Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Hi Mike and all, Yes, I agree with you, but the fake-meteorite-boom started since 2010 and become worse and worse recently. Not only some cheaters selling fake meteorites, but also some reputable Chinese collectors use their purchased NWAs to claim they were found in Chinese desert or Gobi areas in order to attack more media attention and sell more money. Nowadays, in China, all kinds of fake-meteorite-events will have a profit chain on the backside, and single honest person can hardly beat with numerous profit chains. If you pointed out a mendacity, blames or even rumors will be flooded to you soonly on the internet. In this condition, most Chinese scientists and honest collectors choose to be quiet when faced with a fake-meteorite-event. Now, it became a trend, official medias will be likely to report fake-meteorite-events, as those fake events normally will use the exaggerative advocation and will attrack more click-rates for the medias, such as someone possess a tons weight meteorite (actually the stone is a slag) and have been authenticated by an expert from Beijing Plenatrium which worth of 4 times price of the equal weight gold... Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Dear Bryan and list members, taking into account what you said, Bryan, I'm curious to see whether the alleged fall in Yuncheng, Shanxi on June 15 (mentioned earlier on this list) will be officially confirmed or will turn out to be a 'fake-meteorite-event' or 'purchased-NWA-becomes-fresh-fall-incident' as well. http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CNtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.xinhuanet.com%2Ftech%2F2013-07%2F18%2Fc_125026612.htm TV report (CCTV, 19 July) : http://video.chinanews.com/flv/2012/130719lxy17.mp4 Regards Martin Von: Bofang Li meteoritegar...@gmail.com An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite! Datum: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 10:58:43 +0200 Hi Mike and all, Yes, I agree with you, but the fake-meteorite-boom started since 2010 and become worse and worse recently. Not only some cheaters selling fake meteorites, but also some reputable Chinese collectors use their purchased NWAs to claim they were found in Chinese desert or Gobi areas in order to attack more media attention and sell more money. Nowadays, in China, all kinds of fake-meteorite-events will have a profit chain on the backside, and single honest person can hardly beat with numerous profit chains. If you pointed out a mendacity, blames or even rumors will be flooded to you soonly on the internet. In this condition, most Chinese scientists and honest collectors choose to be quiet when faced with a fake-meteorite-event. Now, it became a trend, official medias will be likely to report fake-meteorite-events, as those fake events normally will use the exaggerative advocation and will attrack more click-rates for the medias, such as someone possess a tons weight meteorite (actually the stone is a slag) and have been authenticated by an expert from Beijing Plenatrium which worth of 4 times price of the equal weight gold... Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Postfach fast voll? Jetzt kostenlos E-Mail Adresse @t-online.de sichern und endlich Platz für tausende Mails haben. http://www.t-online.de/email-kostenlos __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Hi Martin and all, Personally, I think the fall happened on June 15, Yuncheng city, Shanxi Province should be a real one. My reasons are as the following: 1, the name of the witness (finder), the name of the village (including district name, city name) were all enlightened to the public. In addition, the witness narrated to the media the process from roaring noise until they saw something hit the corn field and dug it out; 2, From the photos, the meteorite is a very fresh one, with some earth scratches on the surface. Generally, it is looked like a fresh fall, and they also dug the small earth crater out and brought the crater back to the planetarium together with the meteorite; 3, the fall happened on June 15, but the first news appeared about a month later, and that period is quite usual. From my personal experience, meteorite falls happened in China will at least take 3 days period from the falling time until the news appeared on the internet. The larger the falling effect, the faster the news appear. For example, 2012 Xining fall took 3 days to be reported on the news, which is quite fast, as it is a meteorite shower; 2008 Zunhua fall took 4 days to be reported on the news, as it was crashed into a house; 2010 Huaxi fall never appeared on the news, as it was fallen in a small yard of a farmer's and only affected one family. On the other hand, the news of Xinjiang crater this time appeared on the internet news within 24 hours after the so called fallen (or explosion), and that time period is quite unbelievable for a small vallige located in the west-most border of the country. Besides, the photo of the crater also appeared together with the news on the internet within 24 hours, but it looked too old to be a fresh crashed crater. Regards! Bryan MetSoc member IMCA #1371 http://www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
Hi Listees, Today I got the info from Dr. Zhao Xuchao (PhD from IGGCAS, MetSoc member) that the stone fragments collected near the Xinjiang crater (formly called fallen on July 31th), have confirmed not the meteorite by Professor Lin Yangting (IGGCAS, member of the Nomenclature Committee). The tested samples at IGGCAS are provided by an amateur meteorite enthusiast named Rex who claimed had found CO Carbonaceous Chondrite in this crater several days earlier on a videos, but actually the samples are burnt clay or limestone with dark crust. News reports regarding this event several days earlier also commented that Zhang Baolin from Beijing Planetarium claimed he got a donation from a local collector which is an achondrite meteorite, and the truth is Zhang Baolin got a HED achondrite slice from a collector who is in Urumuqi (over a thousand kilo-meters from the crater), and the HED slice from the news picture looks like a NWA. Now, we can say, as some of our listees had pointed out earlier, the crater is not caused by a crashed meteorite. Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stone fragment from XinJiang Crater is officially confirmed not a meteorite!
It was obvious from the moment I saw it. Like fake lions in the zoos, fake artifacts in the museums, now China is experiencing fake meteorite boom. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2013, at 6:00 AM, Bofang Li meteoritegar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Listees, Today I got the info from Dr. Zhao Xuchao (PhD from IGGCAS, MetSoc member) that the stone fragments collected near the Xinjiang crater (formly called fallen on July 31th), have confirmed not the meteorite by Professor Lin Yangting (IGGCAS, member of the Nomenclature Committee). The tested samples at IGGCAS are provided by an amateur meteorite enthusiast named Rex who claimed had found CO Carbonaceous Chondrite in this crater several days earlier on a videos, but actually the samples are burnt clay or limestone with dark crust. News reports regarding this event several days earlier also commented that Zhang Baolin from Beijing Planetarium claimed he got a donation from a local collector which is an achondrite meteorite, and the truth is Zhang Baolin got a HED achondrite slice from a collector who is in Urumuqi (over a thousand kilo-meters from the crater), and the HED slice from the news picture looks like a NWA. Now, we can say, as some of our listees had pointed out earlier, the crater is not caused by a crashed meteorite. Regards! Bryan --- MetSoc member IMCA #1371 www.meteoritegarden.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
