Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite
Just this morning I mailed David a check for an Estherville Mesosiderite thin section. - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite I wonder if there is anyone out there who has collected all those price lists that David New used to send to his customers via airmail - which happened in the pre-internet times, of course. I would have to dig in my old files to still find a few of them, but may be someone out there has a more complete collection of the lists, with David´s very unique description of his offered pieces, superb always being top choice! :-) Bernd, I know you have many, if not all of these in your archives, at least for as long as you collect meteorites... These lists, if they were scanned and somehow made available via the net, would be a great show example of how things were in the later second half of the last century - I would even call it sort of cultural heritage with respect to the meteorite business. I loved to communicate with David over many years, until he somehow disappeared from the (active) dealer scene and even in more recent times on a more private basis, and I hope he is still around at good health together with his wife Margaret. In the early Ninetees I once visited him at his home in Anacortes, Washington. A real gentleman, and great guy! PS: btw he was the first one to offer meteoritic thin sections to a wider public, and I am proud that most of my 150+ specimens have gone through his hands. Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 18:41:13 +0100 Von: Zelimir Gabelica [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Forestburg (b) L5 chondrite Hello Bernd, Gary, list I completely agree with Bernd regarding the aesthetics of Forestburg (b). I was lucky enough to acquire a 315 g complete slice in the old good times (1995) when such beauties were available here and there and their gram prices quite affordable. David New was, at that time, such a person, one of the most expertized meteorite dealers, a man full of knowledge, fairness, kindness and respect towards collectors. Bernd should not contradict me. Regarding that slice of Forestburg (b), David told me one day something like Zelimir, if you are a true collector, you must take that one. It was not listed for sale but rather a specific offer from David for a beginner-collector and friend. And, believe me, he did not push the sale for some profit as David first wanted our satisfaction. In this case, mine was reached beyond all my expectations and I agreed to get it without even having a preliminary idea of its aspect, except a short description, because I just trusted my friend. I have no pictures on hand to show you but here is a summary of its characteristics. It is a 150 x 70 mm full slice, 15 mm thick. Both sides are neatly polished and show a black pattern, full of metal (Fe-Ni) spots, grains and islets, along with some schreibersite patches. It nicely contrasts with the thick red-brown crust well visible all around and carrying a painted number M 148.1b (Monnig collection at TCU). I don't remember having noticed any greenish inclusion (as, e.g., in Belle Plaine or Lahoma, to cite 2 other meteorites that involve such inclusions ) but will check this later for sure. Needless to say this slice remains as one of my collection master pieces. The conclusion of this example is that sometimes one does not necessarily need some rare meteorite type to appreciate an odd pattern and that sometimes a simple L5 or H6 can offer some extraordinary fairy-like picture. I understand how Gary and Bernd did appreciate their acquisition of Forestburg (b). The other, and perhaps even more rewarding conclusion is that you can sometimes get the best of the best by just trusting a genuine friend and his expertise, if you are lucky enough to know such a person. And I am sure such people are certainly still numerous around us, within our listthey should recognize themselves... Best wishes, Zelimir A 21:46 07/01/2007 +, vous avez écrit : Hello Gary and List, I just received and photographed this very nice slice of Forestburg (b) from the Hupe Collection...and this one is just beautiful Shock stage S5, weathering grade W1; the chondrite is shock blackened and contains impact melt clasts. If you want to take a look it is here: http://www.meteorite-dealers.com/forestburg2-6.html Congratulations, Gary! Excellent choice! Anyone who hasn't seen this beauty yet, should do so. Like Gary, I am one of the happy owners of a beautiful Forestburg (b) slice. Forestburg (b) is much more handsome than Forestburg
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteors Light Up Morning Sky in Colorado
A timely cartoon - Frank Ernest, January 6, 2007 http://www.dilbert.com/comics/franknernest/archive/ - John John Kashuba Ontario, California __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Some great thin section photos: Begga, Allende,Lance, Kapoeta, more
Jeff, Jim, tett and List, Thanks for sharing. I particularly like the compound chondrules. And, of course, the Kapoeta Howardite is great. I took a few compound chondrule pictures and put them here - there are two pages: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Topics/CompoundChondrules.htm And here's Great Sand Sea 010 Howardite. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Pictures/GreatSandSea010Howardite.html - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: jeff hodges [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Some great thin section photos: Begga, Allende,Lance, Kapoeta, more Hello All, Just thought I would share a few of my better thin section photos with the list as well. My photography skills are getting a little better and some of these photos are actually pretty good. I am always looking for fellow thin section freaks to correspond with. Begga Allende Lance Murchison Kapoeta Special piece from King Collection (look and you will see why this is special) NWA 2976 with relic plagioclase grains more... http://new.photos.yahoo.com/album?c=hodgjtaid=576460762333192206pid=wtok=0RJzde17qVEMJvNxYm1.dA--ts=1162483362.src=ph#page1 Enjoy, Jeff __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who will be at Costa Mesa?
Nick, I expect it will be pretty lean, particularly since it's the weekend right after Munich. The Carions used to come sometimes but I see that Alain, at least, will be in Paris presenting at a conference during Costa Mesa. The Killgores' website mentions Denver but nothing else. Bob Jackson (Riverside) and I will be there first thing Friday as usual, drinking coffee next door at McDonalds waiting for the show to open. - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Nicholas Gessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Who will be at Costa Mesa? Does anyone know what meteorite dealers will be at Costa Mesa? Sadly, it seems there are fewer and fewer every year... I'll probably go down on Friday. Nick __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features
Pierre-Marie, Why do you ask people to register to look at the information? - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 12:07 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features Hello to the List, I'm happy to announce major improvements to the Encyclopedia of Meteorite web : - members can modify their account profile - members can create a pseudonym so they can be anonymous - statistics of your collection - statistics for each country If you're not already a member, register now, it's free ! Regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com ___ Découvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos questions quelque soit le sujet ! Yahoo! Questions/Réponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et vos expériences. http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re: Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features
Pierre-Marie, It's clear that registration is free. And you ask for contributibutions, which is fine. And you need passwords for people to work on their accounts which is certainly necessary. What I'm wondering why you want information on people before you allow them to view the Encyclopedia. - John - Original Message - From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: Encyclopedia of Meteorites : New features Hello John, I don't understand your question. Registered members can modify their own account, edit datas and create a pseudonym. It was not possible before and was asked by several members. For non members, I just wrote they can register as it's free, to enjoy the Encyclopedia... Registration is necessary in the website so that a member can't modify or delete the information of another member. It's always necessary when you program a website with a database behind. Security is important. I don't sell the information if it's what you think about ? Regards, Pierre-Marie PELE www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com ___ Découvrez un nouveau moyen de poser toutes vos questions quelque soit le sujet ! Yahoo! Questions/Réponses pour partager vos connaissances, vos opinions et vos expériences. http://fr.answers.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS
Well, he's got it laid out nicely. - John - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:58 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] LUNAR THIN SECTIONS Hi, All, Fans of thin section photos may have already found this website, but if not, you should take a look at: http://www.union.edu/PUBLIC/GEODEPT/COURSES/petrology/moon_rocks/ A very large number of Lunar thin sections, nicely photographed by Kurt Hollocher of Union College in Schenectady, NY. Beautiful stuff. Sterling K. Webb __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics
Jason and List, Thanks for sharing. I like craters. Here you may see a really small Franconia iron with nice craters that the finder was so kind to let me have: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Pages/Meteorite%20Pages/Topics/FranconiaIronCratered.htm - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Jason Utas To: Meteorite-list Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:43 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote-Alin 'Impact Pit' Pics Hello All, After a bit of work on his part, and no fewer than thirty-seven emails that did or didn't get to wherever they were supposed to go (we may never know what gets lost within the bowels of the internet...), Jeff Kuyken was able to get a number of pics of cratered Sikhotes up onto his site. They're of seven Sikhote-Alins inour collection (viz., my father's and my collection), which display pits on leading edges, trailing edges, non-oriented irons, and in a fairly wide range of sizes. Enjoy! 7.9g Oriented. Crater on trailing edge. Diameter of crater is 3mm with a depth of ~1.5mm. Upraised rim, and small bump visible in the bottom of the pit itself. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa1.jpg 54.6g Not oriented. Crater is approximately2.5mm across and about 2mm deep.Upraised rim. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa5.jpg 77.7g Not oriented. Craterhas a2mm diameter and a 1/2mm depth. Clear upraised rim. Secondbest crater of the lot. http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa3.jpghttp://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa7.jpg 17.9g Not oriented. Crater is 3mm in diameter and ~1.5-2mm deep. Thinupraised rim.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa4.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa6.jpg 21.6g Not oriented. At least 5+mm in diameter and 4mm deep. Large rim, up to 1mm thick on one side.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa8.jpg 47.4g Oriented Crater on the leading edge. The crater is 2.5mm in diameter and 1.5mm deep. Big rim, by far the best crater of the lot.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa9.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa10.jpg http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa12.jpg 101.2g Oriented, crater just off dead-center on the leading edge. Diameter = 4mm Depth = 2mm Upraised rim, small bump in the centerof the floor of the crater, visible even in this wide-shot.http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa11.jpg And here's a picture of all of the Sikhotes together; the order from left to right, back row to front. 3, 2, 1, 6, 5, 4, 7 http://www.meteorites.com.au/images/sa2.jpg Best Regards, Jason __Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re-3: [meteorite-list] Best ALH84001 Meteorite Book
List, More thin section pictures you (might have already seen) of NWA 998 Nakhlite: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_NWA_998_Nakhlite.html And d'Orbigney Angrite: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_D'Orbigny_Angrite.html - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:44 AM Subject: RE: Re-3: [meteorite-list] Best ALH84001 Meteorite Book Hello list, (Subliminal Message: I like thin sections) Jim Strope noted: Why bother dreaming about ALH84001 when you can have the next best thing...NWA 998 ( http://www.nwa998.com/ ): (Subliminal Message: Thin sections are fun to collect) Bernd replied: It's a meteorite that will leave you breathless and the 16x thin section picture I took under crossed polars rivals the colors you see when viewing ureilites, angrites, acapulcoites, and other achondritic beauties with polars crossed. (Subliminal Message: I want to collect Thin sections.) NWA 998 is one of my favorite meteorite thin sections. (It was my favorite, but now I think I like my D'Orbigney better.) A few old and not that great photographs of the meteorite thin section can be seen here. http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colnwa998.html (Subliminal Message: I am going to buy Thin sections.) Clear Skies, Mark Bostick www.meteoritearticles.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoites and NWA 725
Bernd, I don't mind at all. I think I'm with you wishing I could lean over the 'scope and think Ah, yes, heat and time makes crystals grow and chondrules disappear. Metal migrates and other stuff does too. And thereby progress in an orderly way from chondrites through these primitive achondrites. Unfortunately, it looks like there is more to it than that. In Discrimination of Acapulcoites and Lodranites from Winonaites Rumble et al. state: Combined petrological and oxygen isotopic analyses of five Northwest African primitive achondrites . . . have clarified the relationships among acapulcoites, lodranites and winonaites. It would not be possible to properly classify some specimens in these groups using their mineral compositions alone . . . . http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2005/pdf/5138.pdf To say nothing of mere appearances. I don't know what to think about Marvin's NWA 1054 Winonaite. Matteo points out that NWA 1054 is an acapulcoite. Further, I don't see the abundant 120° triple junctions mentioned in the descriptions of NWA 1054. To me it looks a lot like NWA 725 (Tissemoumine). The differences I see under the microscope aren't very subtle. Nor are they orderly. Please see these examples. The fields of view are all the same, three and a half millimeters from left to right. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach%20Acapulcoites_and_Winonaites.html Regards, - John John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Acapulcoites and NWA 725 I'm must be missing something. What could one conclude by comparing thin sections of NWA 725 and a known winonaite? I understand that distinguishing among acapulcoites, lodranites and winonaites is not a textural exercise nor can they be resolved by just their mineral composition. Hello John and List, I thought other list members might also be interested in this thread, so I hope you don't mind me sending this mail to the List as well. No, you are not missing anything. Hand samples of acapulcoites, lodranites and winonaites look pretty much the same tan color (at least to me). Only the micro- scope will reveal their subtle textural differences and only a thin section in polarized light will show mineralogical differences or differences in grain size. Unortunately I still don't have a thin section of an acapulcoite but the one pictured in Marvin Killgore's Color Atlas of Meteorites in Thin Section on pages 208-211 (Acapulco) surely looks different than the winonaite on pages 232-235 (NWA 1054). Something readily noticed is grain-size: The grains in winonaites are usually smaller than in acapulcoites. I know, unfortunately their grain sizes overlap as a comparative overview on p. 252 of Hutchison (Meteorites: A Petrologic, Chemical, and Isotopic Syn- thesis ) shows. To make matters even worse: almost all cited properties overlap :-( Maybe the amount of troilite in NWA 725 could help here. According to Hutchison, acapulcoites have 3-6 vol% FeS whereas winoaites have 1-19 %. The mineral composition of NWA 725 may also be useful in determining whether it is a winonaite or an acapulcoite. Olivine Fo and orthopyroxene En have (slightly) higher values in winonaites, and the same is valid for plagioclase An. Unfortunately both acapulcoites and winonaites can have relict chondrules, so this doesn't help either. But what may help is the fact that winonaites are more depleted in 16-O and so plot closer to the terrestrial fractionation line than acapulcoites. Well, you are right ... a thin section will not disclose such information so I can only repeat what I already mentioned above: grain size and visual appearance of thin sections of winonaites and acapulcoites - they just look different to me and Hutchison also states: The winonaites are texturally similar to acapulcoites, but the winonaites contain coarser grains and abundant crosscutting metal-sulfide veins. So, maybe, the grain size of NWA 725 visible under the microscope does hold a clue ... Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Adam's NWA 2989 Acapulcoite
Here are some quick thin section pictures of NWA 2871 Acapulcoite (NWA 2989, 2656, 2714, 2866, 2699). http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_NWA_2871_Acapulcoite.html John Kashuba Ontario, California __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Friends page photos
to boot adv phr fr 1000s [fr Old English, as profit] New Dictionary of American Slang - Robert L. Chapman, Ph.D. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Friends page photos Greetings all, Another 10 photos and 2 upgrades are now up on the Meteorite Friends page. This was quite a haul, with several hard to get and much requested people finally showing up. A special thanks goes to Martin Horejsi who, besides for submitting his own photo, was interacting in person with Ron Baalke and managed to get permission for me by proxy AND even took a completely current photo of Ron to boot (anyone know the origin of to boot?). In addition, the ever elusive Mexico Doug who does not care for that moniker by the way, can now be seen - complete with el cabesa de un Vaca Muerta. Since he does not care for his list name (it is only because of his email ID, which seamed better than something like doug897) said nickname is not indicated, but you will have no trouble finding him. We also now have a good many European list members up. We are a diverse, handsome and in some cases, beautiful group, so, if you haven't visited in a while, you might want to go to: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/MeteoriteFriends.html I still try to look up some people posting to the list who haven't sent in a jpg yet, so, please don't keep us in suspense, send 'm in. Best wishes, Michael -- He is not a lover who does not love forever. - Euripides (485-406BC) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang
Mark, Michael and List, It was Lot 8084, 910 grams with an estimate of $18,000 to $22,000. http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USAscreen=lotdetailsNoFlashiSaleItemNo=2651951iSaleNo=13327sServer=http://images2.bonhams.com/sPath=2005-10/10/7153424-48-1.jpg# It does not show on the Sale Results page. http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=USAscreen=ResultsXMLiSaleNo=13327 Bob Jackson and I handled the slice at the preview. It was very heavily coated. On the back side at one edge there was a small area of discoloration that might have been rust creeping along under the clear coat. Do we know yet if this is a ruster? John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:46 AM Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang I wonder why it did not sell at Butterfields, where movie stars attend auctions? If I remember correctly it was estimated to sell at $20 per gram. I wonder how high the highest bid was, since it did not meet reserve? Mark From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:33:08 -0700 It did not sell. It was poorly prepared and overpriced. Michael Farmer - Original Message - From: Mark Rexburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: RE: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang How much did the piece that was in Butterfields auction earlier this month sell for? I think it was about a Kilogram but I lost the link that was posted. Mark From: Andreas Gren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:26:33 +0100 Hi List, Hi Marcin, there were slices at Eger Spacrocks and one Table with 8-12 pieces in the 500 to 1000 g range, don't remember the seller. Regards Andi -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Marcin Cimala Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Dezember 2005 12:31 An: M come Meteorite Meteorites; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] dong qinqin je and fukang where is this 900 kg. of this pallasite, for the moment I have seen only 3-4 slices for salein Munich many have say not have seen any piece of this pallasite. Matteo this time I must agree with Matteo. I not see any piece of Fukang in Munich. Some of people I know also first time hear about this fact from this list emails. So or this pieces was under table material not for our eyes or we should look for meteorites also on non marrocan-tables. But if there is 900kg and Tucson will be swamped with it so why Munich was not swamped with it ? So who saw any Fukang in Munich ? Any photos ? How much pieces was there ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) Art...delete me or SSteve from here now! Thank you!
JK and List, I LIKE the (legitimate) advertisements. It's good to know when new material is available. In the August number of Meteorite magazine Norbert Classen mentions how, late one night, an email on this list from John and Dawn Birdsell led him to one of the gems of his already fantastic collection. I look forward to sales postings by Stefan Ralew, Sergey Vasiliev, Norm Lehrman, Anne Black, Lars Pedersen and others in addition to Bessey, Farmer and the Hupés, all of whom I buy from. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] (AD) Art...delete me or SSteve from here now! Thank you! Dave and List, I know how you feel Dave. But, while I see Steve Arnold #2 as being a substantial problem on the List, he isn't the only problem. A couple of weeks ago I sent a personal email to Art expressing some of my own frustrations and told him I was thinking about leaving the List. What I'd really like to see is for the Meteorite List to regain it's focus on meteorites and get rid of all of the AD posts including all of the reminders about Ebay auctions along with all of the other off topic posts. I know I'm not the only one who is frustrated because I receive lots of commiserating private mail from people after I speak up like I did early today. Maybe I should join ranks with my buddy Dave and take a stand towards cleaning up the Meteorite List. Getting rid of a habitual offender would be a good start. Does anyone else share my opinion or are you content to leave the list the way it is? Regards, JKGwilliam At 09:35 PM 8/2/2005, DNAndrews wrote: Art, please delete either I or Steve Arnold (Chicago) from this list. I will gladly be the sacrificial lamb in this case. I haven't missed a Tucson show in 8 years, but I think I'll be skipping it from now on in the futurethanks to SSteve. I have no desire to associate with this person there or anywhere else for that matter... either electronically or or in person. He has done nothing but damage this great hobby of ours. If you choose me, I will be grateful as I won't have to open up and actually read all these messages that I delete day in, day out. I will still continue on my meteorite hunting trips and my true friends know how to get in touch me for those REAL meteorite hunts. To put it mildly, I'm sure some will be relieved to see me go. But, since SSteve came around, Tucson just isn't the same anymore. Some newbie buffoon that sez he's been around since 1999yeah...right! Count me out. I mean it! So, you choose ArtSSteve or meit won't really hurt me feelings if it is me. Really! (If I change my mind, I can just change my identity like Matteo anyways). Dave Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Good evening list.This is the 3rd time I have tried to post on yahoogroups for meteorites,and nothing.I wish I new what the problem is.Anyway I have added more items to my meteorite sale and will extend the half off till sunday the 7th.Just go to my website and look under the sale pages.Sorry for this, but I would like to know why my posts do not go thru on yahoogroups. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet
Chris and others, Pluto has not been referred to as a planet for centuries . John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet Not at all. There is a difference between the public misusing something that already has a formal definition (meteor), and the scientific establishment adopting a new definition for a word that has been used in a certain way for centuries (planet)- a definition at odds with how the word is now used. I say come up with a new word. Then the planets are, and always will be, what they are now- the nine bodies from Mercury to Pluto. And scientists won't have to spend the next 100 years qualifying what they mean by planet every time they talk with the lay public. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:05 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers to Decide What Makes a Planet On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 20:47:39 -0400, Dawn Gerald Flaherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, by the same give up on defining a planet because a planet is what the general public says it is logic, we might as well start calling meteorites meteors, because the general public tends to call meteorites meteors. Or we should accept that apes are monkeys, because the general public calls them monkeys. Or that pterasaurs are flying dinosaurs, because the general public calls them flying dinosaurs. I say come up with a reasonable definition, and if that disagrees with what the general public thinks, then tell the general public to go sit on a bunsen burner. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 29, 2005
Martin, Bernd and List, Here is another portion of the molten sky. I got it from Stefan Ralew in Berlin. http://www.johnkashuba.com/NWA_2902_L_chondrite_impact_melt.html John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 29,2005 Hi Bernd, my favourite metaphoric meteorite for the night sky is El Kachla, myriads of metal flakes from the tiniest speck to large 1 mag blobs in a bottomless black matrix. Not randomly squirted, but in dynamic streams around silent islands Quiet Doug, it's not an AD, I'm sold out. Perhaps me ask Uncle Twelker for some more. Here a not even find pic, which doesn't show the brilliance of this melt at FectayBidaut (which should have still quite an amount): http://www.meteorite.fr/en/images/forsale/ElKachla.jpg Buckleboo! Martin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - July 29, 2005 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/July29.html .. as if you were looking at our Milky Way under a perfectly dark, absolutely pollution-free sky. Thanks for sharing it! BTW, which W e l l m a n is it? Wellman (a, b, c, d, e)? Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - D'Orbigny thin sections
List, I got one of these d'Orbigny thin sections from E.T. and I'm thrilled. It is a generous size and super quality. I took some pictures of it that you may view here: http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_D'Orbigny_Angrite.html Best Regards, John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Edwin Thompson To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - D'Orbigny thin sections Hi Folks, anyone searching for a large thin section of D'Orbigny please feel free to contact me privately. The specimen used for thin sectioning measured roughly 10 x 20mm. These are very fine thin sections, in fact the thin sections sold by Al Mitterling and David New came from me originally. Cheers, Edwin __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 15, 2005
That sure looks like the NWA 1648 Diogenite Polymict Breccia thin section I bought from Jeff Rowell last year. http://www.johnkashuba.com/NWA%201648%20Diogenite%20-%20polymict%20breccia John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 3:05 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 15, 2005 http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April15.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Gunlock Hype (???)
And there is Cocklebiddy, too. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: RYAN PAWELSKI [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:34 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Gunlock Hype (???) Just wondering what all the hype about Gunlock is for? It's limited availability to collectors, or because it has a cool name? However, Gunlock still doesn't beat Billy Goat Donga or Cockburn., or even Milly Milly or Millbillillie. Ryan -Original Message- From: DNAndrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 14, 2005 8:53 PM To: bob cucchiara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad-Robert Haags collection pieces Hey Bob, You have one Ex-Haag piece I'm interested in. Gunlockyou know...the one that Windy Steve would never part with. Let me know what you want for it. I'm not kidding or poking fun at anyone. I'm serious. Dave bob cucchiara wrote: I have 2 rare meteorite offerings from the collection of Bob Haag. I am pleased to offer these to the Met list first and will be taking offers on these pieces. The best offer received meeting my low reserve, which will not be disclosed, will be awarded the piece. I will take offers for 7 days ending on Sunday Feb. 20th at 6PM Pacific time. If the reserve is not met, these pieces will either be offered on e bay or cut up. Both specimens will come with an officially signed Robert Haag specimen card. The 1st offering is a 618 gram rare quarter cut of Salla with 2 polished faces and patches of fusion crust. This stone is strange as each of the faces displays a completely different matrix. Salla was found in 1963. L6-Low TKW of 5.833 Kg. This piece comes from a Helsinki University trade with what I believe to be a university # B5100 on it. This piece can be viewed in the new Robert Haags Collection of Meteorites book on page 103 or his old field guide on page 45 as specimen #126. Additional photos available on request. The 2nd offering is a 756 gram, fusion crusted, quarter cut end piece of the rare Russian found Muslyumovo with 3 polished faces. H4-Low TKW of 10.58 Kg-Find 1964 This piece comes from a Russian academy of Sciences trade with their cloth tag and specimen #J55I8. This piece can be viewed in the new Robert Haags Collection of Meteorites book on page 115 or is old field guide on page 51 as specimen #154. Additional photos available on request. All offers or any further questions please e mail me off list.. Thank you Bob Cucchiara IMCA #1221 Meteoritemadness __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of NWA 773?
Darren, Contact Marvin Killgore: http://www.meteorite-lab.com/ John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of NWA 773? I meant 773, the new lunar, sorry. On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if it passed through the hands of anyone here, and if any of it will become available for private collectors? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good!
Dave, I'd suggest that before buying or building anything fancy you experiment with a couple plain ol' incandescent or halogen table or desk lamps at the dining room table. Set the camera for incandescent light and shoot. You might find the results to be quite good. Another point - flow lines and other surface features will usually show better if the light source is small, not large like a fluorescent bulb. Just for fun, turn on your digital camera so the electronic viewing screen is operating. Get your television remote controller, hold down one of the volume adjustment buttons and view the business end of the controller with the camera. The camera sees the invisible infrared. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good! David, there are plenty of bulbs out the that simulate natural day light. Any photography supply store should have some. : ) Thanks, Tom peregrineflier IMCA 6168 http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Let there be light, and let it be good! Dear List; It is basically winter here, and the best light I have is direct sun light but alas, it is 0 outside with the wind chill, and it really gets to be aggravating to run in and out with a rock and camera each time I wish to click a picture/list a rock to sell. We have had past discussions about lumens and the correct length of light, and very expensive light bulbs. I now have a Nikon Coolpix 3200 new digital whiz bang camera (and I learned about it here, and highly recommend it to anyone). It has a setting for incandescent light, and fluorescent lighting. Before I become a carpenter and get all excited (I do that you know), would a pair of $10 fluorescent light tubes and a plywood box work for indoor pictures until spring can get here? Can I save a great deal of agony by asking the oh-wise-multitude here before I get out the hammer and saw? My picture quality can be seen on eBay at mjwy user IDthe yellow color is from the decreased direct sunlight coming in the window. Thank you all for any thoughts...I need enlightened drastically! Best, Dave Freeman mjwy with auctions running crazy. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite Kakangarite
Dear List, Here is a portion of my thin section of Ouzina R4. http://www.johnkashuba.com/TS%20Ouzina%20R4.html John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Bernd Pauli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite Kakangarite This meteorite (Nwa 3098) looks a lot like some material I have...NWA 1774. NWA 1774 R3.8 - 6 (not R5) 714 g TKW Found 2002 I have some NWA 1774 and a thin section for sale if anyone is interested. JD -- Original message from Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- G'day Bernd Francesco, Ah yes. What a beauty NWA 3098 is! It is also this month's favourite at my site. There is a pic of the meteorite at the below link. Very interesting meteorite! http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/favourite.html Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteorites.com.au - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rumurutite Kakangarite Francesco wrote: Why on the classification page the R and K meteorite are Chondrite and just 6 pages after them become Achondrite? Maybe I misunderstood something? Francesco, Rumurutiites and Kakangariites are clearly chondritic. Let's take the LEW 87232 Kakangari-type Antarctic meteorite. The thin section does show chondrules and chondrule fragments. As for the R-chondrites, although the lower types have relatively few chondrules, they do have them. Ouzina (R4) is even said to have abundant barred olivine and porphyritic chondrules. I don't have any Ouzina, so I can't tell. My NWA 3098 slice from Stefan Ralew also shows several chondrules even though it is an R5. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 979 ureilite
David, Mike and List, Here are a couple pictures of a part of a 1.5 gram part slice I got from Mike. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_Dhofar%20979%20Ureilite.html John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Dhofar 979 ureilite Hi Mike and list, I for one am struck by the texture of this new ureilite, and I can't really figure out what I'm seeing. Under a scope with incident light my 19mm x 14mm x 2mm, 2.03 gram part slice is composed of virtually 100% clear to yellowish, translucent to glassy, sub-mm to mm-sized silicates, which allow for an almost see-thru quality (how's that for a David New-like description :) I don't observe any matrix or opaque veins that are typical in most ureilites. This appearance is very weird for a ureilite, at least to the inexperienced petrologist (me!). I am very curious to read Ted's description for this one when it's available - maybe some other list members have also purchased some of this ureilite and can share their thoughts about it - Bernd? If not may I highly recommend this one as a unique ureilite, and that I concur with what Ted Bunch told Mike about its being maybe unique. An understatement I think. Mike please pass along any information as you receive it. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Which one came closest?
Quite a few people live in Los Angeles. John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Which one came closest? Dear Anne, List; Well I think that the meteorite that has been found closest to my backyard is the Rock Springs, that same name is the town that I live in! How many people live in the same town that has a meteorite named after it? Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Since the List is very quiet tonight.. I was chatting with an ex-List member earlier today about the newest Colorado meteorite, probably an eucrite. And I noticed that the meteorite that fell (was found) closest to where I am from is also an eucrite: Bouvante. Do you know which meteorite came closest to your backyard? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMCA #2356, www.IMCA.cc __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ureilite Origins
Bernd and List, Aside from the origin of ureilites, it appears that traces of chondrules are found in polymict ureilites and are probably from impactors - like the chondrules sometimes found in howardites. See Mr. Weir's page on DaG 319. I might be lucky enough to have a thin section of DaG 319 that contains a chondrule. Tell me what you think. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_DaG_319_Ureilite_-_Polymict.html Regards, John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ureilite Origins They had to have been carbonaceous meteorites of some sort to begin with, but the articles I've seen don't seem to offer a clear picture of what they were like before they were shocked. CM, perhaps? Hello Marc, Frédéric, and List, Here is what I've harvested during the last few minutes: Cyrena Anne Goodrich, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona Invited Review - Ureilites: A critical review (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, pp. 327-352): 1) Nilpena contains clasts of carbonaceous chondrite matrix material. Detailed petrographic and mineralogic studies have shown that this material has close affinities to CI - and differs substantially from CM-matrix (Brearley and Prinz, 1989; 1992). Frédéric, close affinities to CI would also explain why we do not find any chondrules or relict chondrules in ureilites - there have never been any. But, ... now look at this - it is from the same review by C.A. Goodrich: 2) CI-matrix clasts in Nilpena have an oxygen-isotope composition plotting on the extension of the Allende mixing line on the 17^O-rich side of the terrestrial fractionation line, rather than within the field of CI matrix compositions (Brearley and Prinz, 1992). So the starting material may have been CI- o r CV-like. If it was CV-like, we might really expect to find traces of chondrules or at least chondrule precursor material. Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Martian Meteorite MIL 03346
Bernd and List, Thank you. List members might want to view my photos of an NWA 998 thin section I got from Michael Blood. http://www.johnkashuba.com/Ach_NWA_998_Nakhlite.html John Kashuba Ontario, California - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 12:28 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martian Meteorite MIL 03346 New Martian Meteorite Found In Antarctica (MIL 03346) Not only is it a new martian meteorite but it is also the first n a k h l i t e from the US Antarctic icefields ! There are two nakhlites from the Yamato icefields and they are probably paired: Yamato 000593 and Yamato 000749. Can MIL 03346 be paired with Y-000593 and Y-000749? Probably not, because the Yamato nakhlites do contain some olivine as an accessory mineral whereas olivine was not observed in MIL 03346, which is unusual for nakhlites. I am really glad I was able to acquire 0.61 grams of the NWA 998 nakhlite from Jim Strope some time ago. Some list members will remember that he offered a NWA 998 combo (thin section + meteorite). The thin section is an aesthetic feast for the eyes under crossed polars: - long augite prisms showing simple twinning - some augite crystals showing zoning - some augite crystals having a striated pattern - a few iron-rich olivine crystals with purple rim zoning (= poorer in iron) - colors, colors, colors! For those of you who can access the German Meteorite List (Yahoo List) and who can open the photo files, click on Dünnschliffe (= thin sections) and you will find my thin section photo of NWA 998, a stunning cascade of colors! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
