[meteorite-list] AD: 20 nice Thin Sections ends on ebay in arround 30 hours
Dear List Members and Friends of nice Thin Sections, in arround 30 hours ends 20 new beautiful and High Quality Thin Sections on ebay. All auctions start by only $1.99 NWA 6211 a nice low shocked and chondrule rich H5 (S1/W4) http://www.ebay.com/itm/370610542871?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 4723 - nice L3 Chondrite http://www.ebay.com/itm/370610548210?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6368 - Carbonaceous Chondrite CV3 http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786406101?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6042 - a fresh nice LL6 Breccia http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786412586?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6039 - nice L3 Chondrite - Interesting Chondrules !! Last one !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786415863?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6619 - Carbonaceous Chondrite CV3 (S1/W2) http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786407636?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6263 - Carbonaceous Chondrite CV3 (S2/W2) - Last one !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/370610544047?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 1685 - nice and fresh LL5 / LL6 Breccia http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786410594?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 4022 - nice L3 (S3-4/W2) - rare offered type 3 Chondrite http://www.ebay.com/itm/370610546240?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 NWA 6618 (Achondrite Eucrite) + NWA 6207 (CV3) togehter - NOT perfect quality !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/230786424770?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 And if anyone is interested..no meteorites but very nice Thin Sections of Volcanic Rocks: Limburgite - rare volcanic rock from Germany http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609950781?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Monzonite - Denmark Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609942002?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Amphibolite - Germany Find - Very Very Nice !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609940663?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Brown Baltic Quartz Porphyry - Germany Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/230785428066?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Särna Tinguaite - rare volcanic rock - Denmark Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/230785410762?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Pyroxene / Augite - prepared from a large Augite single crystal http://www.ebay.com/itm/230785412790?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Olivine Basalt - very nice !! Germany Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/230785419446?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Ultrabasite - very colorful - Germany Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/230785431494?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Dalarna Porphyry - Germany Find http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609956972?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Peridotite Xenolith in Olivine Basalt - Germany Find - NOT perfect quality !! http://www.ebay.com/itm/370609955848?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649 Many thanks and best regards, Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: New AZ Find Contributed by: Larry Atkins http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Gem, Mineral, Jewelry, and Fossil Show - Marietta, Georgia (Atlanta area) May 11th-13th
Hey, List Members! This is just a quick note to remind you about The 44nd Annual Gem, Mineral, Jewelry, and Fossil Show this weekend (Friday,Saturday and Sunday) in Marietta, GA! The show is just north of Atlanta, just off I-75! The members of the Georgia Mineral Society have done a lot of hard work preparing for another great show. Complete information can be found at the club's website: http://www.gamineral.org/may-show.htm Over 30 fine dealers from across the country will be there for you viewing (and purchasing!) pleasure! Admission and parking are FREE! There will be Door Prizes for adults and Special Door Prize for Students! The show will be held at the Cobb County Civic Center, 548 So. Marietta Parkway Fairground Street, Marietta, GA 30339. A map and directions can be found at the above link, at the bottom of the page Show hours are: Firday and Saturday, May 11th and 12th, 10-6, and Sunday, May 13th, Noon-5. Please stop by our booth and say, Hi! We are hard to miss! We're on the upper level and are the folks with the ORANGE table covers! We will have some new things from the Tucson shows (minerals, fossils and meteorites!) that will be displayed for sale for the first time at this show. Hey, you just might find something that you cannot live without! My billfold sure hopes so! My credit card company does likewise! But, in any case, stop by and say, Hi! Please ID yourself from the list! It is always neat to put faces with names. We hope to see you in Marietta this weekend! I'm sure you will have a great time! John Teague Volunteer Gems Melbourne, FL (formerly: Knoxville, Tennessee!) http://www.VolunteerGems.com http://www.mineral-auctions.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
Steve, the brightness alone causes me to doubt this was an asteroid. It's more likely to have been a satellite, although that isn't for certain either. How long was it in view? George __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The bet - Sutter Mill
the radar returns the little stuff that falls like rain. The main mass is 6 or more miles away in the french curve of the fall Cheers Steve --- On Tue, 5/8/12, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: From: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Subject: [meteorite-list] The bet - Sutter Mill To: Meteorite-List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Tuesday, May 8, 2012, 1:35 PM The other day at breakfast with Dr. Peter Jenniskens, I bet him a $1 that this meteor went Puff during the explosion (three break ups???), blowing and burning it to less than dust where no big stones (Kilo sized) are going to be found. Nothing I can see in the strewn (on the ground) really even indicates a sizeable strewn field. While I hope I am wrong and I loose that bet, I think these stones are going to be really rare in collections and not everyone is going to get a chance of having these in not only institutional collections for research , but private collections as well. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
My first thought was an iridium flare. Cheers, Pete Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:37 -0600 From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
irridium flare? u got to be Fing kidding! It moved from the north star to out of site the same as every naked eye neo posted on heavens above. --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu, meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 4:02 PM My first thought was an iridium flare. Cheers, Pete Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:37 -0600 From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris I agree: this cannot have been a NEO. General west to east movement and fading description fits a satellite. It can't have been the ISS by the way, given the time. But there are quite a number of other satellites than can flare to well into the negative magnitudes. - Marco - Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl http://www.dmsweb.org http://www.marcolangbroek.nl - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
Agreed that the brightness is consistent with a flare, but the rest of the report probably is not. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 11:02 AM, Marco Langbroek wrote: I agree: this cannot have been a NEO. General west to east movement and fading description fits a satellite. It can't have been the ISS by the way, given the time. But there are quite a number of other satellites than can flare to well into the negative magnitudes. - Marco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] This is a good video about Sutter's Mill and Murchison
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2012/05/08/field-museums-new-meteorite Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 http://www.catchafallingstar.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: New Unequilibrated Eucrite NWA 7253
Hi List! Here is a new Eucrite that was bought at Tucson and classified recently, with a low TKW of 404 grams. It is described as unequilibrated eucrite with pyroxene compositions similar to Pasamonte in the meteoritical bulletin under NWA 7253: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=55341 I have two pieces up on ebay: An internal piece with no fusion crust, of 10.7 grams: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120909523114 A piece with nice fusion crust with flow lines, of 3.63 grams: http://www.ebay.com/itm/380436624325 Take care, Yinan __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Micros For Sale
Hi all, I have a few (4) Sutter Mill Fragments with fusion crust for sale. As you might guess (because these are carbonaceous meteorite fragments) all specimens look a little larger than the weight would indicate. Also, all weights are VERY accurate! 1. .5805 grams = $870.00 plus shipping 2. .2732 grams = $450.00 plus shipping 3. .1052 grams = $200.00 plus shipping 4. .0488 grams = $100.00 plus shipping Can be seen here. http://s1088.photobucket.com/albums/i334/mrmeteorite/ email or call with questions 602 481 9780 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re : Stolen meteorites return home
Hello, Congratulation Gary. I'm happy for you. Hope we had the same luck with our lost/stolen meteorites By the way here is a link to that stolen planetary meteorites (NWA 5960 Martian 124g and Lunar 118g), hope that some one in the meteorite list can help us even if we, also, accept our loss. http://sahara-nayzak.com/stolen/planetary.html Thank you all for your help Mohammed HMANI I.M.C.A #0153 www.sahara-nayzak.com stores.ebay.com/SAHARA-NAYZAK-METEORITES De : Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com À : MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Envoyé le : Mardi 8 mai 2012 21h47 Objet : [meteorite-list] Stolen meteorites return home Aloha, I have good news to share with the meteorite community. My stolen meteorites have been found and have made their way home. Two months ago i discovered them missing from my office at the Institute for Astronomy, and reported the crime to the local police and FBI. Both were helpful, but they did not appear to be making any progress in the case, and I accepted my loss and turned away from it. Last week, I discovered them through Jason Snyder who innocently purchased them from a seller he did not know. I contacted Jason, who was straightforward with me about how he acquired them. He has honorably sent them back home where they can continue to do the good work of outreach, inspiring young people to empower themselves through education here in Hawaii. Jason Snyder is my hero today, and together with all the people who have helped me and everyone here on the list who have kept an eye open for my meteorites, I want to express my heartfelt and sincere thanks! Mahalo nui loa! http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/_MetHomecoming.jpg Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Fraud - steelhorse1994, bfr475 and adrian332010
Hello All, As expected, the fake (NWA 4925) and potentially fake (NWA 4881 and NWA 4734) material is being sold by other sellers now. Seller bfr475 in Blue Mound, IL USA: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Rocks-Fossils-Minerals-/3213/i.html?item=251057332565pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a742ee155_ssn=bfr475 adrian332010 in Ontario, Canada: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Rocks-Fossils-Minerals-/3213/i.html?item=260963123019pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3cc29d3f4b_ssn=adrian332010 See updated webpage with examples of the front and reverse sides of the boxes here: http://www.impactika.com/steelhorse1994.pdf Again, if anyone has purchased pieces of NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 in these boxes marked with American Meteorite Collector's Society Authenticity Guaranteed on the reverse side, please let me know. One of our very kind and generous scientists has offered to do the analysis on these other two for us and I'd rather not have to purchase them from these sellers. Please feel free to contact me with questions. Thank you, Maria Haas Treasurer I.M.C.A., Inc. www.IMCA.cc Member #5520 From: dragons...@msn.com To: dragons...@msn.com Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 18:14:48 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay Fraud - steelhorse1994 Dear Fellow Members of the Meteorite Community, I have bad news about some material introduced to the market through an eBay seller named steelhorse1994. An enthusiastic IMCA applicant named Daniel Noyes bought some supposed NWA 4925 from eBay seller steelhorse1994. The material is packaged a lot like Chladni's Mars and Moon boxes (except they are square instead of rectangular) and I am sure that is by design. The red flag for the applicant was the reverse side of the box where it said, American Meteorite Collector's Society Authenticity Guaranteed. Of course, there is no such association. Steelhorse1994 is also selling what he is calling NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 in the same packaging. The reverse side of the box is not being shown in the auctions so you'll have to study the picture to identify these boxes. A webpage is being prepared to show all three boxes from the front and an example of the reverse side. For now, this page has a picture of the front and back of the NWA 4925 box. When the other page is ready, I'll post that as well. You can see what the boxes look like here: http://www.impactika.com/steelhorse1994.jpg Now the really bad news... Daniel sent the material to Dr. Randy Koretov for examination and his preliminary analysis reads as follows: Dear Mr. Noyes: I have preliminary compositional data for your alleged martian. I can say on the basis of that data the rock is definitely NOT any kind of meteorite. It's a terrestrial rock. I'll send you the final data in about 3 weeks. Randy Korotev I had been in contact with steelhorse1994 before I knew about the analysis. His name is Max and he told me he purchased the material in a bulk lot a few months ago and cannot remember who he purchased it from. I don't know if he is the perpetrator or not. I have emailed with him a few times and he seemed honest but the fact remains he is still selling FAKE material. No analysis of NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 have been done but their authenticity is also guaranteed by the American Meteorite Collectors Society and may also be FAKE. Please beware. I count 193 of these boxes having been sold just since the middle of February. Several of us have already contacted eBay to have the remaining auctions pulled. I have followed every lead I could find to trace these boxes back to whomever put them together and I got nowhere. If you know anything about where they came from, I would welcome the information. I would like to be clear that these boxes, sold by DANOVANNI, at http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTICATED-MOON-MARS-METEORITES-2-Premium-Rock-Art-Displays-w-Easels-/130690281958 ARE authentic and are NOT part of the fraud. If any of you have already purchased any of this bogus and potentially bogus material, the IMCA would like one of the NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 boxes from this seller for analysis. Please contact me about that and any questions or concerns. Please keep an eye out for this fake material and lets put our heads together to get them out of the meteorite market. A big thank you to Daniel Noyes! Best wishes, Maria Haas Treasurer I.M.C.A., Inc. www.IMCA.cc Member #5520 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - May 9, 2012
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES May 9, 2012 o Naar Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_025691_2030 This impressive crater, that stretches well across the width of the HiRISE camera's footprint, is notable for its sharp rim and steep walls. o A Youthful Crater and Its Ejecta http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_026099_2320 Given the latitude and proximity to gullies on mesas and massifs in this region, there could also be mid-latitude-type gullies in this crater. o Sculpting Dunes in Ganges Chasma http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_026100_1725 When dunes are located in a complex topographical area such a canyon, they become ideal candidates for detecting changes to their shapes and sizes over time. o Frosted Ground in the Southern Hemisphere in Late Fall http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_026388_1280 Mars is very different from Earth in that its main atmospheric component can condense onto the surface. All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay Fraud - steelhorse1994, bfr475 and adrian332010
Hi Maria and List, I'm not surprised by this, but it is very unfortunate for everyone involved. Things like this hurt the entire meteorite community. As time has gone on, eBay has become more risky for meteorites. Most subscribers to this List frequent the same circle trusted dealers, but there are still people willing to take risks with an unknown seller. Has it been determined whether or not the bogus Moon and Mars rocks were intentionally sold as a scam, or is the seller unaware and just passing along material he/she thinks is genuine Best regards, MikeG -- --- Galactic Stone Ironworks - MikeG Web: http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter: http://twitter.com/GalacticStone RSS: http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 --- On 5/9/12, Maria Haas dragons...@msn.com wrote: Hello All, As expected, the fake (NWA 4925) and potentially fake (NWA 4881 and NWA 4734) material is being sold by other sellers now. Seller bfr475 in Blue Mound, IL USA: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Rocks-Fossils-Minerals-/3213/i.html?item=251057332565pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3a742ee155_ssn=bfr475 adrian332010 in Ontario, Canada: http://www.ebay.com/sch/Rocks-Fossils-Minerals-/3213/i.html?item=260963123019pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2hash=item3cc29d3f4b_ssn=adrian332010 See updated webpage with examples of the front and reverse sides of the boxes here: http://www.impactika.com/steelhorse1994.pdf Again, if anyone has purchased pieces of NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 in these boxes marked with American Meteorite Collector's Society Authenticity Guaranteed on the reverse side, please let me know. One of our very kind and generous scientists has offered to do the analysis on these other two for us and I'd rather not have to purchase them from these sellers. Please feel free to contact me with questions. Thank you, Maria Haas Treasurer I.M.C.A., Inc. www.IMCA.cc Member #5520 From: dragons...@msn.com To: dragons...@msn.com Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 18:14:48 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] Ebay Fraud - steelhorse1994 Dear Fellow Members of the Meteorite Community, I have bad news about some material introduced to the market through an eBay seller named steelhorse1994. An enthusiastic IMCA applicant named Daniel Noyes bought some supposed NWA 4925 from eBay seller steelhorse1994. The material is packaged a lot like Chladni's Mars and Moon boxes (except they are square instead of rectangular) and I am sure that is by design. The red flag for the applicant was the reverse side of the box where it said, American Meteorite Collector's Society Authenticity Guaranteed. Of course, there is no such association. Steelhorse1994 is also selling what he is calling NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 in the same packaging. The reverse side of the box is not being shown in the auctions so you'll have to study the picture to identify these boxes. A webpage is being prepared to show all three boxes from the front and an example of the reverse side. For now, this page has a picture of the front and back of the NWA 4925 box. When the other page is ready, I'll post that as well. You can see what the boxes look like here: http://www.impactika.com/steelhorse1994.jpg Now the really bad news... Daniel sent the material to Dr. Randy Koretov for examination and his preliminary analysis reads as follows: Dear Mr. Noyes: I have preliminary compositional data for your alleged martian. I can say on the basis of that data the rock is definitely NOT any kind of meteorite. It's a terrestrial rock. I'll send you the final data in about 3 weeks. Randy Korotev I had been in contact with steelhorse1994 before I knew about the analysis. His name is Max and he told me he purchased the material in a bulk lot a few months ago and cannot remember who he purchased it from. I don't know if he is the perpetrator or not. I have emailed with him a few times and he seemed honest but the fact remains he is still selling FAKE material. No analysis of NWA 4881 and NWA 4734 have been done but their authenticity is also guaranteed by the American Meteorite Collectors Society and may also be FAKE. Please beware. I count 193 of these boxes having been sold just since the middle of February. Several of us have already contacted eBay to have the remaining auctions pulled. I have followed every lead I could find to trace these boxes back to whomever put them together and I got nowhere. If you know anything about where they came from, I would welcome the information. I would like to be clear that these boxes, sold by DANOVANNI, at http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTHENTICATED-MOON-MARS-METEORITES-2-Premium-Rock-Art-Displays-w-Easels-/130690281958 ARE authentic and are NOT part of the fraud. If any of you have already purchased any of this bogus and potentially bogus
[meteorite-list] New Horizons: Extending Our Horizons
http://pluto.jhuapl.edu/overview/piPerspective.php The PI's Perspective Extending Our Horizons Alan Stern May 9, 2012 New Horizons remains healthy and on course, now more than 23 times as far from the Sun as the Earth is. We will be 32.9 times as far from the Sun as the Earth is when we reach Pluto in three years, in the summer of 2015, so we're now about 70 percent of the way there. On April 30, New Horizons exited its most recent hibernation period, which lasted from late January through all of February, March and April. The spacecraft and our mission operations team are now beginning an intensive, two-month long series of activities that are the centerpiece of our 2012 mission operations. Those activities include thorough checkouts of every prime and backup system on the spacecraft, checkouts of all seven scientific instruments, calibrations of the entire scientific payload, two major flight-software updates and a rehearsal of the most intensive day of the Pluto encounter. The first software update involves about 20 bug fixes and enhancements for our fault protection and autonomy system; the second is an enhancement to our LORRI (Long Range Reconnaissance Imager) instrument, giving it the ability to detect in real time which images have close-up planets and moons in them as we make flybys. In addition to these activities, the spacecraft will also be tracked extensively to refine our knowledge of its trajectory and determine if a course correction is needed next year. Also, a series of computer table and flight plan updates will be loaded into our main (and backup) command and data handling computer to take the spacecraft through its next hibernation, which will last from early July into early January 2013. As some of you might already know, it will take about a year to get all of the Pluto encounter data back to Earth after we complete the main flyby science in early August of 2015. That's in part because we're taking a lot of data, and in part because we're very far from Earth at Pluto, so the data transmission rates are necessarily low. Following that long series of data downlinks, we'll perform a post-encounter instrument payload calibration that will help get the most out of the flyby data, and we'll send that data home. At that point, our main mission - the exploration of the Pluto system - will, at long last, be complete. Beyond Pluto? However, in 2013 or 2014, we plan to propose to NASA that we carry out further explorations after Pluto. If NASA approves that effort (as recommended in the planetary decadal survey of the National Research Council), New Horizons will explore one or two ancient Kuiper Belt Objects (KBOs). We are currently in the midst of an extensive search to find suitable KBOs that are within reach of our expected post-Pluto fuel supply. Based on that predicted fuel supply (about 34 kilograms, or just over 40 percent of what we launched with), we estimate that will likely be able to choose between several reachable KBOs if our searches are successful. This is a tough search, for two reasons. First, the only KBOs within our reach are likely to be small, roughly 50 kilometers in diameter. Because they are small and far away, they will be faint as seen from Earth. In fact, calculations show that the KBOs we need to find are going to be about 25,000 times fainter than Pluto, which is itself about 10,000 times fainter than the eye can see. This means we have to search for objects with the largest telescopes and most sensitive astronomical cameras on Earth. The second factor making the search tough is that our trajectory is pointed at the heart of the Milky Way's densest star fields - those of the galactic center in the constellation Sagittarius. So our search is kind of a needle in a haystack hunt for very faint objects slowly moving against regions of the sky thick with stars! We began our KBO search last year and have been using telescopes like the giant Keck, Gemini, Subaru (Japanese) and Magellan observatories. So far those searches have discovered about two-dozen faint KBOs in those dense star fields. Unfortunately, none of the KBOs found so far are close enough to be within reach of our fuel supply. However, computer model predictions indicate that with one or two more years of such a search, we should be able to find at least one, and more likely several reachable KBOs. After we find them, we'll study those flyby candidates to compare them against one another for their brightness (a crude measure of their size), colors, rotation periods and orbits, and to see if any have obvious moons. Then, in 2015 - assuming NASA approves our extended mission as we hope - we'll select our actual flyby target (or two targets, if we get lucky!). Once we choose the first target, we'll plan the engine burn - most likely in September or October of 2015 - that retargets our trajectory toward that soon-to-be explored KBO. Calculations show that it will most likely take three or four
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New find location coordinates available
And another UPDATE is available ! Jim Wooddell (SM 43 + SM 44) and Mike and Julie Steward (SM 15) Once again: Thank you, Peter! Martin Von: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New find location coordinates available (Off Topic) Datum: Mon, 07 May 2012 23:54:36 +0200 Another UPDATE of find locations http://asima.seti.org/sm/ Excellent! Thank you, Peter ! Von: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de An: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New find location coordinates available (Off Topic) Datum: Sat, 05 May 2012 17:36:29 +0200 Howabout that four-year old girl that found a meteorite? Her name is Loraine and she is in the list: SM10 6.2038.80532120.91835 -.- Loraine Logan (age: 4y) Martin Von: dorifry dori...@embarqmail.com An: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] New find location coordinates available (Off Topic) Datum: Sat, 05 May 2012 17:31:01 +0200 Great page with excellent information! This will set the standard for all subsequent falls. One glaring error that needs to be corrected however: They landed in a wide area that includes Sutter's Mill, where the first gold was discovered by James Marshall in January of 1848. That discovery led to the worlds largest migration in history, known as the California Gold Rush. NOT! 300,000 miners made up the Gold Rush. The world's largest historical migration was the movement of tens of millions of Chinese from rural areas to the cities. After WWII, tens of millions of Europeans migrated (16.5 million Germans migrated from Eastern Europe to Western Europe,) the Russian Civil War caused millions to migrate. Millions of slaves in America migrated from the South to the North. Millions migrated during the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the establishment of Pakistan. Nearly half a million Jews migrated to the former Palestine. Sorry for the OT rant, but if you're going to talk about history, get the facts straight! Howabout that four-year old girl that found a meteorite? Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de To: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 6:53 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] New find location coordinates available Peter Jenniskens has posted new find location coordinates: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ Thank you, Peter! Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO Detects Large Changes in Martian Sand Dunes
May 9, 2012 Dwayne Brown Headquarters, Washington 202-358-1726 dwayne.c.br...@nasa.gov Geoff Brown Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory, Laurel, Md. 240-228-5618 geoffrey.br...@jhuapl.edu Guy Webster Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. 818-354-6278 guy.webs...@jpl.nasa.gov RELEASE: 12-152 NASA MARS SPACECRAFT DETECTS LARGE CHANGES IN MARTIAN SAND DUNES WASHINGTON -- NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) has revealed that movement in sand dune fields on the Red Planet occurs on a surprisingly large scale, about the same as in dune fields on Earth. This is unexpected because Mars has a much thinner atmosphere than Earth, is only about one percent as dense, and its high-speed winds are less frequent and weaker than Earth's. For years, researchers debated whether or not sand dunes observed on Mars were mostly fossil features related to past climate, rather than currently active. In the past two years, researchers using images from MRO's High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera have detected and reported sand movement. Now, scientists using HiRISE images have determined that entire dunes as thick as 200 feet are moving as coherent units across the Martian landscape. The study was published online today by the journal Nature. This exciting discovery will inform scientists trying to better understand the changing surface conditions of Mars on a more global scale, said Doug McCuistion, director of NASA's Mars Exploration Program in Washington. This improved understanding of surface dynamics will provide vital information in planning future robotic and human Mars exploration missions. Researchers analyzed before-and-after images using a new software tool developed at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) in Pasadena. The tool measured changes in the position of sand ripples, revealing the ripples move faster the higher up they are on a dune. The study examined images taken in 2007 and 2010 of the Nili Patera sand dune field located near the Martian equator. By correlating ripples' movement to their position on the dune, the analysis determined the entire dunes are moving. This allows researchers to estimate the volume, or flux, of moving sand. We chose Nili Patera because we knew there was sand motion going on there, and we could quantify it, said Nathan Bridges, a planetary scientist at Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory in Laurel, Md., and lead author of the Nature paper. The Nili dunes also are similar to dunes in places like Antarctica and to other locations on Mars. The study adds important information about the pace at which blowing sand could be actively eroding rocks on Mars. Using the new information about the volume of sand that is moving, scientists estimate rocks in Nili Patera would be worn away at about the same pace as rocks near sand dunes in Antarctica, where similar sand fluxes occur. Our new data shows wind activity is indeed a major agent of evolution of the landscape on Mars, said Jean-Philippe Avouac, Caltech team leader. This is important because it tells us something about the current state of Mars and how the planet is working today, geologically. Scientists calculate that if someone stood in the Nili Patera dunes and measured out a one-yard width, they would see more than two cubic yards of sand pass by in an Earth year, about as much as in a children's sand box. No one had estimates of this flux before, said Bridges. We had seen with HiRISE that there was dune motion, but it was an open question how much sand could be moving. Now, we can answer that. Scientists will use the information to understand broader mysteries on Mars, like why so much of the surface appears heavily eroded, how that occurred, and whether it is a current process or it was done in the past. Scientists can now point to sand flux as a mechanism capable of creating significant erosion today on the Red Planet. The HiRISE camera provides unprecedented resolution in studying the Martian landscape. NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages MRO for NASA's Science Mission Directorate in Washington. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, Denver, built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona and was built by Ball Aerospace Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. For related images and more information about MRO, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/mro -end- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Hello Jim, Michael, All, I'm not so sure about that. Our team made the majority of its finds along roadsides because it was the easiest place to spot meteorites. Hunting in grass as your team did (Mike Hankey) is all very well for finding larger stones (and congrats on your find). But - smaller stones would be much harder to spot in grass. Finds on trails should have nothing to do with ethics, as trails typically belong to the land they run through. ...And that 7.3 gram stone I found was sitting right in the middle of the trail (I'll post a photo on facebook soon). I'm impressed by Mark Dayton's nearby five-gram find -- he must have been bush-whacking, and there was *a lot* of poison-oak in there. We spent some time off-trail in there, but it was tough going, and you'd have to just about step on a meteorite in order to find it. Same goes for most grassy areas. Jason On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Jason, I agree with what you are saying. Most of the finds are going to come from the easier/clear spots where the most people are looking hardest. I do think the majority of the finds are being recorded properly, but there have been some that have not been. Jim, I don't want to get into specifics publicly or make any accusations. Just saying: It would be nice if people would report the true location of their finds, and if they can't or don't want to, to just not report the find at all or keep the coordinates private. Posting fake coordinates is just a really crappy thing to do. In the grand scheme of things, most of the finds are probably correct, but I'm sure there are some that are not. Thanks, Mike On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Michael, All, I'm not so sure about that. Our team made the majority of its finds along roadsides because it was the easiest place to spot meteorites. Hunting in grass as your team did (Mike Hankey) is all very well for finding larger stones (and congrats on your find). But - smaller stones would be much harder to spot in grass. Finds on trails should have nothing to do with ethics, as trails typically belong to the land they run through. ...And that 7.3 gram stone I found was sitting right in the middle of the trail (I'll post a photo on facebook soon). I'm impressed by Mark Dayton's nearby five-gram find -- he must have been bush-whacking, and there was *a lot* of poison-oak in there. We spent some time off-trail in there, but it was tough going, and you'd have to just about step on a meteorite in order to find it. Same goes for most grassy areas. Jason On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hi to all, I am back
Hi to all. Been a long time since I posted. I am back. Hope everyone is well, will be posting more soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Meteorites for sale - NEW very unusual ureilite
The very high shock experienced by this specimen (causing complete recrystallization of silicates and evidently generation of significant amounts of microdiamond) is unusual among ureilites. Small adamantine crystals of diamond were extracted from the stone ... coarse-grained aggregate of olivine and orthopyroxene with finer grained interstitial regions containing opaque material, calcite and limonite. Some thin calcite veinlets cross-cut the specimen. Both olivine and pyroxene are completely recrystallized to aggregates of myriad tiny, polygonal subgrains. NWA 6871... http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Mike, Maybe there are typos in the maps??? I do know that Marc's map and my map did not match last night and I think I caught some errors and communicated that with him. Mine matched Peter's data. He may have received different data, I am not sure. We are submitting a few more finds today, Terry Scott and Rob Crane and Ruben Garcia's. While these are small frags, only a few of us were actually collecting frags on the days we were hunting. Working on the map and database files now. If you do know of bad data, maybe get that to Peter. Keep in mind that some of this is fluid and considered provisional data which is subject to change. For example, SM15 changed today. This is typical. Also, many folks did not have GPS units and the finds used the pointy finger approach on Google Earth. Will be interesting to learn what the name of this fall will be! Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Cc: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com; Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date Jason, I agree with what you are saying. Most of the finds are going to come from the easier/clear spots where the most people are looking hardest. I do think the majority of the finds are being recorded properly, but there have been some that have not been. Jim, I don't want to get into specifics publicly or make any accusations. Just saying: It would be nice if people would report the true location of their finds, and if they can't or don't want to, to just not report the find at all or keep the coordinates private. Posting fake coordinates is just a really crappy thing to do. In the grand scheme of things, most of the finds are probably correct, but I'm sure there are some that are not. Thanks, Mike On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:45 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Jim, Michael, All, I'm not so sure about that. Our team made the majority of its finds along roadsides because it was the easiest place to spot meteorites. Hunting in grass as your team did (Mike Hankey) is all very well for finding larger stones (and congrats on your find). But - smaller stones would be much harder to spot in grass. Finds on trails should have nothing to do with ethics, as trails typically belong to the land they run through. ...And that 7.3 gram stone I found was sitting right in the middle of the trail (I'll post a photo on facebook soon). I'm impressed by Mark Dayton's nearby five-gram find -- he must have been bush-whacking, and there was *a lot* of poison-oak in there. We spent some time off-trail in there, but it was tough going, and you'd have to just about step on a meteorite in order to find it. Same goes for most grassy areas. Jason On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
I would list it as anUnidentified Flying Object. Kirk - Original Message - From: Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu; meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT irridium flare? u got to be Fing kidding! It moved from the north star to out of site the same as every naked eye neo posted on heavens above. --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu, meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 4:02 PM My first thought was an iridium flare. Cheers, Pete Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:37 -0600 From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Garmin files
The Garmin gdb file, Google Earth file and picture of strewn for ???Sutter Mill??? is posted for 09 May 2012 http://k7wfr.us/sm/ Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Hi All, With about four different people posting coordinates and 'details', it is making it even more complicated. I personally think Peter Jenniskens web site should be the 'master' site to refer to and not start all of these sub-sites that are starting to confuse the big picture! Just my opinion! Best Regards, Greg Hupe On May 9, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] All Sutter Mill Micros are SOLD
Hi all, No need to contact me I have NO MORE.Sorry! -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes
List, My wife just found a copperhead under her foot. All this talk about rattle snake and this one didn't rattle. Syeve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes
My wife just found a copperhead under her foot. All this talk about rattle snake and this one didn't rattle. Copperhead? I'm not aware of copperheads in California. I've never heard of any here and I've lived here nearly 66 years. Perhaps you are thinking of the non lethal gopher snake that people often fear as being poisonous or something...which it is not. George Zay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes
On closer inspection to the corpse (the snake's not my wife's) and there is one little rattle, no wonder we couldn't hear it, it didn't have anything to rattle against. Steve --Original Message-- From: Michael Farmer To: meteorh...@aol.com Cc: Meteorite-List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes Sent: May 9, 2012 3:07 PM Rattler, no copperheads there, many young ones don't rattle. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 3:03 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: List, My wife just found a copperhead under her foot. All this talk about rattle snake and this one didn't rattle. Syeve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Hi Greg, Be assured my Garmin data and webpage is based on Peter's dataand no others. I too consider Peter's the master site. My site allows those with GPS units to upload it to their GPS's. So far, it's a huge success with folks. It also gives a good visual of the field with a picture! Might have another kmz with radar overlay soon! No additional data is being added away from Peter's site...just assisting hunters. Jim - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com; Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date Hi All, With about four different people posting coordinates and 'details', it is making it even more complicated. I personally think Peter Jenniskens web site should be the 'master' site to refer to and not start all of these sub-sites that are starting to confuse the big picture! Just my opinion! Best Regards, Greg Hupe On May 9, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
Heavens Above lists no NEO's that are visible to the naked eye, except Vesta, which occasionally becomes bright enough to be seen by a person with good eyesight, from perfectly dark skies. As far as I understand, there has never been a recorded NEO that has been easily visible to the naked eye and had a procession across the sky which you could visually perceive and there won't be until April 13th, 2029 when Apophis makes it's closest pass. Even then, at a magnitude of 3.4, it will be at the very limit of visibility from city skies. On 5/10/12, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Agreed that the brightness is consistent with a flare, but the rest of the report probably is not. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 11:02 AM, Marco Langbroek wrote: I agree: this cannot have been a NEO. General west to east movement and fading description fits a satellite. It can't have been the ISS by the way, given the time. But there are quite a number of other satellites than can flare to well into the negative magnitudes. - Marco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes
George: you are right, the gopher snake and the king snake can both look pretty imposing and are typically run over by misinformed motorists. Those snakes do a lot to get rid of rodents, etc. Now I was born here over 67 years ago, but must confess that I spent a few years in Grad school outside the state. Wellduring my life, I've lived roughly 10 years out of state due to military and the sort...but rest of the time lived in california. Being in the fire service for over 30 years, I've been on quite a few snake calls of all kinds it seems. About equally gopher snakes, king snakes and several varieties of rattle snakes. The king snakes we often would kill because they were in the neighborhoods where kids play. But the king snakes and gopher snakes we try to convince the callers of their beneficial status. If it seemed that they would kill it still after we leave, I'd try to catch them live and turn them loose at the station to feast on the gophers we have living there. Getting back to rattlesnakesI recall killing a western diamondback that was about 4 1/2 feet long, but was about 4 or 5 inches in diameter. I thought I came upon a short anaconda or something. :O) Also lassoed a rattlesnake that was over 6 feet long and had 15 rattles. My snake rod seemed as if I was trying to reel in a large tuna or something. There was no way I was gonna let him go. Had a tight grip on the noose. Up on the Sutter Mill area and the Yuba rivers where I played around dredging for gold I'd often come across Sierra Pacific rattlers. They are small and hard to see. Typically about 2 feet long with about 4 rattles. Found several of these in our camp over the years...lucky no one got bit. George Zay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes(correction)
Just notice i made an error...I said that we killed king snakes because of neighborhood kidsI meant to say rattlesnakes. We would never kill a king snake. geozay In a message dated 5/9/2012 4:06:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, geo...@aol.com writes: George: you are right, the gopher snake and the king snake can both look pretty imposing and are typically run over by misinformed motorists. Those snakes do a lot to get rid of rodents, etc. Now I was born here over 67 years ago, but must confess that I spent a few years in Grad school outside the state. Wellduring my life, I've lived roughly 10 years out of state due to military and the sort...but rest of the time lived in california. Being in the fire service for over 30 years, I've been on quite a few snake calls of all kinds it seems. About equally gopher snakes, king snakes and several varieties of rattle snakes. The king snakes we often would kill because they were in the neighborhoods where kids play. But the king snakes and gopher snakes we try to convince the callers of their beneficial status. If it seemed that they would kill it still after we leave, I'd try to catch them live and turn them loose at the station to feast on the gophers we have living there. Getting back to rattlesnakesI recall killing a western diamondback that was about 4 1/2 feet long, but was about 4 or 5 inches in diameter. I thought I came upon a short anaconda or something. :O) Also lassoed a rattlesnake that was over 6 feet long and had 15 rattles. My snake rod seemed as if I was trying to reel in a large tuna or something. There was no way I was gonna let him go. Had a tight grip on the noose. Up on the Sutter Mill area and the Yuba rivers where I played around dredging for gold I'd often come across Sierra Pacific rattlers. They are small and hard to see. Typically about 2 feet long with about 4 rattles. Found several of these in our camp over the years...lucky no one got bit. George Zay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] All Sutter Mill Micros are SOLD
Hi all, I NEVER challenge list emails and maybe that's why this one was thrown out there. However, I can't stay quiet on this one - It's just silliness to assume what we paid! Please Dan Miller tell me who sold for $200-$400 per gram. Names? I know of only one (fragment or complete stone) that sold for anywhere near that and it sold for $15000 for a 35.1 gram stone (which was $427 per gram) and I think that was fair for such a huge purchase. I realize I don't need to offer this information but I will. ALL of the fragments or individuals I purchased cost me between 500-1000 per gram. I then donated (not SOLD) specimens to ASU plus I helped make specimens available to other institutions. So please don't insinuate we are getting rich by fleecing the locals. Most dealers or meteorite enthusiasts lost money on the trip! P.S. I'm a buyer for these stones (broken or whole) and will pay at least $500 per gram and maybe more depending on it's features! On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Dan Miller dannysp...@gmail.com wrote: Some locals seem to think that the best they can do is $200 to 400 per gram I'm seeing dealers here selling for $ 1500 a gram and those are fractured specimens. Can I conclude that the locals have no idea what they are holding when it comes to selling value ? If that's the case good deals to all you dealers and collectors who are getting your specimens at wholesale and selling at retail. That is if retail is over 5 X that of wholesale. Peter at NASA. also said the fractured specimens are 200 to 400 a gram. I think the locals are getting their info from him. Dan On May 9, 2012 3:01 PM, Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, No need to contact me I have NO MORE.Sorry! -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: www.MrMeteorite.com Articles: www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Hi to all, I am back
Glad your back Greg!! * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.weebly.com * -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:38 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Hi to all, I am back Hi to all. Been a long time since I posted. I am back. Hope everyone is well, will be posting more soon. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill snkes
Rattler, no copperheads there, many young ones don't rattle. Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2012, at 3:03 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: List, My wife just found a copperhead under her foot. All this talk about rattle snake and this one didn't rattle. Syeve Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Well, you can always clarify things by taking the locations from Jenniskens' web site, drawing up a map, and posting it online... hehehe On 5/9/12 2:55 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Hi All, With about four different people posting coordinates and 'details', it is making it even more complicated. I personally think Peter Jenniskens web site should be the 'master' site to refer to and not start all of these sub-sites that are starting to confuse the big picture! Just my opinion! Best Regards, Greg Hupe On May 9, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddellnf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankeymike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmerm...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Friesmfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmerm...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Friesmfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] WANTED a 1mx1m coil for Lorenz metal detector
Hello all, This metal detector is commonly used for meteorite hunting. Looking for an used 1mx1m coil for Lorenz LPX2. Email me at mouti...@bol.com.br Thanks Andre __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Garmin files
Jim! Nice maps! Lots of work! I can imagine what your Franconia map looks like! Ha! Again thanks for the detailed maps! Dennis the Other Miller From: nf11...@npgcable.com To: bobhol...@cox.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 14:52:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Garmin files The Garmin gdb file, Google Earth file and picture of strewn for ???Sutter Mill??? is posted for 09 May 2012 http://k7wfr.us/sm/ Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] All Sutter Mill Micros are SOLD
There will be lots said, and plenty hard feelings all around about the monetary legacy of the Sutter's Mill meteorite. . We will be telling many tales on this one. Buyers, sellers, locals, scientist, media. Goldrush spins only make them better.. I'd like to say I'm happy to have one nice small frag assured for my collection before going looking for more. As to ripping off the locals, I paid nine bucks for a hamburger in Lotus. But special thanks to the Coloma local that let me sleep on his couch. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: NASA will host a news conference on Thursday, May 10, at 11 a.m. PDT (2 p.m. EDT) to present a new analysis of the giant asteroid Vesta using data from the agency's Dawn spacecraf
Hello Listers For all you Vesta junkies, I found a link which states that tomorrow there will be a news conference about Vesta and it seems NASA will present new analysis of the asteroid. I hope this news will give a better understand which meteorites come from Vesta and which meteorites don't. But I do have a question? Vesta is the second largest asteroid in the solar system and it has been documented that there are about 1000 HED classifications from this parent body, now wouldn't it make sense from statistics there should be at least 1000 classification or more from Ceres? As of right now from what I can gather, there are no meteorite classifications from Ceres? I wonder in the next couple years if we will find out that among our meteorites in our collection we have meteorites from these two parent bodies, at one time were thought to be from a different parent body, something to think about for those of you that need a break from Sutters Mill meteorite fall :) http://www.spaceref.com/calendar/calendar.html?pid=7421 Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? http://www.meteoritefalls.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] solar eclipse
My calander tells me that tomorrow is when! I've been so saturated with Sutter Mill fun that I've lost track. Please chime in...I may be completely off by a week or even more. Since I'll be diverting from CM-hunting and intsead going uphill from Coloma tomorrow into my morel zones (yes, the other treasure!), it would be a good sign to stop for a solar eclipse... Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: New York City metroshow this weekend!
Hi List (this second ad approved by admin), The NYC metro show (http://nycmetroshow.com/) is this weekend! Location: Meadowlands Expo Center 355 Plaza Drive, Secaucus, New Jersey 07094 Times: May 11, Friday (9 am - 7 pm) May 12, Saturday (9 am - 7 pm) May 13, Sunday (9 am - 4 pm) I'll have a few random meteorites there (mostly a bunch of campo) as Devonian Depot, TM Stones will be there as well, and possibly some other dealers. Come drop by! Especially if you're in the region and can't make it out to Denver or Tucson. Take care, Yinan Wang __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] solar eclipse
Richard: The solar eclipse is on May 20 in the late afternoon. http://eclipse-maps.com/Eclipse-Maps/Gallery/Pages/Annular_solar_eclipse_of_2012_May_20.html Larry My calander tells me that tomorrow is when! I've been so saturated with Sutter Mill fun that I've lost track. Please chime in...I may be completely off by a week or even more. Since I'll be diverting from CM-hunting and intsead going uphill from Coloma tomorrow into my morel zones (yes, the other treasure!), it would be a good sign to stop for a solar eclipse... Richard Montgomery __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date
Hi Jim, Your gps data web page is a major value-add to us hunters, thank you and all who are doing this kind of behind the scenes work!! I also appreciate all of the efforts by the contributing forces out there! Best Regards, Greg Hupe On May 9, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Hi Greg, Be assured my Garmin data and webpage is based on Peter's dataand no others. I too consider Peter's the master site. My site allows those with GPS units to upload it to their GPS's. So far, it's a huge success with folks. It also gives a good visual of the field with a picture! Might have another kmz with radar overlay soon! No additional data is being added away from Peter's site...just assisting hunters. Jim - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com Cc: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com; Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com; Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date Hi All, With about four different people posting coordinates and 'details', it is making it even more complicated. I personally think Peter Jenniskens web site should be the 'master' site to refer to and not start all of these sub-sites that are starting to confuse the big picture! Just my opinion! Best Regards, Greg Hupe On May 9, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com wrote: Mike, Which finds are you talking about??? I think Peter is confirming all of them. Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Hankey mike.han...@gmail.com To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com; Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2012 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma/Lotus/SM fall map to date i think some finds are also popping up in these locations due to err-ummm ethical reasons.. or lack of ethics i should say. On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Most found by roads and trails because rest is waist-high poison oak slithering with rattlesnakes. 99% or more will never be found. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Marc Fries mfri...@hotmail.com wrote: Howdy all There are a few people keeping track of the Coloma/Lotus/SM meteorite fall with maps, and let me give a hat tip to Peter Jenniskens for keeping up with the meteorites. He has a regularly updated list of these meteorites with masses and find locations: http://asima.seti.org/sm/ I've assembled these and a few others into a strewn field map: http://radarmeteorites.wordpress.com/2012/05/01/coloma-ca-strewn-field-map/ I've been chafing to get up there myself but have been restrained to hunting vicariously through others. I'll get up there, but I wanted to point out that there is a lot of area on that map with no finds, and that most of the finds seem to be close to trails and roads. Looks to me like there's still quite a lot of material waiting to be found...! Cheers, Marc Fries __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Garmin files
All, Rob Matson sent me his Google Earth kmz file to share which includes the radar overlay. It is together with the other files below the pictures on this page; http://k7wfr.us/sm/ Thanks Rob! For your viewing pleasure! Enjoy! Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter Mill Garmin files
AWESOME!!! Great job! Thanks for sharing guys. I'm amazed and happy at how fast and free the information from this fall was shared. Congrats to EVERYONE who found meteorites! Regards, Eric On 5/9/2012 8:16 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote: All, Rob Matson sent me his Google Earth kmz file to share which includes the radar overlay. It is together with the other files below the pictures on this page; http://k7wfr.us/sm/ Thanks Rob! For your viewing pleasure! Enjoy! Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT
Hi Steve, irridium flare? u got to be Fing kidding! It moved from the north star to out of site the same as every naked eye neo posted on heavens above. When you use the acronym NEO, that means asteroid, not artificial satellite. As others have pointed out, no way you saw ANY asteroid naked eye, so you're obviously talking about a manmade satellite. Given the brightness, and the lack of information about angular velocity, Iridium flare is a perfectly reasonable guess. If you want someone to ID what you saw, you just have to provide your latitude longitude. It is very easy to ID anything that reaches negative magnitude. --Rob --- On Wed, 5/9/12, Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT To: c...@alumni.caltech.edu, meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, May 9, 2012, 4:02 PM My first thought was an iridium flare. Cheers, Pete Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 09:37:37 -0600 From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NEO LAST NIGHT There are no NEOs anywhere near that bright. The only orbiting object that bright is the ISS. Most likely, this was a VERY near Earth object, like an airplane or weather balloon. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 5/9/2012 9:15 AM, Steve Dunklee wrote: Saw an near earth object last night @4:45am central time. First saw it just below polaris in the northern sky with a brightness like Venus at its brightest. where it started was obscured by a roof. It continued in an easternly direction passing the bottom of Cassiopea and faded out just to its left in i think the bottom of ?Draco? Found no postings on heavens above for an astroid passing by so if im first this ones name is Lesa2012. Cheers Steve __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Big Tatahouine lot for sale !
Hello, here are several nice Tatahouine specimens for sale, ranging from 5.98 grams to 16.59 grams. I'm making a 5% discount on each specimen until may 13th 2012 and if you're the first to buy the whole lot (14 specimens totalling 131.97 grams), I'm making a 15% discount + free shipping worldwide ! Anyway, contact me off list if you've got questions or to make another offer. Here's the link : http://www.meteor-center.com/grosses-tatahouine-2.jpg I've also three auctions running on ebay : http://members.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPageuserid=moky99 Have a nice day, Pierre-Marie Pele meteor-center.com IMCA 3360 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
