Re: [meteorite-list] Texas State Research Sheds New Light on Panspermia

2006-02-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb

Hi, All,


survivors he found--a bacteria called Microbispora. Ironically,
Microbispora wasn't one of the three species McLean expected to find...
McLean determined that it had contaminated the experiment prior to 
launch...


   There's a beautiful demonstration of the way Life, the Universe, and 
Everything (equals 42) works! The shuttle was intelligently designed. The 
experiment was intelligently designed (to make a pun on that silly notion). 
Everything was carefully planned. What happened?
   An Opportunist was the winner, some little bug too dumb to die. 
Microbispora didn't plan to take a trip to outer space and return to the 
Earth, but in the end he fared better than the much more capable lifeform 
that accompanied him. To those who say Evolution can't work (or Life can't 
arise) through the workings of chance, take a look at Microbispora's 
vacation trip.
   So, they're sitting in a Texas parking lot, and one Microbispora turns 
to the Microbispora next to him, and says, Well, that wasn't so bad, was 
it?

   I dunno. We were awfully lucky.
   Life favors the Opportunist (Exhibit One: Bill Gates)
   Loren Eisley wrote a fine essay on the primordial fish who, when his 
pond or puddle dries up, stakes everything on a wild leap in the hope of 
landing in a better pond or puddle. Many die. Enough land in or near a new 
pond or puddle and survive that the impulse to make that hopeless suicidal 
(for a fish) leap is inherited.
   Those suicidal fish who struggle hardest to find new water, clawing at 
the mud with their fins to crawl, are most likely to survive. This favors 
strong footy fins. Before you know it, some of their children just get up 
and RUN to the nearest pond in a gill-searing dash to find breathable water.
   Well, you can see where this is going. Eventually, fish are getting out 
of the water to eat plants and hunt insects and dance by the light of the 
moon, no doubt to the dismay of their ancestors. Why, you could hardly call 
some of them fish anymore!
   All because of an Opportunist who was willing to gamble, senselessly, 
against the odds.
   I hope McLean takes these Opportunists back to the lab and gives them a 
good home. Make a little sign for their petrie dish that says, Bacterial 
Astronaut Retirement Home.



Sterling K. Webb

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http://talbot.mrp.txstate.edu/currents/fullstory.jsp?sid=689

Texas State research sheds new light on panspermia
By Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University-San Marcos
February 21, 2006

When the space shuttle Columbia broke apart during reentry Feb. 1, 2003,
more than 80 on-board science experiments were lost in the fiery descent.

Texas State University-San Marcos biologist Robert McLean, however, has
salvaged some unexpected science from the wreckage. A strain of
slow-growing bacteria survived the crash, a discovery which may have
significant implications for the concept of panspermia. The findings
will be published in the May 2006 issue of Icarus, the international
journal of solar system studies.

Panspermia is the idea that life--hitchhiking on rocks ejected from
meteorite impacts on one world--could travel through space and seed
other worlds with life under favorable conditions. Because the
conditions under which panspermia could function are so harsh, however,
there's been little direct testing of the hypothesis.

That might have been in the back of my mind when we recovered our
payload, McLean said. McLean, along with a team of Texas State
researchers, had placed an experiment package aboard the Columbia to
investigate the interactions of three different bacterial species in
microgravity. When the shuttle broke up over Texas, they assumed the
experiment lost--until it turned up, relatively intact, in the parking
lot of a Nacogdoches convenience store. My first thinking when we found
our payload was, 'Let's look for survivors.'

And survivors he found--a bacteria called Microbispora. Ironically,
Microbispora wasn't one of the three species McLean expected to find.
The slow-growing organism is normally found in the soil, and McLean
determined that it had contaminated the experiment prior to launch. With
the Icarus publication, McLean anticipates request for samples of this
rugged strain to come in from researchers around the world.

This organism appears to have survived an atmospheric passage, with the
heat and the force of impact, he said. That's only about a fifth of
the speed that something on a real meteorite would have to survive, but
it is at least five or six times faster than what's been tested before.

This is important for panspermia, because if something survives space
travel, it eventually has to get down to the Earth and survive

Re: [meteorite-list] Texas State Research Sheds New Light on Panspermia

2006-02-22 Thread Marc Fries
Howdy

   Was it luck, though?  Exhibit A from the article:

 Microbispora wasn't one of the three species McLean expected to find.
 The slow-growing organism is normally found in the soil, and McLean

   Note that this is a common soil microbe.  The fragment landed on the
ground.  That's where these guys live.  Let me offer an alternative
conversation for our hardy microbes:

   (Scene opens.  Two microbes are lying comfortably in a dirty, wet
parking lot.  Large fragment of spacecraft enters stage left, splatters
itself with goo, including the microbes.)
   Microbe 1 (to Microbe 2):  What the @[EMAIL PROTECTED] was that?!!

   Microbe 2: Dunno, but it shore is tasty!  Look at all this mud!

Cheers,
MDF

 Hi, All,

 survivors he found--a bacteria called Microbispora. Ironically,
 Microbispora wasn't one of the three species McLean expected to find...
 McLean determined that it had contaminated the experiment prior to
 launch...

 There's a beautiful demonstration of the way Life, the Universe, and
 Everything (equals 42) works! The shuttle was intelligently designed. The
 experiment was intelligently designed (to make a pun on that silly
 notion).
 Everything was carefully planned. What happened?
 An Opportunist was the winner, some little bug too dumb to die.
 Microbispora didn't plan to take a trip to outer space and return to the
 Earth, but in the end he fared better than the much more capable lifeform
 that accompanied him. To those who say Evolution can't work (or Life can't
 arise) through the workings of chance, take a look at Microbispora's
 vacation trip.
 So, they're sitting in a Texas parking lot, and one Microbispora turns
 to the Microbispora next to him, and says, Well, that wasn't so bad, was
 it?
 I dunno. We were awfully lucky.
 Life favors the Opportunist (Exhibit One: Bill Gates)
 Loren Eisley wrote a fine essay on the primordial fish who, when his
 pond or puddle dries up, stakes everything on a wild leap in the hope of
 landing in a better pond or puddle. Many die. Enough land in or near a new
 pond or puddle and survive that the impulse to make that hopeless suicidal
 (for a fish) leap is inherited.
 Those suicidal fish who struggle hardest to find new water, clawing at
 the mud with their fins to crawl, are most likely to survive. This favors
 strong footy fins. Before you know it, some of their children just get
 up
 and RUN to the nearest pond in a gill-searing dash to find breathable
 water.
 Well, you can see where this is going. Eventually, fish are getting
 out
 of the water to eat plants and hunt insects and dance by the light of the
 moon, no doubt to the dismay of their ancestors. Why, you could hardly
 call
 some of them fish anymore!
 All because of an Opportunist who was willing to gamble, senselessly,
 against the odds.
 I hope McLean takes these Opportunists back to the lab and gives them
 a
 good home. Make a little sign for their petrie dish that says, Bacterial
 Astronaut Retirement Home.


 Sterling K. Webb
 
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 From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Panspermia



 http://talbot.mrp.txstate.edu/currents/fullstory.jsp?sid=689

 Texas State research sheds new light on panspermia
 By Jayme Blaschke
 Texas State University-San Marcos
 February 21, 2006

 When the space shuttle Columbia broke apart during reentry Feb. 1, 2003,
 more than 80 on-board science experiments were lost in the fiery
 descent.

 Texas State University-San Marcos biologist Robert McLean, however, has
 salvaged some unexpected science from the wreckage. A strain of
 slow-growing bacteria survived the crash, a discovery which may have
 significant implications for the concept of panspermia. The findings
 will be published in the May 2006 issue of Icarus, the international
 journal of solar system studies.

 Panspermia is the idea that life--hitchhiking on rocks ejected from
 meteorite impacts on one world--could travel through space and seed
 other worlds with life under favorable conditions. Because the
 conditions under which panspermia could function are so harsh, however,
 there's been little direct testing of the hypothesis.

 That might have been in the back of my mind when we recovered our
 payload, McLean said. McLean, along with a team of Texas State
 researchers, had placed an experiment package aboard the Columbia to
 investigate the interactions of three different bacterial species in
 microgravity. When the shuttle broke up over Texas, they assumed the
 experiment lost--until it turned up, relatively intact, in the parking
 lot of a Nacogdoches convenience store. My first thinking when we found
 our payload was, 'Let's look for survivors.'

 And survivors he found--a bacteria called Microbispora

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Texas State Research Sheds New Light on Panspermia

2006-02-22 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:40:58 -0600, you wrote:

The shuttle was intelligently designed. 

That's debatable.
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[meteorite-list] Texas State Research Sheds New Light on Panspermia

2006-02-21 Thread Ron Baalke

http://talbot.mrp.txstate.edu/currents/fullstory.jsp?sid=689  

Texas State research sheds new light on panspermia
By Jayme Blaschke
Texas State University-San Marcos
February 21, 2006

When the space shuttle Columbia broke apart during reentry Feb. 1, 2003,
more than 80 on-board science experiments were lost in the fiery descent.

Texas State University-San Marcos biologist Robert McLean, however, has
salvaged some unexpected science from the wreckage. A strain of
slow-growing bacteria survived the crash, a discovery which may have
significant implications for the concept of panspermia. The findings
will be published in the May 2006 issue of Icarus, the international 
journal of solar system studies.

Panspermia is the idea that life--hitchhiking on rocks ejected from
meteorite impacts on one world--could travel through space and seed
other worlds with life under favorable conditions. Because the
conditions under which panspermia could function are so harsh, however,
there's been little direct testing of the hypothesis.

That might have been in the back of my mind when we recovered our
payload, McLean said. McLean, along with a team of Texas State
researchers, had placed an experiment package aboard the Columbia to
investigate the interactions of three different bacterial species in
microgravity. When the shuttle broke up over Texas, they assumed the
experiment lost--until it turned up, relatively intact, in the parking
lot of a Nacogdoches convenience store. My first thinking when we found
our payload was, 'Let's look for survivors.'

And survivors he found--a bacteria called Microbispora. Ironically,
Microbispora wasn't one of the three species McLean expected to find.
The slow-growing organism is normally found in the soil, and McLean
determined that it had contaminated the experiment prior to launch. With
the Icarus publication, McLean anticipates request for samples of this
rugged strain to come in from researchers around the world.

This organism appears to have survived an atmospheric passage, with the
heat and the force of impact, he said. That's only about a fifth of
the speed that something on a real meteorite would have to survive, but
it is at least five or six times faster than what's been tested before.

This is important for panspermia, because if something survives space
travel, it eventually has to get down to the Earth and survive passage
through the atmosphere and impact. This doesn't prove anything--it just
contributes evidence to the plausibility of panspermia. Realistically,
that's all it can do, McLean said. Out of respect for the seven people
who gave their lives for this research, I feel it's very important these
results don't get lost.

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