Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

I also had one cast of Adamana, but sold it long ago in Ensisheim. I still have 
another two
casts, one of them from the Middlesbrough fall in England, way back in 1881, 
but this is a
bit inferior to production quality than Adamana. My best cast is that of the 
Neuschwanstein
fall in Germany in the Alps, very near to the Austrian order (.. of the early 
found sample).
This production was initiated by my dear collector collegue Dieter Heinlein, 
and is special
insofar, as it is nicely coloured, looking almost like the original natural 
stone, which I
once had the pleasure to be able to hold it in my hands, and moreover it has 
exactly the
weight of the original stone. Also not for sale. It will go along with my small 
original
Neuschwanstein specimen one of these days, but not now...

Best
Alex Seidel
Stade/Germany



> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2019 um 23:15 Uhr
> Von: "Paul Gessler via Meteorite-list" 
> An: "Bernd V. Pauli" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
>
> I got one of those casts from Bob back in the day and he autographed it on
> the bottom. COOL (not for sale)
> I just weighed it and mine weighs 899 grams exactly.
>
> Don't know why others weigh double that??? maybe different casting agent?
>
> Paul Gessler
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bernd V. Pauli via Meteorite-list
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 11:10 AM
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bob Haag's Adamana Cast
>
> Hi Tim and List,
>
> > Does anyone know how much Bob Haag's Adamana (VENUS STONE)weighs?
>
>
> The plaster cast of Bob Haag's Venus Stone weighs 2000 grams!
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Bernd
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Hraschina iron meteorite

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

I saw it offered a long time ago, but if there are any newer offers,
rest assured you have to rely STRONGLY on a good and solid documentation
of the specimen, as goes with all "famous" meteorites (..like e.g. Hoba etc).

P.S.: I am sorry, I can´t offer Hraschina. That one missed my collection,
unfortunately.

Best wishes anyway
Alex
Stade/Germany




> Gesendet: Samstag, 01. September 2018 um 10:41 Uhr
> Von: "cbo891 via Meteorite-list" 
> An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Hraschina iron meteorite
>
> Dear Collectors/Sellers!
> 
> Iam looking for a Hraschina iron meteorite piece.
> 
> It fell in 1751, Croatia.
> 
> If you have please drop me an e-mail.
> 
> Best Regards!
> 
> Zsolt
> IMCS#6251
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Re: [meteorite-list] Are we prepared for an asteroid headed straight to Earth?

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

Pardon, but wasn´t there already one or the other Twitter info on just that topic early today or any other one

of those incredibly unbelievable mornings from someone of those superb and absolutely competent experts?

 

 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 09. August 2018 um 00:39 Uhr
Von: "Mattias Bärmann via Meteorite-list" 
An: Paul , Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Are we prepared for an asteroid headed straight to Earth?



 

Categorization as "fake news" would be a quick and inexpensive reaction to asteroids sized whatever.
 

Am 09.08.2018 um 00:27 schrieb Paul via Meteorite-list:

Cartier, K. M. S. (2018), Are we prepared for an asteroid headed
straight to Earth?, Eos, 99, https://doi.org/10.1029/2018EO101939.
Published on 29 June 2018.
https://eos.org/articles/are-we-prepared-for-an-asteroid-headed-straight-to-earth
https://eos.org/scientific-disciplines/planetary-science

Yours,

Paul H.
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Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

I did not follow this closely, but as far as famous US collections are
concerned, don´t forget the Haag and Schwade collections, besides Monnig
and Nininger. Well, may be I overlooked something here, and it was already
mentioned. If so, pardon please.

Then I suggested the Pultusk meteorite should definitely be added to Mendy´s 
first list, which was done in the meantime, thank you.

Best regards
Alex Seidel
Stade/Germany



> Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. Mai 2018 um 19:18 Uhr
> Von: "Anne Black via Meteorite-list" 
> An: mendy.ouzil...@gmail.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites
>
> In the Famous Collections section you are forgetting the Monnig Collection.
> Almost as important as Nininger.
> 
> In collection #2, I would add
> Belle Plaine
> Haxtun
> Huckitta
> Glorieta Mountain
> Tafassasset
> 
> and in collection #3, I would certainly add 
> Nakhla, the real one. Yes, it is available (I have it) ;-)
> 
>  
> Anne Black
> IMPACTIKA.com
> impact...@aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list 
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Sun, May 13, 2018 10:04 am
> Subject: [meteorite-list] The "definitive" collector's list of meteorites
> 
> Friends,
> 
> If only I could do this halfway ... ;-)
> 
> Many of you have provided great feedback on what specimens should and should
> not be included in this list. In reading your feedback, I, like some of you,
> also came to the conclusion that just one list does not make sense. To make
> this list consistent, we will assume all specimens are greater than 1g,
> unless in very rare instances, micros are really all that are realistically
> available. The other thing I realized is that every collection should own
> some historic specimens and while some are must-haves, like L'Aigle and
> Ensisheim, there are many others where once the collector gets to a certain
> point, they should have the education necessary to make the right decision
> for their own collections. After carefully reviewing the list, I realized
> that like many other similar lists I've seen, there are geographic biases.
> For example, Park Forest is a must have for American collectors, but Barwell
> or Crumlin is a far better choice for European collectors (even taking into
> account the price differences). Finally, I decided to organize the list
> levels based on availability and price. There are no post-Antarctic treaty
> meteorites on this list for obvious reasons.
> 
> Note: This is not the list for type specimen collectors.
> 
> Now, from this list, how would you adjust it ...
> 
> 
> -
> 1) Beginner's list (up to $20/g and easily available):
> Saharan XXX stoney preferably with dark brown or black smooth crust (not
> fresh) - can be NWA 869
> L3 with good contrast chondrules between chondrules and matrix
> Iron specimen - a piece of Sikhote Alin shrapnel or hand-sized Campo del
> Cielo
> Seymchan (with olivines)
> Vaca Muerta
> Saharan HED - Eucrite like DHO 007, Diogenite like NWA 7831, Howardite like
> NWA 1929
> 
> ***Non-meteorite: Indochinite tektite (this is only non-meteoritic listing
> so as not to complicate this list further)
> 
> Then - 
> Bondoc nodule
> Gao-Guenie (oriented)
> Chelyabinsk
> Sikhote Alin - individual
> 
> 
> -
> 2) "I'm starting to get addicted" list (up to $250/g and/or moderately easy
> to find):
> Can include larger and nicer specimens from Beginner's list.
> Abee
> Alfianello
> Allende
> Almahatta Sitta (coarse grained URE variant)
> Bencubbin
> Bereba
> Bilanga
> Bjurbole
> Camel Donga
> Campo del Cielo - large regmaglypted specimen
> Canyon Diablo
> Cape York
> Carancas
> Chergach (or Bassikounou)
> DAG 999
> Estherville - bonus for adding a nugget
> Esquel
> Gebel Kamil
> Gibeon
> Gujba
> Henbury
> Hoba
> Holbrook
> Ibitira
> Imilac
> Isheyevo
> Johnstown
> Juancheng
> Kainsaz
> Kapoeta
> Lake Murray
> Lunar - Tindouf pairings (any feldspathic breccia)
> Marjalahti
> Martian - NWA 7397, NWA 6963
> METEOR-WRONG: Mendota, Shirokovsky
> Miles
> Millbillillie
> Mount Dooling
> Moss
> Mundrabilla
> Murchison
> Norton County
> NWA 2999 (or its pairings)
> NWA 859 (Taza)
> NWA 801
> NWA 998, or other more recent Saharan Nakhlite
> Odessa
> Pena Blanca Spring
> Portales Valley
> Puerto Lapice
> Pultusk
> Saricicek
> Sao Joao Nepomuceno
> Tatahouine
> Thuathe
> Tirhert
> Tucson
> Udei Station
> Valera
> Weston
> Whitecourt
> Wiluna
> Willamette
> Wolfe Creek
> Wold Cottage
> --
> Oriented specimens
> Specimen(s) from your city, state, country
> --
> Museum specimens: 
> Famous collection specimens: Nininger, Kranz, Upham, Dupont, Buddhue, ...
> Ouzillou (just seeing if you're paying attention)
> --
> For European collectors:
> Barwell
> Chantonnay
> Crumlin
> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone using Metbase?

[Alexander Seidel via Meteorite-list]

Hi All,

does anyone have experiences with Windows 8 so far in this respect?
I am using MetBase on an old laptop with XP, which works well, but
will upgrade to another machine soon, and these new machines, if they
are not from "Apple", will now run on Windows 8 or 8.1, right?

Joern Koblitz, afaik, is a very busy man, CEO of his own company in a
field now which has nothing to do with meteorites. This is at least what 
I have heard in the past, when I asked people who knew him, as to whether 
he will upgrade his great database or not. I was happy enough to talk
to him, and meet him on several occasions, but this is already a decade
or so ago. So I´m not sure about the actual situation, and especially
not sure, whether an adjustment to new operating systems can or will be
made or not. There are certainly some guys around here, who will still
have more actual contacts to Joern, they may know. Or Joern himself may be
reading this, as he was an always-present, very friendly and knowledgeable 
man on many meteoritical "occasions" (e. g. MetSoc meetings) in the past,
And by the way, he had (or may be he still has) a very impressive personal
collection of meteorites.

Alex
Berlin/Germany 



> Gesendet: Montag, 02. Juni 2014 um 00:08 Uhr
> Von: "Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list" 
> An: "Sergey Vasiliev" 
> Cc: "meteorite list" 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Anyone using Metbase?
>
> Hi Sergey,
> 
> I have it loaded on to a windows 7 machine. I was too stupid to know that I 
> couldn't. It works perfectly.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jun 1, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Sergey Vasiliev  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Mike, Peter, All,
> > Unfortunately MetBase is not working on the MS OS systems above
> > Windows XP. At least on my PC. I'm keeping MS XP on my computer just
> > for that!
> > I do like MetBase very much and hope that Joern will adjust it for the
> > new Windows OSs. Even without updates for the new meteorites entries,
> > just with the old database.
> > I'm personally using MetBase database for my website. I like that I
> > can use the actual day/month of fall/find to show it
> > (http://sv-meteorites.com/) on the right column.
> > Unfortunately MetBull has no data like this.
> > Best!
> > Sergey
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Peter Scherff via Meteorite-list
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi Mike,
> >> 
> >>Metbase is my first stop when looking for info on a meteorite. If I
> >> want to add a sample to my collection the repository info is a great help.
> >> If I want to learn more about the meteorite the list of references is
> >> awesome, it is almost as good as having Bernd Pauli beside you. The only
> >> problem is that it needs to be updated. If there was an update available I
> >> would purchase it in an instant. My guess is that the online database of 
> >> the
> >> Meteoritical society has cut into the demand for Metbase. It shouldn't,
> >> Metbase has a great multivariate search function that leaves the Met
> >> society's database in the dust. I hope that Metbase is updated soon, I need
> >> a new disk and would love more info on more meteorites.
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Peter
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Meteorite-list [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] 
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
> >> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:44 PM
> >> To: Meteorite List
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Anyone using Metbase?
> >> 
> >> Hi List,
> >> 
> >> I was looking at the MetBase website and was curious if anyone here is
> >> currently using the MetBase software.  Do you find it useful and is it 
> >> worth
> >> the investment?
> >> 
> >> I noticed that the last update listed on the website was scheduled for 
> >> 2012.
> >> Is it still being updated?
> >> 
> >> Best regards,
> >> 
> >> MikeG
> >> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Alexander Seidel]

Wow - fantastic individual! 
And really BIG for a Murch!

Congrats,
Alex
Stade/Berlin, Germany



> Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. April 2014 um 09:00 Uhr
> Von: valpar...@aol.com
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>
> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Murchison
> 
> Contributed by: Ronnie Mckenzie
> 
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

[Alexander Seidel]

If this were so, it would be quite an irresponsible action, just as if someone 
dropped a big stone from a cliff or a skyscraper, not caring for any 
potentially 
valuable things or even living persons on the ground. I hope this was not so, 
and 
I still believe that this was nothing but a cleverly arranged April´s fool 
joke, 
which indeed seems to irritate a lot of persons here and elsewhere. Time will 
tell, 
as probably some of the involved well-known persons will make a statement as 
time 
goes by...

Alex
Berlin/Germany



> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. April 2014 um 23:17 Uhr
> Von: "Michael Farmer" 
> An: "Ron Baalke" 
> Cc: "Meteorite Mailing List" 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
>
> I agree fully that is most likely explanation. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Ron Baalke  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it
> > passed near the skydiver beneath him.
> > 
> > Ron
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Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite

[Alexander Seidel]

Nothing but an intelligent April Fool - well done! :-)

There´s "a bit tooo much smile" on all the faces, the 
falling stone scene is way too unrealistic, and I believe, 
this is just a brilliant hoax done by people (like Morten) 
with a lot of humour, phantasy and technical skills...
 
Alex
Berlin/Germany

 

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. April 2014 um 23:11 Uhr
> Von: "Chris Peterson" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
>
> Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be 
> produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric 
> acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most 
> acoustics as well.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ***
> Chris L Peterson
> Cloudbait Observatory
> http://www.cloudbait.com
> 
> On 4/3/2014 3:00 PM, Martin Neukamm wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a 
> > supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a 
> > further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I 
> > aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event 
> > in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody 
> > wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event 
> > does not say it could have occured.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Martin
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Re: [meteorite-list] Info Wanted

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MeteoriteFriends08.html

THIS, in a way, is much more interesting than the "Proud Tom issue",
and it shows how "time flies", as it obviously was not renewed over 
a very long time span - and so is sort of a small photographic window 
into a distant past...

Many of those collectors may now be hiding in the dark, some will,
and many may have left the hobby since then. New faces now, new big boyz, 
new gamblers, and also new serious people in the world of meteoritics...

[Ever thought about an update to this, Cap´n? :-)]

Best
Alex
Berlin/Germany
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Re: [meteorite-list] New fall

[Alexander Seidel]

Well done!
Alex


> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. März 2014 um 22:51 Uhr
> Von: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] New fall
>
> Mike kindly informs us:
> 
> "New fall in Tucson AZ! Evan Reese Farmer
>  6 lb 13 oz. Born 20 March 2014 1157 am.
> 
> Wow! Congrats and a hearty welcome to Evan Reese !!!
> 
> Bernd
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?

[Alexander Seidel]

The so-called "Cap´n" knows the whole story and can tell all the answers
that you are longing for. By the way: it wasn´t the best chapter in the
history of this famous list: it had it´s time, way back then, but then 
again things move(d) on to much more serious issues, which was/is good.

Alex
Berlin/Germany



> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 um 23:10 Uhr
> Von: "Ruben Garcia" 
> An: "Art Jones" 
> Cc: MeteorList 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?
>
> Hi all,
> 
> Yup, I was wrong!
> 
> If Art doesn't know it must be a good secret - I thought I alone was
> in the dark.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Art Jones  wrote:
> > Hi Ruben, Gary, and List;
> >
> > I remember there were several theories at the time, but I never heard 
> > anything definitive.
> >
> > -Art
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Ruben 
> > Garcia
> > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:05 PM
> > To: Gary Fujihara
> > Cc: MeteorList
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Proud Tom?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I guess I was wrong, I've had several private emails and no one seems to 
> > know - or disclose if they do know.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Gary Fujihara  wrote:
> >> Hey Ruben, I remember Proud Tom. I always thought there was a pirate 
> >> behind the persona (but I could be wrong).
> >>
> >> gary
> >>
> >> On Mar 13, 2014, at 12:01 PM, Ruben Garcia  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello(tap, tap, tap)  Is this thing on?  Can anyone one hear 
> >>> me?
> >>>
> >>> Come on, I know someone out there knows.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ruben Garcia
> >>>  wrote:
>  Hi all,
> 
>  Now that it's probably been at least 10 years since Proud Tom's last
>  appearance would someone please tell me (publicly or privately)
>  who was behind that persona?
> 
>  I may be the only list member that still remembers him and his
>  antics who doesn't know who was behind it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - Steins (New Mexico)

[Alexander Seidel]

Oh, by the way: that "..ei.." in the German word Stein is pronounced 
like the "i" in the word "mine", not differently. :-)

Regarding Facebook and other social networks: I´m another one of those
"oldies amongst other oldies": no FB! I rely on Art´s list and mainly on
my private contacts established after all those fine years with the hobby. 
But my highest respect for personal decisions, if these are different!

PS: once upon a time I discussed with David New, who visited me at my home, 
the then upcoming things with the internet. He gave me quite a conservative 
answer, which I understood very well in those years. Well, that was a long 
time ago, and can´t really be compared to the situation nowadays. "The
times they are a changin´", to quote a famous musician.

It´s always good to have "friends", but I doubt that the FB term of being
a "friend" applies in every respect... :-) 
 
Just some late evening thoughts from a collector oldie, best regards anyway,

Al"61 yrs"ex
Stade/Berlin, Germany

 

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. März 2014 um 21:22 Uhr
> Von: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Update - Steins (New Mexico)
>
> Hello Bob & Moni,
> Hello List,
> 
> "You're welcome, Bernd!"
> 
> My pleasure!
> 
> "I had to donate a thin-section and the type-specimen (taken
>  from the main-mass) in order to 'get the ball rolling' again."
> 
> Thank you for getting the Steins ball rolling again!
> A "Rolling Stone" ... so-to-speak!  :-)
> 
> "stein" is the German word for "stone".
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Bernd
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Add Ivory Coast Tektite

[Alexander Seidel]

> I was lucky enough to look through the stock Alain has and purchased a 4.55g
> specimen. I thought it was the prettiest of the lot though they are 
> all pretty. My very first tektite purchase! Mendy Ouzillou

Hi Mendy,

your very first tektite purchase really an Ivory Coast Tektite? Well, if so, 
you 
start at a rather high end, top level there. But haven´t you seen the very 
beautiful 
Czech moldavites before? Sometimes you also have to pay premium prices for 
these, as 
there are some really outstanding specimen on the marketplace, but anyway it is 
the 
usual "starter" with tektites.

P.S.: while moving, I recently looked at an almost perfect flanged button 
Australite 
in my own private collection, which was sort of locked away long ago. These 
small
goodies also command quite high prices nowadays, if they are perfect or near 
perfect. 

Anyway, Mendy - have a look at the moldavites, they can be VERY, VERY 
beautiful! And
there is a definite connection with the Ries Crater in Germany, so you will 
have a
nice piece with both coordinates in space and time... :-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany



> Gesendet: Dienstag, 04. Februar 2014 um 04:43 Uhr
> Von: "Paul Harris" 
> An: "Anne Black" 
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Add Ivory Coast Tektite
>
> Hi Anne,
> 
> I'll be waiting for it :-)
> 
> Paul
> 
> On 2/2/2014 10:43 PM, Anne Black wrote:
> > Patience, everybody!
> >
> > Alain Carion did write an article about the history of those rare 
> > tektites, with pictures!. I will translate it and it will be published 
> > in Meteorite-Times (if ok with Paul), but that won't happen until I am 
> > back in Denver after the Tucson Show.
> >
> > Goodnight.
> >
> >
> > Anne M. Black
> > www.IMPACTIKA.com
> > impact...@aol.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mendy Ouzillou 
> > To: Mike Jensen 
> > Cc: Meteorite List 
> > Sent: Thu, Jan 30, 2014 11:34 pm
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Add Ivory Coast Tektite
> >
> >
> > I was lucky enough to look through the stock Alain has and purchased a 
> > 4.55g
> > specimen. I thought it was the prettiest of the lot though they are 
> > all pretty.
> >
> > My very first tektite purchase!
> >
> > Mendy Ouzillou
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Mike Jensen  
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> > I stopped by Alain Carions room and he had recently purchased a lot of
> > Ivory Coast tektites. Previously if you have ever seen one you would
> > be very lucky. I have only ever seen 3 in 20 years of selling
> > meteorites. The price would also reflect the rarity. It would probably
> > be in the $1500-$2000 range. The provenance on these is impeccable.
> > They were originally collected in a cotton field over a ten year
> > period in the 1950's to 1960. They were purchased from the original
> > finders grandson. He only brought 30 with him. He does have more but
> > no telling how long they will last. I have a 5.38 g and a 4.03g. I
> > will price them at only $200 per gram. So if you are interested in one
> > let me know ASAP. I will add postage to each order.
> > https://plus.google.com/photos/109538410126952617536/albums/5974929987539389457?authkey=CLT-6aLQ74_J8AE
> >  
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Mike
> > -- 
> > Mike Jensen Meteorites
> > 16730 E Ada PL
> > Aurora, CO 80017-3137
> > USA
> > 303-946-1495
> > IMCA 4264
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Re: [meteorite-list] Saudi Arabia rocket body reentry

[Alexander Seidel]

Cool observation, cool interpretation, cool identification!
P.S.: wish I had ever personally seen a satellite reentry in 
my former life as a visual satellite observer in the pre-
internet-years, but unfortunately wasn´t lucky with that...

Thumbs up guys,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



> Gesendet: Freitag, 17. Januar 2014 um 19:58 Uhr
> Von: "Matson, Robert D." 
> An: "Michael Farmer" , drtanuki 
> Cc: meteorite-list 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Saudi Arabia rocket body reentry
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Mike is correct. It's the reentry of the CZ-3B rocket body
> (International
> Designation 2008-028B) that launched Chinasat-9 back in June 2008. The
> reentry track goes right over central Saudi Arabia:
> 
> http://www.aerospace.org/cords/reentry-predictions/upcoming-reentries-2/
> 2008-028b/
> 
> --Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Farmer
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 6:57 AM
> To: drtanuki
> Cc: meteorite-list
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Saudi Bolide? 16JAN2013 update/ videos
> butunverified
> 
> seems way too slow, i think rocket debris re-entry.
> 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:35 AM, drtanuki  wrote:
> 
> > List,
> > Saudi Bolide? 16JAN2013 update/ videos but unverified
> > 
> >
> http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2014/01/mbiq-detects-saudi-arab
> ia-fireball.html
> > 
> > Dirk Ross...Tokyo
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Alexander Seidel]

Absolutely perfect and amazing stone - congrats, Jan!
And thx to Tucson Meteorites for continuing excellent
service with the "Meteorite Picture of the Day"...

Alex
Berlin/Stade, Germany



> Gesendet: Sonntag, 15. Dezember 2013 um 08:00 Uhr
> Von: valpar...@aol.com
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day
>
> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified
> 
> Contributed by: Jan Woreczko
> 
> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch from Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour

[Alexander Seidel]

Yes, pretty cool! Well, then again I have to correct myself: 97 deg inclination 
is sun-synchronous, and not really retrograde, so we may spot it visually 
always 
at about the some season of the year, *IF* it is in such an orbit. Will look 
out 
for the Two Line Orbital Elements, which will appear soon of may have appeared 
already, even if this is a classified satellite...

Alex
Stade/Berlin, Germany 



> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. August 2013 um 20:42 Uhr
> Von: "Linton Rohr" 
> An: "Alexander Seidel" , "Matson, Robert D." 
> 
> Cc: Meteorite-list 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch 
> from Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour
>
> Yeah, thanks Rob... that was pretty cool to watch!
> I got to see one a couple years ago from just east of Vandenberg.
> The rumble you feel in person is pretty awesome!
> Linton
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alexander Seidel" 
> To: "Matson, Robert D." 
> Cc: "Meteorite-list" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch 
> from Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour
> 
> 
> > Just watched the launch via webcast - exciting! Thanks, Rob, for sharing
> > the info. Reminds me of some "old days" in Florida, at the Eastern, the
> > Atlantic coast. This one is going into a 97 deg inclination retrograde 
> > orbit,
> > right? Hope to see it visually some time in the future on a clear night..
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Alex
> > Stade/Berlin, Germany
> >
> >
> >
> >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. August 2013 um 18:59 Uhr
> >> Von: "Matson, Robert D." 
> >> An: "Dan M" , Meteorite-list 
> >> 
> >> Betreff: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch 
> >> from Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour
> >>
> >> Hi Dan/All,
> >>
> >> A live feed of the Delta 4 Heavy launch will be webcast on the ULA
> >> website
> >> starting in about 30 minutes:
> >>
> >> http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Webcast.shtml
> >>
> >> --Rob
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dan M
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:59 PM
> >> To: Meteorite-list
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Definitely a rocket launch Wednesday morning
> >> onWest Coast.
> >>
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> >> dLBQ.gmail
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch from Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour

[Alexander Seidel]

Just watched the launch via webcast - exciting! Thanks, Rob, for sharing 
the info. Reminds me of some "old days" in Florida, at the Eastern, the 
Atlantic coast. This one is going into a 97 deg inclination retrograde orbit, 
right? Hope to see it visually some time in the future on a clear night..

Thanks again,
Alex
Stade/Berlin, Germany



> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. August 2013 um 18:59 Uhr
> Von: "Matson, Robert D." 
> An: "Dan M" , Meteorite-list 
> 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] OT: link for live feed of Delta 4 Heavy launch from 
> Vandenberg AFB in < 1 hour
>
> Hi Dan/All,
> 
> A live feed of the Delta 4 Heavy launch will be webcast on the ULA
> website
> starting in about 30 minutes:
> 
> http://www.ulalaunch.com/site/pages/Webcast.shtml
> 
> --Rob
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dan M
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 2:59 PM
> To: Meteorite-list
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Definitely a rocket launch Wednesday morning
> onWest Coast.
> 
> http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/billcarroll.html?article=11606724#.Uh0gqtU
> dLBQ.gmail
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Re: [meteorite-list] Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and Bernd in the Sky with "Hilda" :-)

[Alexander Seidel]

Good decision for a long-time meteorite aficionado, fellow collector
colleague over many years, and amateur astronomer, all in one person!

Alex
Berlin/Stade, Germany




> Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juli 2013 um 20:21 Uhr
> Von: "Bernd V. Pauli" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and Bernd in the Sky 
> with "Hilda" :-)
>
> Hello List,
>
> Can you imagine my surprise when Rob Matson emailed me and told me
> that I would be honored with something very special for my birthday last
> May 12. He had done a bit of pre-planning regarding the wording of the
> citation and had got the help from a few people notably Dorothy Norton,
> John Kashuba, Bob and Moni Verish – all of whom (including Rob Matson
> himself, of course!) I want to thank very, very much.
>
> I am truly honored to be wandering among the stars while still roaming
> terrestrial fields! I am deeply touched to orbit the Sun together with such
> celebrities as our late O.R. Norton [(163800) Richardnorton], his wife
> Dorothy Norton [(149243) Dorothynorton = 2002 RL239], my late friend
> Jim Kriegh [149244 Kriegh], alongside our esteemed Geoff Notkin [(132904)
> Notkin = 2002 RB237], just to name a few.
>
> The minor planet (247553) 2002 RV234 is a member of the Hilda family.
> Hildas are in a 3:2 orbital resonance with Jupiter, i.e. they complete 3
> orbits for every two Jovian orbits. They have dark surfaces, are rich in
> organics and contain water. CI and CM meteorites are believed to originate
> in these types of asteroids.
>
> My little asteroid is about 6.5 km in diameter, and, assuming an average
> density of 2.1 g/cm^3 for CI/CM chondrites, this would amount to a mass
> of about 3 x 10^11 metric tons (300 billion metric tons).
> Most of this detailed info was provided by Rob Matson!
>
> Here is the PDF-link to the Minor Planet Circular:
>
> http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/ECS/MPCArchive/2013/MPC_20130722.pdf
>
> Just enter my family name and you’ll find me at the top
> of the second column of page 231 of that Circular.
>
> Thank you very much for this
> honor bestowed on me,
>
> Bernd
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer

[Alexander Seidel]

So, you won´t lighten up, Adam?? Is this the spirit of the list, after all?
I think Art has done a great job by temporarily rejecting mails for everyone
to come down to Earth again. Gary made a great response, I concur with that.
The "Big Boyz" will always have their playgrounds here, but just don´t tax
Art´s patience over the limits... We had and we still have fun here for more
than a decade now, so why not just be a little more humble and stay in overall
good spirits..? :-)

Then again: shake, rattle and roll!
Alex
Berlin/Germany




> Gesendet: Sonntag, 09. Juni 2013 um 18:22 Uhr
> Von: "Adam Hupe" 
> An: Adam 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer
>
> I will not lighten up. This is very serious. I have no problem whatsoever 
> with Andi.  One or two mistakes over a long period of time is understandable. 
>  Taking immediate responsibility for a mistake is admirable and the right 
> thing to do.
>
> It is when I see a pattern that I become alarmed.  I have observed 
> long-winded descriptions in the artifact market.  This is reason for great 
> concern.  Genuine artifacts with proper papering stand on their own and do 
> not need novels or excuses to describe them.  One just needs to contact the 
> authenticator with a unique serial number and any doubts will be removed. The 
> same goes for coins, baseball cards and many other high end collectables.  Do 
> meteorites need to go the same way?
>
>
> In meteorites, collectors depend more on trust than papering.  It would be 
> cost prohibitive to have independently produced C.O.A.s with unique serial 
> numbers for each every named specimen.  This is where trust comes in.  Trust 
> can only be violated so many times and then confidence goes away.  I see this 
> happening now.
>
>
>
> Adam
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Gary Fujihara 
> To: Adam Hupe 
> Cc: MeteorList 
> Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer
>
> Aloha Adam,
>
> Lighten up. As Alex stated, no one is perfect and immune from making errors. 
> We are all human and we all make mistakes. Martin and Andi have been gracious 
> to admit their mistake and accept responsibility for their parts in this 
> unfortunate incident. And for that, I have the utmost respect for them.
>
> Andi, keep up your good works in meteorites, and Martin, please get out in 
> the sun again - vitamin D is good for you and the pasty look is most 
> unbecoming.  ;^)
>
> gary
>
> On Jun 9, 2013, at 4:51 AM, Adam Hupe  wrote:
>
> > How many bites at the apple do you want? How many more reputations need to 
> > be destroyed?  How many times does this have to happen in order to 
> > completely destroy collector confidence? I had my worst week ever on eBay 
> > after this latest incident. It not only affects collectors, it undermines 
> > those who vet their products properly.
> >
> > I think an exclusive apology to Mike Farmer doesn't go far enough. 
> > Distributing fake ID cards along with the bogus material and then claiming 
> > it came from a Meteorite Icon has gone way too far.  Any meteorite dealer 
> > who has been around for a few years would have recognized this material for 
> > what is really is; "Garbage put on the market in order to fleece collectors 
> > out of their hard earned money"
> >
> > Happy Collecting,
> >
> > Adam
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Martin Altmann 
> > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 5:33 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer
> >
> > (A.S.: Hi Art, please let it through, it's important for me, but also for
> > the collectors for not falling for the same scam)
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > After a few days of contemplation (sorry for having been slow, but they were
> > necessary for me to cool down),
> > I want to publically and cordially apology to you all, and especially to
> > Mike Farmer, hoping he will accept it.
> > I was wrong and my reaction was crude, unjust and inadequate.
> > All three specimens in question turned out to be fakes.
> >
> > Mike was right
> > and due to his expertise it was avoided that the pseudo-Estherville came in
> > further circulation,
> > neither the forged Bondoc nor the faked Murchison were distributed,
> > so that a direct damage, caused by my fault, to the community was averted.
> > Therefore we have to thank Mike.
> >
> > Those fakes must have been built by someone, who has a deeper knowledge
> > about meteorites,
> > as it's relatively uncommon, that classical names of semi-rarely meteorites
> > are used and the fakes equipped with a legend and labels. (So far we can
> > recall only another case, the forged Dhofar-Moon, which was more easy to
> > unmask, as the specimens came with a "certification" of the university
> > Muenster, which doesn't issue such, and the find was only one stone, so that
> > the finder himself immediately could identify them as fakes, as no fragm

Re: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer

[Alexander Seidel]

Kudos, Martin! Give him (and Andi) a hand, folks!

Nobody is perfectly immune to errors, and this one was
by no means intentional. They apologized, and this is
very honorable, and even more: it is outstanding!

Alex
Berlin/Germany




> Gesendet: Sonntag, 09. Juni 2013 um 14:33 Uhr
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer
>
> (A.S.: Hi Art, please let it through, it's important for me, but also for
> the collectors for not falling for the same scam)
>
>
> Hello,
>
> After a few days of contemplation (sorry for having been slow, but they were
> necessary for me to cool down),
> I want to publically and cordially apology to you all, and especially to
> Mike Farmer, hoping he will accept it.
> I was wrong and my reaction was crude, unjust and inadequate.
> All three specimens in question turned out to be fakes.
>
> Mike was right
> and due to his expertise it was avoided that the pseudo-Estherville came in
> further circulation,
> neither the forged Bondoc nor the faked Murchison were distributed,
> so that a direct damage, caused by my fault, to the community was averted.
> Therefore we have to thank Mike.
>
> Those fakes must have been built by someone, who has a deeper knowledge
> about meteorites,
> as it's relatively uncommon, that classical names of semi-rarely meteorites
> are used and the fakes equipped with a legend and labels. (So far we can
> recall only another case, the forged Dhofar-Moon, which was more easy to
> unmask, as the specimens came with a "certification" of the university
> Muenster, which doesn't issue such, and the find was only one stone, so that
> the finder himself immediately could identify them as fakes, as no fragments
> of that stone did exist).
>
> We tried to investigate the case further, fearing that more of such fakes
> will appear to the harm of the collectors.
> But the seller seems to be now untraceable.
> His name is:   Jankó Zoltán from Hungary. He claimed to have purchased an
> older mineral collection a few years ago, where these specimens were a part
> of among other meteorites. And the collector's name, he gave, is: József
> Vida from Derecske.
>
> So we ask you all, to be extremely cautious (and to inform us) if persons of
> these names contact you.
>
>
> Well, 33 years I was able to sort out the fakes, wrongs, mislabeled ones,
> now I failed.
> That shouldn't and that mustn't happen and is in that field unforgivable.
> (At least, after having learned the lesson, also to behave better, I hope to
> stay fake-free now till 2046).
>
>
> So I end with the necessary: Mea maxima culpa,
> and stay in silent contrition until I'll be allowed
> to see the sun again..
>
> Martin Altmann
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) 19.3 GRAM CHELYABINSK for sale

[Alexander Seidel]

Why don´t you just let this guy do what he likes to do, Mike?
He´s been sort of an "entertainer" of the list for years, it´s
a never ending and absolutely unavoidable story! :-) So where´s
the beef? [BTW: I´m sure he won´t kill your business with his ads!]

Take care, best wishes,
Alex
Stade/Berlin, Germany



> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 01. Mai 2013 um 16:44 Uhr
> Von: "Michael Farmer" 
> An: "steve arnold" 
> Cc: meteorite-list 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) 19.3 GRAM CHELYABINSK for sale
>
> Did you pay $30g Steve? Why do you
> constantly insist on pissing your money away? Flush it down the toilet, it is 
> faster and cheaper for you since you don't even have to drive to the post 
> office and pay for shipping.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhoned
> On May 1, 2013, at 8:10 AM, steve arnold  wrote:
>
> > Hi list. I have a 19.3 gram IMB complete stone of chelybinsk for
> > sale; $20 per gram. Pics upon request.
> >
> > --
> > Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill.
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Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE

[Alexander Seidel]

I am inclined to agree with Mike, as far as the very early collected
meteorites from the Chelyabinsk fall, still in a pristine state, are
concerned. They are just beautiful samples of a fall of the century!

[BTW: don´t forget, guys, there were some falls in recent years in your
continent, which also commanded quite high prices, regardless of their
classification...]

Well, just a thought, and time will tell!
Alex
Berlin/Germany



> Gesendet: Sonntag, 24. März 2013 um 18:11 Uhr
> Von: "Michael Farmer" 
> An: "Don Merchant" 
> Cc: meteorite-list , "Don Merchant" 
> 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE
>
> Don, for once I sort of agree with Steve.
> I just returned from Russia, so I know all about the details on the ground.
> This is the most important meteorite fall in modern history, type is of no 
> concern really.
> While prices on eBay are premium, the pieces for sale are all superb, 
> collected in -30 -20f weather, still in deep freeze,  pristine. I have seen 
> pieces already oxidized that were thawed improperly, still covered in ice or 
> snow, and thus beginning to rust.
> All the material found after 3-6 ft of snow melts will be heavily damaged.
> Furthermore, driving down the strewn-field, it is mostly heavy birch and pine 
> forests, and 3 foot high grasslands, not farmland! So when that snow is gone, 
> and that grass stands up, forget it. You cant swing a detector in that 
> terrain. It is an LL chondrite, low metal anyway, detectors don't work well 
> on this meteorite unless almost touching the stone.
> While plenty more will be found, it may not be nearly as much as what we 
> thought (I admit I was wrong:). When the snow melts, we will see what 
> happens, but Russian government and scientists all working on it (I was in 
> the laboratory a week ago).
> If you want flawless clean unweathered material, now is the time.
> After the melt, it will look like a different meteorite.
>
>
> Michael Farmer
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Mar 24, 2013, at 9:34 AM, "Don Merchant"  wrote:
>
> > Hi Arnold. Why do you say you do not see the prices coming down anytime 
> > soon? There overpriced right now and there is plenty and plenty more that 
> > will be found. Its an ordinary chondrite no less! Those that can't wait a 
> > bit, of course its going cost you an arm and a leg to be the first on the 
> > block to have one. Curious to know what you paid for your piece! All I can 
> > say is, and no offence to anyone out there, is please do not sell your 
> > piece of Chelyabinsk. Keep it locked away in your collection as I do not 
> > want it in mine. Again I will wait until the craze calms down and or 
> > another Fall happens so as to take away the price and attention of this 
> > Chelyabinsk fall. I will wait when I truly know the Dealer and above all 
> > else PROOF that what I bought is the real deal. Call me cautious, call me 
> > carefull, call me an idiot, but I will play it safe on this one.
> > Sincerely
> > Don Merchant
> > Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
> > www.ctreasurescwonders.com
> > IMCA #0960
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "steve arnold" 
> > 
> > To: "meteorite-list" 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:10 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] (AD) METEORITES FOR SALE
> >
> >
> >> Hello again list. I hope you are all well. I finally got my 7 gram
> >> Chelyabinsk stone. I have never seen a more beautiful and black fusion
> >> crust. This is a fall where I do not see the prices going down anytime
> >> soon. This a real historic fall sen by the whole world. Well anyway I
> >> have a few interesting meteorites for sale, so here we go with out
> >> further ado.
> >> 
> >> 1. 104 gram TAZA bullett w/super flow lines at the bullett head.
> >> Asolutley fantastic!   $475  OR BEST REASONABLE OFFER.
> >> 2.87 GRAM unclassified oroeinted stone chondrite the best one I have  $300
> >> 3.7 gram oriented TAZA w/super flow lines one of the best I have seen
> >> with this size.$50
> >> 4.H, H NININGER 19 gram slice of canyon diablo he cut while looking
> >> for diamonds   $100
> >> 5.  65 gram orented stone absolutley complete   $250
> >> 6. 77 gram TAZA with rollover lips on both sides with some light cleaning 
> >> $300
> >> 7. 81 gram oriented stone unclassified piece.
> >>  $200
> >> 8.  57 gram oriented stone w/crater in the top of it.
> >>  $100
> >> 9.  43 gram oriented stone unclassed piece
> >> $75
> >> _
> >> Well thats it. All with free shipping and pictures upon request.
> >> Please no trade unless you have chelyabinsk pieces. Thanks for your
> >> time and have a great day.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Steve R. Anold, chicago, ill.
> >> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Dirk Ross!

[Alexander Seidel]

And, also today: happy birthday, Martin!

A round of applause for both guys! Good date,
springtime, but still a lot of late snow here
in Berlin...
 
Alex
Berlin/Germany
 

Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. März 2013 um 15:19 Uhr
Von: "Martin Altmann" 
An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Dirk Ross!
Happy Birthday

to our bolide-reporter N°1, Dirk Ross, Tokyo!


Dirk himself...
http://kuerzer.de/DaDirk

...and in his office
http://kuerzer.de/DaDirkhisoffice[http://kuerzer.de/DaDirkhisoffice]


Best!
Martin

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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Alexander Seidel]

Nice story of your find, Andi, and rock on with 
your great reports, as usual, grandmaster Svend!

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 09:42:34 +0100 (CET)
> Von: "Meteorite-Recon.com" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, valpar...@aol.com
> CC: "r...@koppelt.com" 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

> A nice find indeed Andi, and I remember it as if it were yesterday.
> 
> For those interested to read the whole story, the illustrated expedition
> report
> of the 2012 field trip to Western Sahara will be published on
> www.meteorite-recon.com by the end of this month.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Svend
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> valpar...@aol.com hat am 9. Januar 2013 um 08:00 geschrieben:
> > Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified
> >
> > Contributed by: Andreas Koppelt
> >
> > http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

[Alexander Seidel]

> An "unobserved fall" is two words to describe the one word that has
> been used for a century, "Find". The one word "Find" is good enough for
> the Catalogue of Meteorites, it was good enough for Harvey Nininger,
> and it is what I shall always use. Keep it concise.


Yep, I concur! Keep it concise.
Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Munich Show Photos

[Alexander Seidel]

Thanks for sharing, Marcin. I wonder how many of our American friends could 
easily identify most (or all) of the guys in the group photo at the top of the 
line of pics. Some well-known people, collectors/dealers/scientists, from 
Europe here concentrated right on the spot.

There will be hardly anyone out there on this list who really does not know who 
that guy from the U.S. is, in about the middle of the top row? Do I see any 
fingers up..?? :-)

Nice, representative pics! I especially like the closeups of the Kraehenberg 
meteorite from Germany, a famous historical and very nicely oriented stone, 
with just a few grams from likely only very few earlier cuts in private 
collections.

Alex
Berlin/Germany




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> Datum: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:35:38 +0100
> Von: "Marcin Cimala" 
> An: "meteoritelist meteoritelist" 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Munich Show Photos

> Hello
> Just loaded 60 photos from the show.
> http://www.polandmet.com/
> 
> :)
> 
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> http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
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[meteorite-list] Re. [meteorite list] The 5 Mio $ Collection

[Alexander Seidel]

Mine is so priceless I wouldn´t even think
about the possibility of ever having been able 
to afford it in my lifetime. Well, then again, 
I neither sold my wife nor my soul for that. :-)

Alex
Stade/Germany

 
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> Datum: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 19:17:46 -0400
> Von: "Ed Deckert" 
> An: "Don Merchant" , valpar...@aol.com, 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> CC: Don Merchant 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The $5 Million Meteorite Collection

> Well big whoop-de-doo to the three of ya.  My collection is so priceless 
> that even I can't afford it!!!
> 
> Ed  :-)
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Don Merchant" 
> To: ; 
> Cc: "Don Merchant" 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 6:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The $5 Million Meteorite Collection
> 
> 
> > Big deal to both of ya, my collection is priceless!
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Don Merchant
> > Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
> > www.ctreasurescwonders.com
> > IMCA #0960
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 1:01 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] The $5 Million Meteorite Collection
> >
> >
> >> Big deal!
> >>
> >> My collection is worth $9 million. All I need is a buyer.
> >>
> >> Paul Swartz
> >>
> >>> The $5 Million Meteorite Collection
> >>>
> >>> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/09/meteorite-collector/
> >>>
> >>> "But what about us?"
> >>>
> >>> ?We'll always have the pictures." ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes
> >>>
> >>> Martin
> >>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Chladni´s Heirs closing their doors

[Alexander Seidel]

Well spoken, Matthias - I absolutely concur.
Good luck, guys, Martin and Stefan! You did
a perfect job, and certainly will continue to
do so on the new roads.
 
We´ll stay tuned.

Alex
Stade/Germany



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> Datum: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 15:26:15 +0200
> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> An: "John Cabassi" , "Stefan Ralew" 
> CC: Meteorite List List 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chladni´s Heirs closing their doors

> 
> Stefan, these are bad news for the whole meteorite community. Over the
> years 
> Chladni's Heirs have enriched public and private collections with
> surprising 
> and astonishing new material in a dense rhythm.
> 
> And even more: you've always provided serious and precise information
> about 
> your meteorites, and splendid photos. The finish of slices was perfect as 
> well as perfectly fitting to the respective material. This high standard 
> charakterized also the packing and sending, the realization of the whole 
> deal. And last not least: you took time to answer any kind of question.
> 
> Simply spoken: Chladnis Heirs counted to the higest reputable providers 
> worldwide of this dramatically rare and exclusive stuff. Even simpler: you
> adopted this certain name quite rightly and you beared it with honor.
> 
> What a pity, now! Well, we lose Chladnis Heirs, but not the single 
> protagonists. I only can say: thank you Stefan, Martin and not to forget 
> Andi - there were three musketeers at the beginning! Good luck to all of 
> you, and especially Martin: I wish you a fast and entire recovering!
> 
> All the very best, guys. Certainly we'll stay in contact.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "John Cabassi" 
> To: "Stefan Ralew" 
> Cc: "Meteorite List List" 
> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]Chladni´s Heirs closing their doors
> 
> 
> > G'Day Stefan and List
> > Very sad news indeed. I wish you the best in your new venture.
> >
> > Cheers
> > John Cabassi
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 4:58 AM, Stefan Ralew  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear list members
> >>
> >> unfortunately, it falls upon me to announce the final closure of 
> >> Chladni's
> >> Heirs. After thorough contemplation, Martin and I have decided to end
> our
> >> cooperation. The brand 'Chladni's Heirs' will cease to exist.
> >>
> >> For more than two years there had been differences of opinion,
> especially
> >> about our public image and the division of labor within Chladni's
> Heirs. 
> >> In
> >> the end, in spite of a lot of discussions, we could not agree on 
> >> necessary
> >> changes. That is why business has more or less been in abeyance since
> >> January. Since Martin had told me that he would take some time out 
> >> because
> >> of illness, I wanted to give him time for a final decision until his
> >> recovery.
> >>
> >> For a few weeks I myself have already undertaken preparations to
> relaunch
> >> my own business (SR Meteorites) because life continues.
> >> I am determined to continue providing to all collectors the service and
> >> the quality you are used to. I look forward to many new and interesting
> >> meteorites and new challenges. And my enthusiasm is unbroken.
> >>
> >> Finally I would like to thank everyone for their support over the past
> >> years!
> >>
> >> With best wishes,
> >> Stefan Ralew
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Re: [meteorite-list] Large UK fireball!

[Alexander Seidel]

Congrats, Martin, for being in the right place at the right time! Must have 
been a gorgeous sighting, just like winning the lottery. As Rob already pointed 
out, seeing this going west it unlikely will or could have been a decaying 
satellite, as almost all of those are heading eastwards somehow, along with 
earth rotation direction, so what you saw was a spectacular fireball most 
likely originating from "the real stuff" 

Did it drop something to Earth somewhere, and where is that "somewhere"? :-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany





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> Datum: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 01:09:30 +0100
> Von: Martin Goff 
> An: Michael Farmer 
> CC: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
> , "Matson, Robert D." 
> 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Large UK fireball!

> Mike, It was absolutely stunning! Am just amazed that i saw it as i
> was on patrol in my vehicle. Right place, right time for once!
> 
> Unfortunately it appears that it will have dropped anything into the sea
> :-(
> 
> Fingers crossed for otherwise though, you never know :-)
> 
> Am a very happy chappy :-)
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Martin
> 
> On 22/09/2012, Michael Farmer  wrote:
> > wow, that would have been incredible to see in person!
> >
> > Michael Farmer
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2012, at 4:54 PM, "Matson, Robert D."
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Martin,
> >>
> >> Given the east-to-west direction, space junk is extremely unlikely.
> >> (Very few manmade objects in such retrograde orbits.)
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, from your description it sounds like it most likely
> >> ended up going over Southport into the Irish Sea southeast of the
> >> Isle of Man. Your location is less than 60 km from the coast.
> >>
> >> --Rob
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
> Martin
> >> Goff
> >> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 4:44 PM
> >> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Large UK fireball!
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have just been exceedingly fortunate to view a large fragmenting
> >> fireball over the UK. Absolutely amazing sight! Looked so similar to
> >> Peekskill with lots of fragmentation. Am unfortunately at work all
> night
> >> so unable to further research it but already there are numerous reports
> >> and sightings. A video of the event has been found here:
> >>
> >> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df89jhMjLXY)
> >>
> >> Might be space junk? The fireball had a definite greenish tinge at the
> >> beginning.
> >>
> >> Going east to west. from the A627 in Chadderton, Oldham, Lancashire.
> >> Startpoint 25 degrees altitude, 90 degrees azimuth. Endpoint 20 degrees
> >> altitude, 290 degrees azimuth. visible for 40 seconds at 22:55hrs
> >> 21/9/12. Went from green to orange to yellow with lots of
> fragmentation.
> >> Am still gobsmacked that i saw it Hopefully it will have dropped
> >> some meteorites and hopefully not into the sea!
> >>
> >> Anyway back to work now :-(
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Martin
> >> --
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Re: [meteorite-list] Email address for Peter Marmet

[Alexander Seidel]

As Peter Marmet is quite a renowned person in the international
meteorite scene, I´ll not only forward this to Martin Goff, 
but to the whole list. He´s got a new mail address recently, 
and here we go: p.mar...@hispeed.ch

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:09:04 +0100
> Von: Martin Goff 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Email address for Peter Marmet

> Hi all,
> 
> I have recently tried to email Peter Marmet via the email address that
> i have used previously, however my email has been returned saying that
> email address is no longer valid. Peter if you are reading this could
> you send me your new contact address or if anyone has it if they could
> send me an email i would appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Martin
> 
> -- 
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Re: [meteorite-list] new book published: Henbury Craters & Meteorites - AD

[Alexander Seidel]

A splendid book, highly recommendable!

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 21:40:38 +0200 (CEST)
> Von: "Meteorite-Recon.com" 
> An: meteorite list 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] new book published: Henbury Craters & Meteorites -  
> AD

> 
> Dear list,
> 
> I have the pleasure to announce the publishing of the book Henbury Craters
> &
> Meteorites –
> Their Discovery History and Study.
> 
> The 166-page volume features 127 photos, documents, maps & diagrams, the
> majority previously unpublished.
> 
> Bibliographical information:
> 
> Svend Buhl, Don McColl:
> Henbury Craters & Meteorites.
> Their Discovery History & Study
> Meteorite Recon, Hamburg 2012 [Ed.]
> 166 pages, full color
> 127 photos, documents, maps and diagrams.
> ISBN 978-3-00-039026-5
> Retail prices: Europe: € 34.90, International: 39.95 (may vary
> internationally)
> 
> Content & sample pages:
> http://www.meteorite-recon.com/en/Henbury_Meteorites_and_Craters_Book.html
> 
> Orders from Europe:
> 
> Pls. send your shipping address and I’ll proceed your order.
> 
> Orders from the US, South Americas & Australia:
> 
> Pls. send your shipping address & I’ll forward your order to
> the relevant wholesalers in the US & Australia
> 
> Thank you for your interest.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where is an admin when one is NEEDED?

[Alexander Seidel]

The "European component" of the list may be a bit more silent at times, but I 
sincerely hope it doesn´t really lessen, as your impression might be, Doug. I 
can only speak for myself, though, as one of the very early members, and an old 
dog now. I still enjoy it, and my hat goes off to Art, the captain and 
sovereign, who has managed all of it in a very cool and competent way for more 
than a decade now.

Happy Easter!
Alex
Berlin/Germany

 
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> Datum: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:43:24 -0400 (EDT)
> Von: MexicoDoug 
> An: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where is an admin when one is NEEDED?

> Dear Maundy Listers and everyone;
> 
> Yes, I also hope everyone observes or enjoys a great week (or both!).  
> Speaking of things changing, Bernd's post is a shot in the arm 
> (Motivationsschub), as well as a couple other European listmembers as 
> of late.  I miss the European component of our lisr which seems to 
> lessen as time goes on.  Blame it on entropy in an ever more complex 
> and enriched parallel & localized world, but I sincerely hope our 
> friends residing in the Old World grace us with their of their plethora 
> of kind comments like in days of yore.
> 
> This music has always raised my spirit and I would *absolutely* love to 
> see a meteorite video using it as the soundtrack, to show the marvels 
> of all creation as many enthusiastic list members I know see them.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNLDou-uChQ
> 
> Kindest wishes
> Doug
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bernd V. Pauli 
> To: meteorite-list 
> Sent: Thu, Apr 5, 2012 4:21 pm
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Where is an admin when one is NEEDED?
> 
> 
> Bob kindly wrote:
> 
> "The more time goes by, the more things remain the same."
> 
> No, Bob, you're wrong, ... meanwhile this saying
> has been updated a little by Bon Jovi  ;-)
> 
> = > The more things change the more the stay the sam e <=
> 
> Best wishes and a very
> Happy Easter to
> All of you,
> 
> Bernd
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] A Masterpiece of the new Martian fall Tissint

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/new-meteorites/tissint.html


Call it amazing, outstanding, gorgeous! Or simply: 
not of this world, literally 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Display Hardware and Suggestions Needed.

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi Count,

I´d like to suggest a caliper stand.

Best regards,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 13:38:16 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> Von: Count Deiro 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Display Hardware and Suggestions Needed.

> Hello Listees,
> 
> I have a requirement to diplay a Martian meteorite of 2.1 grams. It's an
> attractive individual with an oriented black crusted face and a greyish
> underbelly. I would like very much to mount this specimen so it is on top of a
> lucite pylon, or metal stand. It will be photographed in the mount. Of
> course we don't want to damage it. 
> 
> It will be the centerpiece in the middle of a conference table with three
> or four academics discussing the meteorite on camera. So, although small,
> it needs to call attention to itself, or look important. 
> 
> If someone sells display hardware that with, or without modification,
> might work, or has any reccommendations, please contact me off List. I only
> have a week, or so, to put something together.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Sikhote-Alin meteorite is recovered and returned back home to UNM

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/SA-RECOVERY.html

Gorgeous piece and a very happy man! Is the whole 
story officially known at this time?

Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Breja Stone, chondrite

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/taousz.html

Kudos to Dr. Svend Buhl for his photographic skills.
A masterpiece, both the pic and the meteorite itself.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer???

[Alexander Seidel]

"...someone who speaks out such ideas may have been hit by such a cosmic stone 
on his head..." [translated into English, may be poorly, sorry].

When was this said, in what connection, and who where the people involved 
(hint: it´s been long, long ago, well not really for a meteorite and it´s very 
own time scale, but quite a few generations ago for us living meteorite 
aficionados nowadays)?

Now, that´s what I would call a real *HAMMER* statement, isn´t it?! Every 
serious collector should know at least part of the answer...

Seriously, folks: it may be important to always know where a/the hammer hangs, 
but isn´t the concept of a hammer fall somewhat overstressed these days...???

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 22:17:53 +0100
> Von: zelimir.gabel...@uha.fr
> An: Martin Altmann 
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer???

> 
> .hamerhead shark hammered by a hammer meteorite in Hammerfest bay!
> 
> Zelimir
> 
> 
> 
> Martin Altmann  a écrit :
> 
> >
> > Of course, Andi.
> >
> > And if that happens there:
> > http://www.holger-melms.de/Ha06Uenden.jpg
> >
> > they will celebrate a ..?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> Andreas
> > Gren
> >
> > If a torpedo hits a hammerhead shark, is it a hammer again?
> >
> >
> > Andi
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] CONGRATULATIONS, Bob & Moni !!!

[Alexander Seidel]

Wow - what a nice surprise! CONGRATS, Moni and Bob!!

Alex
Berlin/Germany

... did it in 2005, on my 53rd birthday, having been a confirmed bachelor all 
the long years before, and never regretted it ever since!


 
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> Datum: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 23:49:10 +0100
> Von: "karmaka" 
> An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> CC: bolidecha...@yahoo.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] CONGRATULATIONS, Bob & Moni !!!

> CONGRATULATIONS, Bob & Moni !!!
>  
>  11.11.11
>  
>  ... and on top of that on my name day ;-)
>  
>  It was very nice meeting you in Ensisheim this year!
>  
>  All my very best wishes to you
>  
>  Martin
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!

[Alexander Seidel]

Well put, good reply, Ron!
Alex
Berlin/Germany


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> Datum: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 22:58:53 +0100
> Von: "Rob Lenssen" 
> An: "\'Michael Gilmer\'" , 
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!

> I remember, reading a meteorite book years ago - long before NWA
> meteorites
> became available - showing a photograph of an approx. 500g weathered
> ordinary chondrite meteorite, in situ, in Australia.
> A size, at that time completely unattainable for a collector like me. A
> great treasure.
> 
> . I would suggest to gently toss the stone onto a huge cushion, so
> that
> no harm will be done, and enjoy and appreciate your rare treasure from
> space.
> 
> Have a nice birthday!
> Rob
> 
> 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Michael Gilmer
> Verzonden: zaterdag 12 november 2011 2:19
> Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hammer Time - You Pick the Target!
> 
> Hi Listees,
> 
> Let me state now, at the start, this post is SILLY.  If you are aggravated
> or offended by meteorite-related silliness on this List, then stop reading
> and delete this post now.
> 
> Ok, you were warned.
> 
> Tomorrow is my birthday (41 going on 16) and I have indulged in a rare
> pleasure - a few shots of Maker's Mark.  This has made me a bit silly and
> a
> pointless idea spontaneously erupted from my sodded brain...
> 
> Have you ever wondered what would happen if a falling meteorite struck a
> certain object?
> 
> Now you can find out.
> 
> I have an unclassified NWA chondrite of dubious worth.  It is weathered. 
> It
> is ugly.  It's probably an H5 chondrite.  It weighs 851 grams (1.87
> pounds).
> 
> Photos of the HAMMER SMASHER METEORITE :
> 
> http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-1.jpg
> http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/smasher-2.jpg
> 
> I am going to use this meteorite to SMASH objects that you nominate for
> destruction!
> 
> Here is how this will work :
> 
> I will accept nominations from the List for objects that will be hammered
> by
> this meteorite.
> 
> Once a nomination is selected, I will take the object out into my backyard
> and place it on the ground.  I will set up a camera to capture the
> resulting
> mayhem on video.  I will then climb onto my roof and hurl the meteorite at
> the object with the intent of doing some serious damage to the target
> object.  Then I will upload the video to YouTube for hammer voyeurs around
> the world to watch.
> 
> Some rules about nominating objects :
> 
> 1) I am a man of very modest means.  This means I cannot, and will not,
> smash any flat screen plasma televisions, iPads, Ferrari windshields,
> priceless antiques, or other objects which are expensive or difficult to
> acquire.  The objects nominated should be common items that are easily
> available and inexpensive.
> 
> 2) Resist the temptation to nominate politicians (of any party
> affiliation).
> 
> 3) I will select a winning nominee based on a combination of - creativity
> and smashability.
> 
> 4) If someone wants to donate an object for smashing, I will consider and
> accept donated objects based on the criteria laid out in #3 above.
>  You will bear the cost of shipping the object to me and return shipping
> if
> you want the shattered remnants of the objects returned to you.
> 
> Let the nominations begin!
> 
> MikeG
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Galactic Stone & Ironworks - Meteorites & Amber (Michael Gilmer)
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos needed

[Alexander Seidel]

Christian died in a car crash, much too early, much too young!

If you succeed in retrieving pics of his last Vienna museum 
visit, Matteo, I would very strongly suggest that you put his 
name as a (c) to them and, may be, as an act of integrity, you
also ask his widow before publishing them, if you are able to 
somehow reach her. Unfortunately I don´t have her address at 
hands, but may be someone can help out here.

Christian was a very fine guy, and a truly dedicated collector! 
I, and some other list members here, had the great pleasure of 
teaming up with him on a NHM Vienna visit only a few years ago, 
when and where he probably took the pics that you are now talking 
about.

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:57:59 -0800
> Von: "Mike Bandli" 
> An: "\'M come Meteorite\'" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Photos needed

> You can still access Christian's site and photos via the Wayback Machine:
> 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20090310145211/http://www.austromet.com/index2.ht
> ml
> 
> You might also contact Russ Finney. He took some great photos at Vienna.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Mike Bandli
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> Subject: [meteorite-list] Photos needed
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>  I am under search photos of the italian meteorites present in the Vienna
> Museum in high resolution. Unfortunately the unique I remember to have
> seen
> its the photos take by Christian Anger, but unfortunately Christian is no
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Re: [meteorite-list] Draconid meteor shower - any reports yet?

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi Bob,

my esteemed meteorite buddy Matthias just reported here that skies were 
overcast in South Germany, but I heard that there were some clear areas over 
other parts of the country where observations could me made despite a 
disturbing nearly full moon. More on this will surely be reported soon, and a 
good place to have a look at in the meantime is this:

http://www.imo.net/draconids2011

I was very lucky to see one single bright Draconid from my balcony in downtown 
Berlin this evening 11.39 local pm (UTC 21.39), just passing 4 to 5 degrees 
over the star Vega (A Lyr) for two seconds with about mag +2.8, which is one of 
the few brighter ones. I looked for more, but did not see more meteors, as this 
is a central location of a big town, with all the city lights around, and the 
moon interfering in addition. But it should have been sort of a good show out 
on the countryside

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany  


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> Datum: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 18:19:14 -0500
> Von: Bob King 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Draconid meteor shower - any reports yet?

> Hi everyone,
> I was wondering if any list members from Europe or N. Africa were
> successful in seeing the Draconid meteor shower (storm) this evening?
> I'd love to hear any observations.
> Thanks!
> Bob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Durability of provenance

[Alexander Seidel]

Yep, provenance is provenance! I agree, and support Gary´s statement and 
suggestion!

Alex
Berlin/Stade, Germany



> Provenance is provenance.  Museums cut their specimens too, and does not
> change the fact of where they came from.  A copy of the original label 
> along with your own of the modified specimen(s) should accompany them 
> when changing hands in the future.
> 
> gary
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Re: [meteorite-list] Preview and Blog

[Alexander Seidel]

Amazing, Regine! Way to go - I mean: "weiter so!"

Alex
Berlin and Stade/Germany


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> Datum: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 19:40:16 +0100 (BST)
> Von: Regine Petersen 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Preview and Blog

> Hi all,
> 
> I would like to invite you to take a look at a small preview of my
> work-in-progress-meteorite-photobook here on my website:
> http://reginepetersen.com/work.html (click on the rock on the upper left)
> 
> Also, if you click on the Spiral Memo logo below you will get to a new
> print sales blog I have put up in order to fund the book (including a couple
> of geeky surprises). Any corrections regarding the text (facts & language)
> would be appreciated!
> 
> Credits for the specimens published on the site and the blog go to
> ASU/Laurence Garvie, Svend Buhl, Beat Booz, Peter Marmet, Marvin Killgore and
> Jürgen Nauber. Thanks to you all.
> 
> More to come! Cheers,
> Regine
> 
> www.reginepetersen.com
> www.spiralmemoprintsales.blogspot.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Speculation on big lunar deal

[Alexander Seidel]

> But I'd like to believe that given the collective intelligence 
> of this group, an amicable arrangement can be reached.


I am absolutely with Rob here! And especially I also concur with the personal 
statements of my fellow countrymen Matthias and Siegfried, and with the 
comments of my fellow Austrian collector friend Herbert made earlier.

The arguments of the IMCA board member´s decision should be made much more 
transparent, imho, in addition to what has already been said by it´s president, 
Anne Black. I would also like to read not only the re-iterated personal 
comments from one of the conflicting parties, but also from the opposing side.

Yes, this is better done on the IMCA list, essentially, but it should not be 
confined to just that place since I believe this is a matter of more general 
interest to a wider audience, as almost everyone of us meteorite friends, 
independent of being a member of that association, is involved in dealing, 
trading, buying, exchanging - all sorts of transaction which are expected to be 
based on integrity and seriosity of the participants.

A sad day...

Alex
Berlin/Germany






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Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

[Alexander Seidel]

Beer makes the mind clear! That is: if you don´t overdose 
it, of course!! And if you prefer the German or Czech brands 
with the brewing traditions of past centuries, w/o chemistry...

:-)

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 20:28:15 +0200
> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> An: "Martin Altmann" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust

> 
> Martin, we all know that Bavarians - and you C'Heirs are at least half 
> Bavarian - use to wash all new things after buying them first with beer. 
> Dark, strong Bavarian beer from old monastery breweries. And ritually they
> clean parallely also themselves, inside, with this beer. So whether the 
> shimmering and glimmering rainbow is an subjective or objective effect, is
> still uncertain. But it is.
> 
> Just my *hicks* two beers,
> Matthias
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Altmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust
> 
> 
> Just some hours ago,
> list-member Stephan Kambach sent me a picture of a Murchison individual,
> showing such a rainbow effect.
> 
> Best!
> Martin
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Mike
> Bandli
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2011 19:21
> An: 'Gary Fujihara'; 'Marc Fries'
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rainbow Fusion crust
> 
> I've seen this "rainbow effect" in the fusion crust of a few specimens in
> my
> life including Murchison, Ash Creek, and Buzzard Coulee. Jim Strope has a
> great example of Murchison with this coloration in the crust here:
> 
> http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723i.JPG
> 
> The complete page:
> 
> http://catchafallingstar.com/murchison723.htm
> 
> Very interesting. I would love to know what causes it.
> 
> --
> Mike Bandli
> Historic Meteorites
> www.HistoricMeteorites.com
> and join us on Facebook:
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> ---
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Fujihara
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 10:06 AM
> To: Marc Fries
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling & sensational
> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
> 
> Great observation Marc.  Iridescence is common on many pahoehoe lava flows
> on the Big Island, and is quite remarkable to see.
> 
> Sent from Gary's iPhone
> 
> On Jul 21, 2011, at 6:53 AM, Marc Fries  wrote:
> 
> > Mild oxidation of silicate glass (fusion crust in this case) can produce
> a
> rainbow effect, too.  I've seen this in basalts in the field. I think it
> is
> from a sheen of iron oxides created as the iron and/or sulfide weathers
> out.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Marc Fries
> >
> > On 7/21/11 1:13 AM, Aubrey Whymark wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> The rainbow colour looks like oil to me. Maybe someone has used oil or
> WD40 to clean it. I sometimes encounter 'rainbow' tektites and the guys
> want
> extra because of it - in reality it is due to oil contamination, probably
> from the mining operations.
> >>
> >> Regards, Aubrey
> >> www.tektites.co.uk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 21/7/11, Martin Altmann 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Martin Altmann
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Special: Truly baffling& 
> sensational
> Howardite - NWA 6709 - absolutely stunning and very fresh.
> >>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>> Date: Thursday, 21 July, 2011, 0:33
> >>> Hi Mike,
> >>>
> >>> no worries, neither we understood it like that.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, if one looks to the photos, the first idea,
> >>> which comes to one's
> >>> mind is: oil.
> >>> No idea, what causes this effect, maybe the composition.
> >>> Also that strange
> >>> tint the cut faces reveal.
> >>>
> >>> And especially worrying is the variety of the odd
> >>> inclusions. I mean
> >>> normally we all get already excited, whenever we find a
> >>> carbonaceous
> >>> fragment in a howardite,
> >>> but what that stone has all for strange clasts - that is
> >>> really not normal
> >>> anymore.
> >>>
> >>> Since 1999 Stefan is in Morocco and since then we certainly
> >>> had quite a
> >>> bunch of materials in our hands,
> >>> but such a weird polymict one - extremely unusual.
> >>>
> >>> And it seems that many collectors feel the same, if after
> >>> such a short time
> >>> now only three slices are left.
> >>>
> >>> Now all of the smaller ones are gone, sorry for that. But
> >>> we have still a
> >>> slice left, which we could subdivide into small partslices,
> >>> if desired - but
> >>> for that one has really to raise his finger.
> >>>
> >>> For the moment!

Re: [meteorite-list] DAWN drives up to Vesta

[Alexander Seidel]

Nördlingen, Bavaria? Hey guys, here is some "official" stuff: 
http://www.noerdlingen.de/ISY/index.php?get=276

If you go there to visit the place, you will be fascinated! There is a guy on 
the so-called "Daniel" church tower shouting out some few old words every 
evening at the full hour, and if you climb the "Daniel" at daytime you will be 
rewarded by a good view of the Ries crater rim on clear days.

And, of course, don´t forget to visit the Rieskrater museum right there in town 
- very nice!

Alex
Berlin/Germany


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> Datum: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:28:18 -0400
> Von: MexicoDoug 
> An: nakhla...@comcast.net, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] DAWN drives up to Vesta

> Hey Rob
> 
> No way I'm wrong about the Oompa-Loompas living secretly at Ries 
> Crater!  They absolutely do according to the original movie :"Charlie 
> and the Chocolate Factory".
> 
> My apologies for stealing ideas from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 
> and forgetting how to spell Oompa-Loompa!  Oopsa Loopsa ...
> 
> I should have tread more carefully over your favorite !
> 
> To prove the point, let me generally  pick up your citation where you 
> stopped, of the sacred text:
> 
> "I myself use billions of cacao beans every week in this factory.  So I 
> talked to the leader of the tribe in Oompa-Loompish and told him how 
> his people could have all the cacao beans they wanted if they would 
> only come with me and live in my factory.  Well the leader was so happy 
> he leaped up in the air and threw his bowl of mashed green caterpillars 
> right out his bong-bong tree window.  So, here they are!"
> 
> Rob, the next question is - where is "here"?  It certainly sounds like 
> England or Wales, but ... when Charlie finally gets to look over the 
> factory in the great glass Wonkavator elevator that goes up, down 
> sideways and anywhere else you want, the movie shows him leaving the 
> factory hovering over the beautful village.
> 
> What village?
> 
> Nördlingen, the very same location of Ries Crater, of course!
> 
> Not only that, the Oompa-Loompas are diogenite crazed - they have green 
> hair and were grown on a diet of green caterpillars in their original 
> homeland where they developed the slingshot technology for green sample 
> return missions and the great glass elevator itself, both of which were 
> originally defenses against the snozzwangers you mentioned!
> 
> This defense rests ;-)
> 
> Best wishes
> Doug
> 
> PS the reason I didn't mark this OT, is because next time you get to 
> visit Ries Crater you can see how the beauty of the town of Nördlingen 
> (Bavaria, Germany) had it selected as the town of the chocolate factory 
> and thus launch pad for the next adventure when the elevator was used 
> as a space ship and docked on the space station (the book was written 
> long before the ISS) where some terrible astronaut-eating aliens were 
> that would eat everyone on Earth, except they can't come down to the 
> planet without spontaneously turning into meteorites (or that's how I 
> remember it - maybe it was just "shooting stars") ...
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Wesel 
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug 
> Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 3:50 pm
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] DAWN drives up to Vesta
> 
> 
> Dude 
>  
> It's Oompa-Loompa and they live in Loompaland, not Vesta 
>  
> ‘Then you’ll know all about it,’ said Mr Wonka. ‘And oh, what a 
> terrible country it is! Nothing but thick jungles infested by the most 
> dangerous beasts in the world — hornswogglers and snozzwangers and 
> those terrible wicked whangdoodles. A whangdoodle would eat ten 
> Oompa-Loompas for breakfast and come galloping back for a second 
> helping. When I went out there, I found the little Oompa-Loompas living 
> in tree houses. They had to live in tree houses to escape from the 
> whangdoodles and the hornswogglers and the snozzwangers. And they were 
> living on green caterpillars, and the caterpillars tasted revolting, 
> and the Oompa-Loompas spent every moment of their days climbing through 
> the treetops looking for other things to mash up with the caterpillars 
> to make them taste better — red beetles, for instance, and eucalyptus 
> leaves, and the bark of the bong-bong tree, all of them beastly, but 
> not quite so beastly as the caterpillars. Poor little Oompa-Loompas! 
> The one food that they longed for more than any other was the cacao 
> bean. But they couldn’t get it. An Oompa-Loompa was lucky if he found 
> three or four cacao beans a year. But oh, how they craved them. They 
> used to dream about cacao beans all night and talk about them all day. 
> You had only to mention the word “cacao” to an Oompa-Loompa and he 
> would start dribbling at the mouth. .' 
>  
> http://static-l3.blogcritics.org/10/12/22/150635/oopma.jpg 
>  
> Rob Wesel 
> -- 
> Nakhla Dog Meteorites 
> www.nakhladogmeteorites.com 
> ww

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Scientific Journal

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi Tomek,

what a great endeavour! You mention Andrzej Pilski. I recently visited him at 
his planetarium in Frombork, Poland, and this visit, along with many other good 
contacts to this friendly country reconfirmed me how solid and rich the 
"meteorite culture" in Poland really is.

All my best, and good luck!
Alex
Berlin/Germany


 
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> Datum: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:25:29 +0200
> Von: "Tomasz Jakubowski" 
> An: Gary Fujihara 
> CC: meteorite-list 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Scientific Journal

> Thanks to all of You who cross a fingers for this project!
> Yes, A. Pilski et al, do good job, and I know they hide much more
> interesting data about primitives and Zaklodzie meteorite!
> 
> 
> All the best
> Tomek
> 
> 
> Dnia 14-07-2011 o godz. 17:43 Gary Fujihara napisał(a):
> > Fantastyczna publikacja Dr. Tomek!
> > 
> > Many thanks for providing open access to meteoritic scientific papers.  
> > I am especially interested in the paper on Primitive Enstatite 
> > Achondrites by Pilski, Przylibski, and Luszczek. I am looking forward to
> > future articles about the exciting development of meteoritic research on
> > our fabulous rocks from space that we all love.
> > 
> > gary
> > 
> > On Jul 13, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Tomasz Jakubowski wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear Meteorite Friends,
> > > I would like to announce a new scientific journal: "Meteorites".  We
> are 
> > the first open–access journal focusing exclusively on meteoritics.
> > Professor Przylibski from the Wroclaw University of Technology is the 
> > head editor.
> > > This is our website :
> > > http://www.meteorites.pwr.wroc.pl/index.html
> > > On the web-page you will find all information about the journal, how
> to 
> > download articles (for free), and how to submit publications.
> > > Soon more information about next issue’s.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > With Best Regards
> > > Tomasz Jakubowski
> > > Managing Editor
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Gary Fujihara
> > Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693)
> > 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720
> > http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
> > http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html
> > (808) 640-9161
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Begaa

[Alexander Seidel]

"Begaa" = NWA 4910

...a long story for a fine meteorite to get an official name...
(Details are to be found elsewhere, regarding juicy gossip, and
not here, sorry :-))

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 00:34:58 -1000
> Von: "Don Giovanni" 
> An: "meteorite list" 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Begaa

> 
> Hello,
> 
> Wondering if anyone can fill in some blanks about Begaa.  It was popularly
>  
> bought and sold several years ago (and with good reason, gorgeous LL3!
> Unofficially, anyways).
> 
> But I can't find any reference in the Meteoritical Bulletin.  Not even as 
> a "synonym", so I'm thinking it must not be just a name-change deal,  
> NWA-, ect.   Eric Twelker's Meteorite Market online site offers a  
> tantalizing tidbit,  "It was reportedly bypassed by the scientific  
> community because of disputes with the finders".  It was found in 1999, so
>  
> there has surely been more than enough time for this to be officially  
> recognized, if it was ever going to be.  And a quick search of the  
> met-list archives showed a number of sale-postings, but not the story I'm 
> looking for, unless I missed something.  Same with a google search.
> 
> Can any listers can offer any insights as far as the "untold story" on  
> this beauty?  Juicy gossip preferred.  :)
> 
> DG
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 19, 2011

[Alexander Seidel]

> Ah wonderful, that's the real Sikhote wine!

Yep! Better a sip of real Sikhote wine than ..whine..!
Fine piece, thanks for sharing, I like those old ones!

Alex







 
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:15 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - April 
> 19,2011
> 
> 
> > http://www.rocksfromspace.org/April_19_2011.html
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers re: displaying sold items

[Alexander Seidel]

Exactly, Martin! So it was, once upon a time...!
[Uncle] Alex


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> Datum: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 03:43:17 +0200
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Question for dealers re: displaying sold items

> Uncle Alexander, where art thou?
> 
> You have to tell the old stories to the Youth,
> who doesn't want to bear the incredible hardship, to type for a minute an
> electric message into their newfangled apparatuses and to wait another
> minute for an answer, in acquiring a desired meteorite specimen.
> 
> Tell them from the days, where the collectors sat down, painting with the
> stylus a letter on real paper, putting it in an envelope, taking a walk to
> the post office,
> and where the happy ending, after that kind of conversation forth and
> back,
> eventuated after months with the find of the specimen in the letter box.
> 
> Tell them, how people spent only for making enquiries after a specimen and
> to come to terms for oversea-calls more than today a 3 pound Campo does
> cost.
> 
> Tell them the anecdotes, that collectors sometimes paid the flight for the
> finder, for him to come to show a stone to them.
> 
> Tell them, how the collectors travelled a thousand miles to the show, to
> visit two handful of rotten ordinary chondrites.
> 
> Meteorites!  Pieces of other worlds, of The Moon and Planet Mars!!
> 
> Uncle Alex, see them bluster with SUCH a material, as if they would have
> to
> wait a minute too long at the counter for receiving their burgers!
> 
> O tempora, o mores!
> 
> The World as Will and Ebay;
> Or Meteorites are Socks.
> 
> ;-)
> Martin
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] "Black-Market Trinkets From Space" April 5, 2011

[Alexander Seidel]

Anyway, I would certainly agree to Geoff Notkin, who wrote: "even the edited 
version helps get the point across", regarding Daryll Pitt´s letter to the NYT. 
Thanks, Daryll!

This is important! You most certainly can´t circumvent or obviate editing, but 
it is good to have a good argument made available to the public, who can then 
put it into some more subtle perspective for themselves.

Anne has done a very sophisticated job with her rebuttal, but don´t expect to 
have that printed by the NYT. This great rebuttal will take effect in a more 
profound sense elsewhere, I´m sure.

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany 




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> Datum: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:05:37 EDT
> Von: geo...@aol.com
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] "Black-Market Trinkets From Space"  April 5,
> 2011

> I think  "Letters to the Editor" are  routinely edited in other
> newspapers. 
> I've written a few of these kinds of  letters and they all get edited for 
> one reason or another. Often for length and  also more the rebuttal is
> anti 
> to the newspaper stance, the more the important  points seemed to get
> watered 
> down or omitted. 
> GeoZay
> 
> The "Letter to  the Editor" referred to was, of course, edited.  
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] ??SaharaMet...who are they!

[Alexander Seidel]

There was talk about the Pelissons, with regard to the topics just discussed on 
this list, many, many years ago - it´s just an old story...

Al"Metcentrallist-oldtimer for over 10 yrs now"ex
Berlin/Germany


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> Datum: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 05:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
> Von: Dave Myers 
> An: "Paul H." , 
> "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com" 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] ??SaharaMet...who are they!

> 
> 
> Hi Paul and list,
> 
> The NYT story is bad enough, But who are these meteorite hunters, Roland
> and 
> Richard Pelisson who have the Sahara Met website.
> 
> They claim on there web site that NWA meteorites are "International
> Contraband" 
> that support Terrorism.
> 
> It looks to me that they want all the NWA finds for them selfs.
> 
> Has anyone ever contacted them? They seem to have had a lot of there
> meteorites 
> classified in the US. 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if anyone knows these two guys, There does not seem to be
> much 
> talk about them on this list?
> 
> Dave Myers
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> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Paul H. 
> To: "meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com"
> 
> Sent: Thu, April 7, 2011 7:48:33 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NYT Story – Overseas and Local Distribution
> 
> “Overseas list members, if you have the opportunity, 
> please peruse the International Herald Tribune to 
> see if they picked up the story and run it in its entirety.”
> 
> By searching the International Herald Tribune web site,
> I found that it was published in this newspaper on 
> April 4 at:
> 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/05/science/05meteorite.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=meteorites&st=cse
> 
> 
> The entire story also appeared in the Sydney Morning 
> Herald as “Souvenirs from space,” April 7, 2011,
> http://www.smh.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html
> 
> Also, it appeared at:
> 
> 1. rssbroadcast,com, April 4, 2011
> http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40828
> http://rssbroadcast.com/?p=40742
> 
> 2. WA.today, Australia, April 6, 2011.
> http://www.watoday.com.au/world/science/souvenirs-from-space-20110406-1d4g9.html
> 
> 3. Yahoo News
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NorthAmexemObservers/message/10634
> 
> 4. Daily Comet, Lafourche Parish Louisiana
> http://www.dailycomet.com/article/NY/20110405/ZNYT03/104053033/1225/news100?Title=Black-Market-Trinkets-From-Space
> 
> 
> 5. A version of the New York Times story, “Il mercato nero 
> dei meteoriti” appeared in the “Post” on April 6, 2011,
> http://www.ilpost.it/2011/04/06/il-mercato-nero-dei-meteoriti/
> 
> This entire text of this article is making the rounds
> of the Internet. This is something that definitely needs to
> be considered in any response. It certainly will make 
> preparing an effective response to the article quite difficult
> as it is being reprinted, in some cases under different
> titles and in different languages, in a wild range of media 
> outlets.
> 
> To further complicate matters, the link to this article is
> being posted a number of web sites. For example;
> 
> 1. Egyptology News at:
> http://egyptology.blogspot.com/2011/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space.html
> 
> 2. environmental reporting at:
> http://word.emerson.edu/sprg11jr364/2011/04/04/black-market-trinkets-from-space/
> 
> and 3. American Scientist
> http://www.americanscientist.org/science/pub/-1875
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Paul H
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Re: [meteorite-list] NYT Story

[Alexander Seidel]

> Two things, first I put a rebuttal link on my web page so anybody who uses
> the link in the article to go to my web page will find a link to comments
> posted on the metlist by Dr Agee, Mike Farmer, and Martin Altmann. 


Well done, Eric, as many readers of the NYT article with a computer at hands 
will now likely look at your website. They will read personal comments from 
highly respected people who speak for themselves on the issue, and this is 
potentially a much better observation than any third-party-summary...

Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Media

[Alexander Seidel]

> A lot of energy has been spent of this list and elsewhere in the past 
> day or two about the sham article...
> 
> I'd be curious to know how many people actually saw or read the article.
> Of course that is unknowable. I would imagine that the total number 
> will be vastly less that the numbers watching a highly popular TV 
> program about a pair of meteorite hunters.


I am inclined to support Richard´s view here. Who cares for the NYT views in 
the end, who cares for that bad article? Those who know by their own good 
personal experience how things are in the meteorite world will be able to put 
it in the right perspective for themselves, most of those who don´t know will 
have read it, and I bet many if not most of them have forgotten it in the same 
second, especially those readers that are susceptible to sensational journalism 
only, who may be the main targets for those kind of newspapers these days, even 
the NYT as it seems...

Can´t we come down to an even-tempered, unhurried, calm and serene look at the 
whole thing? I suspect the people who promote the new laws and restrictions 
won´t do it just by virtue of this little bad NYT article, they do it for other 
reasons, may be even for personal reasons. You can count them, they are surely 
not the majority. And if they do it, they don´t need the NYT or the BBC, or the 
"impact factor" via research of those examples of bad journalism for their bad 
reasoning. At best it only has a positive side-effect for them. But I believe 
the big body of all those casual readers or subscribers who are not informed 
won´t care at all or very little, and the others have a brain to use it in a 
good sense. Well, at least I hope so! :-)  

We have to look for different means to protest. Well, just a thought in all 
this mess...

Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] NYT story

[Alexander Seidel]

Thanks a bunch, Professor Agee, for your quick personal reaction, this is well 
appreciated.

Unfortunately, the public perception with regards to the content of such an 
article in an internationally well known press medium like NYT will possibly 
result in a negative inclination towards the collector and dealer community in 
meteoritics, which is very much different to the positive way we all would like 
to understand it in the best of all interdisciplinary senses. As well as the 
suspected impact from future citations of this article somewhere else might 
probably work in quite a destructive manner.

So I sincerely hope someone can set the records straight as a follow-up to this 
article - sort of a knowledgable reader´s comment or something like that...

Best regards,
Alex Seidel
Berlin/Germany
(long time collector)


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:28:10 -0600
> Von: Carl Agee 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] NYT story

> Since I am quoted in this article, here’s my reaction to it. The
> reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
> the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt and the legal meteorite trade (NWA)
> based primarily in Morocco. During the interview with him I spent a
> fair amount of time trying to explain to him how beneficial the NWA’s
> have been for planetary science research. For example, I mentioned how
> the number of rare Angrite meteorites has more than doubled due to
> African finds – a huge enhancement to our understanding of the early
> solar system, and of course I mentioned all the lunars and martians,
> and other rare classes. I told him that I was not terribly well
> informed about the Gebel Kamil crater situation, but in my opinion the
> highest priority would be to protect the impact structure from
> degradation as these are quite rare on Earth. I also told him, that
> the Gebel Kamil meteorites on the other hand, are probably  not hard
> to come by, and I’m sure if I wanted to study one for research, I
> could get a sample at a reasonable price or even get one  as a
> donation from a collector, which  museums benefit from frequently.  I
> did get the feeling that he was hoping to hear something negative from
> me. As such he ended the interview rather quickly, but said something
> like “oh, the NWA meteorites sounds like an interesting story, I need
> to come back to that at a later time”.  So of course I was
> disappointed to see what mess the final NYT version was.
> 
> --
> Carl B. Agee
> Director and Curator, Institute of Meteoritics
> Professor, Earth and Planetary Sciences
> MSC03 2050
> University of New Mexico
> Albuquerque NM 87131-1126
> 
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> Fax: (505) 277-3577
> Email: a...@unm.edu
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[meteorite-list] Doug

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi folks,

has anyone got a valid email address of Doug Dawn? 
I haven´t heard from this old time list member and
very friendly and knowledgable guy for a real long 
time now...

Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

[Alexander Seidel]

Quite a good example of an internet-meteoritefriends-connection. People who 
intelligently advance the knowledge about something quite special...

0098 greetings to Rob, Gary, Arnaud, and the rest of the gang! :-)
Alex


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:10:14 +
> Von: The Tricottet Collection 
> An: rlens...@planet.nl, MeteoriteList 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

> 
> Dear Rob,
> 
> thank you so so much for sharing these photographs as well as these 2001
> posts! Very informative.
> 
> Gary, you are right, must be #0098 then!
> 
> I will do more research and update my S-A page accordingly
> (http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/met_sikhotealin.html)
> 
> 
> Arnaud
> 
> The Tricottet Collection
> (Historic Minerals, Fossils & Meteorites)
> www.thetricottetcollection.com
> Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
> Twitter: TricottetColl
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: rlens...@planet.nl
> > To: tricottetc...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
> 16, 2011
> > Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:19 +0100
> > 
> > Hi Arnaud (and List),
> > 
> > The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on
> this
> > List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
> > As the List archives "only" go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
> > below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
> > Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.
> > 
> > Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
> > photos!).
> > Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
> > without asking permission:
> > http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
> > http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
> > http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg
> > 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Rob Lenssen
> > 
> > PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
> > Sikhote Alin:
> > http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The
> Tricottet
> > Collection
> > Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22
> > Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson
> > CC: MeteoriteList
> > Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
> 16,
> > 2011
> > 
> > 
> > First thank you all for your nice comments.
> > 
> > Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters.
> You
> > can see for example that they used the letter "I" instead of the number
> "1"
> > for that specimen:
> >
> http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
> > Or maybe the "8" is stretched because of the soft sticker.
> > 
> > Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Arnaud
> > 
> > 
> > The Tricottet Collection
> > (Historic Minerals, Fossils & Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com
> > Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
> > Twitter: TricottetColl
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> > Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens
> geok...@notkin.net
> > Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19
> > Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long]
> > 
> > Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List:
> > 
> > I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris,
> Rob
> > Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some "old
> collection"
> > Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more
> > research over the past few days.
> > 
> > Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and
> > slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white
> > gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. 
> > Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of
> > Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also
> had
> > a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below).
> However,
> > the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so
> there
> > was some doubt.
> > 
> > First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you
> > supplied here:
> > http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg   and here: 
> > http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg
> > 
> > I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in
> Rob's
> > photo "0067," and mine "0112," were evidently not collected during the
> first
> > expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would
> > expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition
> (and
> > ther

Re: [meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites" on the Sikhote Alin

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0 
> Finally the answer to the question, "how do you pronounce 
> the #@#$ thing?"...

Now this is what I would call really "authentic"! :-)

(Also in a very personal respect regarding that
interviewed person as one of those friendly guys 
around from a country that once used to be behind 
all those fences for us...)

Alex
Berlin/Germany  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

[Alexander Seidel]

> Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of
> Sikhote Alin.  The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower 
> loop of the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in 
> typewriters during that time period, even if it does not jive with


I concur with your argument, Gary! It also makes sense on the grounds that the 
label is placed on the meteorite in such a way that you can read the number 
more comfortably this way than turning the meteorite and reading the number the 
other way around... 

But your argument with loopsizes for the "8" is still stronger! :-)

Alex
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html


Wow, drop-dead gorgeous, and very exceptional with 
that special provenance!

Alex
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[meteorite-list] A fundamental tone

[Alexander Seidel]

While I am in favor of Mike reporting to the list again about his most recent 
adventure (..well, I am just curious about that personal story, I must 
admit..), I am also inclined to generally recommend very moderate and polite 
future postings here regarding this special issue, please. 

This list acts internationally, and is surely monitored by a great variety of 
readers from all fields. As long as we keep it polite, rational, and 
argumentative, and in an overall reasonable fundamental tone, it will be good 
for all in a situation, where we are faced with a certain trend of national law 
enforcements which probably would not advance the long term evolution of 
meteoritics in a positive sense, would that be any different.

Just my two Eurocents,
Alex
Berlin/Germany
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Re: [meteorite-list] apologies

[Alexander Seidel]

Now this is a real "Captain" speaking again!

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 04:34:15 -0800
> Von: Michael Blood 
> An: Meteorite List 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] apologies

> In the future, I shall seek to express my concerns in a
> more constructive manor.
> My wording was exceptionally poor in my  response
> To the idea of Mike's potential return to the list and it was
> Even worse regarding my concerns for his well being.
> I apologize to the list in general and to Mike
> In particular. 
> Sincerely, Michael
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???

[Alexander Seidel]

If nobody else publicly responds to your call, Richard, may be you better ask 
some dealers or collectors personally who are somehow known to have had some 
good pieces of Murch for sale in the past, or in their collection. If they have 
something to sell, good, else they may talk to you about sources in the more 
recent past.

I can´t give much more advice on that. My personal piece of Murchison is a nice 
cut crusted individual which I bought from Bob Haag about fifteen or more years 
ago. May be he is the one who still has some for sale in the weight ranges 
needed? I really don´t know - but: good luck! Some of the list folks here may 
also make other suggestions or offers...??? Would be glad to read more about 
this. 

Alex
Berlin/Germany
  


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 11:36:55 -0800 (PST)
> Von: Richard Kowalski 
> An: meteorite list 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Where is all the Murchison???

> Recently some of us had a discussion on Facebook about how rare Murchison
> seems to be. Rarely do you see as much as a gram available.
> 
> The Heritage Auction has a huge Murchison, 535.9g individual
> (http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=6061&Lot_No=49046)
> 
> Maybe I've missed them, or not privy to their availability, but where is
> all the Murchison between a gram and and this largest individual?
> 
> Anyone?
> 
> --
> Richard Kowalski
> Full Moon Photography
> IMCA #1081
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

[Alexander Seidel]

I could follow the auction video stream for some entertaining 1 1/2 hours, with 
some few interruptions only for technical reasons, from my site in Germany, 
early morning local time here. Nicely done, Ruben, thx a lot!

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 19:34:19 -0700
> Von: Ruben Garcia 
> An: Meteorite List 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] LIVE FEED - Now Streaming

> HI
> 
> We are now live but having internet troubleskeep your fingers crossed!
> 
> go here to see/hear and chat!
> http://www.mr-meteorite.net/livevideofeed.htm
> 
> -- 
> Rock On!
> 
> Ruben Garcia
> 
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> Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/
> Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u
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Re: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

[Alexander Seidel]

Wow, Geoff, what a present! Congrats!
And many thanks to Rob for his idea!!
Thumbs up, guys, and have a good time
in Tucson this weekend.

Alex
Berlin/Germany

..who wonders whether Ruben´s video stream
will work for me this night, or, better asked:
if I will make it waking up at 3.30 am local??

 

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:38:15 -0800
> Von: "Rob Matson" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Happy Birthday, Meteorite Men!

> Hi All,
> 
> First off, happy birthday greetings to Geoff and Steve -- I hope
> you both had a fabulous time at your Birthday Bash last night at
> the Sky Bar, and that your bar tabs were covered by everyone
> else.  ;-)  I really wish I could have made it to Tucson again
> this year, but it's been crunch-time at work getting our ground
> software operational for our satellite launch in less than six
> months. I owe you both a belated birthday cocktail the next time
> our paths cross (hopefully in some farflung strewn field!)
> 
> I got an e-mail from Bob Verish this morning, informing me that
> I won a Harvey Award last night!! I am honored and humbled and
> (as I wrote Geoff privately a little while ago) simultaneously
> a bit horrified that I couldn't be there in person last night
> to accept it. It would have been a special treat to share the
> stage with NEO-hunter-extraordinaire, Richard Kowalski, who I
> understand also won a Harvey.
> 
> As long as I'm on the subject of asteroids, I'd like to share
> with the List a little early birthday gift that I presented
> Geoff late last year, but decided to wait until his birthday
> to announce publically:
> 
> MPC 72991 citation:
> 
> (132904) Notkin = 2002 RB237
>  Geoffrey Notkin (b. 1961) is co-host of the popular Science Channel
> series Meteorite Men and author of over 100 articles on meteoritics,
> paleontology and the arts.  A discoverer of meteorites on four continents,
> he has also made documentaries for Discovery, National Geographic, PBS,
> the
> BBC and the History Channel.
> 
> - - - - -
> 
> Minor planet dynamical group:  Hilda
> Semi-major axis:  3.9982764 a.u.
> Inclination: 3.55428 degrees
> Eccentricity: 0.1440889
> Perihelion distance:  3.422169 a.u.
> Aphelion distance:  4.574384 a.u.
> Absolute magnitude: 14.4
> 
> Astrometry from 89 observations at 6 oppositions spanning 1995-2010
> Last observed:  10/9/2010 by station G96
> Discovery date : 2002 09 12
> Discovery site : Palomar
> Discoverer : Matson, R. 
> 
> The Hildas are interesting in that they are in a 2:3 orbital resonance
> with Jupiter: they complete three orbits for every two Jovian orbits.
> The first Hilda asteroid was discovered in 1875. Currently there are
> only ~1100 Hildas known, which is less than 1/4 of a percent of all
> known asteroids. They are very dark objects, with a mean albedo of
> only 0.044 -- similar to cometary nuclei. Based on this albedo and
> an absolute magnitude of 14.4, (132904) has an approximate size of
> 8.4 km. That's a cross-sectional area very close to the size of
> Manhattan, with which Geoff should be quite familiar. :-) Assuming
> a bulk density of 1.5 g/cm^3, that corresponds to a mass of around
> 4.6 x 10^11 metric tons -- around a half trillion metric tons!
> 
> Congratulations, Geoff, and welcome to the minor planet club!
> 
> Best wishes,
> Rob
> 
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

[Alexander Seidel]

"Anyone ready to buy my fantastic Tunguska black hole find? Riker box included, 
as well as small certificate "caution, glassy object!", carefully packed, 
postpaid.."



 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:11:43 +0100
Von: "Alexander Seidel" 
An: "Martin Altmann" , 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man   in  
the World

"I bought my second full slice of Hoba, to back up the first one, just 
yesterday - and what did *YOU* guy do at that time..??"


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:48:57 +0100
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in  
> the World

> >The rhinestones on my dog's collar are made from the Nakhla meteorite.
> 
> And the litter box of your cat is filled with crunched Chassigny.
> 
> 
> and if the meteorite curators are talking about you,
> they all say - you're a fine man and they think you and your kin are
> making a great job for them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> O.k. the last was so far the most impossible point of the fun thread.
> :-(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von 
> wahlpe...@aol.com
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 17:29
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the
> World
> 
> 
> 
> The smallest meteorites in my collection are the main masses of Hoba, 
> Cape York and Mbosi, just to name a few.
> 
> 
> All of the large meteorite museums house their collections in my vault, 
> kept alongside of the remains of Howard Hughes. 
> 
> 
> The rhinestones on my dog's collar are made from the Nakhla meteorite.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Bärmann 
> To: Alexander Seidel ; Martin Altmann 
> ; meteorite-list 
> 
> Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:39 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the 
> World
> 
> 
> When I meet meteorites and say "hello", I always hear them whispering: 
> "Hi, Dad!"- Original Message - From: "Alexander Seidel" 
> To: "Martin Altmann" ; 
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 
> 4:05 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man 
> in the World>>> "My blood group is W0".>> "I set up a macroscope for 
> fat sections.">>> I´m oriented! My flow lines are tsunami waves, my 
> lipping resembles Mick > Jagger!">>>>>> -Ursprüngliche 
> Nachricht->> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com>> 
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von>> 
> Alexander Seidel>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 13:39>> An: 
> Michael Gilmer; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> Betreff: Re: 
> [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the>> World>>>> 
> "They humbly asked me to take care for their Allan Hills 84001, and>> 
> Semarkona! And I answered: I might take that into consideration some >> 
> time,>> if my spare time allows!">>>> :-) Alex>>>>>>>>>>  
> Original-Nachricht >> > Datum: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 
> -0500>> > Von: Michael Gilmer >> > An: 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> > Betreff: [meteorite-list] The 
> Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the>> World>>>> > Greetings List 
> Members,>> >>> > Having just returned from hunting meteorites in 
> Antarctica (in my>> > shorts), I thought I would share some of the 
> things that make me - The>> > Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the 
> World.>> >>> >>> > I once came home empty-handed from 
> meteorite-hunting, just to see what>> > it felt like.>> >>> > Rare 
> Earth magnets are attracted to me.>> >>> > My silver tongue sets off 
> metal detectors.>> >>> > All of my finds are fully crusted and 
> oriented.>> >>> > Museum curators give me their keys.>> >>> > My visual 
> pairings are as accurate as an electron microprobe.>> >>> > Every 
> meteorite in my collection is a main mass.>> >>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

[Alexander Seidel]

"I bought my second full slice of Hoba, to back up the first one, just 
yesterday - and what did *YOU* guy do at that time..??"


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:48:57 +0100
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in  
> the World

> >The rhinestones on my dog's collar are made from the Nakhla meteorite.
> 
> And the litter box of your cat is filled with crunched Chassigny.
> 
> 
> and if the meteorite curators are talking about you,
> they all say - you're a fine man and they think you and your kin are
> making a great job for them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> O.k. the last was so far the most impossible point of the fun thread.
> :-(
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von 
> wahlpe...@aol.com
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 17:29
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Fwd: The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the
> World
> 
> 
> 
> The smallest meteorites in my collection are the main masses of Hoba, 
> Cape York and Mbosi, just to name a few.
> 
> 
> All of the large meteorite museums house their collections in my vault, 
> kept alongside of the remains of Howard Hughes. 
> 
> 
> The rhinestones on my dog's collar are made from the Nakhla meteorite.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthias Bärmann 
> To: Alexander Seidel ; Martin Altmann 
> ; meteorite-list 
> 
> Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2011 2:39 am
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the 
> World
> 
> 
> When I meet meteorites and say "hello", I always hear them whispering: 
> "Hi, Dad!"- Original Message - From: "Alexander Seidel" 
> To: "Martin Altmann" ; 
> Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 
> 4:05 PMSubject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man 
> in the World>>> "My blood group is W0".>> "I set up a macroscope for 
> fat sections.">>> I´m oriented! My flow lines are tsunami waves, my 
> lipping resembles Mick > Jagger!">>>>>> -Ursprüngliche 
> Nachricht->> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com>> 
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von>> 
> Alexander Seidel>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 13:39>> An: 
> Michael Gilmer; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> Betreff: Re: 
> [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the>> World>>>> 
> "They humbly asked me to take care for their Allan Hills 84001, and>> 
> Semarkona! And I answered: I might take that into consideration some >> 
> time,>> if my spare time allows!">>>> :-) Alex>>>>>>>>>>  
> Original-Nachricht >> > Datum: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 
> -0500>> > Von: Michael Gilmer >> > An: 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>> > Betreff: [meteorite-list] The 
> Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the>> World>>>> > Greetings List 
> Members,>> >>> > Having just returned from hunting meteorites in 
> Antarctica (in my>> > shorts), I thought I would share some of the 
> things that make me - The>> > Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the 
> World.>> >>> >>> > I once came home empty-handed from 
> meteorite-hunting, just to see what>> > it felt like.>> >>> > Rare 
> Earth magnets are attracted to me.>> >>> > My silver tongue sets off 
> metal detectors.>> >>> > All of my finds are fully crusted and 
> oriented.>> >>> > Museum curators give me their keys.>> >>> > My visual 
> pairings are as accurate as an electron microprobe.>> >>> > Every 
> meteorite in my collection is a main mass.>> >>> > If a meteorite from 
> Venus is found, NonCom will name it after me.>> >>> > Property owners 
> knock on my door after a meteorite fall.>> >>> > All of my meteorites 
> have a pleasant aroma.>> >>> > Meteoriticists ask for my opinion.>> >>> 
>  > If you find a meteorite while hunting with me, it will always be an>> 
>  > achondrite.>> >>> >

Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

[Alexander Seidel]

> I'm guessing Chuck Norris is the curator of your collection!


"Chuck who I don´t care for losers!"



> On 27 January 2011 12:38, Alexander Seidel  wrote:
> 
> > "They humbly asked me to take care for their Allan Hills 84001, and
> > Semarkona! And I answered: I might take that into consideration some
> time,
> > if my spare time allows!"
> >
> > :-) Alex
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original-Nachricht 
> > > Datum: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 -0500
> > > Von: Michael Gilmer 
> > > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > Betreff: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the
> World
> >
> > > Greetings List Members,
> > >
> > > Having just returned from hunting meteorites in Antarctica (in my
> > > shorts), I thought I would share some of the things that make me - The
> > > Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World.
> > >
> > >
> > > I once came home empty-handed from meteorite-hunting, just to see what
> > > it felt like.
> > >
> > > Rare Earth magnets are attracted to me.
> > >
> > > My silver tongue sets off metal detectors.
> > >
> > > All of my finds are fully crusted and oriented.
> > >
> > > Museum curators give me their keys.
> > >
> > > My visual pairings are as accurate as an electron microprobe.
> > >
> > > Every meteorite in my collection is a main mass.
> > >
> > > If a meteorite from Venus is found, NonCom will name it after me.
> > >
> > > Property owners knock on my door after a meteorite fall.
> > >
> > > All of my meteorites have a pleasant aroma.
> > >
> > > Meteoriticists ask for my opinion.
> > >
> > > If you find a meteorite while hunting with me, it will always be an
> > > achondrite.
> > >
> > > The Smithsonian has me on speed-dial.
> > >
> > > I can identify minerals and phases at a glance.
> > >
> > > All of my meteorwrongs turn out to be new types of meteorite.
> > >
> > > NASA's Johnson Space Center allows me to handle all of their
> > > meteorites with bare hands.
> > >
> > > I have never lost a meteorite auction, and I never pay too much.
> > >
> > > My touch removes caliche.
> > >
> > > The meteorites I traded away are rusting, because they are sad and
> miss
> > > me.
> > >
> > > Every year, a meteorite falls on my birthday.
> > >
> > > All of my export permits are approved instantly.
> > >
> > > I have memorized every Meteoritical Bulletin.
> > >
> > > If I witness a fireball, I can calculate exactly where the meteorite
> will
> > > fall.
> > >
> > > My glasses are cross-polarized.
> > >
> > > My touch will etch a polished iron.
> > >
> > > I could have bought Meteor Crater, but I am waiting for a new one.
> > >
> > > Harvey Nininger had a tattoo of me.
> > >
> > > My chessboard is a slab of Esquel pallasite and the pieces are
> > > polished lunaites.
> > >
> > > All of my pets can find meteorites.
> > >
> > > "No Trespassing" signs make an exception for me.
> > >
> > > More will be forthcoming, but right now, I am thirsty
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites
> > >
> > > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
> > > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
> > > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
> > > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
> > > Meteorite Top List - http://meteorite.gotop100.com
> > > EOM -
> http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

[Alexander Seidel]

 
> "My blood group is W0". 
> "I set up a macroscope for fat sections."


I´m oriented! My flow lines are tsunami waves, my lipping resembles Mick 
Jagger!"



 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> Alexander Seidel
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Januar 2011 13:39
> An: Michael Gilmer; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the
> World
> 
> "They humbly asked me to take care for their Allan Hills 84001, and
> Semarkona! And I answered: I might take that into consideration some time,
> if my spare time allows!"
> 
> :-) Alex
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Original-Nachricht 
> > Datum: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 -0500
> > Von: Michael Gilmer 
> > An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Betreff: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the
> World
> 
> > Greetings List Members,
> > 
> > Having just returned from hunting meteorites in Antarctica (in my
> > shorts), I thought I would share some of the things that make me - The
> > Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World.
> > 
> > 
> > I once came home empty-handed from meteorite-hunting, just to see what
> > it felt like.
> > 
> > Rare Earth magnets are attracted to me.
> > 
> > My silver tongue sets off metal detectors.
> > 
> > All of my finds are fully crusted and oriented.
> > 
> > Museum curators give me their keys.
> > 
> > My visual pairings are as accurate as an electron microprobe.
> > 
> > Every meteorite in my collection is a main mass.
> > 
> > If a meteorite from Venus is found, NonCom will name it after me.
> > 
> > Property owners knock on my door after a meteorite fall.
> > 
> > All of my meteorites have a pleasant aroma.
> > 
> > Meteoriticists ask for my opinion.
> > 
> > If you find a meteorite while hunting with me, it will always be an
> > achondrite.
> > 
> > The Smithsonian has me on speed-dial.
> > 
> > I can identify minerals and phases at a glance.
> > 
> > All of my meteorwrongs turn out to be new types of meteorite.
> > 
> > NASA's Johnson Space Center allows me to handle all of their
> > meteorites with bare hands.
> > 
> > I have never lost a meteorite auction, and I never pay too much.
> > 
> > My touch removes caliche.
> > 
> > The meteorites I traded away are rusting, because they are sad and miss
> > me.
> > 
> > Every year, a meteorite falls on my birthday.
> > 
> > All of my export permits are approved instantly.
> > 
> > I have memorized every Meteoritical Bulletin.
> > 
> > If I witness a fireball, I can calculate exactly where the meteorite
> will
> > fall.
> > 
> > My glasses are cross-polarized.
> > 
> > My touch will etch a polished iron.
> > 
> > I could have bought Meteor Crater, but I am waiting for a new one.
> > 
> > Harvey Nininger had a tattoo of me.
> > 
> > My chessboard is a slab of Esquel pallasite and the pieces are
> > polished lunaites.
> > 
> > All of my pets can find meteorites.
> > 
> > "No Trespassing" signs make an exception for me.
> > 
> > More will be forthcoming, but right now, I am thirsty
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites
> > 
> > Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
> > Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
> > News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
> > Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone
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> > EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564
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Re: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

[Alexander Seidel]

"They humbly asked me to take care for their Allan Hills 84001, and Semarkona! 
And I answered: I might take that into consideration some time, if my spare 
time allows!"

:-) Alex




 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:12:36 -0500
> Von: Michael Gilmer 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] The Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World

> Greetings List Members,
> 
> Having just returned from hunting meteorites in Antarctica (in my
> shorts), I thought I would share some of the things that make me - The
> Most Interesting Meteorite Man in the World.
> 
> 
> I once came home empty-handed from meteorite-hunting, just to see what
> it felt like.
> 
> Rare Earth magnets are attracted to me.
> 
> My silver tongue sets off metal detectors.
> 
> All of my finds are fully crusted and oriented.
> 
> Museum curators give me their keys.
> 
> My visual pairings are as accurate as an electron microprobe.
> 
> Every meteorite in my collection is a main mass.
> 
> If a meteorite from Venus is found, NonCom will name it after me.
> 
> Property owners knock on my door after a meteorite fall.
> 
> All of my meteorites have a pleasant aroma.
> 
> Meteoriticists ask for my opinion.
> 
> If you find a meteorite while hunting with me, it will always be an
> achondrite.
> 
> The Smithsonian has me on speed-dial.
> 
> I can identify minerals and phases at a glance.
> 
> All of my meteorwrongs turn out to be new types of meteorite.
> 
> NASA's Johnson Space Center allows me to handle all of their
> meteorites with bare hands.
> 
> I have never lost a meteorite auction, and I never pay too much.
> 
> My touch removes caliche.
> 
> The meteorites I traded away are rusting, because they are sad and miss
> me.
> 
> Every year, a meteorite falls on my birthday.
> 
> All of my export permits are approved instantly.
> 
> I have memorized every Meteoritical Bulletin.
> 
> If I witness a fireball, I can calculate exactly where the meteorite will
> fall.
> 
> My glasses are cross-polarized.
> 
> My touch will etch a polished iron.
> 
> I could have bought Meteor Crater, but I am waiting for a new one.
> 
> Harvey Nininger had a tattoo of me.
> 
> My chessboard is a slab of Esquel pallasite and the pieces are
> polished lunaites.
> 
> All of my pets can find meteorites.
> 
> "No Trespassing" signs make an exception for me.
> 
> More will be forthcoming, but right now, I am thirsty
> 
> 
> --
> Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites
> 
> Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com
> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
> News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516
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Re: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany) meteorite hunt

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi there, Rob!

Great report, congrats! Wish I could have been there - well, better luck next 
time. I know certain investigation, or should I say orbital analysis of the 
dark flight phase with input of a set of local weather and useful other 
parameters, is still under way, so there may still be a good chance for another 
systematic search once the new snow will have melted away in that somewhat 
mountaineous region in Southern Germany...

Cheers,
Alex
Berlin/Germany

 
 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:44:49 +0100
> Von: "Rob Lenssen" 
> An: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany)  
> meteorite   hunt

> Hmmm... Sorry
> 
> Third try, short URL?:
> http://alturl.com/6ks7x
> 
> Enjoy!
> Rob Lenssen
> AsteroidChippings.com
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Rob Lenssen
> Verzonden: maandag 24 januari 2011 22:41
> Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany)
> meteorite
> hunt
> 
> Broken Link...
> 
> Second try:
> http://www.asteroidchippings.com/Special_topics/Meteorite_hunt_Geislingen.ht
> ml
> 
> Enjoy!
> Rob Lenssen
> 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Rob Lenssen
> Verzonden: maandag 24 januari 2011 22:38
> Aan: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] report of the Geislingen (Germany) meteorite
> hunt
> 
> Hi List,
> 
> With respect to the Jan. 8th bolide above Southern Germany:
> 
> I prepared a short report of subsequent meteorite hunt by German Meteorite
> Forum members:
> http://www.asteroidchippings.com/Special_topics/Meteorite_hunt_Geislingen.ht
> ml
> 
> Enjoy!
> Rob Lenssen
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???

[Alexander Seidel]

Well, dear U.S. friends and all others around the globe, I don´t know but I 
hope this special link works for all of you: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExV4YnGi6ac&feature=channel

Happy New Year,
Alex



 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 01:20:35 +0100
> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> An: "Alexander Seidel" , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, 
> photoph...@yahoo.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???

> 
> Never believe, Alex, what a red-nosed drunkard tries to convince you of. 
> Rudolf seems to be a clearly overrated prophet, traumatized by his close 
> encounter with Bar(sic!)well some years ago.
> 
> In any case, I join you with pleasure wishing all of us a good year 2011!
> 
> Matthias, snowbound in Germany's Wild South
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Alexander Seidel" 
> To: ""Matthias Bärmann"" ; 
> ; 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 1:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???
> 
> 
> > Alan, Matthias,
> >
> > it will *definitely* happen on New Years Eve, at approximately 00:42:42 
> > [hh:mm:ss] UTC, right over (..well, admitted, approximately..) latitude 
> > 27deg 32min 42sec N of the equator and longitude 33deg 04min 42sec W of 
> > Greenwich, which unfortunately happens to be right over the Atlantic
> Ocean 
> > (...depth of sea unknown at this location to me, unfortunately).
> >
> > Well, I admit that is what Rudolph told me one of these last days, and I
> > always believed in his driving and foreseeing abilities!
> >
> > I can´t watch it, so I won´t watch it, because of other activities at
> my 
> > home right at that time, but may be someone else would kindly take care 
> > for that thing, and report thereafter...
> >
> > Have a Good and Happy New Year!
> > Alex
> > Berlin/Germany
> >
> >
> >
> >  Original-Nachricht 
> >> Datum: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:05:34 +0100
> >> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> >> An: "Shawn Alan" , 
> >> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???
> >
> >>
> >> Hello Shawn, list -
> >>
> >> my guess is: right in my garden, exactly at the birthday of my son.
> Why?
> >> Because he seems to go parellel with meteorites. He was born at just
> the
> >> same day when Chela fell in Tanzania.
> >>
> >> Best, Matthias
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Shawn Alan" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:51 PM
> >> Subject: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hello Listers,
> >> >
> >> > Been quite today on the list, I wonder if people are snowed in? I
> sure
> >> am
> >> > in NYC, the snow out here is badish, but it gives for a good time to
> >> stay
> >> > in and watch movies.
> >> >
> >> > Now the question, I an wondering what people are thinking where the 
> >> > next
> >> > meteorite fall will be and when :) . I hope the next fall will be
> soon
> >> and
> >> > somewhere in Colorado. I have friends out there and they have cars :)
> >> > We
> >> > need some excitment.
> >> >
> >> > Shawn Alan
> >> > IMCA 1633
> >> > eBaystore
> >> > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html
> >> > __
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Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???

[Alexander Seidel]

Alan, Matthias,

it will *definitely* happen on New Years Eve, at approximately 00:42:42 
[hh:mm:ss] UTC, right over (..well, admitted, approximately..) latitude 27deg 
32min 42sec N of the equator and longitude 33deg 04min 42sec W of Greenwich, 
which unfortunately happens to be right over the Atlantic Ocean (...depth of 
sea unknown at this location to me, unfortunately).

Well, I admit that is what Rudolph told me one of these last days, and I always 
believed in his driving and foreseeing abilities!

I can´t watch it, so I won´t watch it, because of other activities at my home 
right at that time, but may be someone else would kindly take care for that 
thing, and report thereafter... 

Have a Good and Happy New Year!
Alex
Berlin/Germany


 
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> Datum: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 23:05:34 +0100
> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> An: "Shawn Alan" , meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???

> 
> Hello Shawn, list -
> 
> my guess is: right in my garden, exactly at the birthday of my son. Why? 
> Because he seems to go parellel with meteorites. He was born at just the 
> same day when Chela fell in Tanzania.
> 
> Best, Matthias
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Shawn Alan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 10:51 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Where will be the next meteorite fall???
> 
> 
> > Hello Listers,
> >
> > Been quite today on the list, I wonder if people are snowed in? I sure
> am 
> > in NYC, the snow out here is badish, but it gives for a good time to
> stay 
> > in and watch movies.
> >
> > Now the question, I an wondering what people are thinking where the next
> > meteorite fall will be and when :) . I hope the next fall will be soon
> and 
> > somewhere in Colorado. I have friends out there and they have cars :) We
> > need some excitment.
> >
> > Shawn Alan
> > IMCA 1633
> > eBaystore
> > http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html
> > __
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Re: [meteorite-list] Question about lost shipment and what to do.

[Alexander Seidel]

Many years ago I had a meteorite rock´n roll back and forth from "Down Under", 
one complete roundtrip and another one way trip over the Pacific Ocean, half 
around the globe, after it finally safely arrived. This was all due to some 
really minor problem at my destination here, where the post office usually 
doesn´t hold it for longer than 7 days once a first attempt of delivery to the 
private address fails, because the addressee is in the office and not at home 
at time of delivery, so in the wrong place at the wrong time...

On another occasion I waited for more than three weeks for a small delivery 
from a dealer based in our neighbour country Switzerland, which is very close 
in geographical distance, but is not one of the EU countries, so goods are 
often delayed because of (sometimes) tough customs controls.

Well, Mike, what I want to say to you: don´t give your meteorite up! It is 
likely that it will turn up again, one or the other way. I´ll keep my thumbs 
pressed...

Have a nice Christmas time all, a happy New Years Eve, and a good start into 
2011!

Alex
Berlin/Germany 



 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine

[Alexander Seidel]

Me too! I received Vol. 16, No 1 (February), and that was it so far! My 
subscription will surely have lasted longer than that date, since I just 
renewed before the end of last year. Any others with this problem here? What 
can be done, who is to be contacted in this case (email?), while editorship has 
obviously changed? A major, or just a local problem?

Best
Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 08:45:53 +0100
> Von: "Leoncio Cividanes Álvarez" 
> An: Meteorite list 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine

> 
> Me too. Just the first issue (international).
> 
> clear skies,
> Leo
> 
> > 
> > > From: edeck...@triad.rr.com
> > > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > > Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 00:23:50 -0500
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine
> > >
> > >
> > > I have only received the first issue so far.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Dennis Miller"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 11:53 PM
> > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Magazine
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello, Meteorite subscribers Has anyone received their
> > > > November issue of Meteorite Magazine? I know it went to
> > > > the printers late but was starting to have panic attacks,
> > > > haven't received my copy yet...
> > > >
> > > > Hyperventilating Dennis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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[meteorite-list] Visit to the Meteorite Collection of the famous Natural History Museum, Vienna, Austria

[Alexander Seidel]

Hello listees,

on November 11, 2010, a group of Austrian and German private meteorite 
collectors met at the renowned Natural History Museum in Vienna, Austria, for a 
joint visit of the famous meteorite collection there on display in hall V.

We had the great pleasure to attend a guided tour led by the curator of the 
collection, Dr. Franz Brandstaetter, especially arranged for our group of 
meteorite enthusiasts a few weeks in advance.

The tour of hall V was very instructive, both regarding the history of the 
meteorite collection as a whole and the very special history of some selected 
meteorites, like e. g. Hraschina or Ybbsitz, just to name two of many specimen 
that Dr. Brandstaetter had individual stories to tell about.

My fellow countryman and collector friend Heiner Thiel, who was part of our 
group, made a movie on this occasion, which he just uploaded to YouTube for 
your viewing pleasure. As he can not post to the list at the moment, he asked 
me to post the info for him.

The film caught quite a bit of the great "atmosphere" of this gorgeous 
exhibition place. Well, folks, have a look – and enjoy:

Part onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNV4CMsm3Xc
Part twohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMkP_xjaJnE

Best,
Alex
Berlin/Germany
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Re: [meteorite-list] Secret BLM maps

[Alexander Seidel]

> It should be a surprise to no one that rangers are asking more and more 
> questions, and that the laws are being tightened.


I experienced the same thing on the Canarian island of Lanzarote recently, 
where I talked to several rangers of the National Park there about the means of 
protection of the (volcanic) islands natural treasures. They had their very own 
but anyway true arguments ("...if everyone of the about 2 mio annual tourists 
here on the island would take away just one bigger olivine stone, what would 
you think this island would look like in just a couple of years?"). I can 
understand that. 

So always be careful what you do, and know the rules in the fields. In our 
lifes we are here only for a couple of decades, but natural things need to be 
preserved. With our lifes we have different, much smaller scales of time than 
nature has to develop, which has always to be kept in mind.

Alex 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Asteroid orbital evolution

[Alexander Seidel]

Excellent explanation by Rob M (..as we are used to always get from  
him..)!


Cheers,
Alex

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 15.10.2010 um 18:43 schrieb "Matson, Robert D." >:



Hi Bob and List,


When I give presentations to groups about meteorites, I often get

asked this
question, "After all this time, what would cause an asteroid to  
depart

from
its orbital confines in the "asteroid belt" and to end up crossing  
the

Earth's orbit?"



Now I can give a graphical answer by pointing to the (new) images in

this

most recent article:







(Massive collision between two asteroids 90 million miles from Earth
caught
on camera for first time)

While collisions in the Main Belt provide a potential mechanism for
producing
asteroids in earth-crossing orbits, this is not the main source of
near-earth
asteroids. Usually, Main Belt inter-asteroid collision velocities are
quite
slow (a few hundred meters per second), which is far too low a delta-V
to
transform a Main Belt orbit into a planet-crossing one.

The real delivery mechanism is orbital resonance, the most efficient  
of

which is the nu-6 secular resonance. (When the Greek letter nu is
transcribed
to English, you'll usually see this resonance written as v6.)

The v6 resonance zone is at a distance of roughly 2 a.u., and the most
likely asteroid family to inject asteroids into the v6 resonance is  
the

well-populated Flora family. Once in the v6 resonance zone, the
eccentricity
of an asteroid's orbit starts to get "pumped up": as the centuries go
by,
the orbit shape becomes less circular and instead more elongated. The
asteroid's perihelion progressively decreases from 2 a.u., to 1.9,  
1.8,

1.7 and so on, while its most distant point from the sun progressively
increases (2.1, 2.2, etc.)  Eventually, the perihelion has decreased  
so

much that the asteroid crosses Mars' orbit (mean distance 1.52 a.u.),
possibly even impacting Mars itself, or getting flung by Mars' gravity
into an even more eccentric orbit that crosses that of earth. This
series of events is the main way that meteorites are delivered
to earth. To summarize:

1. Inter-asteroid collisions in the Main Belt produce asteroids with
orbits that evolve into Flora-like orbits (inner Main Belt)

2. Further collisions or perturbations of inner Main Belt objects
nudges them into the nearby v6 secular resonance.

3. v6 secular resonance operates quickly (roughly a million
years), transforming the orbit into a Mars-crossing one.

4. One or more close encounters with Mars further perturb the
orbit into an earth-crossing one.

5. Eventually the earth-crossing asteroid and the earth itself
happen to be at the same place at the same time and voila:
meteorites!

The most common meteorites on earth (L chondrites, representing
38% of all meteorites) are believed to have come directly from
the Flora family.

--Rob
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Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?

[Alexander Seidel]

Astronomy, observational (still to buy a real good telescope)
Astronomy, theoretical (my professional beginnings with a thesis)

Meteorite hardware, the real stuff (my passion for decades)
Meteorite thin sections, the glass thing (my passion since 1992)
Meteorite books, the many-pages-thing (my younger passion)

Travelling (my all-time-passion) 
Satellite observing (hobby with 2 COSPAR stations 1969 - 1990s, now over)

Good food, liquid: especially all sorts of beer, and single malt whiskies
Good food, non-liquid: all local specialities, preferred mediterranean

Feeling more sort of a lazy bone than a work-aholic, yet loving the job..

My wife Silvia, our dog Ronja, my cat Trixi - well you can´t really call
these a hobby, rather they are an essential part of your own life

(...and sometimes hard labo(u)r), yes!)

:-)
Alex
Berlin/Germany  







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Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...

[Alexander Seidel]

You´re bound and determined for a diet, Martin???

Of course - jokes put aside - you´re right, as (almost) 
always: those precious things called meteorites are 
mostly undervalued compared to that. Well, no I would
not really call diamonds dog stuff either..

But then again just put it in a perspective of available
quantity (in comparison to natural diamonds etc), and the 
clockwork of argument begins to work.

:-)

And my dear collector friend John Kashuba and other thin
section lovers will certainly agree, that looking at a 
beautifully prepared thin section of any such rarity can 
be a most satisfactory and rewarding personal experience 
in one of those quiet hours that you are willing to 
personally and intimatelly share with mother nature, 
right, John?

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:46:38 +0200
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...

> No Alex, cause:
> 
> Ureilites are forever.
> 
> Tiffanys!
> 
> http://johnkashuba.com/Ach_Dhofar%20979%20Ureilite.html
> 
> 
> Cartier!
> 
> http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/Images/NWA-2651.jpg
> 
> 
> Black Star!
> 
> http://encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/test/36592_6731_2587.jpg
> 
> 
> Frost Gorom?
> 
> http://www.daviddarling.info/images/ureilite.jpg
> 
> 
> I don't need rhinestones!
> 
> http://www.dancewithshadows.com/society/images/koh-i-noor-diamond.jpg
> 
> 
> ;-)
> Martin
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Alexander 
> Seidel
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. September 2010 20:27
> An: Kashuba; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...
> 
> 
> > And diamonds it would . . .
> 
> 
> Oh, by the way, just thinking of "that" famous movie: 
> would those diamonds then be "..a girl´s best friend"??
> 
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
> > bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:58 AM
> > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...
> > 
> > of a translation:
> > 
> > Annonce:
> > 
> > Ein Hündchen wird gesuchet, 
> > Das weder murrt noch beißt, 
> > Zerbrochene Gläser frißt 
> > Und Diamanten...
> > 
> > 
> > Advertisement:
> >  
> > Looking for a doggie
> > One that doesn't snarl nor bite
> > Broken glass I would feed
> > And diamonds it would sh...
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Bernd
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...

[Alexander Seidel]

Sorry, I forgot to add the source, here it is: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZtGybjFjOU
Now tell me what you think of your neighbour´s 
dog in the modern context! Well, forget Goethe
for a second... :-)

Alex
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> Datum: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:26:44 +0200
> Von: "Alexander Seidel" 
> An: "Kashuba" , 
> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...

> 
> > And diamonds it would . . .
> 
> 
> Oh, by the way, just thinking of "that" famous movie: 
> would those diamonds then be "..a girl´s best friend"??
> 
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of
> > bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:58 AM
> > To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...
> > 
> > of a translation:
> > 
> > Annonce:
> > 
> > Ein Hündchen wird gesuchet, 
> > Das weder murrt noch beißt, 
> > Zerbrochene Gläser frißt 
> > Und Diamanten...
> > 
> > 
> > Advertisement:
> >  
> > Looking for a doggie
> > One that doesn't snarl nor bite
> > Broken glass I would feed
> > And diamonds it would sh...
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...

[Alexander Seidel]

> And diamonds it would . . .


Oh, by the way, just thinking of "that" famous movie: 
would those diamonds then be "..a girl´s best friend"??

Alex
Berlin/Germany



> -Original Message-
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> bernd.pa...@paulinet.de
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:58 AM
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Modest attempt ...
> 
> of a translation:
> 
> Annonce:
> 
> Ein Hündchen wird gesuchet, 
> Das weder murrt noch beißt, 
> Zerbrochene Gläser frißt 
> Und Diamanten...
> 
> 
> Advertisement:
>  
> Looking for a doggie
> One that doesn't snarl nor bite
> Broken glass I would feed
> And diamonds it would sh...
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bernd
> 
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[meteorite-list] Fwd: Re: Book Question "Atlas of Meteorites"

[Alexander Seidel]

...and pretty much ENHANCED, of course! Btw: the last issue seems 
to be sold out, and is quite expensive on the "used books" market!
So this new one will be very welcome...

Alex
Berlin/Germany


 Original-Nachricht 
Datum: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:24:06 +0200
Von: "Alexander Seidel" 
An: "Martin Altmann" , 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Book Question  "Atlas of Meteorites"

Well, perhaps nothing but a new pre-planned issue of the old famous so-called 
"Blue Book", the Catalogue of Meteorites, but under a new title. And no earlier 
than 2012, as I just learned...

Alex
Berlin/Germany




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> Datum: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:49:45 +0200
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Book Question  "Atlas of Meteorites"

> Hi there,
> 
> has anyone already read already the new book:
> 
> Atlas of Meteorites,
> by Pratesi, Cecchi, Grady  ?
> 
> Cambridge University Press
> (ISBN 9780521840354)
> 
> How is it?
> 
> Description reads very promising.
> 
> "The Atlas of Meteorites is a complete visual reference for meteorite
> classification. Following an introductory chapter, the book contains one
> chapter on each main class of meteorite. The main characteristics of each
> class are described, including mineralogical, chemical and isotopic data.
> Fully labelled, colour optical micrograph images of thin and thick
> sections
> of meteorites show the mineralogical and textural characteristics of each
> class. The book contains a CD-ROM with additional meteorite images and
> data,
> including video clips showing meteorites during stage rotation. This is an
> invaluable reference for academic researchers, graduate students, and
> professional meteorite collectors and dealers."
> 
> And where is it available?
> 
> Thanks and Best!
> Martin
> 
>  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Book Question "Atlas of Meteorites"

[Alexander Seidel]

Well, perhaps nothing but a new pre-planned issue of the old famous so-called 
"Blue Book", the Catalogue of Meteorites, but under a new title. And no earlier 
than 2012, as I just learned...

Alex
Berlin/Germany




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> Datum: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 14:49:45 +0200
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Book Question  "Atlas of Meteorites"

> Hi there,
> 
> has anyone already read already the new book:
> 
> Atlas of Meteorites,
> by Pratesi, Cecchi, Grady  ?
> 
> Cambridge University Press
> (ISBN 9780521840354)
> 
> How is it?
> 
> Description reads very promising.
> 
> "The Atlas of Meteorites is a complete visual reference for meteorite
> classification. Following an introductory chapter, the book contains one
> chapter on each main class of meteorite. The main characteristics of each
> class are described, including mineralogical, chemical and isotopic data.
> Fully labelled, colour optical micrograph images of thin and thick
> sections
> of meteorites show the mineralogical and textural characteristics of each
> class. The book contains a CD-ROM with additional meteorite images and
> data,
> including video clips showing meteorites during stage rotation. This is an
> invaluable reference for academic researchers, graduate students, and
> professional meteorite collectors and dealers."
> 
> And where is it available?
> 
> Thanks and Best!
> Martin
> 
>  
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?

[Alexander Seidel]

Hi Melanie,

could you please explain to me/us European(s) in a bit more detail, why you 
think this is so down there in ole Mexico?

On a sidenote: I heard and read from some European visitors of the latest 
Tucson show that people use(d) to walk around there with guns ´n weapons for 
their own protection. Is that just "normal practice" down South or elsewhere in 
the country?

Well, nothing but just a question 

Alex




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> Datum: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:19:37 -0700 (PDT)
> Von: Melanie Matthews 
> An: Adam Hupe , Adam 
> 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?

> Northern Mexico (were the deserts are) would be quite a dangerous place to
> hunt 
> meteorites. 
> 
> 
>  ---
> -Melanie
> IMCA: 2975
> eBay: metmel2775
> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
> 
> I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message 
> From: Adam Hupe 
> To: Adam 
> Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:03:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites, TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
> 
> I think they will BE.  As most scientists and knowledgeable collectors
> will tell 
> 
> you, a meteorite doesn't care where it lands.  I think they will be
> greater 
> appreciated when the economy gets better and there is very little left to
> argue 
> about.  They are not mere commodities as some would like you to think and
> they 
> are not a readily renewable resource.  I feel it was very fortunate for
> them to 
> fall in Northwest Africa where the climate preserves them well and the
> world's 
> best recovery team was there to collect them. The gold rush has been over
> for 
> some time reaching its pinnacle a few years ago.  It is time to find the
> next 
> plateau, will it be the Mojave or Mexico? 
> 
> 
> 
> Happy Collecting.
> 
> Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] Flattest Complete Meteorite

[Alexander Seidel]

Wow, that´s what´s called a flat one! The Hupés sell ´em?

SCNR, good result!
Alex

 
> The flattest complete meteorite in my meteorite collection
> is the 3.1-gram Al Mahbas pallasite individual I purchased
> from the Hupés. It measures 1.97 x 1.78 x 0.53 cm.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Anne Black & IMCA (was NWA 6292 2.110 gram)

[Alexander Seidel]

That was very well stated, Charley! All of the people
on the IMCA board are very honorable persons, without 
any doubt, and I am glad I happen to know some of them 
in person. 

Hats off to that folks, who have done and do a lot for 
the collector and dealer community, in a most positive 
sense! No one should forget: they volunteer for that, 
and they are elected on a regular, annual basis, by
quite a lot of members, so there is absolutely nothing 
wrong about that, as some recent posts to the list
unfortunately may have suggested...

Alex
Berlin/Germany
"Old hound" as a collector, IMCA #0042




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> Datum: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 18:16:38 -0400
> Von: "Charley" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Anne Black & IMCA   (was NWA 6292 2.110 gram)

> Hi Martin,
> 
> Thank you for expressing so well what I beleive many of us (IMCA and 
> non-IMCA members alike) feel about Anne and IMCA.
> 
> I have known Anne (via email and phone) for several years and feel we have
> become good friends. She has always been very helpful to me,
> answering questions and connecting me with people that could offer 
> assistance in a project I am researching. She and I (and Norbert Classen
> as 
> well)
> have had a number of email exchanges about meteorites and also
> non-meteorite 
> related issues. When I happened to mention to Anne that I was going
> to do a meteorite presentation at the local middle school, she immediately
> offerered to donate a book to the class!
> 
> For reasons unknown to me, the list occasionally sees someone go off about
> IMCA and how corrupt it is. I've been a member for several years and have 
> never
> seen any evidence of anything that was dishonest on the part of any IMCA 
> board person or member. I have seen several occasions where people made 
> accusations
> against IMCA that are unfounded (and often shown to be unfounded by Anne) 
> but , oddly enough, the accusers never apologize (at least publically)
> when 
> shown that
> their comments are simply not true .
> 
> I am proud to consider Anne & Norbert my friends and I am proud to be a 
> member of  IMCA. If people choose not to join, that is their right.  They
> do 
> not have the right
> to slander or libel good people based on "stories" they are told off list.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Charley Butterfield
> IMCA 6123
> 
> 
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:42:01 +0200
> > From: "Martin Altmann" 
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 6292 2.110 gram
> > To: 
> > Message-ID: <000901cb404b$f0f36940$d2da3b...@de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Carl,
> >
> > yes, probably you better shouldn't have pressed the "send" button.
> >
> > Neither you, Barry.
> >
> > Of course everyone is free to express his opinion,
> > but the form it happened in, is not acceptable.
> >
> > Here you have the list archives:
> > http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html
> >
> > There you will find not a single posting by Anne, where she would have
> > insulted any person.
> > And certainly Dr.Jambon feels not insulted by her.
> >
> > On contrary, in a silly brawl about possible pairings of stones, silly,
> > because they still are in the totally normal process of classification -
> > caused by the impatience of some list-members,
> > she called on the list-members to do that, what one could expect from
> any
> > mature meteorite collector,
> > to demonstrate the patience necessary and to wait until the results of
> > the analyses will be ready.
> > And furthermore she got committed to exchange samples of the questioned
> > stones, between the scientists involved in the classification processes,
> > which in the end now seems to work, so that the matter can be solved by
> > scientific criteria to the full satisfaction of all interested in that
> > question.
> >
> >> Ann Black has made of a chance for a legitimate
> >
> > I tell you Barry, what Anne has made.
> >
> > As co-founder of the IMCA she made the meteoritic world a safer place
> for
> > everyone, also for you, introducing new standards into the meteorite
> > trade, which got more and more widely accepted.
> > And she created with IMCA a contact point for conflict resolution for
> > participants in meteoritics
> > and a place for advice in meteoritic questions and a source of
> > information about meteorites.
> >
> > And that open to everyone and that free of charge for everyone.
> >
> > And like the other founders of IMCA, she did this in thousands of
> > working-hours absolutely unpaid.
> >
> >
> > That is certainly more, than to type an imprudent mail in the head of a
> > moment - lock, stock and barrel condemning everything, what one even
> > doesn't know,
> > and to attack with inacceptable wordings a person, to whom the meteorite
> > community owes respect and gratitude
> > for that, what she has achieved for that community.
> >
> > Everyone is free to dislike and to criticize IMCA,
> > but I think

Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?

[Alexander Seidel]

Don´t forget, folks, that once upon a time, which in fact is not way to 
long ago (only just a bit more than a decade or so right now) lunar or martian 
meteorites were simply unavailable on the private market. And when the first 
lunar, DaG 262, was available from the sawblade of the finder, the price even 
for saw dust was absolutely unpayable, and then when DaG 400 (some time after) 
appeared on the market, courtesy of Blaine Reed and through channels of a 
certain German gentleman, if I remember correctly, the first asking price was 
very high up somewhere in the 20-thousands-range dollars a gram.

Listees, don´t forget - we live in "golden times" with those planetary 
meteorites and other rare stuff even today, while prices are clearly increasing 
now for top Lunars or Martians, and the other rare ones, as people get more 
interested in meteorites but supply, on the other hand, is limited.

P.S.: I still remember, how difficult it was for a type collector to get even 
an LL4 in the old, pre-NWA-days, e.g. in the mid-Ninetees! Some of my 
colleagues, who have been in the hobby for an even longer time than me, may 
second what I said. The NWA rush has changed it all ever since, and I do not 
hesitate to add: at good terms for both the private collector and the 
scientist! Though there seem to be other lines of thought here and there now, 
fired by the media...

Just a few quick comments from an old hound in the hobby.
Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:25:16 -0400
> Von: "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" 
> An: countde...@earthlink.net
> CC: Meteorite List 
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?

> Hi Count, Melanie and List,
> 
> Several months ago, I saw a small crumb of Honolulu sell for $400 on
> eBay.  I don't recall how much it weighed, but it could not have been
> more than 50mg.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> MikeG
> 
> 
> On 8/10/10, countde...@earthlink.net  wrote:
> > Melanie asked "What is the most expensive per gram...?"
> >
> >
> > Gram sized and larger individual specimens of NWA 5000, Nakhla,
> Shergotty
> > and Chassigny, just to name four planetaries, have brought up to $4,000
> a
> > gram depending on attractivness of size, weight, shape, lithology,
> fusion
> > crust, preparation and documented provenance.
> >
> > Count Deiro
> > IMCA 3536
> >
> > -Original Message-
> >>From: Melanie Matthews 
> >>Sent: Aug 10, 2010 1:38 PM
> >>To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
> >>Cc: Meteorite List 
> >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?
> >>
> >>Wow,, and the Sylacauga Hodges stone is just an ordinary chondrite.. Can
> >> you
> >>imagine if it were a rare achondrite or a Planetary meteorite, with a
> >> limited
> >>amount available to collectors?! @_@
> >>
> >>
> >> ---
> >>-Melanie
> >>IMCA: 2975
> >>eBay: metmel2775
> >>Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
> >>
> >>I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>- Original Message 
> >>From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks 
> >>To: Melanie Matthews 
> >>Cc: Meteorite List 
> >>Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:29:53 AM
> >>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive meteorite per gram?
> >>
> >>I once paid $100 for 1mg of the Sylacauga Hodges stone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 8/10/10, Melanie Matthews  wrote:
> >>> Good evening/morning all
> >>> What is the most expensive meteorite per gram, to date? The Lunar
> >>> Calcalong
> >>> Creek? After that which ones are next in line?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  ---
> >>> -Melanie
> >>> IMCA: 2975
> >>> eBay: metmel2775
> >>> Known on SkyRock Cafe as SpaceCollector09
> >>>
> >>> I eat, sleep and breath meteorites 24/7.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>
> >>Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone & Ironworks Meteorites
> >>http://www.galactic-stone.com
> >>http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [meteorite-list] work of art cleaning meteorite see the diffrence

[Alexander Seidel]

> a sandblaster to make a very oxidised meteorite brand new  
> very fresh like it fell yesterday


"Very fresh like it fell yesterday" ... ???

Why should you do this to a meteorite that in actual fact *did not* fall 
yesterday? "Lifting" may be cool for some human divas, but is the same true for 
those old meteorites? Shouldn´t we respect them "as they are", and preserve 
them that way? On the other hand, of course I am well aware that´s a matter of 
perspective, but in this case I just wouldn´t have used that big tool from the 
cleaning park... :-)

Just my two cents on that,
Alex
Berlin/Germany 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Zaouia el Hajoui

[Alexander Seidel]

Gorgeous, fantastic piece and quite a good story - congrats!

Alex
Berlin/Germany



 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Sat,  7 Aug 2010 04:10:04 -0400 (EDT)
> Von: Philippe Thomas 
> An: meteorite list 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Zaouia el Hajoui

> Hello all,
> 
> We are proud to announce the find of an exceptional oriented meteorite.
> 
> Here are links for photos and information:
> 
> http://www.meteoritica.com/zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm
> http://www.meteoritica.com/hunting%20zaouia%20el%20hajoui.htm
> 
> Enjoy!
> 
> Philippe & Lea
> METEORITICA
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Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!

[Alexander Seidel]

Most of all enjoy the flavo(u)r and a real good and long after-taste...
No, not "murchisonally" speaking! :-)

Yours very truly,
Alex


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> Datum: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:35:58 +0200
> Von: "Matthias Bärmann" 
> An: "Martin Altmann" , 
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!

> Prepare a fine Darjeeling first flush tgop tea. Wait half an hour.
> 
> Put several icecube-sized meteorites in a glass vessel (important: the 
> meteorites should be fresh, directly imported from space!). Pour the 
> Darjeeling on the meteorites.
> 
> Add some scale cubes and stir thoroughly. Done.
> 
> P.S. Achondrites fine; chondritic material will do in case of need; 
> planetary delicious.
> 
> Matthias
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Martin Altmann" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 8:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!
> 
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> has anyone here a recipe for the perfect iced tea for me?
> 
> Many thanks!
> Martin
> Munich/Bavaria (beer is really no good idea at all at such temperatures.)
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von
> Alexander Seidel
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 2010 18:16
> An: Adam Hupe; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!
> 
> Hello list,
> 
> here in Berlin we had and actually still have temps in the 33-37 deg C
> ranges, which roughly translates to the mid-90s degrees on the Fahrenheit
> scale. This is already felt to be "unusually hot" summer weather for a
> typical Central European, and, even more, felt to be quite uncomfortable
> if
> it is sticky and muggy in addition. Air Conditioners in locations like
> hotels etc. are by far not a matter of course like in the U.S., where you
> will find them everywhere, except perhaps for the Southern European
> countries like Italy and Spain, where it gets hotter than in the Central
> parts of the good ole continent.
> 
> Americans are sometimes surprised, when they come to visit us. If you
> intend
> to do so for the first time, and are well accustomed to A/C, then better
> ask
> the hotel staff before booking whether the location offers air
> conditioning
> or not. The more expensive hotels will almost certainly do, but you can
> never be sure in the medium price ranges, where in the worst case, you
> will
> have to suffer hard like e. g. at the old La Couronne hotel in
> Ensisheim/France in the past years (which btw. is now closed)...
> 
> Alex
> Berlin/Germany
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Strewnfield Map

[Alexander Seidel]

Perfect example of excellent interdisciplinary work and obviously good personal 
relations with the friendly people at that location - well done, and good for 
preserving a relevant info for future generations!

My hat goes off...
Alex
Berlin/Germany


 
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> Datum: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:26:10 -0700
> Von: Meteorites USA 
> An: Meteorite-list 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] WI Meteorite Strewnfield Map

> Hi List,
> 
> As promised, the WI Strewnfield Map has been listed on my site and is 
> available for viewing and download.
> http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorite-articles/wisconsin-meteorite-strewnfield-map/
> 
> Special thanks go out to all those who've contributed to help build the 
> most accurate publicly available map of the Wisconsin meteorite 
> strewnfield known to date. More importantly, special thanks and 
> appreciation to all the WI landowners who were so gracious and kind to 
> allow us to hunt. Without them the compilation of data gathered would 
> not be possible.
> 
> Enjoy...
> 
> Regards,
> Eric Wichman
> Meteorites USA
> http://www.meteoritesusa.com
> Meteorite Hunting & Collecting Magazine
> http://www.mhcmagazine.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!

[Alexander Seidel]

Hello list,

here in Berlin we had and actually still have temps in the 33-37 deg C ranges, 
which roughly translates to the mid-90s degrees on the Fahrenheit scale. This 
is already felt to be "unusually hot" summer weather for a typical Central 
European, and, even more, felt to be quite uncomfortable if it is sticky and 
muggy in addition. Air Conditioners in locations like hotels etc. are by far 
not a matter of course like in the U.S., where you will find them everywhere, 
except perhaps for the Southern European countries like Italy and Spain, where 
it gets hotter than in the Central parts of the good ole continent. 

Americans are sometimes surprised, when they come to visit us. If you intend to 
do so for the first time, and are well accustomed to A/C, then better ask the 
hotel staff before booking whether the location offers air conditioning or not. 
The more expensive hotels will almost certainly do, but you can never be sure 
in the medium price ranges, where in the worst case, you will have to suffer 
hard like e. g. at the old La Couronne hotel in Ensisheim/France in the past 
years (which btw. is now closed)...

Alex
Berlin/Germany 
  

  
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> Datum: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:36:42 -0700 (PDT)
> Von: Adam Hupe 
> An: Adam 
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Be Careful - It is hot!

> Dear List Members,
> 
> For those who are thinking about hunting the Mojave this time of year, be 
> prepared to hunt at night when it cools down to around 100 degrees. They
> never 
> report accurate temperatures on the news here in the Summer because it is
> bad 
> for tourism.  There is only one temperature gauge that is not buried
> underground 
> in the Laughlin/Bullhead City area and it read an astonishing 130 degrees 
> yesterday at 1:30 pm, not even the hottest part of the day which is around
> 4:00 
> pm.   The sign was in the shade so I can only imagine how hot it would be
> in the 
> sun.  My engine temperature gauge was registering 140 degrees before I
> even 
> started the "cold" engine that had not been run since the day before!
> 
> Image of sign I passed yesterday at 1:30 pm:
> http://themeteoritesite.com/130Degrees.jpg
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Adam
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Re: [meteorite-list] More photoshopped moon landing sites

[Alexander Seidel]

Great link, Sterling, thank you! I still have some of the original
printed NASA "Lunar Surface Procedures" at home, sent to me by NASA
40 years ago. And one can add a very nice hi-res photo of the Apollo 
11 site these days from a modern Lunar orbiter, where you can easily
resolve several details of the sketch which is shown in your forwarded
link. I don´t have that photo link at hands, but it may be easily found 
on the net.

Thanks again,
Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:24:26 -0500
> Von: "Sterling K. Webb" 
> An: cyna...@charter.net, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] More photoshopped moon landing sites

> NASA's history website has maps of all the
> landing sites with the walks clearly marked.
> The one I like is of Apollo 11 (not 16) compared
> with a major leagie basefield:
> http://history.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/A11vsMLB.gif
> 
> The first foothold on the Moon is a tiny, tiny
> patch, that fits neatly into a basefield field.
> ("If you build it, you can get there), although it
> is clearly a fabrication of Lunar Believerists!
> 
> The one thing I'm sure of is that Kevin Costner
> and Shoeless Joe Jackson never shagged a ball
> there...
> 
> 
> 
> Sterling K. Webb
> --
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Darren Garrison" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 11:40 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] More photoshopped moon landing sites
> 
> 
> > Will those lunar landing believerists stop at nothing with their 
> > conspiracy?
> >
> >
> http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/07/14/apollo-16-site-snapped-from-orbit/#more-18636
> >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric tons!?!?

[Alexander Seidel]

With an info like this - "A total of about 1600 kg of iron meteorite shrapnel 
(thousands of pieces), ranging in mass from < 1 to 35,000 g, plus a single 83 
kg individual completely covered with well developed regmaglypts, was found in 
and around the 45 m diameter Kamil impact crater by an Italian-Egyptian 
geophysical team in February 2009 and February 2010" - shouldn´t we be a bit 
more patient and careful at this very early point after the discovery and quite 
early publication? I expect much more clearness at the taxonomic horizon once 
e.g. parts of that 83 kg individual or others will have been analyzed one of 
these days. And with a crater *THAT* large much more material may surface and 
be recovered as time goes by, and analysis may well be refined to some definite 
point. Just a matter of time and patience, right...??

Alex
Berlin/Germany


  
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> Datum: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:48:03 -0400
> Von: Jeff Grossman 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Gebel Kamil iron is official now - 1.6 metric 
> tons!?!?

> "Ataxite" is a structural term, like octahedrite and hexahedrite.  
> Modern classification of iron meteorites is based on the chemical group, 
> which can tell you something about the parent asteroid.  The structural 
> classification is quasi-independent of the chemical classification, 
> inasmuch as members of each structural group can belong to multiple 
> chemical groups.  So "ataxite" has not been replaced with "iron, 
> ungrouped."  Both are correct.
> 
> When I used to edit MetBull, the heading on the description of this 
> meteorite would have said "Iron, ataxite (ungrouped)", but other editors 
> have abandoned this.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On 7/12/2010 9:48 PM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > The new Egyptian iron is now official and in the Met Bulletin
> > database.  Notice the TKW!  1.6 metric tons!  That is a lot of
> > fragments.
> >
> > Also notice the classification type - iron ungrouped.  Not "ataxite".
> > Although the write-up does say the meteorite shows an "ataxitic
> > structure".
> >
> > http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/metbull.php?code=52031
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > MikeG
> >
> > 
> > Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone&  Ironworks Meteorites
> > http://www.galactic-stone.com
> > http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Ensisheim/Sainte Marie Photos

[Alexander Seidel]

> Greg Hupe and Darryl Pitt
> http://www.lunarrock.com/france-2010/ensisheim9.jpg


Really?? Oh, well: remarkable and attractive, guys!!
(Well, if you wish, just leave out that comma...:-))

Cheers,
Alex
Berlin/Germany

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Re: [meteorite-list] Planet Formation

[Alexander Seidel]

> So technically... and loosely speaking of course, all planets are made 
> of meteorites...


Well, look at your fingernails - that´s nothing but reworked stellar dust, if 
you take it to an extreme! Meteorites are somewhere in between... :-)

Thanks for all the links,
Alex
Berlin/Germany


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Re: [meteorite-list] Our next major source of meteorites?

[Alexander Seidel]

Didn´t someone quote "B.. rulez!" (well, I remember something like that:-)) one 
of those recent months and years, regarding the actual situation in Down Under? 
Well, may be by virtue of a well-prepared petition to the MetSoc or may be by 
some other thoughtful initiatives based on reasonable ideas, things might have 
a certain chance to change and finally turn the global vector for this issue 
spinning into an upwards position - even for this tough local case, hopefully...

Alex
Berlin/Germany



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> Datum: Tue, 11 May 2010 00:04:41 +0200
> Von: "Martin Altmann" 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Our next major source of meteorites?

> Australia.
> 
> Melanie, Australia was Eden, Mecca, El Dorado, Tara, Oh Ashley!, for
> meteorites. So it has the potential. Unfortunately it felt due a wrong
> policy into a dark age for the last 2 decades, but I'm confident, that I
> still will live to see the renaissance of Australian meteorites.
> 
> You know Melanie, I read some weeks ago the annual report of the Western
> Australia Museum of the period 2007/2008 - there it's said, that it is
> planned to enlarge the meteorite collection,
> Alas - in the same report is told, that in that period at the WA museum
> they
> worked on and finally published only ONE single new Australian meteorite.
> 
> And that isn't acceptable, that's a declaration of bankruptcy.
> 
> Researchers and scientists have always to match with the work of
> researchers
> in other countries, with colleagues of the scientific community to
> evaluate
> the quality of their work.
> And on the other hand researchers have to compete among each other for the
> financial means for their research. If such a branch of science yields
> almost no results, then sooner or later it will be abandoned, because it
> isn't justified to spent public means for these purposes.
> In Australia meteoritics maybe has survived that immense decline and
> bleeding only so long, because of its rich tradition in meteoritics. Was
> once together with USA meteorite nation #1.
> Else, like it happened in other countries, after such a long unsuccessful
> period meteoritics would have been stopped there more or less. But that
> legacy can be also a burden, because it could force the Australian
> meteoriticists to explain, why all the years before the "Dark Age" dozens
> of
> new finds were made and now less than 1 find per year and why in so many
> other countries with deserts, including USA, the find rates of new
> meteorites exploded during the very same period.
> 
> 
> Therefore I think the meteoriticists feel a certain pressure and things
> will
> turn back to reason one day. In fact, there are already some Australian
> scientists worried about, google around and you will find a proposal from
> a
> gentleman from the Bathurst Observatory to ease the legal restrictions
> regarding meteorites, so that finally there will be found some again.
> 
> The way to find back to old glory and to restore meteorite science in
> Australia is very easy, as all pre-conditions are not only existent, but
> excellent!
> I don't know the exact mechanisms regarding legislation there, whether you
> need a petition ect. to amend existing laws (and that isn't my cup of
> tea),
> but look Melanie, Australia has some very famous meteoriticists, Dr.Bevan
> for instance - and I could imagine, that he wouldn't feel comfort to leave
> Australian meteoritics behind in such a desolate estate and that he will
> feel constraint to the once so famous meteorite tradition of Australia,
> that he will put all the weight of his capacity and his name into the
> scale,
> to improve the situation in Australia, wouldn't he?
> 
> The methods are clear, and the Aussies made their experiences already,
> regarding the question, how new finds will be generated.
> Just allow finding and a fair incentive for the owner, and you'll have
> your
> meteorites.
> 
> Hunting by public financed expeditions could be somewhat too expensive,
> and
> such hunts are always somewhat limited.
> I read also a paper of one of the Euromet-hunts in Australia some weeks
> ago.
> (Had no internet connetion for some days, would have to search it again,
> don't know at the moment, whether it was 1993, was that one with Bevan,
> Koeberl et al.)
> There they were going in the known strewnfields, for training, found
> 7.5kgs
> of Mundrabillas, 5 pounds of Millbillillies, a few Mulga-chondrites - and
> then they found additionally 3kg new OCs or so.
> Euromet, Melanie, was a consortium of European universities with the
> objective to recover new meteorites.
> Well, only the annual costs for personnel were around 20 millions of
> today's
> USD. - well, you know, a Mundrabilla of the private sector costs today
> 0.5$-3.5$/g (rough specimen - perfectly brilliant etch) and a
> Millbillillie
> 5-15$/g (depending on size and quality) - btw. meteorites where export
> clearances are avail

Re: [meteorite-list] Tally of WI fall masses

[Alexander Seidel]

Most interesting, Robert, thank you! Then again, there may be a lot of 
(unknown) people who have not reported their grand totals in finds so far, and 
last but not least I imagine quite a big load of stones may still be resting 
there in that supposedly long strewn field, awaiting their finder one of these 
days...

>From my (geographically far-away) point of perspective, what I found 
>especially nice to read was that the cooperation with the farmers seems to be 
>good. The people there in Wisconsin seem to be friendly, and so it generally 
>seems to be an overall good hunting atmosphere. Which, while reading all those 
>different posts, does not in any case (unfortunately), but should generally 
>reflect itself on this forum.

A special question: are there farmers who strictly oppose scanning their land? 
I mean, who better want to get out for a search by themselves alone and find 
something, or just opposing any search by outsiders for reasons whatever (..may 
be bad experiences with hunters on their land, or may be an attitude of not 
being interested in all of this hype?).

Seems to be a very nice brecciated meteorite visually, by the way!

Good luck to the potential finders,
Alex
Berlin/Germany

 



   
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> Datum: Tue, 4 May 2010 11:52:00 -0700
> Von: "Matson, Robert D." 
> An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Betreff: [meteorite-list] Tally of WI fall masses

> Hi All,
> 
> In the interest of trying to estimate the TKW of the SW Wisconsin fall,
> I've gone back through all the Met-List posts, RFSPOD images, newspaper
> stories, web-based articles, and anything else public I could find to
> generate a rough stone tally. Obviously this is far from a complete
> list, and in many cases I don't know the masses of particular finds --
> only that a find exists. I'm sure others here can help filling in the
> blanks, adding stones that I've missed, or correcting information where
> my data is bad or incomplete.  The finds below are alphabetical by
> finder name (when known); unknown finder names are at the end.
> 
> Steve Arnold:  176.1g
> Larry Atkins:  at least one find (Ref: RFSPD 4/25)
> Karl Aston: 160.7g
> Jim Baxter: 152g, 20g, + 1 more
> Bren (farmer's wife): ~100g
> Sonny Clary:  205.6g (Brix find), 144g, 16.8g
> Michael Cottingham: 51g (hammer)
> Mike Farmer:  131g, 36g, 20g, 17g
> Ruben Garcia: 25g, 9.2g, 7.7g, + others?
> Mark Hirsch:  at least one find
> Mark Hugill:  11g (purchased by Terry Boudreaux)
> Greg Hupe:  33.7g
> Joe Kerchner: 332g
> Bill Kies:  38g, 44g, + others
> Marvin Killgore:  ~300g
> Jackson McCluskey:  35g
> Mike Miller:  7.7g, 9.6g, + at least 2 more
> Stan (last name?): 21g
> Todd Parker: 108g
> Dave Schultz:  20g + ~25g?
> Wade (farmer):  7.5g initial hammer find sent to UW
> Robert Ward:  2 finds (masses unknown)
> Rob Wesel: 219.2g
> Eric Wichman:  14.5g, 19.9g, 18.3g, + others?
> Robert Woolard:  3.2g
> 
> Iowa-Grant schoolgirl:  1 find, mass unknown
> Sister of Ashley Liddicoat:  1 find, mass unknown
> 
> Total # of stones: 44+
> TKW of stones above w/known masses: 2539.7g
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Re: [meteorite-list] Photos of my Wisconsin Slices are up

[Alexander Seidel]

> http://illinoismeteorites.com/wisconsin_meteorite_slices.htm


Thx for posting pics, Joe. Very cool brecciation on this one!
Alex
Berlin/Germany
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