[meteorite-list] new fall ramadan , near foum lahcen , probably HED, 7/10/2014 at 20.00

2014-07-11 Thread aziz habibi via Meteorite-list
dear collecter
yesterday thursday 10 july , two or 3 sonic boom over goum lahcen near thé 
lacalities of ganta , after search today many hunter found some of it

its looking like an hed i think a eucrite with a velvet crus and plagioclass on 
thé crut
enjoy photo


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all thé best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tunisia Large Meteorite Fall with Explosions? 15SEP2013? Unconfirmed!

2013-09-15 Thread aziz habibi
hello dear ross
i  didnt hear anything yet
thanks
aziz
Le 16 sept. 2013 à 03:55, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com a écrit :

 List,
 Can anyone in Moroc confirm this story? Aziz?
 Tunisia Large Meteorite Fall with Explosions? 15SEP2013? Unconfirmed!
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/09/tunisia-large-meteorite-fall-with.html
 
 
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo

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[meteorite-list] ad CM2 jbilet for sales

2013-08-21 Thread aziz habibi
hello all
now that this CM2 is official ;
i have jbilet cm2 for sales 
from 5 gr to 200 GR some are complet individuals and some are broken;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/azizhabibi

please email for price
thanks
aziz
imca #6220

ps:  from now on fallowing thé rules of imca ;
all the photo showing meteorite on MY flickers page are my personnel opinion if 
they are not classified its mean they are unclassified and what i say is what i 
think; thanks

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Re: [meteorite-list] 2-18-07 Update on Walter Branch

2007-02-21 Thread aziz habibi
 good evening all;
i hope walter will recover rapidely and be fine soon, i for myslelf here in 
morroco we pray for him.
and also i wish  iris lang to recover from her hearth attack and to be back to 
us soon.
like i told to a friend lately , meteorite bring a lot of happyness and luck to 
us so i m hoping every one will be fine.
all the best
aziz




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 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 06:47:23 -0800

 Good Morning All,
 this is excellent news!
 We will continue to pray for him and his recovery!
 I am sure your loving family is a wonderful help to him and him wanting to 
 get well very soon.
 With best regards,
 Moni
 From: Walter Branch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] 2-18-07 Update on Walter Branch
 Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 08:09:40 -0500
 
 Good News!
 Walter is still on the ventilator but breathing more on his own.  He still
 has an infection but seems to be responding to the antibiotics.  He is
 receiving nourishment through his NG tube and his stomach is tolerating
 it.
 Please continue to keep him in your prayers.
 Sabrina Branch
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Green MOON OVER TUCSON-photo

2007-02-02 Thread aziz habibi
 

hi matteo ,
do not talk about all morrocans , do not include  all of them, 
if there is no morrocans , there is no meteorite from nwa , and than try  to 
talk about potatos or tomatos, is this clear , keep in mind that you deal with 
other morrocans that are respectable.
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[meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
simpley
mike and hupes are forbiddren  i,n  inmotttoco
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
hello
good night
aziz
azizz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
hello
good night
aziz
azizz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
its over  mike
*you cant make it to morrrocco
aziz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
its over  mike
*you cant make it to morrrocco
aziz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
its over  mike
*you cant make it to morrrocco
aziz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from you. 
You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news

2005-01-01 Thread aziz habibi
mike shupt
aziz
From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 05:17:47 +
hello
good night
aziz
azizz
From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2005 22:01:28 -0700

Aziz, do me a favor, and do not call me or my wife again.
Any problems that I or the Hupes have in Morocco are your doing.
do not call me drunk again, you just left 3 messages on my answering 
machine, babbling like an idiot, drunk. Is not it not illegal for Muslims 
to drink alcohol?
I considered you a friend, but any problems I have in Morocco are from 
you. You are the only one who talks too much, spreads rumors, tells lies.
Why can't you leave people alone?
When you wake up, or sober up, then email me, do not call me.
And do not threaten me.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] sorry bad news


hello list and alll
mike farmer and the hupes could not make it to morrroco again and never 
again.
*i m sorry but  i can  help it
sorry again
but its over


allthe best
aziz
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[meteorite-list] how you young we can start collecting meteorite

2004-12-30 Thread aziz habibi
hello all and happy new year to all
i get yesterday a visit of one of the younguest collector from austria 
alexandre kurt
a nice young man 13 years old that he need nwa 1110  and olivine diogenite 
and nwa 3133
and amgla and bengeurir .
simpley he is wondefull ; anice young guy with anough data to be a good 
collector and this has make me more than happy.
and i know that the futur is assured with new teams.
i m simpley fascinated by this young austrian guy.
he konw christian anger and eric haidrer and all.
wonderfull
i will post post his photo because you need to know this peremium collector
i gived to him  link of the list so you willl see him soon

happy new year
aziz
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[meteorite-list] new meteorite

2004-12-27 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
here is some photo of what i get lately, you can guess what they are
go to new meteorite album.
http://fr.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhabibi/my_photos
we get a new l3.3 regolith breccia ,photo 38 and 39
we get a new mesosedrite and a new ck 5
happy holidays
aziz
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RE: [meteorite-list] A Christmas Story of a Different Kind (Off-topic)

2004-12-23 Thread aziz habibi
merry christmas and happy new year to all
yes bernd life is short and we have to enjoy it.
all the best
aziz
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A Christmas Story of a Different Kind (Off-topic)
Date: 23 Dec 2004 22:11:10 UT
Now - not tomorrow is the time for me ...
.. to wish everybody a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Why now? About two hours ago, I was writing Christmas mails
when suddenly the telephone rang. I thought it was my daughter
but it was the wife of one of my neighbors. Our families have been
friends for almost thirty years now. About seven years ago, he
had to undergo surgery because of a tumor in his brain. Ever
since his physical and mental health has deteriorated - slowly but
steadily until he had his first stroke some time ago. Another stroke
followed a few weeks ago leaving him unable to walk and rendering
him incontinent. Back now to the telephone call - his wife urged us
to come over as quickly as possible because he had fallen out of
his wheelchair and she was unable to lift him up. We ran over to
their house and there he was, on the floor, face down, a poor,
pitiable, helpless creature. We helped get him back into his
wheelchair, he was as heavy as a rock and I offered my help
holding him upright while his wife changed his diapers before
putting him to bed (with joint forces).
I was very depressed, sad, and worn-out when we returned home
but, in spite of or probably because of this occurrence, I do
think this year's Christmas will be something special, a precious
moment of contemplation and reflection for us here.
Wishing everybody all the best,
A Merry, Merry Christmas,
And a Happy New Year,
Bernd
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[meteorite-list] benguerir news

2004-12-17 Thread aziz habibi
hello all
its definetly a nice ll6 breccia, very difrent than bensour,
two labs has stated that its an ll6 breccia..
you can chek photo of thin section here
http://fr.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhabibi/my_photos
all the best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] 4kg/600g meteorite

2004-12-16 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
svend this exactly what happend in this story , braik is not a scam,
he is only trying to find the good stone and he has acces to internet ,
this is why he send email to the list trying to find a buyer for what he 
think its a meteorite
i see each day in erfoud many guys coming to me with what they think its a 
meteorite
and its for us to make the difrence

thanks
aziz
From: Dr. Svend Buhl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 4kg/600g meteorite
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 16:46:42 +0200
Hi Tom and others,
Morocco is one of the Mahgrib countries at the north western coast of the 
African continent, whereas the Middle East is rather a political then a 
geographical term referring to the area situated around the Persian Gulf, 
including the northern countries of the Arabian Peninsula.

Regarding Braik (from Morocco), I don?t think he wants to scam us, he just 
lacks knowledge to tell if a rock is a genuine meteorite although he might 
believe so, based on what he has heard how a proper meteorite should look 
like.

Its not at all easy for the Moroccans to get hold of educating material 
referring to meteorites. Language is another barrier, there are not too 
many websites on meteorites around in Arabic.

Regards
Svend
www.niger-meteorite-recon.de

Tom AKA James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 16.12.04 
15:39:50:

Hi List, One real weird thing about this middle eastern guy, he has
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as an email address, makes me think he lives right here in
the US
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier 
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 Any relation to Mohamed H. Yousef here?

 What do you think guys? Similar, unabated offerings of desert rocks.

 JD



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[meteorite-list] new fall benguerir

2004-12-16 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
as i  promess there is news ,
the benguerir fall is a fantastic fall , the most important lately, and i 
can say the best one that fell in morroco,
this meteorite is a chondrite that has not chondrule  but only relict 
chondrule that average 3- per cm2 ,
highly recrystallised stone and and have withe and gray clast , brecciated 
monomict with rare dark gray shock mels clast, a  veined stone that has 
hundred of veine,
this meteorite was affected by at least 2 major shock events: one that 
caused extensive brecciation, localized melting and minor shock veining
followed by annealing and a second shock event that imparted heavy 
undulatory extinction in olivine
This stone has a beautiful white, sugary interior , together with shock melt 
 veins and clasts.
the studies are in progerss in abaout three labs .
i can say that this  meteorite is an ll6 breccia , and this what i had say 
the first time i have seen it . but could  be also something else. but ,far 
more beautfull than any fall i have seen.
abaout the stone recovred in morroco most of them are broken and we can see 
oriontation in most of them in the crust.
the local people believing that this meteorite sell with gr has broken it 
deviding it  between the finders, so the compleat stone are very rare .
the tkw is becoming abaout 15 kilos for now not taking in consederation what 
the moorocan musuem has take.
we can not say that there is more now because most of the feilds are farmers 
and already rained many time they pass there with the tarcteurs and many 
stone have been damaged.
im my modest opinion i  think that this meteorite is the most beautifull 
fall i have seen in my hand
i will post later photo of  interior of the stone and thinsection

all the best
aziz
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[meteorite-list] good news

2004-12-13 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
its look like it has made it to the top, chrismas time oblige.
we have some explosifs  news coming up today or tomorrow
be ready guys , it look like its our chrismas  gift.
all the best and god bless you all
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers

2004-12-11 Thread aziz habibi
adam
i m a honnest man , and you must pay me a lot of money , you didnt pay me a 
lot of stone
include the nice orionted howerdites that you trade with nwa 032 in denver
i have every email you send me and i have proofs.
what you do not pay aid for the nwa1195 the 300 gr martien , there is three 
years that he is waiting for your 50/50 deals
why do not send any money to the guy from guelmim that gived your brother 
the moon rock in 50/50, and you didnt even told him its a meteorite,
you think you  are honnest  , this is why aid your team lunar rock is crieng 
here that you srewed him on all deals,this why he sold you the mahbas 
palasite and he is selling to all the world except you.
where is your team in morroco now, have you any friend in morroco, have you  
any freind anywhere   except money,
you know why i stoped dealing with you , because i do not like you and i 
have seen that you are becoming theives,
did you ever pay any good money to your partners.no

so now i m going to answer you on everything ,i have been very patient with 
you and not answering on the list , now the game is over  and i m going to 
give proof that you are not honnest.

aziz
From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:29:19 -0800
Habibi,
You owe us a substantial amount of money from your bait-and-switch scams.
Become a credible dealer, pay up and we might gain a little bit of respect
for you.  Calling the police and reporting a fake livestock smuggling
operation to have Team LunarRock jailed was a poor stunt.  It interfered
with an expedition but did not stop it from becoming successful.  Become an
honest man, until then, you continue to give other Moroccans a bad name.
All the best,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:21 PM
Subject: Re:

From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:29:19 -0800
Habibi,
You owe us a substantial amount of money from your bait-and-switch scams.
Become a credible dealer, pay up and we might gain a little bit of respect
for you.  Calling the police and reporting a fake livestock smuggling
operation to have Team LunarRock jailed was a poor stunt.  It interfered
with an expedition but did not stop it from becoming successful.  Become an
honest man, until then, you continue to give other Moroccans a bad name.
All the best,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 hello list and all
 adam wrote..
 Most people involved in
 meteoritics know what kind of person you are so stop riding our hard
work..

 what kind of persons nelson is , he is a wonderfull man  , he loves
 meteorite , he sell only by the time  to make his friends happy , he is
not
 a dealer of meteorite , he collect over 50$ and he didnt sell most 
of
 it. he has one of the most nice collection on the world and he do  not 
say
 it  he is very modest man , he is managing a company of 50 millions 
dollar
 selling silver fabric for diabetics and wounld and health care product ,
he
 is now giving to morrocan people tousend of this  product for free, he
could
 be your dad adam ,so show him more respect ,
 he is not making any competetion to you however he has most of the stone
you
 are selling even the last one you had
 i ask you here to be more respectable with all the list memebers and not
 only nelson
 the way you are acting you are killing the hobby of collecting 
meteorite.
 who care if two stone are paired or not , why you do not  just sell what
you
 want to sell and let people in peace.and let us in peace ,
 this list need more positive energie and good carma to move on the good
way
 each one of the list members have to respect each other and to leave 
like
a
 gentlman with love and respect, in an academic way .


 sincelry
 aziz









 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:47:19 -0800
 
 Dear List,
 
 I was surprised to see this BS about us misusing the designation NWA 
1817
 when I returned home from an expedition late this morning.  Nelson, get
 your
 facts straight.  I own the main mass on NWA 1817.  Most people involved
in
 meteoritics know what kind of person you are so stop riding our hard
work.
 Check out the link below if you have any doubts of NWA 1817 ownership.
 
 http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2004/pdf/5163.pdf
 
 I should be complaining that you are still piggy-backing our numbers 
but
I
 will leave it alone for now

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers

2004-12-11 Thread aziz habibi
adam
i will be in tucson , so now you are trying to make afraid to not come to 
tucson
like you sad to many list members ,
azziz

From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 14:02:54 -0800
Make up all you want.  Just show up in Tucson and hear what reputable
Moroccans have to say about you.  You blamed half of them for the
bait-and-switches you pulled like Brahim. When we asked him about this, he
just said this is the way of Habibi to pay for building hotel.  He does not
go to desert himself ever.

- Original Message -
From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 adam
 i m a honnest man , and you must pay me a lot of money , you didnt pay 
me
a
 lot of stone
 include the nice orionted howerdites that you trade with nwa 032 in 
denver
 i have every email you send me and i have proofs.
 what you do not pay aid for the nwa1195 the 300 gr martien , there is
three
 years that he is waiting for your 50/50 deals
 why do not send any money to the guy from guelmim that gived your 
brother
 the moon rock in 50/50, and you didnt even told him its a meteorite,
 you think you  are honnest  , this is why aid your team lunar rock is
crieng
 here that you srewed him on all deals,this why he sold you the mahbas
 palasite and he is selling to all the world except you.
 where is your team in morroco now, have you any friend in morroco, have
you
 any freind anywhere   except money,
 you know why i stoped dealing with you , because i do not like you and i
 have seen that you are becoming theives,
 did you ever pay any good money to your partners.no

 so now i m going to answer you on everything ,i have been very patient
with
 you and not answering on the list , now the game is over  and i m going 
to
 give proof that you are not honnest.

 aziz

 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:29:19 -0800
 
 Habibi,
 
 You owe us a substantial amount of money from your bait-and-switch 
scams.
 Become a credible dealer, pay up and we might gain a little bit of
respect
 for you.  Calling the police and reporting a fake livestock smuggling
 operation to have Team LunarRock jailed was a poor stunt.  It 
interfered
 with an expedition but did not stop it from becoming successful.  
Become
an
 honest man, until then, you continue to give other Moroccans a bad 
name.
 
 All the best,
 
 Adam
 
 - Original Message -
 From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re:

 From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: habibi abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:29:19 -0800
 
 Habibi,
 
 You owe us a substantial amount of money from your bait-and-switch 
scams.
 Become a credible dealer, pay up and we might gain a little bit of
respect
 for you.  Calling the police and reporting a fake livestock smuggling
 operation to have Team LunarRock jailed was a poor stunt.  It 
interfered
 with an expedition but did not stop it from becoming successful.  
Become
an
 honest man, until then, you continue to give other Moroccans a bad 
name.
 
 All the best,
 
 Adam
 
 - Original Message -
 From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 
 
   hello list and all
   adam wrote..
   Most people involved in
   meteoritics know what kind of person you are so stop riding our 
hard
 work..
  
   what kind of persons nelson is , he is a wonderfull man  , he loves
   meteorite , he sell only by the time  to make his friends happy , he
is
 not
   a dealer of meteorite , he collect over 50$ and he didnt sell 
most
 of
   it. he has one of the most nice collection on the world and he do  
not
 say
   it  he is very modest man , he is managing a company of 50 millions
 dollar
   selling silver fabric for diabetics and wounld and health care 
product
,
 he
   is now giving to morrocan people tousend of this  product for free, 
he
 could
   be your dad adam ,so show him more respect ,
   he is not making any competetion to you however he has most of the
stone
 you
   are selling even the last one you had
   i ask you here to be more respectable with all the list memebers and
not
   only nelson
   the way you are acting you are killing the hobby of collecting
 meteorite.
   who care if two stone are paired or not , why you do not  just sell
what
 you
   want to sell and let

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers

2004-12-11 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
adam wrote..
Most people involved in
meteoritics know what kind of person you are so stop riding our hard work..
what kind of persons nelson is , he is a wonderfull man  , he loves 
meteorite , he sell only by the time  to make his friends happy , he is not 
a dealer of meteorite , he collect over 50$ and he didnt sell most of 
it. he has one of the most nice collection on the world and he do  not say 
it  he is very modest man , he is managing a company of 50 millions dollar 
selling silver fabric for diabetics and wounld and health care product , he 
is now giving to morrocan people tousend of this  product for free, he could 
be your dad adam ,so show him more respect ,
he is not making any competetion to you however he has most of the stone you 
are selling even the last one you had
i ask you here to be more respectable with all the list memebers and not 
only nelson
the way you are acting you are killing the hobby of collecting meteorite.
who care if two stone are paired or not , why you do not  just sell what you 
want to sell and let people in peace.and let us in peace ,
this list need more positive energie and good carma to move on the good way
each one of the list members have to respect each other and to leave like a 
gentlman with love and respect, in an academic way .

sincelry
aziz




From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 11:47:19 -0800
Dear List,
I was surprised to see this BS about us misusing the designation NWA 1817
when I returned home from an expedition late this morning.  Nelson, get 
your
facts straight.  I own the main mass on NWA 1817.  Most people involved in
meteoritics know what kind of person you are so stop riding our hard work.
Check out the link below if you have any doubts of NWA 1817 ownership.

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2004/pdf/5163.pdf
I should be complaining that you are still piggy-backing our numbers but I
will leave it alone for now as I am too tired to deal with this kind of
crap.
Nice gift to come home to,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 5:28 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers
 Rob, So that means the Hupes and Mike are misusing numbers! Never 
thought
 I'd see that happen! Thanks for the heads up!! and nonetheless Merry
 Christmas !!(honestly!) Thanks nels
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:12 AM
 Subject: Accusation of Misusing of NWA numbers


  NWA 1827 - Obtained from Mike Farmer late 2003
  NWA 1817 - Obtained from The Hupes early 2004
 
  Can provide documentation to support both
 
  Yep, just before Christmas
 
 
 
  Rob Wesel
  --
  We are the music makers...
  and we are the dreamers of the dreams.
  Willy Wonka, 1971
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:53 AM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Misusing of NWA numbers
 
 
   Dear List, I thought we just went through an exorcising of the 
misuse
of
   NWA
   numbers! Now after this a this member finds it necessary to use 1827
and
   1817 in his advertisements. Oh well, we may claim we're all high 
born
 and
   accuse everyone else of being evil (while we remain pristine), but 
in
   reality it all comes down to trying to aggravate , name calling and
   generally the pursuit of the dollar. What a shame, and on top of 
that
 just
   before Christmas. The world will never change. Thanks Nels
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir

2004-12-09 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and all
the new fall that i have is all sold , include the orionted one sold  .
what was offered to mike and to other is the same stone  from the same 
source and its already gone for private collection
so for now in morroco there is nothing for sell exept what philipe thomas is 
selling,
well the 4$ our friends sade doesnt exist any more
i  think that this fall will be one of the most expenssive falls ,
also some interting stone from mahbas pallasite are showing up and its not a 
raison to make the prise down.
as i sad before time will tell the trueth,

keep up the good work guys
all the best from nwa
aziz

From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:49:12 -0600
Hi Mike and all,
Yesterday I was offered 5.5 kilos at 24 Dirhams (roughly $3.00) per gram 
and I turned it down as something smelled bad with the urgency of the deal. 
That, and the pieces were broken and large, perfect for cutting however. I 
would have jumped if they were small individuals.

Take care,
Greg
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir nice stone


I was just 5 minutes ago offered 3 kilograms of pieces and individuals at 
35 dirhams per gram, just over $4 gram, and I turned that down.
The flood of this material is coming, just one week ago it was $10 gram 
and virtually nothing was available.
Patience people, it will be available and cheap in a few more weeks.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - From: aziz habibi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir nice stone


hello list
here is photo of a nice benguerir compleat stone 677 gr .
http://fr.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhabibi/my_photos
its may be the first stone to have been founld compleat,
nicely orionted you can see the lips over the face of the stone.
its for sell and i will sell it for the best offer.
let me know your offer.
thanks
aziz
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[meteorite-list] ad , new fall benguerir

2004-12-07 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
i have on road coming to me a stone from the new fall  abaout 680 gr  almost 
compleat  let say 70/100 compleat
i will take the best offer,  so let me know your offer ,
photo available tomorrow

all the best
aziz
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[meteorite-list] benguerir fall

2004-12-03 Thread aziz habibi
hello  all
for now no one know what this fall tkw is.
sur it's a big fall , but for sell there is nothing now, many guys are there 
and no one has one gr.
be patient guys and the next weeks we will know if there is more for sale.
for me i  have not sold any from it untill now ,and i m also waiting to see 
stabilite of price  the first 400 gr i get i bought it for 6$.
i hope i will get it nextly cheaper.
let be patients,
we say in morroco , the information that cost money today is for free next 
day.
time will tell the thrued.

thanks
aziz
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[meteorite-list] main mass of amgala

2004-12-02 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
i have head there months abaout a nice 2.7 kilos of amgala that should be 
the main mass
but after tracking here  photo, i haven't seen them.
may be i will be in tucson next year and i would love to see it  even in 
photo before tucson
that would be good ,

all the best
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Morocco

2004-12-01 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
sincerly the locals have no gps , to use for this data.
i have share with the list the info i get.
and also  ididn't want to go there as i have many thing to manage here in 
town.
well , do not forget that also to hunt in a place where the police is 
rununing  for  every gr is dangerous
i do not like to put my self in that situation  even for a moon rock.

did you get some others photo greg  from the same fall would you be kind and 
share them with the list now. because i do not think that anyone can show 
any photo except philipe who has some of the new fall and it's the only one 
who has some and nelson.
so if you have other photo of this fall this is briant and you have to show 
them to the list now.

all the best
aziz

From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Morocco
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 06:02:45 -0600
Hello Philippe,
Thank you for the data you have collected, this is how it should be done. 
It is odd how it takes someone from outside of Morocco to have to collect 
and present this information to us when it could have been done so easily 
by a local.

Aside from the ...iron and some nickel..., what type of meteorite do you 
think it is? I am hearing a couple things but have not seen much other than 
Habibi's photos and some others from Morocco.

Thanks again for the updates, we appreciate it,
Greg
- Original Message - From: philippe thomas 
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite fall in Morocco

Hello everybody,
I'm actually in Morroco looking for informations about the new fall. Here 
are my observations :

There as been an article published in Liberation (Morocco) on november 
29. I will scan it when I
come back to France. This is the report of a declaration made on the first 
morrocan TV Channel
TVM on saturday night. Mrs Hasne Chennaoui Oudjane (Aïn Chok University of 
Casablanca) told
that the analysis done on the meteorites felt near Ben Guerir reveal that 
they contain some iron
and some nickel and that they come from an environment located between Mars 
and Jupiter.
During this report, they have shown a meteorite weighing about 4kg.

We arrived in Ben Guerir this morning (Nov 30) at 9.00. It's raining.
We took the direction of a little village distant of 20 km, Douar Tnaja. 
There, two witnesses of the
fall show us the place where a stone weighing around 10kg felt. The 
coordinates of this place are
N 32° 15'  W 8° 07'.
A 10mx10m area has been plowed and the crater is no more visible. It's very 
probable that a
meteorite of this weight dig a deep hole in this kind of ground, the soil 
there is light and dry.
The first rain after the fall was on November 29.
The two witnesses have seen a fireball coming from the North-North East and 
have heard a big
explosion which has terrified them.
After feeling reassured, the two shepherds went back to the impact area. 
One hour later, the
responsible of the village came and call the royal police force. As soon as 
they arrived, they have
requisitioned the piece.

The royal police force has visited each house of the area, asking people to 
give them the
meteorites. Some people have complied with this order but some others have 
hidden the
meteorites.
An inhabitant has showed me a meteorite weighing around 1kg. The only 
problem is that he
hides it in his well to be sure that the police won't find it. Dived in the 
water since a week, this
meteorite presents already some weathering signs.

I have made some photos I will upload on my website as soon as I come back 
to France.
Tomorrow (Dec,1st), I will go to another place where another big piece has 
been found.
I'll let you know.

All the best,
Philippe Thomas
Meteoritica
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RE: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

2004-11-29 Thread aziz habibi
hello sir gregory and list
i m sorry now i can't move to go and take photo , first i have some 
explosifs news from a lab and i can't move untill i buy the meteorite 
concerned , anf fixed some deals.

i will ask my friend to do photo of this cater if there is one.
because i do not beleive this news paper that sad this , its a little 
exagerated , but i called yahya
and he told me that the people of this region say there is a acrater  and 
our guys morrocan or europeen or usa guys  can't aproch this place. and take 
photo.

well this is the news.
thanks
aziz
From: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:27:12 -0600
Hello Habibi and list,
I would think that it would be an easy task to get a picture of the 
crater or impact hole, whichever you prefer. I suppose it depends on how 
loose or damp the soil is where it fell. In either case, the 10 kilo mass 
will have obvious soil embedded on it. If they know it weighs 10 kilos and 
it was 2 meters deep, than they had to dig it out and destroy the crater. 
Still worth a picture for us to see, suppose?

If Mike is unable to get a picture of this, can you share one with us, 
Habibi?

Thanks again,
Greg
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RE: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz

2004-11-28 Thread aziz habibi
hello bernd and list
well the sample well be analised this week by nelson , i think end of the 
week we will  know what is it.
i get only two stones and i hope the guys bring me more once the area is 
more safe.
for my name bernd it means.
aziz= darling
habibi= my love.

a strange name for a strange man.
all the best to all
aziz

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Bengrir and Aziz
Date: 27 Nov 2004 23:45:26 UT
Aside from all this hustle about Bengrir, his first name is Aziz,
the family name is Habibi. Although I do not speak Arabic, I do
know what his first name and his family name mean but, of course,
it is not up to me to disclose such information.
Anyway, looking forward to hearing about Bengrir's classification
and glad to see that the recent stormy weather on this list has
finally abated and list members talk meteorites again instead of
slinging mud at each other.
Cheers and good night,
it is 00:45 here, ... yawn,
Bernd
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[meteorite-list] news paper and tv

2004-11-28 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
dean can you look for someone to translate this.its in frensh.
its  anew fall and fresh and untill now  mike is there and  many other guys
so mattoe read this articles.and next time matteo i ask you to be more 
respectable .

aziz

AL-ITTIHAD AL-ICHTIRAKI
Chute de météorites dans plusieurs douars de la région de Benguerir.
Une météorite de 8 kg est tombée lundi dernier au Douar Al Foqara', et une 
vingtaine d'autres, pesant quelque 20 kg, au Douar Tnaja. Selon des sources 
locales, () ces chutes ont creusé un cratère d'environ 2 mètres de 
profondeur et ont été entendues à 50 km à la ronde. () Selon certains 
habitants, il se pourrait que ces météorites soient récupérées par des 
individus convaincus de leur pouvoir magique, qui leur permettrait de 
découvir des trésors. () Selon une source informée, le procureur du Roi de 
la région a donné des instructions à la gendarmerie en vue de récupérer ces 
pierres. () (A. Ryadh)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir

2004-11-28 Thread aziz habibi
lars
i will translate this  from morrocan news paper.
ces chutes ont creusé un cratère d'environ 2 mètres de profondeur et ont 
été entendues à 50 km à la ronde. 

 this fall have made a crater of abaout 2 metre of deep and have been 
heard 50 kilometre arounld the place.

im  only reporting what i have heard or read, nothing else
.
thanks aziz
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Bengrir
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:59:35 +0100
a 10 Kilo main mass that was found in a crater.
Forgive me my stupidness (is that aword ??), but is a 10 kilo stone 
craterforming ?

Anyone who can enlighten me ?
Lars
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Re: [meteorite-list] news paper and tv

2004-11-28 Thread aziz habibi
hello peter
good translation but its  not
the king of the region  , but the procureur of the region, its the head of 
the justice court and tribunal.

thanks
aziz
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] news paper and tv
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 18:41:08 +0100
Chute de météorites dans plusieurs douars de la région de Benguerir.
Une météorite de 8 kg est tombée lundi dernier au Douar Al Foqara', et une
vingtaine d'autres, pesant quelque 20 kg, au Douar Tnaja. Selon des sources
locales, () ces chutes ont creusé un cratère d'environ 2 mètres de
profondeur et ont été entendues à 50 km à la ronde. () Selon certains
habitants, il se pourrait que ces météorites soient récupérées par des
individus convaincus de leur pouvoir magique, qui leur permettrait de
découvir des trésors. () Selon une source informée, le procureur du Roi de
la région a donné des instructions à la gendarmerie en vue de récupérer ces
pierres.
Meteorites fell in several places in the Benguerir region. One 8 kg 
meteorite
fell last Monday at Douar Al Foqara' and about 20 others with a total 
weight
of
about 20 kilos at Douar Tnaja. Local sources said that the meteorite
produced a 2 m deep crater and that the fall was heard up to 50 km away.
Certain inhabitants know that certain meteorites were recovered by people 
who
are convinced that the meteorite has magic power and will
bring them to hiddden treasures. Informed sources said that the king of the
region has given
orders to the police to recover the meteorites.

Bernd will give a more accurate translation later, ok Bernd?!
Peter
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[meteorite-list] bengrir fall

2004-11-27 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
its official in marrocan news papers now
a stone main mass  of 10 kilos have made a holl in land  some metres.
it has been confiscated by morrocan governement and gone for analisis by the 
morrocan mususem in rabat.
hunting in the area is dangerous because the police are looking for any gr.
our morrocan team and friends has left the area in perecaution.

sincerly
aziz
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RE: [meteorite-list] Habibi's Photos of new Moroccon Fall

2004-11-27 Thread aziz habibi
hello dean
thanks for hosting them
abaout how i get them, its luck my friend , and i have many friends all over 
morroco ,
enjoy them
all the best
aziz
ps .  did any one guess is its l breccia or what

From: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Habibi's Photos of new Moroccon Fall
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:25:15 -0800 (PST)
Here are photos of Habibi's new meteorite on one page
for easy viewing
http://www.meteoriteshop.com/hab/habibi.html
How did you manage to get your hands on it after the
military took it all and people were afraid to hunt in
the area because of the military?
Nice meteorite. Congratulations on another great
score.
Cheers
DEAN

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Re: [meteorite-list] bengrir fall

2004-11-27 Thread aziz habibi
hello  SIR greg
nice to hear from you, well i think mike will be there and report gps and 
all information..
mike is doing a good job
abaout the couscous of orionted  compleat  one i will let you know once i 
have anything left.
for now i have to sleep and before i will open a bottle of champagne from 
the bordeaux for my friend that bring me the stone

cheers
aziz
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] bengrir fall
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:52:14 -0600
Hello Habibi,
Thank you for the photos of the new fall. The next step is to get GPS 
coordinates, witness statements, location of fall (nearest village, town or 
city). I do not think the military will mind you gathering this data as we 
(our Moroccan partners) ran into the same scenario with Amgala. Of course 
buying the material from them directly did not hurt. However this case may 
be, we encourage you to collect this data NOW before any witnesses forget 
what they heard, saw, smelled or felt. You are in the forefront on this 
one, go get the data and submit it to the lab that will analyze your type 
sample (or whoever submits it first).

Being that the reported fall was near or in Marrakech, finding a GPS should 
not be a problem. In fact, Mike Farmer arrived in Morocco today so perhaps 
you can join up with him again, call his guide. I suspect he has a GPS with 
him. I think he may be chasing down that other iron meteorite that fell 
this month in the Atlas Mountains. Amazing that all of these falls are 
there.

Were there any small complete stones recovered yet? If not, just another 
reason to talk to the eye witnesses and then you should be able to figure 
out which direction it traveled and find the smaller complete stones. Put 
me down for a couscous-bag full of complete oriented ones ;-)

Best of luck,
Greg
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] bengrir fall


hello list hello all
a nice L breccia meteorite close to bensour but its breccia and had nice
inclusion ..
anyone could host the photo to show them to list please.
all the best
aziz
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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 6:02 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] bengrir fall

hello list
its official in marrocan news papers now
a stone main mass  of 10 kilos have made a holl in land  some metres.
it has been confiscated by morrocan governement and gone for analisis by
the
morrocan mususem in rabat.
hunting in the area is dangerous because the police are looking for any
gr.
our morrocan team and friends has left the area in perecaution.
sincerly
aziz
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[meteorite-list] bengrir fall

2004-11-26 Thread aziz habibi
hello all
time for a change
last monday a fall in bengrir , in a small town called  bouchaoun,
my friend that are there report to me that the people of the small town has 
collect the fall
but was surprised by the police and some other people asking them to give 
back to police very stone, well yahya and ali oussou , salem are there and 
report that all of them are afraid to show the stone in the case they do not 
know our dealers.
so they need a little more time to sell to us .
will reprt the news here once we have something
bengrir is 100 kilometre from marrakech aeroport, easy for you to come and 
go for hunting
buy your ticket

all the best
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[meteorite-list] bengrir fall segond report

2004-11-26 Thread aziz habibi
hi all
the first 250 gr  was recovred by our friends in bengrir
they sad it looks like bensour
great a fall of only days.
photo will be available in two days.
all the best
aziz
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[meteorite-list] narcisse

2004-11-25 Thread aziz habibi
hello list and happy thanksgiving to all
it's a nice day and deserve a nice story
i swear to you that i need a GPS  to find my self in all this emails.
and for this day here is  a nice story that resume the situation.
but in french and my english is not good enough to translate this beauty.
its from oscar wild  and i hope one of the frensh list member will make the 
translation
all the best
aziz

L’alchimiste connaissait la legende  de narcisse ,  ce beau jeune homme 
qui allait tous les jours contempler sa propre beaute dans l’eau d’un lac .
Il etais  si fascine par son image qu’un jour il tomba dans le lac et s’y 
noya. A l’endroit ou il etait tombe , naquit une fleur qui fut appeleè  
narcisse.
Mais ce n’etait pas de cette maniere qu’oscar wilde  terminait l’histoire.
Il  disait  qu’a la mort de narcisse  les oreades, divinites des bois 
,etaient venues au bord de ce lac  d’eau douce et l’avaient trouve tansforme 
en urne de larmes ameres.
«  pourquoi pleures-tu ? demanderent les oreades.
_ je pleure pour narcisse, repondit le lac.
_ voila qui ne nous etonne guere, dirent-elles alors , nous avions  beau 
etre toutes constamment a sa poursuite dans les bois , tu etais le seul a 
pouvoir contempler de pres sa beaute.
_narcisse etait donc beau ? demanda le lac.
_ qui, mieux que toi , pouvait le savoir ? repliquerent  les oreades, 
surprises , c’etait bien sur  tes rives , tout de meme  , qu’il se penchait 
chaque jour.
Le lac resta un  moment sans rien dire , puis :
«  je pleure pour narcisse, mais je ne m’etais jamais apercu que  narcisse 
etais beau.je pleure pour narcisse  parce que ,chaque fois qu’il se penchait 
sur mes rives, je pouvais voir, au fond de ses yeux, le reflet de ma propre 
beaute » ».

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RE: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites

2004-11-04 Thread aziz habibi
 of selling a stone even if you are the owner of the main 
mass you can't sell it without scientist aprobation, than we come back to 
confiance , is the dealer realy selling nwa225001 or nwa452028 ,this is the 
problem
than dear listies buy from who you believes and that it.
if not even if you belive someone and you want to buy from him a planetary 
meteorite do not buy it untill you see him cuting it with your eyes ,
there always two way or more to see problems, to make it personnal and this 
is the bad way of analphabets and uneducated impolit persons
and the  way of pragmatisme   and logique   and its the real way it should 
be to resolve problems
do not make a problem your own affair but see it with a logique.

all the best from nwa
aziz habibi










From: Jörn Koblitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED],Bernhard \Rendelius\ 
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Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:30:04 +0100

Dear Listees,
In the decades around 1900 it was fancy to circulate tables showing the 
values of meteorites. Henry Ward, for example, prepared such tables and it 
is interesting and funny to see what was highly priced and what was bargain 
in those old times. I remember that Angra dos Reis, Lodran and Chassigny 
were among the most expensive meteorites. Some of these tables are in the 
library and if somebody is interested I can email scanned images.

Regarding the ongoing discussion on Dhofar vs. NWA pairings: to me, the 
pairing situation with NWA is a bit like it is with some places in 
Antarctica - hundreds of meteorite pieces were picked up in glacial morains 
(e.g. Elephant Moraine). I would compare such collections with the clothes 
baskets of Moroccan dealers filled with all kinds of meteorite fragments. 
Meteorites which fell on Antactic ice travelled large distances within the 
ice and ended up in a moraine nearby the Transantactic Mountains. The 
difference to NWA is that Antarctic meteorites are curated by just a few 
research institutes that take care about classification and pairing.

Best wishes,
Jörn Koblitz / MetBase

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 2004 15:44
 An: Bernhard Rendelius Rems; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites


 Yes, and?

 If they list the prices on their sites - then this are the
 prices which I'm
 interesting.
 If I'll go to an anticariat, there I may also get discounts
 on the prices on
 the labels.
 If you buy a used car, gosh, the seller will think, that
 you're not right in
 brain, if you won't to try to haggle.
 Go to a stamp or coin auctions - there are never paid the
 prices given in
 the catalogue.

 Such a list is good for orientation. If one has a 100% superoriented,
 crusted specimen, one will tend to ask or to pay higher
 prices than the
 average, if one has a 3 pounder, one will ask less and so on.
 The best clue for that the time I spent in compiling the lists was not
 wasted was, that the trade offers I got or I made, when I was
 the little
 Martin, even more unknown as now, fitted exactly to the given
 average price
 from my list and all parnters were content.

 Miau,
 says my cat.
 Martin


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 You forgot something, Martin: A lot of these dealers offer SUBSTANTIAL
 rebates if you ask for them :-)

 In so far the prices on the sites tend to be higher than they are.

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 Bernhard Rendelius Rems

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RE: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites

2004-11-04 Thread aziz habibi
 of selling a stone even if you are the owner of the main 
mass you can't sell it without scientist aprobation, than we come back to 
confiance , is the dealer realy selling nwa225001 or nwa452028 ,this is the 
problem
than dear listies buy from who you believes and that it.
if not even if you belive someone and you want to buy from him a planetary 
meteorite do not buy it untill you see him cuting it with your eyes ,
there always two way or more to see problems, to make it personnal and this 
is the bad way of analphabets and uneducated impolit persons
and the  way of pragmatisme   and logique   and its the real way it should 
be to resolve problems
do not make a problem your own affair but see it with a logique.

all the best from nwa
aziz habibi










From: Jörn Koblitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED],Bernhard \Rendelius\ 
Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:30:04 +0100

Dear Listees,
In the decades around 1900 it was fancy to circulate tables showing the 
values of meteorites. Henry Ward, for example, prepared such tables and it 
is interesting and funny to see what was highly priced and what was bargain 
in those old times. I remember that Angra dos Reis, Lodran and Chassigny 
were among the most expensive meteorites. Some of these tables are in the 
library and if somebody is interested I can email scanned images.

Regarding the ongoing discussion on Dhofar vs. NWA pairings: to me, the 
pairing situation with NWA is a bit like it is with some places in 
Antarctica - hundreds of meteorite pieces were picked up in glacial morains 
(e.g. Elephant Moraine). I would compare such collections with the clothes 
baskets of Moroccan dealers filled with all kinds of meteorite fragments. 
Meteorites which fell on Antactic ice travelled large distances within the 
ice and ended up in a moraine nearby the Transantactic Mountains. The 
difference to NWA is that Antarctic meteorites are curated by just a few 
research institutes that take care about classification and pairing.

Best wishes,
Jörn Koblitz / MetBase

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. November 2004 15:44
 An: Bernhard Rendelius Rems; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites


 Yes, and?

 If they list the prices on their sites - then this are the
 prices which I'm
 interesting.
 If I'll go to an anticariat, there I may also get discounts
 on the prices on
 the labels.
 If you buy a used car, gosh, the seller will think, that
 you're not right in
 brain, if you won't to try to haggle.
 Go to a stamp or coin auctions - there are never paid the
 prices given in
 the catalogue.

 Such a list is good for orientation. If one has a 100% superoriented,
 crusted specimen, one will tend to ask or to pay higher
 prices than the
 average, if one has a 3 pounder, one will ask less and so on.
 The best clue for that the time I spent in compiling the lists was not
 wasted was, that the trade offers I got or I made, when I was
 the little
 Martin, even more unknown as now, fitted exactly to the given
 average price
 from my list and all parnters were content.

 Miau,
 says my cat.
 Martin


 - Original Message -
 From: Bernhard Rendelius Rems [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Martin Altmann' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 3:29 PM
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] RE: Ad ebay meteorites


 You forgot something, Martin: A lot of these dealers offer SUBSTANTIAL
 rebates if you ask for them :-)

 In so far the prices on the sites tend to be higher than they are.

   _

 Best regards,
 Bernhard Rendelius Rems

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[meteorite-list] unsubscribe me please

2004-10-06 Thread aziz habibi

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RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues

2004-09-09 Thread aziz habibi
adam wrote.
Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110 and
so what he is selling is the same.  This is not the truth as we do not do
business with Habibi and never will.  If you check the images below you will
see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates:
dear list
i had found nwa1110 and it's me who give the sample  to dr tony irving via 
the hupes.
the photo published in nasa website are made from my degital camera  a nikon 
collpix.
any studies of the propritiey of the photo can proof that this photo is mine
well the real name who should have been advretised there is my name
this an other problem ,( proprity of the data).
so the stone published there are my stone and i stilll have them:
so also i have prooof that its me who give the sample for depository.
i have everthing with proofs and every emails abaout that .

nwa1110 is a scientific name and everyone can use it ,
if we do 100 classification this is confusing the collector and the wolrd of 
meteorite.
i think its enough problem in this list i do not see realy the interst to 
answer each day this story's
what is the interst to say all this.

the stone that are sold now are the real nwa1110; that's it and i have proof 
of that
if i  have to answer again abaout this subject i willl put everything on the 
table .

let this list a little in peace and let us enjoy the real beautufull hobies 
of this fantastic stones that make our life better

the real nice thing that this meteorite bring me is that i love them and i 
find its good to collect them
they bring a lot of adrelanine in  my life and give me a good raison to 
collect them
why we go always to the bad thing and bargaining abaout lie, why we do not 
dicuss the beuaty of the stone and hope that every collector get good stone 
without jalousie.

this is life and every one his chance.
the most important is the meteorite and the hobies  of collecting them 
,that's it.
why always lie , abaout such beautifull  stone

amgala than nwa1110 than nwa1877  than nwa 1836
what else
one day someone willl ask me if i m habibi or someone else.
all the best
aziz


From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1110 issues
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:18:25 -0700
Dear List,
It has come to my attention that some sellers are still using the NWA 1110
designation to sell there untested material.  It is not a marketing ploy
that I bring this up as we are nearly out of stock and we start all of our
true NWA 1110 auctions out at just 99 cents.  Here are the problems:
We had Dr. Irving at the University of Washington authenticate every piece
we have ever sold or plan to sell.  All of it is recorded at 118 grams can
be seen at the JPL/NASA Martian web site.  Other dealers selling NWA 1110
have not gone to this expense  We have only supplied one dealer from 
Austria
with NWA 1110 and he is sold out.

We paid the research and authentication costs associated with every piece 
of
NWA 1110

We deposited a type sample (something important if want your very own NWA
number)
We paid the cost to go into the field, monitored the recovery efforts and
recorded GPS coordinates.
Habibi of Morocco has been telling dealers he supplied us with NWA 1110 and
so what he is selling is the same.  This is not the truth as we do not do
business with Habibi and never will.  If you check the images below you 
will
see we went directly to the source and recorded GPS coordinates:

http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110a.jpg
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110b.jpg
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110c.jpg
http://www.lunarrock.com/nwa1110/nwa1110d.jpg
To see auctions like the one I linked to below really irritates us because
no laboratory has tested this material, the dealer should deposit a type
specimen, pay the lab fees and get his very own NWA number so that every
gram of meteorites paired to NWA 1068 can be recorded if they are indeed
meteorites.
This is what I would like to say to the person running this ebay auction
Stop using NWA 1110, get a real number, put out some effort, there is no
such thing as a free ride:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=3239item=2268561021
Wishing everybody the best,
Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] test delete please

2004-08-22 Thread aziz habibi
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[meteorite-list] books on meteorites or ilustreted books on meteorite

2004-04-25 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
i would love to have many books on meteorite , i have already some.
but please if anyone want to trade books with ilustreted photo on meteorite 
classified; i would like to tarde 
with any nwa stone you want ; just please show me the books and even if they are old 
and in good shap.
i want to complet my studies on this and i need any books you can offer for trade.
this books can be in english , frensh ; or germain..( i have a preference for frensh 
books).
also any good studies of nwa meteroite with photo are welcome.
thanks
aziz
ps i can give a good offer on trade.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Main mass of Oum Dreyga (Amgala) recovered !

2004-04-15 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
the stone that meteoritica web (michel)show is a nice real amgala. he bought from 
ismaili and i coudn't buy it 
because it was expensive for me.it's was at 4000$.1 kilos.
for the name calling amgala oum draga , or djeibra , its the same state , wich i call 
in my  earlier post smara
this fall in real is , state of smara wich is a state of 300 kilometres.
when this was recovred it was done in abaout 30 kilometre area.between amgala and 
djbeira and oum draga.
in the frontier between morroco and mauritanie and algeria. its post of soldiers.
i do not think that any morrocan dealer can confuse amgala with zag.why?
morrocan dealer are professionel and know the diffrence also because zag is much 
weathred now.
and where is any more zag in morroco now.
so if you confuse zag with amgala ,  its like if you confuse a ferrari with a jeep 4 
wheel drive.
anyway if you can confuse zag and amgala show me how close this can be by photo.


all the best
aziz habibi

--- Message original ---
De: philippe thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 20:46:19 +0200 (CEST)
Sujet: [meteorite-list] Main mass of Oum Dreyga (Amgala) recovered !

Dear List Members,
 
Our team has recovered from a soldier from Western Sahara an amazing oriented stone 
with 
flow lines  (99% crusted) weighing a little bit more of one kilo. This stone seems to 
be the 
main mass of this fall.
Michle Bourot-Denise, from the MNHN of Paris) is actually analysing a sample of this 
fall 
but it appears clearly that this is an ordinary H chondrite.

Some dealers are using as provisional name for this fall  Amgala , but the 
strewnfield is 
closer to Oum Dreyga? Amgala is 250km far away.

You can see this piece of Oum Dreyga in my website www.meteoritica.com

Best Wishes
Philippe Thomas

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[meteorite-list] some more nice amgala

2004-04-14 Thread aziz habibi
hello list 
i just get some nice amgala meteorite, they are abaout 2gr to 140 gr  almost all 
compleat 
most of them has 100% crust.many small compleat stones, and many orionted one.
i 'm asking a reasonable price, chek photo and email for what you like.

http://fr.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhab2000/my_photos

all the best
aziz
ps . you can choose in photo and tell me directly the one's you want.

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[meteorite-list] Tr: the best orionted fresh compleat stone in the wolrd...

2004-04-13 Thread aziz habibi
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hello list
i can't wait to share this beauty with you, i wake up this morning waiting for one of my friend nomade , bringing me some amgala , inside a beauty show up, it's absolutly the best 
fresh orionted stone that my eyes have seen , compleatly excited i take photo to show you.
it's 100% crusted no one scrutch, like if some one has take it before it reach earth.
and it have also a thousend of flowlines, and a nice lips very fine...and its amgala

enjoy
http://fr.f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhab2000/my_photos


all the best
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[meteorite-list] morrocan fall

2004-03-31 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
i have some from the smara amgala fall left
i will sell it with a raisonable price, email me for photo.
what was the main mass of this fall
all the best
aziz habibi

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[meteorite-list] smara fall

2004-02-29 Thread aziz habibi
hello all
a team has recovred a fall , this may be the one we talk abaout it last year 
when tucson was rununing , its an h chondrite.
it has been founld in south morroco near mauritanie.
this is almost 1800 kilometre from erfoud .
the name of this fall is   smara.
it look like its has been on earth one year or so not so beautifull as bensour
wich was an LL chondrite, this one is also nice greenish  H chondrite
let see what analisis will say but i think its an H6.
its very few magnetic and very nice color.
well there is also an other one recovred, its in studies at the university of 
usa (whashington) , lets see  which one is the fresh one, this last fall is 
called tabelbalet, its an ll3/4
all the best
habibi
nb: the exact location of smara fall is the frontier between morroco and 
mauritanie and algeria,its under very hot security and then very few of it will 
go out of morroco, as its in the place where military control is evident.

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Re: [meteorite-list] new fall from Morocco 16 October 2003

2004-02-29 Thread aziz habibi
 hi list
abaout the name of fall it's smara where this stone fell
like zag fell in assa zag
bensour fell in besour
what name the nomoclature comittee will give ,its smara
aziz

--- Message original --- 
De: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:26:56 -0800 (PST) 
Sujet: [meteorite-list] new fall from Morocco 16 October 2003 


I have this new fall, fell October 16 2003 at 0200 in
military post on Mauritania border. Is not named until
nomenclature commitee gives it name. It is an H 3 or 4
breccia, and despite what Habibi says, is not at all
weatered, and those of you who bought bensour from me
know that when i say fresh, i mean fresh.
Perhaps he saw a different stone?
I will be divying it up among my partners next week,
and want to tell all that there will not be that much
to go around, so email me NOW with what you want to
spend; i will put in order and go first come first
served. Many small stones but we will be keeping a
good amount for our selves; so i would say only 20
pieces totaling about 1.5 kilo will be for sale, as
you can see, not much.
This one will not be like Bensour, little out there to
get.
Mike Farmer

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Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

2004-02-01 Thread aziz habibi
 
hello list hell all
all nwa will remember this day, my god what can people do to sell stone,
what happend to this wolrd, im sick of all this lies why all this what do you want,
thanks dean thanks to all who awserd this lies , you think that the nomade do not read 
what is on the list , they
go to archives and know everthing,
my god , why all this lies  im so sick that im going to qiet
i m tired of all the lies that people write on this list.
im going to print this letter and give to nomade with the names of who write it
you lies abaout nwa and you lies abaout poor nomade and they are only looking for eat,
why you do not let the nomade in there peace and desert , fight if you want but let  
the poor nomade in peace
what we cant hear this time
its a shame,
no and no its a shame
who is this new loby againt nwa
you know who will lost , with lies , no its all of us , this type letter can make 
stoping all the stone geting out from
nwa , and then nothing
why all this , why
why
why
its a shame
damn , cam this people sleep with there consciense
if they have consciense
i m so sick that i cam write
bye


--- Message d'origine --- 
De:  Bernhard \ Rendelius\  Rems  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 18:46:19 +0100 
Sujet: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism? 

Ok, now Matteo has admitted that he is Matt River.

Bernhard

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
River
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 5:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?


Farmer what you make the double  game? You put the privat emails in
public? But like, to me you said not to make it and hour make it also
you? I wants to say that you go badly if you make therefore. However, if
I come banned from this list hour, wants to say that it is not for null
democratic inasmuch as I have not opened mouth and I not have
put
any public email to Farmer. If instead it will be made, I have an other
account,
and then an other anchor, and an other...

Farmercosa fai il doppio gioco? Metti le email private pubbliche? Ma

come, a me dicevi di non farlo e ora lo fai anche tu? Vuole dire che ti
và
male se fai così. Comunque, se vengo bannato da questa lista ora vuol
dire
che non è per nulla democratica visto che non ho aperto bocca mettendo
nessuna email pubblica. Se invece sarà fatto, fatelo pure, tanto ho un
altro
account, e poi un altro ancora, e un altro...

From: Michael Farmer
To:
Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 07:31:44 -0700


- Original Message -
From: M come Meteorite Meteorites
To:
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?


  We all  know it is Matteo, he is so stupid that he
  doesn't even know how to
  lie well.
  Mike Farmer
 
 
  shh...go go to sale your fake new diogenite and
  new martian hahahahanow I hope the NWA market
  close, I want see after what you sold
 
  =
  M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
  Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for terrorism?

2004-02-01 Thread aziz habibi
 i swear with all what i love that all nwa will know this and will know
the name of the pillisons
nomade are  like camels they never forget

--- Message d'origine --- 
De: dean bessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:56:44 -0800 (PST) 
Sujet: Re: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] NWA meteorites - money for  terrorism? 

--- Nicholas Gessler  wrote:
 Aziz Habibi,
 Please DO NOT quit this list.
 It is important that we hear from people where
 meteorites are found.
 As a professional anthropologist AND an amateur
 meteorite hunter/collector,
 let me say that we do appreciate your comments...
  Best wishes,
 Nick, Ph.D.

Yes, I agree. We dont hear from many moroccans on this
list which is to bad considering how moroccan
meteorites have totally revolutionized the entire
industry/science over the past couple of years.
More postings from you would be best - not fewer.
Cheers
DEAN

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[meteorite-list] new winnonaites and new martien,

2003-02-03 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all,i m happy to annouce that we get me and my friend nelson oakes a new winnonaites and a new martien,it's in classification in a germain lab and will be in the next meteorical bulletin ,we will sell it in our website after the tucson show.you still could see the winnonaites in tucson by nelson .we have some more stuff under analisis that are promessinglet's hope the besta fireball like reported on the list has cross erfoud sky and all the morrocan hunter are looking for i can say something like 100 peoples are looking for near benitjit with four wheel drive wich is 140 kl from erfoud .because we try to lacalisate this new fall.i my self was out looking for it all day.i think it's the biggest fall that has been sawed in morroco.it fall at 9 pm the 29 of this month.the place where it fall is between bnitjit and guerramai wonder how it can be seen from south spain. wish is 500klm far from that place a
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[meteorite-list] unknown meteorite.

2003-01-17 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all ,here is a wonderfull  meteorite 60 gr, i get today and it's strange meteorite  , if it was not few magnetic i would  say it's lunar, but it have some weathered elements, and it have millions of veines and shoked veines.well , i think its may be a kind of achondrite , i guess .Ureilite .but the texture is compleatly like a moon rock,if someone  could tell me what he think , thanks .to see the photo ,http://fr.photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi please chek unknown meteorite album.and abaout stony iron meteorite , i can tell you that there was a few  collected in morroco they are very rare.may be because neolithiques time people use them likea material.all the besthabibiall the besthabibi__Boîte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com



[meteorite-list] MERCURY HOPE?

2002-11-28 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all,
happy holidays and happy thanksgiving day,
there a week that i lost sleep ,i get a stone me a good
friend nelson oakes last year
wich have a nice double crust , and vesiculated matrix,
and the
bubbles in the fusion crust .
wonderfull melted stone, abaout 39 gr.
the scientist are amazed by this stone.
all the first analysis sad its planetary ratios feo/mno.
its has an equation third degree , all confirm thats a
strange planetary meteorite , could be lunar mare
basalt ,but than melted could be melted martien, but
also as we do not know what a stone from mercury look
like , we can't say much.
what i hope is that this stone turn to be from mercury.
so my question for the list as i want here to open a debat,
o-isotope anlysis can they say for sur if a stone is from
mercury or not??.
if yes how ??
if the o-isotope analysis can't say if a stone is from
mercury ,how can we find a system to compare or to proofe
that a stone is from mercury???.
than what a value of this stone could be if its the first
stone in the world from mercury.
all this look a little crazy to me.but let's dream some.
a stone wich have may be first strange melt feature.
this stone has been fragmented from a parent body wich
have been shok- molten,and this stone wich is n3
is simpley wonderfull,
sorry but im too excited that i lost sleep,and i tell you
abaout that not to share my stone , no, but to know if is
there a possiblity that a stone from mercury could be
founld on earth , and if so what are our chance to find
it ,
how can we demonstrate this ,can we proceed by absolut
method ,if the stone is not from mars , moon , earth than
it'sfrom mercury,or by recurence if N istrue than N+1is
true,if the compostion of a planet can demonstrate the
composition of others just to take in suposition, distance
time and all dimensions.

the noble gases method does this work for martien or also
other planets,
do we know the atmosphere of mercury or not,
as we have no sample from this planet .
what do you think there list??
my hope is to be real and scientist let me know nextly
that's true.
let's dream we never know.
all the best
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[meteorite-list] TWO NEW METEORITES AND LAST SALE OF THE LAST SLICE NWA1460.

2002-11-21 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all,
i send this many time i hope you will get it.
i m happy to tell you that we get two new meteorite,
---the first one is a new carbonaceous,i hope that some
one in the list could do further study on that one
by the way dear list members can you advice me on a
specialist of carbonaceous
(N2 C2 chondrite

Black body color suggests a high carbon content.
Aggregate of Mg-Al spinel, perovskite, pure forsterite,
pure enstatite, fassaitic clinopyroxene, phyllosilicate
minerals, Fe-Ni sulfide and metal (5% Ni). This stone may
deserve futher study by an expert on carbonaceous
chondrites.


--- the segond one is new rare type of Primitive bronzite-
olivine achondrite???.
this stone is only 26 gr and i m going to sell some of it .
N12 Primitive bronzite-olivine achondrite

Mostly magnesian bronzite (Wo2.2Fs11.2, FeO/MnO =3D 13)
and
forsteritic olivine (Fa11.6, FeO/MnO =3D 24) with Fe-Ni
metal (5-10 % Ni), troilite and interstitial sodic
feldspar (Ab81Or3). Limonite and minor calcite along
grain boundaries presumably are products of terrestrial
weathering of metal. This stone appears to be a new
example of a rare class of primitive, reduced ultramafic
achondrites including Itqiy, Zaklodzie and NWA 1457. An
NWA number should be obtained for this very interesting
specimen..
so if you are intersted in this new meteorites please
contact me,
--- the third meteorite is the last slice for sell from
nwa 1460 , it`s 2.41 gr with nice crust chek photo please
on :
 http://fr.photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi
please chek nwa 1460 album.and ask collectors who get
nwa1460 what they think,
one collector sad its beautifull meteorite he ever get in
his life.
its realy abeauty

at the end ,i can tell you that two new martien stone are
on the way, and i will publish all the information on the
list,for any further information please contact me.
my emails are:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
all the best
habibi


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[meteorite-list] bottom line nwa482

2002-10-31 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all.
nwa482 ,,to be or not to be??? ,,this is the question???.
this week i was visited by mike farmer and jim stroope
jim stroope is a good mature sage guy.sincerly
they ask me in my house what you have for sell i show them
what i have , include what you bought from me.
mike apoligises to have attack me in the list ; he told me
i do not want that amerecains come and buy in morroco but i
have to much respect for habibi.
i sad to jim stroope you are a respectable guy and i have a
lot of respect for you, and i will not answer mike farmer
in the list. i m the kind of guy who respect first himself.
i do not fight in the road , and i will not fall down in
the street, for dollars.
i forget everything while many dealers asked me stone
upfront to send stone and to get money later .
ididnt answer, why
i m a third world dealers no one can believe me , i put
ouzina wich is real and they told me its not ouzina.
a week later adam and greg hupe visited in erfoud with mr
donahue from portland a writer from outside us magasine and
asked me what hapenned i say i do not know its may be some
storys.
he told me your ouzina was true and you others stone was
perfect and its advertising you to make you fall down.
i sad i have many good collectors friend and it working
well.
he told me that you are going to be pubelished in this
magasine for a millions copies.
i sad why im a poor guy what for.
he told me here is a problem.
what do you think nwa482 was 1015gr or more i sad all the
dealers sad it was 1278gr and mike payed 13000$ 10$ per gr.
this is exactley the wiegth.
all the dealer of morroco sad ir was 1278 gr
from amouri he sad i asked mike 10$ to falsifecate the
document , mike gived me 6500$ to falsifecate the document.
amouri was riped of before as they promess to amouri a
bonus that he never get.
mike was in my house with jim and i get dinner with them ,
they never told me abaout that.
the hupe brother come to erfoud , hello habibi welcome
what hapennd i sad here is all the dealer ask yourself.
all the dealer sad mike was falsifieng document with med.
the writer donahue heard all the story and it was to late
to resolve any.
i sad to greg hupe please , its too bad for morroco this
story and he sad , i want the justice for all the investors.
i could not say anything else.
the writer told me did mike told you anything abaout nwa482
i sad its not posssible the hupe brother are my friend
however we have a problem of account; mike know that they
was my friend.he could not asked me that.
adam hupe told me in my house , we do not want to have
trouble( adam is the best collecetors i ever know he is
fair and honnest and i have lurn with him stones)).
but mike has stoled us and we are going to take him to
court of justice.
we spend a night with this incredible writer it was to late
to resolve anything, all the morrocan dealer had sad it was
1278gr.
i told greg , hey man , its possible by geothecnique to
reconsturct the stone and then to put in a a graduate
cubique cm3 box and make the diffrence and multiplie by the
density , you have all the mass.by exact gr.
he told me scinetist are doing the same.
i told to greg all this is too bad for morroco, and for us
he told me its time to explain to collectors the thrued.
i sad mike was with me last week he was stressed but
ididnt understand , in real all the story i heard from
nomade collectors and all the rest from lats year
by mistake i told the hupe brother nwa482 was 1278 gr where
is the rest they told me how, and i close it up i stoped as
i ididnt understand.
i know that amouri sad it was 1278 gr the guy who sell it
to mike .
i konw that sallem brahim sell it for 1278 gr.
i know that aid sad it was1278 gr
i know that i have it for a month , i was playing golf
with??.
its an unresolved question.
scientist must do more.
if you take a stone iregular and you want to have volume
cm3
you put in a gradute cm3 box water and you make the
difrence.
this what i heard i have nothing against anyone.
nwa482 is 99% 1278 gr scientist can proofe that.
i think that i have a responsbilty of the trued agains this
list this what i think its up to scientist to make the
difrence.

all the best
habibi
nb: its up to mike to proofe if its true or not , how???





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Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Tough day...bottom line nwa482

2002-10-31 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello steven
i agree with you its not the day,
my sincer condoleances for sarah and his family.

steven , what i sad today will be published next week in
the outssiking us magasine.
mr donahue has heard everthing , there is nothing to save.
i tryed in morroco , to told him no , no way nothing.
he is asking only bad question.
did he ask abaout meteorite , no;
ididnt understand , why a writer come from usa to write
abaout this garbage, why not abaout the stone.
its just to crasy .
he was serious enough to understand that he will write and
publish everthing.
i met him very late in the day, he has spend already two
days in the desert with dealers and nomade.
no matter how , no way.
what is done is already done.
he know everthing, and you will see in one week or two you
will read what he wrote.

again my sincer condoleances for sarah and all the
meteorite comunity.
habibi
 ---Message d'origine---
 De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date : 01/11/102 04:23:36

 To the list,
 I don't know about everyone else, but I'm having to take
some deep breaths
 getting through these postings.

 First, we lose a fellow meteorite-list member, colleague,
and that in itself
 should give us all time to pause and reflect.

 Second, is the deal that tanked with Steve Arnold, and
it's aftermath with
 another list member.

 Third, is the exchange regarding the NWA 482, and now
this posting which, if
 it reads correctly, poses some extremely damaging
information, which I
 frankly think should have been posted a bit more
privately---or at the very
 least, put on the back burner for a short time.

 All this on Halloween. Damn! This day is going to be
one tough-mother to
 close out on a more upbeat note.

 Here's Hoping and Praying for a better day tomarrow to
all list members

 Steven L. Sachs IMCA # 9210


 hello list hello all.
 nwa482 ,,to be or not to be??? ,,this is the question???.
 this week i was visited by mike farmer and jim stroope
 jim stroope is a good mature sage guy.sincerly
 they ask me in my house what you have for sell i show
them
 what i have , include what you bought from me.
 mike apoligises to have attack me in the list ; he told
me
 i do not want that amerecains come and buy in morroco but
i
 have to much respect for habibi.
 i sad to jim stroope you are a respectable guy and i have
a
 lot of respect for you, and i will not answer mike farmer
 in the list. i m the kind of guy who respect first
himself.
 i do not fight in the road , and i will not fall down in
 the street, for dollars.
 i forget everything while many dealers asked me stone
 upfront to send stone and to get money later .
 ididnt answer, why
 i m a third world dealers no one can believe me , i put
 ouzina wich is real and they told me its not ouzina.
 a week later adam and greg hupe visited in erfoud with mr
 donahue from portland a writer from outside us magasine
and
 asked me what hapenned i say i do not know its may be
some
 storys.
 he told me your ouzina was true and you others stone was
 perfect and its advertising you to make you fall down.
 i sad i have many good collectors friend and it working
 well.
 he told me that you are going to be pubelished in this
 magasine for a millions copies.
 i sad why im a poor guy what for.
 he told me here is a problem.
 what do you think nwa482 was 1015gr or more i sad all the
 dealers sad it was 1278gr and mike payed 13000$ 10$ per
gr.
 this is exactley the wiegth.
 all the dealer of morroco sad ir was 1278 gr
 from amouri he sad i asked mike 10$ to falsifecate
the
 document , mike gived me 6500$ to falsifecate the
document.
 amouri was riped of before as they promess to amouri a
 bonus that he never get.
 mike was in my house with jim and i get dinner with
them ,
 they never told me abaout that.
 the hupe brother come to erfoud , hello habibi welcome
 what hapennd i sad here is all the dealer ask
yourself.
 all the dealer sad mike was falsifieng document with med.
 the writer donahue heard all the story and it was to late
 to resolve any.
 i sad to greg hupe please , its too bad for morroco this
 story and he sad , i want the justice for all the
investors.
 i could not say anything else.
 the writer told me did mike told you anything abaout
nwa482
 i sad its not posssible the hupe brother are my friend
 however we have a problem of account; mike know that they
 was my friend.he could not asked me that.
 adam hupe told me in my house , we do not want to have
 trouble( adam is the best collecetors i ever know he is
 fair and honnest and i have lurn with him stones)).
 but mike has stoled us and we are going to take him to
 court of justice.
 we spend a night with this incredible writer it was to
late
 to resolve anything, all the morrocan dealer had sad it
was
 1278gr.
 i told greg , hey man , its possible by geothecnique to
 reconsturct the stone and then to put in a a graduate
 cubique cm3 box and make the diffrence and multiplie by
the
 density , you have all the mass.by exact 

[meteorite-list] RECTIFICATION NWA 482.

2002-10-31 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
when i sad that ; that mean that amouri sad mike gived him
6500$. not to me habibi.
mike never talk to me about nwa482, and has never say
anthing abaout that.
what i repeort here is what the daelers sad , not me.
i hope i m clear , mike never talk to me abaout that and
never propose money to me.
its a confusion, amouri sad that. not me.HABIBI

from amouri he sad i asked mike 10$ to falsifecate
the
document , mike gived me(this mean amouri)? 6500$ to
falsifecate the document.
amouri was riped of before as they promess to amouri a
bonus that he never get
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[meteorite-list] nwa1460(( sales pf 10 gr))

2002-10-24 Thread aziz habibi
hello list hello all
thanks for all your emails , i was happy to answer
everyone.
i enjoy writing to you; its nice to have friend all over
the world ,i have sold nwa1460 stone to nelson oakes in usa
his email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] website is
http://www.meteorites-r-us.com.
please email to nelson oakes he is the best partner i have
in usa , he could sell the nwa1460 and the ungrouped
primitive achondrite , and the milted breccia.
he agree to sold 10 gr from the 70 gr and he want to keep
the rest.
after you asked me abaout nwa 1460 how it could be paired
with nwa480, here is the scientists analisis by dr tony
irving from whashington dc.
Northwest Africa 1460
Morocco
Purchased 2002 June
Martian meteorite (basaltic shergottite)
Small fragments of a 70.2 g complete stone with a fresh,
black fusion crust were provided to A. and G. Hupé (Hupé)
for petrological analysis by a Moroccan dealer habibi
abdelaziz in 2002 January, and eventually the stone was
purchased by N. Oakes (Oakes) for more detailed studies.
Dimensions: 47 mm by 34 mm by 27 mm. Classification and
mineralogy (A. Irving and S. Kuehner, UWS): Very fresh and
coarse grained, with large pale yellow-green pyroxene and
glassy maskelynite laths clearly visible. Ophitic texture.
Zoned pyroxenes have cores of orthopyroxene (Fs20Wo3,
FeO/MnO = 35.3) mantled by augite (Fs26Wo29, FeO/MnO =
57.0) with rims of Fe-rich pigeonite (Fs76Wo16, FeO/MnO =
43.7). Plagioclase (maskelynite) is relatively homogeneous
(Ab51Or1-2). Fe-bearing merrillite, Cl-bearing apatite,
exsolved Fe-Ti oxides (titanomagnetite and ilmenite),
chromite and pyrrhotite also are present. Fine
symplectitic intergrowths of fayalite+Fe-Ti oxide+silica
occur along grain boundaries between merrillite and
pigeonite. Textures and mineral compositions are
essentially identical to those in the 28 g basaltic
shergottite NWA 480, with which this sample is considered
to be paired. Specimens: type specimen, 15 g, and two
polished thin sections, UWS; main mass, Oakes.

[Oakes = Nelson Oakes, RR1, Box 50C, Union Dale, PA 18470-
971 email[EMAIL PROTECTED])))
phone= 5702229592)))
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[meteorite-list] recents news from nwa

2002-10-21 Thread aziz habibi
hello all
here is what we have new in nwa;
please chek http://fr.photos.yahoo.com/azizhabibi
its the link where you can see photo.

1= nwa 1460 70 gr paired with nwa 480,
2= howardites a 600 gr it look like nwa 1109 but this one
is more dark grey nwa 1109 is more clair color
3=new type of zag this 6300 gr has a nice black fresh
crust and it very magnetic with no aparent chondrule ,
after i cut it look like a mixed texture of crystalised
stone, i think its intersting for analysis.
4=wow its 12,5 kilos of a nice orionted and the best
thimberprinted stone i have ever seen wonderfull , i
bought it in the desert thinking its howardites , but
once home i cut small slice and it look ll6, but still
wonderfull
5==here is a 3 kilos of what i think its an h3 regolith
breccia , highly magnetic ,very fresh,nice fresh crust and
you can see from photo that
its berecciated nicely , aparent cercle of breccia the
insidee look to have a black inclusion very big what i
think its a carbonosous composition , may be a CM
its a wonderull stone , if some one could tell me what he
think the black compostion ? it will be great
thanks for looking any question please send me an email
i will be posting more photo soon.
all the best from nwa
habibi
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[meteorite-list] photo

2002-10-18 Thread aziz habibi
hello list
please how can i post photo to the list
how we use url and where, should i do posting photo.
i have many photo to show and to ask abaout.

all the best
habibi
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[meteorite-list] nwa meteorite by habibi.

2002-10-12 Thread aziz habibi

hello everyone
happy to be in the meteorite central writing to you , my
english is not good
enough to extrapolise what i have in my hearth , but well
we will know each other
with time ,
i have done my entry to ebay meteorite this week and many
collectors
and honnest dealers ask me to write to the mailing list,
here i m.
well my objectives are in one way to find good offers for
my meteorites
as we are never payed enough for the work we do in nwa , as
me as the nomade
in other way i want to bring jackpot to the collectors and
the scientific comunitys, i will use mailing
list to make every one able to have his meteorite as quick
as founld
in nwa, so i m what i can say very happy to be here with
you.
1_ i will try the next month to show you all what we founld
in the sahara in nwa
with the ligitime hunter and founder.
2_ i will present you the nomade to know them
3_ i will try to have good price for my stone and good
price for you.
4_ i want to advertise my founlds.

last year i get many good meteorite, one of them is nwa1460
a nice black beauty
 of 70 gr shergotite paired with nwa480.
i get one rare ungrouped primitive achondrite. and many
martien
this next day i will show you each week some of them.
in all i get four martien stone. and the last one is may be
the first mafic martien
meteorite , may the best martien meteorite in the world its
under last isotopic analysis
i will give you news once by once.
at the end , it seems that i was already in the trafic of
the mailing list
before my entry , here i m for the best
if anyone need any information , please feel free to ask
me abaout nwa stone.
i will do my best that each one of this list has a nomade
as a friend.
i m here to make a good connections system between you and
the nomade.
finish old world of priority, you will be the first to know
what happening
in nwa meteorite from founld to sell.
at the same level of equitabilty,

all the best from nwa

habibi.






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