Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar vs NWA 5000

[Greg Hupe via Meteorite-list]

I don't have time for anybody's BS here. I especially have not gone further 
reading after Darryl's and the Keyboard Kommander himself denouncing 
(Claiming) their claims to Fame. I am really tired of these kind of 
opportunists trying to Hijack my 'simple' "Thank You". How pathetic is 
that?!!!


Can I not do MY JOB without some lazy opportunists taking advantage of my 
friends?!!!


Ask yourself that and sleep well..

Best Regards,
Greg


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-Original Message- 
From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list

Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:07 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar vs NWA 5000

I just now realized how I had left out an important piece of the email 
earlier.
The Kalahari lunars have never been seen or exhibited publicly. I and many 
others have serious doubts about even their existence.
The tiny samples shows in photos show a very ugly lunar. Those could never 
be compared to NWA 5000 in value or any other way. I forgot to add the name 
in my last email. Please don't get confused. If anyone claims to have a 
lunar nicer or larger please put it on the scale and show it. Otherwise it's 
all just talk.

Michael Farmer



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Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar vs NWA 5000

[Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list]

The Kalahari "Lunar meteorites", if they exist at all at the claimed 
weights, have been managed poorly.  First of all, the weight is rounded off 
to an even 13,500 grams on the larger stone which is suspicious to begin 
with and then the only published image is blurry and overexposed. For all we 
know, these stones were weighed on a bathroom or produce scale and we all 
know how accurate those are or the weight might have been guesstimated since 
the scale might top out at ten kilograms.  There are no flight markings or 
anything that resembles a crust.  The way it is, Kalahari 009 would not meet 
the strict standards of achieving a recognizable world record due to poor 
management, lacking documentation and multiple verified witnesses.


NWA 5000, on the other hand, was weight certified within ten minutes of 
unpacking it at the University of Washington with multiple witnesses 
present.  The occasion was well-documented and photographed.  I spent over 
200 hours creating a casting mold and manufacturing two precise replicas in 
order to preserve details which would be lost the second it was cut.   I 
have worked with NWA 5000 since it was found, spent months single-handedly 
negotiating its purchase, thousands of hours solely micromanaging every 
aspect of it including developing a website that is about the stone and not 
me.  I have never used this stone to shamelessly promote myself; It has 
always been about the stone.


I spent the first six years, before others came onboard, trying to place the 
nearly complete NWA 5000 main mass whole but ran into interference every 
step of the way.  This included three well-known dealers offering the 
Kalahari "lunar" main mass to prospective buyers.  I asked repeatedly for 
them to produce the Kalahari "moon rocks" and even offered to purchase them.


When it came time, the Kalahari "lunar meteorites" were nowhere to be seen 
which is the case of many other fraudulent offerings.


The Shirokovsky Pallasite comes to mind every time I think of the Kalahari 
"Moon Rocks."


Now there is a claim of a puzzle meteorite weighing twice as much. 
Reassemble the weathered out puzzle, have it weight certified and then we 
will see.  Until then, these recent statements mean nothing to be me other 
than another jealous or feeble competitive attempt at the top-rated, 
Legendary NWA 5000 Lunar Meteorite.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence!

Adam 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar vs NWA 5000

[Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list]

Folks

NWA 5000 is a spectacular meteorite whose resume did not require enhancing.  I 
wholly agree there is no lunar that's nicer.  That said, Kalahari 009 exists 
—it's a fact.  I am not going to climb into the details other than to share 
that the owner is a paranoid eccentric who has gone to great lengths to remain 
anonymous.  That's all that is at work here.  Nothing nefariousjust put 
Occam's Razor back into play.   In addition, I know of two other lunar masses 
that are larger than NWA 5000—one reassembled and one intact.  




On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:07 PM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:

> I just now realized how I had left out an important piece of the email 
> earlier. 
> The Kalahari lunars have never been seen or exhibited publicly. I and many 
> others have serious doubts about even their existence. 
> The tiny samples shows in photos show a very ugly lunar. Those could never be 
> compared to NWA 5000 in value or any other way. I forgot to add the name in 
> my last email. Please don't get confused. If anyone claims to have a lunar 
> nicer or larger please put it on the scale and show it. Otherwise it's all 
> just talk. 
> Michael Farmer
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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[meteorite-list] Kalahari lunar vs NWA 5000

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

I just now realized how I had left out an important piece of the email earlier. 
The Kalahari lunars have never been seen or exhibited publicly. I and many 
others have serious doubts about even their existence. 
The tiny samples shows in photos show a very ugly lunar. Those could never be 
compared to NWA 5000 in value or any other way. I forgot to add the name in my 
last email. Please don't get confused. If anyone claims to have a lunar nicer 
or larger please put it on the scale and show it. Otherwise it's all just talk. 
Michael Farmer



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