Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Alfredo Petrov via Meteorite-list 
Well, we would have all died of starvation long ago if terrestrial rocks
didn't contain K and P.
 ;))

On 6 October 2017 at 20:30, Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list <
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:

> Hello!
> a man have send me some pictures of a dozen stones and asked me wich types
> of meteorites could be.
> I answered that for me those materials are terrestrial.
> But he tell me that for sure the stones are lunar meteorites :)
> He has send me this analysis for proving the lunar origin of the stones.
> I'm not able to understand this data, please someone could take a look and
> tell me if this material could be terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.
> No other analysis was done on the stones. I guess that without an oxigen
> isotopes abundance ratio is impossible to identify a lunar rock, isn't?
>
> Method LF200
>
> SiO247.45%
> Al2O3   19.42%
> Fe2O3   9.73%
> MgO 10.16%
> CaO 8.95%
> Na2O1.75%
> K2O 0.79%
> TiO20.29%
> P2O50.08%
> Cr2O3   0.01%
> Ba  110ppm
> Ni  121ppm
> Sc  7ppm
>
> I Have also a detailed list of trace elements.
>
> This man tell me that the presence of K2O and P2O5 confirm the
> extra-terrestrial origin of the rocks.
>
> Thanks a lot in advance!
>
> xx
> Francesco
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Mendy Ouzillou via Meteorite-list 
Francesco,

There are so many things that scream "terrestrial" about this "lunatic" rock. 
Almost, 47% glass(SiO2) and 20% of aluminum oxide!? This is likely man-made and 
my guess is that this is a byproduct of glass manufacturing. 

Mendy Ouzillou



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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

It is best to avoid this type of material altogether.   It appears to be 
another self-paired stone being offered up as a planetary piece.   Most 
collectors realize that without formal classification by a recognized 
laboratory and name assignment by the Meteoritical Society, the material 
is consider just a rock and not a meteorite.   In other words, it is 
worthless.  Many collectors have been fooled already by the influx of these 
stones and are asking for refunds after realizing, there is no secondary market 
for this material.

Adam



On 10/6/2017 4:30 AM, Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list wrote:
> Hello!
> a man have send me some pictures of a dozen stones and asked me wich 
> types of meteorites could be.
> I answered that for me those materials are terrestrial.
> But he tell me that for sure the stones are lunar meteorites :) He has 
> send me this analysis for proving the lunar origin of the stones.
> I'm not able to understand this data, please someone could take a look 
> and tell me if this material could be terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.
> No other analysis was done on the stones. I guess that without an 
> oxigen isotopes abundance ratio is impossible to identify a lunar rock, isn't?
> 
> Method LF200
> 
> SiO2  47.45%
> Al2O3 19.42%
> Fe2O3 9.73%
> MgO   10.16%
> CaO   8.95%
> Na2O  1.75%
> K2O   0.79%
> TiO2  0.29%
> P2O5  0.08%
> Cr2O3 0.01%
> Ba110ppm
> Ni121ppm
> Sc7ppm
> 
> I Have also a detailed list of trace elements.
> 
> This man tell me that the presence of K2O and P2O5 confirm the 
> extra-terrestrial origin of the rocks.
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> 
> xx
> Francesco
> 
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list 
It is best to avoid this type of material altogether.   It appears to be 
another self-paired stone being offered up as a planetary piece.   Most 
collectors realize that without formal classification by a recognized 
laboratory and name assignment by the Meteoritical Society, the material 
is consider just a rock and not a meteorite.   In other words, it is 
worthless.  Many collectors have been fooled already by the influx of 
these stones and are asking for refunds after realizing, there is no 
secondary market for this material.


Adam



On 10/6/2017 4:30 AM, Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list wrote:

Hello!
a man have send me some pictures of a dozen stones and asked me wich types
of meteorites could be.
I answered that for me those materials are terrestrial.
But he tell me that for sure the stones are lunar meteorites :)
He has send me this analysis for proving the lunar origin of the stones.
I'm not able to understand this data, please someone could take a look and
tell me if this material could be terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.
No other analysis was done on the stones. I guess that without an oxigen
isotopes abundance ratio is impossible to identify a lunar rock, isn't?

Method LF200

SiO247.45%
Al2O3   19.42%
Fe2O3   9.73%
MgO 10.16%
CaO 8.95%
Na2O1.75%
K2O 0.79%
TiO20.29%
P2O50.08%
Cr2O3   0.01%
Ba  110ppm
Ni  121ppm
Sc  7ppm

I Have also a detailed list of trace elements.

This man tell me that the presence of K2O and P2O5 confirm the
extra-terrestrial origin of the rocks.

Thanks a lot in advance!

xx
Francesco




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Re: [meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Carl Esparza via Meteorite-list 
I don't see the Mn percent. That is needed to get an Fe/Mn ratio. 
Carl
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 Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list  
wrote: 
> Hello!
a man have send me some pictures of a dozen stones and asked me wich types
of meteorites could be.
I answered that for me those materials are terrestrial.
But he tell me that for sure the stones are lunar meteorites :)
He has send me this analysis for proving the lunar origin of the stones.
I'm not able to understand this data, please someone could take a look and
tell me if this material could be terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.
No other analysis was done on the stones. I guess that without an oxigen
isotopes abundance ratio is impossible to identify a lunar rock, isn't? 

Method LF200

SiO247.45%
Al2O3   19.42%
Fe2O3   9.73%
MgO 10.16%
CaO 8.95%
Na2O1.75%
K2O 0.79%
TiO20.29%
P2O50.08%
Cr2O3   0.01%
Ba  110ppm
Ni  121ppm
Sc  7ppm

I Have also a detailed list of trace elements.

This man tell me that the presence of K2O and P2O5 confirm the
extra-terrestrial origin of the rocks.

Thanks a lot in advance!

xx
Francesco




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[meteorite-list] help me in understand analysis

2017-10-06 Thread Francesco Moser via Meteorite-list 
Hello!
a man have send me some pictures of a dozen stones and asked me wich types
of meteorites could be.
I answered that for me those materials are terrestrial.
But he tell me that for sure the stones are lunar meteorites :)
He has send me this analysis for proving the lunar origin of the stones.
I'm not able to understand this data, please someone could take a look and
tell me if this material could be terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.
No other analysis was done on the stones. I guess that without an oxigen
isotopes abundance ratio is impossible to identify a lunar rock, isn't? 

Method LF200

SiO247.45%
Al2O3   19.42%
Fe2O3   9.73%
MgO 10.16%
CaO 8.95%
Na2O1.75%
K2O 0.79%
TiO20.29%
P2O50.08%
Cr2O3   0.01%
Ba  110ppm
Ni  121ppm
Sc  7ppm

I Have also a detailed list of trace elements.

This man tell me that the presence of K2O and P2O5 confirm the
extra-terrestrial origin of the rocks.

Thanks a lot in advance!

xx
Francesco




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