Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Hi Mike, indeed, check the archives, I'm busy. All that exportation-ban-and-all-belongs-to-the-state-blah-blah was based on some administrative orders of the 19th century, where the clerks were advised where to forward meteorites to, if they get hands on, hence touching the ownership-question in no way. Today you have it in the Indian constitution, that meteorites don't belong to the Republic. The paragraph I gave here on the list. Which says, that all finds, which before were bestowed upon the King, shall be property of the Republic. King: In the short time between independence and the formation of the new constitution, The English King was degraded from an Emperor of India to a King of India. Hence de facto it's the British Common law adapted to the new Republic. And as we all know, in England and Scotland, the finds of gold and silver go to Queen Lizzy, but the finds of meteorites go to Rob Elliott. See also the very funny Monty-Python-style debate in the House of Lords about a bill, which asked to make all meteorites to a property of the state (the link to the protocol I gave once here on the list). Anyway, Meteorite laws - that is the (self-chosen) job of the IMCA, so most probably they can answer all your questions of that legal complex in a more qualified way. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 04:32 An: Greg Catterton Cc: Meteorite List; robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Dear list members, XINING is OFFICIAL in the MetBull now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57470 Martin Von: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com An: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Datum: Thu, 23 May 2013 01:04:31 +0200 Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
About time:) I have some killer fragments available. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 23, 2013, at 9:59 PM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, XINING is OFFICIAL in the MetBull now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57470 Martin Von: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com An: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Datum: Thu, 23 May 2013 01:04:31 +0200 Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Robert, The meteorite goes by the name Xining and can be found on eBay. Just one of the many that China appears to not (want to) publish. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Somebody please poke the Chinese with a pointed stick and get them back on task. This fall and the Zunhua fall need to be published and made official. Best regards, MikeG PS - poke GSI with a stick also and get them busy on Katol. On 5/22/13, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Robert, The meteorite goes by the name Xining and can be found on eBay. Just one of the many that China appears to not (want to) publish. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Plenty was found, but I have no idea why the Chinese have refused to publish it. I have a couple kilos of fragments if you want some. Great meteorite, at least 100 kilos recovered. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Robert Beauford robertbeauf...@rocketmail.com wrote: The early reports on the Feb 11, 2012, fall from Qinghai province seemed to indicate that it should lead to an epic recovery, but I have not heard of a subsequent name, classification, or any large number of finds... was I just not paying attention at the right moment (entirely possible), or did nobody do any hunting in earnest after the snow melted in the spring? Thanks, in advance, for any thoughts. -Robert __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Not to mention this obvious fact a lot of people are overlooking about Katol Katol is not a meteorite yet. It has not been published or recognized by MetSoc. Even if there is a law against exporting meteorites from India (which I doubt), it would not apply to Katol, yet. Until it's approved, it's a rock. On 5/22/13, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
And by the way it was the 1st anniversary of the fall yesterday. Sami Makki On 23-May-2013, at 8:09, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall
yes, in honor of that I will have something very special to offer in a couple of days:). Katol is a great meteorite, and a very fun trip. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On May 22, 2013, at 10:57 PM, Me Teor m3t30r1t3...@gmail.com wrote: And by the way it was the 1st anniversary of the fall yesterday. Sami Makki On 23-May-2013, at 8:09, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Completely agree. No law valid today. British law was thrown out at independence. Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2013, at 9:32 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Here we go again with Katol. Someone show me the law against exporting meteorites from India. And I don't mean show me a 150-year old British Empire mandate that no longer applies. I have spoken to people in India about this and they all say the same thing - they know of no modern Indian law against meteorite exportation. Whoever started this rumor is engaging in speculation at best and they have an agenda at the worst. AFAIK, Katol is legal to own. If someone can produce a reliable and authoritative source who is familiar with Indian law and that person can state that it is indeed illegal and point to the relevant laws, then I will change my mind. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone RSS - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 - On 5/22/13, Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com wrote: thing is, katol is illegal to own or export without permit... Greg Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
