Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-08 Thread karmaka
Another chapter of this story...

A well-known Chinese amateur meteorite enthusiast ('Rex' / 雷克斯) believes he
has found a carbonaceous chondrite (if I got the machine-translated text 
correctly)

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=zh-CNtl=enjs=nprev=_thl=deie=UTF-8u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.syunshi.cn%2FforumDetail.asp%3FtApno%3D5124%26tR3no%3D13%26tR2no%3D1%26tR1no%3D4

Chinese original: 
http://www.syunshi.cn/forumDetail.asp?tApno=5124tR3no=13tR2no=1tR1no=4
 



Von: drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com
 An: Peter Davidson p.david...@nms.ac.uk, meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available-   
Real?
 Datum: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 14:41:14 +0200
 
Dr. Davidson,
   Thank you for your kind reply to the list concerning this event.
 
 My personal take is that the photo of the meteorite is real although it is 
unknown whether it is related to this reported event or not;. or perhaps 
something in the trash dump exploded?  The crater photo reminds me of the 
Latvia faked crater although this may be that of an explosive device since the 
military were photographed with the crater and the  crater appears to be 
not staged.. Another unfriendly feeling is the comment in the news reports 
about the fall of the regime in China related to meteorite falls.  This in the 
Chinese context of reporting smells like a faked story.
 
 Best Regards,
 Dirk Ross...Tokyo
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Peter Davidson p.david...@nms.ac.uk
 To: 'drtanuki' drtan...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List 
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 Cc: 
 Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03 PM
 Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available-   
Real?
 
 Hi Listees
 
 Here is the vote of the Scottish jury - not real. If a meteorite was reported 
to have fallen on the 31st July/1st August then the crater on the TV report 
is not related to any fall. It looks like a hole that was dug several weeks ago 
and left. The rocks, soil and the litter are just not freshly exposed. Sorry, I 
know it has almost become axiomatic to call everything coming out of China a 
fake, but this must surely be!
 
 Hoots mon!
 
 Peter Davidson
 Curator of Minerals
 
 Natural Sciences Department
 National Museums Collection Centre
 242 West Granton Road
 Edinburgh
 EH5 1JA
 TEL: 0131 247 4283
 E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk
 
 
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 Subject: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?
 
 List,
 I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
 Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?
 
 
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html
 
 
 I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you.
 
 Dirk RossTokyo
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[meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread drtanuki
List,
I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html


I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you.

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Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread Peter Davidson
Hi Listees

Here is the vote of the Scottish jury - not real. If a meteorite was reported 
to have fallen on the 31st July/1st August then the crater on the TV report 
is not related to any fall. It looks like a hole that was dug several weeks ago 
and left. The rocks, soil and the litter are just not freshly exposed. Sorry, I 
know it has almost become axiomatic to call everything coming out of China a 
fake, but this must surely be!

Hoots mon!

Peter Davidson
Curator of Minerals

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk


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Sent: 02 August 2013 12:23
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Subject: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

List,
I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html


I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you.

Dirk RossTokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread drtanuki
Dr. Davidson,
  Thank you for your kind reply to the list concerning this event.

My personal take is that the photo of the meteorite is real although it is 
unknown whether it is related to this reported event or not;. or perhaps 
something in the trash dump exploded?  The crater photo reminds me of the 
Latvia faked crater although this may be that of an explosive device since the 
military were photographed with the crater and the  crater appears to be 
not staged.. Another unfriendly feeling is the comment in the news reports 
about the fall of the regime in China related to meteorite falls.  This in the 
Chinese context of reporting smells like a faked story.

Best Regards,
Dirk Ross...Tokyo


- Original Message -
From: Peter Davidson p.david...@nms.ac.uk
To: 'drtanuki' drtan...@yahoo.com; Meteorite List 
(meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com) meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 9:03 PM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available-
Real?

Hi Listees

Here is the vote of the Scottish jury - not real. If a meteorite was reported 
to have fallen on the 31st July/1st August then the crater on the TV report 
is not related to any fall. It looks like a hole that was dug several weeks ago 
and left. The rocks, soil and the litter are just not freshly exposed. Sorry, I 
know it has almost become axiomatic to call everything coming out of China a 
fake, but this must surely be!

Hoots mon!

Peter Davidson
Curator of Minerals

Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk


-Original Message-
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[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of drtanuki
Sent: 02 August 2013 12:23
To: meteorite-list
Subject: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

List,
I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?

http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html


I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you.

Dirk RossTokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread Michael Farmer
Nothing at all looks real about it.
To make an2 meter crater it would need to be huge. No sign of anything, no 
fireball reports or sonic boom reports.
Michael Farmer 

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On Aug 2, 2013, at 4:23 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:

 List,
 I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
 Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?
 
 http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html
 
 
 I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you.
 
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[meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real? Fake

2013-08-02 Thread Shawn Alan
Peter and Listers


I would have to agree on that with you, fake as day. The dirt has to much dust 
and the last time I check, meteorites falls don't create trash. Or maybe its a 
trashy meteorite lol.

 
 
 
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Hi Listees 
Here is the vote of the Scottish jury - not real. If a meteorite was reported 
to have fallen on the 31st July/1st August then the crater on the TV report 
is not related to any fall. It looks like a hole that was dug several weeks ago 
and left. The rocks, soil and the litter are just not freshly exposed. Sorry, I 
know it has almost become axiomatic to call everything coming out of China a 
fake, but this must surely be!
Hoots mon! Peter Davidson
Curator of Minerals Natural Sciences Department
National Museums Collection Centre
242 West Granton Road
Edinburgh
EH5 1JA
TEL: 0131 247 4283
E-mail: p.david...@nms.ac.uk -Original Message-
From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com 
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Sent: 02 August 2013 12:23
To: meteorite-list
Subject: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real? 
List,
I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT? 
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html
 I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank you. Dirk 
RossTokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread Dick Lipke
Reminds me of a village dump with all the trash laying around it.
could be something buried just blew up.
Wasn't there a recent report of extremely high temperatures
in that area causing many deaths?   

 
Richard Lipke 



- Original Message -
 Nothing at all looks real about it.
 To make an2 meter crater it would need to be huge. No sign of
 anything, no fireball reports or sonic boom reports.
 Michael Farmer
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 2, 2013, at 4:23 AM, drtanuki drtan...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  List,
  I have just posted a TV report of the Xin Jiang meteorite crater.
  Xin Jiang Meteorite Crater Video Now Available- Real or NOT?
 
  http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/08/xinjiang-china-meteorite-fall-01aug2013.html
 
 
  I would like some online or offline comments on this event; thank
  you.
 
  Dirk RossTokyo
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Re: [meteorite-list] XinJiang Meteorite Crater Video Now, Available- Real?

2013-08-02 Thread Tom Randall
   That's one dirty looking crater IMHO. I call hoax or 
misunderstanding.


Regards!

Tom

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