Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-06 Thread Jason Utas

Hello McCartney, All,
I doubt its meteoric origin as well.
I've personally seen a number of other fresh iron falls and all that had
been recovered recently after falling had been beautifully fusion crusted,
if not on all surfaces, then all save one or two.  This other side or two
have always (100% of the time) either been clearly torn, displaying a
widmanstatten pattern of some sort, or sheared, displaying clear parallel
stress lines  (see Boguslavka, Ziz, Taza, for examples of this, and of
fusion crust on irons).
The object from NJ appears to have been heavily battered.  Assuming it truly
is a meteorite, it's either not an 'ordinary' iron (its odd surface could be
due to a non-uniform internal composition), or else it's part of a huge fall
such as Sikhote-Alin, with enough fragments created at the end point of its
trajectory to cause some serious damage to each other in the fall.  I've yet
to see anything like this phenomenon in any irons save Sikhote-Alin, even
amongst other recently fallen crater-forming irons.
Why anyone should doubt the existence of fusion crust on a freshly fallen
iron is beyond me - have a look at Cabin Creek if you want proof that it
still forms on smallish irons falling at terminal velocity.
Regards,
Jason

On 1/4/07, Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:


No way

Darren Garrison wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote:
>
>> I propose we take a vote
>> Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?
>>
>
> Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video, I
vote "yes".
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-05 Thread Tom Randall (KB2SMS)


I vote no. Just fell and no fusion crust? Something stinks here

Tom
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On Jan 4, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Matt Morgan wrote:


No way

Darren Garrison wrote:

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote:


I propose we take a vote
Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?



Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video,  
I vote "yes".

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Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-05 Thread greg stanley
I vote yes - that the NJO is a meteorite
   
  It's magnetic
  The density is right
  And the shape - curved and elongated - looks like it was shaped by falling
  There does appear to be some Regmaglypts
  The color is goldish - but that could due to be the lighting during filming
   
  I was wondering, who legally owns it?
   
  -Greg Stanley

Darren Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote:
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>I propose we take a vote
>Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?

Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video, I vote "yes".
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-04 Thread Matt Morgan
No way

Darren Garrison wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote:
>   
>> I propose we take a vote
>> Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?
>> 
>
> Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video, I vote 
> "yes".
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Re: [meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-04 Thread Darren Garrison
On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 15:01:17 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I propose we take a vote
>Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?

Judging from what I could see in that short, low-resolution video, I vote "yes".
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[meteorite-list] Iron Falls & NJO

2007-01-04 Thread McCartney Taylor
I respectfully can't agree with Mr. Pitt on the NJO (New Jersey Object).

We must all remember that new iron falls will NOT look like Sikhote
Alin, Canyon Diablo, or Campos.  Those falls did not slow down to the
retardation point, they kept a significant fraction of their cosmic
velocity.  They have enhanced thumbprinting and flowlines due to their
high speeds in the much thicker levels of the atmosphere as they bore
thru dense air.

I've dug up several irons in my new strewnfield that are just as ugly as
the NJO. Most collectors forget that the hunters take the ugly ones to
the saw for slices, while the pretty ones are the specimines. Thus,
collectors see a skewed image of irons.

I propose we take a vote
Who votes the NJO is a meteorite?

-mt
IMCA 2760


> 
> it's pretty clearly indicated that the colorado event was not a  
> bolide and that the new jersey object is not a new meteorite.

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