[meteorite-list] AD - Ebay Auctions Ending Today!
Hello List, i have some auctions at Ebay ending today, please see here: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?item=221152343239pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item337db4f4c7_ssn=gipometeoritesrt=ncLH_Auction=1 There is also an new classified Howardite! Best greetings, Carsten Giessler __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The stones from the desert.
Hi List! What can you say these stones? Thank you! http://www.meteoritics.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=755 Yours faithfully. Aleksandr. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Will exportation of the Chelyabinsk meteorite be banned?
Heck yes it will. Mr. Framer has promised us $2/gram material and I've been savin' up! Paul Swartz From: James Masny (sciflye...@gmail.com) Check ou the link: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/mobile/news/article/meteorite-export-ban-proposed-in-duma/476236.html Will some of this material eventually make it over here legally to be sold by our trusted dealers? Jim __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Baygorria/Campo in Tucson 2005
When I bought from them in 2005 I knew it was Campo. They had such a huge selection and with prices less than $35 a kilo it was hard to pass up. I found a piece shaped just like a sea otter balancing a shell on its chest and picked up a couple of small pieces for their silicate contents. It was like a candy store. The Baygorria part was all wink wink nudge nudge. Chauncey Colorado COMETS __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Is this from space?
I am by no means an expert at this meteorite stuff... but many of you seem to be the best at it. I found this in a rock garden pile, it looked very different from the rest of the rocks. If someone has the time, could you look at it and let me know if it was blackened while coming from space... or something else. Here is the link to the photos. http://www.satwatch.org/meteor/mysteryrock/ Thanks a bunch! Mike Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Baygorria/Campo in Tucson 2005
Speaking of silicated Campos, I am looking for a nice specimen, and have a 47.9g endcut of Zag w/ about 30% black crust in trade. It comes with Húpe provenance and is displayed in a display box with silica gel for protection. This isn't some of the rusted away junk you see these days, this is very fresh and displays a nice brecciatted matrix. If interested, message me off list. Thanks and have a great weekend everyone. Regards, Brandon D. (eBay: Meteor-rite) On Mar 3, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Chauncey Walden clwalden...@comcast.net wrote: When I bought from them in 2005 I knew it was Campo. They had such a huge selection and with prices less than $35 a kilo it was hard to pass up. I found a piece shaped just like a sea otter balancing a shell on its chest and picked up a couple of small pieces for their silicate contents. It was like a candy store. The Baygorria part was all wink wink nudge nudge. Chauncey Colorado COMETS __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The stones from the desert.
Aleksandr, Has the appearance of an igneous porphyry of some sort. Looks like the larger light phenocrysts are feldspars (fairly pale colour so possibly plagioclase?) and possibly the dark flecks are biotite. It appears finely veined with quartz or calcite so may have undergone some hydrothermal alteration. I'm pretty much guessing. Igneous petrology is not my strong point but I'm sure there are others around that might be able to deduce something more definitive from an image alone. Regards, John On 03/03/2013 02:44, A.V.Leonenko alph...@rambler.ru wrote: Hi List! What can you say these stones? Thank you! http://www.meteoritics.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=755 Yours faithfully. Aleksandr. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] The stones from the desert.
Put it this way. There is nothing in the texture that I can see that would say it is definitely not terrestrial. Saying it is possibly extraterrestrial would take someone with experience to spot something I don't see. Looks pretty coarse grained and too differentiated (andesite? sort of composition) to be anything common for a planetary. I'd be interested to know if any meteoritic analogues to this sort of rock do exist. Can't make a definite call myself. It is pretty however :-) Regards, John On 03/03/2013 08:54, A.V.Leonenko alph...@rambler.ru wrote: bh�MKN7DaFu62exHztYTb9aXGIQnQ8I9paVtzxLifq30=; h=From:To:Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:Message-Id: References; b=tUGwPmLU18iZQYvFDfQsolWoLyBI+xX2Lj1mD2hPoLEDQAg/rE6e4uyuFRI/eRpPY eN0/EhuA31FXDQ4diS4wqqaI05VOnVJjuVI2ptqqigZEPjRu8+y7hZo5tUV3NG20rG elOFRSiz/jSACQtuR4bVVvcbmg03Hkaj4ckiXfMg Thanks for rating! So it is certainly not a meteorite? Yours faithfully. Aleksandr. Navoi сity. Uzbekistan. 3 марта 2013 г. 20:42:03 пользователь Pict (p...@pict.co.uk) написал: Aleksandr, Has the appearance of an igneous porphyry of some sort. Looks like the larger light phenocrysts are feldspars (fairly pale colour so possibly plagioclase?) and possibly the dark flecks are biotite. It appears finely veined with quartz or calcite so may have undergone some hydrothermal alteration. I'm pretty much guessing. Igneous petrology is not my strong point but I'm sure there are others around that might be able to deduce something more definitive from an image alone. Regards, John On 03/03/2013 02:44, A.V.Leonenko alph...@rambler.ru wrote: Hi List! What can you say these stones? Thank you! http://www.meteoritics.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=755 Yours faithfully. Aleksandr. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Looking for nice slice of Silicated Campo in trade for 47.9 brecciated Zag endcut
Hello Everyone, I am looking for a nice Silicated Campo slice, and have a 47.9g endcut of Zag w/ about 30% black crust in trade. It comes with Húpe provenance and is displayed in a display box with silica gel for protection. This isn't some of the rusted away junk you see these days, this is very fresh and displays a nice brecciatted matrix. If interested, message me off list for pictures. Thanks and have a great weekend everyone. Regards, Brandon D. (eBay: Meteor-rite) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: new finest etched Imilchil irons
Dear List Members, today i have listed on ebay some new finest etched Imilchil irons. Highlight today is a nice Individual, what was cut in two halfs. This both pieces shows a reaheated rim, crazy Neumann lines, large Troilite inclusions and some nice Schreibersite. Thats are real all in one pieces. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-IMILCHIL-NEW-Iron-Find-2012-perfect-etched-Endcut-75-7g-Special-/370772095006?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5653bd301e http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-IMILCHIL-NEW-Iron-Find-2012-perfect-etched-Endcut-62-9g-Special-/230939233744?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item35c50d0dd0 And the second Highlight is a piece with a large Troilite inclusion in the Schreibersite inclusion. This mix of inclusion also contains some small black inclusions.very interesting! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Meteorite-IMILCHIL-NEW-Iron-Find-2012-perfect-etched-Endcut-28-5g-Special-/370772099303?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5653bd40e7 ...also all other etched Imilchils are very nice and all offers you can find here: http://stores.ebay.com/Mirko-Graul-Meteorite?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 Best regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Busted!!! That is proof of blatant deception. I'm glad I have not purchased anything from Jorge! Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:37 PM To: Ken Newton Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Jorge M. Gonçalves Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON,be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List,I am warning you... Wow! Thanks you Ken for bringing that to light!! Blatant that is. Jorge, it would seem you have been backed into a corner. I await your rebuttal as I have purchased several witnessed falls from you though they have been separated from our Main collection and put into the suspect cabinet. Please, do explain... Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6141 - Release Date: 03/01/13 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ALTERNATIVE dealing with eBay Fraud! JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Hi all: I'm must plead somewhat guilty in that I sometimes purchase small meteorites (usually micro-bits) from certain sellers listing items on EBay, usually because those particular sellers can supply what I want at a relatively, for me, good price (despite the increasing shipping costs). I'm also guilty, as, from time to time, again when funds are available, I purchase small specimens directly from certain dealers who do not list on EBay, and even from a couple of dealers who aren't on this list! For the most part, my experiences have been satisfactory. I did see an ad on Ebay initially offering pieces of the new Russian fall, from a source listed as being in Las Vegas, Nevada. As these specimens were being offered within minutes of the meteorites hitting the ice/snow, I reasoned that these specimens were indeed fraudulent! And I offered the seller my opinion on his items in my very best diplomatic language. I, for now, will wait until one of the dealers I know has some of this fall in stock, at a price I can afford, whether from a dealer's listing on EBay, or from a dealer's web store. Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this from space?
To me it looks like it's been heated with a torch on the one end or maybe it was in or near a campfire. It doesn't look like a meteorite to me but I am not an expert. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of SatWatch.org Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:19 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Is this from space? I am by no means an expert at this meteorite stuff... but many of you seem to be the best at it. I found this in a rock garden pile, it looked very different from the rest of the rocks. If someone has the time, could you look at it and let me know if it was blackened while coming from space... or something else. Here is the link to the photos. http://www.satwatch.org/meteor/mysteryrock/ Thanks a bunch! Mike Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this from space?
Not even close to be a meteorite. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: To me it looks like it's been heated with a torch on the one end or maybe it was in or near a campfire. It doesn't look like a meteorite to me but I am not an expert. Abe Guenther -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of SatWatch.org Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 7:19 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Is this from space? I am by no means an expert at this meteorite stuff... but many of you seem to be the best at it. I found this in a rock garden pile, it looked very different from the rest of the rocks. If someone has the time, could you look at it and let me know if it was blackened while coming from space... or something else. Here is the link to the photos. http://www.satwatch.org/meteor/mysteryrock/ Thanks a bunch! Mike Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk meteorite?
No. It is NOT a meteorite ken newton On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Alex Nobody alexrocksandsto...@yahoo.com wrote: This one http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-RUSSIAN-CHELYABINSK-CHONDRITE-METEORITE-FRAGMENT-/271162857175?ViewItem=ssPageName=ADME%3AX%3ARTQ%3AUS%3A1123item=271162857175nma=truesi=4tof%252Bho%252FDJ7kf4%252FF%252FyEt5bbQ9m0%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 was sold on EBAY for $103, but is this a meteorite? Cheers, __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Is this from space?
Something else. kn On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:19 AM, SatWatch.org cont...@satwatch.org wrote: I am by no means an expert at this meteorite stuff... but many of you seem to be the best at it. I found this in a rock garden pile, it looked very different from the rest of the rocks. If someone has the time, could you look at it and let me know if it was blackened while coming from space... or something else. Here is the link to the photos. http://www.satwatch.org/meteor/mysteryrock/ Thanks a bunch! Mike Sent from my iPad __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the first 2 pages. Reads: * American Meteorite Museum Sedona, Arizona. American Museum Laboratory (successor) P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page... * Copyright, 1942 By H. H. Nininger * Revised, 1944 2nd Revision, 1946 3rd Revision, 1951 4th Revision, 1953 5th Revision, 1957 * further down at bottom of page says: * printed by Desert Press, Inc Palm Desert, California * I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the rest of the 65 page book. * Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If so any value? Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date?? Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the first 2 pages. Reads: * American Meteorite Museum Sedona, Arizona. American Museum Laboratory (successor) P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page... * Copyright, 1942 By H. H. Nininger * Revised, 1944 2nd Revision, 1946 3rd Revision, 1951 4th Revision, 1953 5th Revision, 1957 * further down at bottom of page says: * printed by Desert Press, Inc Palm Desert, California * I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the rest of the 65 page book. * Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk meteorite?
Looks a lot like hematite / goethite or industrial slag! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Hi Don and List, My copy shows this on page 2: A Comet Strikes the Earth H.H. Nininger American Meteorite Laboratory and on page 3, only this: © 1942, 1969 By H.H. Nininger - Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Hi Don/list, I have a few of these booklets in different colours and i asked the question to Mike Jensen a while ago. Below is his reply: Those are available in several different colors. I seem to find the bright orange? color the most. But I have seen a more red cover and one closer to the 1969 yellow? color as well. So yes they are produced in several different colors. I always thought the blue ones were the rarest color but I have actually seen several of them recently. I also must point out I have seen so few of them over the years that my opinions are based on a very small population so I could easily be wrong when I state rarest...most...fewest...etc. Something I find curious is only the 42 seems to have been produced in several different colors. I do have one later edition that has a very light yellow cover but every other book I have seen is the 69 yellow cover So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover and you may be able to date them according to the colour of the cover. Nice little booklets :-) Cheers Martin On 3 March 2013 19:57, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If so any value? Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date?? Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the first 2 pages. Reads: * American Meteorite Museum Sedona, Arizona. American Museum Laboratory (successor) P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page... * Copyright, 1942 By H. H. Nininger * Revised, 1944 2nd Revision, 1946 3rd Revision, 1951 4th Revision, 1953 5th Revision, 1957 * further down at bottom of page says: * printed by Desert Press, Inc Palm Desert, California * I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the rest of the 65 page book. * Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Hi Bernd, Don and list, Upon checking the three copies i have, the orange and blue coloured copies are from 1942 and the copyright is just shown as copyright H H Nininger 1942. The later 1969 yellow edition is marked as Bernd describes. Hope that helps. Cheers Martin On 3 March 2013 20:11, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Hi Don and List, My copy shows this on page 2: A Comet Strikes the Earth H.H. Nininger American Meteorite Laboratory and on page 3, only this: © 1942, 1969 By H.H. Nininger - Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Hello Don, Martin, List, So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover My © 1942, 1969 edition is definitely *orange* Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
My theory busted straight away then Bernd :-) Cheers Martin On 3 March 2013 20:27, Bernd V. Pauli bernd.pa...@paulinet.de wrote: Hello Don, Martin, List, So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover My © 1942, 1969 edition is definitely *orange* Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date??
Thanks Martin and Bernd. My color is yellow. Don - Original Message - From: Martin Goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com To: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date?? Hi Don/list, I have a few of these booklets in different colours and i asked the question to Mike Jensen a while ago. Below is his reply: Those are available in several different colors. I seem to find the bright orange? color the most. But I have seen a more red cover and one closer to the 1969 yellow? color as well. So yes they are produced in several different colors. I always thought the blue ones were the rarest color but I have actually seen several of them recently. I also must point out I have seen so few of them over the years that my opinions are based on a very small population so I could easily be wrong when I state rarest...most...fewest...etc. Something I find curious is only the 42 seems to have been produced in several different colors. I do have one later edition that has a very light yellow cover but every other book I have seen is the 69 yellow cover So it appears that the 1969 edition has the yellow cover and you may be able to date them according to the colour of the cover. Nice little booklets :-) Cheers Martin On 3 March 2013 19:57, Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com wrote: I am guessing that by the last Revised Copyright that it is from 1957? If so any value? Sincerely Don Merchant - Original Message - From: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant dmerc...@rochester.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Question on Book Copyright date?? Hi List. I have a question about the book A Comet Strikes The Earth by H H Nininger. How do I actually know what edition it is? It does come with a meteorite fragment placed in hole cutout. Here is the info looking at the first 2 pages. Reads: * American Meteorite Museum Sedona, Arizona. American Museum Laboratory (successor) P.O. Box 2098 Denver Colorado 80201.next page... * Copyright, 1942 By H. H. Nininger * Revised, 1944 2nd Revision, 1946 3rd Revision, 1951 4th Revision, 1953 5th Revision, 1957 * further down at bottom of page says: * printed by Desert Press, Inc Palm Desert, California * I see nothing else as far as dates, copyrights and the such throughout the rest of the 65 page book. * Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio
Hello Mike, Carl, Jason, Ted and List,
Carl Esparza began hunting the original Cat Mountain location, which is
practically in his back yard, after I casually mentioned to him that a newbie,
Mr. Mike Holden, had sent me a 107 gram rock that Mike had found near the
location of the original Cat Mountain meteorite. Holden had contacted me in
response to an ad I had placed on Craig's List soliciting possible meteorites.
I prevailed on the Holden to send me his find.
I paid to have a 22.5 gram specimen I sliced off classified by Dr. Ted Bunch of
Space Science Consulting Services. Before I did that, I posted photos of the
find on this List and solicited opinions. Listees might remember that my
friend, Greg Hupe', said it looked slagadosious:0) But, Ted's classification
came back that the approx. 20 gram slice I had cut from the Holden's find was,
unarguably, a pairing to the original Cat Mountain held by Haag. I took an
agreed 23.4 gram slice of Holden's Cat Mountain for my collection, and the
remaining 62 gram meteorite was returned and quickly purchased by Ruben Garcia.
Ruben has sold, at my estimate, over $1,500.00 in slices without complaint.
Carl Esparza found, MONTHS LATER, and within a few hundred yards from Holden's
find, a rock which he sent to me at my request. After examining it, I sliced
off approximately 22 grams and engaged Dr. Bunch to classify it. It came back
from Ted as a pairing to both other known Cat Mountain specimens. The
meteorite, minus the sample sent to Bunch for classification and cutting and
polishing loss was misplaced, or stolen, after I engaged and paid Fed Ex to
return it to Carl. I have been, regrettably, accused of stealing it. Not
withstanding the fact I already had a a nice slice of Cat Mountain.
There is no love lost between Carl and I, but I can't stand by and allow him to
be labeled an arm chair warrior who has never provided a recovery. That is a
blatantly false statement and quite easily refuted by the existance of in situ
and in hand specimen photography, proven time line, shipping records,
professional written classification and the physical sample on deposit at NAU.
No matter what else Carl has done that others can find fault with, the
unimpeachable fact is, that Carl Esparza recovered an oriented, approx. 187
gram, Cat Mountain meteorite from a known strewn field at his own expense and
risk...and ultimately his loss.
Regards,
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
-Original Message-
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
Sent: Mar 2, 2013 8:46 AM
To: cdtuc...@cox.net cdtuc...@cox.net
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio
Carl, the problem is armchair warriors like you who cry and whine incessantly
but have yet to provide a real meteorite, have no idea the troubles us
hunters go through to fill the collections of the world, and don't care. You
have been involved in many scams but no recoveries. Some of us have the sack
to take risks, some, like you, do not.
Sincerely
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2013, at 10:42 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
List,
I have been around Bob Haag (this radio voice does not sound like bob?) and
the meteorite world long enough to say that in my opinion, Bob Haag and The
Meteorite Men TV show have done nothing but, improve the popularity of
meteorites and those men have represented us well. These are the rock stars
of our field. To see the look in the eyes of the kids while getting Geoff's
autograph is truly a sight to see. Geoff should make us all proud.
So, before you knock them please look at the real cause of the problems;
1) It all started when a certain Meteorite Man was (wrongly) jailed for
attempting to export a 37 ton iron meteorite from Argentina. {Made the press}
1) We do have NYT articles that put out bad information. {made the press}
2) Whether it's true or not The Egyptian officials themselves say it is
illegal to export their meteorites. {made the press}
3) Whether it's true or not We also have India officials saying it is
illegal to export it's meteorites. {made the press}
4) We also have incidents where people admit to being tried , convicted and
imprisoned for illegal mining of meteorites. And then further publicize it
on the local news. {made the press}
5) And of coarse there are all of the news stories about the value of
meteorites. {made the press}
6). Too many more stories to list here but, the point is that the situation
this field is in today cannot be blamed on any one single thing but can be
attributed to many things.
I see the field as growing and improving dramatically.
Our genius scientists are discovering more and more points of interest and
our semi-genius hunters are finding more and more good material.
It's all good.
Carl
Meteoritemax
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Cheers
Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Guido Asked:
Can
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite market talk on radio
Mike, Why are you always on the attack?
The truth is that I do not risk jail by committing illegal acts. Never have and
never will.
But, if I were ever jailed I certainly would never brag about it.
The point of my post was to relinquish the blame of the state of the market
from Geoff and Steve. They are good for our field and I think they always will
be.
So, please share us your attacks. I stay away from you but would ask that you
try to keep the negative things out of the press.
You are very lucky most people admire your antics. I have to admit, you make
good press but it is unfortunately not always good GOOD press. Mike, I LOVE
YA MAN. PLEASE STOP THE ATTACKS .
CARL
METEORITEMAX
--
Cheers
Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Carl, the problem is armchair warriors like you who cry and whine incessantly
but have yet to provide a real meteorite, have no idea the troubles us
hunters go through to fill the collections of the world, and don't care. You
have been involved in many scams but no recoveries. Some of us have the sack
to take risks, some, like you, do not.
Sincerely
Michael Farmer
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 1, 2013, at 10:42 PM, cdtuc...@cox.net wrote:
List,
I have been around Bob Haag (this radio voice does not sound like bob?) and
the meteorite world long enough to say that in my opinion, Bob Haag and The
Meteorite Men TV show have done nothing but, improve the popularity of
meteorites and those men have represented us well. These are the rock stars
of our field. To see the look in the eyes of the kids while getting Geoff's
autograph is truly a sight to see. Geoff should make us all proud.
So, before you knock them please look at the real cause of the problems;
1) It all started when a certain Meteorite Man was (wrongly) jailed for
attempting to export a 37 ton iron meteorite from Argentina. {Made the
press}
1) We do have NYT articles that put out bad information. {made the press}
2) Whether it's true or not The Egyptian officials themselves say it is
illegal to export their meteorites. {made the press}
3) Whether it's true or not We also have India officials saying it is
illegal to export it's meteorites. {made the press}
4) We also have incidents where people admit to being tried , convicted and
imprisoned for illegal mining of meteorites. And then further publicize it
on the local news. {made the press}
5) And of coarse there are all of the news stories about the value of
meteorites. {made the press}
6). Too many more stories to list here but, the point is that the situation
this field is in today cannot be blamed on any one single thing but can
be attributed to many things.
I see the field as growing and improving dramatically.
Our genius scientists are discovering more and more points of interest and
our semi-genius hunters are finding more and more good material.
It's all good.
Carl
Meteoritemax
--
Cheers
Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Guido Asked:
Can anyone argue that we are better off as a result of three years
hyping the rarity and value of meteorites on cable TV and in the
nation's print media?
I am beginning to long for the good old days just a decade ago. I have
seen over a dozen countries restrict meteorite hunting including the U.S.
in the past few years, many farms and ranches are now off limits due to
the perception of being treated, fraud is at an all time high and wackos
are coming out of the woodwork at an alarming rate. Other than that, we
are great shape.
Every time a self-proclaimed spokesperson seeking fleeting fame steps up
to the plate, the rest of us are left to deal with the aftermath.
Happy Hunting,
Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite
Hello Martin, All, No, no, no, and no. I do not directly refer to the NWA 7034-paired material on my website as NWA 7034. I merely state that it is paired material. In the case of 7034, I scrutinized even the smallest fragments and volunteered a fragment for destructive analysis here at school. One of the fragments I received was not the same material as NWA 7034, and it is set aside. Admittedly, the sample for work is not 20% of the weight of the lot of fragments. But , since I'm not self-assigning an NWA number, the rules have been followed. Standard practice would dictate that I donate 20% of the lot of fragments to science, which would not necessitate cut samples from every fragment I have. If I didn't know what I were doing, and donated a ~2 gram fragment from the ~10 gram lot, most of the smaller pieces *could* be terrestrial crap, but the meteorite would be analyzed, approved, and you would (I assume) not be questioning it. While you may not examine prices carefully, a few weeks ago, the standard price for NWA 7034 was $20,000-30,000 per gram for pieces less than a half gram or so. Only pieces in the gram+ range were as little as $10,000 per gram. I started my pricing at $10,000 per gram and went down to $5,000 per gram for larger pieces. My prices were a fraction of the advertised price for these stones, and unless other dealers have dropped their prices by ~50% or more, my prices are still lower. So, yes, my specimens are priced at a fraction of what other specimens are (or were) priced at. I haven't looked around in the past week or so, but I assume that's still true. Since I paid just over five times as much per gram for this material as I have for any other meteorite from NWA, I think that's fair. Why donating 20 grams or 20% of the material would enable me to raise prices by 50% to 300% is beyond my comprehension, though. I donated a fragment of the NWA 2975 lot to destructive research at UC Berkeley; it was mechanically destroyed, and the maskelynite crystals were removed for several Ar dating runs (which did agree with the conclusions reached by other dating methods for NWA 2975). Of course, since those stones could also have come from different locations, in theory, I would need to cut or break each one to confirm it, right? Even the ones that weigh 0.1-0.2 grams. By and large, I try to be reasonable with such things. Where do you draw the line between a large find like Taza or NWA 869 and something like NWA 2975? NWA 801? Each of these meteorites are now examples of large finds with hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals on the market. As such, I thought NWA 2975 would be a fine name to use. Everyone knows it, the stones are easily recognizable, and there is already much of it in labs waiting to be studied. http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/antmet/mmc/NWA2975.pdf I accurately describe TKW's to the best of my knowledge and describe things as fully as I can on my website so that there is no potential for misinformation. The vast majority of our stones are individually analyzed. The only stones on the website that have not been analyzed -- yet, that I would be willing to say have an official number on our website -- are NWA 2975. It's too common and easily recognizable to bother. Regards, Jason On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi Jason, no offense, but only a remark. You're always pretty fast, when it's about blaming sellers to be dishonest or fraudulent. In my personal opinion that doesn't fit directly well together with some offerings on your webpage. For instance some of the Martians, there it is not directly clear for the reader, whether the specimens, which you reckon to be paired to black beauty - NWA 7034 are parts of the original stones, which were numbered or whether they will be still classified and will receive an own NWA number or whether they were told by a scientist to be paired and remain unnumbered or whether it's your personal opinion based on your experience. Same to some extent with the obviously unclassified stones, where you use the number NWA 2975 (which was one single stone) in the menu side bar. In my eyes that is problematical. It seems to be a classical self-pairing, which should be a no-go for IMCA-members. But especially it's somewhat not so fine for the not yet so experienced collectors, as they often are not aware, that such unclassified stones will have later in case they want to swap or trade them once, do have a remarkably lower collector's and trade value - thus a lower monetary value than their officially recognized and numbered comrades. Neither the latter is evident for the naïve beginner, if he reads your prices. The unclassified ones, which you relate to NWA 7034 cost around 10,000$/g on your pages and also the supposed NWA 2975-pairing are not different in price than the specimens sold by more professional collectors and dealers, who took
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[meteorite-list] preference question on scale cubes and a poll
I am getting a bunch more made and I have a question on the dot (.) after each number 1. do people want the dot or not? basically every custom cube I made the people did not want the dot. At that time I asked around and people said yes no dot on next batch would be nice. I removed the dot and now people are asking why I don't have the dot and want it the old way. second question and this one might raise controversy if on the B side I made a metric hash mark series would people want that or not? before you say yes or no also know that I have to put a tiny hole (with the current way of plating them)so that hole would be on the side with the hash marks. for an example of hash marks go to scaleobjects.com I am also finalizing my phot cube designs and if anyoen wants any last input let me know by email rexsca...@comcast.net Rex Scates (BCmarketplace.com) Scaleobjects.com (Photo Cubes and Scale Cubes used in Photography to show size) Almostforeverjewelry.com (Tungsten carbide jewelry, much of it designed by me at prices lower than anyone else, specializing in Precious Opal) DStarengines.com (Stirling engines and the like, all assembled, tested, unique, great prices) Meteorite kits and Fossils from the United States We sell at Newegg.com, Amazon.com, in person, and a few retail outlets __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] preference question on scale cubes and a poll
Without the dot. The letters represent the abbreviation of North, South, East, West, Top and Bottom, and most people know or can guess this without the dot or period after the letter. The hash marks detract from the aesthetic simplicity of a scale cube. Besides, I think printing hashmarks on a scale cube would necessitate oversizing the cube to be able to accommodate all delineations from 0mm to 10mm. Then the scalecube would not represent 1cm on each side. This would be confusing and harder to interpret. My 2¢ gary On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:38 PM, rexsca...@comcast.net wrote: I am getting a bunch more made and I have a question on the dot (.) after each number 1. do people want the dot or not? basically every custom cube I made the people did not want the dot. At that time I asked around and people said yes no dot on next batch would be nice. I removed the dot and now people are asking why I don't have the dot and want it the old way. second question and this one might raise controversy if on the B side I made a metric hash mark series would people want that or not? before you say yes or no also know that I have to put a tiny hole (with the current way of plating them)so that hole would be on the side with the hash marks. for an example of hash marks go to scaleobjects.com I am also finalizing my phot cube designs and if anyoen wants any last input let me know by email rexsca...@comcast.net Rex Scates (BCmarketplace.com) Scaleobjects.com (Photo Cubes and Scale Cubes used in Photography to show size) Almostforeverjewelry.com (Tungsten carbide jewelry, much of it designed by me at prices lower than anyone else, specializing in Precious Opal) DStarengines.com (Stirling engines and the like, all assembled, tested, unique, great prices) Meteorite kits and Fossils from the United States We sell at Newegg.com, Amazon.com, in person, and a few retail outlets __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI 96720 (808) 640-9161 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] preference question on scale cubes and a poll
Hi Rex, I have no preference on the dot, but I agree with Gary Fujihara about leaving the hash marks off. They do tend to get in the way (IMHO) and Gary is right about having an oversized cube to accommodate 10 mm marks. I would prefer to use a small metric ruler in closeup photos to get that type of detail. Regards, Ed - Original Message - From: rexsca...@comcast.net To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 10:38 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] preference question on scale cubes and a poll I am getting a bunch more made and I have a question on the dot (.) after each number 1. do people want the dot or not? basically every custom cube I made the people did not want the dot. At that time I asked around and people said yes no dot on next batch would be nice. I removed the dot and now people are asking why I don't have the dot and want it the old way. second question and this one might raise controversy if on the B side I made a metric hash mark series would people want that or not? before you say yes or no also know that I have to put a tiny hole (with the current way of plating them)so that hole would be on the side with the hash marks. for an example of hash marks go to scaleobjects.com I am also finalizing my phot cube designs and if anyoen wants any last input let me know by email rexsca...@comcast.net Rex Scates (BCmarketplace.com) Scaleobjects.com (Photo Cubes and Scale Cubes used in Photography to show size) Almostforeverjewelry.com (Tungsten carbide jewelry, much of it designed by me at prices lower than anyone else, specializing in Precious Opal) DStarengines.com (Stirling engines and the like, all assembled, tested, unique, great prices) Meteorite kits and Fossils from the United States We sell at Newegg.com, Amazon.com, in person, and a few retail outlets __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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