[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Whitecourt Contributed by: Simon de Boer http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fireball near Sydney
Fireball seen from Sydney, Australia this evening: https://twitter.com/sydneyobs/status/345094820823441408 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
It has been sitting in Tucson for years. Oriented nose cone. Now in China. Met bulletin is decades behind. Seymchan now at least 15 tons. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Pict p...@pict.co.uk wrote: Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
And that is the fundamental issue with the list ... With some meteorites that were found/fell as one mass, the TKW is more or less accurate. With others that were not found/fell as one mass, the numbers can be WAY off as is the case for Seymchan. The total recovered weight can be much higher than what is reported in the MetBull. Mendy Ouzillou From: Pict p...@pict.co.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
The MetBull can be revised or updated with a write-up submitted to the NomCom, but it requires an individual to take the time to actually do that work. For example, I revised NWA 7034 to Martian Basaltic Breccia after my original Achondrite-ung, a year earlier. As far as revising TKW in the MetBull, a recent example is NWA 6963, which went from 83 g in the original write-up to now 8 kg. Carl * Carl B. Agee Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences MSC03 2050 University of New Mexico Albuquerque NM 87131-1126 Tel: (505) 750-7172 Fax: (505) 277-3577 Email: a...@unm.edu http://meteorite.unm.edu/people/carl_agee/ On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: And that is the fundamental issue with the list ... With some meteorites that were found/fell as one mass, the TKW is more or less accurate. With others that were not found/fell as one mass, the numbers can be WAY off as is the case for Seymchan. The total recovered weight can be much higher than what is reported in the MetBull. Mendy Ouzillou From: Pict p...@pict.co.uk To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
I wish somebody would take the time to actually and truthfully certify the weight on Kalahari 009. Weighing it on a bathroom scale and rounding it off is disrespectful to such a piece! It may be the world's heaviest but we will never know until somebody does the right thing and weighs it properly. Even if its weighs in the neighborhood of what is being claimed, but not proven, it may not be the worlds largest due to density. NWA 5000 is less dense and displaces more area per cubic centimeter therefor may be physically larger. Until we get an accurate weight, it cannot claim any heavyweight title. Come on, a rock from the Moon deserves better than this! It is like having a heavy weight boxer going for a title, failing to weigh in before a bought. It would be nice if its caretaker(s) were not so secretive and would at least disclose its dimensions if they cannot provide an accurate weight. Adam From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:20 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Blog Posts - Meteorite Hall of Fame, Meteorite Folklore, more.
Hi Listees, I have added some new entries to my meteorite blog. I put the word new in quotes, because one of these articles is an older but unpublished work of mine (the Meteorite Hall of Fame and Shame). The new articles are denoted with an asterisk (*). I hope it is not presumptuous of me to assemble a Hall of Fame, and the selection of the entries may seem arbitrary, because it largely is. I wrote this article back in late 2010 and I just never posted or published it anywhere until now. Comments to the articles are welcome, feel free to use the comment form at the bottom of each entry. About Meteorites Meteorite Collecting Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog (*) Meteorite Hall of Fame Shame - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/233-meteorite-hall-of-fame-and-shame (*) Meteorites in Folklore Myth - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/232-meteorites-in-folklore-myth (*) Out of a Clear Blue Sky - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/228-out-of-a-clear-blue-sky Meteorites, Ambassadors from Space - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/207-meteorites-ambassadors-from-space Meteorite Glossary (for Beginners) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/208-meteorite-glossary The Perils of Type Collecting, A Guide - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/210-the-perils-of-meteorite-type-collecting-a-guide The Saharan Gold Rush of Meteorites - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/211-the-saharan-gold-rush-of-meteorites Recent Meteorite Falls (Statistics Analysis) - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/212-recent-meteorite-falls Cutting Meteorites for Beginners - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog/213-cutting-meteorites-for-beginners Blog RSS feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog.atom Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Adam: I entirely agree, but on the basis of this photo http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/kalahari008.htm and assuming a density of 2.6 g/cm^3, I'd say that rock was at least 13 kg. Randy At 01:32 PM 2013-06-13 Thursday, you wrote: I wish somebody would take the time to actually and truthfully certify the weight on Kalahari 009. Weighing it on a bathroom scale and rounding it off is disrespectful to such a piece! It may be the world's heaviest but we will never know until somebody does the right thing and weighs it properly. Even if its weighs in the neighborhood of what is being claimed, but not proven, it may not be the worlds largest due to density. NWA 5000 is less dense and displaces more area per cubic centimeter therefor may be physically larger. Until we get an accurate weight, it cannot claim any heavyweight title. Come on, a rock from the Moon deserves better than this! It is like having a heavy weight boxer going for a title, failing to weigh in before a bought. It would be nice if its caretaker(s) were not so secretive and would at least disclose its dimensions if they cannot provide an accurate weight. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Something looks funny about the scale cube as well. Maybe it is because the image is so blurry. When I see fuzzy images of meteorites, or anything else for that matter, on eBay or a website, I stay away. I wonder if the cube is calibrated or somebody just threw in a sugar cube after taking a picture of it with a cheap camera and weighing it on a bathroom scale. It would be great if the curator(s) would show some proper respect for possibly the world's largest moon rock! Adam - Original Message - From: Randy Korotev koro...@wustl.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type Adam: I entirely agree, but on the basis of this photo http://meteorites.wustl.edu/lunar/stones/kalahari008.htm and assuming a density of 2.6 g/cm^3, I'd say that rock was at least 13 kg. Randy At 01:32 PM 2013-06-13 Thursday, you wrote: I wish somebody would take the time to actually and truthfully certify the weight on Kalahari 009. Weighing it on a bathroom scale and rounding it off is disrespectful to such a piece! It may be the world's heaviest but we will never know until somebody does the right thing and weighs it properly. Even if its weighs in the neighborhood of what is being claimed, but not proven, it may not be the worlds largest due to density. NWA 5000 is less dense and displaces more area per cubic centimeter therefor may be physically larger. Until we get an accurate weight, it cannot claim any heavyweight title. Come on, a rock from the Moon deserves better than this! It is like having a heavy weight boxer going for a title, failing to weigh in before a bought. It would be nice if its caretaker(s) were not so secretive and would at least disclose its dimensions if they cannot provide an accurate weight. Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Just to back up what Carl said, MetBull is not decades behind... it may be decades out of date though. MetBull does not attempt to log new discoveries of additional pieces of meteorites, so it is not behind in this task. It is, in general, a one-time publication with a date on it, like a newspaper article. If significant new information is submitted, a new article or supplemental information may be published. But this is a passive activity by the editor, not an active pursuit. Jeff On 6/13/2013 1:49 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: It has been sitting in Tucson for years. Oriented nose cone. Now in China. Met bulletin is decades behind. Seymchan now at least 15 tons. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Pict p...@pict.co.uk wrote: Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
Yes But some major new finds need to be updated. Springwater for example, seymchan, etc. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com wrote: Just to back up what Carl said, MetBull is not decades behind... it may be decades out of date though. MetBull does not attempt to log new discoveries of additional pieces of meteorites, so it is not behind in this task. It is, in general, a one-time publication with a date on it, like a newspaper article. If significant new information is submitted, a new article or supplemental information may be published. But this is a passive activity by the editor, not an active pursuit. Jeff On 6/13/2013 1:49 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: It has been sitting in Tucson for years. Oriented nose cone. Now in China. Met bulletin is decades behind. Seymchan now at least 15 tons. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Pict p...@pict.co.uk wrote: Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Sale Ad-Rare iron meteorites Monnig Collection
Hi List, I have just put up some unique iron meteorite slices for sale on my page. These meteorites came from the Oscar Monnig collection. This a rare opportunity to add a truly unique piece to your collection. Thanks, Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Meteorite_Sale_page_nevadameteorites.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type
As a collector and in the interest of science, I would certainly like to have the TKW actively updated based on validated finds. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World's Largest Meteorites by Type Yes But some major new finds need to be updated. Springwater for example, seymchan, etc. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com wrote: Just to back up what Carl said, MetBull is not decades behind... it may be decades out of date though. MetBull does not attempt to log new discoveries of additional pieces of meteorites, so it is not behind in this task. It is, in general, a one-time publication with a date on it, like a newspaper article. If significant new information is submitted, a new article or supplemental information may be published. But this is a passive activity by the editor, not an active pursuit. Jeff On 6/13/2013 1:49 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: It has been sitting in Tucson for years. Oriented nose cone. Now in China. Met bulletin is decades behind. Seymchan now at least 15 tons. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Pict p...@pict.co.uk wrote: Where is the 3 tonne Seymchan? Met Bull has mass at 323kg by the way. Regards, John On 13/06/2013 12:22, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Seymchan much larger Pallasite one piece is 3 metric tons alone. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 10:20 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, I am putting together a list of the largest known meteorites by type. Here is what the list looks like so far. Can anyone spot any errors or suggest any other large specimens of different types? Largest Meteorites : Largest carbonaceous CM1 - Moapa Valley - 691 g Largest iron - Hoba - 60 MT Largest chondrite - Jilin - 4 MT Largest aubrite - Norton County - 1.1 MT Largest Martian meteorite - Zagami - 18 kg Largest Lunar meteorite - NWA 5000 / Kalahari 009 - 11.53 kg / 13.5 kg Largest pallasite - Fukang - 1 MT (3.5 MT?) Largest angrite - D'Orbigny - 16.5 kg Largest brachinite - NWA 4882 - 2.89 kg Largest mesosiderite - Bondoc? - 888.6 kg Largest CH - Acfer 366 - 1456 g Largest CR6/Metachondrite - Tafassasset - 30+ kg Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
A yes, we'll known scammer. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, B b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: John (Bryan) Scarborough. . Can't recall his previous Ebay tag. I'll give him credit.. its a very nice slice. But then again, my very fresh unclassified slice sure looked a lot like his Amgala, shape and all, and it too was very nice looking :) Me myself, couldnt have a piece in my main collection which was questionable. Thus why I have a separate partition for my nice but not sure about specimens. Brandon D. Original message From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
To answer Bill and Mike, That smaller slice looks good for Ash Creek to me, and the larger (supposed Mifflin) looks about right to me as well. Yes, they're similar, but...a little different. The original Lonestar Meteorites fellow was somewhat obscure, definitely on the up-and-up. But, John Bryan Scarborough switched his ebay handle to a similar name some months ago. Documented misrepresented material has included Deport, Ash Creek, Mifflin, and Oum Dreyga. Off-looking specimens that were never analytically verified have included several others. Even experienced, well-regarded dealers make mistakes from time to time, but at some point it's just a bit much... Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
The specimen he offered as Ash Creek is obvoiusly not the same material as the slice he offered as Mifflin. I don't care if he's a scammer, adled or just mixed up. If you're going to buy you'd best do your due diligence. That's how bargains are found and as much as I do respect the integrity of the majors, I still believe in good deals lost in the shuffle. From: m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:59:53 -0700 To: b1dunov...@aol.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay A yes, we'll known scammer. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, B b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: John (Bryan) Scarborough. . Can't recall his previous Ebay tag. I'll give him credit.. its a very nice slice. But then again, my very fresh unclassified slice sure looked a lot like his Amgala, shape and all, and it too was very nice looking :) Me myself, couldnt have a piece in my main collection which was questionable. Thus why I have a separate partition for my nice but not sure about specimens. Brandon D. Original message From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody
