Re: [meteorite-list] Question about Dr LaPaz hand written letter fromNorton meteorite fall
Hi Shawn, this could be the link http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/library_met_newspapers.html Cheers Werner Schroer - Original Message - From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question about Dr LaPaz hand written letter fromNorton meteorite fall Hello Listers, Awhile back ago I am not sure if this person is on the List or still with the List they had purchased a handwritten letter and original newspapers clippings from the Norton meteorite fall and had posted they images on their website. If you can, can you please provide me a link to the website please :) SA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The Temperature/smell of meteorites: Reports fromChinese annals
Robert, very interesting indeed, thanks for sharing your knowledge of the quoted publication dedicated to historical Chinese sources in regard to watched meteorite falls. Does the publication cover only the circumstances of the falls or can one find also information concerning cultural aspects? In any case I'd be interested in an English version (you suggest that a translatrion is planned, if I understand you right?). Best, Matthias - Original Message - From: Robert A. Juhl bartr...@mac.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] The Temperature/smell of meteorites: Reports fromChinese annals Hello List, I'm new on the Meteorite-List and saw the posts about the temperature of meteorites followed by posts about some meteorites with a sulfurous smell. Perhaps I can contribute to this discussion. Sorry to be late, but to date I haven't been able to tweak my gmail to succeed in posting to the list. Finally, I came across a obscure mailer that seems to work. So with fingers crossed, here goes. There are a number of reports of meteorites with smells of various kinds in ancient Chinese records. Following are a few reports dredged up from a quick trawl through China's standard list of official meteorite records. Before getting to the records, I want to point out that I know nothing about meteorites -- that's why I'm on the list -- to learn. But I do know something about ancient Chinese records. My source for these reports is the standard, comprehensive list of Chinese meteor falls (pgs 63-104 of Zhongguo gudai tianxiang jilu zongji = Complete collection of records of celestial phenomena in ancient China, published in Nanjing in 1988 under the auspices of the Chinese Academy of Sciences). The book covers reports from ancient times to 1910. In other words, they are reports of recognized meteorite falls. Translations are drafts. A report dated 30 Mar 1189 says: A meteorite fell in Baoying County in Chuzhou. It disintegrated into fires [perhaps with many sparks/fires on impact?] and had an extremely rancid odor. A report dated 28 Jun 1499 says: There was a sound like thunder...to the N of Shuozhou city. A white vapor stretched across the sky. A fireball split apart, dropping a stone as big as a small cartwheel. It entered the ground more than seven feet deep, followed by gravel-like stones up to 20-30 li distant (10-15 kilometers). The stone was bluish-black, had an odor like sulfur, and its substance was hard and smooth. (From two local histories of Shanxi) A report dated 16 Nov 1620 says: A thunderous sound and the earth shook. A black cloud surrounded a stone that fell at the mouth of a spring. The stone was colored like green mung beans and had a sulfurous odor. (From a local history of Hubei) A report about the same stone from a separate history says the stone smelled like gunpowder. A report dated 1622 says: A thunderous sound and a stone fell. Neither stone nor iron, its shape was wrinkled and it had a sulfurous odor. It weighed five yi (perhaps 100-200 ounces; this unit of weight is not well-defined). (From a local history of Hubei) A report dated 31 July 1815 says: Two streaks of white 'vapor' appeared between the fields, reaching into the sky. After a while, they dispersed and a meteor burst apart with a [loud] sound in the sky, which stopped after a short time. Meteorites then fell to earth, where they changed [meteorites were thought to consist of 'vapor' during flight, changing to iron, stone, or other materials after landing] into marble-sized pellets. Neither iron nor stone, they had a sulfurous smell. A report dated 15 May 1832 says: Three meteorites fell around 3 pmBefore the meteorite had fallen, there was a sound like thunder and a shaking [of the earth]. When the people looked up, they saw things colored deep black descending from the sky. They were as big as a hu measures. Whirling around, they entered the fields. The people quickly dug for them. After digging about 2.5 ft deep, they retrieved a stone colored like a sheep's liver and covered all over with protrusions. It weighed several jin (probably more than a kilogram) and smelled rancid. A report dated 4 May-2 Jun 1856 says: ...there was a sound like thunder from the sky and something as big as a cartwheel descended, colored like the yellow of a hen's egg. It smelled so rancid that people couldn't approach it. There are many more, but you get the idea. There are also some interesting clusters. For example, there is a cluster of four meteorites that smelled like sulfur in the 1717-1725 timeframe. There are also reports of warm/hot/frosty meteorites in Chinese sources. Here are a few excerpts. Date: 1720.1.10. After twilight a sound like a cannonade came from the east and then from the south. Flashing and flickering, an object fell from the sky. It was as big as a goose egg, metallic, very hot, and had a sulfurous odor. (From a local history
[meteorite-list] More info about my source
Hello Matthias, List, Here is some more information about Zhongguo gudai tianxiang jilu zongji (= Complete collection of records of celestial phenomena in ancient China). The book has 11 sections, including sunspots, auroras, meteor falls, eclipses, novas and supernovas, comets, meteor showers, meteor sightings, and so on. Many sections also have lists of uncertain objects. Running well over 1,000 pages, it includes all official and semi-official reports of celestial phenomena from ancient times to around 1910, as well as well-sourced anecdotal reports. To put together the sampling I posted, all I did was turn to the section on meteor falls, pick out reports that included a mention of temperature or odor, and translate them. By the way, although the book claims to be comprehensive, many celestial phenomena are not included, such as reports of vapors that were something other than auroras. Hope this helps. Regards Robert A. Juhl, Tokyo (ad...@mac.com) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List History Book?
Hi Richard, An unknown list member wrote a history of the list (of sorts), a while back. Here is a link - http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg82182.html Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 11/26/10, Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net wrote: Howdy List...let's see. I've been peripheral for only a couple years...and there's one book I don't have in my library (well a bunch, especially Monica Grady's, but I'm still searching...) Nope, the one I want to read is a history of this List, all the Peyton Place crap which as I am just now coming to understand subjugates so much of the heart and soul of you original participants' content. Just this suggestion alone may cause an avalanche of thought and a race to see who can write the first worthy List History Book. As a writer, (yes, really), I simply am late to the scene and don't have the personal strories under my belt. I bet there are are a bunch, as we are witnessing lately. (I will gladly participate. Perhaps, write it myself. Who want's to? Write me off-site with stories?) And here's another perspective for you all (the Walrus isn't Tom.) Having rapidly followed this familiar trend (ironschondritesachondrites, and landing on achondtrites as my own personal facination)...along the way I've also landed on the artistic nature of our pals from space, putting it to paper and canvas. Tom Phillips is such an amazing artist, unto his own...he has defined a new medium that transcends science. What Tom is doing is ground-breaking on so many levels. As a recent post askedWhat happened, did I miss something? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Video on Meteorite Identification in Field
Hi McCartney, You have produced a really great video! Thanks for sharing it with us. Best regards, Charley Butterfield Well, squids don't work. Hey! Let's try elephants ! Hannibal Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 10:29:31 -0700 From: McCartney Taylor mccart...@blackbearddata.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Video on Meteorite Identification in Field To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: 20101126102930.c88cc0946da16415a5f245dec68c1421.82c3d6365c@email05.secureserver.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I've created a stone meteorite identification video of good quality. With the success of Meteorite Men, the universities, labs, and some dealers including me are suddenly receiving a big influx of meteorwrong submissions. I wanted to create a video of instruction that any of us could redirect the submitters to. Hopefully, the video will convince 3/4 that they don't have a meteorite, and they don't get mad at us for dashing their $1,000,000 hope. Even if we can filter out 50% of the submitters, the community is way ahead in avoiding lost time. It is hosted on youtube, and they provide a very nice html snippet if you wish to embed this video in your webpage. Ideally the page the visitors read before they contact you about their worthless rocks. The link is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhlbntm3-tE -mt __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - MUSEUM PIECES FOR SALE / ebay auctions
Hello All, please have a look at my updated MUSEUM PIECES FOR SALE pages: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id26.html and http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id25.html In addition, I have 7 rare meteorites on ebay, ending in about one day: http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= - STANNERN, Czech Republic, fell 1808! - NWA 5731, stunning LL3.2, 5.3 g - NWA 4229, H7 Metachondrite - NWA 5239, very nice CV3 - NWA 6293 stunning new Diogenite, 4.16 - NWA 6292 new Brachinite, paired to NWA 5400, 1.446 g - NWA 5996 new Ureilite, 2.209 g http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= My Achondrites for Sale pages: Diogenite, Eucrite and a Howardite: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id54.html New Ureilite and Brachinite: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id41.html From Mars and our Moon: http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/id44.html Thank you, Peter Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 Bern, Switzerland http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets?
Patrick, I recomend this company http://www.forcefieldmagnets.com/catalog/ May the force be with you, Dan - Original Message - From: Patrick Wiggins p...@wirelessbeehive.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:37 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets? Anyone here have a favorite source for neodymium magnets? I just googled neodymium magnets and got 754,000 results so I'm hoping folks here can narrow that down a bit. Many thanks, patrick N Utah USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets?
I just use eBay and find the best deal for the size I am looking for. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wiggins Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 2:37 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets? Anyone here have a favorite source for neodymium magnets? I just googled neodymium magnets and got 754,000 results so I'm hoping folks here can narrow that down a bit. Many thanks, patrick N Utah USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] FW: Recommend source for neodymium magnets?
I found that KJ Magnetics has the best selection and price. They also ship quickly. I think most of the meteorite stick gang buys from them. WWW.kjmagnetics.com Dennis Miller Subject: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets? Anyone here have a favorite source for neodymium magnets? I just googled neodymium magnets and got 754,000 results so I'm hoping folks here can narrow that down a bit. Many thanks, patrick N Utah USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Ultra rare thin sections for sale including NWA 5400 pairings
Hi to all, hope everyone is doing well. I am listing a very nice amount of material on ebay today including several thin sections of many rare types such as angrite, CR2, Mesosiderites, CV3, Diogenites, and also the famous NWA 5400 pairing, NWA 6292. There is other nice meteorites available also. Feel free to make offers for off ebay sales. You can see my listings here: http://shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites/m.html Thanks for looking! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Luce' .59g, Barbotan, Tabor, Esnandes, L'Aigle .75g, Fisher, Weston, Siena, Tagish Lake, St Louis 106mg, Orgueil, Lost City and more :)))
Hello Listers, I have some great buys on eBay and also killer items Ill be selling outside of eBay so if you have any questions contact me. Also, contact me via email about these meteorites sales and name your price and see what we can work out with the list down below. Luce' fragment .59g L'Aigle .758g fragment Fisher part slice 1.54g St Louis 106mg eBay Auctions ESNANDES very rare historic meteorite fall- France 1837 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250730527864ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT SYLACAUGA meteorite, Mrs. Hodges Meteorite Strike! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260696505812ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT SIENA meteorite 1794 historic fall from Italy VERY RARE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260697498203ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT ORGUEIL meteorite 9mg, very rare historic fall-1864! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250724393508ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT NEW CONCORD meteorite 1860-Horse killer-ASU collection! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260696937610ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT ST. LOUIS meteorite *vary rare* hit a moving car-1950. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250730557308ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT L'AIGLE 29mg Historic meteorite from France, 1803 rare! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260696511340ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT TAGISH LAKE meteorite 110mg LOT ALL with fusion crust! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250731510799ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT TAGISH LAKE meteorite 30mg-most amount of nanodiamonds http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260697499834ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT MELROSE(a) meteorite- owned and examined by Nininger. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250730931576ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT LOST CITY meteorite 1st fireball photo path in USA RARE http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250730926342ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT ALMAHATA SITTA meteorite 2008TC3 seen from space rare! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=250730929450ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Also this week ill be placing a Tabor auction on eBay so keep an eye out for that. Thank you Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Brix's meteorite hunting training video Part 2
Hi List, I just finished Part 2 of Brix's meteorite training video. I can't wait for the next fall. Here is the link below. Thanks, Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eqlNIXKzk0 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cometary meteorites
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 2:48 PM, lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu wrote: Hi: I have said this to you before that there is about zero evidence that carbonaceous chondrites are from comets. There is only minimal evidence that there are hydrated silicates in comets and at least the CI and CM CCs very much aqueously altered and are consistent with an origin from C, B, and G (and maybe D) asteroids. Larry Hello Elizabeth, all - The general informal consensus within the meteorite community has been that carbonaceous meteorites are cometary in origin. That being the case, a few questions: 1) At what compression/temperature will CO2 dissociate into Carbon and Oxygen? 2) Will Epoxi provide fine spectra data for trace elements such as calcium and aluminum? Platinum Group Elements? E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list CcAl Si 's Don't expect much out of these museum curators... Feldspars are thought to be QUARTZ. no education.or should i say ...oh well... go figure... GDX sh __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brix's meteorite hunting training video Part 2
Dogs are amazing. I had a Rottweiler that took to rocks naturally. A long time ago, I received a package of Saharan meteorites from the Labennes, laid one out on a table and my dog made off with it and buried in the back yard. I gave him another one, he took it and tried to bury it as well. This is how we found where he buried the first one. I could pick up any rock, observe its unique characteristics and throw it into the river. My dog would then go after it and not return until he had found the exact same rock I had thrown among thousands of others. I do not know how he was able to do this since it seems unlikely that a dog could smell anything submerged in water. It was like magic watching him retrieve these rocks. I have no explanation for this. A trained dog seems like a natural tool to use in meteorite hunting. I am curious to how this works out. Who knows? Maybe Brix will be the first dog in history to make a cold find. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorwrong / Tom come back
G'Day List and All that are interested With the recent talk on Tom Phillips and that I talk to him almost on a daily basis, I thought I would share some information. Tom has added some improvements to his scopes and has been for the last 4 months imaging lots of material. Here is a list of what he has been doing and those that have offered material. I think and I know Tom would approve acknowledgement to those involved. You will find these new images on their sites Carl Esparza Meteoritemax NWA 5363 Brachinite (Thin section Xpol) Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com NWA 6291 Angrite Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ NWA 6386 Diogenite NWA 6394 Rumuruti R3.9 NWA 6390 L3 NWA 6393 Howardite Arlene Schlazer and Sonny Clary http://www.nevadameteorites.com Moapa Valley CM1 Some of the images I have been privy are amazing. One in particular a barred chondrule in NWA 6390. I think Tom has taken the wow factor to a new level. So even though he is not on the list anymore his passion is alive and reaching new levels. Thank for your time Have a great weekend and hoping that the season brings you much joy Cheers John IMCA # 2125 .a.k.a. Johnno __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Auctions ending shortly
Hi List If you want some bargains make me a an offer on items in my store: http://stores.ebay.com/Mile-High-Meteorites Highlights include a 195 gram complete Allende, super Fresh 52g Holbrook, CK4, eucrites, little Besours and Chergachs + others. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Brix's meteorite hunting training video Part 2
Hi Adam and list, You know your right Dogs are amazing. My cousin on his farm in ohio has a Golden Retriver with a heck of a nose. While hunting the past 2 weeks there I would play fetch with a stick, even when he lost sight of the direction, He would put his nose to the ground and circle the area until he found it. This dog diggs up around 6-8 moles a year that are 6 -10 in deep in the ground. So I was thinking last week, could I train this dog to find meteorites? I think I will Take out 2 unwa next trip, wash them, put on gloves and play fetch. Then heat one rock up in the oven, (that will give off a very strong rock smell) then bury the rock about 10 in. deep, in the ground, walk him around and see if he finds it. If that works in a day of testing, Then I will try cold rocks! It will be fun. dave - Original Message From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 6:31:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Brix's meteorite hunting training video Part 2 Dogs are amazing. I had a Rottweiler that took to rocks naturally. A long time ago, I received a package of Saharan meteorites from the Labennes, laid one out on a table and my dog made off with it and buried in the back yard. I gave him another one, he took it and tried to bury it as well. This is how we found where he buried the first one. I could pick up any rock, observe its unique characteristics and throw it into the river. My dog would then go after it and not return until he had found the exact same rock I had thrown among thousands of others. I do not know how he was able to do this since it seems unlikely that a dog could smell anything submerged in water. It was like magic watching him retrieve these rocks. I have no explanation for this. A trained dog seems like a natural tool to use in meteorite hunting. I am curious to how this works out. Who knows? Maybe Brix will be the first dog in history to make a cold find. Happy Hunting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: November 22-26, 2010
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES November 22-26, 2010 o Zephyria Planum (22 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101122a o Ganges Chasma (23 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101123a o Melas Chasma Landslides (24 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101124a o Gullies (25 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101125a o Nili Patera Dunes (26 November 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20101126a All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
Hi Ruben/List. Fairly nice Campo there, but it sure isn't a Canyon Diablo! g New seller here and he may not know the difference. It may be that the corporate office he says it's been displayed in for a couple of years now got swindled when they bought it as such. I wonder if he'll cite the provenance when he responds to my inquiry? Linton Your meteorite sure looks like a Campo del Cielo. What makes you think it's a Canyon Diablo? I'm very familiar with both irons. Large Campos are NOT unusual at all. Please explain. - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay auctions ending
Dear List, I have 28 ebay auctions ending on Sunday starting at 12:02 PST. Many historical as well as rare specimens. See them all here: http://stores.ebay.com/mos-meteorites Let me know if you have any questions. Good Luck if you are bidding and thank you for looking! Kind Regards, Moritz Karl Germany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
I am going to ask a dumb question, how do you know it is a campo?? -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:54 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
Besides the fact that CDs that large are MUCH more rare. The LARGE regmaglypts is the big tell. Canyon Diablos don't typically have large smoother thumbprints like Campos do which is caused by ablation. CDs are more shrapnel like, with sharp edges, ridges, and points. Typical of an impact iron. Campo del Ceilo meteorites are different in that MOST pieces are highly thumbprinted/ablated, evidencing their high altitude breakup and ablation which smoothes the outer surface. Not an from explosive impact/explosive event which rips the iron to pieces like the Canyon Diablos. Eric On 11/27/2010 7:42 PM, Stuart McDaniel wrote: I am going to ask a dumb question, how do you know it is a campo?? -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:54 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Recommend source for neodymium magnets?
Thanks for the many suggestions (and there really were many). I think I've worked through them all and price-wise the best for what I'm looking for is http://www.magnet4less.com . Carpe Noctem! patrick On 27 Nov 2010, at 00:37, Patrick Wiggins wrote: Anyone here have a favorite source for neodymium magnets? I just googled neodymium magnets and got 754,000 results so I'm hoping folks here can narrow that down a bit. Many thanks, patrick N Utah USA __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Thin section versa reflected light microscopepictures
G'Day Uwe What a fantastic display. Thank you for sharing, much appreciated. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of m42protosun Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2010 12:22 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Thin section versa reflected light microscopepictures Hello list, depending of microscope exposures most people think about thin section. They show nice colors and sometimes special structures well used for petrogaphic studies. But there is an other possibility to study the micro structure of minerals, - the use of a reflecting light microscope with polarising and color selecting filters. This images are ever very colorful too and this colors are mostly real. Reflecting microscope studies allow you to detect on a certain slice thousands of regions, - day for day new structures and if you have seen enough you must turn your probe only an a certain angle and the microworld you see is every time a new one. Welcome to the amazing microscopic meteorite world of Uwe Figge Look at http://www.flickr.com/photos/inside_of_meteorites/sets/72157625356287024 / Ohne Brief, aber mit Siegel. Mit Telekom De-Mail vertraulich und rechtsverbindlich online kommunizieren. Jetzt voranmelden! www.telekom.de/de-mail __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
Besides the fact that CDs that large are MUCH more rare. Saying that something is rare doesn't mean it won't turn up on ebay. Our 36 kilogram Canyon Diablo was listed as a Campo a number of years ago by someone brokering an old collection. http://picasaweb.google.com/MeteoriteKid/Irons#5417262621708828690 Those two large holes still have remnants of the large graphite inclusions that weathered out to form them. Typical of Canyon Diablo. John and Dawn Birdsell purchased another Campo from the same seller that turned out to be Canyon Diablo - they cut it up and sold it as such. The LARGE regmaglypts is the big tell. Canyon Diablos don't typically have large smoother thumbprints like Campos do which is caused by ablation. Canyon Diablos usually have larger regmaglypts than Campos. I know what you're trying to say -- that the Campos tend to have smoother contours -- but as Buchwald would tell you in volume one of his set, Canyon Diablos have undergone a greater degree of weathering, resulting in the formation of sharp ridges where smoother, ablative ridges have weathered away, and regmaglypts have been deepened and widened (see picture above). CDs are more shrapnel like, with sharp edges, ridges, and points. Typical of an impact iron. Most Canyon Diablos were affected little, if at all by the impact. If you can find a picture of the etched surface of a Canyon Diablo that shows actual physical deformation (compare to Henbury here: http://www.pallasite.ca/meteorites/meteoriteDetails.cfm?function=largemeteoriteNo=302specimenNo=331 ), I'll pay you good money for it. I've been collecting meteorites for over ten years, and the closest I've seen is heat-distortion - not mechanical bending or stretching as one would see in a simple explosive impact like Sikhote-Alin, Gebel-Kamil, etc. The reason for this is that the Canyon Diablo impact didn't produce much, if any, actual shrapnel. The energy released was enough to vaporize the primary impactor, and the pieces recovered all (yes, likely *all*) spalled off prior to impact. Nininger related the finding of metallic/oxide slugs with incorporated limestone inclusions that he found on the rim of the crater - these are likely the closest things that Canyon Diablo produced to shrapnel. So, to condense - Canyon Diablo probably didn't produce shrapnel. Sharp edges as seen on Canyon Diablos are typical of weathering. Hence most Canyon Diablos, while they have sharp edges, aren't shaped like shrapnel (compare to Chinga, Sikhote-Alin, Henbury). Here's a photo of a shocked Canyon Diablo. I see minor recrystallization due to heat-alteration, leading to a washed-out pattern. I see no mechanical alteration due to shear/crater-forming type effects. http://cgi.ebay.com/Canyon-Diablo-Iron-Meteorite-261g-Shocked-end-cut-rm60-/320606489124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa5a2ca24#ht_500wt_1156 And most Canyon Diablos show no shock effects whatsoever: http://cgi.ebay.com/Canyon-Diablo-Meteorite-etched-Full-slice-320-9-grams-/230552115823?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item35adfa1a6f#ht_500wt_922 Well, aside from Neumann bands, but those are present due to extraterrestrial shock, and are present in almost all iron meteorites. Campo del Ceilo meteorites are different in that MOST pieces are highly thumbprinted/ablated, evidencing their high altitude breakup and ablation which smoothes the outer surface. Yep. Not an from explosive impact/explosive event which rips the iron to pieces like the Canyon Diablos. Nope. Again, it's due to weathering. Which is why, when you cut into Canyon Diablos, you see no traces of mechanical shock. You can't turn the outside of an iron into shrapnel without doing it to the inside as well. The trouble is that I've *never* seen a Canyon Diablo that, when cut, looked as though it was a piece of shrapnel. Never, ever. I've seen thousands of slices, ends, etc. Yikes. Beat that horse to a pulp. Regards, Jason On 11/27/2010 7:42 PM, Stuart McDaniel wrote: I am going to ask a dumb question, how do you know it is a campo?? -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:54 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Spanish Lady legally owns the sun
I am sure some of you will enjoy this silly story: http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/8400845/spanish-woman-claims-ownership-of-the-sun/ When I was in the Philippines a couple of weeks ago I got a sunburn. I wonder if I can sue her. Enjoy DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT - Spanish Lady legally owns the sun
Thanks Dean. What a laugh. I am not stupid, I know the law. she now wants to slap a fee on everyone who uses the Sun Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? You might be able to sue her, but you'll have to pay her solar fees first. g Linton - Original Message - From: dean bessey deanbes...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Spanish Lady legally owns the sun I am sure some of you will enjoy this silly story: http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/world/8400845/spanish-woman-claims-ownership-of-the-sun/ When I was in the Philippines a couple of weeks ago I got a sunburn. I wonder if I can sue her. Enjoy DEAN __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales!
His reply, since he didn't post the QA on his ad: Hi and thank you for you question..I am selling this for the owner, who is not computer friendly :-) He asssures me that it is a Diablo vs a Cielo; and has noted the thumbprints. As this is someone I have confidence in, I am comfortable putting my E-bay rating on the line to represent it as he has stated to me. Follow-up in progress... Linton - Original Message - From: Linton Rohr linton...@earthlink.net To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 5:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! Hi Ruben/List. Fairly nice Campo there, but it sure isn't a Canyon Diablo! g New seller here and he may not know the difference. It may be that the corporate office he says it's been displayed in for a couple of years now got swindled when they bought it as such. I wonder if he'll cite the provenance when he responds to my inquiry? Linton Your meteorite sure looks like a Campo del Cielo. What makes you think it's a Canyon Diablo? I'm very familiar with both irons. Large Campos are NOT unusual at all. Please explain. - Original Message - From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 4:54 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Double your meteorite sales! It's easy! Just sell your Campos as Canyon Diablos. Like this guy! http://cgi.ebay.com/Whopper-20-2-Pound-Canyon-Diablo-Meteroite-9162-grams-/220700202995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3362c1d7f3#ht_500wt_1144 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
