Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro?
might now be relatively cheap for individuals with non-dollar funds. ... Well if you have only just realized that, you've got some serious catching up to do ;) lol Best, Mark F. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E.P. Grondine Sent: 08 April 2008 01:57 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro? Hi all - Given the fall of the US dollar against the Euro, it would seem to me that US meteorites, as well as meteorites imported earlier into the US, might now be relatively cheap for individuals with non-dollar funds. goof hunting all, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should not copy or use this email or attachment(s) for any purpose nor disclose their contents to any other person. GENERAL STATEMENT: Southern Scientific Ltd's computer systems may be monitored and communications carried on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and for other lawful purposes. Registered address Rectory Farm Rd, Sompting, Lancing, W Sussex BN15 0DP. Company No 1800317 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tektites and Fused Glass in Israel ???
Hi Paul,
Lots of hokum pokem around about this subject, but I do remember (a
serious) documentary some time back on UK television ('Horizon' I
think), they [horizon] where basically referring to sulphur type
spherules (the mythical Brimstone) deposits that where found around the
area. I believe by triangulation of deposits they where arguing a case
for the remains of Sodom and G. being out in the middle of the sea.
.. Lots of ancient volcanic activity in that area, so could be lots of
things I guess, (though the recent alleged reports of elevated iridium
are a little 'trickier' to explain away... )
Best,
Mark Ford
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Sent: 07 April 2008 18:24
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Tektites and Fused Glass in Israel ???
In sci.archaeology USENET discussion, The following
statement was made:
There is an area in Israel where Sodom and Gomorrah
are believed by most historians to have once been.
The plain is littered with spherules of fused glass,
which only forms when very high heat is combined with
great pressure. ...
This claim was allegedly made on a PBS show in the
mid-1990s according to a post in the thread Re: Nobel
Laureates v Creationists, Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
by Scotius at:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/13ce10f
b77d1fc61/54edd76022891b71?lnk=stq=%22fused+glass%22+%22Sodom+and+Gomor
rah%22#54edd76022891b71
Does anyone on this list either know what PBS special
is being referred to by this comment or primary
literature that documents the occurrence of spherules
of fused glass, which only forms when very high heat
is combined with great pressure within any part of
Israel? Is this claim about spherules of fused glass
having been found in Israel being mentioned in a
mid-1990s PBS Special a figment of Scotius
imagination?
While trying finding out about the occurrence of fused
glass in Israel, my web search found reference to
tektites having been found in articles by written
pseudoscientific alternative archaeologists including:
1. THE ATLANTEANS Tutors or Tyrants?
http://www.burlingtonnews.net/atlanteans.html
2. ATLANTIS 2012 AND THE AGE OF REVEALING
The High Window Articles by Michael Tsarion.
http://taroscopes.com/highwindowsarticles/2012.age.reckoning.html
Both of the above web pages stated:
Why are radioactive tektites and isotopes found all over
the Dead Sea basin and at the very location posited for the
ancient cities of Sodom and Gomorrah?
and 3. Atlantis, Alien Visitation, and Genetic Manipulation - 06'
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/atlantida_mu/atlantis_alienvisitation/
atlantis_alienvisitation06.htm
How does the detractor explain the presence of
radioactive tektites and isotopes at the very
sites now known to be the Biblical Sodom and
Gomorrah and Jericho?
None of these web pages provide any source for tektites
being found in Israel.
Has any credible source reported anything about tektites
being found in Israel? Or is this usual claptrap that alternative
archaeologists post to the Internet?
Best Regards,
Paul H.
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster
Total Access, No Cost.
http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com
__
http://www.meteoritecentral.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE:
This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential. If you are not
the intended recipient, please notify us. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] You should
not copy or use this email or attachment(s) for any purpose nor disclose their
contents to any other person.
GENERAL STATEMENT:
Southern Scientific Ltd's computer systems may be monitored and communications
carried on them recorded, to secure the effective operation of the system and
for other lawful purposes.
Registered address Rectory Farm Rd, Sompting, Lancing, W Sussex BN15 0DP.
Company No 1800317
__
http://www.meteoritecentral.com
Meteorite-list mailing list
Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Lodranite Howardite - AD
Dear List Members, Last week I announced two NEW UNPAIRED meteorites. These eBay auctions will end tomorrow (Wednesday, April 9th), all under seller, NaturesVault. The first is NWA 4529, a low TKW Lodranite (just 60 grams!!) and second is NWA 4934, a gorgeous Brecciated Howardite (Just 307g TKW). The Main Masses and some of the largest pieces are already in others' collections. There are currently only 17 specimens available of NWA 4529 Lodranite and only 10 pieces of NWA 4934 Howardite. To see all of these, please click here: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault If you are interested in any of these, do not hesitate because once they are gone, there is no more to be had! Best regards and Thanks for bidding! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
hi all , considering the fall of the dollar , the nwa market is affected by the dollar rate, as a fact we buy meteorite in an expenssive euro from all africa, and with a high dirhams; and we have to sell to the biggest market that is , usa and canada, as all the collector may observe , there is two month that morrocan dealer slow sales , because of the rate of the dollar, many dealer coming from tucson show lost in the rates exchange, let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. the dollar was last year 8.9 dirhams and today the dollar is 7.1 dirhams.that's 20% losses. my best aziz habibi habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font _ Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente http://mail.yahoo.fr __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Martian NWA 4925
Hello List, When I came home from school today, I was pleased to see my 0.894-gram basaltic shergottite NWA 4925 from Chladni's Heirs had arrived. What a gorgeous, crystalline beauty from our orange neighbor. Have you ever heard about those weird, orange inclusions in the ALH 84001 pyroxenite? NWA has a similar feature: large, orange blebs that are up to 1.5 millimeter in diameter set in a conspicuous crystalline matrix of pyroxene and maskelynite. If you should think it is similar to DaG 476, you are wrong. The latter is much finer-grained, less crystalline and more like a gun-metal gray, terrestrial basalt. NWA 4925 is beautiful beyond compare!!! http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/special-nwa4925.html Cheers, Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
While US customers might be slowing down, other countries may have been increasing. Many of the other currencies are up considerably like the Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Euro, etc. Markets and circumstances change... they always have... they always will. For example, 6-7 years ago Unclassified NWA's sold for say $3/g+ on eBay. At that time the Australian Dollar was worth about US$0.49. Today it's worth $0.93 and holding strong. And those same quality meteorites can sell for US$0.10/g now. That's means today, a 9g meteorite costs me ~AUS$1 whereas 6 years ago it may have cost me AUS$50+. Clearly, that's a very simplified view of it but I guess what I'm trying to say (in this late hour;-)) is that the market is what it is and people will pay what they feel comfortable to pay. That is the basic truth of it. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:44 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's hi all , considering the fall of the dollar , the nwa market is affected by the dollar rate, as a fact we buy meteorite in an expenssive euro from all africa, and with a high dirhams; and we have to sell to the biggest market that is , usa and canada, as all the collector may observe , there is two month that morrocan dealer slow sales , because of the rate of the dollar, many dealer coming from tucson show lost in the rates exchange, let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. the dollar was last year 8.9 dirhams and today the dollar is 7.1 dirhams.that's 20% losses. my best aziz habibi habibi aziz box 70 erfoud 52200 morroco phone. 21235576145 fax.21235576170/font _ Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente http://mail.yahoo.fr __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trip to Bosnia, anyone?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04082008/news/weirdbuttrue/weirdbuttrue.htm A Bosnian man who claims his house has been hit by meteorites five times since November is blaming spacemen. I am being targeted by aliens, said Radivoje Lajic, who has put a steel-reinforced roof on his house to deal with the meteorites. They are playing games with me. I don't know why they are doing this. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Dear Michael and List, Michael wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's - OT
It will take generations to undo the mess the chimp has created. And you want to know the sad thing? Whoever has to raise taxes to pay off this credit card that Bush has run up or rebuild the broken military will shoulder all the blame and not get re-elected. That assumes that he/she could start a term without the gift that keeps on TAKING from Bush (Iraq War). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aizz0o9fPWU Howard Steffic Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 07:44:18 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
But they're already buying more than ever, the Europeans. Ask some other American dealers. Of course their purchases disperse on US- and European dealers likewise, because the European dealers can't ask more for their meteorites than their US-colleagues. So I think also most of the European offerers can report an increase of sales during the last years. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Greg Hupe Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2008 17:04 An: Michael L Blood Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's Dear Michael and List, Michael wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Secondary craters on Mars and Carancas
Hi all - Speaking of the small crater at Carancas, a prominent theory put forward to explain the number of craters on Mars is secondary craters formed by the impact of large ejecta from primary impacts, i.e.: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/PSP_007059_1975 Given the energy required to form an impact crater of any size, I am very suspicious of this hypothesis. I can't see how any large ejecta from a primary impact could reach sufficient velocity to have the energy necessary to form these secondary craters, and I think that some may be engaging in wishful thinking in this regard. Given what we know of asteroids and comets, smaller chunks of a primary impactor impacting at the same time might be a more viable hypothesis. Any thoughts, anyone? good hunting all, (d is too close to f with my stroke, and goof is as good a word as good to a spell checker.) E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Because the European dealers have had and did lower their prices to stay in business . Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Michael L Blood Gesendet: Dienstag, 8. April 2008 16:44 An: habibi abdelaziz; Meteorite List Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Dear List; I agree with Michael. It is a number of issues, one being U.S. debt and taxing makes money tight as does war. Another as Michael puts it is the cost of bread, milk, and eggs, and gasoline which the common folks need, and compete with the meteorite collector in for pricing. Meteorite collector: can I afford an extra $50 a week in energy, food, and other costs and continue to spend my normal amount on my collecting hobby? We Americans collect more than just meteorites. We also collect food and energy and historically at a disportinate rate to other civilized nations. Our food and energy costs are very high now, and intertwined deeply with each other. As other economies rise, the U.S. economy is equalizing, meaning we are in finincial decline. Less money is expendable to collect stamps, second and third cars, METEORITES, bread, milk,and eggs. This decline in business is not just in the meteorite sector. I think big oil is probably a good business to invest in at the moment, but with an election coming soon, maybe not so either. Thanks Michael for the comment. --- Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/8/08 6:44 AM, habibi abdelaziz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let's hope the dollar will be back high , if not and the trend of the dollar continue this way ; we will have a closed market in nwa.or an expenssive meteorite market. Hi Aziz, We have a strange shift going on in the US. The Republican Party Used to stand for conservative economic spending by the government And the Democratic Party had a reputation of tax and spend on social Programs. However, the past 15 years everything is turning upside down. Clinton brought the national debt down to only 1 trillion $(from a previous 4 when he took office). That made the dollar strong. However, we have had someone who was supposed to be a conservative drive up the national debt to over 7 TRILLION Dollars over the last 7 years, and the result is a very weak dollar. (this is quite easily accomplished when you cut taxes and expand spending) So much for small government - though We do hire out for some of the more important functions. Unfortunately, your comment about what will happen if the dollar Does not get stronger has already happened. It was plain as day at the Last Tucson Show. Prices were the highest I have ever seen since the Flood of African material started. Prices on much of the historic material was actually higher than before the NWA flood and, of course, the NWA Material is at an all time low in volume and high in prices. Someone actually complained that my auction was ruined because So many dealers were buying so much (actually, only about 30%) that They were outbidding collectors. The difference was that the dealers SEE What is happening - and when things are cheaper at the auction than can Be had wholesale they have to bid on it. Clearly, many collectors are in denial and just don't accept that market prices bottomed out 2 years ago And have been on the climb and that cline has steepened the last year Quite a bit. Before long, I don't think anything will be available cheaper Than it was at the height of the market 7 or 8 years ago. Of course, bread, Butter, rent and certainly gas are not nearly as cheap as they were 8 years Ago, either. I just hope Clinton wasn't a one time aberration and at least one of the parties will be financially conservative! If the government wants to Spend $ they will have to tax to pay for it - or, do what they have done the Last 7 years and just print more, which MUST result in a decline in the Value of the dollar. You can't have it both ways - they have been acting like a 15 year old with a credit card. What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. Any Europeans out there got an answer? Best wishes, Michael 'Your living is determined not so much by what life brings to you as by the attitude you bring to life; not so much by what happens to you as by the way your mind looks at what happens.' --Kahlil Gibran __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dave Freeman Freeman's Fossil Sales store front 527 N. Front Street Rock Springs, Wyoming You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
[meteorite-list] Workshop on Antarctic Meteorites
http://www.metsoc2008.jp/workshop/ Workshop on Antarctic Meteorites The workshop on Antarctic Meteorites: Search, Recovery, and Classification will be held July 26 - 27, 2008, at the Kunibiki Messe http://www.kunibikimesse.jp/en/index.html in Matsue City http://www.city.matsue.shimane.jp/kankou/en/, Japan. The workshop precedes the 71st Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society http://www.metsoc2008.jp held at the same venue. Purpose and Scope Many groups are recovering large numbers of meteorites from Antarctica. The purpose of the workshop is to gather meteoriticists to discuss issues relating to these collections, and how to allow these new discoveries to have the largest impact on our field. The workshop format will allow discussion of topics not usually covered during the regular sessions of the Meteoritical Society meeting. Specifically, the topics of interest will include the search, recovery, classification, weathering and curation of Antarctic Meteorites. Travel Grants Thanks to generous contributions from the National Institute of Polar Research, Japan http://www.nipr.ac.jp/english/, and the Graduate School for Advanced Studies (SOKENDAI), Japan http://www.soken.ac.jp/en/, a limited number of student travel grants will be available to qualified students and recent Ph.D.s, who are members of the Meteoritical Society. Applicants must be the sole or first author of an abstract to be presented at the workshop and also submit application materials antmet2008.studentapp.pdf to the Lunar and Planetary Institute by the abstract deadline Schedule May 14, 2008 Deadline for abstract submission June 18, 2008 Program and abstracts posted on this website July 7, 2008 Deadline for pre-registration July 26-27, 2008 Workshop on Antarctic Meteorites July 28-August 1, 2008 71st Annual Meeting of the Meteoritical Society __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) Greg Hupe wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
At least at the present time, the U.S. drives the meteorite market, which is why sales are slow. From a collecting standpoint, meteorites are and have always been a luxury item. Despite their rarity and scientific value, they do not have the liquidity of other commodities, so they cannot be used as a reliable hedge against inflation. (Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a futures market for meteorites? That would add some price stability.) If I was a dealer that depended on sales for my livelihood, I might consider making advertising inroads into emerging markets -- specifically China. Effective marketing there is likely to be quite different from that which works for Western consumers. Dave and Michael both mentioned the rise in the U.S. national debt which certainly has a negative effect on the purchasing power of the dollar. (As a humorous aside, I'm reminded of Saturday Night Live's Dennis Miller once asking, Who do we owe this debt to? I say, 'let's just not pay it.' What are they going to do? As for oil/gasoline, the real price is no higher than it was in the 1970s. Frankly, I don't quite understand how gasoline isn't over $6/gallon when you consider the comparative cost of a barrel of oil today (over $100) vs. say five years ago (less than $30). Dave wrote: I think big oil is probably a good business to invest in at the moment..., to which I would say it's probably better than meteorites! But the truth is, anyone who owns mutual funds is already invested in oil. That's not to say you wouldn't want to press your position (I have been). As for the outcome of the fall elections having an impact on oil prices, I'd say it will be minimal. Oil is a global commodity whose price is fixed largely by demand, not U.S. politics. Cheers, Rob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] April Meteorite-Times now up
Greetings Everyone, The April Meteorite-Times is now up. http://www.meteorite-times.com/ Thank you again to all the writers! Paul and Jim __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Hi Mark, Mark wrote: We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) We definately appreciate it!! Thank you! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) Greg Hupe wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
I don't think sales are slow at all. Especially material that sells for over 5,000 usd. Matt Morgan -- Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 USA -Original Message- From: Rob Matson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 10:16:28 To:Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's At least at the present time, the U.S. drives the meteorite market, which is why sales are slow. From a collecting standpoint, meteorites are and have always been a luxury item. Despite their rarity and scientific value, they do not have the liquidity of other commodities, so they cannot be used as a reliable hedge against inflation. (Wouldn't it be interesting if there was a futures market for meteorites? That would add some price stability.) If I was a dealer that depended on sales for my livelihood, I might consider making advertising inroads into emerging markets -- specifically China. Effective marketing there is likely to be quite different from that which works for Western consumers. Dave and Michael both mentioned the rise in the U.S. national debt which certainly has a negative effect on the purchasing power of the dollar. (As a humorous aside, I'm reminded of Saturday Night Live's Dennis Miller once asking, Who do we owe this debt to? I say, 'let's just not pay it.' What are they going to do? As for oil/gasoline, the real price is no higher than it was in the 1970s. Frankly, I don't quite understand how gasoline isn't over $6/gallon when you consider the comparative cost of a barrel of oil today (over $100) vs. say five years ago (less than $30). Dave wrote: I think big oil is probably a good business to invest in at the moment..., to which I would say it's probably better than meteorites! But the truth is, anyone who owns mutual funds is already invested in oil. That's not to say you wouldn't want to press your position (I have been). As for the outcome of the fall elections having an impact on oil prices, I'd say it will be minimal. Oil is a global commodity whose price is fixed largely by demand, not U.S. politics. Cheers, Rob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
On the comments on why the Europeans have not picked up too much slack that resulted from the erosion of US buying power: Dear Listees, Just a stab, but the European (Franco-Germanic) buying culture seems much less speculative (more conservative) than the corresponding American (Las Vegas) buying culture. When the pressure is put on the speculators in any market, sales tend to get sluggish as no one wants to take paper losses and the market simply looses its momentum. The situation I see is that a few grams (or disturbingly, milligrams) weekly are used as price benchmarks for tons of material, and in plenty of cases in sales to buyers who are not market-savvy. The nice man (or lady) that sells you the piece claims that it is worth millions - just trust them and appeals to our love of space and astronomy (how could we possibly say no?!). How is that for investment advice? In such overall economic slowdowns, situations price normally re-adjusts lower and the demand picks up, people grumble a bit, some get caught with their pants down, some new ones appear who are better suited, and everyone remaining gets back to figuring how to make money. But since meteorites are so far from being a perfect market, macroeconomics becomes a square peg in a round market. So hopefully, everyone just relaxes and acquires whatever makes them happy with offers they consider fair, and to relieve some pressures, speculators avoid counting all their chickens before they hatch. That's my stab at it. As meteorites are not an investment approved by the Securities and Exchange commission, no 10-K or proxy statement is in the works and it's still each man (and woman) for themself... One thing is a safe bet: If you truly love meteorites, everything is just fine. These are great times to be alive... Best wishes and Great Health Doug -Original Message- From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 12:18 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's Hi Mark, Mark wrote: We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) We definately appreciate it!! Thank you! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Mark Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's We're working on it, guys, we're working on it :) Greg Hupe wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I was thinking the same exact thing! With the Dollar so low and the Moroccan wholesale pricing WAY, WAY high, any collectors outside of the US buying meteorites priced in US Dollars are getting a serious bargain, many serious bargains!!! -- Mark's Meteorite Pages: http://meteorites.cc __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Effect of fall of dollar against Euro/ dirham's
Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not more Europeans buying Meteorites from US dealers? With the Euro so strong against the dollar, what An opportunity. I mailed out 16 packages today including 7 to europe and 1 to canada with 60% of the total value in those 8 packages. I'd say Europeans are buying. -- Eric Olson 7682 Firethorn Dr Fayetteville, NC 28311 http://www.star-bits.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Lake Janisjarvi Impact Crater- New NASA image 08APR08
List, Here is the latest image of Janisjarvi Impact Crater in Russia. Best, Dirk Ross...Tokyo The latest from NASA's Earth Observatory (08 April 2008) Lake Janisjarvi Impact Crater, Russia http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=17988 Other References on the WEB: 1609.pdf(PDF) THE IMPACT MELT OF THE JANISJARVI CRATER. D.D.Badjukov. 1. and J.Raitala. 2. 1 ... roughly ellipsoidal Janisjarvi lake with a size of 13x17 km. ... www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1609.pdf - 59k - View as html Lunar and European Space Agency First International Conference on Impact ...(PDF) ... of impact melting in. Janisjarvi impact crater whose target ... around the Janisjarvi lake and from southern areas. Chemical data: The impact target area is ... www.rssd.esa.int/SYS/docs/ll_transfers/292404_Larionova.pdf - 147k - View as html Jänisjärvi ... of Lappajarvi Janisjarvi ... recognized impact coordinates (61°58' the Entry an be lake - and Janisjarvi, 33. Podobné ... Podobné odporúèa The on - crater impact ... www.elizaright.info/Janisjarvi.html - 10k Lappajärvi Published Articles listed at: http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/janisjarvi.htm: References 1. Basilevsky, A. T., Fel'dman, V.I., Kapustkina, I.G. and Kolesov,G.M., On the distribution of iridium in the rocks of terrestrial impact craters (in Russian). Geokhimiya, v. 6, pp. 781-790. 1984. 2. Basilevsky, A. T., Fel'dman, V. I., Geochemistry of the impactites from the Janis Jarvi, Kara, and El'gygytgyn craters (in Russian). Geokimaya, v. 8, pp. 1092-1107. 1983. 3. Basilevsky, A. T., Florenskiy, K.P., Yakovlev, O.I., Ivanov, B.A., Fel'dman, V.I. and Granovskiy,I.B., Transformation of planetary material in high-speed collisions (in Russian). Geokhimiya, v. 7, pp. 946-960. 1982. 4. Belov, V. P., The Janis'jarvi astrobleme, southern Karelia (in Russian). Doklady Akademii Nauk SSSR, v. 229, pp. 1419-1422. 1976. 5. Dabizha, A. I., Fel'dman, V. I., The geophysical properties of some astroblemes in the USSR (in Russian). Meteoritika, v. 40, pp. 91-101. 1982. 6. Dabizha, A. I., Ivanov, B. A., A geophysical model of the structure of meteorite craters and some problems of the mechanics of crater formation (in Russian). Meteoritika, v. 37, pp. 160-167. 1978. 7. Dabizha, A. I., A new interpretation of the structure of meteorite craters (in Russian). Astronomicheskii Vestnik, v. 11, pp. 73-77. 1977. 8. Dabizha, A. I., Fedynsky, V. V., Features of the gravitational field of astroblemes (in Russian). Meteoritika, v. 36, pp. 113-120. 1977. 9. Dabizha, A. I., Fedynsky, V. V., The Earth's star wounds and their diagnosis by geophysical methods (in Russian). Zemlya i Vselennaya, v. 3, pp. 56-64. 1975. 10. Elo, S., Zhdanova, L., Chepik, A., Pesonen, L.J., Philippov, N. and Shelemotov,A., Comparative geophysical description and modelling of Lappajarvi and Janisjarvi impact structures, Fennoscandian shield, 4th ESF Workshop, p. 35. 2000. 11. Eskola, P., On volcanic necks in Lake Janisjarvi (in Finnish). Finland Geologiska Kommissionen Bulletin, v. 55, pp. 3-13. 1921. 12. Fel'dman, V. I., Rare-Earth elements in astrobleme impactites. Geochemistry International, v. 32, pp. 24-48. 1995. 13. Fel'dman, V. I., Sazonova, L.V. and Granovsky,L.B., A classification of impactites based on petrographic and geological features (in Russian). Ispytateley Prirody Byull., Otdel. Geol., v. 57, pp. 84-94. 1982. 14. Fel'dman, V. I., Granovsky, L.B. and Nikishina,N.N., Shock metamorphism of rock-forming minerals (at the Janisjarvi astrobleme) (in Russian). Kosmicheskaya Mineralogiya, v. 11, pp. 86-91. 1978. 15. Fregerslev, S., Carstens, H., Fe-Ni metal in impact melt rocks of Lake Lappajarvi, Finland. Contributions to Mineralogy and Petrology, v. 55, pp. 255-263. 1976. 16. Glikson, A. Y., Mega-impacts and mantle-melting episodes: tests of possible correlations. AGSO Journal of Australian Geology Geophysics, v. 16, pp. 587-607. 1996. 17. Granovsky, L. B., Fel'dman, V. I., Some peculiarities of geologic setting of Janisjarvi impactites, southwest Karelia, USSR (abstract). Lunar and Planetary Science IX, pp. 403-404. 1978. 18. Grieve, R. A. F., The record of impact on Earth: Implications for a major Cretaceous/Tertiary impact event. Geological Society of America, Special Paper 190, pp. 25-37. 1982. 19. Gurov, E. P., Gurova, E. P., Impact structures on the Earth's surface (in Russian). Geologicheskii Zhurnal, v. 47, pp. 117-124. 1987. 20. Henkel, H., Pesonen, L. J., Impact craters and craterform structures in Fennoscandia. Tectonophysics, v. 216, pp. 31-40. 1992. 21. Khryanina, L. P., The structure of meteorite craters and their central uplifts (in Russian). Doklady Akademii Nauk SSSR, v. 238, pp. 195-198. 1978. 22. Khryanina, L. P., Ivanov, O. P., Structure of meteorite craters and astroblemes (in Russian). Doklady Akademii Nauk SSSR, v. 233, pp. 457-460. 1977. 23. Koljonen, T., Rosenberg, R. J., Major
Re: [meteorite-list] Find a Falling Star
Interesting? That's outrageous. Reminds me of the joke about the used car salesman who priced all the cars on the lot at $1,000,000 each. When asked why, he replied, all I need to sell is one. Fortunately, Ed Thompson is selling me a copy at a more reasonable price. Thank you, Ed (and Doug). -Walter (gee, it's nice to be working again!) - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Find a Falling Star On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 19:03:21 -0400, you wrote: Hi Walter, Edwin Thompson (ET) has several copies of both versions in great condition and at friendly prices. I got one from him in February and really appreciated his dealing with me. Interesting things happening with the price of Find a Falling Star right now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/083972229X http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000HQ8EZU http://www.fetchbook.info/find_a_falling_star.html I bought my paperback copy almost exactly 3 years ago-- April 10th 2005, for $19.99 BIN on Ebay from-- Walter Branch. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ....and meteorites at Christie's auction in Paris
Meteorites seem to get more fashionable: http://www.christies.com/LotFinder/lot_details.aspx?from=searchresultsintOb jectID=5062305 Best! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites, Ice and Antartica
Speaking of meteorite books... The first 81 pages of William Cassidy's Meteorite, Ice and Antarctica can be found at Google books. http://books.google.com/ Do a search for Meteorites, Ice and Antarctica and there it is. And if you want to read more about ANSMET: http://www.x-journal.com/journal/ansmet/?xjMsgID=1845 and http://www.humanedgetech.com/expedition/ansmet/showDispatch.php?id=22519exp=258 -Walter Branch __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites, Ice and Antartica
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 22:24:28 -0400, you wrote: Speaking of meteorite books... The first 81 pages of William Cassidy's Meteorite, Ice and Antarctica can be found at Google books. Wow, another meteorite book with skyrocketing prices. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0521258723/ When I bought my copy, used ones cost around 5 bucks. I figured that the price would be similar or lower now, but nope. Crazy, the range of asking prices for books. I usually go for used hardbacks (I especially like ex-public library books because I like the mylar sleeves over the dust jackets). With any given book with a fair press run, prices may range from people expecting less than a dollar to more than 100 dollars for the same edition. Of course, condition matters, but not 100x, and with grading being subjective to the seller, they are all pretty much equal sight-unseen anyway. Here's a book I bought when it was first published, had my copy water-damaged, looked for a replacement, and saw that used prices were double the price I paid for it new. So I wait. A few weeks back, copies show up from a couple of sellers for under 6 bucks a copy. I snatch one up. Brand new copy. I looked just now out of curiosity. Back up to 2x the original new price. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0945005253/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 54, Issue 25
Hi All, Finally after weeks of building, and design! The new MeteoriteWatch.com website is up and running! http://www.meteoritewatch.com/mw/ I'll have the official launch in a few weeks but for now enjoy. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Eric MW __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] How Do You Know It's A Meteorite?----Round Two
List Members, Thanks to those who responded to my question. I've been answering the question for 48 years and to numerous individuals from around the world and was interested in hearing how you are responding to those who ask you. How we respond to this from a person who knows nothing about meteorites may just make the difference in turning them on, or off to meteorites, as well as convincing them that we know what we're talking about. I would still like to hear from those who didn't respond. (Original below.) Thank you very much! Thomas H. Webb Dear List Member, I would like to hear your most convincing response to the layman's question, How do you know it's a meteorite? My best, Thomas You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] How Do You Know It's A Meteorite?----Round Two
I liked Mark Ford's response to this question, but even an educated response like that most likely wouldn't have swayed the guy who asked me that question last. To my suggesting the suspect rock I was showing him might be a meteorite and telling him the probable age of it, his reply was real close to, Oh that is BS. The earth is only 5,000 years old you know.: ) Needless to say, we don't discuss the topic nowadays. He wins, hands down. His reply caught me so far off guard that I couldn't even think of something to say in response back to it. After about 3 or 4 minutes I realized my mouth was still hanging open. Mike On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Thomas Webb wrote: List Members, Thanks to those who responded to my question. I've been answering the question for 48 years and to numerous individuals from around the world and was interested in hearing how you are responding to those who ask you. How we respond to this from a person who knows nothing about meteorites may just make the difference in turning them on, or off to meteorites, as well as convincing them that we know what we're talking about. I would still like to hear from those who didn't respond. (Original below.) Thank you very much! Thomas H. Webb Dear List Member, I would like to hear your most convincing response to the layman's question, How do you know it's a meteorite? My best, Thomas __ __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Auctions Ending Soon! See Highlights, Over $5000.00 up for grabs....
From: michael cottingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:00 PM To: 'michael cottingham' Subject: AD: Auctions Ending Soon! See Highlights, Over $5000.00 up for grabs Hello, I have a 25% off, of everything in my ebay store sale ending soon and these auctions. Worth a look see! Over 5k worth of auctions all started at 0.99 cents! All Auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfbfmtZ1QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ32QQrdZ0QQsabfmts Z1QQsascsZ1QQsassZmeteoriteQ2dcollector Store Link: http://stores.ebay.com/Voyage-Botanica-Natural-History Look At These Beauties and Deals! A Large and Beautiful Slice of a Popular CV3! Must See Inclusions. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212867966 (NEW), NWA 4972, L4-5, Brecciated, 462g, Very Large Specimen! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213119642 A very Rare EL3 From Africa, NWA 2965, 454g, These are great slices and I am getting low! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213120884 Rare Fall BATH FURNACE, Kentucky, L6, 5.99g, Worth Many Hundreds of Dollars! Beautiful Slice. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213122618 MAIN MASS, NWA 4252, LL4-5, Real Nice, 101g, A Really Great Specimen! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213127497 Very Rare BENNETT COUNTY, South Dakota, 2.77g, This is Super Rare and Worth Over $400.00! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213130088 A Great Slice of The Rare LOS ANGELES (LA 002), Martian,0.198g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200213131188 (NEW), NWA 5054, Wholesale Lot, L5, 500g #2, Only at $1.04 ! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212858900 1 Kilo Lot of Unclassified NWA, 1,000g #10 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212860980 AwesomeHammer Stone WORDEN, Michigan, .082g, Nice slice with Crust! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212858889 (NEW), H4, NWA 5052, Lovely Specimen, 14.32g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212858884 (NEW), NWA 4953, L/LL6, LKW, 17.43 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212860984 (NEW) STEINS, New Mexico, L/LL4, 0.37 gram, One of my last pieces! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863578 NWA 2932, Beautiful Mesosiderite, 14.64 gram http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863581 Very Rare EMERY, S. Dakota, Meso, 0.46 gram, Not much left! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863589 Extremely Rare IREDELL,Texas, IIAB Iron,0.69g, A really rare Texas Meteorite with low known weight! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863611 LTKW, SACRAMENTO WASH 002, Az., H4, 4.95g, This piece is really cool! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863612 VALERA, Witnessed Fall From Venezuela, 1.11g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863618 Very Rare INDIAN VALLEY, Va., IIAB Iron,0.61g, RARE RARE RARE and I am down to my last specimens! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863602 Most Sought After! BONITA SPRINGS, FL. 0.41g, Almost out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863594 Super Rare HAMLET, Indiana, LL4 Fall, 0.07g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212863638 (New) NWA 4483, Lunar Feldspathic Specimen http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212885885 VACA MUERTA, Mesosiderite From Chile, 8.58 g http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212860993 Also some great Neolithic Artifacts . Check out these: Neolithic Arrowhead, Lot of 100 Points From Sahara, #5 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212857177 Neolithic Arrowhead/Point, 10 FINE+ QUALITY Points #2 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=200212857159 and many others . Thanks and Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] European/US market comparison
Hi all - From what I can make of it from your comments, the European collectors seem to buy high end specimens, and Europe does not have the broad general market seen here in the U.S. Perhaps this may be ascribed to Barringer Crater and Nininger's work there, supplemented with Bob Haag's and other's more recent efforts. What might lead to a broader European market? My guess would be museum sales of inexpensive slices, and the development of the existing craters in Europe as tourist stops (Kali Jar in Estonia?). good hunting all, with hopes for more peaceful and prosperous times ahead, E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
