[meteorite-list] Posting Tucson Contact information

2014-01-20 Thread James Tobin
Hi Met List,
Just a reminder that if you want to post your contact information, suite 
number, phone, and such for the Tucson Gem and Mineral show you can do it at 
http://www.meteorite.com/submit-tucson-information/


And if you just want to see information about the Gem Show we have a site the 
can help you learn a lot at 
http://www.meteorite.com/tucson/


Hope to see many of you there in just a couple more weeks, have a great day. 
Jim Tobin
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[meteorite-list] Ad: North American meteorite - San Bernardino Wash (L5)

2014-01-20 Thread Robert Verish
For those collectors with an interest in North American meteorites, 
I would like to bring your attention to an eBay offering (ending soon) of a 
classified find from the California Mojave Desert: 
San Bernardino Wash (L5)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221353605398 


This under-appreciated meteorite promises to become better-known now that 
additional field-work and research results are starting to appear on the 
Internet:

https://www.google.com/#q=San+Bernardino+Wash+L5+meteorite+strewn-field 

Although the study of this area is too early to determine the possible TKW of 
this meteorite, 
it certainly will not rival Gold Basin (L4/6), but it promises to be the next 
Trilby Wash. 
The specimens that I am offering are the remaining slices from the samples used 
to determine pairing. 
These two classifications confirmed their pairing to the SBW(L5) type-specimen 
held at UCLA. 
I will only be offering additional specimens for auction until the cost of this 
lab-work has been defrayed. 
But, as usual, I will continue to accept requests for samples by any interested 
researchers. 

Thank you for your interest,
Bob V.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: North American meteorite - San Bernardino Wash (L5)

2014-01-20 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Bob, All,
Just home from a hunt, haven't had the opportunity to reply until now.
 I don't have photos of the other stone/fragments, but I do have a few
photos of SBW#1 on hand:

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7095.jpg

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7101.jpg

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/comparison.jpg

Is there any evidence for pairing beyond equilibrated L?  As you can
see, that slice looks a bit different.
Regards,
Jason

www.fallsandfinds.com


On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For those collectors with an interest in North American meteorites,
 I would like to bring your attention to an eBay offering (ending soon) of a 
 classified find from the California Mojave Desert:
 San Bernardino Wash (L5)
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221353605398


 This under-appreciated meteorite promises to become better-known now that
 additional field-work and research results are starting to appear on the 
 Internet:

 https://www.google.com/#q=San+Bernardino+Wash+L5+meteorite+strewn-field

 Although the study of this area is too early to determine the possible TKW of 
 this meteorite,
 it certainly will not rival Gold Basin (L4/6), but it promises to be the next 
 Trilby Wash.
 The specimens that I am offering are the remaining slices from the samples 
 used to determine pairing.
 These two classifications confirmed their pairing to the SBW(L5) 
 type-specimen held at UCLA.
 I will only be offering additional specimens for auction until the cost of 
 this lab-work has been defrayed.
 But, as usual, I will continue to accept requests for samples by any 
 interested researchers.

 Thank you for your interest,
 Bob V.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ad: North American meteorite - San Bernardino Wash (L5)

2014-01-20 Thread Robert Verish


Yes Jason, 
I agree, they definitely look different. 
But what has me puzzled is something that is not all that apparent in our 
images.  The exterior of our two stones.
Your stone has a very well-preserved exterior (even though your interior is a 
uniformly-colored W3), whereas, 
my exterior (which is not visible in the image) is gone, actually eroded. Yet 
somehow, my stone's interior 
is less weathered than your stone (my stone was classified as W1). 
I wonder, if the interior of my stone were to weather to a W3, just how much 
it would look like your stone?


But, to directly answer your question, I would have to refer you to my latest 
Meteorite-Times article:  
http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/2014/jan14.htm 
for my description of how a cluster of obviously-paired fragments found at SBW 
had such a variation in looks, 
that it prompted me to sample a number of them and to actually have two of 
those fragments classified. 
For your convenience, I'll show them here: 

Pinto Mountains --     (L6 S3 W1 Fa23.8+/-0.3% n=16; low-Ca pyroxene 
Fs20.3Wo1.5 n=17)-- 1955 stone
San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S2 W3 Fa24.6+/-0.6% (n=7) -- (UCLA type-specimen) -- 
2010 stone
San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S1 W3 Fa24.0+/-0.2% (n=24)    -- 
2012A fragment
San Bernardino Wash -- (L5 S2 W1 Fa23.8+/-0.4% (n=14)    -- 
2012B fragment 


This just might be a case of (very) micro-environments acting immediate to 
where each fragment is found, that is causing all of these differences.

I'm open to any and all other explanations, 
Bob V.   





On Monday, January 20, 2014 2:48 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Bob, All,
Just home from a hunt, haven't had the opportunity to reply until now.
I don't have photos of the other stone/fragments, but I do have a few
photos of SBW#1 on hand:

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7095.jpg

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DSCN7101.jpg

http://meteoritegallery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/comparison.jpg

Is there any evidence for pairing beyond equilibrated L?  As you can
see, that slice looks a bit different.
Regards,
Jason

www.fallsandfinds.com



On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 For those collectors with an interest in North American meteorites,
 I would like to bring your attention to an eBay offering (ending soon) of a 
 classified find from the California Mojave Desert:
 San Bernardino Wash (L5)
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/221353605398


 This under-appreciated meteorite promises to become better-known now that
 additional field-work and research results are starting to appear on the 
 Internet:

 https://www.google.com/#q=San+Bernardino+Wash+L5+meteorite+strewn-field

 Although the study of this area is too early to determine the possible TKW 
 of this meteorite,
 it certainly will not rival Gold Basin (L4/6), but it promises to be the 
 next Trilby Wash.
 The specimens that I am offering are the remaining slices from the samples 
 used to determine pairing.
 These two classifications confirmed their pairing to the SBW(L5) 
 type-specimen held at UCLA.
 I will only be offering additional specimens for auction until the cost of 
 this lab-work has been defrayed.
 But, as usual, I will continue to accept requests for samples by any 
 interested researchers.

 Thank you for your interest,
 Bob V.
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[meteorite-list] AD - Listings ending in 24hr

2014-01-20 Thread Garry Stewart


I have several auctions ending in 24hrs.  8 new items will be listed at that 
time.

For meteorites: samhill01 - http://www.ebay.com/sch/samhill01/m.html
For terrestrial rocks: xeqtr - http://www.ebay.com/sch/xeqtr/m.html

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[meteorite-list] Rosetta's Comet Chase Is On

2014-01-20 Thread Ron Baalke

www.spaceflightnow.com/rosetta/140120wakeup/ 

Rosetta's comet chase is on
BY STEPHEN CLARK
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
January 20, 2014

Out of contact with Earth since June 2011, Rosetta is about to conclude 
a 10-year sojourn through space and pull alongside comet named 
Churyumov-Gerasimenko 
in August, when the European Space Agency probe will become the first 
mission to ever orbit one of the dirty snowballs believed to harbor 
the building blocks of life.

European Space Agency officials say Monday's wakeup launches Rosetta into 
a year of firsts: rendezvousing with a little-known comet beyond the orbit 
of Mars, maneuvering into a series of jagged, imprecise orbits, surviving 
blasts from dust and ice crystals, then ejecting a hitchhiking robot named 
Philae to latch onto the comet with harpoons and ice screws.

Such a tricky encounter, set to begin this summer, has never been tried 
before.

We have our comet-chaser back, said Alvaro Gimenez, ESA's director of 
science and robotic exploration. With Rosetta, we will take comet exploration 
to a new level. This incredible mission continues our history of 'firsts' 
at comets, building on the technological and scientific achievements of 
our first deep space mission Giotto, which returned the first close-up 
images of a comet nucleus as it flew past Halley in 1986.

Rosetta's on-board timer was programmed to go off at 1000 GMT (5 a.m. 
EST) Monday, but it took more than eight hours to receive a report on 
the spacecraft's condition. The probe roused itself from sleep, activated 
heaters and regained control of its orientation before aiming its high-power 
antenna toward Earth.

Admittedly nervous after waiting 31 months with no signals from the $1.7 
billion mission, ground teams at ESA's control center in Darmstadt, Germany, 
were elated with the news.

Although Rosetta's signal made it to Earth within the expected window, 
the team had to wait a little longer than most officials expected. NASA-owned 
70-meter (230-foot) antennas in California and Australia were trained 
on Rosetta's predicted location in the sky waiting on a peep from the 
probe 500 million miles away.

A video feed streamed from the Darmstadt control center finally showed 
a spike in the signal at 1818 GMT (1:18 p.m. EST).

I think that's been the longest hour of my life, said Andrea Accomazzo, 
Rosetta's spacecraft operations manager.

It's been a spectacular few moments of torture, said Martin Kessler, 
Rosetta's science operations manager.

The slumber was necessary to keep Rosetta going because it flew so far 
from the sun -- a maximum distance of 490 million miles -- that its solar 
panels could no longer generate enough power to supply the probe's control 
and communications systems. Engineers only left Rosetta's heaters on standby 
to turn on intermittently to keep the spacecraft's internal components 
warm.

Rosetta's control team will learn more about the spacecraft's condition 
in the coming hours and days. The signal initially received Monday was 
just a carrier tone, Rosetta's way telling the ground team, I'm alive!

One of the first commands sent up to Rosetta after wakeup was to trigger 
a torrent of telemetry data detailing the status of every system aboard 
the spacecraft except its science instruments, which will be activated 
and tested in the next few weeks.

Rosetta's journey began March 2, 2004, with a middle-of-the-night blastoff 
aboard an Ariane 5 rocket from its French Guiana launch base.

The mission was a year late getting off the ground due to worries over 
the Ariane 5 rocket's reliability after a launch mishap in December 2002. 
The delay prompted a change in destination to Churyumov-Gerasimenko, 
colloquially 
known as 67P or C-G, an ice world four times larger than Rosetta's original 
target.

Since departing Earth a decade ago, Rosetta has returned for flybys three 
times and zoomed past Mars in February 2007, returning a spectacular 
self-portrait 
of the probe's solar panel backdropped by the stark landscape of the red 
planet.

Rosetta also logged flybys of asteroids Steins and Lutetia in September 
2008 and July 2010, collecting data and imagery in a chance for bonus 
science on the way to the mission's ultimate objective.

Since lifting off in 2004, Rosetta's odometer stands at 3.8 billion miles.

The craft's extensive suite of cameras, spectrometers, dust analyzers 
and other science instruments will be switched on and tested in the next 
few months. In late March, the German-led Philae lander riding piggyback 
on Rosetta will be activated for the first time in three-and-a-half years 
to check its status.

A major course correction maneuver is planned for May to change Rosetta's 
velocity by approximately 800 meters per second, or 1,800 mph, and adjust 
the craft's trajectory to arrive in the vicinity of Churyumov-Gerasimenko 
in August.

Rosetta's long-range camera should acquire the first images of the comet 
this spring, with the 3-mile-wide comet 

[meteorite-list] Water Found in Stardust Suggests Life is Universal

2014-01-20 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24907-water-found-in-stardust-suggests-life-is-universal.html

Water found in stardust suggests life is universal
by Catherine Brahic
New Scientist
20 January 2014

A sprinkling of stardust is as magical as it sounds. The dust grains that 
float through our solar system contain tiny pockets of water, which form 
when they are zapped by a blast of charged wind from the sun.

The chemical reaction causing this to happen had previously been mimicked 
in laboratories, but this is the first time water has been found trapped 
inside real stardust.

Combined with previous findings of organic compounds in interplanetary 
dust, the results suggest that these grains contain the basic ingredients 
needed for life. As similar dust grains are thought to be found in solar 
systems all over the universe, this bodes well for the existence of life 
across the cosmos.

The implications are potentially huge, says Hope Ishii of the University 
of Hawaii in Honolulu, one of researchers behind the study. It is a 
particularly 
thrilling possibility that this influx of dust on the surfaces of solar 
system bodies has acted as a continuous rainfall of little reaction vessels 
containing both the water and organics needed for the eventual origin 
of life.

Dust rain

Solar systems are full of dust - a result of many processes, including 
the break-up of comets. John Bradley of the Lawrence Livermore National 
Laboratory in California and his colleagues inspected the outer layer 
of interplanetary dust particles extracted from Earth's stratosphere.

Ultra-high-resolution microscopy allowed them to probe the 5- to 25-micrometre 
specks of dust to reveal small pockets of trapped water just beneath the 
surface.

Laboratory experiments offer clues to how the water forms. The dust is 
mostly made of silicates, which contains oxygen. As it travels through 
space, it encounters the solar wind. This stream of charged particles 
including high-energy hydrogen ions is ejected from the sun's atmosphere. 
When the two collide, hydrogen and oxygen combine to make water.

As interplanetary dust is thought to have rained down on early Earth, 
it is likely that the stuff brought water to our planet, although it is 
difficult to conceive how it could account for the millions of cubic kilometres 
of water that cover Earth today. In no way do we suggest that this was 
sufficient to form oceans, says Ishii.

Universal water

A more likely origin for the huge volume of water on our planet is wet 
asteroids that pummelled early Earth. Comets are also a candidate: the 
European Space Agency's Rosetta spacecraft, due to send a lander to a 
comet later this year, is tasked with probing their role.

However, the Bradley team's results are relevant to the quest for life 
on other planets. The water-producing reaction is likely to be universal, 
and to happen in any corner of the universe with a star, or even a supernova, 
says Ishii.

What's more, interplanetary dust in our solar system - and in others 0 
contains organic carbon. If stardust contains carbon and water, it means 
the essentials of life could be present in solar systems anywhere in the 
universe and raining down on their planets.

These are the types of processes that we expect to occur in other planetary 
systems, says Fred Ciesla of the University of Chicago in Illinois, who 
was not involved in the work. Water and organics are not uncommon.

Journal reference: PNAS, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.1320115111

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Re: [meteorite-list] Another meteorite-hit poser kid with scars????Have we seen this before!

2014-01-20 Thread Sean T. Murray

FYI Folks,

Hal Povenmire was able to secure a few specimens that he sent to one of his 
lunar lab contacts in Nasa.  It turned out that they were terrestrial, as 
many of us suspected.  The standing theory (giving them the benefit of the 
doubt that the child was actually hit) is that it may have been gravel 
or a small stone that had dropped off of the wheel of a jet (they live off 
the flight path of a nearby airport.)


Sean

-Original Message- 
From: drtanuki

Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:33 AM
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Another meteorite-hit poser kid with scarsHave 
we seen this before!


List,
 Just watch the very unlikely video.  Scars in the head. I am meteorite 
dubious!

http://www.cbs12.com/news/top-stories/stories/vid_11507.shtml

Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2014-01-20 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Chelyabinsk

Contributed by: Jarkko Kettunen

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp
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