[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Paul Swartz via Meteorite-list]

Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Salaices

Contributed by: Paul Swartz

http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp?DD=11/10/2017
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Re: [meteorite-list] Clarification Of A Clarification

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

Anne,

There is a difference between the terms defaulting and stealing. 
Stealing is a criminal term and defaulting is a civil one.  I never used 
the word stealing so please do not put words in my mouth.  I also never 
admitted to using faulty information either as you state but will not 
post word of mouth statements in the future since they are only as 
reliable as the person supplying them and one has to rely on memory to 
recount them. I agree that written statements are always better.


I was publicly accused of self-pairing and "Gaslighting" by the person 
you are trying to defend who injected himself into the debate with these 
false accusations and this was not the first time.  Anne, where is your 
concern for others reputations that were accuse of similar things, by 
the same person, which are well documented in the archives?  I am not 
asking for an apology but if it makes this situation right,


I apologize.

Adam



On 11/9/2017 4:37 PM, Anne Black wrote:

Adam,

On behalf of probably quite a few people, thank you for your not-very-clear 
Clarification of a Clarification. And for admitting that you used faulty 
information to accuse someone of stealing.
However we all live in a world where trust is everything and where someone's 
reputation can be wrecked by one single email, so this is not enough.
You accused someone of stealing Publicly, now you need to take back that 
accusation and apologize just as Publicly.

It is only fair.

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-Original Message-
From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
To: metlist 
Sent: Thu, Nov 9, 2017 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Clarification Of A Clarification

I was asked how this information was "conveyed" to me and to clarify the phrase "This information was conveyed to me at a later date."This information was conveyed to me by word of 
mouth without supporting documentation by a person who claimed to have first-hand knowledge and involvement in the deal.I am not interested in addressing syntax-semantics any further since it could easily 
escalate into a sub-debate not related to meteorites,AdamOn 11/7/2017 6:06 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:> > In an attempt to be as clear as possible, I must clarify a statement I > 
posted to the list on November 5th:> > The statement below which was made during the debate that escalated into > arguments, was not clearly articulated and could be taken as a single > event, 
when in actuality, it was two:> > > The complaint against you, on the other hand, about self-pairing a Black > Beauty 
stone, which was never paid for according to the seller, resulted > in a different outcome.> > > > The part that reads 
"which was never paid for according to the seller" > was a qualifying statement in regards to the stone and not part of the > original self-pairing complaint to the IMCA.  This information 
was > conveyed to me at a later date.> > The IMCA doesn't consider complaints about non-paying parties that > default on agreements.> > Adam> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Clarification Of A Clarification

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Adam,

On behalf of probably quite a few people, thank you for your not-very-clear 
Clarification of a Clarification. And for admitting that you used faulty 
information to accuse someone of stealing.
However we all live in a world where trust is everything and where someone's 
reputation can be wrecked by one single email, so this is not enough. 
You accused someone of stealing Publicly, now you need to take back that 
accusation and apologize just as Publicly. 

It is only fair.

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


-Original Message-
From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
To: metlist 
Sent: Thu, Nov 9, 2017 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Clarification Of A Clarification

I was asked how this information was "conveyed" to me and to clarify the phrase 
"This information was conveyed to me at a later date."This information was 
conveyed to me by word of mouth without supporting documentation by a person 
who claimed to have first-hand knowledge and involvement in the deal.I am not 
interested in addressing syntax-semantics any further since it could easily 
escalate into a sub-debate not related to meteorites,AdamOn 11/7/2017 6:06 PM, 
Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:> > In an attempt to be as clear as 
possible, I must clarify a statement I > posted to the list on November 5th:> > 
The statement below which was made during the debate that escalated into > 
arguments, was not clearly articulated and could be taken as a single > event, 
when in actuality, it was two:> > 
> The 
complaint against you, on the other hand, about self-pairing a Black > Beauty 
stone, which was never paid for according to the seller, resulted > in a 
different outcome.> > 
> > The 
part that reads "which was never paid for according to the seller" > was a 
qualifying statement in regards to the stone and not part of the > original 
self-pairing complaint to the IMCA.  This information was > conveyed to me at a 
later date.> > The IMCA doesn't consider complaints about non-paying parties 
that > default on agreements.> > Adam> 
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http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com> Meteorite-list mailing list> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Clarification Of A Clarification

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

I was asked how this information was "conveyed" to me and to clarify the 
phrase "This information was conveyed to me at a later date."


This information was conveyed to me by word of mouth without supporting 
documentation by a person who claimed to have first-hand knowledge and 
involvement in the deal.


I am not interested in addressing syntax-semantics any further since it 
could easily escalate into a sub-debate not related to meteorites,


Adam




On 11/7/2017 6:06 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:


In an attempt to be as clear as possible, I must clarify a statement I 
posted to the list on November 5th:


The statement below which was made during the debate that escalated into 
arguments, was not clearly articulated and could be taken as a single 
event, when in actuality, it was two:



The complaint against you, on the other hand, about self-pairing a Black 
Beauty stone, which was never paid for according to the seller, resulted 
in a different outcome.




The part that reads "which was never paid for according to the seller" 
was a qualifying statement in regards to the stone and not part of the 
original self-pairing complaint to the IMCA.  This information was 
conveyed to me at a later date.


The IMCA doesn't consider complaints about non-paying parties that 
default on agreements.


Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] I Processed my NWA 8529 H-6 into my Sphere Rough - Pics & Qestions

[Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list]

> On Nov 9, 2017, at 7:13 AM, bobadebt--- via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is it acceptable to fix separated slices?
> 
> If so what do you use?
> 
> Are collectors, in general, interested in large slices like this even though 
> they are have a separated section?
> 
> Should I just cut or continue to separate the separated slices in to smaller 
> pieces?

Some may fix broken slices, but to me it would be tantamount to 
misrepresentation unless properly disclosed. Far better to take the loss and 
sell the broken slices as part slices. As a matter of fact if I see slices with 
fractures in them, I prefer to take the loss and break the slices at the 
fracture(s) than to have the slice arrive to a client broken. 

This is the main reason why I almost never buy meteorites with visible cracks 
through the rind of the stone into the matrix. 

Gary Fujihara
Big Kahuna Meteorites Inc.
PO Box 4175, Hilo, HI  96720
(808) 640-9161
http://www.ebay.com/sch/fujmon/m.html


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[meteorite-list] I Processed my NWA 8529 H-6 into my Sphere Rough - Pics & Qestions

[bobadebt--- via Meteorite-list]

I received my 2.4 kilo NWA 8529 H-6 Chondrite yesterday and processed it 
into my sphere rough today.


The good, it was quite fragmented but I was able to find the most solid area 
to cut my rough from.


The bad, the cube does have some cracks and I hope Dmitry can stabilize it 
before he makes it into a sphere PLUS it’s BROWN and I’m kind of sick of 
brown spheres.





I have a couple questions.

Is it acceptable to fix separated slices?

If so what do you use?

Are collectors, in general, interested in large slices like this even though 
they are have a separated section?


Should I just cut or continue to separate the separated slices in to smaller 
pieces?







The 2.4 Kilo Whole Specimen

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/NWA%208529/NWA%208529%20Whole%20Specimen%20001_zpssotglmpx.jpg


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/NWA%208529/NWA%208529%20Whole%20Specimen%20002_zpsvoc3pzxb.jpg




Here it is on the saw, which was just big enough to process this whole 
specimen


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/NWA%208529/NWA%208529%20on%20the%20Saw_zpsihgp6nms.jpg



My 57mm (oversized) Sphere Rough

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/NWA%208529/NWA%208529%20Sphere%20Rough%20001_zpsrnt0vukh.jpg



The remaining cuts, the top left end cut is the only piece that stayed 
together which is ironic because I thought it would fall to pieces due to 
all of the fragments


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/BobaDebt/Meteorites/NWA%208529/NWA%208529%20Slice%20Lot%20001_zpsfgrn6bst.jpg














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[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

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