Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Darryl Pitt via Meteorite-list]

Hi Everyone…

Just picked up on this thread and I agree with MikeM.

However, more to his point, Gibeon sold for as little as $16/kg — and 
spectacular specimens.  The Gibeon Owl — the cover lot of the Heritage 
Meteorite catalog of several years back — that’s right, acquired for $16/kg. 

Certainly there are specimens of Sericho which are wanting, but anyone who 
passes on a chance to purchase good material for $2.00/g let alone $0.20/g will 
find themselves wanting.  If possible, examine the exterior rind before making 
an acquisition  If the olivine and metallic matrix are clearly articulated, 
there’s an excellent chance you’re good. When the exterior surface exhibits a 
lack of material differentiation, that’s when serious weathering has occurred 
and I would suggest being far more cautious. 


All the best / Darryl





> On Dec 4, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Mike Miller via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all I rarely post to the list, but felt compelled to point out the 
> obvious. First of all to the HUGE TKW of this find. Do you remember all those 
> tons and tons of $100 per kilo Gibeons that used to be floating around? All 
> gone How about the metric tons of Seymchan pallasites.yep all gone. 
> Or maybe the cargo ships laden with Campo's, you guessed it almost all gone. 
> Sericho will also be all gone in 10 short years or less. 
>  Now to the stability of Sericho, yes it helps to get a big dry specimen to 
> start with, but most any pallasite can be stabilized. Many times crappy 
> preparation has resulted in a rusty meteorite, and many more times good 
> preparation techniques have resulted in a lifetime of beautiful pallsites in 
> many peoples collections. The Sericho will be just fine, no matter what the 
> big time know it all's say about it.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
> > in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
> > ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
> >
> > I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
> > reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >>
> >> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
> >> your sofa is required.
> >> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
> >> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
> >> experience.
> >>   Michael Farmer
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
> >>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oops, Chevy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>> --
> >>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
> >>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
> >>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
> >>>
> >>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
> >>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
> >>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports 
> >>>> today of
> >>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping 
> >>>> noises
> >>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
> >>>> ruster.
> >>>>
> >>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
> >>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
> >>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Mike Miller via Meteorite-list]

Hello all I rarely post to the list, but felt compelled to point out the
obvious. First of all to the HUGE TKW of this find. Do you remember all
those tons and tons of $100 per kilo Gibeons that used to be floating
around? All gone How about the metric tons of Seymchan
pallasites.yep all gone. Or maybe the cargo ships laden with Campo's,
you guessed it almost all gone. Sericho will also be all gone in 10 short
years or less.
 Now to the stability of Sericho, yes it helps to get a big dry specimen to
start with, but most any pallasite can be stabilized. Many times crappy
preparation has resulted in a rusty meteorite, and many more times good
preparation techniques have resulted in a lifetime of beautiful pallsites
in many peoples collections. The Sericho will be just fine, no matter what
the big time know it all's say about it.

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> > It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite,
> even
> > in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show
> has
> > ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
> >
> > I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
> > reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >>
> >> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But
> leaving
> >> your sofa is required.
> >> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall
> you
> >> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
> >> experience.
> >>   Michael Farmer
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
> >>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oops, Chevy
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_
> PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%
> 257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_
> trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.
> TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
> >>>
> >>> Rob
> >>> --
> >>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
> >>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
> >>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
> >>>
> >>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
> >>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates
> that
> >>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports
> today of
> >>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping
> noises
> >>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to
> serious
> >>>> ruster.
> >>>>
> >>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment
> other
> >>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
> >>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.
> >>>>
> >>>> I avoid rusters at all costs,
> >>>>
> >>>> Adam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
> >>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
> >>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working
> great. :-D
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
> >>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additionally,
> >>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
> >>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that
> price. That
> >>>>> distinction needs to be made.
> >>>>>
> >>

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Chris Colvin via Meteorite-list]

I'll preface this with the fact that I am a collector. Not a dealer... not
interested. Just collecting.
I purchased a part slice of Sericho from Michael Farmer back at the
beginning of the year.
It was prepared extremely well and remains in its case of desiccant inside
of my display case.
There have been no cases of rust, Lawrencite, or any other issues that are
in question with my specimen.
This is in Minnesota where up until recently the humidity doesn't drop
below 60-70% during spring or summer.
Keeping any sort of Iron in check around this part of the country is a
giant pain.
Hope this cleared some of the questions up.


Regards,

Chris

On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> No Adam,
>
> I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,
>
> I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy Again, however I
> am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout
> their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand.
>
> My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ??
>
> You don't need to make yourself look like a fool.
> I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place !
>
> With some respect, John
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>
>
> I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel.
> Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens
> these lands back up to searching.
>
> Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > Adam,
> >
> > Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..
> >
> > And you just want to listen to yourself..whatever you want to say.
> >
> > Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !
> >
> > Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).
> >
> > What am I Missing ??
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@
> meteoritecentral.com>
> > To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
> >
> >
> > I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
> > reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that
> > millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
> > today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada
> > and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
> > become available again for public enjoyment
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >> As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When
> if the last time you’ve left your house?
> >>
> >> Michael Farmer
> >>
> >>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
> >>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> >>>> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this
> Pallasite, even
> >>>> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the
> show has
> >>>> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
> >>>>
> >>>> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing
> collector
> >>>> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
> >>>>
> >>>> Adam
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But
> leaving
> >>>>> your sofa is required.
> >>>>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t
> recall you
> >>>>> ever owning or sell

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

This was Mike Farmers exact question which was forwarded to the List:

*
"As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When 
if the last time you’ve left your house?"

*

If responding to this makes me look like a fool in your opinion, then so 
be it. The same list members that respond to what I post are generally 
dealers that have a financial stake in what is being discussed and don't 
like to hear what I have to say.


I do not see any collectors being representing in these debates after 
the initial post.  A collector was simply asking advice on the stability 
of this Pallasite which he experienced problems with.


It would be nice to get genuine collectors' opinions but most do not 
care to post for the fear of being attacked if some dealer doesn't like 
what they have say.


Adam


On 12/4/2017 8:49 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:

No Adam,

I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,

I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy Again, however I
am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout
their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand.

My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ??

You don't need to make yourself look like a fool.
I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place !

With some respect, John


- Original Message -
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel.
Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens
these lands back up to searching.

Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?

Adam




On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:

Adam,

Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..

And you just want to listen to yourself..whatever you want to say.

Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !

Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).

What am I Missing ??

John



- Original Message -
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that
millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada
and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
become available again for public enjoyment

Adam




On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the 
last time you’ve left your house?

Michael Farmer


On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.

I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.

Adam





On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
your sofa is required.
We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
experience.
Michael Farmer



On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Oops, Chevy


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0

Rob
--
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
this P

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

No Adam,

I just gave some praise towards you, to someone. However,

I'm in no way Judge, Jury, Sheriff nor Deputy Again, however I
am someone that Realizes when someone/anyone begins to spout
their own tree stump Bull-shit Too often. Gets really old hand.

My question to you is why do you continue to do this -- why, why ??

You don't need to make yourself look like a fool.
I'm the best fool on any List -- you Now take my place !

With some respect, John


- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:32 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel.
Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens
these lands back up to searching.

Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?

Adam




On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Adam,
>
> Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..
>
> And you just want to listen to yourself..whatever you want to say.
>
> Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !
>
> Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).
>
> What am I Missing ??
>
> John
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>
>
> I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
> reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that
> millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
> today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada
> and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
> become available again for public enjoyment
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>> As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if 
>> the last time you’ve left your house?
>>
>> Michael Farmer
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
>>>> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
>>>> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
>>>> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
>>>>> your sofa is required.
>>>>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
>>>>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
>>>>> experience.
>>>>>Michael Farmer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
>>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oops, Chevy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

I was just responding to Mikes post to the List about travel. 
Denationalizing millions of acres is meteorite related since it opens 
these lands back up to searching.


Are you the second list sheriff or just a deputy?

Adam




On 12/4/2017 8:28 PM, John Lutzon via Meteorite-list wrote:

Adam,

Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..

And you just want to listen to yourself..whatever you want to say.

Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !

Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).

What am I Missing ??

John



- Original Message -
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that
millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada
and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
become available again for public enjoyment

Adam




On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the 
last time you’ve left your house?

Michael Farmer


On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.

I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.

Adam





On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
your sofa is required.
We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
experience.
   Michael Farmer



On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Oops, Chevy


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0

Rob
--
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today of
rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises
coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
ruster.

Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
polishing and low humidity storage/display.

I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam





On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D

If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.

Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
distinction needs to be made.

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







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On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:

My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure
to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since t

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Adam,

Now, I truly believe you have lost your focus..

And you just want to listen to yourself..whatever you want to say.

Adam -- this is the Meteorite List ..--stay on Subject !

Subject: - Stabilility of Sericho (Habaswein).

What am I Missing ??

John



- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type
reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that
millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized)
today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada
and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they
become available again for public enjoyment

Adam




On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
> As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the 
> last time you’ve left your house?
>
> Michael Farmer
>
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>
>> Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
>>> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
>>> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
>>> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
>>>> your sofa is required.
>>>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
>>>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
>>>> experience.
>>>>   Michael Farmer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oops, Chevy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>> --
>>>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
>>>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
>>>>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
>>>>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports 
>>>>>> today of
>>>>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping 
>>>>>> noises
>>>>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
>>>>>> ruster.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
>>>>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
>>>>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I avoid rusters at all costs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
>>>>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
>>>>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. 
>>>>>>> :-D
>>&

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

I travel all of the time. I just don't produce Brian Williams type 
reports every time I return home.  You should be happy to hear that 
millions of acres (National Monuments) were restored (denationalized) 
today to meteorite hunting and for actual public use in Utah.  Nevada 
and California are next.  Perhaps I will explore these areas when they 
become available again for public enjoyment


Adam




On 12/4/2017 7:56 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

As if you know anything about what this was selling for in Japan. When if the 
last time you’ve left your house?

Michael Farmer


On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:11 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.

I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.

Adam





On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
your sofa is required.
We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
experience.
  Michael Farmer



On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Oops, Chevy


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0

Rob
--
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today of
rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises
coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
ruster.

Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
polishing and low humidity storage/display.

I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam





On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D

If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.

Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
distinction needs to be made.

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







Sent using the mail.com mail app


On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:

My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure
to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen
was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam


On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just
fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Rock on Mr Haag, awesome to see you post on the met-list again!



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, even
> in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the show has
> ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.
>
> I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector
> reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.
>
> Adam
>
>
>
>
> On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
>>
>> Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving
>> your sofa is required.
>> We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you
>> ever owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your
>> experience.
>>   Michael Farmer
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oops, Chevy
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0
>>>
>>> Rob
>>> ------
>>> From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list"
>>> <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
>>> To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)
>>>
>>>> The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
>>>> this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
>>>> Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today 
>>>> of
>>>> rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping 
>>>> noises
>>>> coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious
>>>> ruster.
>>>>
>>>> Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
>>>> than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
>>>> polishing and low humidity storage/display.
>>>>
>>>> I avoid rusters at all costs,
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
>>>>> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and
>>>>> don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. 
>>>>> :-D
>>>>>
>>>>> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who
>>>>> actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally,
>>>>> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range.
>>>>> Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That
>>>>> distinction needs to be made.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> John A. Shea, MD
>>>>> IMCA 3295
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
>>>>>> clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
>>>>>> preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
>>>>>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
>>>>>> trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
>>>>>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
>>>>>

Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

It is interesting how quickly the price has dropped on this Pallasite, 
even in Japan where it was being dumped over the weekend.  Now that the 
show has ended, it will be interesting what price it brings in Tucson.


I wouldn't pay 20 cents a gram for this material after hearing collector 
reports, even with a lifetime rust-free guarantee.


Adam




On 12/4/2017 6:39 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:

Adam. Give me a break. Sorry you are left behind on this one. But leaving your 
sofa is required.
We are all having a great laugh at this post in Japan. I can’t recall you ever 
owning or selling a pallasite. Please enlighten us as to your experience.
  
Michael Farmer



On Dec 5, 2017, at 11:31 AM, Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list 
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

Oops, Chevy

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0

Rob
--
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to this 
Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that Sericho 
(Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today of rusticles, 
green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping noises coming from 
specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to serious ruster.

Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other than 
avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade polishing and 
low humidity storage/display.

I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam





On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and don't see 
a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. :-D

If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who actually has 
experience working with the meteorite in question.

Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. Expertly 
prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That distinction 
needs to be made.

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







Sent using the mail.com mail app


On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:

My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam


On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[John Lutzon via Meteorite-list]

Adam,

OhhhI thought ther was hope.

I too feel your (and others') pain, paid $2,000 for a Brenham slab that was
beautiful and now is is a bunch of space jewels that will one day be sent to
Twink---for a necklace and bracelet-etc..

Some people get lucky in their purchase and others not. Original condition
and subsequent preparation/preservation seems to be the key + Luck.

"Avoid rusters at all costs" === very subjective !!

What I can't seem to avoid, at all costs, is the impulse to respond to
ongoing, ongoing, continuing posts where the poster is in essence
just enjoying reading his own posts. Got it Adam..

Any further Information (Not Rhetoric) by anyone would be appreciated.

Just my $2,000 worth,
John





- Original Message - 
From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)


The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports
today of rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and
popping noises coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from
ruster to serious ruster.

Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade
polishing and low humidity storage/display.

I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam




On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
> I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and don't 
> see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be 
> working great.  :-D
>
> If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who actually 
> has experience working with the meteorite in question.
>
> Additionally,
> Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. Expertly 
> prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that 
> price. That distinction needs to be made.
>
> Cheers,
> John A. Shea, MD
> IMCA 3295
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent using the mail.com mail app
>
> On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:
>
>> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
>> clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
>> preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of
>> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
>> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
>> trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
>> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to
>> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
>>
>> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several
>> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was
>> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
>>
>> Happy Collecting,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
>>> Hello Dear List Members,
>>>
>>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
>>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>>>   From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
>>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
>>> or is it really so?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>>>
>>> Andrey,
>>> IMCA#6240
>>>
>>>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

There is a big difference between a 55 Ford from the dry Southwest and a 
55 Chevy from the salt-treated roads of the East coast.  My all-time 
favorite car is an aluminum 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 SC.  The only issue is 
electrolysis between steel in contact with aluminum parts which can be 
solved with stainless steel fasteners.


In all seriousness, it is good to stand behind what you sell.  Perhaps a 
 lifetime warranty against rust is order like chemical Rhino linings on 
a pick up truck bed.


Adam




On 12/4/2017 6:29 PM, Rob Wesel wrote:
And when the proper steps are taken to restore and preserve that 55 
Ford, it becomes a prized collectors item.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sc=1&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sop=3 



I stand by my product

Rob


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From: "Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to 
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates 
that Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several 
reports today of rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged 
crystals and popping noises coming from specimens. Maybe it should be 
upgraded from ruster to serious ruster.


Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment 
other than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper 
high-grade polishing and low humidity storage/display.


I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam




On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and 
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working 
great. :-D


If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who 
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.


Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. 
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. 
That distinction needs to be made.


Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







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On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:


My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut 
pieces of

any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, 
exposure to

direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are 
several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen 
was

around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam

On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Hello,
 
I believe it depends on the pieces and where they were found. I understand that 
some were found on salt-flats. 
I have a couple that I bought in June from Mike Farmer. One was cut in two 
halves, no special treatment, no varnish or lacquer. My customers are not 
reporting any problems. They are holding up just fine. Much better than 
Admire!!  
 

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com

 
 
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To: Andrey <anjer1...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Dec 4, 2017 7:41 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

Hi all,

There seems to be some very stable specimens and also some that will
crumble in your hands. It all depends on where it sat for the last
1000 years.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> Hello Dear List Members,
>
> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite owners,
> dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, similar
> to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity or is it
> really so?
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>
> Andrey,
> IMCA#6240
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list]

I tried to tell people that. But some people want cheap. The rotten small ones 
from under the salt lake are a bit of a problem. Luckily 6 trips to Kenya 
before anyone every knew it existed allowed my team to acquire metric tons of 
the flawless surface material covered in fusion crust. 
Michael Farmer

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> There seems to be some very stable specimens and also some that will
> crumble in your hands. It all depends on where it sat for the last
> 1000 years.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list
>  wrote:
>> Hello Dear List Members,
>> 
>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite owners,
>> dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, similar
>> to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity or is it
>> really so?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>> 
>> Andrey,
>> IMCA#6240
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list]

Oops, Chevy

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sc=1&_sop=3&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_osacat=0&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.X1955+chevy.TRS0&_nkw=1955+chevy&_sacat=0

Rob
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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to this 
Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that 
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today 
of rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping 
noises coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to 
serious ruster.


Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other 
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade 
polishing and low humidity storage/display.


I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam




On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and 
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. 
:-D


If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who 
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.


Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. 
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. 
That distinction needs to be made.


Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:


My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam

On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list]

And when the proper steps are taken to restore and preserve that 55 Ford, it 
becomes a prized collectors item.


https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sc=1&_sticky=1&_trkparms=65%253A16%257C66%253A4%257C39%253A1&_ipg=200&_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=1955+ford_PrefLoc=2&_sop=3

I stand by my product

Rob


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Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 5:58 PM
To: "metlist" <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to this 
Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that 
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports today 
of rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and popping 
noises coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from ruster to 
serious ruster.


Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other 
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade 
polishing and low humidity storage/display.


I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam




On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:
I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and 
don't see a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great. 
:-D


If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who 
actually has experience working with the meteorite in question.


Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. 
Expertly prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. 
That distinction needs to be made.


Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:


My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam

On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

The fact that dealers are applying sealants and anti-rust coatings to 
this Pallasite, like an old 55 Chevy from the East Coast, indicates that 
Sericho (Habaswein) is indeed a ruster.  I received several reports 
today of rusticles, green goo, chemical smells, dislodged crystals and 
popping noises coming from specimens. Maybe it should be upgraded from 
ruster to serious ruster.


Stable Pallasites like Esquel do not require any special treatment other 
than avoiding chlorinated water during preparation, proper high-grade 
polishing and low humidity storage/display.


I avoid rusters at all costs,

Adam




On 12/4/2017 10:40 AM, Bigjohn Shea wrote:

I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and don't see 
a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great.  :-D

If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who actually has 
experience working with the meteorite in question.

Additionally,
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. Expertly 
prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That distinction 
needs to be made.

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







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On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:


My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.

A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.

Happy Collecting,

Adam

On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability,
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity
or is it really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

Only time will tell if Sericho is a serious ruster or not.  The 
fortunate thing is that there is a massive amount available (several 
metric tons) so we can check back on it a few years from now and see how 
it stands the test of time.  A few months is not enough time to make 
determinations on its stability.


I have prepared over 60,000 meteorite specimens so I feel qualified to 
comment on preparation.


I am only trying to save collectors from a lot of grief.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Bigjohn Shea via Meteorite-list]

I got my sealed full slice of Habaswein from Rob many months ago and don't see 
a lick of rusting on it. Sealant appears to be working great.  :-D

If I were in the market for a specimen, I'd listen to the guy who actually has 
experience working with the meteorite in question.

Additionally, 
Large multi-kg specimens of Habaswein do sell in the 0.5$/g range. Expertly 
prepared slices do not. They sell for 8-10 times that price. That distinction 
needs to be made.

Cheers,
John A. Shea, MD
IMCA 3295







Sent using the mail.com mail app

On 12/4/17 at 11:14 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list wrote:

> My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or 
> clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its 
> preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of 
> any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not 
> only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by 
> trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low 
> humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to 
> direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
> 
> A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several 
> metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was 
> around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
> 
> Happy Collecting,
> 
> Adam
> 
> On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
> > Hello Dear List Members,
> > 
> > Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite 
> > owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
> >  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, 
> > similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity 
> > or is it really so?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for your answers,
> > 
> > Andrey,
> > IMCA#6240
> > 
> > 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Anne Black via Meteorite-list]

Hello, 

I believe it depends on the pieces and where they were found. I understand that 
some were found on salt-flats. 

I have a couple that I bought in June from Mike Farmer. One was cut in two 
halves, no special treatment, no varnish or lacquer. My customers are not 
reporting any problems. They are holding up just fine. Much better than 
Admire!!  

Anne M. Black
IMPACTIKA.com


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From: Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: Andrey <anjer1...@gmail.com>
Cc: Meteorite Mailing List <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 4, 2017 7:41 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

Hi all,

There seems to be some very stable specimens and also some that will
crumble in your hands. It all depends on where it sat for the last
1000 years.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
> Hello Dear List Members,
>
> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite owners,
> dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, similar
> to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity or is it
> really so?
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>
> Andrey,
> IMCA#6240
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

I have extensive experience with Pallasites having collected them since 
the 1990s . My all-time favorite is Esquel.  The Esquel had a clear coat 
finish applied to it and I saw one small rust spot appear.  I removed 
the coating and polished it properly and it has been trouble-free ever 
since.  Of course I live in the Mohave desert so humidity is not a problem.


The best advice I can give to a collector is to avoid rusters 
altogether.  I learned the hard way and have lost thousands on 
improperly prepared Pallasites or specimens prone to rust. I pulled one 
example out of my safe several years ago and was dismayed to see that it 
had disintegrated. The only thing holding it together was the clear coat 
shell that prevented the crystals from popping out. The slice was 
actually flexible since the metal was all but gone.  The clear coat held 
it together long enough for me to throw it in a trashcan.


A good specimen should not need any coatings or treatment in my opinion.

Adam


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Rob Wesel via Meteorite-list]

Not true


I have been selling Sericho since July. The first pieces were expertly prepared 
by one of the best in the industry and rusted. I switched cutters to one who 
uses chemical cleaning, galvanic cleaning, high polish and etch, and top 
quality sealant. Since then there has been one rusted endcut (of hundreds) and 
it had been wrapped in bubble wrap for two months while lost in the mail in 
uncertain conditions. I Have handled hundreds of pounds and I say the exact 
opposite. Buy quality prepared sealed specimens and you'll be fine.

Not sure what Adam's experience is with this Pallasite but mine is as extensive 
as possible in it's short cut life. Hundreds of pieces, 2 with rust. Mike 
Farmer has a lot of experience with this sliced as well.

On December 4, 2017 9:14:43 AM PST, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
 wrote:
>My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or 
>clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its 
>preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces
>of 
>any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not 
>only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by 
>trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low 
>humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure
>to 
>direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.
>
>A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are
>several 
>metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen
>was 
>around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.
>
>Happy Collecting,
>
>Adam
>
>On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:
>> Hello Dear List Members,
>> 
>> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite 
>> owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>>  From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, 
>> similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just
>fortuity 
>> or is it really so?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>> 
>> Andrey,
>> IMCA#6240
>> 
>> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list]

My advice is to stay away from any sliced pieces with a lacquer or 
clear-coat surface.  It is sign that shortcuts were taken in its 
preparation.  Proper polishing reduces the surface area on cut pieces of 
any meteorite aiding in the prevention of "lawrencite disease."  Not 
only that, these coatings will accelerate the deterioration process by 
trapping moisture.  It is important to store this material in low 
humidity environments with plenty of air circulation.  Also, exposure to 
direct sunlight will cause the crystals to darken with time.


A lot of collectors are in the wait and see mode since there are several 
metric tons of this material available. The lowest price I have seen was 
around 46 cents a gram for a recently sold piece on eBay.


Happy Collecting,

Adam

On 12/2/2017 5:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite 
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
 From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, 
similar to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity 
or is it really so?


Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240


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Re: [meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Ruben Garcia via Meteorite-list]

Hi all,

There seems to be some very stable specimens and also some that will
crumble in your hands. It all depends on where it sat for the last
1000 years.

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:14 AM, Andrey via Meteorite-list
 wrote:
> Hello Dear List Members,
>
> Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite owners,
> dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
> From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, similar
> to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity or is it
> really so?
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers,
>
> Andrey,
> IMCA#6240
>
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[meteorite-list] Stability of Sericho (Habaswein)

[Andrey via Meteorite-list]

Hello Dear List Members,

Just a small question to new Sericho (was Habaswein) Kenya pallasite
owners, dealers, cutters: how stable is it?
>From my own experience I noticed its extreme degree of instability, similar
to Admire or even more... Is this unlucky piece, just fortuity or is it
really so?

Thanks in advance for your answers,

Andrey,
IMCA#6240
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