Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you are possibly and probably getting scammed. Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco that sell to me? What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices cheaper than they sold to you. In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very common game and we all lose for it. Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run laughing to the bank. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo! Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
Welcome to the club. There is no need for value added middlemen anymore since the distribution model is Finder to Moroccan Dealer in Eurfud directly to Collector. No need for classifications when they can let a little bit of a new find out and borrow (steal) the nomenclature and classification from somebody who follows the rules. This is a collectors dream as far as pricing goes unless they want legitimate nomenclature and classifications. Thankfully, There are no pairing issues in artifacts, the direction I am heading. I will remain a meteorite collector but the days of hunting are soon coming to an end thanks to a few people. Adam - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net Cc: MeteorList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you are possibly and probably getting scammed. Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco that sell to me? What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices cheaper than they sold to you. In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very common game and we all lose for it. Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run laughing to the bank. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
By the way, I asked a Moroccan Facebook dealer why they thought their meteorite was Jbilet Winselwan and the answer was it's black. Gives a great feeling of confidence eh? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you are possibly and probably getting scammed. Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco that sell to me? What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices cheaper than they sold to you. In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very common game and we all lose for it. Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run laughing to the bank. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
Aloha meteorite afficianadoes, CAVEAT EMPTOR - buyer beware! Keep meteorites real! You cannot go wrong buying from established and respected dealers who have a history of properly analyzing and classifying meteorites. Best bet is to buy from a dealer who is actually listed on the Meteoritical Society Meteorite Bulletin report, such as the ones listed in the Jbilet Winselwan writeup: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided byFarmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. All others are self paired unclassified meteorites. Its really quite simple isn't it? http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin2.html gary On Aug 26, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you are possibly and probably getting scammed. Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco that sell to me? What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices cheaper than they sold to you. In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very common game and we all lose for it. Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run laughing to the bank. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
In the immortal words of John Cutter - Always bet on black. ;) I know my Jbilet Winselwan is the real thing. #1 - it is indeed very black. LOL. #2 - I acquired it from one of the named mass-holders in the Met Bulletin write-up. BTW, I think I saw some Jbilet Winselwan for sale at Walmart today. The name of the dealer was Kingsford . Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/26/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: By the way, I asked a Moroccan Facebook dealer why they thought their meteorite was Jbilet Winselwan and the answer was it's black. Gives a great feeling of confidence eh? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I am tired of the Moroccans coming on here and selling unclassified meteorites undercutting those of us who have put in our time and money to get the scientific work done. I bought a large amount of this meteorite at a high price, sent multiple samples to be classified, including to NASA for organics work, and before I arrived back home from a trip I see both other dealers and Moroccans dumping it at less than my cost. If you are buying from people who did not submit specimens for classification, you are possibly and probably getting scammed. Am I the only one sick of being undercut by the same people in Morocco that sell to me? What is the purpose of helping these people get classifications just so they can instantly stab you in the back and dump more material at prices cheaper than they sold to you. In matching their prices, I am now losing money. It is easy for the lazy dealer to grab some material and piggyback other people's work to rapidly sell out without putting their own money at risk. It has become a very common game and we all lose for it. Sick of the Moroccan/Nigerian scam model of take the money and run laughing to the bank. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh
[meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
Does anyone have a photo of the 900g specimen? Martin Von: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com An: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de Cc: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan Datum: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:55:52 +0200 I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
It has a great name, worthy of such a fresh and rare type. One of the freshest cm2 meteorites I've seen, many pieces have velvety black crust some flow lines even. It is very fragile and most pieces shattered into fragments. Wind and sand did their work on exposed surfaces which polished them up. I actually wire saw cut some pieces and the interior is gorgeous. This is a must have for any carbonaceous collector. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) What are five minutes in the life of a meteorite, Mike? ;-) And yes, it is breathtakingly beautiful matter! Best regards Martin Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com An: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de, met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan Datum: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:58:54 +0200 Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http
[meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great prices too!
Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
Agreed about the name. It sounds like something from a sci-fi script. It's either the name of a Jedi Knight Jbilet Winselwan who trained under Yoda, or it's the name of Harry Potter's pet homunculus. Definitely one of the coolest-looking names in a while. I am somewhat at a loss for how to pronounce it. I'll need to hear someone speak it before I'll know if I am pronouncing it correctly in my head. In my head and I am hearing myself say something like Giblet Winzel-wan ...? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: It has a great name, worthy of such a fresh and rare type. One of the freshest cm2 meteorites I've seen, many pieces have velvety black crust some flow lines even. It is very fragile and most pieces shattered into fragments. Wind and sand did their work on exposed surfaces which polished them up. I actually wire saw cut some pieces and the interior is gorgeous. This is a must have for any carbonaceous collector. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
I think this bears repeating - Jbilet Winselwan is a good example of how to properly classify a meteorite from a diverse region such as the Saharan NWA dense collection area. Thanks to careful coordination between scientists, hunters, and collector/dealers, the various individual separate finds were gathered together under one lead and this was collectively classified to achieve a single non-anonymous entry in the Meteoritical Bulletin. Previously, a find like this would have been split up a dozen ways independently with no communication or coordination between the parities who acquired material from the field. Each party would have classified their own material, which would have resulted in several redundant and anonymous NWA entries in the Met Bull. Instead, we now have a single concise accounting of this new find. Well done to everyone involved. This is how it should be done. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed about the name. It sounds like something from a sci-fi script. It's either the name of a Jedi Knight Jbilet Winselwan who trained under Yoda, or it's the name of Harry Potter's pet homunculus. Definitely one of the coolest-looking names in a while. I am somewhat at a loss for how to pronounce it. I'll need to hear someone speak it before I'll know if I am pronouncing it correctly in my head. In my head and I am hearing myself say something like Giblet Winzel-wan ...? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: It has a great name, worthy of such a fresh and rare type. One of the freshest cm2 meteorites I've seen, many pieces have velvety black crust some flow lines even. It is very fragile and most pieces shattered into fragments. Wind and sand did their work on exposed surfaces which polished them up. I actually wire saw cut some pieces and the interior is gorgeous. This is a must have for any carbonaceous collector. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan
I too have some of this CM2 and at very good prices. I have small pieces up to 2-3G and a big 76g oriented half stone. Email off list. Mendy Ouzillou On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ha And here's my modest specimen ;-) http://www.woreczko.pl/meteorites/news/JbiletWinselwan.htm Best Woreczko - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de Cc: met-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and fragments of Types I and II. These include BO-PO, formerly metal-rich, and olivine-pyroxene Type I chondrules. Type II chondrules with forsterite relict grains are present. There are regions packed with chondrule material and coarse PCP, and zones with scattered chondrule material in fine-grained matrix. Chondrule sizes range up to 1.2 mm, though most are around 200 μm. A few CAIs are 800 μm. Powder x-ray diffraction shows a strong 0.7 nm peak for serpentines, a broad but weaker peak around 1.3 nm corresponding to smectites, and a weak broad peak consistent with tochilinite. Geochemistry: (R. Hewins, MNHNP) Olivine is Fa0.98±0.44 and Fa25-40. Pyroxene is Fs2.6±1.5 and Fs40-61. Rare kamacite with 5.8 wt% Ni is present. (P. Cartigny, IPGP) The oxygen isotopic compositions of two pieces were determined as δ18O 3.811±0.09 and 5.851±0.016, δ17O -2.446±0.040 and -0.601±0.026, respectively. Δ17O values are -4.441 and -3.663, mean -4.052. Classification: The oxygen isotope compositions, petrography and mineral compositions are all consistent with CM2 Specimens: 17.8 g MNHNP, 17.4 g FSAC provided by L. Labenne, 20 g UNM provided by G. Fujihara, 122 g ASU provided by Farmer. Other collection masses include: Farmer 2.6 kg, Labenne 1.6 kg, T. Jakobowski 512 g, G. Fujihara 358 g, M. Ouzillou 173 g. Best regards Martin Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- This email was Anti Virus checked by Astaro Security Gateway. http://www.astaro.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Big thank you should also go to Hasnaa to ensure this find was given a name instead of a NWA number. Mendy Ouzillou On Aug 21, 2013, at 9:21 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I think this bears repeating - Jbilet Winselwan is a good example of how to properly classify a meteorite from a diverse region such as the Saharan NWA dense collection area. Thanks to careful coordination between scientists, hunters, and collector/dealers, the various individual separate finds were gathered together under one lead and this was collectively classified to achieve a single non-anonymous entry in the Meteoritical Bulletin. Previously, a find like this would have been split up a dozen ways independently with no communication or coordination between the parities who acquired material from the field. Each party would have classified their own material, which would have resulted in several redundant and anonymous NWA entries in the Met Bull. Instead, we now have a single concise accounting of this new find. Well done to everyone involved. This is how it should be done. :) Best regards and happy huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed about the name. It sounds like something from a sci-fi script. It's either the name of a Jedi Knight Jbilet Winselwan who trained under Yoda, or it's the name of Harry Potter's pet homunculus. Definitely one of the coolest-looking names in a while. I am somewhat at a loss for how to pronounce it. I'll need to hear someone speak it before I'll know if I am pronouncing it correctly in my head. In my head and I am hearing myself say something like Giblet Winzel-wan ...? Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: It has a great name, worthy of such a fresh and rare type. One of the freshest cm2 meteorites I've seen, many pieces have velvety black crust some flow lines even. It is very fragile and most pieces shattered into fragments. Wind and sand did their work on exposed surfaces which polished them up. I actually wire saw cut some pieces and the interior is gorgeous. This is a must have for any carbonaceous collector. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:58 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Martin, you beat me by about 5 minutes! :) List, this must be a wonderful CM2, because it garnered two announcements in five minutes. :) Count me in as officially on the lookout for some small crumbs of this one - contact me off-list if you have some available. Best regards, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 8/21/13, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: I have plenty of it. Great fresh CM2. For sale now. Fragments for .1 gram up to ~60 grams. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 8:49 AM, karmaka karmaka-meteori...@t-online.de wrote: Dear list members, Jbilet Winselwan (CM2) is official now: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=57788 Jbilet Winselwan26°40.044’N, 11°40.637’W Morocco/Western Sahara Found: 24 May 2013 Classification: Carbonaceous chondrite (CM2) History: (H. Chennaoui Aoudjehane, M. Aoudjehane, A. Laroussi, A. Bouferra) In early June 2013, A. Bouferra, a meteorite hunter from Smara, reported a new carbonaceous chondrite that had been found close to Smara. Due to its proximity to Smara (7 km), many meteorite hunters visited the area in the summer of 2013. Physical characteristics: Total mass is estimated about 6 kg, with small and complete pieces between 3 and 10 g, a few medium-sized pieces 10 to 200 g and rare big pieces 200 g. The largest sample is ~900 g. Fresh looking fusion is crust present on many fragments. Some fragments are wind ablated. Some cracks contain secondary, crystalline alteration products. Interior of stones is black and peppered with chondrules. Petrography: (R. Hewins, MNHNP, L Garvie, ASU). The meteorite contains chondrules and
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great prices too!
Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! Page 1 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm Page 2 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great prices too!
Here's a few nice Jbilet Winselwan specimens I put on eBay today! http://www.ebay.com/sch/galacticgold-nugget/m.html?item=321190883487ssPageName=STRK%3AMESELX%3AITrt=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2562 On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo!
A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo! Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! Page 1 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm Page 2 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo! Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! Page 1 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm Page 2 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo! Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! Page 1 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm Page 2 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does
Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2
I agree, Being in direct contact when possible to provide the best possible 'accurate' information has always been one of my main considerations in my meteoritic presence, which has been a daily activity for the last 18 years or so! My most profound congratulations and respect go to Dr. Hasnaa Chennaoui et. al. for their consistent and accurate work when it come to NWA meteorites... BUT, please do not suggest a name takes away anything from all of the important meteorites that have been recovered out of North Africa... Most well known for their NWA moniker! Congats again to al involved in such a wonderful collaboration!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:45 PM To: Gary Fujihara Cc: MeteorList Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 I am curious why so many people submits less than the required 20 grams to get work done. Hardly seems fair to those of us who are overly generous all the time. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well, … the name doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Greg. But I hear where you are coming from. But I would like to reiterate what Mike Gilmer said earlier, giving kudos to Hasnaa Chennaoui and Brigitte Zanda for classifying the meteorite with sufficient documentation to warrant a geographic name (as opposed to nondescript NWA number). Following Mike's post, I would also like to say that I was in communication with Hasnaa, and other holders of this Smara CM2 material to gather information for TKW, to consolidate all known holdings under a single classification. And this is not the first time, I've consolidated with other dealers and collectors over NWA 7464, 7465, 7466. Please consider sharing information with others before submitting for classification, as its far easier to consolidate before than to pair afterward. As a bonus, all holders can cost share the type deposit and analysis fees. And no, this is not a shameless plug, but since you ask, http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/JbiletWin.html gary ;^) On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:16 PM, Greg Hupé gmh...@centurylink.net wrote: A name does not make a meteorite... the meteorite itself makes a name for itself... ... only time will tell if this one is great and will live on for the ages!!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupé The Hupé Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog Reference Site) www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest eBay) http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault IMCA 3163 Click here for my current eBay auctions: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:17 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Jbilet Winselwan CM2 for sale - Great pricestoo! Hi All, Thanks to everyone that has emailed or called to purchase Jbilet Winselwan. I see a lot of interest in this CM2 meteorite for a bunch of reasons - price, name (as opposed to a number), freshness, etc... Take a look as I now have 2 pages of specimens to choose from. Starting at only $40 per gram. Many smaller sizes too - from about 10mg to 5 grams as well as larger specimens up to 40 grams! Page 1 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm Page 2 http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwanpage2.htm On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Ruben Garcia rubengarcia85...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I just left some nice specimens with Dr Laurence Garvie (via ASU trade) but have more! I have tiny fragments (many crusted) also larger crusted specimens. Starting at only $40 per gram. check it out http://www.mrmeteorite.com/jbiletwinselwannewcm2.htm call or email for more info 602 388 9618 -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia http://www.MrMeteorite.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com wrote: Well
