[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Mars Attacks! Contributed by: Mauro Ianeselli http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Beni M'Hira, la météorite oubliée / Beni M'Hira, the Forgotten Meteorite
Hello Bernd and all meteorite enthusiasts, thanks a lot Bernd for your kind comment on our book, we appreciate that. I just want to add that an -- english -- version is going to be available in the next days. We'll make an annoucement on the Meteorite List. Meanwhile, if you speak french and want to order the french version, here is the link : http://www.beni-mhira.com/shop/booklet/ And if you wish some nice Beni M'hira specimens, there are many pieces on our website http://www.beni-mhira.com Pierre-Marie Pelé Meteor-Center Météorites : achat - vente - expertise - expéditions - recherche http://www.meteor-center.com IMCA 3360 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Hi Mike and all, Yes, I agree with you, but the fake-meteorite-boom started since 2010 and become worse and worse recently. Not only some cheaters selling fake meteorites, but also some reputable Chinese collectors use their purchased NWAs to claim they were found in Chinese desert or Gobi areas in order to attack more media attention and sell more money. Nowadays, in China, all kinds of fake-meteorite-events will have a profit chain on the backside, and single honest person can hardly beat with numerous profit chains. If you pointed out a mendacity, blames or even rumors will be flooded to you soonly on the internet. In this condition, most Chinese scientists and honest collectors choose to be quiet when faced with a fake-meteorite-event. Now, it became a trend, official medias will be likely to report fake-meteorite-events, as those fake events normally will use the exaggerative advocation and will attrack more click-rates for the medias, such as someone possess a tons weight meteorite (actually the stone is a slag) and have been authenticated by an expert from Beijing Plenatrium which worth of 4 times price of the equal weight gold... Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: rare iron Meteorites - Squaw Creek, Georgetown, Deport and so much more..
Dear List Members, tomorrow ending on ebay some rare and perfect etched iron meteorites. Squaw Creek, Bur-Abor, Georgetown, Deport, Laguna Manantiales, Gan Gan, Mont Dieu, NWA 6164, NWA 4708, NWA 859 Taza, Mundrabilla and Agoudal. Also some interesting unclassified nice quality and crusted NWA Meteorites and a stunning oriented heat shield. All auctions start by $1.99 and the prices are sill very very low. All my offers you can find here: http://stores.ebay.com/Mirko-Graul-Meteorite/_i.html?rt=nc_sid=18192829_sticky=1_trksid=p4634.c0.m14_sop=1_sc=1 Best regards Mirko Mirko Graul Meteorite Quittenring.4 16321 Bernau GERMANY Phone: 0049-1724105015 E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de Member of The Meteoritical Society (International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) IMCA-Member: 2113 (International Meteorite Collectors Association) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Dear Bryan and list members, taking into account what you said, Bryan, I'm curious to see whether the alleged fall in Yuncheng, Shanxi on June 15 (mentioned earlier on this list) will be officially confirmed or will turn out to be a 'fake-meteorite-event' or 'purchased-NWA-becomes-fresh-fall-incident' as well. http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CNtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.xinhuanet.com%2Ftech%2F2013-07%2F18%2Fc_125026612.htm TV report (CCTV, 19 July) : http://video.chinanews.com/flv/2012/130719lxy17.mp4 Regards Martin Von: Bofang Li meteoritegar...@gmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite! Datum: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:58:43 +0200 Hi Mike and all, Yes, I agree with you, but the fake-meteorite-boom started since 2010 and become worse and worse recently. Not only some cheaters selling fake meteorites, but also some reputable Chinese collectors use their purchased NWAs to claim they were found in Chinese desert or Gobi areas in order to attack more media attention and sell more money. Nowadays, in China, all kinds of fake-meteorite-events will have a profit chain on the backside, and single honest person can hardly beat with numerous profit chains. If you pointed out a mendacity, blames or even rumors will be flooded to you soonly on the internet. In this condition, most Chinese scientists and honest collectors choose to be quiet when faced with a fake-meteorite-event. Now, it became a trend, official medias will be likely to report fake-meteorite-events, as those fake events normally will use the exaggerative advocation and will attrack more click-rates for the medias, such as someone possess a tons weight meteorite (actually the stone is a slag) and have been authenticated by an expert from Beijing Plenatrium which worth of 4 times price of the equal weight gold... Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Hi Martin and all, Personally, I think the fall happened on June 15, Yuncheng city, Shanxi Province should be a real one. My reasons are as the following: 1, the name of the witness (finder), the name of the village (including district name, city name) were all enlightened to the public. In addition, the witness narrated to the media the process from roaring noise until they saw something hit the corn field and dug it out; 2, From the photos, the meteorite is a very fresh one, with some earth scratches on the surface. Generally, it is looked like a fresh fall, and they also dug the small earth crater out and brought the crater back to the planetarium together with the meteorite; 3, the fall happened on June 15, but the first news appeared about a month later, and that period is quite usual. From my personal experience, meteorite falls happened in China will at least take 3 days period from the falling time until the news appeared on the internet. The larger the falling effect, the faster the news appear. For example, 2012 Xining fall took 3 days to be reported on the news, which is quite fast, as it is a meteorite shower; 2008 Zunhua fall took 4 days to be reported on the news, as it was crashed into a house; 2010 Huaxi fall never appeared on the news, as it was fallen in a small yard of a farmer's and only affected one family. On the other hand, the news of Xinjiang crater this time appeared on the internet news within 24 hours after the so called fallen (or explosion), and that time period is quite unbelievable for a small vallige located in the west-most border of the country. Besides, the photo of the crater also appeared together with the news on the internet within 24 hours, but it looked too old to be a fresh crashed crater. Regards! Bryan MetSoc member IMCA #1371 http://www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD-Ebay auctions, KILO Estacado, Oriented Chelyabinsk, more!
Some nice pieces ending today: 7493 Lunar breccia http://k2b-bulk.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ListingConsolecurrentPage=LCActive Big Seymchan slice http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=251318361912ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT 100g Oriented Chelyabinsk http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=251318364657ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT KILO Estacado, TX http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=221266974430ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT many many more... See them all here: http://k2b-bulk.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ListingConsolecurrentPage=LCActive Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Just sharing pictures of a nice one !
Hello, I just wouldlike to share pictures of a Beni M'Hira found by Marie, the MM11 specimen... Oriented, very few flowlines, but what a crust ! Enjoy this 46.23g beauty : http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-01.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-02.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-03.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-04.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-05.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-06.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-07.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-08.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-09.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-10.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-11.JPG Fabien and Marie Fabien Kuntz Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences) Animation scientifique et technique WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017) www.wwmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Just sharing pictures of a nice one !
Congratulations Marie on finding a very beautiful stone. Mendy Ouzillou On Aug 17, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Fabien Kuntz wwmeteori...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I just wouldlike to share pictures of a Beni M'Hira found by Marie, the MM11 specimen... Oriented, very few flowlines, but what a crust ! Enjoy this 46.23g beauty : http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-01.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-02.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-03.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-04.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-05.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-06.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-07.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-08.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-09.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-10.JPG http://wwmeteorites.com/Ventes/BeniMM11/Beni-MM11-11.JPG Fabien and Marie Fabien Kuntz Météorites (ventes, expertise, conférences) Animation scientifique et technique WWMETEORITES (Siret : 511 850 612 00017) www.wwmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Papers on astro-impact 12.8kya ending Clovis culture
There is a site: The Cosmic Tusk - Abrupt climate change induced by comets and asteroids during human history: http://cosmictusk.com which has some quotes from and discussion: http://cosmictusk.com/mahaney-new-evidence-from-a-black-mat-site-in-the-northern-andes-supporting-a-cosmic-impact-12800-years-ago/ of a recent paper: New Evidence from a Black Mat Site in the Northern Andes Supporting a Cosmic Impact 12,800 Years Ago William C. Mahaney, Leslie Keiser, Dave Krinsley, Volli Kalm, Roelf Beukens, and Allen West The Journal of Geology Vol. 121, No. 4 (July 2013), pp. 309-325 http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/670652 (Behind paywall.) Abstract: Previous work has ascribed a cosmic impact origin to black, high-temperature, carbon-encrusted beds (2–3 cm thick), associated with the Younger Dryas readvance of ice at 12.8 ka during the Late Glacial in the northern Andes of Venezuela. The evidence for this includes carbon spherules, aluminosilicate melt rocks, melted coatings of glass-like amorphous carbon, and Fe-Mn on sands and clasts derived from local felsic gneiss and granite. These sediments have been subjected to renewed investigation using high-resolution scanning electron microscopy and energy-dispersive spectrometry, and new data show that spherules at site MUM7B exhibit unique morphologies and compositions. Molar oxide weight percentages prove the spherules are not volcanic and show little overlap with cosmic materials. Spherule microstructures display quench melting and, thus, could not have formed from slow geological authigenic, diagenetic, or metamorphic processes. Instead, geochemical values for the Venezuelan samples plot within the limits of impact-related materials, including tektites, ejecta, and impact spherules from a number of craters and strewnfields (cf. Chicxulub Crater, Chesapeake Bay Crater, Tunguska, Australasian tektite field, Lake Bosumtwi Crater, Ries Crater, and others). These results are identical to previously reported spherules from the Younger Dryas boundary layer (YDB) on three continents, North America, Europe, and Asia, and the most likely origin is from a cosmic impact/airburst 12.8 ka, as previously proposed. The MUM7B site is one of the two southernmost sites (Venezuela and Peru) in South America, thus extending the evidence supporting the YDB impact event into a new hemisphere on a new continent. A comment by Hermann Burchard includes some quotes from the article. Other comments concern how something resembling today's technologies and civilization might have developed (probably earlier, but I think perhaps later or maybe not at all) If we’ve gotten whacked hard enough to kill the mammoths, sabre-toothed tigers and Clovis man . . . A still more recent paper which cites this first one: Cosmogenic nuclide enhancement via deposition from long-period comets as a test of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis Andrew C. Overholt, Adrian L. Melott 2013-07-24 http://arxiv.org/abs/1307.6557 (Full text available.) Abstract [with my notes]: We explore the idea that detectable excursions in 26Al [a radioactive isotope of Aluminium with a half-life of 717,000 years] may arise from direct deposition by any bolide, and excursions in 14C and 10Be [radioactive isotopes of carbon and beryllium] abundances in the atmosphere may result from long-period comet impacts. This is very different from the usual processes of production by cosmic rays within Earths atmosphere. Long-period comets experience greatly increased cosmic ray flux beyond the protection of the suns magnetic field. We report the computed amount of 14C, 10Be, and 26Al present on long-period comets as a function of comet mass. We find that the amount of nuclide mass on large long-period comets entering the Earths atmosphere may be sufficient for creating anomalies in the records of 14C and 10Be from past impacts. In particular, the estimated mass of the proposed Younger Dryas comet is consistent with its having deposited sufficient isotopes to account for recorded 14C and 10Be increases at that time. The 26Al/10Be ratio is much larger in extraterrestrial objects than in the atmosphere, and so, we note that measuring this ratio in ice cores is a suitable definitive test for the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, even if the hypothetical bolide is not a long-period comet and/or did not contribute to the 14C and 10Be increases. The paper ends with a graph of Carbon 14 and Beryllium 10 levels in the period 14,500 to 9,500 years before present, derived from (C14) tree rings, coral and marine sediment and (B10) ice cores. There is a sharp jump around 12,900 years ago, close to the beginning of the Younger Dryas event. I am writing this to three mailing lists, one of
