[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-09-06 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Seymchan

Contributed by: Mathias Stricker

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - NWA 4522, L/LL3, Beautiful 80g. Endcut, Offers welcome!

2013-09-06 Thread Carsten Giessler

Dear List members,

i will now also consider offers for this nice piece!

Best greetings,

Carsten
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[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - New CM2 - JBILET WINSELWAN - slices and fragments !

2013-09-06 Thread Stalder Thomas
Dear list members,

More beautiful cut slices, end cuts and fragments of the very fresh and new 
JBILET WINSELWAN CM2 are available now ! 

Prepared and cut by spacejewels switzerland !

ENDING coming Sunday.

No reserve, low starting bid at USD 1.99 !

Please have a look if interested.

http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-Meteorites-and-more

Thanks  Happy bidding
Tom

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[meteorite-list] Ad - Collection Sale with Many Rare and Nice Pieces - Irons, Stones, Pallasites, Impactites

2013-09-06 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Hi Listees and Collectors,

Two things of interest this week :

1) I am offering an entire meteorite collection for sale.  This is a
diverse collection of stones, irons, and stony-irons from a wide
variety of localities.  See the list of specimens below.  I would like
to sell all of these in one shot to one collector or dealer.  If you
are interested in making an offer, please contact me off-list.

2) I have some micromounts from localities you rarely see - old
obscure finds, historical falls, and pieces with museum/institutional
provenance.  For micromount collectors looking to fill holes in their
collections, this is a great opportunity to do so without playing
footsy on eBay.

As always, for all purchases through my website, use coupon code
metlist at checkout for 20% off all specimens.  If the coupon code
or checkout acts up, contact me off-list.

COLLECTION SALE SPECIMENS - contact me offlist to make an offer.  All
reasonable offers will be considered.

Katol (1.87g part slice)
Camel Donga (whole stone, 6.6g)
Murchison (fresh interior frag, 814mg)
Libyan Desert Glass (premium sculpted individual, 35.6g)
Imilac (part slice, 2.32g)
Gebel Kamil (113g individual)
Sulagiri (13g part slice)
Varre Sai (1.99g partslice, crust patch
Whetstone Mountains (880mg part slice)
Breja (2.66g slice)
Sudbury (79g metallic ore slice)
NWA 6953 (4.36g polished endcut)
NWA 6925 (3.36g endcut)
Indochinite (teardrop w/flowlines, 25g)
Tulia(a) (7.6g part slice)
Chergach (2.15g 75% crusted stone)
Tamdakt (5.1g part slice)
Meteorite Super Trump card set
Franconia (4.78g part slice)
Meteorite Men Set - postcards and lunar NWA 482 dust card
Millbillillie (1.04g)
Henbury (7g individual)
Henbury (2.43g individual)
Sudbury (14g breccia nugget)


RARE MICROMOUNTS : (in no particular order)

Benthullen (L6, Germany, 1948) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/benthullen--rare-german-peat-bog-meteorite-museum-provenance-micromount

Soko-Banja (LL4, historic fall, Serbia 1877) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/soko-banja--rare-serbian-1877-historic-witnessed-fall-ll4-micromount

Savtschenskoje (LL4, historic fall, Ukraine, 1894) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/savtschenskoje--ukraine-1894-ll4-witnessed-fall-museum-provenance-micromount

Yurtuk (howardite, historic fall, Ukraine 1936) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/yurtuk--very-rare-howardite-1936-ukraine-witnessed-fall-micromount

Foster (H4, Texas 1975) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/foster--1975-h4-chondrite-texas-farm-find-micromount

Ybbsitz (H4, Austria 1977) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/ybbsitz--rare-and-obscure-austrian-h4-meteorite-find-micromount

Amherst (L6, Nebraska 1947) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/amherst--rare-and-obscure-1947-nebraska-farm-find-micromount

McCracken (H4/5, Kansas 1980) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/mccracken--rare-h45-farm-find-from-kansas-micromount

Arcadia (LL6, Nebraska 1937) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/arcadia--rare-1937-nebraska-ll6-meteorite-micromount

Happy Canyon (EL6/7, Texas 1971) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/happy-canyon-very-rare-el67-meteorite-find-from-texas-micromount

Kuznetzovo (L6, historic fall, Russia 1932) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/kuznetzovo-rare-1932-russian-witnessed-fall-institutional-provenance-micromount

Moss (CO3.6, hammer fall, Norway 2006) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/moss--rare-co36-norway-2006-witnessed-fall-micromount

Winona (Winonaite, TYPE FIND, Arizona 1928) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/winona-famous-type-fall-of-all-winonaites-found-in-indian-burial-cist-micromount

Wold Cottage (L6, historic fall, England 1795) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/wold-cottage--historic-1795-meteorite-with-museum-provenance-9mg-micro

Fisher (L6, historic fall, Minnesota 1894) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/fisher-1894-minnesota-witnessed-fall-shocked-l6-chondrite-micromount

Monroe (H4, historic fall, North Carolina 1849) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/monroe--1849-north-carolina-halloween-witnessed-fall-h4-micromount

Jbilet Winselwan (CM2, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/jbilet-winselwan--new-saharan-carbonaceous-cm2-meteorite-micromount

Korra Korrabes (H3, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/korra-korrabes--h3-meteorite-from-namibia-micromount

Muonionalusta (iron shale, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/muonionalusta--sweden-iron-meteorite-from-arctic-circle-shale-micromount

Wolf Creek (iron shale, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/wolf-creek--australian-iron-meteorite-iron-shale-micromount

Seymchan (pallasite, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/seymchan--russian-pallasite-meteorite-olivine-micromount

Huckitta (pallasite, micromount) -
http://www.galactic-stone.com/product/huckitta--ancient-australian-pallasite-shale-fragment-micromount

NWA 7824 (mesosiderite) -

[meteorite-list] AD: many NEW meteorites ending on sunday

2013-09-06 Thread Mirko Graul
Dear List Members,

on sunday ending 43 new listed meteorites on ebay.
Many large and small interesting unclassified NWA meteorites in good quality 
and some new classified type 3 chondrites and much more.
The prices are very very low at this moment or still without bid.
All auctions start by $1.99 and all offers without reserve price!

All ending auctions you can find here:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=231047858675pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item35cb8689f3_ssn=mirko66_sop=1


and all my store offers are here to find:

http://stores.ebay.com/Mirko-Graul-Meteorite


Best regards to all,

Mirko




Mirko Graul Meteorite 
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16321 Bernau 
GERMANY 

Phone: 0049-1724105015 
E-Mail: m_gr...@yahoo.de 
WEB: www.meteorite-mirko.de 

Member of The Meteoritical Society 
(International Society for Meteoritics and Planetery Science) 

IMCA-Member: 2113 
(International Meteorite Collectors Association) 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now, posted! Another spectacular video.

2013-09-06 Thread Marco Langbroek


Count Deiro wrote:


As they saywith all due respectto those of you with vastly more
experience than I in the subjectthese old eyes and the brain they are
attached to have digested the visual data, then thought out the technical
complexities involved in producing a series of multiple fakes while
estimating the cost in time and money that would be involved and finally,
pondered why anyone would spend that time and treasureand for what
possible purpose. Conclusion? The San Luis Potosi bolide and its history so
stunningly recorded are the real deal.


I humbly disagree.

There are multiple reasons why people would have faked this.

Over the past few years we have seen multitudes of fake UFO video's, fake videos 
of strange archaeological finds (e.g. giants a few years ago), fake 
surviving mammoth filmed in Siberia video's, fake Loch Ness videos, fake 
eagle snatches kid in the park videos, you name it. Nowadays, these kind of 
animations can be done with off the shelf software that is readily available.


Reasons to make such fake movies can be very diverse:

- People like to fool other people;
- Maybe someone wants to practise their CGI skills;
- Maybe someone made this as a practical exam assignment;
- Maybe someone created this as a proof of concept for potential customers;
- Maybe this is intended as a viral for an upcoming movie or game;
- Maybe this is made for an upcoming movie or game

... to name just a few options.

The 'Eagle snatches kid in the park video of a year ago for example, was an 
exam product created by university students.


The video's of this fireball that surfaced are too similar in composition and 
quality, and too 'neat' - with very smooth panning for example, rather than 
shakey panic.  As Rob mentioned, some are weird - why was the person capturing 
the fireball filming in the first place? In some video's, it appears the filmer 
is actually *waiting* for the fireball to appear. And on some of the video's, 
the fireball really looks CGI if you look carefully (in the train video for 
example, and the one where it disappears behind a hill). Then there are the 
other things that don't ad up as pointed out by Rob earlier.
To top it, all these video's appear out of nowhere on new YouTube accounts, or 
youtube accounts that collect dubious movies.


These video's therefore really do not answer to the pattern of casual 
eyewitnesses. Moreover, there shouldn't be just these video's: TV stations, 
Radio stations, police, observatories, they should have been flooded by 
eyewitness reports


Nowadays, you simply have to be suspicious. Too many people like to play with 
CGI and unlike 10 years ago, it is no longer the domain of professionals (nor 
very expensive). A 19-year-old on his parents loft can do it.


- Marco

-
Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek
Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)

e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl
http://www.dmsweb.org
http://www.marcolangbroek.nl
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[meteorite-list] San Luis Potosi hoax

2013-09-06 Thread Eric Christensen
Hi all,



I'll add my voice to the doubters: this is not a real event.  A rather 
rudimentary analysis of the videos show some obvious signs of fakery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=5F7ySYpB1RM

If after watching this video you are still convinced that this was a real 
event, then consider the source for the videos, especially the first one 
showing the putative bolide incidentally recorded while filming a train.  The 
YouTube user Estrella Verde originally posted this video.  Around the same 
time, this user also posted two other videos, one showing floating spheres 
above San Luis Potosi, and another showing earthquake lights or HAARP 
attacks, also filmed from a car while on the highway.  Both appear to be 
digitally manipulated.  Other videos that this user posted or commented on 
reference paranormal or UFO activity.

The parking lot video looks like someone applied the security camera filter 
in Photoshop.  Was that the only security camera in all of S.L.P, home to 1 
million people?  Also, where are the other 6-8 videos from the people holding 
up their cell phones in the plaza (video #5)?  Why are none of the 
videographers or surrounding people shouting in surprise?  There is a complete 
lack of corroborating evidence for an event of this magnitude outside these 5 
videos.  Where are the eyewitnesses, newspaper reports, sonic booms, or data 
from scientific sensor networks?  I checked English and Spanish language 
newspapers from central Mexico for the days around Aug 21, and came up 
completely empty...not a peep until the first video appeared on Aug. 23.  
Compare this to Chelyabinsk, when there were dozens of videos online within 
hours of the event.

Add this to the already strong evidence presented by Rob Matson and Marco 
Langbroek, and I think there's really no room left for doubt.  This is not even 
a meteorite hoax.  It's a UFO hoax.

Regards,

Eric Christensen
Principal Investigator
Catalina Sky Survey
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[meteorite-list] AD

2013-09-06 Thread Aras Jonikas
Hi Everyone-

I have several auctions ending this weekend, including a slice of my new 
Unbrecciated Eucrite with GREAT shock veins. Please take a peek at them here:

http://tinyurl.com/AJmetcltrEBAY

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME WITH OFFERS or trades. More slices of the NWA 8003 
here: 

http://tinyurl.com/AJmetcltrNWA8003

Thanks,
Aras Jonikas
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[meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,

I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been suggested it the 
largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it, I have 
tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass. Lastly, 
its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone at the 
bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to the price 
of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/
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[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: September 2-6, 2013

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
September 2-6, 2013

o Proctor Crater Dunes (02 September 2013)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20130902a

o Nanedi Valles (03 September 2013)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20130903a

o Tinto and Palos (04 September 2013)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20130904a

o Dunes (05 September 2013)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20130905a

o Proctor Crater Dunes (06 September 2013)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20130906a


All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
If the big Chelya stone at the bottom of Lake Chebarkul is indeed
there, and it's recovered, it probably won't effect the collector
market in any way.  It will likely end up in a Russian institution and
won't add to the amount of material on the private market, IMO.

Best regards,

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On 9/6/13, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello Listers,

 I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been suggested it
 the largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it,
 I have tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass.
 Lastly, its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone
 at the bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to
 the price of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
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[meteorite-list] NASA to Share the Universe with Instagram Users through Its Images

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Baalke


September 6, 2013

John Yembrick/Jason Townsend
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1584 / 202-358-0359
john.yembr...@nasa.gov  / jason.c.towns...@nasa.gov 
 
RELEASE 13-277
 
NASA to Share the Universe with Instagram Users through Its Images

NASA is launching an official Instagram profile that will take its fans on an  
out-of-this-world journey through images of Earth and beyond.

We're constantly looking to expand our social media portfolio to include  
tools that will best tell NASA's story of exploration and discovery, said  
NASA Press Secretary Lauren Worley. Instagram has a passionate following of  
users who are hungry for new and exciting photos. We believe we have some of  
the most engaging images on and off the planet -- and we can't wait to  
engage with Instagrammers.

Aeronautics, astrophysics, Earth science, human spaceflight and more, the  
NASA account will provide a comprehensive view of the agency by sharing new  
and historic images and videos.

The first NASA posts will highlight the scheduled launch of the agency's  
Lunar Atmosphere and Dust Environment Explorer (LADEE) at 11:27 p.m. EDT  
Friday, from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on Wallops Island, Va.

LADEE is a robotic research mission that will orbit the moon to gather  
detailed information about the structure and composition of the thin lunar  
atmosphere and determine whether dust is being lofted into the lunar sky.  
Using Instagram, NASA will post historic moon images and real-time photos  
from the launch complex before and during Friday's scheduled liftoff.

To follow NASA's new Instagram account, visit:

http://instagram.com/nasa 

Instagram complements NASA's strong social media presence on Twitter,  
Facebook, Google+, YouTube, Flickr, Foursquare, Reddit and other sites. All  
are aimed at engaging and inspiring the public with NASA's unique content.  
The agency's primary Twitter account, @NASA, has almost 5 million followers  
-- more than any other federal agency. NASA's innovative use of social media  
is recognized as one of the best in federal government.

Along with the new official NASA account, the agency's Goddard Spaceflight  
Center and Ames Research Center also have profiles on Instagram. To follow,  
visit:

http://instagram.com/nasagoddard 

and

http://instagram.com/nasaames 

For a comprehensive list of NASA social media websites, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/connect 

To learn more about NASA's LADEE mission, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/ladee 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now, posted! Another spectacular video.

2013-09-06 Thread wahlperry
Hi Marko and list
 I would trust Rob Matson on the video. I would say It is 100% fake. : )

Sonny 

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 6, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Marco Langbroek marco.langbr...@online.nl wrote:

 
 Count Deiro wrote:
 
 As they saywith all due respectto those of you with vastly more
 experience than I in the subjectthese old eyes and the brain they are
 attached to have digested the visual data, then thought out the technical
 complexities involved in producing a series of multiple fakes while
 estimating the cost in time and money that would be involved and finally,
 pondered why anyone would spend that time and treasureand for what
 possible purpose. Conclusion? The San Luis Potosi bolide and its history so
 stunningly recorded are the real deal.
 
 I humbly disagree.
 
 There are multiple reasons why people would have faked this.
 
 Over the past few years we have seen multitudes of fake UFO video's, fake 
 videos of strange archaeological finds (e.g. giants a few years ago), 
 fake surviving mammoth filmed in Siberia video's, fake Loch Ness videos, 
 fake eagle snatches kid in the park videos, you name it. Nowadays, these 
 kind of animations can be done with off the shelf software that is readily 
 available.
 
 Reasons to make such fake movies can be very diverse:
 
 - People like to fool other people;
 - Maybe someone wants to practise their CGI skills;
 - Maybe someone made this as a practical exam assignment;
 - Maybe someone created this as a proof of concept for potential customers;
 - Maybe this is intended as a viral for an upcoming movie or game;
 - Maybe this is made for an upcoming movie or game
 
 ... to name just a few options.
 
 The 'Eagle snatches kid in the park video of a year ago for example, was an 
 exam product created by university students.
 
 The video's of this fireball that surfaced are too similar in composition and 
 quality, and too 'neat' - with very smooth panning for example, rather than 
 shakey panic.  As Rob mentioned, some are weird - why was the person 
 capturing the fireball filming in the first place? In some video's, it 
 appears the filmer is actually *waiting* for the fireball to appear. And on 
 some of the video's, the fireball really looks CGI if you look carefully 
 (in the train video for example, and the one where it disappears behind a 
 hill). Then there are the other things that don't ad up as pointed out by Rob 
 earlier.
 To top it, all these video's appear out of nowhere on new YouTube accounts, 
 or youtube accounts that collect dubious movies.
 
 These video's therefore really do not answer to the pattern of casual 
 eyewitnesses. Moreover, there shouldn't be just these video's: TV stations, 
 Radio stations, police, observatories, they should have been flooded by 
 eyewitness reports
 
 Nowadays, you simply have to be suspicious. Too many people like to play with 
 CGI and unlike 10 years ago, it is no longer the domain of professionals (nor 
 very expensive). A 19-year-old on his parents loft can do it.
 
 - Marco
 
 -
 Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek
 Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)
 
 e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl
 http://www.dmsweb.org
 http://www.marcolangbroek.nl
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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Anne Black

Hello Shawn and List,

Since the finder of that 3.4 kg Chelyabinsk is the one who sent the 
picture to me and since he still wants to sell it, I am sure he won't 
mind if I publish the picture again. And here it is:

http://www.impactika.com/CH-3400.jpg

And BTW I have the second largest:  3070kg.

As for the one at the bottom of the lake, after that many months in the 
water, I really wonder what it will look like.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:54 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite 
Found - Is there a photo?



Hello Listers,

I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been 
suggested it the
largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it, 
I have
tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass. 
Lastly,
its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone at 
the
bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to 
the price

of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/
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[meteorite-list] Planetary Data System Releases MESSENGER Data from Fourth Mercury Solar Day

2013-09-06 Thread Ron Baalke

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=243

MESSENGER Mission News
September 6, 2013

Planetary Data System Releases MESSENGER Data from Fourth Mercury Solar Day

Data collected during MESSENGER's 19th through 24th month in orbit
around Mercury were released to the public today by the Planetary Data
System (PDS), an organization that archives and distributes all of
NASA's planetary mission data. With this release, data are now available
to the public through the fourth full Mercury solar day of MESSENGER
orbital operations.

This 10th delivery to PDS makes available the formatted raw and
calibrated data for MESSENGER's science instruments and the radio
science investigation. SPICE data from MESSENGER's 2004 launch through
the period of this release are also included.

The availability of the new data comes on the heels of some highly
anticipated upgrades to the MESSENGER mission's ACT-REACT-QuickMap
software developed by Applied Coherent Technology Corporation. The
software package allows users to examine global mosaics of Mercury
constructed with high-resolution images from this and previous PDS
deliveries. The Mercury Laser Altimeter (MLA) northern-hemisphere
topographic map is now available at a higher resolution.

Topography is important for understanding the volcanic and tectonic
history of Mercury and, owing to fortunate geometry, the polar thermal
environment and the emplacement of volatile ices as well, explains MLA
Instrument Scientist Gregory Neumann, of the NASA Goddard Space Flight
Center. We have sharpened the picture of the north polar region
considerably. The laser can corroborate the exciting results of the
imaging campaign and see into the shadows. But we are still wrestling
with the shape of Mercury, which is unusual among slowly rotating
terrestrial bodies. These updates to the slowly accumulating topographic
map will lead to further collaborations with other instrument teams and
should reveal new surprises.

QuickMap now also provides a complete image mosaic, new elevation
profiling and interactive three-dimensional viewing tools, and tools for
viewing spectra from the Mercury Atmospheric and Surface Composition
Spectrometer (MASCS) and the Mercury Dual Imaging System (MDIS).

QuickMap's spectra retriever now allows users to find on the surface an
individual footprint of the MASCS instrument, explains MASCS Instrument
Scientist Noam Izenberg of the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics
Laboratory. Each of these footprints varies in size and shape and
contains an individual spectrum of the light reflected off the surface
at wavelengths from 300 to 1,450 nanometers. The differences between
these spectra from one place to another help to reveal differences in
the composition of surface material on Mercury.

Brian Grigsby, the coordinator of MESSENGER's Student Planetary
Investigator Program and science department chair at Shasta High School
in Redding, California, says that the enhancements to QuickMap will
allow students to gain a much deeper understanding of the surface
morphology, geology, and planetary evolution of Mercury and to explore
STEM-related career fields than they would not normally be able to do
through conventional methods.

The enhancements also can help the public acquire a broader view of
surface features on Mercury from the topography data (to examine
craters, hills, and valleys), and even 'colorized' views that can
enhance certain features that aren't usually evident from grey-scale
views of the surface, Grigsby says. The new data will provide a much
richer experience not only for students studying Mercury, but for the
public as well.

QuickMap can be accessed via links on the MESSENGER websites at
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/ and http://www.nasa.gov/messenger. The MDIS
mosaics can be downloaded from
http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/the_mission/mosaics.html/.

The data for this release are available online at
http://pds.nasa.gov/subscription_service/SS-20130906.html, and all of
the MESSENGER data archived at the PDS are available at
http://pds.nasa.gov. The team will deliver the next mission data set to
PDS in March 2014.

MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and
Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet
Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet 
and entered orbit about Mercury on March 17, 2011 (March 18, 2011 UTC), 
to begin a yearlong study of its target planet. MESSENGER's extended
mission began on March 18, 2012, and ended one year later. A possible
second extended mission is currently under evaluation by NASA. Dr. Sean
C. Solomon, the Director of Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth
Observatory, leads the mission as Principal Investigator. The Johns 
Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates the 
MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now, posted! Another spectacular video.

2013-09-06 Thread Jodie Reynolds
Science-by-Consensus is bleating-edge scientific method for sure.  It
saves a tremendous amount of time in that whole pesky investigation
and analysis stuff.

Classically, it brought us such important concepts as the geocentric
universe and the base element of fire, Phlogiston.

So yes, let's all vote instead of investigate.  Everyone's viewpoint is
equally important!

--- Jodie

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now, posted! Another spectacular video.

2013-09-06 Thread Count Deiro
Hi Listers,

Wellit sure is a pretty suckerthe guy, or gal that went to all that 
trouble is talented to say the least! I still enjoy looking at the videos. I'm 
just not ready yet to throw in the towel.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 

-Original Message-
From: Marco Langbroek marco.langbr...@online.nl
Sent: Sep 6, 2013 9:30 AM
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
countde...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now,   posted! 
 Another spectacular video.


Count Deiro wrote:

 As they saywith all due respectto those of you with vastly more
 experience than I in the subjectthese old eyes and the brain they are
 attached to have digested the visual data, then thought out the technical
 complexities involved in producing a series of multiple fakes while
 estimating the cost in time and money that would be involved and finally,
 pondered why anyone would spend that time and treasureand for what
 possible purpose. Conclusion? The San Luis Potosi bolide and its history so
 stunningly recorded are the real deal.

I humbly disagree.

There are multiple reasons why people would have faked this.

Over the past few years we have seen multitudes of fake UFO video's, fake 
videos 
of strange archaeological finds (e.g. giants a few years ago), fake 
surviving mammoth filmed in Siberia video's, fake Loch Ness videos, fake 
eagle snatches kid in the park videos, you name it. Nowadays, these kind of 
animations can be done with off the shelf software that is readily available.

Reasons to make such fake movies can be very diverse:

- People like to fool other people;
- Maybe someone wants to practise their CGI skills;
- Maybe someone made this as a practical exam assignment;
- Maybe someone created this as a proof of concept for potential customers;
- Maybe this is intended as a viral for an upcoming movie or game;
- Maybe this is made for an upcoming movie or game

... to name just a few options.

The 'Eagle snatches kid in the park video of a year ago for example, was an 
exam product created by university students.

The video's of this fireball that surfaced are too similar in composition and 
quality, and too 'neat' - with very smooth panning for example, rather than 
shakey panic.  As Rob mentioned, some are weird - why was the person capturing 
the fireball filming in the first place? In some video's, it appears the 
filmer 
is actually *waiting* for the fireball to appear. And on some of the video's, 
the fireball really looks CGI if you look carefully (in the train video for 
example, and the one where it disappears behind a hill). Then there are the 
other things that don't ad up as pointed out by Rob earlier.
To top it, all these video's appear out of nowhere on new YouTube accounts, or 
youtube accounts that collect dubious movies.

These video's therefore really do not answer to the pattern of casual 
eyewitnesses. Moreover, there shouldn't be just these video's: TV stations, 
Radio stations, police, observatories, they should have been flooded by 
eyewitness reports

Nowadays, you simply have to be suspicious. Too many people like to play with 
CGI and unlike 10 years ago, it is no longer the domain of professionals (nor 
very expensive). A 19-year-old on his parents loft can do it.

- Marco

-
Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek
Dutch Meteor Society (DMS)

e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl
http://www.dmsweb.org
http://www.marcolangbroek.nl
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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Anne and Lister

That's a nice piece, it looks like it was recovered a few ... few days or 
months after the fall. Hows much is that bad boy going for?

As for the big hunk of rock at the bottom of  Chebarkul Lake, I do to wonder 
how much will be salvageable and worthy for science and if science can learn 
how water can deteriate meteorites in water? I also wonder if anyone from the 
list for fun has taken a NWA XXX stone and dropped it in water and watched what 
happened to the stone over time?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633 
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/



- Original Message -
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite 
Found - Is there a photo?

Hello Shawn and List,

Since the finder of that 3.4 kg Chelyabinsk is the one who sent the 
picture to me and since he still wants to sell it, I am sure he won't 
mind if I publish the picture again. And here it is:
http://www.impactika.com/CH-3400.jpg

And BTW I have the second largest:  3070kg.

As for the one at the bottom of the lake, after that many months in the 
water, I really wonder what it will look like.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:54 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite 
Found - Is there a photo?


Hello Listers,

I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been 
suggested it the
largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it, 
I have
tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass. 
Lastly,
its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone at 
the
bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to 
the price
of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: Video 5 of SLP, MX Bolide now, posted! Another spectacular video.

2013-09-06 Thread Jim Wooddell

I am real curious...

I just did some quick looks (SWAG) at things...mainly the shadows and 
the sun position.  I guessed roughly (close enough) at N022 x W110 at 
roughly 12 noon and found the sun to be about 75 degrees altitude.  I 
then looked at it at about 5 pm for about a 22 degree altitude.   So, 
how do you guys that say this is real explain this difference in the 
video???
I honestly might not be very closebut that is a lot of difference in 
angle.


Kind Regards,

Jim Wooddell




On 9/6/2013 2:41 PM, Jodie Reynolds wrote:

Science-by-Consensus is bleating-edge scientific method for sure.  It
saves a tremendous amount of time in that whole pesky investigation
and analysis stuff.

Classically, it brought us such important concepts as the geocentric
universe and the base element of fire, Phlogiston.

So yes, let's all vote instead of investigate.  Everyone's viewpoint is
equally important!

--- Jodie

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--
Jim Wooddell
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http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/

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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Anne Black
Last I heard it had not been sold yet, and the owner/finder is quite 
eager to find a buyer.

So go ahead Shawn, make an offer!   ;-)


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Anne Black impact...@aol.com; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 4:20 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk 
Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?



Hello Anne and Lister

That's a nice piece, it looks like it was recovered a few ... few days 
or months

after the fall. Hows much is that bad boy going for?

As for the big hunk of rock at the bottom of  Chebarkul Lake, I do to 
wonder how
much will be salvageable and worthy for science and if science can 
learn how
water can deteriate meteorites in water? I also wonder if anyone from 
the list
for fun has taken a NWA XXX stone and dropped it in water and watched 
what

happened to the stone over time?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/



- Original Message -
From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk 
Meteorite

Found - Is there a photo?

Hello Shawn and List,

Since the finder of that 3.4 kg Chelyabinsk is the one who sent the
picture to me and since he still wants to sell it, I am sure he won't
mind if I publish the picture again. And here it is:
http://www.impactika.com/CH-3400.jpg

And BTW I have the second largest:  3070kg.

As for the one at the bottom of the lake, after that many months in the
water, I really wonder what it will look like.

Anne M. Black
http://www.impactika.com/
impact...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:54 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite
Found - Is there a photo?


Hello Listers,

I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been
suggested it the
largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it,
I have
tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass.
Lastly,
its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone at
the
bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to
the price
of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

Shawn Alan
IMCA 1633
ebay store
http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
http://meteoritefalls.com/
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[meteorite-list] Denver Show

2013-09-06 Thread Anne Black

Hello list-members,

I went up to the Holiday Inn (now Ramada) this afternoon, and the whole 
area is buzzing with activity; the tents are now all up, and trucks of 
all sizes are unloading piles of crates and boxes, and display cases, 
and people are running around moving all that.
Officially the show opens Wednesday, but by the look of it many dealers 
are planning on being ready for business before that. I know that Serge 
and Dima are already almost ready.
You might try it this weekend if you don't mind fighting truck drivers 
over parking places, and climbing over and around pallets.


As for me, I don't have a room there, I have a very nice house not all 
that far, and you can have a glass of wine or a cup of coffee while 
looking at meteorites in peace and quiet. Just call me or email me and 
tell me when you want to come.

Thanks.


Anne M. Black
www.IMPACTIKA.com
impact...@aol.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite Found - Is there a photo?

2013-09-06 Thread Jason Utas
Hello All,
The 3.4kg stone was recovered in March or April -- that's when the
first media photos surfaced.  Despite its early recovery, it does seem
to be somewhat weathered; Novato may help to explain that.  The
impact-melted portions of that meteorite showed significant rusting
after only 10 days in the field, while the rest of the meteorite
looked quite fresh.  I'd personally wait for bigger chunks; if a
several-hundred pounder did made it to the lake, it means that
fragments of all sizes in-between (and perhaps larger) should exist
(and will eventually be found?).  That said, the 3.07kg stone is a
beaut, and finding a nicer one would be tough regardless of what comes
to light.  We'll see...
Regards,
Jason


www.fallsandfinds.com


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello Anne and Lister

 That's a nice piece, it looks like it was recovered a few ... few days or 
 months after the fall. Hows much is that bad boy going for?

 As for the big hunk of rock at the bottom of  Chebarkul Lake, I do to wonder 
 how much will be salvageable and worthy for science and if science can learn 
 how water can deteriate meteorites in water? I also wonder if anyone from the 
 list for fun has taken a NWA XXX stone and dropped it in water and watched 
 what happened to the stone over time?

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/



 - Original Message -
 From: Anne Black impact...@aol.com
 To: photoph...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Cc:
 Sent: Friday, September 6, 2013 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite 
 Found - Is there a photo?

 Hello Shawn and List,

 Since the finder of that 3.4 kg Chelyabinsk is the one who sent the
 picture to me and since he still wants to sell it, I am sure he won't
 mind if I publish the picture again. And here it is:
 http://www.impactika.com/CH-3400.jpg

 And BTW I have the second largest:  3070kg.

 As for the one at the bottom of the lake, after that many months in the
 water, I really wonder what it will look like.

 Anne M. Black
 http://www.impactika.com/
 impact...@aol.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Shawn Alan photoph...@yahoo.com
 To: Meteorite Central meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:54 pm
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Largest Piece So Far of Chelyabinsk Meteorite
 Found - Is there a photo?


 Hello Listers,

 I saw that some one had found a 3.4kg Chelyabinsk and its been
 suggested it the
 largest one found so far? Is this true, and are there any photos of it,
 I have
 tried to look for some and cant find any images of the new main mass.
 Lastly,
 its been said by the Russian authorities that there is a 600kg stone at
 the
 bottom of Chebarkul Lake, if recovered, I wonder what that will do to
 the price
 of the Chelyabinsk in the open market?

 Shawn Alan
 IMCA 1633
 ebay store
 http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html
 http://meteoritefalls.com/
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