Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-09 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hi Martin,

I once spoke to a Geologist and an Australian museum curator about this.
Apparantly some birds actually eat stones to aid in digestion. Go figure!
;-)

Cheers,

Jeff

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Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin


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[meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin 


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RE: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mike Bandli
I know for a fact that this is true having witnessed it myself. They do this
mistaking them for nuts (still in the shell). The rocks happen to resemble
the shape and color of a nut, so they will often drop them from high up
hoping that they will shatter. Crows are the main culprit. I have also seen
crows dropping rocks and walnuts onto the road, hoping that cars will run
them over and reveal the meaty interior. Smart creatures! Now if only we
could train some pigeons to go to NWA and hunt for dark colored 'Nuts' in
the sand...

Kind regards,
 
Mike Bandli
www.Astro-Artifacts.com
A Destination For Space Related Artifacts
 

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Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mark
What some birds, such as the magpie and crows, is that they are attracted to 
bright and shinny objects. One species, and I can't remember which it is, 
will actually collect things to line his nest to make himself more 
attractive to the female. If they are disturbed in anyway while flying, they 
will drop whatever they are carrying.


Another possibility is that some of these rocks are from birds just taking 
off. Birds will eliminate feces at takeoff to lighten their load and of 
course, gizzard stones do get passed when they become too smooth


Hope this will help a little.

Mark Ferguson
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Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard 
a

stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies 
caused

troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a 
behaviour?


Martin


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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 02:52:03 +0100, you wrote:

Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?

There are types of birds that collect objects for some reason or another.

http://archives.stupidquestion.net/sq11702.html

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/bowerbird/odd.html
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AW: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Thanks Mike, Mark and Mark!

Indeed crows, ravens, magpies are very intelligent, do have compared to
mammals a developped idea of numbers and are even able to use tools.
I prefer the nuts-thing, as the stones aren't directly decorative.

I remember a little tropical bird, who accurately sorted by colours
decorates in front of his nest objects like petals, beetle elytrons ect. to
impress the ladies.

Most crazy are the Keas, they easily get bored and like to play half of the
day.

Chirp!
Martin

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I know for a fact that this is true having witnessed it myself. They do this
mistaking them for nuts (still in the shell). The rocks happen to resemble
the shape and color of a nut, so they will often drop them from high up
hoping that they will shatter. Crows are the main culprit. I have also seen
crows dropping rocks and walnuts onto the road, hoping that cars will run
them over and reveal the meaty interior. Smart creatures! Now if only we
could train some pigeons to go to NWA and hunt for dark colored 'Nuts' in
the sand...

Kind regards,
 
Mike Bandli
www.Astro-Artifacts.com
A Destination For Space Related Artifacts
 

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

Hola list,

I have a stupid question for the ornithologists.
Does it happen, that birds are throwing with stones?
At least once per year I get an email from people, who swear to have heard a
stone hitting the roof and rolling down,
recently again and the stone even should have had a red mark, where it hit
the tile. The stones are quite small, often round or egg-shaped.
I remembered an article years ago, reporting that a group of magpies caused
troubles in the Netherlands, frequently damaging parking cars in dropping
stones.
Can this story be true and if so, what are the reasons for such a behaviour?

Martin 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Falling stones and birds...

2006-11-08 Thread Mr EMan
Ok Meteorite Trivia Buffs...Wasn't there a meteorite
recovered which had been nesstled into the lining of a
penguin nest(sic) or other species of sea bird?

Elton
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