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[meteorite-list] whetstone slice ad
Hello List, I'm posting this ad for Todd Parker. He has a 3.41 gram Whetstone slice on eBay with less than 8 hours left. It's the best price I've seen on this very collectable witnessed fall. Wishing the best for Everyone, Larry Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -May 8, 2010
Hi Rob, List, I'd like to address a couple of points Rob made. I have great repect for you Rob, you are one smart dude, no doubts here! No disrespect intended to anyone out there, we all have opinions and that's what makes it all so fun! (Sorry to Phil and Warren for my full of it comment last night, I was having fun at your expense and should not have made the comment, nothing personal.) First, I don't believe anyone here thinks of the Franconia irons as an independent fall. It is widely known and understood that these are spalled out of the H chondrite. If my memory serves me correctly there were a few of you real smart guys out there that were adament opponents of a meteoritic origin at all concerning these tiny irons. A bunch of us that were in the field finding these little oriented beauties couldn't understand this position and I was truly starting to doubt some of the science/scientists. I'm glad it was straightened out and the truth acknowledged. I don't know if I agree with them getting their own classification but something needed to be done to acknowledge the unusual circumstances and unlikely event that created these. That being said, let's look closely at the irons, they may tell the whole story if we can learn to read them. Rob says they didn't have the opportunity to experience high altitude, high velocity ablation. I've posted some more pictures to my photobucket site. Though they are not the best pic's they do demonstrate the fact that at least some of these experienced some serious ablation, from flow lines to roll over lipping, bullet shapes and BB's. That in my opinion constitutes high altitude, high velocity ablation. These shapes did not occur some time after the stone was on the ground and the metal weathered out, nor did the shapes occur during dark flight, no way no how. As far as weathering away over the long period of time since the fall, I have no answer for that. However, it is a fact that many of the irons that have been found are smaller than .1 gram. I've found them myself and I've looked at other peoples finds that are very tiny. Somehow they are not weathering into oblivion. Perhaps this is another aspect of these irons that is not yet understood. Some are more weathered than others. They range in color from gun barrel blue to orange rust, some are black, others are brown, with different degrees of weathering apparent. I believe it's important to know the true answer because if it is a meteorite it should shed light on the impact pits on Sikhote Alin and other irons. Some people think that impurities popped out of the iron, or in the case of Franconia, that chondrules popped out, while others see a splash as if something impacted it. My little enigma may answer that question if it is proven to be of extraterrestrial origin. That would be a contribution to the science. If the RFSPOD object is a meteorite I think it is imperative that that be known. I feel an obligation to put it to the test and I'm close to having a SEM reading. I'll certainly inform the list when the results come in. Whatever the result is this has been a positive thread that inspires people to think and have constructive conversation and debate, what else could you ask for? http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/ Best Regards to All Larry -Original Message- From: Rob Matson mojave_meteori...@cox.net To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 3:19 am Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day -May 8, 2010 Hi All, Short opinion: manmade. Reasoning: the inability to produce such a form purely through atmospheric ablation. Just to remind everyone, all of the so-called Franconia irons are nothing more than chondritic iron that has separated from an H-chondrite fall -- either during flight, or by terrestrial weathering processes on the ground. Thus it has always bothered me that these irons were given a separate meteorite name from the ubiquitous H-chondrites at Franconia from which they derive. If my information is outdated on this subject, someone please let me know. But many (most?) of the people I know who have hunted Franconia and found these irons do not pretend that they are from a separate iron fall -- they all accept that the iron nuggets were spalled from an H-chondrite. So, getting back to Larry's unusual, tiny iron find. If this iron did not start at the top of the atmospere as a very tiny piece of iron, there would be no way to ablate it, let alone punch a hole through it. Since the Franconia irons were once part of a massive chondritic meteoroid, there was no opportunity for these irons to experience independent, high altitude, high velocity ablation. Their ablation history wouldn't have started until the main H-chondrite body had fragmented on a gigantic scale (e.g. terminal burst), which of course would have occurred at comparatively low altitude. On a final note, the H-chondrite
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010
Test Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:25:59 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010 Hi Joe, You misunderstood my post. I never said the links were from Larry, the Franconia meteorwrong guy. They're from some other meteorwrong guy. But I guess I can see how you infered that. I was trying to illustrate the point that something found in a known strewn field doth not a meteorite maketh. Phil Whitmer -- Those ebay links you provided were not listed by Larry, the guy who owns the Franconia iron, which I believe could very well be an iron meteorite, but not 100% sure. I have some Franonia irons with odd shapes as well, The roll over lip make me think it could very well be authentic. Also the the raised portion leading up to the hole in the center does not appear to be of even size all the way around, which it would be if it were a button. I think also the size make it a slim chance it is a button. Also the metal around the hole is not uniform and is more flattened and rolled over one one side. Dont think it is a wrong, but like I said I cant be sure, but Larry is a very knowledgeable guy who knows his meteorites, if he says it is a meteorite after having it for a few years and examining it in person, I will take his word for it until proved wrong. If I had to pay cash for it, I may then think about having it examined further. But A great collection piece either way. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010
Hello list, This will be short for now, my computer is in the shop. First, I'm havin fun! Second, I thought it may be a little controversial though it may be a bit more so than I thought. Next I'll say that the object is smaller than might be apparent. I'll show more pictures later. I can say it is smaller than any grommet I've seen. I'll also say that I thought it was a shoe lace eye when I first saw it, it is however too small. It has a rollover lip that curls like a wave nearly all the way around and the hole in the center is blown outward, not very apparent in the image. With all due respect to Sterling and the other nay sayers, let me point out a scenario that you are not considering. I have several, and have seen many others with holes punched into, and sometimes nearly through the little iron. I have a perfect example of this I will show when I get my computer back and can post pics. This phenomenon has been observed in SIkhote Alin as well. Perhaps not a complete penetration but big splashes nonetheless. This has happened in Franconia where the irons are tiny and whatever it is that makes these splash forms was able to pass all the way through an already flight oriented meteorite. Sure, it may not be a meteorite, that is understood by me, I'll have it tested if I can. However, I do believe the odds are in favor of SaW 005 being the origin ; ) Humbly Confident Larry Atkins Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: thetop...@aol.com Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:43:04 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8,2010 Test Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 15:25:59 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - May 8, 2010 Hi Joe, You misunderstood my post. I never said the links were from Larry, the Franconia meteorwrong guy. They're from some other meteorwrong guy. But I guess I can see how you infered that. I was trying to illustrate the point that something found in a known strewn field doth not a meteorite maketh. Phil Whitmer -- Those ebay links you provided were not listed by Larry, the guy who owns the Franconia iron, which I believe could very well be an iron meteorite, but not 100% sure. I have some Franonia irons with odd shapes as well, The roll over lip make me think it could very well be authentic. Also the the raised portion leading up to the hole in the center does not appear to be of even size all the way around, which it would be if it were a button. I think also the size make it a slim chance it is a button. Also the metal around the hole is not uniform and is more flattened and rolled over one one side. Dont think it is a wrong, but like I said I cant be sure, but Larry is a very knowledgeable guy who knows his meteorites, if he says it is a meteorite after having it for a few years and examining it in person, I will take his word for it until proved wrong. If I had to pay cash for it, I may then think about having it examined further. But A great collection piece either way. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Irons / RFSPOD
Hello List, Got my computer back a couple hours ago and I'm ready for a friendly rebuttal ;) Ok, I snapped a few images and created a photobucket account so I might plea my case visually. I'll start by saying Phil, Warren, I like guys like you.. so full of it and all.. kinda like me ; ) Seriously, I'm not 100% on my conclusions so take it easy guys. Though I'm confident, I can accept the fact that sometimes things are not what they seem, I hope you can do the same.. Like I said, I thought it was a shoelace eyelet but it is way too small, there is more to this picture than meets the eye. There is a picture of a standard shoestring with the object on photobucket. This particular object is very thin. For comparisson I've made an image of the meteorite and two more irons from the area to show thickness comparisson. They are lying on their sides. I looked at some snaps on my old World War 2 military gas mask canvas case and they are twice the diameter, and they are oxidizing green like copper and they do not attract a magnet. These are not the same for sure. I doubt the meteorite suspect is a snap unless it was used for dolls clothes. It's not a grommet for a tarp unless we are talking Lilliputians here I don't think you are gonna tie much down wit one of these. A shoe lace will not fit through the hole let alone a rope. (I also need to mention that one of the first things I did was check it with a magnet and it has the same, super strong pull to my neodymium magnet that the other Franconias have. It is identical. I've also included a picture of the object beside another SaW 005 with a large pit in it. Note the similarity in size and shape of the pit. I dare say that if this little iron was as thin as the object in question it would 've blown right through. There is also a picture of it lying with a bunch of others I've found over the years to show relative size to the known SaW 005's. I'd like to comment on the chondrule hypothesis for the origin of the pits. It seems very unlikely to me due to the fact that very similar pits exist in Sikhote Alin, which we know to be purely an iron without a chondritic conection. Also, the pits are splashes as if shot with a tiny, high powered rifle, they are not like any chondrite I've seen that had a chondrule fall out. Those are completely two different things as far as I can see. I'd also like to point out that Flanged Button is only used in a descriptive manor, indicating a similar appearance. In no way do I believe this iron was formed in the same manner as a flanged button tektite; only that it has a similar appearance, due to the forces that punched the hole, whatever they may be. All said, the SaW 005 H-metal meteorites are a very curious group indeed and I believe there is much more to the story than the usual strewnfield scenario. Dynamics are at play that are not fully understood at this time but will hopefully come to light soon. I wish Jim Smaller was here to put in his two and half cents. Jim by the way was a fine man that knew a meteorite when he saw one and didn't take no for an answer when the experts said the Franconia irons were not meteoritic, he followed through and proved the point. I have to say I was one of his outspoken defenders. When you see flow lines on an oriented, impact pitted iron object that is found in the middle of an H chondrite strewnfield and the chondrites have huge chunks of metal sticking out of them on occassion, you just know it's right, and as it turns out, it is. That's part of why I'm sure about this thing. I've spent days on end in that field and found dozens of the irons, no two are the same. Plenty are oriented and many have pits. Sooner or later it's going to happen. I don't think it is nearly as crazy as some of you think. I believe that if you had it in your hands with a 10x loupe you would understand what I'm saying. http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/ Best Regards and Happy Hunting! Larry PS I'm attempting to arrange SEM now. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Irons - RFSPOD
Hello List, Got my computer back a couple hours ago and I'm ready for a friendly rebuttal ;) Ok, I snapped a few images and created a photobucket account so I might plea my case visually. I'll start by saying Phil, Warren, I like guys like you.. so full of it and all.. kinda like me ; ) Seriously, I'm not 100% on my conclusions so take it easy guys. Though I'm confident, I can accept the fact that sometimes things are not what they seem, I hope you can do the same.. Like I said, I thought it was a shoelace eyelet but it is way too small, there is more to this picture than meets the eye. There is a picture of a standard shoestring with the object on photobucket. This particular object is very thin. For comparisson I've made an image of the meteorite and two more irons from the area to show thickness comparisson. They are lying on their sides. I looked at some snaps on my old World War 2 military gas mask canvas case and they are twice the diameter, and they are oxidizing green like copper and they do not attract a magnet. These are not the same for sure. I doubt the meteorite suspect is a snap unless it was used for dolls clothes. It's not a grommet for a tarp unless we are talking Lilliputians here I don't think you are gonna tie much down wit one of these. A shoe lace will not fit through the hole let alone a rope. (I also need to mention that one of the first things I did was check it with a magnet and it has the same, super strong pull to my neodymium magnet that the other Franconias have. It is identical. I've also included a picture of the object beside another SaW 005 with a large pit in it. Note the similarity in size and shape of the pit. I dare say that if this little iron was as thin as the object in question it would 've blown right through. There is also a picture of it lying with a bunch of others I've found over the years to show relative size to the known SaW 005's. I'd like to comment on the chondrule hypothesis for the origin of the pits. It seems very unlikely to me due to the fact that very similar pits exist in Sikhote Alin, which we know to be purely an iron without a chondritic conection. Also, the pits are splashes as if shot with a tiny, high powered rifle, they are not like any chondrite I've seen that had a chondrule fall out. Those are completely two different things as far as I can see. I'd also like to point out that Flanged Button is only used in a descriptive manor, indicating a similar appearance. In no way do I believe this iron was formed in the same manner as a flanged button tektite; only that it has a similar appearance, due to the forces that punched the hole, whatever they may be. All said, the SaW 005 H-metal meteorites are a very curious group indeed and I believe there is much more to the story than the usual strewnfield scenario. Dynamics are at play that are not fully understood at this time but will hopefully come to light soon. I wish Jim Smaller was here to put in his two and half cents. Jim by the way was a fine man that knew a meteorite when he saw one and didn't take no for an answer when the experts said the Franconia irons were not meteoritic, he followed through and proved the point. I have to say I was one of his outspoken defenders. When you see flow lines on an oriented, impact pitted iron object that is found in the middle of an H chondrite strewnfield and the chondrites have huge chunks of metal sticking out of them on occassion, you just know it's right, and as it turns out, it is. That's part of why I'm sure about this thing. I've spent days on end in that field and found dozens of the irons, no two are the same. Plenty are oriented and many have pits. Sooner or later it's going to happen. I don't think it is nearly as crazy as some of you think. I believe that if you had it in your hands with a 10x loupe you would understand what I'm saying. http://s934.photobucket.com/albums/ad190/alienrockfarm/ Best Regards and Happy Hunting! Larry PS I'm attempting to arrange SEM now. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Wisconsin Meteorite Slices Available
Hello List, It pains me to do this but here goes. I'm not a dealer and I rarely sell meteorites. When I do it's to fund a hunt or expand my modest collection. This sale is to cover some of my costs incurred while hunting for the worlds newest meteorite. I'm offering 5 complete slices. 1.7 gram end cut completely crusted on end 2.07 gram super thin slice, missing a small amount of fusion crust (so thin some crust fell off while cutting) 3.15 gram complete slice crusted all the way around 4.1 gram complete slice crusted all the way around 6.29 gram complete slice crusted all the way around 12.16 gram half stone to remain in my collectionforever. I'm not interested in selling part slices, whole slices only. Interested persons can email me for pictures. I will take offers for 48 hours from the time this is posted. OFF LIST Please. The terms of these sales are to remain confidential until the major work is done in the field. Serious offers only, make it worth my effort! I do have a reserve price I'm looking for, bid high. I'll include a copy of one of the local newspapers with each slice and an in-situ pic of the stone with GPS coord's before it was picked up. Good Luck! Larry Atkins Thanks __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!!
This is great news Joe! Congradulations on this teriffic find. It took monumental effort and rare dedication. I think that when someone is as fired up as you it's inevitable that he will score. How cool it must have been to have your kids right there at the moment.. Sweet! I'm not surprised at your success, you deserve it. It was a true pleasure to get to know you and spend some good times in the field and I hope to see you at the next one. As far as that goes, it was a great pleasure to meet so many of you. I'm not gonna name em all, you know who you are and I thank you for a wonderful hunt and the good words passed on by Ruben and Robert Woolard, too kind. For those headed back or just arriving, Good Luck! Larry PS It took me 6 days and about 130 miles of walking, and a new transmission for my truck, to find 33.7 grams of pure fusion crusted pleasure ! It's got to be the hardest won meteorite I ever found. -Original Message- From: Joe Kerchner skyrockmeteori...@yahoo.com To: meteorite list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:08 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] 332gr WI find!! Listees, I found a 332 gram piece from the WI fall. Finally after 9 days in the field persistence paid off. I will post some pics on the skyrock cafe soon. Best Wishes, Joe Kerchner http://illinoismeteorites.com http://skyrockcafe.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Dorchester County, MD fireball reported 30MAR09
Unfortunately it sounds as if it may have dropped into the Atlantic if the reports describing a west to east direction of flight are correct. In a message dated 3/30/2009 9:55:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, geo...@aol.com writes: After reading whats posted on the meteorobs mailing list, it sounds like a meteorite dropper to me. GeoZay **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad- Ebay Items Ending Now
Hello Fellow Enthusiasts, I have some '869, Holbrook, Sudbury (impact), DaG 956 and more. Some end tonight. Thanks, Larry http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ200QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weird Connections?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncronicity -Larry In a message dated 3/12/2009 1:14:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, e...@meteoritewatch.com writes: Over the last few months we've all witnessed, read about, and/or seen videos, articles, and new reports about all the meteorite news happening all over the world. I'd like to concentrate on the USA for a second though. Has anyone noticed the coincidences in the falls, fireballs, names and locations of the most recent meteor and meteorite activity in the United States? For Example: West, Texas - FALL - L6 Chondrite (Witnessed Fall; newest recovered fall in the world) First piece found near Cottonwood Rd West, Texas meteorite - Many pieces were found in Cotton fields... ;) Westchester, NY - Fireball Sighting - There is a Cottonwood Rd very close to the radar image of this event. (within a few miles) Cottonwood, CA - Unidentified object from sky destroys car in Cottonwood, CA Meteor Crater - Within 100 miles of Cottonwood, AZ If you do a search on Google for Cottonwood meteorite you'll of course find the Cottonwood H5 meteorite. http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/test/cottonwood.jpg And recently, a fireball report was filed on my site stating and I quote ..I heard the loadest bang on my roof and immediately a small branch from a cottonwood tree high overhead landed on my windshield... (Of course this is not a meteorite, but a falling branch. Nonetheless the coincidences are uncanny... ;) A cottonwood tree? I mean come on, what are the chances? lol I say everyone in the USA who's interested in witnessing meteor fireballs and finding meteorites should grab their camera equipment and meteorite stick and stakeout any road, highway, tree, city, town, village, church or any other public or private building or landmark with the name Cottonwood. According to the data, the chances are good that you might just witness a new meteorite fall! Silly? You decide... lol ;) Regards, Eric Wichman Meteorites USA www.meteoritesusa.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Need a job? Find employment help in your area. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0005) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] List Members, what's your job ?
Hello List, Interesting topic. I turned 44 one week ago on Feb 12 while hunting meteorites in Az. Though I found a few on my trip I didn't find any on my birthday. I own a small company called Poison Ivy Control Of Michigan. I'm also an electrician, something I do during the winter months while the evil ivy is at rest. : ) Larry Atkins In a message dated 2/19/2009 8:29:50 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pierremariep...@yahoo.fr writes: Hello List, as we communicate frequently through the List, I sometimes think about what is your job ? The meteorites are what we share in common but most of you are not meteorite dealers. So I thought it could be cool to know a little bit more from each other. So I start ;-) I'm 38, live west of Paris (France) and am Project Manager on TV for Orange (telecommunications company) Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Aziz's Carbonaceous Breccia?
List, Aziz, I've never seen a meteorite like this, anyone else? _http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/3293463147/_ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi/3293463147/) -Larry **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Advertisement 7.8 g Park Forest
Hello List, I would like to offer a 7.8 gram part slice of the 638 gram Park Forest that my brother found on Saturday, March 29, 2003. This stone was pictured in the July 2003 Sky and Telescope magazine. This would be a fine addition to any collection, but even more so if you have the magazine to go with it. Serious offers only please, email me for pictures. The highest acceptable offer received by 10:00 PM eastern time tomorrow, Feb. 16 will get this piece. There is a small amount of crust on the slice. Thanks, Larry Atkins **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Correction!
Ending is tomorrow, Feb 17 (not 16)10:00 PM eastern time. Thanks **Need a job? Find an employment agency near you. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=employment_agenciesncid=emlcntusyelp0003) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Google down? Sort of on-topic.
Hi Jeff, I had no problem.. went to 3 sites. Btw, this years calendar ROCKS! -Larry Atkins In a message dated 1/31/2009 10:08:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, i...@meteorites.com.au writes: Hi all, Does anyone know what's going on with Google? I went to search for a meteorite and EVERY site is showing up as a potential risk to your computer. All of the well known meteorite sites have the following warning under the main title: This site may harm your computer. You end up at an interstitial Google page and you can't get past it to the webpage. You have to put the URL into the address bar yourself. In fact it's not limited to meteorites and the ONLY site I've seen so far that doesn't seem to have this result is Google! It's happening on Google US and Australia. Is anyone else getting this? Cheers, Jeff __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0023) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad ebay Auctions Tucson Trip Fund Raiser!
Hello List, I'm still raising money to fund my meteorite hunting trip to Arizona. I have 19 auctions going right now, some ending today. Auctions include SaW 005, JaH 073 DaG 956, Franconia, Gold Basin, 869, Holbrook, Sudbury impact material and more! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ200QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 Thanks to those of you that bid on my previous auctions, and thanks in advance to those that bid on these, it's very much appreciated! Best Wishes, Larry Atkins **Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital.(http://www.aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom0027) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad.. Sacramento Wash 005, Holbrook, ' 869 and More
Some of these end in a few minutes! Raising cash for this years hunt following the Tucson show. Help me find more meteorites with your bids! http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/alienrockfarm_W0QQ_dmdZ1QQ_ipgZ50QQ_sopZ12 Thanks, Larry **Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that will have people talking. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0021) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad.. Holbrook, DaG 956 JaH 073 and More!
Hi List, I usually have a small sale this time of year to help fund my Tucson trip, this year is no different. http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/alienrockfarm_W0QQ_dmdZ1QQ_ipgZ50QQ_sopZ12 Happy Holidays! Larry **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1215047751x1200957972/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] That Indiana Report
Maybe not so promising.. http://www.theindychannel.com/news/15911294/detail.html In a message dated 4/17/2008 1:12:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It does sound good- really good. The video with it is interesting also- and the claim of a metallic odor makes it all the more interesting. Now if it just kept going one more state over to Ohio where I live.. Will be interesting when the trajectory is known and follow up reports that come out of it. Am working in Cincinnati this week- and if it gets better- I'm outa here! Border of Indiana is only 20 miles away. 70 degrees and sunny- what better hunting weather is that? Mike --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, Doesn't the Kokomo Indiana newsreport sound promising? http://www.theindychannel.com/news/15907638/detail.html Best wishes, Doug __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mount Tazerait, Is it obtainable?
In a message dated 4/5/2008 10:49:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi List, I recently imaged a thin section of Mount Tazerait L5. I found it fell Aug 21 1991 in Niger but I haven't seen any for sale (since I started looking which was just recently). Is this a hard one to find? In the thin section was a large inclusion. I have many cool micrographs of it on the March Meteorite Times issue (Open the magazine and click on Micro Visions). http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm This inclusion was different from what I am used to seeing and reminded me of some Earth like volcanic structures. I won't start tossing descriptive names around because I might be way off. Any of you with the time and inclination, please share your thoughts of what this stuff reminds you of. And if any one knows of Mount T for sale, please let me know. Thanks, Tom Phillips **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Tom, Try Anne Black. I bought a beautiful slice from her a few years ago. I think she still has plenty. Larry **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mount Tazerait, Is it obtainable?
Tom, List, Coincidentally, I had my slice of Mt. Taz out and under the microscope a couple weeks ago and I found a crystal in one of the vugs that was unlike ones I've seen in the past. I was surprised to find it because I thought I had looked in every vesicle on the specimen. Seems there is always a surprise inside when I break out my Taz! It's worth a look for sure if you are interested in these kinds of things. I can tell you that I've never before seen, nor would I expect to see a crystal like this in a meteorite. Those interested can email me off list and I'll send the image. Regards, Larry In a message dated 4/5/2008 10:49:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi List, I recently imaged a thin section of Mount Tazerait L5. I found it fell Aug 21 1991 in Niger but I haven't seen any for sale (since I started looking which was just recently). Is this a hard one to find? In the thin section was a large inclusion.I have many cool micrographs of it on the March Meteorite Times issue (Open the magazine and click on Micro Visions). http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm This inclusion was different from what I am used to seeing and reminded me of some Earth like volcanic structures. I won't start tossing descriptive names around because I might be way off. Any of you with the time and inclination, please share your thoughts of what this stuff reminds you of. And if any one knows of Mount T for sale, please let me know. Thanks, Tom Phillips **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Naked Science
Steve A, Geoff, List, Bravo! Saw you guys on National Geo last night, just wanted to say congratulations, job well done! By the way, how did that 3 wheeler turn into a Hummer? : ) -Larry **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] -AD- ebay SaW 005 and Holbrook Ending Soon
Hello List Members, I have a few auctions ending over the next few days. There's a nice crusted Holbrook chunk ending tonight, no bids as of yet! There's a fine SaW 005 (Franconia Iron) individual too, very cool, very rare type! _http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 _ (http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0) Good Luck if bidding! Larry **Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv000316) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 26, 2008 / Story
Hello List, I'd like to share the story of this meteorite's recovery. A few weeks after the fall I had returned to the strewn field to hunt the wooded park area more thoroughly, I was confident I would find something despite the fact I had already been skunked there in the weeks previous. After two days of tromping through the woods, poking my metal detector into all cracks and crevices, looking for skinned, dented, or otherwise damaged trees, I found nothing! Something came up and I had to go home, (another story) about a 4.5 hour drive, spend the night with plans to come right back the following morning. When I returned it was with the intention of making contact with some of the residents in the neighborhoods, I was finished with the woods! Upon arriving at the first neighborhood I encountered two men with a big motorcycle down in a deep ditch, they were struggling with it and could not get it out. Forgetting meteorites for the moment, I pulled over and offered up the service of my 4 wheel drive Tahoe. Of course they accepted my offer and I broke out the tow strap, pulling them out. The bike was not drivable so the one guy called his cousin Simon, who lived down the street and was the owner of the motorcycle. Simon walked down, not realizing he couldn't drive the bike home, and when he realized it couldn't be driven he asked me for a ride to his house. I obliged and as we headed for his house he asked me what I was doing in his neighborhood, having seen my Michigan plates. Suddenly, coming to my meteoritic senses I remembered why I was there. Oh I'm looking for those meteorites that fell a few weeks ago. I said. I've got one. He says, like it's no big deal. Really? I asked. I'll show you when we get to my house. When we got to his house he brings out this unbelievably fresh Park Forest meteorite! I held it to my nose and could smell sulphur. I tried to maintain my composure, not wanting to look too eager. I asked him to tell me how he came about this meteorite and he told me that on the night of the fall he had just gone to bed. He was not yet asleep when he experienced the bright light illuminating his bedroom and the tremendous explosions that followed. A couple minutes later he heard a disturbance outside, he said it sounded like something hit his house. He got up out of bed, walked downstairs and opened his front door. When he looked down he saw this meteorite setting on his door mat! This stone was picked up and brought into the house less than a minute after it hit his maple tree and landed on his porch, incredible! I was nearly broke and had only a one hundred dollar bill in my pocket. I thought, there's no way he'll take $100.00, is there? As I pulled the $100.00 bill from my pocket I offered to trade it for the meteorite. He was reaching for the money and asking his wife if it was ok at the same time! Hilarious, she said Hell yes! take the money! My heart was racing and I couldn't believe they made the trade. The funny thing is that had I had $500.00 in my pocket I probably would have offered that! I hung out with Simon, his cousin and his uncle, drinking beer out in the garage 'till the wee hours, slept in my truck, then drove home the next day. It almost killed me but I sold this meteorite as soon as I got home. I needed the money. I'd like to take a moment and publicly thank Ryan Pawelski for giving me the opportunity to buy this meteorite back from him when he was ready to sell. It now resides in my collection and is one of my favorite meteorite's and one of my fondest memories of meteorite hunting. Thanks Ryan! Best Regards, Larry Atkins In a message dated 3/26/2008 7:52:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.spacerocksinc.com/March_26_2008.html **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000 301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 26, 2008 / Story
Bernd, List, Thanks to all for the nice comments, It's my pleasure to share the story. Bernd asked about the amount of time that passed between the explosion and the fall of stones. Yes, I asked specifically and he said it was a minute or two, I remember being a bit surprised at this. I need to note that I may have made an error. I wrote that the meteorite was picked up within a minute of falling, but now I'm thinking it may have been a couple hours. I must be getting old! Either way it never saw the rain that most other recoveries at Park Forest did. In a message dated 3/26/2008 10:56:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Larry writes: I'd like to share the story of this meteorite's recovery. Thank you Larry for sharing this particular and very personal recovery story! Beautiful story, beautiful PP specimen, indeed! There is one litle detail that piques my curiosity: He was not yet asleep when he experienced the bright light illuminating his bedroom and the tremendous explosions that followed. A *couple minutes* later he heard a disturbance outside, he said it sounded like something hit his house. In view of the tremendous fireball and the accompanying sound phenomena witnessed by various people here in Europe (especially Switzerland, Southern Germany and Eastern France) ... was it really a couple minutes later or was it a couple seconds later? As a sidenote: What coincidence as even the time of fall would almost be identical 23:50:26 hrs for Park Forest and ca. 23:45 hrs for the fireball of March 01, 2008! For those interested in reading more about the Park Forest, L5 (S5; W0; br; sv; impact melt pockets) chondrite, here are some stories worth reading or re-reading: BROWN P. (2003) Meteorites Rain on Chicago Suburbs (Sky Tel., July 2003, p. 25). SIMON S.B. et al. (2003) The fall, recovery, and classification of the Park Forest meteorite (MAPS 38-7, 2003, A139). SIMON S.B. et al. (2004) The fall, recovery, and classification of the Park Forest meteorite (MAPS 39-4, 2004, pp. 625-634). SIPIERA P.P. (2003) The Fall of the Park Forest, Illinois Meteorite (Meteorite, Aug 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, pp. 08-11). NOTKIN G., SINCLAIR J. (2003) In the Forest of the Night (Meteorite, Aug 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, pp. 12-14). HOREJSI M. (2003) From the Strewnfields - A Portable Strewnfield (Meteorite, Aug 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, p. 25). Best regards from the happy owner of 6.5 + 4.7 + 4 + 0.5 + 0.2 grams of the Park Forest meteorite, Bernd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - March 26, 2008 / Ques
List, Quick question, Does a hammer stone this make? When he looked down he saw this meteorite setting on his door mat! Thanks, larry **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - Nice Holbrook Fragment Rock Bottom $
Hello List, There's only about 5 hours left on this nice piece of Holbrook and it's sittin' at about $1.65 a gram! Please take a look if you're so inclined. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=250227027293ssPageNam e=STRK:MESE:ITih=015 Thanks for looking! Larry Atkins **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Most Unique CAI
Greg, List, This is a perfect example of the difference between people like me who sell the occasional meteorite to support my collecting habit, and a true dealer. How you ever parted with that CAI capped jewel is beyond me, I doubt I would have ever been able to sell it! That is truly one of the most unique features I've ever seen. -Larry In a message dated 3/23/2008 10:51:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear HUGE CAI Enthusiasts, I was reminded by Jeff Kuyken that I had offered a couple of NWA 3118 CV3 specimens a couple years ago with massive CAI's popping out of them. While I do not remember at the moment who the lucky collectors were who acquired these, I do have the photos of these remarkable specimens. Here are links to the photos with several views each: The Donut (with sprinkles!). The most unique CAI in the World! http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118a.jpg Large Encased CAI http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa3118/nwa3118b.jpg If the people who has these would like to chime in with the measurements, that would be cool! Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Fw: Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi Greg, Have you had a look at this article. It's quite good. But if I am remembering right, didn't you sell a NWA 3118 individual a couple of years back with a MASSIVE CAI sticking out of the surface? Or maybe I'm remembering that wrong? Anyhow, hope you have a great and safe Easter. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 2:17 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Martin is back with Accretion Desk!! Hi list, Has every one noticed that Martin Horejsi is back this month in Meteorite Times? http://www.meteorite-times.com/meteorite_frame.htm Martin has written articles we all have enjoyed for years. He was a standard in Meteorite Magazine. It seams he has changed states from Idaho to Montana and changed Universities as well. This months article is on the biggest CAI I have ever seen or (heard about) and with the recent discovery of the asteroids high in CA, what great timing. Check it out!!! Martin, it's good to see you back. Tom **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list **Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] '869?
Hello List, Noticed this on ebay. Does it look like NWA 869 to you guys? Perhaps it's just that I've never seen this litho. Comments appreciated. http://cgi.ebay.com/NWA-869-meteorite-16-5-gram-polished-slice-NR_W0QQitemZ110 230760513QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3239QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks, Larry **It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf000301) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Jiddat al Harasis 073 (I need a Some!)
Hello List, I just looked at Tom's pictures of JaH 073, Wow!! That's one of the best looking meteorites I've ever seen through the 'scope. That said, who has a piece for sale? Contact me off list please. Thanks, Larry **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thin Section, Polished or Lapped?
Hello List, I want to have some thin sections made. While investigating I found that I have a choice, polished or lapped. Does anyone have any input or advice as to which is the more desirable for cross polar viewing? Any reputable thin section makers to recommend? Thanks. Countin' Down and Tucson Bound! Larry Atkins **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Sale, Park Forest
Hello List, I hope all of you are doing well and off to a good start in the New Year. I'm trying to raise a few extra dollars to help fund my yearly Tucson show/ meteorite hunting trip so I've put some of last years bounty on ebay and a small PF from a few years back. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 Thanks for looking and Happy Hunting, Larry **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] A tale for all
Doug, List, That was a wonderful tale to read tonight, very creative. Thanks Doug! Merry Christmas to All, Larry Atkins **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - ebay Holbrook, Park Forest..
Hello List, I have a few interesting items on ebay, all at low prices, some ending today. Please disregard the two non meteorite related items : ) Thanks, Larry http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0 **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304) __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New micrographs Angrite at 2100X cross pol
Tom, List, Fantastic! Those are some great photo's Tom. The 2100x images of the angrite are very cool, I'd like to see more at that magnification. I like the one that looks like a little computer board or something, on SAH 99555. Very interesting, anyone know what that is all about? If any of you haven't been to the Meteorite Times page featuring Tom's work, you should check it out. Natures beauty captured in micro..Sweet Keep up the great work Tom, Larry In a message dated 4/22/2007 9:28:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi list. Paul has set up a new batch to my Meteorite Micrograph Gallery hosted by Meteorite Times. http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/index.htm The new material is: Santa Vitoria do Palmar (L3) NWA 999 Eucrite NWA 2086 CV3 NWA 2090 CO3 SAH 99555 Angrite The Angrite is imaged at 400X, 760X and 2100X. I was just testing the limits with the 2100X. They are not as fine an image as I would like, but they are cool and interesting. The 400X shots really show off the unique structure of the Angrite. I think you all would enjoy them. The thin sections: Santa Vitoria do Palmar (L3), NWA 999 Eucrite, and SAH 99555 Angrite were a loan from Jeff Hodges. The NWA 2086 CV3 and NWA 2090 CO3 were reflected light examination of highly polished thick slices provided by Mike Farmer. Thanks for looking and please let me know how you liked the 2100X Angrite. If it is a waist of time, I would still like to know. Jeff had a custom thin prepared for this that was polished to 1/4 micron on both sides! We will do more it is thought to be worth while. Tom Phillips ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fusion crusts on stony meteorites
Hello All, Welcome to the list Susa! I'm glad to hear that you find this forum fascinating and fun, it really is a great place to learn about meteorites and meet wonderful, like minded people. I can appreciate your aspirations to be the top meteorite hunter in Michigan, I set out to do the same, some years ago. I'm not positive but I think I made it. : ) If you want to knock me off my throne you have to beat out Maria to get to me! It took her a while to get going, but look out, she's on a roll... There are other women on this list and I'm sure you will find them to be great people too. I met Moni is Tucson this year, a fantastic meteorite hunter with her own finds, very impressive! Know that I, as a fellow meteorite hunting Michigander, will help you pursue your dream in any way that I can. Us Midwesterners have a distinct disadvantage compared to the folks out west, we need all the help we can get and we need to stick together! Welcome to the enigmatic life that is meteorites. Let's share a hunt! Happy Hunting, Larry Atkins In a message dated 3/24/2007 7:56:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well Dear Ladies; I find my personal friend, and buddy, Maria Haas from Michigan to be far superior a meteorite hunter than any of the other ladies on the list and especially from Michigan. Her large and excellent karma helps her find many meteoritesjust not in Michigan. Very best, Dave F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/24/2007 3:52:12 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I'm the only girl on the site. I am facinated by you guys, and the knowledge I'm gaining from just reading these posts is awesome. I want to be the top meteorite hunter in Michigan. With you boys on my side, I think I can be. I am well educated in geology, and anthropology, but meteorites is a new and fun thing for me. I'm a hunter at heart. I'm a metal detecting geek, well, even though I'm a blonde cute girl. It's totally facinating. Thanks you guys for all your info, it's like taking a college course in the subject. Susa No, you are not the only woman on the List. And I am blond too. ;-) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Slice
Hello List, I have an ebay auction ending in about an hour and a half. As of right now the slice can be had for just over a buck a gram! A great deal may be in your future. A Free Micro Pic's CD is included. _http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=015sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3 AITviewitem=item=250093863093rd=1rd=1_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=015sspagename=STRK:MESE:ITviewitem=item=250093863093rd=1rd =1) Thanks, Larry ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Pallasite, photos.
Hi Mike, List, Great job! I'd like to say congratulations on your extraordinary find. I can understand how that may be your most satisfying find yet, them thar Pallasites are rare! Thanks for sharing the pictures and story as well, some would say that's the best part, the human experience of personal success. Well Done. Happy Hunting, Larry Atkins In a message dated 3/17/2007 10:30:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Mike, Ruben, and All, I'd like to second Ruben's congratulations on this fantastic find - well done Mike! This one is extra-cool because it's a cold find. Great in situ pictures, by the way! So keep on rocking, and never mind the trolls. Best, Norbert Norbert Classen Planetary Meteorites http://www.meteoris.de -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Hi Mike and All, Congratulations!!! You are the man Mike, an impressive find indeed!! I'm not sure if most of the list can fully appreciate how hard it is to find a meteorite, even when you're right in the middle of the strewn field. Finding a pallasite is an awesome feeling. I know that you are one of only a handfull of people that have ever found a Glorieta Mountain Pallasite. How many different pallasites have you personally found? I'm assuming Imilac, Glorieta Mountain and this new one, any others? Ruben Ruben Garcia Phoenix, Arizona http://www.mr-meteorite.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Palasite sales pages
Mike, List, Great stuff, that's one beautifully ugly meteorite! I can't congratulate you enough. I hope you cut some up into more affordable pieces for working stiffs like me. I really want some but these are way out of my league. : ( Thanks again for the excellent report! -Larry In a message dated 3/17/2007 1:26:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ojk, I have the first sales pages up, just the large pieces, no photos of the smaller pieces up yet. Michael Farmer http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/newpallasite.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/newpallasitesales1.htm http://www.meteoriteguy.com/collection/newpallasitesales2.htm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fireball reports coming in from Michigan
In a message dated 3/11/2007 8:00:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've received three fireball reports in the last few minutes from Michigan and Ontario. I usually consider multiple out-of-area (Colorado) reports significant since I don't get many. The event was at 1955-2000 EDT, roughly north to south, blue-green with lots of fragmentation, terminal point approximately over Detroit. Definitely east of South Bend, and west of London. The path may have crossed most of the Lower Peninsula. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Hello Chris, List, If anyone receives more information regarding this event, please contact me on or off list. Thanks, Larry BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My First Meteorite
In a message dated 3/12/2007 4:14:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry Flaherty writes: My first was a generous gift of a 6 gram Gold Basin from John Blennert. None could be more exciting in anticipation, reception and examination. Hello Listees and Listoids, Like so many others, I have to find my first own meteorite yet. But the first meteorite I purchased was a 15-gram cut + etched Mundrabilla slice from Walter Zeitschel - see Meteorite Times interview, May 2002, Vol.1, No.2. Of course, I still have this Little Australian. P.S.: If you are interested in more What was your first meteorite?, the Meteorite Times Magazine interviews (Meteorite People) are an excellent source because virtually all of those interviewed were asked this question! P.S.S.: Speaking of John Blennert's generous gifts, I would like to add that one of my most beautiful Gold Basin meteorites is such a generous gift from John. He sent it (two of them,...to be exact!) in May 1999 and it arrived just a few days after my 54th birthday anniversary. It weighs a whopping 76 grams, it still has traces of its original black fusion crust beneath a thin layer of caliche, and it is definitely flight-marked. Another meteorite that will never leave this collection! Best wishes, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Hello List, I still have my first meteorite, a 15 gram Gao I bought at a rock and fossil shop here in Michigan back in 1996. I paid $80.00 for it! I also have my first find, a 100+ gram puzzle I found in Gold Basin in 2000. Neither of these will leave my collection. : ) Happy Hunting, Larry Atkins BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad -Holbrook on Ebay
Hello List, I have an auction closing in less than an hour. There's a nice 26.9 gram crusted fragment of holbrook at $7.40 a gram, about half the normal going price! http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-Crusted-Holbrook-Meteorite-Frag-26-9g_W0QQitemZ25008 5913929QQihZ015QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Thanks, Larry BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Fwd: Meteorite in New Hampshire
Gary, List, Great effort Gary! You have to go look if you're going to find them. : ) I've lived in lake country here in Michigan for most of my life, grew up here.The county I'm in has 400+ lakes, not including ponds! I lived on a lake almost all of my life and and I've been an ice fisherman virtually all that time. I've noticed these holes as long as I can remember. Perhaps I'm wrong, but here's my proposed scenario for your meteorite hole suspect. Pond freezes, small amount of snow accumulates, there's a spot above the spring that's not freezing as fast and may be open. Muskrats and mink may also use this as a spot to get air and feed, sometimes keeping a hole open late into winter. This doesn't appear to be the case though as there was not an abundance of vegetation on the ice, as would be if muskrats were feeding there. Anyway, the ice thickens to several inches, it warms up a bit, then snow starts to melt. This leaves a layer of water on top of the ice. At the same time, the hole from the spring will grow a little from the snow melt that is flowing into the pond through the hole. This leaves a spider web like pattern on the ice. Now, just before the two feet of snow falls, the temperature drops, creating a layer of ice on the surface of the melted snow water that's on the already frozen lake surface. Two feet of snow falls and blankets the pond, insulating the ice from a deeper freeze. You will have a thin layer of ice, perhaps a few inches, then a layer of liquid water, then another layer of usually thicker ice, then the pond. The spider web like pattern that was a wet trench, catches snow that gets slushy, thereby catching more snow, until you actually have a bump that may look like a splash because it is irregular, follow me? VOILA! I've observed this many times. Cheers, Larry A freshwater spring can move around over a period of years, or a new one may pop and last a while and redirect it's self back to the main one, that's why she thought the spring was in a different location. In a message dated 2/23/2007 12:08:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes: Thanks for the link Goran. It is most telling that there was no mud on the surface of the ice. From your referred webpage; Meteorite made 4 meter wide hole in the ice and mud was spread over 24 x 33 m wide area around the hole. Alo,. the fact that no chunks of ice were found around the hole. Do you think the heat or ferocity of a presumed impact might have melted or shattered them to minute fragments indestinguishable from snow? The story about the hole getting bigger the first day is one part of it. That too disturbs me. But there are thermal qualities that might have caused this. Perhaps the suddenly open water, being warmer than the surrounding ice gave the hole time to enlarge before stunning cold set back in and froze it all back up? Just conjecture. We had a number of similar appearances of holes in ice 5-10 years ago but none yielded any meteorites. I wonder why this time period of 5 to 10 years is so short? Why not all the time? ... but I hope I'm wrong. Me too:) Thanks, Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com) _http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list_ (http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list) BRBRBR**BR AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ---BeginMessage--- Gary, List, Great effort Gary! You have to go look if you're going to find them. : ) I've lived in lake country here in Michigan for most of my life, grew up here.The county I'm in has 400+ lakes, not including ponds! I lived on a lake almost all of my life and and I've been an ice fisherman virtually all that time. I've noticed these holes as long as I can remember. Perhaps I'm wrong, but here's my proposed scenario for your meteorite hole suspect. Pond freezes, small amount of snow accumulates, there's a spot above the spring that's not freezing as fast and may be open. Muskrats and mink may also use this as a spot to get air and feed, sometimes keeping a hole open late into winter. This doesn't appear to be the case though as there was not an abundance of vegetation on the ice, as would be if muskrats were feeding there. Anyway, the ice thickens to several inches, it warms up a bit, then snow starts to melt. This leaves a layer of water on top of the ice. At the same time, the hole from the spring will grow a little from the snow melt that is flowing into the pond through the hole. This leaves a spider web like pattern on the ice. Now, just before the two feet of snow falls, the temperature drops, creating a layer of ice on the
[meteorite-list] Holbrook Auction - AD
Hello List, Yes, I know the rules about one 'AD' post per week, sorry, won't happen again, but I have to tell you that there are 2 pieces without bids yet! This is a no reserve auction, right now they could be had for a penny! I pay shipping. This is a great opportunity to get a chunk of the biggest Holbrook found in about 40 years, for dirt cheap. http://www.fallingfusion.com/ Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Holbrook Auction
Hello List, A sincere thanks to the bidders and congratulations to the winners! It was great fun! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments
Hello List, I'm sitting here, looking at all these fragments, realizing I just don't need this much Holbrook! I doubt the large piece will ever leave my collection, however.. I have selected five pieces to offer the list, I thought I would take offers over the next 24 hours, highest bidders win. I don't have a website so interested persons will have to email me for pictures. I will be available tonight for the next 3 hours or so. I have to work tomorrow so will not be able to respond or send pic's until I get home at about 4:00 pm. All five are partially crusted fragments weighing 29.5g, 11.68g, 8.62g, 2.81g and .87g. The .87 has only a spot of crust. Sale ends at 8:00 pm eastern tomorrow. If you are bidding, Good Luck! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments
In a message dated 2/14/2007 10:14:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi List, Can anybody forward photos of Larry's fragments to me? I had to work late tonight, and I don't think I'll get them from him in time to consider bidding. I have plenty of mailbox space, so don't worry about bombarding me with too may meteorites.er, photos... ;-) Clear skies, Mark Vail, AZ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 6:08 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ad - Holbrook Fragments Hello List, I'm sitting here, looking at all these fragments, realizing I just don't need this much Holbrook! I doubt the large piece will ever leave my collection, however.. I have selected five pieces to offer the list, I thought I would take offers over the next 24 hours, highest bidders win. I don't have a website so interested persons will have to email me for pictures. I will be available tonight for the next 3 hours or so. I have to work tomorrow so will not be able to respond or send pic's until I get home at about 4:00 pm. All five are partially crusted fragments weighing 29.5g, 11.68g, 8.62g, 2.81g and .87g. The .87 has only a spot of crust. Sale ends at 8:00 pm eastern tomorrow. If you are bidding, Good Luck! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Mark, List, You can go to Ryan Pawelski's site and see some pic's now. He's still working to get some more pic's up. http://www.fallingfusion.com/ Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Larry's Holbrook Holy Grail Find
Hello Dave, Rubin, John G and List, I want to thank everyone for the kind comments, both public and private, I'm happy to have made a small splash in the big meteorite pond. A special thanks goes out to Dave Andrews for his hospitality while we visited his town, and most of all for leading me right to the Find of a Lifetime or Holy Grail of Holbrook as Dave so fondly called it within minutes of showing it to him. Thanks Dave, it wouldn't have happened if you were not there. I'd like to show all the pictures of the find, tell the story and comment on the conditions which the meteorite was found, etc. However, I'm going to attempt my first article for Meteorite magazine and I will share the story there. Thanks again for the nice words, Larry Atkins Also.. It was a great to meet a bunch of you good folks down in Tucson. Moni, Mark Bowling, Ruben, Mr Grondine, all others I can't name at the moment, it was my pleasure. Mexico Doug, I thought there still may be some fragments left in the Holbrook find site, but I decided to leave them for the first fortunate soul to get there and mine the patch.. Lucky you too! In a message dated 2/12/2007 11:53:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola Johnny Q, You may be right, but as large as that piece was, it might have taken a couple of years or so for it to be washed or eroded out. But you are right, it was found near the top of a moundjust slightly down from the top. Even one fragment was found under a cow pie. ;-) The miniscule 69 gms. I found that day (largest fragment 43 gms...one of my better days), just didn't seem worth fussing over after Larry's whopper Holy Grail find. ;-) I hope we can post some pictures with some meaning and size scale to it. I have some. The pictures Mark posted (thanks Mark) have no indication as to size. Also, I think that minus the fragment weights, should be worded plus the fragment weights. I know that piece is at least a kilo in weight. Maybe the largest Holbrook in 30 yrs. or so? Maybe Steve Schoner could refresh our memory on his/or others finds? I know he has found some large ones in the past. As far as Bernd's question as to the distribution of large to small stones, I see no pattern whatsoever. Seems to my personal experience, the larger ones are in the middle of the north side. However, there are records of 5 lbs. found on the south side in 1969. (Everet Gibson, I believe). I/we've found a lot of stuff on the south side, but as to when I was there, nothing of size larger than 20 gmsthen came Maria last year. She found 100g or so of an individual in the eastern past on the south side. Nothing that says the larger ones are found in the furthest part of the strewnfield. I've been working on finding things further from the horizontal and vertical plane of the field. I feel in the last few years that we have expanded the 2 mile x 1/2 mile rule by quite a bit. I'm only sharing this info because it really isn't easy to just walk in here and find something substantial. WellI take that back...Larry just did it. Congrats to Larrydon't know how you did it, but you did it. Dave (Sending this as plain text in hopes it will be posted) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] My First Holbrook- WOW!
Hello List, A quick note to tell you all that Maria Haas, Dave Andrews and myself hunted today and at about 11:30 am I found my first Holbrook. I'm more than pleased to tell you all that it weighs about a kilo and a half! Probably the biggest one to come out of there in quite a few years. Dave found a nice puzzle and Maria found a small one as well. I won't be able to send pictures for a while or respond to emails until I get home on the 12th. Yahoo!!! Larry Atkins Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ebay Items- Some with Free Micro Pic's CD!
Hello List, I have 15 auctions ending in the next couple days. Most are micro's, including Norton County, Mt Egerton, Gold Basin, Franconia, and some African unclassifieds. Several include a free Micro-Pic'sCD showing the magnified interior of the specimen, pretty cool! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQrdZ0? Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD ebay Items- Some with Free Micro Pic's CD!
Hello List, I have 15 auctions ending in the next couple days. Most are micro's, including Norton County, Mt Egerton, Gold Basin, Franconia, and some African unclassifieds. Several include a free Micro-Pic's CD showing the magnified interior of the specimen, pretty cool! http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1 QQrdZ0? Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Driving a meteorite?
In a message dated 7/17/2006 3:34:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All,I was just wondering if anyone else out there drives a meteoritevehicle. What I mean by that is that the name of your car/van/trucketc. is somehow related to meteorites.Personally,I have a Toyota Sienna which is named after the Italiantown where a famous and historically significant meteorite fell in1794.Any others? Just curious.Martin__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list I drive a Yukon, (Tagish Lake) " Blazer", does that count? -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wanted: Meteorites With Craters
In a message dated 6/17/2006 9:37:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for meteorites with micrometeoroid impact pits/craters. Let me know if you have something! Mike Bandli __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Hello Mike, I don't think I'm willing to part with these hard won Franconia beauties but I'd be happy to share the images. Be sure to look at the last one in the series of pic's. http://community.webshots.com/album/349518553fwMCMj -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD- Mt Egerton aubrite, Franconia, 16 slices of distressed ghubara for .99
Hello List, I have a few auctions closing soon and there are some good deals to be had. Mt Egerton aubrite, Norton County aubrite, Vaca Muerta meso, and more still at .99 There are free micro pic's included with a Franconia end cut and an Allende part slice, fun stuff! I also have 16 slices of distressed ghubara for .99 at the moment. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZalienrockfarmQQhtZ-1QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1 QQrdZ0? Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine
In a message dated 4/9/2006 1:29:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Don: Where are you located? You are the second person to say they got their issue. The first was in Tenn.; I think I could have walked it there faster. Larry PS I hope it was worth the wait. We should be faster with the next issue (I hope). Quoting Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mine arrived yesterday. Don --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I was just reading another fine issue of Meteorite Times and clicking on the various links there. According to the Meteorite Magazine link, the Feb. issue was mailed in late March. Has anyone received their copy yet? Like many of you, I've been anticipating this issue for some time. Thanks, Bob King mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. Lebofsky Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratoryyou feed him for a day. 1541 East UniversityIf you teach a man to fish, University of Arizona you feed him for a lifetime. Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX: 520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com _http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list_ (http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list) Hi Don, Mine arrived here in Michigan on Saturday. Long awaited and worth the wait, good job! -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine (Correction)
In a message dated 4/9/2006 1:29:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Don:Where are you located? You are the second person to say they got their issue. The first was in Tenn.; I think I could have walked it there faster.LarryPS I hope it was worth the wait. We should be faster with the next issue (I hope).Quoting Don Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mine arrived yesterday. Don --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings all, I was just reading another fine issue of Meteorite Times and clicking on the various links there. According to the Meteorite Magazine link, the Feb. issue was mailed in late March. Has anyone received their copy yet? Like many of you, I've been anticipating this issue for some time. Thanks, Bob King mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Dr. Larry A. LebofskySenior Research ScientistCo-editor, Meteorite "If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day.1541 East University If you teach a man to fish,University of Arizona you feed him for a lifetime."Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese ProverbPhone: 520-621-6947FAX: 520-621-8364e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]__Meteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Correction, Great Job Larry! Time for bed I guess. Larry Atkins __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Correction
Correction, Great Job Larry! Time for bed I guess. Larry Atkins __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Franconia Pictures - L Chondrites
Hello List, I have just posted some pictures of the meteorites I recovered in February to my Webshots page. Unfortunately, the images I made during my trip are too high of resolution to post to the site, so I could only post pic's that I took at home. There are only two, one photo is of the three L chondrites that I found, and one is of a sanded surface to show the lower metal content. If anyone is interested in the actual in-situ pic's, email me off list and I will forward them to you. http://community.webshots.com/album/548494173VagrKd Thanks, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Luck is what happens when opportunity meets preparedness . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Report- Question
Hello List, I recently spent four days in the Franconia strewn field. I didn't find very many but I had a great time camping and enjoying the desert experience. I sacrificed the first day to hunting the extreme south end of the field in search of something big. I knew there was a slim chance of finding the mother load but hey, I had to try! I spent the second, third and fourth day hunting in the area where the possible L chondrites have been found. I recovered numerous H's and little irons last April and I wanted to add the L's to my collection. I found three of them, one each day, talk about tough hunting! I'm sure there is still a lot of material out there but it doesn't come easy. The stones I found were rather small, 42.88 grams, 22 grams and 20.46g's. My question is about this other material, the possible L chondrites. Does anyone know if these are indeed L's? If so, how much of this stuff has been found out there? Also, has any work been done to verify this is a different fall? I do believe the irons are from the same fall as the H chondrites but I'm not sure about this other stuff, they look a little fresher. Any info is appreciated. Thanks, Larry Atkins IMCA # 1941 Luck is what happens when opportunity meets preparedness . __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Okay, who can identify this?
In a message dated 2/21/2006 8:00:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Howdy Looks like an oolite to me, like this one: http://www.env.duke.edu/eos/geo41/sed009.gif They're from shallow marine/saline environments, formed either by rolling small particles on a beach via wave action. I've got some from the seaside reaches of the Nullarbor plain that look like that. Where'd you get it? Cheers, MDF I've had this for years but just recently found it again. It weighs 579 grams. It may be wrong and it may be 'rite. http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/whatzit.jpg http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/whatzit_small.jpg __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Marc Fries Postdoctoral Research Associate Carnegie Institution of Washington Geophysical Laboratory 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW Washington, DC 20015 PH: 202 478 7970 FAX: 202 478 8901 - I urge you to show your support to American servicemen and servicewomen currently serving in harm's way by donating items they personally request at: http://www.anysoldier.com (This is not an endorsement by the Geophysical Laboratory or the Carnegie Institution.) __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com _http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list_ (http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list) Hello, I agree with Marc, it looks a lot like the oolites I find in Michigan. -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket?
Hello List, This is a great topic! I'm currently carrying a Franconia end cut of about 6 grams in my pocket, I carry it everyday. I've had pocket pieces for several years now. I'm an electrician and I go to a lot of residential homes to do service work, often times I can tell that the customer is a rock enthusiast- an opening for a lesson in meteorites! Only two days ago this happened and it turned out that the husband and wife were both geologists. I gave a quick demonstration and lesson while changing out some ceiling fans and installing some recessed lights. They are now interested in adding a meteorite to their extensive mineral and rock collection. I carry small pieces for another reason too. Just about six weeks ago I was installing a generator at an old brewery in Ann Arbor Mi. when a boy of about 12 came wondering through the property picking up pieces of glassy slag, I asked him about this and he informed me that he had quite a rock collection and these slags were cool additions. Of course I asked him if he had any meteorites, and when his eyes lit up I could see the wonder, he said no, so I handed over a beautiful Ghubara slice that had been riding arond in my pocket for several monthes! Later I met his mother and gave her the specifics on it so that they would know what they have. That's why I carry a pocket piece. As for a favorite, it's random. -Larry Atkins -Original Message- From: Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, 08 Jan 2006 17:31:16 -0500 Subject: [meteorite-list] Rock in your Pocket? Do you carry a meteorite in your pocket regularly? If yes, what is your favorite piece to carry? Gary http://www.meteorite-dealers.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] What is It?
Hello List, Anyone checked this out in person? Any idea what it is? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=6538683982rd=1 -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Arizona Find....
Congratulations! Three cheers for Bill! Larry -Original Message- From: Bill Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:36:05 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] New Arizona Find Hello List, I am very happy to announce that the chondrite I found in January is now classified by Lora Bleacher at ASU. I do not have all the information yet, but it looks to be an L5, S1, W3 If some of you remember your guesses just by looking were right on the money! This sure is exciting stuff for someone fairly new to this fascinating world of meteorites! So far there is about 870 grams with a 465 gram main mass. Cheers, Bill __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] What is It?
Dave, List, I must've missed that thread. There certainly seems to be a hint of crackpotedness for sure! The rock is very interesting however, I've never seen anything like it before. Do you have any pic's Dave? Thanks, Larry -Original Message- From: Dave Freeman mjwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 18:53:00 -0600 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What is It? I believe that a week ago we determined this to be a crackpot. Iron rich olivine basalt is my blind guess at what it may be. I have some somewhere. DF [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Anyone checked this out in person? Any idea what it is? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory239iteme38683982rd=1 -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 869 Micro Photo's
Hello List, With all the talk about NWA 869 I thought I would upload some of my favorite pic's to my Webshots site for you all. Some of the inclusions and chondrules are a bit nutty looking and definately deserve a look! http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewallalbumID=368729656ran=5173ook. Enjoy, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Oops, Correction!
Sorry, wrong url. Here's the right one. http://community.webshots.com/album/368729656nhKOIv Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Small AD - Small Meteoriterites - Ebay
Hello List, I have two auctions ending this evening, a very affordable Gold Basin and an Allende with the usual free CD. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZalienrockfarm Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Hidden Treasure
Good Morning List, Dean, A few monthes ago my brother and I made the short drive to Dean Besseys 'cross the river, where we spent all our pennies on different treasures of the world, stockpiled in Deans humble apartment. It was great, lots of meteorites, fossils, old coins, a lap machine for polishing, we were definately like two kids in a candy store! We bought the lap machine as well as some examples of the items mentioned above. After haveing the lap machine at home for a while I was polishing some slices when one of them got away and was lodged under the lap wheel where I could not reach it. I had to tip it on its side to get the slice to fall out, and when I did this there was a little surprise. A 3.72 gram end cut of an unidentified meteorite was hiding under the lap wheel! Obviously a left over remnant from another persons day of meteorite labors. Was it Deans? Or did he leave it there for me as a freebie to be found at a later date just because he's a nice guy? Or did it belong to the guy that he bought the machine from? What kind of meteorite is it? Am I the rightful owner of this small treasure? Or do I need to do the right thing and see if Dean wants it back? Of course he can have it back if he wants,(small polishing fee of $45.00 of course) but is this a good case for Finders keepers?! Would it be different if the slice was lunar vs. an OC? I'm offering it back to him of course, but what would you do? What if you found a slice of an anomolous martian hiding in there? Just a friendly survey! I haven't told Dean, I thought I would have some fun with it first! I need some help identifying it. It's a really cool stone, not quite like any I'm familiar with. There is hardly any attraction to a magnet, what little metal there is, is in round beads. There are some very well defined chondrules and some blown out ones, and there is a really odd inclusion that I would like some opinions on. It's a sort of yellow gold color with black stripes, you'll know which one when you see it. http://community.webshots.com/album/354985092HCtnUp Also, I was asked to write a Franconia field report for the IMCA website. I want to thank Ken Newton for putting it together so well, excellent job Ken! It can be viewed here; http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/fieldreports.html Rock On! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Iron Impact Crater Pic's
Hello List, Good morning, I just finished uploading some cool pictures to my webshots page. The Franconia irons, (most likely metal fragments from the H chondrite,) occasionally have impact craters on them. I have photographed them at 40X and 100X. There are pictures of a perfectly oriented BB with craters, views of micro flow lines, and 'crater fields' in miniature! See the last photo album on this page; http://community.webshots.com/user/microman108 Have a Meteoritic Day, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia Iron Impact Crater Pic's
Hello Bill, List, That is an excellent example of how these irons came to be. I've seen some individuals with big flat squares of iron sticking out. One of the stones I have is similar to the one you have but not as dramatic, the metal is not peeling off, it's flat on the broken surface and is about 1/4 inch x 1/8 inch and very thin. Regards, Larry -Original Message- From: Bill Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, 21 May 2005 07:09:03 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Franconia Iron Impact Crater Pic's Hello Larry and List, I also have quite a few irons from Franconia that show what appear to be impact craters in them. Here is a slice of the Franconia H5 actually showing one on the controversial irons that was in the process of separating from it's chondrite parent. Or at least this is how it looks to an amateur ;) At any rate these are very interesting photos... http://www.nuggetshooter.com/imagesMET/franshediron001.jpg http://www.nuggetshooter.com/imagesMET/franshediron002.jpg Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:44 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Franconia Iron Impact Crater Pic's Hello List, Good morning, I just finished uploading some cool pictures to my webshots page. The Franconia irons, (most likely metal fragments from the H chondrite,) occasionally have impact craters on them. I have photographed them at 40X and 100X. There are pictures of a perfectly oriented BB with craters, views of micro flow lines, and 'crater fields' in miniature! See the last photo album on this page; http://community.webshots.com/user/microman108 Have a Meteoritic Day, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD; Franconia, Allende, Gold Basin, Saharan
Havin' fun with ebay and space rocks! Free micro pic CD to winning bidders! http://search.ebay.com/_Collectibles_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsacurZ0QQsorefinesearchZ1QQfclZ3QQcatrefZC5QQsojsZ1QQfrppZ50QQsacatZ1QQcatrefZC6QQsargnZ-1QQsaslcZ2QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsadisZ200QQfposZ48329QQsaslopZ1QQsaslZalienrockfarmQQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1 Peace, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sceptical Inquirer article
Yeah, what he said! Thanks Sterling, for saying what I can't. Excellent! Larry -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, 09 May 2005 03:11:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sceptical Inquirer article Hi, Darren, List But Morrison is playing a game of his own, the game of the politics of consensus truth. The media is not obligated to present only views which represent a consensus. Yes, they are guilty of hyperbole and outright blather, and yes, British newspapers are sensational trash, but when was that not true? Would there have been no reporting of Alvarez, the iridium, the KT boundary until there was consensus? Until we found Chicxulub? Until we agreed it was the cause of dino demise? Until now? Let's not rush into this; it's only been 25 years... Or, take this: In 2003, the old idea that both the Great Chicago Fire of 1871 and another conflagration more than a hundred miles north in Wisconsin were started by hot stones falling from the sky was revived. In the cases where we have been able to estimate the surface temperature of just-fallen meteorites (such as where they land on snow or ice), the data indicate that they are cool. I follow the rule of thumb that if a meteor or meteorite is reported to have started a fire, the claim is probably mistaken. Having posted on this complicated case myself in some (probably boring) detail, I'm annoyed at the idea that the way to evaluate a phenomenon is to apply a rule of thumb without examining any evidence, just as the French Academy knew that stones do not fall from the sky. While there are a few goony web sites that make the hot rock mistake, what we are talking about here is air-bursts. If you seriously think a thermal air-burst can't start fires, you should talk to the folks who used to live in the Tunguska Terrace subdivision or go stand under an A Bomb test. In fact, the testimony of the (few) survivors of the Peshtigo Fire give some of the best descriptions of air-burst events that I've ever seen, if you allow for the fact that they being given by people who had no idea of what it was that they were experiencing. It was 1871, and the fact that they attributed what are their clear descriptions of air-bursts to vague XIXth century explanatory notions is irrelevant. They accurately reported what they saw and felt and suffered the consequences of; it's just that we know what those events were and they didn't. In the thousands of pages of witness statements about the Chicago, Peshtigo, or the many other simultaneous fires that night, there is not one account nor even one word about hot rocks falling from the sky or starting fires. Not one. As if designed to make me happy, this is immediately followed by: A common assertion in the tabloid press and on some Web sites is that we are at great risk from impacts, because impacts happen much more frequently than the scientists claim. Again, we've had this topic on the List about fall rate many times, and the official (if there is such a thing) fall rate of 25,000 meteorites per year for the Earth is clearly too darn low! (I had to go back and change that word to darn -- I don't really talk that way.) It's off by a considerable multiple. If the fall rate for small objects is too low by a factor of five or six or more, then by the magic of the power law of mass distribution, the fall rate for everything bigger is in error by the same factor. Now, maybe you think that the idea that a Tunguska sized impact event, big enough to kill everybody in small country the size of Belgium is actually six times more likely to happen than we thought it was is not a great risk, but I don't. Then, he chews on some recently reported possible impact sites. They are dismissed for lack of evidence, but since none of them have been investigated to any great extent yet, that's just a straw dog. Then, he attacks the dark comet hypothesis. Remember, this is a hypothesis, not a theory (as he calls it), and a reasonable one. We have had plentiful evidence that Kuiper Belt objects, like the recently discovered Sedna, have very very dark surfaces, whether the result of space weathering or a chemical surface peculiarity, and we know that old comets become darker as volatiles are boiled off by successive passes through the warmer inner System, and that a few dark asteroids have turned out to be dead comets. It is reasonable to suggest that there might be a population of dark comets, and it would be reasonable to look and see if there are. Pooh-pooh, don't bother, he says. Ah, Science At Work... Looking around for any other old dogs to kick, he does a long bit on Louis Frank. I note that he uses all the approved techniques of the scientific method in this part of the piece. He calls his subject by a nick-name, Lou, like he was some
[meteorite-list] Meteorites with Impacts
Hello List, I'm a bit late on this subject, but I didn't see any mention of the tiny Franconia irons. Some of them also have very distinct impact pits. I'll try to photograph them and put them on my webshots site. -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] in situ
Great Rock Bill! I must have overlooked that one! I can't wait to go back in February: ) -Larry -Original Message- From: Bill Southern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 18:12:47 -0700 Subject: [meteorite-list] in situ Hello list, Just thought I'd share a photo of a very nice 325 gram Franconia, AZ in as found condition. It was one of several on Saturday, but this one really put a smile on my face. The detector coil in the photo is 14 long for reference... http://www.nuggetshooter.com/fimage/FR423insitu.jpg Bill S. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Franconia Field Trip
Hello List, I thought I would share some photo's of my first outing in the Franconia strewn field. There are pictures of meteorites in-situ, as well as some wildlife shots. I also wanted to thank Dennis Wells and Jim Smaller for their genuine hospitality and competent advice, they were a big help. Sincerely, LarryFranconia is the last album on the page. http://community.webshots.com/user/microman108 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD (Delete) Gold Basin Metorites
Good Evening List, I have a few auctions about to end, thought I would let folks know. http://search.ebay.com/Gold-Basin-meteorite_W0QQsojsZ1QQfromZR40 Thanks, Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] eBay AD- Gold Basin, '869, Howardite, unclass Saharan
Hello List, I have some great auctions ending soon. Winning bidders get free micro pic's CD with specimen! Later tonight I will be putting a couple Norton County Aubrite micro's on as well! Thanks, Larry http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ50QQsassZalienrockfarm __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery Minerals Formed in Fireball from Colliding Asteroid That Destroyed the Dinosaurs
Hello List, In addition to the micro sphereules found around the world in the KT boundary material, there are also pseudomorph octahedral microcrysts that were not mentioned in the article. These I find quite interesting because they don't appear to be the result of the impact as much as being from the actual impactor, and are possibly extraterrestrial. There is conflicting opinion as to origin, however I've spoke to one of the lead investigators and he believes they are extraterrestrial. To read more about the microsphereules and the microcrysts see this link; http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/300/5626/1734 Pictures of microcrysts and sphere's; http://www.sciencemag.org/content/vol300/issue5626/images/large/se2231597003.jpeg It should also be noted that the sphere's and the crystals are found in two different impact boundary layers, KT and EG, and are separate events, with more than 250 ma between them! That brings up an interesting question. If the microcrysts are indeed from the impactor, and they have reached us at least two different times over millions of years, where are they from? We don't find these in meteorites as far as I can tell. Are they formed from the impact instead? If so, what dynamics would come into play to create these octahedrons, put a silicate eye in the center of some of the crystal faces, and make enough of them to blanket the world? This inquiring mind wants to know. Peace, Larry -Original Message- From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:12:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] Mystery Minerals Formed in Fireball from Colliding Asteroid That Destroyed the Dinosaurs http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2005-03/uoc-mmf032105.php Public release date: 23-Mar-2005 Contact: Steve Koppes [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 773-702-8366 University of Chicago http://www.uchicago.edu Robin Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 212-496-3419 American Museum of Natural History http://www.amnh.org Ann Cairns [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-357-1056 Geological Society of America http://www.geosociety.org Mystery minerals formed in fireball from colliding asteroid that destroyed the dinosaurs Scientists at the American Museum of Natural History and the University of Chicago have explained how a globe-encircling residue formed in the aftermath of the asteroid impact that triggered the extinction of the dinosaurs. The study, which will be published in the April issue of the journal Geology, draws the most detailed picture yet of the complicated chemistry of the fireball produced in the impact. The residue consists of sand-sized droplets of hot liquid that condensed from the vapor cloud produced by an impacting asteroid 65 million years ago. Scientists have proposed three different origins for these droplets, which scientists call spherules. Some researchers have theorized that atmospheric friction melted the droplets off the asteroid as it approached Earth's surface. Still others suggested that the droplets splashed out of the Chicxulub impact crater off the coast of Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula following the asteroid's collision with Earth. But analyses conducted by Denton Ebel, Assistant Curator of Meteorites at the American Museum of Natural History, and Lawrence Grossman, Professor in Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago, provide new evidence for the third proposal. According to their research, the droplets must have condensed from the cooling vapor cloud that girdled the Earth following the impact. Ebel and Grossman base their conclusions on a study of spinel, a mineral rich in magnesium, iron and nickel contained within the droplets. Their paper is an important advance in understanding how these impact spherules form, said Frank Kyte, adjunct associate professor of geochemistry at the University of California, Los Angeles. It shows that the spinels can form within the impact plume, which some researchers argued was not possible. When the asteroid struck approximately 65 million years ago, it rapidly released an enormous amount of energy, creating a fireball that rose far into the stratosphere. This giant impact not only crushes the rock and melts the rock, but a lot of the rock vaporizes, Grossman said. That vapor is very hot and expands outward from the point of impact, cooling and expanding as it goes. As it cools the vapor condenses as little droplets and rains out over the whole Earth. This rain of molten droplets then settled to the ground, where water and time altered the glassy spherules into the clay layer that marks the boundary between the Cretaceous and Tertiary (now officially called the Paleogene) periods. This boundary marks the extinction of the dinosaurs and many other species. The work that led to Ebel and Grossman's Geology paper was triggered by a talk the latter attended at a scientific meeting
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Re: [meteorite-list] First meteorites
All Right Todd! A much deserved round of applause goes out to you! You've joined the ranks of a very few, fortunate group of individuals. Well done! I just re-lived the euphoric feelings experienced with my first, and every find! Good luck, and thanks for letting us know about your good fortune. -Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello List, I decided to try out the ebay thing, I have a great 23+ gram, cut and polished slice. It also comes with a CD that has micro pic's of the wonderful characteristcs found inside! You should look even if not interested in bidding. There is less than 4 hours to go! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemrd=1item=6508335461ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT I'll be leaving for Franconia in a day or two, anybody care to share info? Thanks! Larry __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] Thin Section Photo's / Tucson
Hello Folks, It's been quite a while since I've posted, I guess it's time to step up to the plate! I wanted to let you all know that my brother Rich and I will be participating in the Tucson Show again this year. I'll be there from Jan 30 until Feb. 8th. My brother is going to be there through the 14th of Feb. We will have our 451 gram (originally 638 gram) Park Forest on display and for sale. It can be seen on page 25 of the July 2003 issue of "Sky and Telescope" magazine, and it is center stage on the "Park Forest Meteorite" poster made by the Tomaselli's, which is available in "Meteorite" magazine. I am going to include it in Michael Bloods auction if I haven't waited too long. We'll also have a few other meteorites for sale as well. You won't find us in the meteorite corridor however, as that is not what we are really there for. We can be found at the "La Quinta Inn" ( formerly the Holiday Inn Express) room 133, at I-10 and Starr Pass Blvd. To visit us you must pass over to the other side so to speak, and visit the metaphysical hotel! How we ended up there is a long story, but it is a meteorite hunting story. A meteorite hunting story gone awry! Some of you know about us, some know the story, but for the rest, in a nut shell; After about 30+ authentic meteorite finds, and several years of small time collecting and endless museum visits, I followed up on a great meteorite lead. Sept. 9, 2001, I went to a 5 acre farm where I was told a witnessed fall, and recovery had occurred a long time ago. The rock was kept in the house for a number of years and later lost after the old folks passed on. Within about an hour and a half of hunting I recovered a stone that fit the bill, setting under an old apple tree next to where the old house had once stood many years ago. It was dark, strongly attracted to a magnet, and when I struck it with a file, bright shiny metal was visible in a dark green, stone matrix. Of course all the hairs on my body stood straight on end! I quickly guessed the stone at 20 + pounds ... wow! Then we joined the circus... I mean, then we began trying to have the stone identified. This is no easy feat for a common electrician and a carpet installer let me tell you! Since all my previous finds were already known falls I had no experience in classification procedures, (and apparently still don't). We started at our local institute where the geologist is an acquaintance of mine. He decided we should take it up to Michigan State so we did. The Dr. there gave me a phone # to a Dr. at Purdue, where I later had the privilege to meet some outstanding Dr.'s in the field, like Brother Guy! What an honor.. anyway, they decided it needed to go to the US Dept. of Energy for Al 26 testing, at the same time we had mailed a small specimen to the Smithsonian in DC It disappeared at the post office due to Anthrax, it was incinerated! The U. S. D. O. E. came back with a heartbreaking conclusion, the good Dr. said that he was so certain it was a meteorite that he tested it for 100 times less Al-26 than he would expect to find in a normal meteorite, and mine had none. "Therefore it is not a meteorite." When I asked him what it was he said he "had no idea," "but there are a few places on Earth where nickel iron bearing rocks can be found." I later found evidence to suggest that a stone high in Mg is not suitable for the Al-26 analyses, this one is 6% Mg, possibly too high for an accurate conclusion. I later had it argon dated at Univ. of Michigan. It was determined to be 45 ma if terrestrial, 75 ma if extra terrestrial. The Dr. that did the test was confounded, he expected it to be 4.5 billion, or less than 100 years if an artifact. He didn't think for a minute it could be an Earth rock. Let's call this Part One, I'll tell some more of the story soon. It will be fun, complete with a lying, stealing dealer, disappearing specimens, suspicious goings on at some prominent establishments, The Elusive Thin Section, all sorts of good stuff. See, this is no ordinary chondrite, it's not ordinary anything! It doesn't match any known rock, terrestrial or otherwise. I have tried to prove that it is slag, I have tried to prove that it is terrestrial, and I have tried to prove that it is a meteorite, and I have had no luck with any of them. This thing has been looked at by many experts and remains nameless. I am not 100% sure what it is. I would give nearly anything to have it written up and classified as something. The reason we are at the La Quinta Inn is because of the Cr spinel crystals that reside inside the stone. They are little pyramids with a sphere locked in the framework of the crystals. The crystal people think they are special, and who am I to argue? When you see them you will understand. After more than two years of research I haven't yet found a single mention of this crystal form anywhere. Apparently it is in this one stone only, hard to believe. Considering the circumstances by which I came into
[meteorite-list] Oxygen Isotope Testing Question
Greetings List, I am looking for a reputable company to provide Oxygen 16, 17, 18 analyses. Suggestions are much appreciated. Thanks, Larry
[meteorite-list] Extraterrestrial Minerals
Hello List, I received a beautiful meteorite specimen from Anne Black at Impactika the other day, (Mt. Tazerzait, 23.21 grams) and I'm amazed at the beautiful chrome crystals that reside in the vugs of this stone. Upon researching this rock I came across several references to "extraterrestrial chromite." I have seen these words before in reference to other minerals that are in meteorites as well. My question(s) is this; What's the difference between terrestrial and extraterrestrial minerals? Is there some sort of signature that defines them? Is it isotopic or chemical? I'm looking for specifics as opposed to generalities. Thanks, Larry
Re: [meteorite-list] Did meteorite slam Oakland? Field Report
Hello Maria and List, I'm glad to see that one of our "Michigan Rep's" was on the scene. You beat me to it! Unfortunately I was working and didn't even hear about it until after you had been there and gone. Too bad it wasn't a meteorite though, maybe next time it will be authentic. I did see you on the news, wonderful! Good job Maria! Regards, Larry
Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: New Blood: Not Just the Job of Dealers
Excellent effort Steve, You have just inspired me to increase my own effect. I have a few small chips around, but I was thinking I could just smack one of my Gold Basins with a hammer and make some more! They're on the way. Larry Atkins
[meteorite-list] Lunar Regolith Soil / Thanks
Hello All, As usual, the 'list' proves to be a great resource for information and expertise from the many wonderful 'listees'. I had many responses to my request for photo's of Lunar soil, and I appreciate the efforts by those that answered my request. Thank You! Larry
[meteorite-list] Lunar Regolith
Hello List, I am looking for photo's of lunar regolith soils, preferably from the Apollo missions, or otherwise. If there are photo's of soil that may have survived in/on a meteorite that would be fine too. I asked before and recieved no response, I'm hoping for some results this time. I have looked at all the NASA sites I could find and have had no luck. I would think there should be some close-ups of the moons soil somewhere. Thanks, Larry
[meteorite-list] Melrose Meteorite
Hello All, I was reading the post from Peter Marmet about the AMM list of meteorites and couldn't help notice the Melrose meteorite, # 4 on the list. "The only American meteorite to contain gold". This meteorite has twice as much gold as what is considered to be "mineable amounts" ! ( ~.35 grams per ton for Melrose, ~.07g's per ton in ore is mineable).This is something of a surprise to me, as I was informed not long ago by a world reknowned representative of the meteorite community,(he's also a man of the cloth, hint) that there are not any meteorites with gold in them except in some irons, and they have only trace amounts. Here's the question(s) ; Melrose is a chondrite...Does the oxygen isotope match the fractionation line of the other chondrites? Is it on a line all its own? Or is it on the terestrial line with the Moon, Earth, and the aubrites? (Aubrites, an entirely different subject, no less interesting... how are they on the same O2 fractionation line as Earth and the Moon?) Have any similar meteorites been found since then, anywhere? Am I to assume this is the one single example of a particular asteroid? These observations, and the answers to these questions point to the obvious fact that we still have a very limited representation of the solar system in our meteorite collections, and that this science really is still in its infancy...many more discoveries are waiting in the lab, and in the field. I think that is part of the mystique that draws me to meteorites. In a world where it seems as if everything has been invented, documented, or discovered, the science of meteorites is ripe with opportunities! I think the Melrose meteorite proves that. Happy Days Starry Nights to All ! Larry
[meteorite-list] Melrose/ correction
Correction! The mineable amount of gold is not 0 .07 grams per ton, actually it is considered 0.17 grams per ton. Sorry! Larry
Re: [meteorite-list] Harassing eBayers
Adam, List, Even though I am not a member of the IMCA (yet), I couldn't agree more with Adam. I't's easy for us to ridicule or chastise the unknowing, uneducated ebay seller. Some of these sellers may actually be trying to mislead, but many are just naive. A perfect case in point is the gentleman I visited here in Michigan on the 4th of July. You may remember he had a 'meteorite' for $15,000.00 and it was 'authenticated' by a school teacher. When I met him I said "I bet you've got a boat load of nasty emails". He said that indeed he did, and he proceeded to show them to me. I was floored by some of the unprofessional, child like reprimands that this innocent man was subjected to. Some of them were very, very accusing, vicious, and intended to do nothing but belittle the man. I was embarassed! I recognized some of the names as list members, I'm sure they know who they are. Your words are inexcusable, and I highly suggest people think before they fly off on a rant the next time an unsuspecting civilian posts a meteorwrong for sale. I felt like half my job was damage control instead of meteorite education, defending the ones that made us all look like spoiled children. Enough said, Larry Atkins
Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Where Did The Moon Come From?
pekka wrote; Well, I don´t see, why a scientist can´t belive in God or in a god or just in a creator, in fact, to me, the name doesn´t matter. Then there are scientists, who have made the science as their god, but I think, they are a bit blind, this "god" corrects itself daily, and if we think some 100 years backwards, the god of sciense looked a bit different than now. It will be same after 100 years. But perhaps it´s better than nothing, if a human don´t have a personal relationship to God or to the creator, he must substitute it in some way. The need to belive is built in our personal system. By whom, I don´t know, but that doesn´t matter. The main thing to me is, the final truth is impossible to underrestand for human brains, just you can see the light, not UV or IP, just a very small sector of all radiaition. So perhaps it´s more important to know, you can´t see all than to think, all is I can see...so it´s a question of beliving, and in this case I belive, we have to honour everyones personal view. take care, pekka I couldn't have said it better, true words of Wisdom Pekka. Larry
Fwd: [meteorite-list] Re: Park Forest- Strewn Field map- by Atul Kumar
---BeginMessage--- LARRY CAN YOU POST THIS EMAIL BELOW ON MET CENTRAL- I CANNOT POST EVEN THOUGH I CAN RECIEVE THEM. THANKS ATUL Dear List I have examinedand catalogued approx 100 plusstonesgreater than 25 gms from this fall,concentrating mostly in the area south of Park Forest. The footprint made by is availableby email as a html inclusion in the body of the email. Pls email me if you wish to see it- The data i have does not match the location shown on the DOD release from Dr Peter Browns website that LArry Atkins fwd'd to me today. The straight line intersection of the flight path with the ground was at 41.56 North latitude, 87.67 West longitude. My collection data ofrecovered locations indicates- a SE to NW direction for the footprint. FROM -41.41648North Lat, 87.58647West Long TO -41.50287 North Lat, 87.69245 West Long The long ellipse is approx 8.2 miles long. Would appreciate your input about this possible anomaly, as these stoneshave only been recovered in populated areas mostly. Also what exactly is The straight line intersection . My rawdata is available for use byall for research,and would appreciate appropriate credit. I spent the better part of 2 months on this fall. Regards Atul Kumar 219-308-8282 EDUCATIONAL OUTREACH CHAIRMAN CALUMET ASTRONOMICAL SOCIETY. WWW.CASONLINE.ORG ---End Message---
