[meteorite-list] Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play Out

2013-02-14 Thread Paul H.
Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would
 Play Out by Jeffrey Kluger, Time, February 14, 2013
http://science.time.com/2013/02/14/asteroid-hits-earth-how-the-doomsday-scenario-would-play-out/

The Committee to Save the Planet: Who Watches the 
Asteroids? by Nina Burleigh, Time, February 12, 2013
http://world.time.com/2013/02/12/the-committee-to-save-the-planet-who-watches-the-asteroids/

Duck! Close Shave with an Asteroid Coming by Jeffrey 
Kluger, Time, February 05, 2013
http://science.time.com/2013/02/05/duck-close-shave-with-an-asteroid-coming/

An unrelated article for cat lovers:

How a Kitty Walked 200 Miles Home: The Science of 
Your Cat’s Inner Compass by Veronique Greenwood
Time, February 11, 2013
http://science.time.com/2013/02/11/the-mystery-of-the-geolocating-cat/?iid=sci-article-mostpop1

Yours,

Paul H.


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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play Out

2013-02-14 Thread Adam Hupe

I want to be part of the The Committee to Save the Planet  As far as I know, 
the Earth is the only planet that still serves cold beer and where you can get 
a decent hamburger.

Adam


The Committee to Save the Planet: Who Watches the 
Asteroids? by Nina Burleigh, Time, February 12, 2013    
http://world.time.com/2013/02/12/the-committee-to-save-the-planet-who-watches-the-asteroids/
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty

2013-02-14 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Carl,

I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen 
isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used as 
proof of water on Mars.

Thank you!

Mendy

On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Carl,
On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding
ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least
some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic
lubricant.  S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not
been 'messed with' after making inquiries.

And, yes, that statement applies.  Perhaps not to the material from
the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen
for sale has come from other sources.

I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it
does not surprise me that you would have curated it well.

Though I will say that it was a bit steep.

Regards,
Jason

On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Jason,
 
 I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains
 false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at
 least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM?
 The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol
 (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed
 with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine
 diamond wire.
 
 If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be
 happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample
 and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this
 meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011.
 
 PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15.
 
 Carl Agee
 
 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126
 
 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/
 
 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and
 soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few
 other stones.
 Please see our website for available specimens.
 
 http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php
 
 Thanks!
 Jason
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty

2013-02-14 Thread Carl Agee
Hi Mendy,

No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of
the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian
water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you
need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to
distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is
nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the
Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it
is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this
to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only
weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine
calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found
primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go
into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break
some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any
water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of
work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows
something new.  In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic
conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its
flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new
piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop
there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous --
especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply!

Carl Agee

-- 
Carl B. Agee
Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Carl,

 I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen 
 isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was used 
 as proof of water on Mars.

 Thank you!

 Mendy

 On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Carl,
 On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding
 ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least
 some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic
 lubricant.  S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not
 been 'messed with' after making inquiries.

 And, yes, that statement applies.  Perhaps not to the material from
 the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen
 for sale has come from other sources.

 I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it
 does not surprise me that you would have curated it well.

 Though I will say that it was a bit steep.

 Regards,
 Jason

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Jason,

 I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains
 false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at
 least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM?
 The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol
 (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed
 with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine
 diamond wire.

 If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be
 happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample
 and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this
 meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011.

 PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15.

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,
 I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and
 soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few
 other stones.
 Please see our website for available specimens.

 http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php

 Thanks!
 Jason

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty

2013-02-14 Thread Carl Agee
Hi Jason,

I wasn't aware that there were slices of Black Beauty cut by anyone
other than Matt Morgan or myself. We both used distilled water.

As you can imagine, I am much more interested in Black Beauty science
than the business end -- I'll let others worry about the market value.
What's that slogan again in the VISA ads?

Best,

Carl Agee

-- 
Carl B. Agee
Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/



On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:37 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Carl,
 On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding
 ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least
 some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic
 lubricant.  S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not
 been 'messed with' after making inquiries.

 And, yes, that statement applies.  Perhaps not to the material from
 the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen
 for sale has come from other sources.

 I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it
 does not surprise me that you would have curated it well.

 Though I will say that it was a bit steep.

 Regards,
 Jason

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Jason,

 I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains
 false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at
 least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM?
 The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol
 (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed
 with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine
 diamond wire.

 If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be
 happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample
 and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this
 meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011.

 PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15.

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,
 I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and
 soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few
 other stones.
 Please see our website for available specimens.

 http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php

 Thanks!
 Jason

 IMCA 7630
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty

2013-02-14 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
A sterile set of manual tools works wonders - good old fashioned
cleave/break/chip.  :)

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On 2/14/13, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Mendy,

 No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of
 the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian
 water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you
 need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to
 distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is
 nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the
 Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it
 is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this
 to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only
 weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine
 calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found
 primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go
 into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break
 some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any
 water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of
 work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows
 something new.  In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic
 conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its
 flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new
 piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop
 there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous --
 especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply!

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/


 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Carl,

 I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen
 isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was
 used as proof of water on Mars.

 Thank you!

 Mendy

 On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Carl,
 On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding
 ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least
 some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic
 lubricant.  S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not
 been 'messed with' after making inquiries.

 And, yes, that statement applies.  Perhaps not to the material from
 the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen
 for sale has come from other sources.

 I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it
 does not surprise me that you would have curated it well.

 Though I will say that it was a bit steep.

 Regards,
 Jason

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Jason,

 I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains
 false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at
 least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM?
 The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol
 (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed
 with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine
 diamond wire.

 If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be
 happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample
 and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this
 meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011.

 PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15.

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:24 AM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All,
 I just finished the page for some fragments of the unique water and
 soil-bearing Martian regolith breccia paired with NWA 7034 and a few
 other stones.
 Please see our website for available specimens.

 http://www.fallsandfinds.com/page88.php

 Thanks!
 Jason

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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - Black Beauty

2013-02-14 Thread Carl Agee
I agree, in fact I have done numerous break/chip/cleave on BB,
especially for the destructive analyses for isotopes. But the flat
surfaces from saw cuts, ground and polished, are needed for microprobe
and SEM.

Carl Agee


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Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
MSC03 2050
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

Tel: (505) 750-7172
Fax: (505) 277-3577
Email: a...@unm.edu
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Galactic Stone  Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
 A sterile set of manual tools works wonders - good old fashioned
 cleave/break/chip.  :)

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 Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
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 On 2/14/13, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Mendy,

 No, cutting in distilled water has no effect on the oxygen isotopes of
 the bulk rock, nor does it affect the hydrogen isotopes of the martian
 water in NWA 7034. Simply drying the slice after cutting is all you
 need to do. Remember, this is a desert meteorite, exposing it to
 distilled water for a few minutes at room temperature in a saw is
 nothing compared to many years of exposure to the elements in the
 Sahara. Nonetheless, NWA 7034 is relatively unweathered meteorite, it
 is amazingly hard and solid, tough to chip or break. I attribute this
 to its welding during volcanoclastic eruption and/or impact. The only
 weathering products we have identified in NWA 7034 are some fine
 calcite veins that can be traced back to the surface. These are found
 primarily in the outer edges, and are less common the deeper you go
 into the 320 g main mass. On the other hand, we are planning to break
 some material from the deep interior, without water, to search for any
 water soluble minerals that may be affected by water cutting. Lots of
 work still to do! -- mainly because every slice Black Beauty shows
 something new.  In my opinion, this rock is actually a volcanic
 conglomerate, that has picked up pebbles and soil particles during its
 flow over the martian surface or during impact. So, in a way each new
 piece of Black Beauty may reveal something more about Mars. I'll stop
 there, as you can see asking me about NWA 7034 is dangerous --
 especially if you are not ready for a lengthy reply!

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: (505) 750-7172
 Fax: (505) 277-3577
 Email: a...@unm.edu
 http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/


 On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Carl,

 I'm curious. Would cutting the stone in distilled water affect the oxygen
 isotope ratios? If I remember correctly that was one indicator that was
 used as proof of water on Mars.

 Thank you!

 Mendy

 On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:37 PM, jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Carl,
 On the contrary, the only reason I included the statement regarding
 ethylene glycol was because I was informed by a customer that at least
 some of the material on the market had been cut with synthetic
 lubricant.  S/he made a point of purchasing specimens that had not
 been 'messed with' after making inquiries.

 And, yes, that statement applies.  Perhaps not to the material from
 the 320 gram stone, but the vast majority of the material I have seen
 for sale has come from other sources.

 I've only seen a few grams of slices from Mr. Piatek's stone, but it
 does not surprise me that you would have curated it well.

 Though I will say that it was a bit steep.

 Regards,
 Jason

 On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Carl Agee a...@unm.edu wrote:
 Hi Jason,

 I looked at your link. I think you need to revise it since it contains
 false information about the cutting of Black Beauty (NWA 7034) -- at
 least if you are referring to the 320 g main mass that is at the IOM?
 The cutting was done with distilled water -- NOT ethylene glycol
 (antifreeze). Also, stating in your link that our samples were messed
 with seems to be a rather unusual way to describe cutting with a fine
 diamond wire.

 If you want to know anything specific about Black Beauty, I would be
 happy to talk to you about it and how to identify it in hand sample
 and nature of the reduced carbon -- my team has been studying this
 meteorite with numerous lab techniques since August 2011.

 PS: the Science Article print version will be on newsstands Feb. 15.

 Carl Agee

 --
 Carl B. Agee
 Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
 Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
 MSC03 2050
 University of New Mexico
 Albuquerque NM 87131-1126

 Tel: 

Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play Out

2013-02-14 Thread info
Right on, Adam. 
If only we could get some Tribbles. They'd be great for those moments
when a jerk cuts me off at highway speed in traffic, when the post
office unbelievably crushes one of my customer's packages, or when my
spouse occassionally goes into her dr. jekyll and mr. hyde act. Though,
I'd be torn about getting rid of my secret stash of quadrotriticale...

Best,
Daniel 

Daniel Noyes
Genuine Moon  Mars Meteorite Rocks
i...@moonmarsrocks.com
www.moonmarsrocks.com
ebay: danovanni

 
 
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Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:08:52 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 
Asteroid Hits Earth! How the Doomsday Scenario Would Play
To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


I want to be part of the The Committee to Save the Planet? As far as I
know, the Earth is the only planet that still serves cold beer and where
you can get a decent hamburger.

Adam


The Committee to Save the Planet: Who Watches the 
Asteroids? by Nina Burleigh, Time, February 12, 2013??? 
http://world.time.com/2013/02/12/the-committee-to-save-the-planet-who-watches-the-asteroids/


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[meteorite-list] FW: (meteorobs) [met-list] Moroc Long Duration Fireball with smoketrail 13FEB2013

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Verish
 Original Message 
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 17:55:55 +
From: Esko Lyytinen esko.lyyti...@jippii.fi
Subject: Re: (meteorobs) [meteorite-list] Moroc Long Duration Fireball
    with smoketrail 13FEB2013

We had here in Finland probably the best meteorite dropping fireball
that we have well captured in our cameras, in Feb, 16 , 2009 at 22 UT.
The geocentric radiant of this was 48, +28 , so this could be connected
to what you have now and maybe with what Dirk tells about.
The Vinf was derived as 13.5 km/s.

And actually we have during the years, around this time of the year, had
some other expected quite good meteorite droppers (at least one of these
outside our country borders) , with roughly similar solar system orbit.
It would be interesting to get the orbits derived for yours.

Keep all your cameras open, please ;)

Esko


On 2013-02-14 13:29, James Beauchamp wrote:

 Dirk , I've had three very slow events the last two days.  Radiant
 appears to be directly over head 38 degrees latitude, 8 PM central US
 time.

 Really slow, bright, with trails.

- End of Original Message --

In a nutshell, keep your allsky cameras fired-up!
These observations are as good of an early-warning system as we will get.

Can't say we weren't warned,
-- CL 
(Chicken Little)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Germany/Belgium, Holland Long Duration Bolide 13FEB2013

2013-02-14 Thread Marco Langbroek

Hi Dirk, others,

This fireball over NW Europe was actually the decay of a Russian Soyuz r/b, the 
3rd stage of the rocket that launched Progress-M 18M to the ISS on Feb 11th.


See my blog:
http://sattrackcam.blogspot.nl/2013/02/fireball-over-nw-europe-of-evening-of.html

- Marco


Dr Marco (183294) Langbroek
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[meteorite-list] Near-Earth Asteroid 2012 DA14 Makes Preview Appearance

2013-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-060  

Near-Earth Asteroid Makes Preview Appearance
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
February 14, 2013

[Animation]
This animated set of three images depicts asteroid 2012 DA14 as it was
seen on Feb. 14, 2013 This animated set of three images depicts asteroid
2012 DA14 as it was seen on Feb. 14, 2013, at a distance of 465,000
miles (748,000 kilometers). The animation was created by astronomers at
the Remanzacco Observatory in Italy using observations obtained remotely
from the Faulkes Telescope South in Siding Springs, Australia. Image
Image credit: LCOGT/Faulkes
- Full image and caption
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/multimedia/asteroid2012da14i.html

Like trailers for the coming attraction, new images show asteroid 2012
DA14 on its way to a record-close approach to Earth on Feb. 15. One
image, taken by amateur astronomer Dave Herald of Murrumbateman,
Australia, on Feb. 13, shows the asteroid as a tiny white dot in the
field of view. Another set of animated images, obtained by the Faulkes
Telescope South in Siding Springs, Australia, on Feb. 14, and animated
by the Remanzacco Observatory in Italy, shows the asteroid as a bright
spot moving across the night sky.

These are some of many images that may be taken of the asteroid during
its close - but safe - encounter with Earth. It will be observed by
numerous optical observatories worldwide in an attempt to determine its
rough shape, spin rate and composition. NASA scientists will use NASA's
Goldstone Solar System Radar, located in California's Mojave Desert, to
take radar images of the asteroid to determine its precise size and
shape on Feb. 16, 18, 19 and 20. The NASA Near Earth Object Observation
(NEOO) Program will continue to track the asteroid and predict its
future orbit.

Asteroid 2012 DA14 is about 150 feet (45 meters) in diameter. It is
expected to fly about 17,200 miles (27,000 kilometers) above Earth's
surface at the time of closest approach, which is about 11:25 a.m. PST
(2:25 p.m. EST) on Feb. 15. This distance is well away from Earth and
the swarm of low Earth-orbiting satellites, including the International
Space Station, but it is inside the belt of satellites in geostationary
orbit (about 22,200 miles, or 35,800 kilometers, above Earth's surface.)
The flyby of 2012 DA14 is the closest-ever predicted approach to Earth
for an object this large.

The NASA Near Earth Object Observation (NEOO) Program detects and tracks
asteroids and comets passing close to Earth using ground- and
space-based telescopes. The network of projects supported by this
program, commonly called Spaceguard, discovers these objects,
characterizes a subset of them and plots their orbits to determine if
any could be potentially hazardous to our planet.

The Near-Earth Object Program Office at JPL manages the technical and
scientific activities for NASA's Near-Earth Object Observation Program
of the Science Mission Directorate in Washington. JPL is a division of
the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. The NEOO Program
Office performs more precise orbit determination on the objects, and
predicts whether any will become an impact hazard to the Earth, or any
other planet in the solar system.

More information is available at:
http://www.nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/asteroidflyby.html .

DC Agle/Jia-Rui Cook 818-393-9011/4-0850
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
a...@jpl.nasa.gov / jcc...@jpl.nasa.gov

2013-060

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[meteorite-list] At The Mouth of the Red Valley (Mars Express)

2013-02-14 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/At_the_mouth_of_the_red_valley

At the mouth of the red valley
European Space Agency
14 February 2013

[Image]

ESA's Mars Express took a high-resolution stereo image on 13
January of the southeast corner of the Amenthes Planum region on
Mars, near to Palos crater and the mouth of a well-known sinuous
valley, Tinto Vallis.

At the bottom-centre of the full-colour image above, and up close
in the first perspective image, is a nearby shorter and wider
valley, which is fed by a number of tributaries before it joins
the mouth of Tinto Vallis as both empty into Palos crater, just
off the bottom of the image.

The 190 km-long Tinto Vallis is seen in the context image and is
named after the famous Rio Tinto river in the Andalucia region of
Spain. It is believed to have formed around 3.7 billion years ago,
during the early history of Mars.

[Image]
Valley feeding Palos Crater

The network of shorter valleys shown in the first perspective
image is thought to have formed through volcanic activity melting
subsurface ice and liberating water to the martian surface via
seeps and springs.

If underground water emerges to the surface from the side of a
slope - a process that planetary geologists call groundwater
sapping - it weakens the ground above it, causing it to collapse.
Over time, this process may lead to the formation of steep-sided
U-shaped valleys.

Groundwater sapping is believed to be responsible for erosion seen
in many of the valley networks on the Red Planet.

[Image]
Amenthes Planum in context

Another eye-catching feature is the relatively deep 35 km-wide
crater seen in the left-hand portion of the colour, topographic
and 3D images. Spectacular landslides along the crater's walls can
be seen and are particularly evident along the broken southern
(left) rim.

This crater sits on top of at least three older craters, the
largest of which is 100 km wide and dominates the whole top left
half of the 2D and 3D anaglyph images. The western rim of this
crater continues beyond the image frame, and can be more easily
distinguished in the context image.

[Image]
Amenthes Planum topography

The floor of this 100 km-wide crater is chaotic, with flat-topped
geological features called mesas, and their smaller siblings,
buttes, littering the floor. These are probably the result of the
removal of subsurface water ice leading to the collapse of weaker
material around them, leaving these more resistant high-sided
features behind.

On Earth, the desert regions in Utah are home to many examples of
these types of formation.

[Image]
Trough feeding Amenthes Planum

Toward the north (right) side of the 2D images, several smaller
craters display very smooth and flat floors, from infilling by
sediments.

The darker regions to the far north and south shown most clearly
in the first colour image are covered in wind-transported basaltic
sands.

The smooth low-lying region to the far right and shown in the
second perspective image is a small trough that feeds into the
broader lava field of Amenthes Planum. The trough has likely been
modified by the outflow of material from the ancient lake that may
have once existed in Palos crater, the rim of which can only just
be seen at the bottom of the colour, topographic and 3D images.

This smooth, channel-like feature brushes against the rim of a 30
km-wide crater, and both have been covered with dark wind-blown
materials.

[Image]
Amenthes Planum in 3D

With these recent images, Mars Express continues to show the
similarities between regions on Mars with those on our home planet.

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[meteorite-list] Book of Australia/Wolf Creek Crater

2013-02-14 Thread hall
   I just finished a rather enjoyable old book by Arthur W. Upfield, The
Will Of The Tribe, that has as a central feature Wolf Creek Crater,
also referred to as Lucifer's Couch. It is a book of fiction, with a
Copyright of 1962. It provides much laughter and possibly some insight
into the aborigines and white ranchers of the time, around the area of
Hall's Creek and the Wolf Creek Crater.
   If you read it, you will find that Mister Lamb provides much of the
merriment. Of course, a body is found in the crater, with the back of
the head bashed in. This is a Mystery book, after all. Loads of fun.
Fred Hall

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[meteorite-list] Best. Fireball. Ever.

2013-02-14 Thread Rob Wesel

Just came through, check the video.

http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/

Rob Wesel 
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and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-02-14 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified NWA

Contributed by: plagioklas

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Russian Meteor event?

2013-02-14 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Pieces on the ground?

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_worldid=8993349
The ministry said some fragments fell near the
town of Satka, about 200 kilometers (120 miles)
from the regional capital city of Chelyabinsk.

Sterling K. Webb
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From: Yinan Wang veom...@gmail.com

To: METEORITE LIST meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:40 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Russian Meteor event?



Hey List,

Anyone hearing reports of a major meteor in Russia in the past few
hours? Supposedly large shockwave blew out windows.

Some interesting videos have been popping up on youtube, judge for 
yourself:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c-0iwBEswE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5xMYRBpLSI

-Yinan
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[meteorite-list] Discovery of new Arizona meteorite strewnfield from Casa Grande Fireball June 1998

2013-02-14 Thread wahlperry


Hi List,

Here is a link to the story of our new discovery. I want to be sure 
anyone going into this area uses upmost caution for their safety.


Sonny


http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/New_AZ_Meteorite_Sonny_Clary.html



For more information on the location of this strewnfield please refer 
the Galactic Analytics website

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