[meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
A yes, we'll known scammer. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, B b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: John (Bryan) Scarborough. . Can't recall his previous Ebay tag. I'll give him credit.. its a very nice slice. But then again, my very fresh unclassified slice sure looked a lot like his Amgala, shape and all, and it too was very nice looking :) Me myself, couldnt have a piece in my main collection which was questionable. Thus why I have a separate partition for my nice but not sure about specimens. Brandon D. Original message From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
To answer Bill and Mike, That smaller slice looks good for Ash Creek to me, and the larger (supposed Mifflin) looks about right to me as well. Yes, they're similar, but...a little different. The original Lonestar Meteorites fellow was somewhat obscure, definitely on the up-and-up. But, John Bryan Scarborough switched his ebay handle to a similar name some months ago. Documented misrepresented material has included Deport, Ash Creek, Mifflin, and Oum Dreyga. Off-looking specimens that were never analytically verified have included several others. Even experienced, well-regarded dealers make mistakes from time to time, but at some point it's just a bit much... Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody might offer some input or opinions on a 8.26g slice of Mifflin currently for sale on eBay. http://tiny.cc/tugmyw Great price if as stated.. but is it or not? Thanks, Brandon D. IMCA# 9312 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay
The specimen he offered as Ash Creek is obvoiusly not the same material as the slice he offered as Mifflin. I don't care if he's a scammer, adled or just mixed up. If you're going to buy you'd best do your due diligence. That's how bargains are found and as much as I do respect the integrity of the majors, I still believe in good deals lost in the shuffle. From: m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:59:53 -0700 To: b1dunov...@aol.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay A yes, we'll known scammer. Good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:59 PM, B b1dunov...@aol.com wrote: John (Bryan) Scarborough. . Can't recall his previous Ebay tag. I'll give him credit.. its a very nice slice. But then again, my very fresh unclassified slice sure looked a lot like his Amgala, shape and all, and it too was very nice looking :) Me myself, couldnt have a piece in my main collection which was questionable. Thus why I have a separate partition for my nice but not sure about specimens. Brandon D. Original message From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Date: To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay The fact that the label is for Springwater seems to be a problem to me. I also think it is more likely Ash Creek. Who is Lonestar meteorites? Wasn't that a known scammer? Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Bill, Brandon, Mendy, all, Honestly, this slice doesn't look bad. If you compare the breccias: (real, from a stone found by Sonny Clary) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUSEUM-QUALITY-CRUSTED-FULL-SLICE-MAGNIFICENT-MIFFLIN-METEORITE-L5-12-57-GMS-/200687083720?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb9e1e0c8 (?) http://www.ebay.com/itm/MIFFLIN-L5-METEORITE-8-26g-BEAUTIFUL-CRUSTED-SLICE-WITNESSED-FALL-4-14-2010-/271220743348?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f26041cb4nma=truesi=jHrsL50utK2qqpfbNFqr9%252BcmQSM%253Dorig_cvip=truert=nc_trksid=p2047675.l2557 It looks good. The textures are close, if not identical. But, we know the same seller sliced and sold an unclassified NWA L/LL as Amgala (proven via photographic comparison of sister slices by another list-member). And, we know the variety of NWAs available. It would be tough to find a match this good. But not impossible. Mendy suggested Ash Creek -- they're close, but the brecciated portion of Ash Creek is almost always a lighter grey color and the unbrecciated lasts look a little more homogenous (makes sense, since Ash Creek is an L6 and Mifflin's an L5). Definitely discernible in a line-up of photos. Meh. If I really wanted a slice of Mifflin, I'd probably buy this slice. But I'd scrutinize the hell of out of it, ask him for his source, and verify provenance as far as I could with photos, weights, invoices, etc. Not a purchase I'd personally consider. But it is cheap - if it's real. Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: Bill, To Jason's point, is this past auction Ash Creek, Mifflin or something else: http://bit.ly/13FM9Aw? Compare this Ash Creek to the present Mifflin being discussed. Mendy Ouzillou - Original Message - From: bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com To: Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay Let's forget the seller for the moment. Why is this not Mifflin and what other material do you think it could be? Thanks, Bill -- Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:15:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay From: meteorite...@gmail.com To: parkforest...@hotmail.com CC: b1dunov...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hello Bill, Brandon, All, Given the seller, I'm surprised anyone would consider it without a very good photographic record of provenance. Could be Mifflin: looks better than most of the H-chondrite misrepresented material that was going around. But the same seller recently sold off-looking Nuevo Mercurio and Chelyabinsk, and has a documented history of mixing things up. Wouldn't touch it, myself. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 7:41 PM, bill kies parkforest...@hotmail.com wrote: That slice seemed reasonable. I'm surprised it didn't sell. From: b1dunov...@aol.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 09:52:09 -0500 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Mifflin meteorite for sale on EBay All, I wondered if anybody
