that it was discovered and can be watched
 flying by. Congratulations to Richard
 Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.


 Cheers,


 Alan


 P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
 will be a real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty
 bright enough, but really truckin'.

 At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:

 Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...


 http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html


 The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89
 Earth
 radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

 just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162,
 but this time we have 5 days lead time.

 Peter



 ***
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 Senior Research Scientist
 Space Science Institute
 4603 Orange Knoll Ave. Phone: 818-790-8291
 La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?

2007-11-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

Using the List to get a message to Larry Lebofsky,
since that's the only way I can email him (I think).

I got a message from my mailer-demon that says:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
150.135.111.1 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.7.1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Access denied
Giving up on 150.135.111.1.

That's mailer-demon-talk for a Block, where a
potential recipient has told their mail program that
they don't want to receive mail from that specific
sender, so their mailer-demon politely informs my
mailer-demon to Take This Mail and * It.

I'm assuming that you may be able to get a
List post that originates with me. Or not. I don't
know that much about mailer-demon ettiquette
and protocol; they're so touchy.

   If you get two copies of this message, then I am
not now blocked by your mailbox. If you get only
one copy of this message, then only direct mail from
me is blocked by your mailbox, and you could go
and tell your mailer-demon to unblock me.. If you
get no copies of this message, then you will know
that your mailbox is blocked to my mail even in
direct origination, so you'd have to go and tell your
mailer-demon to unblock me.

No, wait... There's a flaw in that logical flypaper.

That's what comes of dealing with demons, even
mere mailer-demons of the Unix variety which I believe
are on the lowest rung of the Infernal Career Ladder.


Sterling

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Hi Jerry, Sterling, and list:

Sterling. Have I done something wrong? I just got an
error message stating that mailbox disabled for this
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day has moved

2007-11-09 Thread Michael Johnson


Here's the new Rocks from Space Picture of the Day: 

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/ 

Sincerely, 
Michael Johnson 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

There's something re-assuring about the notion
that we could detect a potential impactor, even
if we didn't immediately recognize that it's one of 
ours!



Sterling K. Webb
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To: mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby


The first announcment was a real one. I do not think that it was at first
realized that it was Rosetta!

I hope there will be more info in the next few days.

Larry

On Fri, November 9, 2007 11:35 am, mexicodoug wrote:
 Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !


 So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or undetermined, and
  who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be rising until 21:15
 where I'm at in southern North America, and at close approach will be
 moving at around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per minute.  That is a little
 challenging.especially if the spacecraft is not oriented to reflect
 much back.

 Thanks kindly,
 Doug



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 From: Spaceguard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
 Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause
 Comet17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



 Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist
 fly-by of the Earth.

 Jay Tate
 The Spaceguard Centre


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
  Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet
 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



 Hi List:


 I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to
 go through.

 On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
 diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth
 (that
 is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to
 see with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope
 (if it
 is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

 Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret
 columns if you are interested.

 I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.


 LArry


 Begin forwarded message:


 From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
 To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming


 2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is
 much bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only
 about 1/3 that
 size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
 the size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about
 once a year, and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper
 atmosphere) about once in five years, so the only thing unusual about
 2004 FU162 is
 that we saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so
 large that we expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii
 only about once in 20 years, so it is a remarkable event in itself,
 in addition to the fact that it was discovered and can be watched
 flying by. Congratulations to Richard
 Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.


 Cheers,


 Alan


 P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
 will be a real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty
 bright enough, but really truckin'.

 At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:

 Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...


 http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html


 The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89
 Earth
 radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

 just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162,
 but this time we have 5 days lead time.

 Peter



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day has moved

2007-11-09 Thread STARSANDSCOPES
Absolute superb job!   Mike deserves  our thanks for the site we all look 
forward to checking out daily.  Thanks  Mike!

Tom Phillips








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Here's the new Rocks from Space Picture of the Day:  

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/ 

Sincerely, 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - November 9, 2007

2007-11-09 Thread Jerry

That is astonishing!
Jerry Flaherty
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2007-11-09 Thread robert cucchiara
Good Day list. I have many pristine stones from the
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range from 14 grams to 700 grams. Priced reasonable at
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Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?

2007-11-09 Thread Jerry

WOW. Glad you reposted this!
Jerry Flaherty
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Cc: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite Mailing List 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron Baalke 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth (that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

Begin forwarded message:


From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the
size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
year,
and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
about
once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
that we
saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
that we
expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
once in 20
years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
fact that
it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a
real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
enough, but
really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html

The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 Earth
radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162, but
this time we have 5 days lead time.

Peter




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Space Science Institute
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La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Steyaert

And the awakening:

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V70.html


Chris


At 19:35 09/11/2007, mexicodoug wrote:

Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !

So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or 
undetermined, and who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be 
rising until 21:15 where I'm at in southern North America, and at 
close approach will be moving at around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per 
minute.  That is a little challenging.especially if the 
spacecraft is not oriented to reflect much back.


Thanks kindly,
Doug


- Original Message - From: Spaceguard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause 
Comet17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?



Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist 
fly-by of the Earth.


Jay Tate
The Spaceguard Centre

- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; 
Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth (that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

Begin forwarded message:


From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the
size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
year,
and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
about
once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
that we
saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
that we
expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
once in 20
years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
fact that
it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a
real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
enough, but
really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html

The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 Earth
radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162, but
this time we have 5 days lead time.

Peter




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Space Science Institute
4603 Orange Knoll Ave. Phone: 818-790-8291
La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread Jerry

I think they may refer to this event as Friendly Fire [miss]
Jerry Flaherty
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From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby



Hi,

   There's something re-assuring about the notion
that we could detect a potential impactor, even
if we didn't immediately recognize that it's one of
ours!



Sterling K. Webb
-
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: mexicodoug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby


The first announcment was a real one. I do not think that it was at first
realized that it was Rosetta!

I hope there will be more info in the next few days.

Larry

On Fri, November 9, 2007 11:35 am, mexicodoug wrote:

Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !


So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or undetermined, and
 who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be rising until 21:15
where I'm at in southern North America, and at close approach will be
moving at around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per minute.  That is a little
challenging.especially if the spacecraft is not oriented to reflect
much back.

Thanks kindly,
Doug



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From: Spaceguard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause
Comet17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist
fly-by of the Earth.

Jay Tate
The Spaceguard Centre


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron
 Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:


I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to
go through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth
(that
is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to
see with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope
(if it
is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret
columns if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.


LArry


Begin forwarded message:



From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming


2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is
much bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only
about 1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about
once a year, and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper
atmosphere) about once in five years, so the only thing unusual about
2004 FU162 is
that we saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so
large that we expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii
only about once in 20 years, so it is a remarkable event in itself,
in addition to the fact that it was discovered and can be watched
flying by. Congratulations to Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.


Cheers,


Alan


P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty
bright enough, but really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:


Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...


http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html


The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89
Earth
radii) on Nov 13.844 UT

just beating the previous record close approach of 2004 FU162,
but this time we have 5 days lead time.

Peter





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Space Science Institute
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La Canada, CA 91011-3364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[meteorite-list] AtTn Mike Farmer

2007-11-09 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin

You might want to read this thread on Joe's forum

http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1193152271
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby

2007-11-09 Thread mexicodoug

This incident, along with previous NEOCP postings of the WMAP spacecraft,
highlights the deplorable state of availability of positional information on
distant artificial objects (whether in earth orbit or in solar orbit).  The
Distant Artificial Satellites Observations (DASO) page on the MPC website
(http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/SpaceJunk/SpaceJunk.html)

...A.U. Tomatic

Hi Listees,

I just extracted this from the web page Chris kindly provided with the 
awakening :-)  Good material for a sci-horror thriller


Looks like 1 AU Tomatic is the fall guy signing off.  I don't think the ESA 
will bother to register Rosetta on their Space Junk webpage  If there 
wasn't a sense of humor before, there certainly is one now.  Statistically, 
one needs to strongly question whether someone knew what what happening and 
just wanted to see if they could pull it off.  Seeing a spacecraft traveling 
12 km/s still six and a half days away on a near collision course with Earth 
and not raising a scandal of what if's knowing it's size conveniently ... 
even if you knew exactly where to look this is all pretty incredible.  It 
almost deserves a designation for that alone ... found it right where it was 
supposed to be at around the 20th magnitude or so?  Can anyone locate the 
honorable Dr. AU Tomatic ?  I 'm not getting my hopes up about how well we 
can detect these objectsit still smells like a prank to me.


Keep Looking Up,
Doug



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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rosetta gravity assist flyby



And the awakening:

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V70.html


Chris


At 19:35 09/11/2007, mexicodoug wrote:

Someone has a sense of humour, especially the flying couch comment !

So, will closest approach be 20:57, 21:04, 21:13 UT, or undetermined, and 
who will get the view?  I think Rosetta won't be rising until 21:15 where 
I'm at in southern North America, and at close approach will be moving at 
around 3 degrees (6 full moons) per minute.  That is a little 
challenging.especially if the spacecraft is not oriented to reflect 
much back.


Thanks kindly,
Doug


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Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Ron 
Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause 
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Yep.  It's the Rosetta spacecraft making its planned gravity assist 
fly-by of the Earth.


Jay Tate
The Spaceguard Centre

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Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Did a Collision Cause Comet 
17P/Holmes'MysteriousOutburst?




Hi List:

I am trying this again since my previouys forward did not appear to go
through.

On November 13, this newly-discovered asteroid (only about 20 meters
diameter) will pass within 2 Earth radii of the CENTER of the Earth 
(that

is close). It will be 9th magnitude (about 50-100 times too faint to see
with the naked eye), but show be observable with a small telescope (if 
it

is night where you are when it comes by and you know were to look).

Go to the cfa.harvard site for coordiantes, etc. I can interpret columns
if you are interested.

I am sure there will be more about this in the coming days.

LArry

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From: Alan W Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: November 8, 2007 5:15:19 PM MST
To: Peter Birtwhistle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: {MPML} 2007 VN84 incoming

2007 VN84 is significant in that it not only comes closer, it is much
bigger, around 20 m in diameter, compared to 2004 FU162 only about
1/3 that
size. Based on our recent population estimates, we expect an object
the
size of 2004 FU162 to pass within a couple Earth radii about once a
year,
and to actually impact (actually, blow up in the upper atmosphere)
about
once in five years, so the only thing unusual about 2004 FU162 is
that we
saw it as it passed by. 2007 VN84, on the other hand, is so large
that we
expect omething that big to come as close as 2 radii only about
once in 20
years, so it is a remarkable event in itself, in addition to the
fact that
it was discovered and can be watched flying by. Congratulations to
Richard
Kowalski and the Catalina Sky Survey.

Cheers,

Alan

P.S. I second his request and interest for a lightcurve, but it
will be a
real challeng on account of its rate of motion. Plenty bright
enough, but
really truckin'.

At 03:57 PM 11/8/2007, Peter Birtwhistle wrote:
Take a look at MPEC 2007-V69 just announced...

http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/mpec/K07/K07V69.html

The minimum distance from the geocenter is 0.81 AU (1.89 

[meteorite-list] Looking for L5 or L6 Material

2007-11-09 Thread David Kitt Deyarmin
I'm looking for a reasonably priced L5 or L6 specimen to make into a 50mm 
sphere.


If you have something you think will work contact me off list at bobadebt at 
ec.rr.com


If you have a large piece and would like it cut into slices we might be able 
to work something out.


Thanks 


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[meteorite-list] Diogenite and rare CK4 - AD

2007-11-09 Thread PolandMET

Hello
Tooday I want to introduce another two meteorites:

NWA 4962 - rare, fresh, low TKW, carbonaceous chondrite CK4
NWA 4965 - beautifull brecciated diogenite, super polished slices at 
reasonable price.


http://www.PolandMET.com

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)meteorite.pl
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day has moved

2007-11-09 Thread Ruben Garcia
Very Cool!!! Nice Job,




Ruben Garcia
Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.mr-meteorite.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] AtTn Mike Farmer

2007-11-09 Thread Michael Farmer
This is more crap from Randall Gregory, the nuttiest
person I have met in meteorites to date, and that
say's a lot. 
Michael Farmer
--- David  Kitt Deyarmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You might want to read this thread on Joe's forum
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD Carancas

2007-11-09 Thread Michael L Blood
These are not only exceptionally large for Carancas but, in
Addition, two have outstanding Slick'nSlide and one has 15%
rich, black Fusion Crust.
They are
2.870g
3.919g

4.536g
They are so fascinating to look at, you should take
A peek even if you aren't interested in purchase. They
Are the last 3 items listed at the bottom of the page
With an excellent click-to photo of each.
Go here:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/Hammers.html

Best wishes, Michael


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[meteorite-list] CR2-largest found?

2007-11-09 Thread mmorgan
List
I would like to know the mass of the single largest piece of a CR ever found 
and documented.
Thanks,
Matt Morgan
--
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
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[meteorite-list] Leigh Anne DelRay

2007-11-09 Thread Notkin

Dear Listees:

Many of you know Leigh Anne DelRay. She is a jeweler and silversmith, 
meteorite collector, and is admired for her meteorite jewelry which is 
regularly featured at the annual Denver meteorite auction. She lived in 
Denver for a number of years and was a member of the Denver COMETS. 
Just about a year ago she moved to Tucson,  and now works for me part 
time as an office and design assistant. She is also a well known seller 
on eBay.


As Leigh Anne has many friends in the meteorite community, I felt I 
should let you all know that she is going into hospital, here in 
Tucson, for serious heart surgery on Monday. Her surgeon has a good 
success rate with this very specialized operation, but there is 
considerable risk involved.


If any of you would care to send get well cards, notes, or letters to 
Leigh Anne, please address them to my P.O. Box, and I will deliver them 
to her as soon as she's well enough to receive visitors.


Leigh Anne DelRay
c/o Geoff Notkin
P.O. Box 36652
Tucson, AZ 85740


Thanks in advance,

Geoff N.
www.aerolite.org

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Re: [meteorite-list] CR2-largest found?

2007-11-09 Thread Joe Kerchner
Sounds like you found a big one? Care to share? Any photos? Am I just
loony to suggest that you found the big one?
Best,
Joe K
http://illinoismeteorites.com

On Nov 9, 2007 8:18 PM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 I would like to know the mass of the single largest piece of a CR ever found 
 and documented.
 Thanks,
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 P.O. Box 151293
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Randall Gregory strikes again!

2007-11-09 Thread Joe Kerchner
-- Forwarded message --
From: Joe Kerchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Nov 9, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Randall Gregory strikes again!
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello listees,
   Here is a really interesting post at The SkyRock Cafe from Mr.
Randall Greggory, he calls Mr. farmer a phony and accuses farmer of
falsely calling himself a Dr. If I remember correctly he was the fake
Dr. on the list. This is a very lengthy post from Randall, it goes
into great detail of his version of the entire Carancas story from
fall up til today.

http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1193152271

Best wishes,
Joe Kerchner
http://illinoismeteorites.com
http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl


On Nov 7, 2007 3:54 PM, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/storage/paper997/news/2007/11/06/Extra/Police.Beat-3080688.shtml

 Police were dispatched to the Kuiper Space Sciences building, 1629 E. 
 University
 Blvd., after a woman reported having a suspicious e-mail sent to her by 
 someone
 she knew Oct. 30.

 The woman told an officer that she had previous contact with the man and had
 been advised to e-mail him telling him that she did not want to be in contact
 anymore. The man replied with an e-mail that said, I curse you as Christ 
 cursed
 the tree that bore no fruit, according to reports.

 A detective spoke with the man on the phone and informed him that if he made 
 any
 more contact with the woman, he would be committing harassment. The man said 
 he
 understood but that he believed the UA had stolen $2.5 million worth of
 meteorites from him, and that is why he e-mailed the woman.
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[meteorite-list] Re-Modeled Website.

2007-11-09 Thread Impactika
Hello everybody,

I am done!   I think.
And just on time  for the weekend.
I have never liked those buttons on the right-hand column of  my website, and 
after much beating my head against the wall (I am not a  programmer!!) I 
believe I got rid of them, and replaced them by links at the top  and bottom of 
every page. Go take a look and tell me what you  think:

_www.IMPACTIKA.com_ (http://www.IMPACTIKA.com)   

And while I was at it, I also changed a few other things. I now  have way too 
many pieces to list all of them on the Meteorites page, so the  Catalog is 
where you will find a complete list, and on the Meteorites page, you  will now 
find additional pages for my most unusual/rare/new/spectacular pieces.  I hope 
that will work better. So please take a look at both and tell me if  you like 
it.
Also I updated my list of Thin-Sections. But I have already been warned  that 
there is a big package coming my way!. 
 
Of course if you find any bugs, links that don't work,etc... Please do  
let me know.
 
Enjoy. 

Anne M.  Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vice-President, I.M.C.A.  Inc.
www.IMCA.cc
 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: Randall Gregory strikes again!

2007-11-09 Thread Michael Farmer
What is interesting about it? This guy is a proven
liar like 50 times over here on this list. He lied
about buying material, he lied about beinga doctor, he
lied about being a lawyer, he lied about everthing he
has said.
Anyone still believe that spew he writes? In my book,
someone who lies in every email no longer has a shred
of credibility. 

Michael Farmer



--- Joe KerchneWr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Joe Kerchner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Nov 9, 2007 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Randall Gregory
 strikes again!
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Hello listees,
Here is a really interesting post at The SkyRock
 Cafe from Mr.
 Randall Greggory, he calls Mr. farmer a phony and
 accuses farmer of
 falsely calling himself a Dr. If I remember
 correctly he was the fake
 Dr. on the list. This is a very lengthy post from
 Randall, it goes
 into great detail of his version of the entire
 Carancas story from
 fall up til today.
 

http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1193152271
 
 Best wishes,
 Joe Kerchner
 http://illinoismeteorites.com
 http://illinoismeteorites.com/yabb/YaBB.pl
 
 
 On Nov 7, 2007 3:54 PM, Darren Garrison
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/storage/paper997/news/2007/11/06/Extra/Police.Beat-3080688.shtml
 
  Police were dispatched to the Kuiper Space
 Sciences building, 1629 E. University
  Blvd., after a woman reported having a suspicious
 e-mail sent to her by someone
  she knew Oct. 30.
 
  The woman told an officer that she had previous
 contact with the man and had
  been advised to e-mail him telling him that she
 did not want to be in contact
  anymore. The man replied with an e-mail that said,
 I curse you as Christ cursed
  the tree that bore no fruit, according to
 reports.
 
  A detective spoke with the man on the phone and
 informed him that if he made any
  more contact with the woman, he would be
 committing harassment. The man said he
  understood but that he believed the UA had stolen
 $2.5 million worth of
  meteorites from him, and that is why he e-mailed
 the woman.
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