Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Busted!!! That is proof of blatant deception. I'm glad I have not purchased anything from Jorge! Bob -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 1:37 PM To: Ken Newton Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Jorge M. Gonçalves Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON,be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List,I am warning you... Wow! Thanks you Ken for bringing that to light!! Blatant that is. Jorge, it would seem you have been backed into a corner. I await your rebuttal as I have purchased several witnessed falls from you though they have been separated from our Main collection and put into the suspect cabinet. Please, do explain... Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6141 - Release Date: 03/01/13 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
(Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Wow! Thanks you Ken for bringing that to light!! Blatant that is. Jorge, it would seem you have been backed into a corner. I await your rebuttal as I have purchased several witnessed falls from you though they have been separated from our Main collection and put into the suspect cabinet. Please, do explain... Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
If you would all stop buying from random scammers, the scams might stop. Just sayin:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Based on the link below, that should be enough for eBay to pull not just the listing but others as well. Slap, slap, oh sorry, I was obviously dreaming. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com Cc: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... If you would all stop buying from random scammers, the scams might stop. Just sayin:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
eBay makes money on sales, they do not care if they are sale of fake or real items. Forget eBay and you would be happier. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Based on the link below, that should be enough for eBay to pull not just the listing but others as well. Slap, slap, oh sorry, I was obviously dreaming. Mendy Ouzillou From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com Cc: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... If you would all stop buying from random scammers, the scams might stop. Just sayin:) Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Brandon, Ken and Listers I spoke with an ebay rep and he told me the Oum Dreyga witnessed 2003 Meteorite fall 19.3gr INDIVIDUAL ONDA2 http://www.ebay.com/itm/350701318767 was placed on ebay in Jan 2013 for 30 day auction, well before the feb 15 the 2013 Russian fall. Chelyabinsk RUSSIA 2013 Meteor Event 19.00gr Very Rare Meteorite Specimen http://www.ebay.com/itm/321081034359 To top it off, he even places the Chelyabinsk meteorite on top of the id knowing that at one point it was posted as a Oum Dreyga meteorite. If I was you guys and other people on the list, report the two auctions as fraud on the report link and also call up ebay and have them also do a fraud report as well. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 - Original Message - From: Brandon b1dunov...@aol.com To: Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2013 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... What's really a shame, is that the intentionally mislabeled meteorites he peddles are likely displayed with his hand-written authenticity cards , or worse, have been resold or broke down and now belong to countless collections. What a shame Truly. Brandon D. On Mar 2, 2013, at 2:15 PM, Ken Newton magellon@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry if this is a duplicate) Jorge (galeriacores), Please kindly explain to the List and myself as to how your authentic OUM Dreyga magically became an authentic Chelyabinsk See: http://meteorite-identification.com/updates.html Hmmm? Ken Newton On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Jorge, The small fragment you've already sold and the 19g stone you currently have for sale are both H-chondrites. Chelyabinsk is an LL5. I would suggest refunding the buyer of the 1.20 gram fragment you've already sold and pulling the 19 gram stone. Maybe I'll try writing some Russian labels for my Bassikounou's and listing them for $20+/g. They'll have labels, right? That means they must be authentic. Jason From: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
To whom it may concern: This is an example of the reason that I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows! I have a sheet that I give interested customers which lists this list along with others related to the meteorite, mineral, and fossil hobby. I have had too many folks that related to me later that they were offended by the tone and/or language on the Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com list that I felt that I had to remover it from my suggestions for information. Just my thoughts ... rant on, Guys, RANT ON! John Teague Volunteer Gems -Original Message- From: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 28, 2013 12:51 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
No...please don't! ;-) On Feb 28, 2013, at 1:34 PM, John Teague wrote: To whom it may concern: This is an example of the reason that I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows! I have a sheet that I give interested customers which lists this list along with others related to the meteorite, mineral, and fossil hobby. I have had too many folks that related to me later that they were offended by the tone and/or language on the Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com list that I felt that I had to remover it from my suggestions for information. Just my thoughts ... rant on, Guys, RANT ON! John Teague Volunteer Gems -Original Message- From: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 28, 2013 12:51 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Like I have said many times. Collector confidence is at an all time low when it comes to new falls due to a few bad people. It only takes one person substituting material from one fall to totally ruin the confidence in another. This is the main reason I no longer collect recent falls or chase them for that matter. Even genuine material comes under unnecessary scrutiny and is assumed fake before being proven real in many cases. I think dealers shouldn't assume somebody is guilty without it being blatantly obvious. It is not the American way to assume somebody is guilty before being proven innocent. Many have forgotten American history and should crack the books! Happy Collecting, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you...
Hi John, Anyone offended by the the tone and language on the Meteorite List must be living extremely sheltered lives! I'm guessing none of them have ever been on Facebook or anywhere out in the real world if they find the Met List too offensive. Seriously, if you would pass up all the great information on the Met List because you're not protected from the occasional outburst that may possibly offend your dainty politically correct sensibilities, you have other far greater issues. Phil Whitmer Joshua Tree Earth Space Museum - Original Message - From: John Teague volg...@icx.net To: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... To whom it may concern: This is an example of the reason that I NO LONGER suggest this list to my customers at shows! I have a sheet that I give interested customers which lists this list along with others related to the meteorite, mineral, and fossil hobby. I have had too many folks that related to me later that they were offended by the tone and/or language on the Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com list that I felt that I had to remover it from my suggestions for information. Just my thoughts ... rant on, Guys, RANT ON! John Teague Volunteer Gems -Original Message- From: Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com Sent: Feb 28, 2013 12:51 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] JASON, be carefull what you say about my meteorites on the Meteorite List, I am warning you... Jason, I was asked by the owner of the METEORITE LIST not to write any offensive language or insult any one publicly on this list but apparently you don't respect that policy. All I said is that my Russian meteorite specimens on Ebay come with a card of authenticity from the Russian seller. Before you start accusing me of anything please ask someone to interpret the card for you. The name of the seller and his respective residence is on that card and to me that is all the written proof I need. Jorge 2013/2/28 jason utas jasonu...@gmail.com Jorge, 1) I am not selling any material from this fall, nor do I plan to. 2) So much of the material you're selling in your ebay account is so painfully misrepresented that I fear no threat from you. You're either woefully ignorant, or a cheat. Either way, you have no grounds to be threatening anyone who points this out. Written proof is worth as much as the person who's writing it, which apparently means nothing in your case. Jason On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Jorge M. Gonçalves galeriaco...@gmail.com wrote: You've got some nerve to come on the Meteorite List and start exalting your specimens from Russia and condemning my own. Pardon my language expression, but who the fuck do you think you are??? As far as I'm concerned I'm the only one showing written proof from the seller, as far as I know all the other pieces don't come with any written proof showing any authenticity. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
