[meteorite-list] AD - Alfianello Best Offer
I sale a 20.4 gr. end piece of Alfianello with copy of old labels to the best offer, the person offer high value win. Photo on request Matteo M come Meteorite Meteoriti i...@mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.it http://www.mcomemeteorite.org Mindat Gallery http://www.mindat.org/gallery-5018.html ChinellatoPhoto Servizi Fotografici http://www.chinellatophoto.com -- This Email Was brought to you by WebMail A Netwin Web Based EMail Client http://netwinsite.com/webmail/tag.htm __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] worlds biggest tektite in history -Not
Hi The biggest Muong Nong-type tektites appear to be in the Laos-NE Thailand border and in Hainan. For sure they are very proximal tektites/impactites. I think the microtektite distribution pattern is a better indicator though as it's going to be statistically more reliable. All the evidence points to the Gulf of Tonkin, between Vietnam and Hainan - probably closer to Vietnam. This is a shallow sea (but might not have been sea at the time of impact, not that it would make a lot of difference). A crater in the sea would explain why a 43km +/- crater has not yet been found. In reality I bet this crater has been found on oil field seismic which should criss-cross the whole of this area. Maybe it hasn't been recognised, maybe the 'structure' has been kept secret because of it's possible economic value or maybe it lies in disputed Vietnamese-Chinese waters. I'm pretty sure it's out there though! I do wonder if any trace of rims would show up on bathymetric maps, but there has been a very large sediment input into this area in the last 800,000 years and I would imagine it could easily bury the crater. Interestingly the largest splashforms are found 2000 km away in the Philippines, not proximally in Indochina as one might first expect. Maybe this is because the Philippinite melt sheet was disrupted higher in the atmosphere meaning that philippinites were not immediately acted upon by significant atmospheric forces. The Indochinites probably formed at lower atmospheric levels that might aid breaking up of the largest of bodies. I'm sure there are a number of factors at play though. Same applies to the Chesapeake impact - the largest splashform tektites are 2000 km away in Texas. Aubrey --- On Sun, 13/12/09, Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net wrote: From: Paul H. oxytropidoce...@cox.net Subject: [meteorite-list] worlds biggest tektite in history To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Sunday, 13 December, 2009, 17:38 Phil Morgan wrote: For any interested in this topic, Aubrey Whymark has a nice page on large tektites here http://www.tektites.co.uk/largest_tektites.html . Has anyone tried plotting the locations of the largest known tektites? It seems like, their distribution, especially of the Muong Nong-type tektites, would provide some clues about the type and location of the impact that created them. Best Regrads, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with a meteorite?
Hello List, I am wanting to know if anyone here knows the name of the cathedral in Washington D.C. that has a meteorite mounted in a stained glass window Thanks, Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with ameteorite?
Hi Everyone. It's the National Cathedral..Arlene - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:43 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with ameteorite? Hello List, I am wanting to know if anyone here knows the name of the cathedral in Washington D.C. that has a meteorite mounted in a stained glass window Thanks, Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with ameteorite?
Hi Tim List, I'm posting this again as it appears it didn't go through the first timeIt's the National Cathedral in Washington DC..Arlene - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:43 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with ameteorite? Hello List, I am wanting to know if anyone here knows the name of the cathedral in Washington D.C. that has a meteorite mounted in a stained glass window Thanks, Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Illinois Meteorwrong Announcement/Sort of Ad
I posted a few more really nice pieces, take a look. I do not have very much of this material left. Here is a link to the sale page: http://illinoismeteorites.com/mendotawrongsforsale.htm Best Wishes, Joe K - Original Message From: almi...@localnet.com almi...@localnet.com To: Meteorite List Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, December 5, 2009 10:14:55 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Illinois Meteorwrong Announcement/Sort of Ad Greetings, Some of you may remember a while back that Joe Kerchner found some interesting looking specimens while out meteorite hunting. I was involved in helping him get the specimens to a researcher who has determined they are a good meteorwrong but not a meteorite. Many may remember a number of meteorwrongs we have come a cross in the past like some of the Russian specimens that turned out to be a terrestrial basalt with nickel in it. I feel that Joe's specimens are an excellent meteorwrong and have added a sample to my collection. I thought others might want to contact him and add some also. He is offering some of this material up for sale. I have added a link so you can visit his site and consider some of this material or simply look at it. http://illinoismeteorites.com/mendotawrongsforsale.htm You can also contact him here directly. Have fun! Joe Kerchner illinoismeteori...@gmail.com Not too often you come across material that looks so promising like Joe did but still turns out to not be the real McCoy. This is the sort of item that is fun to add to a collection. All my best! --AL Mitterling Mitterling Meteorites __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - NWA 001 Main Mass and Auctions!
Dear List Members, This week, I am entertaining offers on a very special item; The NWA 001 Main Mass. This historic meteorite marks the beginning of a new era and is the one that started the meteorite 2.0 club. There can only be one serial number 1 and this it. This L6 Chondrite specimen, weighing in at a 262 grams is the largest NWA 001 piece in existence. I will accept the highest reasonable offer or load it on eBay if one fails to materialize. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity for the serious collector. Here are links to this historical specimen. http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA001-a.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA001-b.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA001-c.jpg http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA001-d.jpg Do not forget to check out this weeks eBay auctions. There is lots of great stuff started at just 99 cents including many planetary specimens Click on this link for some serious bargains: http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/raremeteorites!_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZ Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, I wish you the best of luck, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Huge NWA Iron, clearance sale AD
Dear List Members, Up for sale, a 15250g excellent NWA Iron, it was found in Zag region in 2008. Pictures here : http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814091/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814087/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814103/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814099/sizes/o/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/21003...@n03/3062814095/sizes/o/ $11k or best offer. My best Aziz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD.Gibeon 74.5 kg +
Hi list, Huge Gibeon over 74 KG. with free shipping any where in the world. http://gaiawonders.com/Gibeon.aspx Thanks, Hans Dal Molin Imca member #6580 _ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ammonia as an impact marker
Hi all - At last, not Willamette. http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-12/uok-ksp120909.php If anyone wants a copy of an image of a cast of the Trempealeau petroglyph, which may show comet fragment impacts, contact me off list. Wednesday's AGU session promises to be really interesting. E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Dear Listees: It's hard to believe, but the 2010 Tucson Gem Show is only six weeks away. My 2010 gem show guide website has been completely updated and I hope those of you coming to Tucson will find it a useful resource: http://www.tucsongemandmineralshows.net It includes the following: - Dates, venues, and contact info for all shows - Hotel recommendations - Restaurant, bar and club guide - Tips on great day trips from Tucson - Articles, photos, and tips about the shows I continue to work with the publishers of the Tucson EZ-Guide and we recommend this free, full-color book as the best companion for the Tucson show experience. Copies can be picked up free from any show venue, beginning in late January: http://www.tucsongemandmineralshows.net/tucson-ez-guide.htm The 11th Annual Meteor Mayhem Birthday Bash will take place on Friday, Feb. 5 and we are working on a rather exciting new venue. Details when we have them. As usual, Michael Blood's auction will take place on the following day. Once again, I'll be exhibiting in Room 230 at the InnSuites with the fabulous Anne Black. PLEASE NOTE: the hotel name has changed and the InnSuites is now known as the Hotel Tucson City Center, for some reason. Phone number and address remain the same. I am also pleased to announce that my friend Chris Cokinos, author of the wonderful new meteorite book The Fallen Sky will be doing a book signing and meet- and-greet in our room that same weekend. Details TBA. And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) And finally the good news: I-10 highway improvements are finished and all downtown exits are open. So, that means just the *usual* traffic problems in 2010 : ) With best wishes, Geoff N. www.aerolite.org www.meteoritemen.com www.meteoriteblog.org __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon
Organic compounds are found in comets and carbonaceous chondrites; this has been verified many times. The Moon has undoubtedly been pummeled by this space debris many times in the past, leaving traces behind. It's a pretty far stretch to call it life, however; you may as well say life exists anywhere you can find these molecules, including airless asteroids and deep-frozen comets. I don't know if this is reporter hype or simple ignorance. We've seen both types. Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 12:26:07 -0500 From: oxytropidoce...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon Indian scientists detect signs of life on Moon by Bhargavi Kerur, DNA, Read the World, december 12, 2009 http://www.dnaindia.com/scitech/report_indian-scientists-detect-signs-of-life-on-moon_1322785 Life on the moon, The Irish Times, December 12, 2009 http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1212/1224260586652.html Sounds like a reporter is getting carried away with his imagination. Does anyone know anything about the claim in the first article that: However, traces of amino acids, which are basic to life, were found in the soil retrieved by the Apollo-11 astronauts.? Yours, Paul H. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141665/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE - 192g Moss and 159g Hambleton
Hambleton is particularly interesting, as it was found by one of our own, Rob Elliot. Once Fernlea Meteorites folded, however, I have no idea what happened to either the main mass or any subsequent slices. At one point I was hoping to buy some crumbs from him, as this pallasite had a very thick oxidized rind and was prone to spalling off fragments. I'm glad to see there is at least one slice out there! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:43:42 +0100 From: mjma...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] SALE - 192g Moss and 159g Hambleton For anyone who may be interested, I have large pieces of both Moss (CO3.5) and Hambleton (Pallasite) currently listed on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemItem=170416693146 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemItem=170416304736 Both auctions close in less than 2 days. Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - eBay auctions closing shortly
I have a few auctions closing shortly including DAG 400 Lunar unbid at $500/gm, Mundrabilla and silicated iron slices, a 148 gram CV3 unbid at less than $1.70/gm. See them all and more at http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=katy2kary -- Eric Olson 610 W. Moore Rd Tucson AZ 85755 http://www.star-bits.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. From what I have heard, Tucson has not lifted a finger to prevent the largest promoter from leaving and taking several thousand vendors with him. Do not underestimate Las Vegas, they have a way of getting what they want and they are already in a position to take. They are very hungry right now and an additional $100,000,000 in annual revenues is pretty attractive. They could accommodate this show very easily, cater much better to vendor needs and much cheaper. Here is the link to NASCAR discussing their move to Las Vegas: http://www.cbssports.com/autoracing/story/12615099/nascars-las-vegas-banquet-bet-pays-off I hope the Tucson City Council members take note and makes the Gem and Mineral show a better experience. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi all, Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) Personally, if the show moves to Las Vegas, I won't go. 2010 will be my 6th (straight) show, and I have tentative plans to go (to Tucson) for many more years but I won't go to Las Vegas, even once. Just my personal opinion/reaction to Las Vegas (yes, I've been there on a vacation tour). Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Carl, I hope you are right about Tucson. Las Vegas already has a world class annual gem show, just not a mineral show. There are several Gem and Mineral shows across the world but only one can be the largest. I saw plenty of empty rooms for vendors at the hotels last year so there was no waiting in line as used to be the case. If Las Vegas wanted to host the world's largest gem and mineral show, I am sure they could do so without much problem. It would be like taking a sucker away from a baby. So many take great shows for granted, just to lose them when a more reasonable and exciting venue appears. The Tucson show has been going down hill for years so maybe it is time for the City Council to start listening. Part of the charm of Tucson was walking from room to room and checking out the goods. Several of the old hotels that could accommodate this kind of foot traffic have been turned into low-income housing. The replacement hotels are not designed with the Gem and Mineral show in mind so the charm is leaving regardless and the show seems to be dying slowly. Ad in the terrible rise in the crime rate and very few venture out at night like they used to. I just want to attend at least one more time before all of the charm is gone or the show has died. Maybe it isn't too late for something to be done. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Adam, You may be right but consider this. Nascar is a one trick pony. It has nobody to replace them. So off they go to Vegas. Seems very wise to me. Tucson is a completely different animal. If anyone leaves any venue in Tucson there are ten others in line to take there place. Seriously. any of the many gem shows leaving Tucson would be suicidal. It would be like venders pulling out of Costco. You would have to be an idiot to do that. Like The Tucson Gem show, there would be many in line to take your spot. After all to be in Costco selling your product means instant success. Vegas will never replace Tucson. What would happen if Vegas takes off is that there would be one more gem show to attend. It would never replace Tucson but would add to the chain of regularly scheduled shows that dealers would be forced to attend. Potentially doubling overhead and breaking some dealers. There are only so many buyers and having two shows might be a bit much. Besides all that. IMHO. Vegas is for Vegas type stuff. There are only so many black chips to go around. It would be like moving the Gem show to Disneyland. Too many distractions. Peeps don't go to Disneyland to buy rocks and gems. No, I think Tucson may be like EBay or Costco. they basically own the market and only a fool would leave. And one other thing. Tucson is going to be building yet another bridge across the freeway in the down town area. This will greatly benefit the gem show goers. My 2 cents. Thanks Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. From what I have heard, Tucson has not lifted a finger to prevent the largest promoter from leaving and taking several thousand vendors with him. Do not underestimate Las Vegas, they have a way of getting what they want and they are already in a position to take. They are very hungry right now and an additional $100,000,000 in annual revenues is pretty attractive. They could accommodate this show very easily, cater much better to vendor needs and much cheaper. Here is the link to NASCAR discussing their move to Las Vegas: http://www.cbssports.com/autoracing/story/12615099/nascars-las-vegas-banquet-bet-pays-off I hope the Tucson City Council members take note and makes the Gem and Mineral show a better experience. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Just to counter this view, if the show moved to Vegas, I would go every year -- and enjoy staying in fabulous hotels at the same price as a flea-infested 1-star in Tucson during the show. Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed every one of my Tucson visits, but the hotel/ motel price-jacking during the show is a serious sore point with me. I think we all know what $130/night for a hotel will get you in Tucson in early February. For that same price or less, you can stay in any one of a dozen 4-star hotels on the Strip. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Edwards Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:07 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Hi all, Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) Personally, if the show moves to Las Vegas, I won't go. 2010 will be my 6th (straight) show, and I have tentative plans to go (to Tucson) for many more years but I won't go to Las Vegas, even once. Just my personal opinion/reaction to Las Vegas (yes, I've been there on a vacation tour). Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
HI Rob, $130 a night will rent you a 1-bedroom seaside beach cottage down here in Florida. (a nice one) Is that really what they charge out there for a little Motel 8 room? No wonder everyone needs thousands of dollars to attend the show. When I finally make it out there, I will definitely stay in our RV. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 12/14/09, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Just to counter this view, if the show moved to Vegas, I would go every year -- and enjoy staying in fabulous hotels at the same price as a flea-infested 1-star in Tucson during the show. Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed every one of my Tucson visits, but the hotel/ motel price-jacking during the show is a serious sore point with me. I think we all know what $130/night for a hotel will get you in Tucson in early February. For that same price or less, you can stay in any one of a dozen 4-star hotels on the Strip. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Edwards Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:07 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Hi all, Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) Personally, if the show moves to Las Vegas, I won't go. 2010 will be my 6th (straight) show, and I have tentative plans to go (to Tucson) for many more years but I won't go to Las Vegas, even once. Just my personal opinion/reaction to Las Vegas (yes, I've been there on a vacation tour). Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- . Michael Gilmer (Florida, USA) Member of the Meteoritical Society. Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com FaceBook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone MySpace - http://www.myspace.com/fine_meteorites_4_sale Twitter - Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone eBay - http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/maypickle .. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Just curious of anyone has heard anything from the organizers of the 41 other Tucson shows about leaving Tucson for LV or is it still just the one high end gem show that we're talking about? Has there been any update on the threat by that show's organizers since their original one a few months ago? With the exception of Adam, all I've heard is a deafening silence from all involved... -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. withameteorite?
Tim, Arlene's got the name right and it's a great place to visit. Rather than a meteorite though, it's actually lunar rock presented to the Cathedral by the Apollo 11 astronauts! Unless there's a meteorite in addition to that. If you search National Cathedral Space Window, you'll get all kinds of info. The Cathedral gift shop actually sells a small reproduction of the window, which I just had to have. ;^) Linton - Original Message - From: Arlene Schlazer pieb...@cox.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. withameteorite? Hi Tim List, I'm posting this again as it appears it didn't go through the first timeIt's the National Cathedral in Washington DC..Arlene - Original Message - From: Timothy Heitz midw...@meteorman.org To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 7:43 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question - Cathedral in Washington D.C. with ameteorite? Hello List, I am wanting to know if anyone here knows the name of the cathedral in Washington D.C. that has a meteorite mounted in a stained glass window Thanks, Tim Heitz __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hello Adam and all, Do you know that the Las Vegas Gem Show used to be a full-fledged Rocks and Minerals Show years ago? I had many occasions to talk to some of the largest mineral dealers doing that Show, and I was told repeatedly that it was a very poor Show financially and attendance. Probably because the public was distracted by the other attractions of Vegas. Maybe it is why it was down-sized to a Gem only Show. And I do know a gem dealer who is considering dropping it because it is not worth his time. And if the Tucson Show moves to Vegas, I will probably stop doing it too. And Yes, I have been in Vegas many times, it is an amusing place from an architectural point of view, and shopping is pretty good, but that's about it. And I just checked _www.Hotels.com_ (http://www.Hotels.com) , there is still half a dozen hotels (Super 8, Comfort Inn,) with rooms for less than $100 a night for the weekend of Feb 4 to Feb. 8. The Big Weekend. Now about the Real Tucson Show. I have been very busy preparing it too, Only six weeks Time flies. I have way too much inventory, so for the first time ever I will have a Sales/Bargains corner with a very wide assortment of things, even a few thin-sections. Speaking of Thin-Sections, I will have ET's collection with me in addition to my own, so that's about 800 thin-sections. And I might receive another batch before the show. And I will have a couple surprises in Exclusivity. More about that very soon. And Alain Carion has a new book out just in time for Tucson, and since I had the pleasure to translate it, I will have the pleasure to present it in Tucson. And I am sure I am forgetting a lot of other things. More soon. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 12/14/2009 11:22:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, raremeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Anne, That is funny. I have heard from several dealers who do the Tucson the same thing. They say the income was so poor that they couldn't even make the show fees and that they will never be back again. The only dealers I have not heard complaints from were at the Inn Suites. They say the same thing year after year but they do keep coming back. I guess everything is relative. They only reason I know anything at all about the Las Vegas Gem show is that while on Spring break there a few years ago, I talked to a vendor who became an instant millionaire selling yellow diamonds and bort. He sold out in three days and was enjoying his rewards over some pretty hefty drinks on a sidewalk bar where is he was buying everybody rounds. I never went that show so I can't speak about how successful it was or if it would even be fun to attend. The economy is holding back a lot dealers right now so maybe things will be more positive next year. Do not get me wrong, I hope the Tucson show survives as I can go to Las Vegas any time. I just wish they would improve the show and make it better for patrons who for the most part are now taken for granted. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: geok...@notkin.net Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 12:25:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Hello Adam and all, Do you know that the Las Vegas Gem Show used to be a full-fledged Rocks and Minerals Show years ago? I had many occasions to talk to some of the largest mineral dealers doing that Show, and I was told repeatedly that it was a very poor Show financially and attendance. Probably because the public was distracted by the other attractions of Vegas. Maybe it is why it was down-sized to a Gem only Show. And I do know a gem dealer who is considering dropping it because it is not worth his time. And if the Tucson Show moves to Vegas, I will probably stop doing it too. And Yes, I have been in Vegas many times, it is an amusing place from an architectural point of view, and shopping is pretty good, but that's about it. And I just checked _www.Hotels.com_ (http://www.Hotels.com) , there is still half a dozen hotels (Super 8, Comfort Inn,) with rooms for less than $100 a night for the weekend of Feb 4 to Feb. 8. The Big Weekend. Now about the Real Tucson Show. I have been very busy preparing it too, Only six weeks Time flies. I have way too much inventory, so for the first time ever I will have a Sales/Bargains corner with a very wide assortment of things, even a few thin-sections. Speaking of Thin-Sections, I will have ET's collection with me in addition to my own, so that's about 800 thin-sections. And I might receive another batch before the show. And I will have a couple surprises in Exclusivity. More about that very soon. And Alain Carion has a new book out just in time for Tucson, and since I had the pleasure to translate it, I will have the pleasure to present it in Tucson. And I am sure I am forgetting a lot of other things. More soon. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 12/14/2009 11:22:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, raremeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Carl, Rob, It all depends on when you go to either cities. Tucson's February weather makes it the peak tourist season. In a town filled with world class golf courses people are willing to pay for what they get. I would be willing to pay for what I get also. But when you consider that I live in southern California where I have fabulous weather pretty much all year, I don't go to Tucson for the weather. Or the golf. (Sorry, dude, but are you really going to compare Tucson golf courses to California or Las Vegas? Stone Canyon in Oro Valley is the only Tucson-area course worthy of particular mention, and it's private.) If you want cheap? No. I want REASONABLE. I don't stay in cheap hotels unless there is no other choice. Go to Tucson during the Summer and then compare room rates with Vegas. This isn't relevant -- we're talking about staying at the time of the Tucson Show, not the time of year when it's cheapest to stay there. Vegas is higher during the Summer than Tucson is. Yes, but it is NEVER higher at any time of the year than Tucson is during the Show. World Class Gambling aside, Tucson is a Much, Much better place to be than Vegas anytime! Carl Well, you live there, as do a huge number of list members, so obviously Tucson has a lot going for it. But you seem to think that Vegas is nothing but gambling, and here you are wrong. Golf, top entertainment, fabulous hotels and shopping, spectacular swimming pools, and some of the best restaurants in the world. --Rob __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
I see Rob is commenting about a reply Carl made that apparently hasn't yet made it to the list. I'll add just a couple of my own comments within their text Richard --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Hi Carl, Rob, It all depends on when you go to either cities. Tucson's February weather makes it the peak tourist season. In a town filled with world class golf courses people are willing to pay for what they get. I would be willing to pay for what I get also. But when you consider that I live in southern California where I have fabulous weather pretty much all year, I don't go to Tucson for the weather. Or the golf. (Sorry, dude, but are you really going to compare Tucson golf courses to California or Las Vegas? Stone Canyon in Oro Valley is the only Tucson-area course worthy of particular mention, and it's private.) The Accenture Match Play (PGA Tour) is at the Ritz-Carlton Golf Club, Dove Mountain and starts immediately after the Tucson showS. The place is pretty packed for that event, but without TW, it may be slightly more quiet this year. The Tucson Rode happens shortly after the showS too, so February really is the busiest month for tourism in Tucson. But you seem to think that Vegas is nothing but gambling, and here you are wrong. Golf, top entertainment, fabulous hotels and shopping, spectacular swimming pools, and some of the best restaurants in the world. --Rob I may be wrong, but all of these OTHER distractions, clamboring for buyer's money, plus the added incentives to cause the spouse and children to come along, would absolutely terrify me if I were a dealer. In such a thin market, do I really want my potential buyers spending their money at all of these other attractions, or would I want them in my room, spending their money with me? As I asked previously, has anyone heard anything about this one show leaving Tucson since the original threat? BTW, I spoke to a person who is a member of the trade organization that organizes that one show. He said unless you are a member of the organization, you CAN'T get into the show. I suspect few if any of the subscribers of this list are members of that organization, so if they do move their show to LV. YOU won't be able to get into it either. Does it really matter to you if a show you can't attend moves to LV, or any other city for that matter? While I'd hate to see any show leave Tucson, I suspect if they do leave, the space they free up will be rapidly filled by other dealers who want to sell to the public, not just to each other... Richard __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show
Damn! Adam, I thik I'll just kill myself! Oh, ya, it's that ol' Yesterday was so much better phenomenon. While I must admit I resent the hell out of the way Tucson fails to Provide decent traffic and parking accommodations, you must admit That there are still so damned many rooms you could not walk in and Out, spending an average of 5 min. in each and still cover the Show in A week. I hear rumors Tucson has actually fixed all the on and off ramps - That's a start I don't know what you were doing and finding in Tucson 5 years Ago, but it is pretty much the same to me - perhaps your being ripped Off by one of the hotels has soured you, Adam. Come on now, and get ready to have a GREAT Tucson Show! It has Been the best thing that my wife and I do together every year (with the Exception of her mother's death last show). It is a place you can relax, Go to bed early, no TV, too many friends to be able to have dinner or Even lunch and dinner with all of them, FABULOUS meteorites always Showing up, Geoff and Anne Black beating their old standard Of organization and professionalism year after year. Hell, how can you NOT have the time of your life? Common, now, Adam... Get with it or we will all hold you down And tickle you! Best wishes, Michael On 12/14/09 11:44 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Carl, I hope you are right about Tucson. Las Vegas already has a world class annual gem show, just not a mineral show. There are several Gem and Mineral shows across the world but only one can be the largest. I saw plenty of empty rooms for vendors at the hotels last year so there was no waiting in line as used to be the case. If Las Vegas wanted to host the world's largest gem and mineral show, I am sure they could do so without much problem. It would be like taking a sucker away from a baby. So many take great shows for granted, just to lose them when a more reasonable and exciting venue appears. The Tucson show has been going down hill for years so maybe it is time for the City Council to start listening. Part of the charm of Tucson was walking from room to room and checking out the goods. Several of the old hotels that could accommodate this kind of foot traffic have been turned into low-income housing. The replacement hotels are not designed with the Gem and Mineral show in mind so the charm is leaving regardless and the show seems to be dying slowly. Ad in the terrible rise in the crime rate and very few venture out at night like they used to. I just want to attend at least one more time before all of the charm is gone or the show has died. Maybe it isn't too late for something to be done. Best Regards, Adam - Original Message From: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Adam, You may be right but consider this. Nascar is a one trick pony. It has nobody to replace them. So off they go to Vegas. Seems very wise to me. Tucson is a completely different animal. If anyone leaves any venue in Tucson there are ten others in line to take there place. Seriously. any of the many gem shows leaving Tucson would be suicidal. It would be like venders pulling out of Costco. You would have to be an idiot to do that. Like The Tucson Gem show, there would be many in line to take your spot. After all to be in Costco selling your product means instant success. Vegas will never replace Tucson. What would happen if Vegas takes off is that there would be one more gem show to attend. It would never replace Tucson but would add to the chain of regularly scheduled shows that dealers would be forced to attend. Potentially doubling overhead and breaking some dealers. There are only so many buyers and having two shows might be a bit much. Besides all that. IMHO. Vegas is for Vegas type stuff. There are only so many black chips to go around. It would be like moving the Gem show to Disneyland. Too many distractions. Peeps don't go to Disneyland to buy rocks and gems. No, I think Tucson may be like EBay or Costco. they basically own the market and only a fool would leave. And one other thing. Tucson is going to be building yet another bridge across the freeway in the down town area. This will greatly benefit the gem show goers. My 2 cents. Thanks Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Everyone: I went to Tucson for the first time last year and stayed in a Motel 6. I booked the room last minute for around $56 dollars a night. Went I arrived and checked-in, the hotel clerk said There's been in a price change on your room since you made the reservations. I said Oh really? He said It's now $35.00 a night! Anita __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater
Hi Mike and list, coming from a family of farmers in Ohio, (and deer hunters,) It looks from the photos that there are a lot of animal tracks around it, I would ask the farmer if salt blocks were placed there for years. The animals will dig a pit after many years! even a couple. If he says No, Get a back hole and dig! Dave --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:37 PM Hi Guys, I was wondering around the fields of Lancaster PA near the high mass zone of the newly computed fall line and happened across a really weird hole. The hole is 5 feet wide, 6 feet long and about 16 inches deep. I posted pictures and information here: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/baltimore-pa-meteor/its-not-a-crater/ I'm not saying this is a crater by any means and I understand that meteorites do not make craters 99.9% of the time, however I still think its really weird and I wanted to get some feedback as to what you guys think. Please read the post and look at the pictures and lmk your thoughts. Thanks, Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater
Dave, Thanks for the reply. This is a cow pasture and there are a lot of hoof prints in and around the hole (around the entire field really). I will ask him about the salt blocks. The pasture is fenced in, so if he did leave anything out, it wouldn't be for deer, but only cows. Thanks, Mike On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Mike and list, coming from a family of farmers in Ohio, (and deer hunters,) It looks from the photos that there are a lot of animal tracks around it, I would ask the farmer if salt blocks were placed there for years. The animals will dig a pit after many years! even a couple. If he says No, Get a back hole and dig! Dave --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:37 PM Hi Guys, I was wondering around the fields of Lancaster PA near the high mass zone of the newly computed fall line and happened across a really weird hole. The hole is 5 feet wide, 6 feet long and about 16 inches deep. I posted pictures and information here: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/baltimore-pa-meteor/its-not-a-crater/ I'm not saying this is a crater by any means and I understand that meteorites do not make craters 99.9% of the time, however I still think its really weird and I wanted to get some feedback as to what you guys think. Please read the post and look at the pictures and lmk your thoughts. Thanks, Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Mike G, Robert and all, MOST people who are single (and some couples) SHARE a motel room (most have double King beds) And some singles go 3 or 4 to a room, making the Show quite affordable. If you have an RV, you can park the entire time In the Inn Suites huge dirt parking area (I believe). Of course, you will have to go to an RV place to dump And get water - ALL RV on Grant near Oracle is Excellent and provides services as well. 520.622.1578 - Tell them Michael Blood sent you - it may or may not Get you a SLIGHTLY better rate on services. Those who like to stay at an RV court, there is one Near Prince Whispering Palms 520.888.2500, but we Stopped going there when they made an off handed racist Comment once. Otherwise, it is a very nice place and Easy to get to off the freeway, just a few minutes from Inn Suites. Best wishes, Michael On 12/14/09 11:57 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: HI Rob, $130 a night will rent you a 1-bedroom seaside beach cottage down here in Florida. (a nice one) Is that really what they charge out there for a little Motel 8 room? No wonder everyone needs thousands of dollars to attend the show. When I finally make it out there, I will definitely stay in our RV. Best regards and clear skies, MikeG On 12/14/09, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote: Just to counter this view, if the show moved to Vegas, I would go every year -- and enjoy staying in fabulous hotels at the same price as a flea-infested 1-star in Tucson during the show. Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed every one of my Tucson visits, but the hotel/ motel price-jacking during the show is a serious sore point with me. I think we all know what $130/night for a hotel will get you in Tucson in early February. For that same price or less, you can stay in any one of a dozen 4-star hotels on the Strip. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Edwards Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:07 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Hi all, Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) Personally, if the show moves to Las Vegas, I won't go. 2010 will be my 6th (straight) show, and I have tentative plans to go (to Tucson) for many more years but I won't go to Las Vegas, even once. Just my personal opinion/reaction to Las Vegas (yes, I've been there on a vacation tour). Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show
Hi Michael, Admittedly, I have developed somewhat of a negative attitude towards the Tucson show the last few years. I remember many years ago when I could hardly wait to return the following year I had so much fun. I used to actually feel depressed when the show was over. I treated the Tucson show as a vacation and a chance to get out of the rain when I lived in Washington. What changed it for me over time was being ripped off a couple of times by motels like the Econolodge who stole over $800.00 from my Credit Card account. It took me six months to clear this up. The East Indian owner forgot how to speak English when it came time to reconcile this thievery. The city of Tucson did nothing about it after numerous complaints and this flee bag motel is still operating. Another time, a place advertised on-line as being a 2-star operation did not know how to clean their rooms. We found a crack pipe and some other paraphernalia hidden in the oven. The room was not even vacuumed as there were pennies lying on top of the carpet and an unmentionable corn-laden object floating in the toilet stinking up the entire room. To top it off, we had a neighboring tenant who banged his head against the wall all night, every night. I don't know if this was drug induced or a mental illness. Needless to say, we tried like hell to find a different motel/hotel but all were over booked becuase there was not enough rooms in Tucson to host this large of a show. Maybe the rooms we got stuck in were unfortunate circumstances. I have never had the problems while staying at the Westward Look in Tucson but at $280.00 a night, I would hope not. The only place I have seen similar room conditions is in Barstow and then they are not hosting an international event or pretending to be a two-star operation. We brought a couple to the show, for their first time, two years ago and it is doubtful they will return after witnessing some poor guy taking a beating behind their hotel room. They think he may have been mugged. This is not the kind of impression that is good for long-term business. Although there are many problems with Tucson, I think these issues could be resolved if managed properly to make the show a long-term success. As it stands now, the only thing that brings me back to Tucson year-after-year are fellow meteorite enthusiasts. It is the best opportunity to meet people with similar interests. Hoping the 2010 show will be blast - Best Regards, Adam Maybe the weather is not enough to entice me anymore as there is no such thing as a winter here in Laughlin where it never snows or rarely rains for that matter. Maybe, I am spoiled from living in a town that is totally dependent on hospitality and hosts 6 million visitors a year. This little town of ~8,000 residents would not survive if they didn't know how to treat people well. They made the place safe even though the largest biker rally on the west coast is held here every year. They learned from past mistakes and maintain 1/50th the national average for crime rate. Bikers are welcomed here but must not wear their colors because it could cause tension with other gangs. Visitors are here to have fun, not get ripped off. - Original Message From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 2:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Damn! Adam, I thik I'll just kill myself! Oh, ya, it's that ol' Yesterday was so much better phenomenon. While I must admit I resent the hell out of the way Tucson fails to Provide decent traffic and parking accommodations, you must admit That there are still so damned many rooms you could not walk in and Out, spending an average of 5 min. in each and still cover the Show in A week. I hear rumors Tucson has actually fixed all the on and off ramps - That's a start I don't know what you were doing and finding in Tucson 5 years Ago, but it is pretty much the same to me - perhaps your being ripped Off by one of the hotels has soured you, Adam. Come on now, and get ready to have a GREAT Tucson Show! It has Been the best thing that my wife and I do together every year (with the Exception of her mother's death last show). It is a place you can relax, Go to bed early, no TV, too many friends to be able to have dinner or Even lunch and dinner with all of them, FABULOUS meteorites always Showing up, Geoff and Anne Black beating their old standard Of organization and professionalism year after year. Hell, how can you NOT have the time of your life? Common, now, Adam... Get with it or we will all hold you down And tickle you! Best wishes, Michael On 12/14/09 11:44 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Carl, I hope you are right about Tucson. Las Vegas already has a world class annual
Re: [meteorite-list] Michael Blood Auction - Tucson 2010 Show
Thanks, Greg, Good point about dealers buying at the auction - Dudes! If a DEALER is bidding, you KNOW it is well Below what it will retail for They MUST mark up Well over cost BECAUSE: 1 - They are tying up capital 2 - Until it sells, they have LOST money 3 - They nearly always make a new label, put it in A nice display case, etc. 4 - The BIG issue is they may have money tied up In an item for a few days, a few weeks, a few months Or even a few years. So, when you are a collector and dealers are bidding It is a DEAD GIVEAWAY that you would get the best Possible price if you bid on the item. I have always been amazed to hear collectors complain That the dealers are buying everything. Well, figure it out: If they are buying it, it is because it is well below what they Will sell it for - therefore, the best possible bargain you will Find on that fall or find. By the way: I am adding 25 ADDITIONAL items today, Bringing the total to about 75 right now - so, there is still room For more..Greg? Others? The range as of today is from low two digit specimens To 3 and 4 digit specimens. Something for every pocket book. Please contact me off list for acceptability of items you Would be interested in offering. Best wishes, Michael On 12/14/09 3:35 PM, Greg Hupe gmh...@htn.net wrote: Hi Michael, Michael, you skipped the perfect opportunity to draw attention to the famous (and infamous), Michael Blood Tucson Meteorite Auction with your reply to the List regarding the possibility of the Mineral Show dumping Tucson for Vegas!! Since Captain Blood has other Captainly duties on his ship, I will draw your attention to Michael Blood's 2010 Tucson Auction page: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/TucsonAuction10.html Typically, I feel, the Denver and Tucson Show auctions are a 'give-back' to collectors as items always sell for way less than any time else, which includes; web sites, eBay or the like. These auctions are a great place to pick some very excellent deals!!! Often, however, dealers are the ones who see the true value of these items at the 'Shows' and out-bid the other participants in order to re-sell the items later... I plan to make it to the Tucson Show in 2010. After missing 2009's Show due to other adventures, I look forward to meeting up with old and new friends! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) gmh...@htn.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Michael Blood mlbl...@cox.net To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Damn! Adam, I thik I'll just kill myself! Oh, ya, it's that ol' Yesterday was so much better phenomenon. While I must admit I resent the hell out of the way Tucson fails to Provide decent traffic and parking accommodations, you must admit That there are still so damned many rooms you could not walk in and Out, spending an average of 5 min. in each and still cover the Show in A week. I hear rumors Tucson has actually fixed all the on and off ramps - That's a start I don't know what you were doing and finding in Tucson 5 years Ago, but it is pretty much the same to me - perhaps your being ripped Off by one of the hotels has soured you, Adam. Come on now, and get ready to have a GREAT Tucson Show! It has Been the best thing that my wife and I do together every year (with the Exception of her mother's death last show). It is a place you can relax, Go to bed early, no TV, too many friends to be able to have dinner or Even lunch and dinner with all of them, FABULOUS meteorites always Showing up, Geoff and Anne Black beating their old standard Of organization and professionalism year after year. Hell, how can you NOT have the time of your life? Common, now, Adam... Get with it or we will all hold you down And tickle you! Best wishes, Michael On 12/14/09 11:44 AM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Carl, I hope you are right about Tucson. Las Vegas already has a world class annual gem show, just not a mineral show. There are several Gem and Mineral shows across the world but only one can be the largest. I saw plenty of empty rooms for vendors at the hotels last year so there was no waiting in line as used to be the case. If Las Vegas wanted to host the world's largest gem and mineral show, I am sure they could do so without much problem. It would be like taking a sucker away from a baby. So many take great shows for granted, just to lose them when a more reasonable and exciting venue appears. The Tucson show has been going down hill for years
Re: [meteorite-list] SALE - 192g Moss and 159g Hambleton
Hi Tracey, Earlier in the year I had the privilege of holding the main mass of Hambleton on a visit to Robs collection just before his auction where most of his collection was sold. At the auction the main masses of Hambleton did not sell, so I assume Rob still has them unless he had offers following the auction. http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx244/Graham-Ensor/P1040809.jpg Graham, UK tracy latimer daist...@hotmail.com wrote: Hambleton is particularly interesting, as it was found by one of our own, Rob Elliot. Once Fernlea Meteorites folded, however, I have no idea what happened to either the main mass or any subsequent slices. At one point I was hoping to buy some crumbs from him, as this pallasite had a very thick oxidized rind and was prone to spalling off fragments. I'm glad to see there is at least one slice out there! Best! Tracy Latimer Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:43:42 +0100 From: mjma...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] SALE - 192g Moss and 159g Hambleton For anyone who may be interested, I have large pieces of both Moss (CO3.5) and Hambleton (Pallasite) currently listed on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemItem=170416693146 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemItem=170416304736 Both auctions close in less than 2 days. Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ho-hum, more planets.
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[meteorite-list] Brain Mason - the passing of another of the greats
Hello All, I thought I should pass this forward. My father just informed me that Brian Mason's obituary appeared in today's copy of the LA times; he passed December 3rd of this year. He published countless publications and a number of well-received books over the past several decades and was a major contributor to the modern field of meteoritics. He'll most likely be best remembered for his book Meteorites published back in 1962, a work that's still often referenced today. An all too-short biography can be found here. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/meteorites/2/5 Best, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Rob, It all depends on when you go to either cities. Tucson's February weather makes it the peak tourist season. In a town filled with world class golf coarses people are willing to pay for what they get. You don't have to shovel sunshine. If you want cheap? Go to Tucson during the Summer and then compare room rates with Vegas. Vegas is higher during the Summer than Tucson is. Why? Because it is there busiest season. The Hotels are kept very cool and there is nothing else to do there but stay inside and gamble in the Summer time. Tucson will soon have the largest Ritz Carlton Hotel in the World (opening this January). They did not chose to build it in Tucson because of the casinos. World Class Gambling aside, Tucson is a Much, Much better place to be than Vegas anytime! Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Matson wrote: Just to counter this view, if the show moved to Vegas, I would go every year -- and enjoy staying in fabulous hotels at the same price as a flea-infested 1-star in Tucson during the show. Don't get me wrong -- I've enjoyed every one of my Tucson visits, but the hotel/ motel price-jacking during the show is a serious sore point with me. I think we all know what $130/night for a hotel will get you in Tucson in early February. For that same price or less, you can stay in any one of a dozen 4-star hotels on the Strip. --Rob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Don Edwards Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 11:07 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News Hi all, Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) Personally, if the show moves to Las Vegas, I won't go. 2010 will be my 6th (straight) show, and I have tentative plans to go (to Tucson) for many more years but I won't go to Las Vegas, even once. Just my personal opinion/reaction to Las Vegas (yes, I've been there on a vacation tour). Don __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Adam, You may be right but consider this. Nascar is a one trick pony. It has nobody to replace them. So off they go to Vegas. Seems very wise to me. Tucson is a completely different animal. If anyone leaves any venue in Tucson there are ten others in line to take there place. Seriously. any of the many gem shows leaving Tucson would be suicidal. It would be like venders pulling out of Costco. You would have to be an idiot to do that. Like The Tucson Gem show, there would be many in line to take your spot. After all to be in Costco selling your product means instant success. Vegas will never replace Tucson. What would happen if Vegas takes off is that there would be one more gem show to attend. It would never replace Tucson but would add to the chain of regularly scheduled shows that dealers would be forced to attend. Potentially doubling overhead and breaking some dealers. There are only so many buyers and having two shows might be a bit much. Besides all that. IMHO. Vegas is for Vegas type stuff. There are only so many black chips to go around. It would be like moving the Gem show to Disneyland. Too many distractions. Peeps don't go to Disneyland to buy rocks and gems. No, I think Tucson may be like EBay or Costco. they basically own the market and only a fool would leave. And one other thing. Tucson is going to be building yet another bridge across the freeway in the down town area. This will greatly benefit the gem show goers. My 2 cents. Thanks Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. From what I have heard, Tucson has not lifted a finger to prevent the largest promoter from leaving and taking several thousand vendors with him. Do not underestimate Las Vegas, they have a way of getting what they want and they are already in a position to take. They are very hungry right now and an additional $100,000,000 in annual revenues is pretty attractive. They could accommodate this show very easily, cater much better to vendor needs and much cheaper. Here is the link to NASCAR discussing their move to Las Vegas: http://www.cbssports.com/autoracing/story/12615099/nascars-las-vegas-banquet-bet-pays-off I hope the Tucson City Council members take note and makes the Gem and Mineral show a better experience. Best Regards, Adam __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brain Mason - the passing of another of the greats
Ah, and there's a perfect example of how auto-spellcheck can backfire quite remarkably. I'm sorry for that...Brian's memory deserves better. Jason On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I thought I should pass this forward. My father just informed me that Brian Mason's obituary appeared in today's copy of the LA times; he passed December 3rd of this year. He published countless publications and a number of well-received books over the past several decades and was a major contributor to the modern field of meteoritics. He'll most likely be best remembered for his book Meteorites published back in 1962, a work that's still often referenced today. An all too-short biography can be found here. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/meteorites/2/5 Best, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brain Mason - the passing of another of the greats
Hi All Here is a couple of somewhat better obituary's; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120804129.html http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/Site/about/our_structure/fellows/bmasonobituary.aspx Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I thought I should pass this forward. My father just informed me that Brian Mason's obituary appeared in today's copy of the LA times; he passed December 3rd of this year. He published countless publications and a number of well-received books over the past several decades and was a major contributor to the modern field of meteoritics. He'll most likely be best remembered for his book Meteorites published back in 1962, a work that's still often referenced today. An all too-short biography can be found here. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/meteorites/2/5 Best, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: HOLIDAYS AUCTIONS END THIS WEEK SUPER SALE UNDERWAY.... THE BIG ONE FOR THE YEAR!!
Michael Cottingham is having trouble posting and asked me to send this for him: Begin forwarded message: From: michael cottingham mikew...@gilanet.com Date: December 14, 2009 7:57:23 PM GMT-07:00 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: AD: HOLIDAY AUCTIONS END THIS WEEK Super Sale Underway The Big One For The Year! Hello All, THIS IS MY LARGEST EBAY AUCTION RUN AND HOLIDAY SALE! It is underway right now. There a thousands of dollars worth of meteorites up for 0.99 cent auctions and I am wheeling and dealing on all the rest! Go to this link for all auctions: SEE ALL AUCTIONS AT ONCE! http://shop.ebay.com:80/meteorite-collector/m.html?LH_Auction=1_trksid=p3911.c0.m301 SEE ALL ITEMS ON SALE IN MY STORE! http://stores.ebay.com/voyage-botanica-natural-history Happy Holiday's to all! Best Wishes Michael Cottingham __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brain Mason - the passing of another of the greats
Hey Check out the last sentence of the Washington Post article; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120804129.html In 2002, a writer for the online magazine Meteorite Times wrote about visiting Dr. Mason at the Smithsonian, reflecting on the juxtaposition of Dr. Mason being pushed out of the way by kids running through the exhibit. He took it in stride, but it brought home to me both why he would avoid the cattle herds of the public sector, but also that it took decades of painstaking laboratory work, much of it by Dr. Mason himself, to reduce the intensely complex story well-hidden within meteorites into a set of digestible displays of which much of the educated public can consume within a few minutes . . . and kids can run through for fun. It is by Martin Horejsi http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/May/Accretion_Desk.htm Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.co On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Here is a couple of somewhat better obituary's; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120804129.html http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/Site/about/our_structure/fellows/bmasonobituary.aspx Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I thought I should pass this forward. My father just informed me that Brian Mason's obituary appeared in today's copy of the LA times; he passed December 3rd of this year. He published countless publications and a number of well-received books over the past several decades and was a major contributor to the modern field of meteoritics. He'll most likely be best remembered for his book Meteorites published back in 1962, a work that's still often referenced today. An all too-short biography can be found here. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/meteorites/2/5 Best, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list m __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brian Mason - the passing of another of the greats
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:28:06 -0700 From: meteoritepl...@gmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Brain Mason - the passing of another of the greats Hey Check out the last sentence of the Washington Post article; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120804129.html In 2002, a writer for the online magazine Meteorite Times wrote about visiting Dr. Mason at the Smithsonian, reflecting on the juxtaposition of Dr. Mason being pushed out of the way by kids running through the exhibit. He took it in stride, but it brought home to me both why he would avoid the cattle herds of the public sector, but also that it took decades of painstaking laboratory work, much of it by Dr. Mason himself, to reduce the intensely complex story well-hidden within meteorites into a set of digestible displays of which much of the educated public can consume within a few minutes . . . and kids can run through for fun. It is by Martin Horejsi http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2002/May/Accretion_Desk.htm Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.co On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Mike Jensen meteoritepl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All Here is a couple of somewhat better obituary's; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/08/AR2009120804129.html http://www.royalsociety.org.nz/Site/about/our_structure/fellows/bmasonobituary.aspx Mike Mike Jensen Meteorites 16730 E Ada PL Aurora, CO 80017-3137 USA 720-949-6220 IMCA 4264 website: www.jensenmeteorites.com On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, I thought I should pass this forward. My father just informed me that Brian Mason's obituary appeared in today's copy of the LA times; he passed December 3rd of this year. He published countless publications and a number of well-received books over the past several decades and was a major contributor to the modern field of meteoritics. He'll most likely be best remembered for his book Meteorites published back in 1962, a work that's still often referenced today. An all too-short biography can be found here. http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/meteorites/2/5 Best, Jason __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list m __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - December 15, 2009
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Re: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater
A fence will not be a deterrent for deer, and they'll get to the salt blocks left for the cows. I thought it was interesting that it's along side the path. Good luck none the less! I would definitely follow up... Mark --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater To: Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com Cc: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 5:10 PM Dave, Thanks for the reply. This is a cow pasture and there are a lot of hoof prints in and around the hole (around the entire field really). I will ask him about the salt blocks. The pasture is fenced in, so if he did leave anything out, it wouldn't be for deer, but only cows. Thanks, Mike On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Dave Myers whitefalcons...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Mike and list, coming from a family of farmers in Ohio, (and deer hunters,) It looks from the photos that there are a lot of animal tracks around it, I would ask the farmer if salt blocks were placed there for years. The animals will dig a pit after many years! even a couple. If he says No, Get a back hole and dig! Dave --- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Its Not A Crater To: meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:37 PM Hi Guys, I was wondering around the fields of Lancaster PA near the high mass zone of the newly computed fall line and happened across a really weird hole. The hole is 5 feet wide, 6 feet long and about 16 inches deep. I posted pictures and information here: http://www.mikesastrophotos.com/baltimore-pa-meteor/its-not-a-crater/ I'm not saying this is a crater by any means and I understand that meteorites do not make craters 99.9% of the time, however I still think its really weird and I wanted to get some feedback as to what you guys think. Please read the post and look at the pictures and lmk your thoughts. Thanks, Mike __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News
Hi Anne all, People keep bringing up a great point. I've seen other shows crater because they were in cities with too many attractions (specifically Anaheim). People bring their families and a lot of the attendees spend a few days at Disney Land. So the shows suffer because of the many distractions. That being said, it's folly for Tucson to ignore the problems. The show could move to Marana or another nearby community which is more business friendly outside the state (Milwaukee lost GenCon to Indianapolis - a great venue with hardly any distractions, probably my favorite show city...). Moving next door to Marana or Oro Valley would not a problem for us, but it would be bad for the city. If a lot of the dealers pull out, I doubt the Tucson Gem Mineral Society would follow. So the show would go on in some fashion. If attendance drops, then hotel prices should follow. It's difficult to tell if the poor attendance last year was caused by the growing infrastructure problems, or the recession. I know jewelry dealers who were happy with last year. It's such a big show, I don't see a drastic change, but maybe a slow decline if things don't improve. But if the all of the dealers DID manage to move and the Society dissolved, I wouldn't follow. I'd start going to Denver, Munich or Ensisheim... I hope the City starts to do a better job! Hoping for a bigger, brighter ( drier) Tucson show!! Good luck to all the dealers! Mark B. Vail, AZ --- On Mon, 12/14/09, impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com wrote: From: impact...@aol.com impact...@aol.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 2010 Show Website and News To: raremeteori...@yahoo.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: geok...@notkin.net Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 1:25 PM Hello Adam and all, Do you know that the Las Vegas Gem Show used to be a full-fledged Rocks and Minerals Show years ago? I had many occasions to talk to some of the largest mineral dealers doing that Show, and I was told repeatedly that it was a very poor Show financially and attendance. Probably because the public was distracted by the other attractions of Vegas. Maybe it is why it was down-sized to a Gem only Show. And I do know a gem dealer who is considering dropping it because it is not worth his time. And if the Tucson Show moves to Vegas, I will probably stop doing it too. And Yes, I have been in Vegas many times, it is an amusing place from an architectural point of view, and shopping is pretty good, but that's about it. And I just checked _www.Hotels.com_ (http://www.Hotels.com) , there is still half a dozen hotels (Super 8, Comfort Inn,) with rooms for less than $100 a night for the weekend of Feb 4 to Feb. 8. The Big Weekend. Now about the Real Tucson Show. I have been very busy preparing it too, Only six weeks Time flies. I have way too much inventory, so for the first time ever I will have a Sales/Bargains corner with a very wide assortment of things, even a few thin-sections. Speaking of Thin-Sections, I will have ET's collection with me in addition to my own, so that's about 800 thin-sections. And I might receive another batch before the show. And I will have a couple surprises in Exclusivity. More about that very soon. And Alain Carion has a new book out just in time for Tucson, and since I had the pleasure to translate it, I will have the pleasure to present it in Tucson. And I am sure I am forgetting a lot of other things. More soon. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _impact...@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) Vice-President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 12/14/2009 11:22:50 AM Mountain Standard Time, raremeteori...@yahoo.com writes: Geoff wrote: And FYI: The Tucson gem show is NOT moving to Las Vegas or anywhere else : ) I am definitely going to the show this year since it may be of the last. I would hate to see it leave but do not see the Tucson City council doing anything to make it stay. NASCAR, the largest spectator sport in the world just moved its annual championship banquet to Las Vegas after spending 30 plus years in New York. They thought NASCAR would never change this venue and look what happened. Several large concerns have moved their shows to Las Vegas because they are making unbeatable deals and catering to clients needs more than ever before. __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
