Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Tom wrote: Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not been so designated. The definition requires that more than 95% of a meteorite has been replaced by secondary phases since its fall. The meteorite Mills comes to mind as a possibility, but maybe its not quite there yet. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hi David, What about irons stony/irons etc? How do they fall into the new category? There are quite a few shales in collections and I'm curious if they would be considered 'relict'. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: David Weir To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Tom wrote: Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not been so designated. The definition requires that more than 95% of a meteorite has been replaced by secondary phases since its fall. The meteorite Mills comes to mind as a possibility, but maybe its not quite there yet. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
They certainly should be considered relict meteorites if there is evidence that they were once meteorites, although a hunk of Canyon Diablo iron-shale would not be deserving of a separate name. jeff At 09:25 AM 1/6/2007, Jeff Kuyken wrote: Hi David, What about irons stony/irons etc? How do they fall into the new category? There are quite a few shales in collections and I'm curious if they would be considered 'relict'. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: David Weir To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Tom wrote: Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not been so designated. The definition requires that more than 95% of a meteorite has been replaced by secondary phases since its fall. The meteorite Mills comes to mind as a possibility, but maybe its not quite there yet. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Which meteorite is considered the smoking Gun meteorite that may have killed the dinosaurs? I know that some has been found which is mostly shale. Can't remember the name though and google did not help. US find. Cheers, tett - Original Message - From: Jeff Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 They certainly should be considered relict meteorites if there is evidence that they were once meteorites, although a hunk of Canyon Diablo iron-shale would not be deserving of a separate name. jeff At 09:25 AM 1/6/2007, Jeff Kuyken wrote: Hi David, What about irons stony/irons etc? How do they fall into the new category? There are quite a few shales in collections and I'm curious if they would be considered 'relict'. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: David Weir To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Tom wrote: Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not been so designated. The definition requires that more than 95% of a meteorite has been replaced by secondary phases since its fall. The meteorite Mills comes to mind as a possibility, but maybe its not quite there yet. David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Dr. Jeffrey N. Grossman phone: (703) 648-6184 US Geological Survey fax: (703) 648-6383 954 National Center Reston, VA 20192, USA __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Tom wrote: Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Since the new category of relict (or fossil) meteorites was adopted by the Nomenclature Committee only this past October, I would imagine there are likely other relict meteorites in our collections which have not been so designated. The definition requires that more than 95% of a meteorite has been replaced by secondary phases since its fall. The meteorite Mills comes to mind as a possibility, but maybe its not quite there yet. what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from solid limestone 100ft deep or so? _ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball. Elton --- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from solid limestone 100ft deep or so? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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How long does it take to be considered paleo? All the means is old. Please shed some light on this for me... Matt Morgan Mr EMan wrote: The Sardis Stone in Georgia is also a paleo meteorite well Paleo find I believe there is a smidgen of iron within the 12-20ft(?) diameter shale ball. Elton --- stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about lake murray? wasnt that dug out from solid limestone 100ft deep or so? __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:47:26 -0700, you wrote: How long does it take to be considered paleo? All the means is old. Please shed some light on this for me... Yeah, no kidding. I have a bunch of stuff that I got in a cheap lot on Ebay (not from any of the list members, I think) that sure looks like it should be concidered paleo to me. (For all I know, it might be paired with some of the material being discussed here). For me, though, the term I've been using for it isn't paleometeorite, but crap. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David. This is a very good example of the old saying one picture is worth a thousand words. Best, John Gwilliam At 02:14 PM 1/4/2007, David Weir wrote: Hello, Stan mentioned a better photo of the transition between the brown and blue components of NWA 2965 than that on my webpage. He sent me the following excellent picture some time ago, I believe from NAU originally, that best illustrates this transition: http://meteoritestudies.com/N2965blu.jpg David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Dear Greg and List, Please disregard my previous post. Greg explains now why NWA2828 is Very Rare. Thank you Greg for clearing up the issue. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dirk and List, Ah, I see I didn't make the change to these older unsold lots when I re-loaded them earlier this morning. If you look at one of the last paragraphs, I had made this change ready for the start of next week's auctions: Oxygen isotope results were obtained at the Carnegie Institution in Washington D.C. Further studies are underway on NWA 2828 including bulk rock chemical analysis at the University of Cologne, and attempted measurement of terrestrial age using carbon isotopes at the University of Arizona. The Total Known Weight (TKW) for NWA 2828 is officially recorded as 34,186 grams consisting of many stones. With pairings, the combined weight is in access of 100kg. I was sent a direct link to the abstract which mentions the pairing numbers and but it does not seem to work as a link because of some difficulty with the hosting site. We went round and round last month trying to make it work, but had to settle without the link. I am sure a quick Google search for NWA 2828 will result in finding the abstract which is the same as I posted to the list earlier. I will have to go back to the eBay auctions and make the changes when I get done with some other duties here. I would not agree with your statement that there is ...another 1000kgs... of this material. When this was first thought (and classified) to be an aubrite, I was in Morocco no less than every 30 days buying up all of the blue or fresher material (NWA 2828 at the time). Even with the realization and work of Drs Tony Irving and Ted Bunch, among others, the more weathered material combined with the fresher blue material did not amount to that much. I saw first hand what was available, what I bought and/or left behind (none of the blue that I saw). Anyway, we could ramble on for days (again), but I think this horse has been beaten, rode hard and sent out for collectors to consider. Happy Trails! Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David. This is a very good example of the old saying one picture is worth a thousand words. Best, John Gwilliam At 02:14 PM 1/4/2007, David Weir wrote: Hello, Stan mentioned a better photo of the transition between the brown and blue components of NWA 2965 than that on my webpage. He sent me the following excellent picture some time ago, I believe from NAU originally, that best illustrates this transition: http://meteoritestudies.com/N2965blu.jpg David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. Stan, don't break that forklift moving the goodies around :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David. This is a very good example of the old saying one picture is worth a thousand words. Best, John Gwilliam At 02:14 PM 1/4/2007, David Weir wrote: Hello, Stan mentioned a better photo of the transition between the brown and blue components of NWA 2965 than that on my webpage. He sent me the following excellent picture some time ago, I believe from NAU originally, that best illustrates this transition: http://meteoritestudies.com/N2965blu.jpg David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
So guyz if You have hundreds of tons ;-P of this material, then anyone found a specimen that was originaly on the surface of this meteorite ? Or this meteorite was displaced through thousand of years inside of sand ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. after reviewing my correspondance with Dr. Bunch it seems we were both wrong in terms of wat material is 'fresher' - i thought you had it backwards but what it seems the official opinion is - is that the material that is porous with black 'scale' on the outside it the more weathered - this can occur in both the brown AND the blue - I have seen it more in the blue than I have the brown in terms of number of pieces - but the feature is probably equally distributed in terms of weight of material. _ Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live Messenger! Get it now http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Dear Greg and List, Some of the nicest blue material that I have seen, in a photo, on eBay, is being sold by Michael Cottingham. Since he uses the NWA2828 number, I would guess that he has some material from you? Very beautiful. Michael is very good at taking photographs. I did not see all of Greg`s offerings because the eBay search page photos did not load. Greg has revised his listing information and has a more accurate TKW100; thank you Greg for correcting your mistake. Greg has demonstrated how to be a role model for dealers; great job. Best to All, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. Stan, don't break that forklift moving the goodies around :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David. This is a very good example of the old saying one picture is worth a thousand words. Best, John Gwilliam At 02:14 PM 1/4/2007, David Weir wrote: Hello, Stan mentioned a better photo of the transition between the brown and blue components of NWA 2965 than that on my webpage. He sent me the following excellent picture some time ago, I believe from NAU originally, that best illustrates this transition: http://meteoritestudies.com/N2965blu.jpg David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hi Dirk and List, Thank you for the very nice compliments, and for initially pointing out my description oversight on my NWA 2828 eBay re-loads of today. Yes, the NWA 2828 material Michael Cottingham is offering is from material he obtained from me. The weight he has is accounted for from the TKW listed with NWA 2828. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear Greg and List, Some of the nicest blue material that I have seen, in a photo, on eBay, is being sold by Michael Cottingham. Since he uses the NWA2828 number, I would guess that he has some material from you? Very beautiful. Michael is very good at taking photographs. I did not see all of Greg`s offerings because the eBay search page photos did not load. Greg has revised his listing information and has a more accurate TKW100; thank you Greg for correcting your mistake. Greg has demonstrated how to be a role model for dealers; great job. Best to All, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. Stan, don't break that forklift moving the goodies around :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David. This is a very good example of the old saying one picture is worth a thousand words. Best, John Gwilliam At 02:14 PM 1/4/2007, David Weir wrote: Hello, Stan mentioned a better photo of the transition between the brown and blue components of NWA 2965 than that on my webpage. He sent me the following excellent picture some time ago, I believe from NAU originally, that best illustrates this transition: http://meteoritestudies.com/N2965blu.jpg David __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Dear Greg, Stan, and List, Thanks Greg and Stan! Both very professional guys. I would also like to thank Stan for his very hard work in getting the material to Dr.Ted Bunch. This meteorite deserves more study to provide us with weathering data and ELs/Aubrites as a whole. As a type this material NWA2828/NWA2965 is very rare and anyone having some or not yet having some should consider it. It is fairly priced and someday you will regret not buying now. Check Tucson! I think Greg will be there (I am guessing since Tucson is a major event) and some other dealers (perhaps Stan; If not Blaine Reed; Mike Farmer have the meteorite; check it out and come home with a real treasure that you won`t regret owning. The Hupes and Stan and others have brought us some great meteorites in the past year and years and I hope that they continue to. Best regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dirk and List, Thank you for the very nice compliments, and for initially pointing out my description oversight on my NWA 2828 eBay re-loads of today. Yes, the NWA 2828 material Michael Cottingham is offering is from material he obtained from me. The weight he has is accounted for from the TKW listed with NWA 2828. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear Greg and List, Some of the nicest blue material that I have seen, in a photo, on eBay, is being sold by Michael Cottingham. Since he uses the NWA2828 number, I would guess that he has some material from you? Very beautiful. Michael is very good at taking photographs. I did not see all of Greg`s offerings because the eBay search page photos did not load. Greg has revised his listing information and has a more accurate TKW100; thank you Greg for correcting your mistake. Greg has demonstrated how to be a role model for dealers; great job. Best to All, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. Stan, don't break that forklift moving the goodies around :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired meteorite on the market? Thank you for addressing this on the list. I am sure other metlist members would like to understand your reasoning also. Best Regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John and List, If you want to see many more fine examples, go to eBay and type NWA 2828. I loaded several slices and complete stones where you can see this occurrence and of the fresher material. I wasn't going to try and make this a sale ad but it is an ongoing thread of interest. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: JKGwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED]; stan . [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] EL6/7 meteorite loaded on eBay for one cent.4.779 kilograms. Thanks to Stan and David
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hi Dirk and List, I will be at the Tucson Show for just a few short days this year, from February 1st through the 4th. I will only be entering some material in Michael Blood's auction (one piece of NWA 2828 and 20 other great items). I will be bringing my new Martian meteorite, NWA 4468, well at least the 353 gram main mass for Show-n-Tell. You thought the 3-D video and slice photos were cool, wait until you see this in person. I brought a slice to Denver and showed a couple of people who can vouch at the beauty of this unusual Martian. I think Mike Farmer already said something to the effect. I hope to have the official classification next week when the most recent numbers are compiled. Hope to see old friends and meet those who I haven't met in person yet. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear Greg, Stan, and List, Thanks Greg and Stan! Both very professional guys. I would also like to thank Stan for his very hard work in getting the material to Dr.Ted Bunch. This meteorite deserves more study to provide us with weathering data and ELs/Aubrites as a whole. As a type this material NWA2828/NWA2965 is very rare and anyone having some or not yet having some should consider it. It is fairly priced and someday you will regret not buying now. Check Tucson! I think Greg will be there (I am guessing since Tucson is a major event) and some other dealers (perhaps Stan; If not Blaine Reed; Mike Farmer have the meteorite; check it out and come home with a real treasure that you won`t regret owning. The Hupes and Stan and others have brought us some great meteorites in the past year and years and I hope that they continue to. Best regards, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dirk and List, Thank you for the very nice compliments, and for initially pointing out my description oversight on my NWA 2828 eBay re-loads of today. Yes, the NWA 2828 material Michael Cottingham is offering is from material he obtained from me. The weight he has is accounted for from the TKW listed with NWA 2828. Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear Greg and List, Some of the nicest blue material that I have seen, in a photo, on eBay, is being sold by Michael Cottingham. Since he uses the NWA2828 number, I would guess that he has some material from you? Very beautiful. Michael is very good at taking photographs. I did not see all of Greg`s offerings because the eBay search page photos did not load. Greg has revised his listing information and has a more accurate TKW100; thank you Greg for correcting your mistake. Greg has demonstrated how to be a role model for dealers; great job. Best to All, Dirk...Tokyo --- Greg Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Dirk, Stan and List, As an after thought, what might we suppose is the ratio of fresh blue material to more weathered brown? Perhaps that should be a consideration when we talk about TKW in regards to NWA 2828 is primarily 'fresher blue' than NWA 2965's brown look... Of course that would bring up the,My meteorites are better than yours... BS that I am trying to avoid here. In fact, that is the furthest from what I am doing, to the dismay of Dirk, I think. Stan, don't break that forklift moving the goodies around :-) Best regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection NaturesVault (eBay) [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 - Original Message - From: drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 3:56 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828 Dear List, I forgot to ask why if NWA2828 is Very Rare then why is there another 1000Kg+ of paired material known. Thanks! Dirk Ross...Tokyo --- drtanuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Greg and List, Greg, if you are agreeing that this is a paired meteorite with NWA 2965 (prov) then why don`t you mention it in your eBay sales information; and yes the offically NomCom recorded TKW of NWA is ?25kgs, but with your eBay AD the buyer is lead to conclude that there isn`t another 1000kgs of paired
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Hey, it's about time some of the coolest stuff in the meteorite world is available to all! Isn't this the first fossil meteorite open to the collector market? Also, Greg, Stan, Mike and who ever knows. Some of the brown (presumably collected on the surface) SEEMS to have remnants of crust, over lipping etc. Is this possible, have you seen it, or am I just over examining until I see things? (Like Jesus in a grilled cheese sandwich) Tom Phillips __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Very Rare NWA2828
Some of the brown (presumably collected on the surface) SEEMS to have remnants of crust, over lipping etc. 99% of the black stuff ont he outside of the brown material is simply the oxidized metal veining that is seen int he matrix of this material. the material weathered preferentially allong the vetal veins and hence broke up allong the veins as well. this stone must have been KILLER looking when it was fresh, but imho it still looks pretty darned neat even today. _ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN Shopping Sales Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
