Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN

2007-02-25 Thread Jeffrey Shallit
Here's the article you requested:

New York Times, March 11 1897, p. 1

EXPLOSION OF A METEOR

---

One Man Rendered Unconscious and the Head of a Horse Crushed

Parkersburg, West Va., March 10. -

A meteor burst over the town of New Martinsville yesterday.  The noise
of the explosion resembled the shock of a heavy artillery salute, and
was heard for twenty miles.  The cylindrical shaped ball of fire was
forging along in a southwesterly direction when first discovered.  The
hissing sound of the fire could be heard for miles, and the smoke gave
the meteor the appearance of a burning balloon.

When the meteor exploded the pieces flew in all directions, like a
volcanic upheaval, and solid walls were pierced by the fragments.
David Leisure was knocked down by the force of the air caused by the
rapidity with which the body passed, before it broke.  The blow
rendered him unconscious.  One horse had its head crushed and nearly
torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in
the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf.

The coming of the meteor was heralded by a rumbling noise, followed in
an instant by the hissing sound, and immediately the ball of fire,
spitting and smoking, burst into full view, and before the people had
time to collect their senses, the explosion occurred.


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Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN

2007-02-25 Thread Pete Pete

One horse had its head crushed and nearly

torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in
the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf.


stone deaf.


Intentional pun?

Cheers,
Pete



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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 07:17:09 -0500 (EST)

Here's the article you requested:

New York Times, March 11 1897, p. 1

EXPLOSION OF A METEOR

---

One Man Rendered Unconscious and the Head of a Horse Crushed

Parkersburg, West Va., March 10. -

A meteor burst over the town of New Martinsville yesterday.  The noise
of the explosion resembled the shock of a heavy artillery salute, and
was heard for twenty miles.  The cylindrical shaped ball of fire was
forging along in a southwesterly direction when first discovered.  The
hissing sound of the fire could be heard for miles, and the smoke gave
the meteor the appearance of a burning balloon.

When the meteor exploded the pieces flew in all directions, like a
volcanic upheaval, and solid walls were pierced by the fragments.
David Leisure was knocked down by the force of the air caused by the
rapidity with which the body passed, before it broke.  The blow
rendered him unconscious.  One horse had its head crushed and nearly
torn from the trunk by a fragment of the meteor, and another horse in
the next stall was discovered to be stone deaf.

The coming of the meteor was heralded by a rumbling noise, followed in
an instant by the hissing sound, and immediately the ball of fire,
spitting and smoking, burst into full view, and before the people had
time to collect their senses, the explosion occurred.


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Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN

2007-02-25 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Sterling - 

Thanks much for the link.  The Rev. Dick's work was
probably the ultimate source for the face on mars
stuff we see today. Incorporated into American
spiritualist movements, Dick's nonsense lives on to
today.

My favorite hoax was a trans-Atlantic balloon crossing
fabricated by Edgar Allen Poe to avenge himself on an
editor who had stiffed him.

good hunting,
E.P. Grondine
Man and Impact in the Americas 

--- Sterling K. Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Mark is certainly correct about the hoaxing
 propensities
 of 19th century (and early 20th century) newspapers.
 The
 ultimate example is that is the Great Moon Hoax of
 1832:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moon_Hoax
 
 You will note that Mark's list is of very
 dramatic accounts.
 OK, the death of a wedding guest has a certain
 drama, but
 the death of a horse in West Virginia is not the
 stuff of a real
 blockbuster.
 
 To be sure, we need to be certain. Somebody has
 to go
 there, get the stone, and do all the scientific
 dirty work. BUT,
 that does not mean the obverse, that all unverified
 events are
 untrue, hoaxes, folk tales, urban legends, and the
 like. SOME
 are; others are not.
 
 When we get back to older historical records,
 they are most
 often just that: records, official, never made
 public, internal
 documents, private correspondence, and so forth.
 Gervase of 
 Canterbury's description of a dramatic Lunar impact
 event 
 witnessed on the evening of June 18, 1178, was
 recorded in 
 the day book of the monastery and not discovered
 for many
 centuries; it was not sent immediately to cable TV.
 
 [Currently that event is on the debunking
 calendar:
 http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news118.html
 but the debunker's arguments are themselves bunk,
 well,
 that's not the topic here.] 
 
 But, in Mark's wonderful collection of newspaper
 accounts 
 of real meteorites that actually fell, one will find
 lots of bizarre 
 details that sound fake. So, if REAL falls
 produce partially 
 unbelievable accounts, why should a reasonably sober
 account 
 be dismissed out of hand?
 
 
 Sterling K. Webb

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 From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more
 
 
 Michael Blood asked:
 
 However, I was wondering what the NAME of this
 meteorite is
 Zvezvan is not listed in Meteorites A to Z.
 
 Because newspaper reports are not always correct.
 
 I wouldn't add any of these to your list either
 Michael.
 
 http://www.meteoritearticles.com/meteorwrongsMT.html
 
 Clear Skies,
 Mark
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more AGAIN

2007-02-24 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi,

Mark is certainly correct about the hoaxing propensities
of 19th century (and early 20th century) newspapers. The
ultimate example is that is the Great Moon Hoax of 1832:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moon_Hoax

You will note that Mark's list is of very dramatic accounts.
OK, the death of a wedding guest has a certain drama, but
the death of a horse in West Virginia is not the stuff of a real
blockbuster.

To be sure, we need to be certain. Somebody has to go
there, get the stone, and do all the scientific dirty work. BUT,
that does not mean the obverse, that all unverified events are
untrue, hoaxes, folk tales, urban legends, and the like. SOME
are; others are not.

When we get back to older historical records, they are most
often just that: records, official, never made public, internal
documents, private correspondence, and so forth. Gervase of 
Canterbury's description of a dramatic Lunar impact event 
witnessed on the evening of June 18, 1178, was recorded in 
the day book of the monastery and not discovered for many
centuries; it was not sent immediately to cable TV.

[Currently that event is on the debunking calendar:
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news118.html
but the debunker's arguments are themselves bunk, well,
that's not the topic here.] 

But, in Mark's wonderful collection of newspaper accounts 
of real meteorites that actually fell, one will find lots of bizarre 
details that sound fake. So, if REAL falls produce partially 
unbelievable accounts, why should a reasonably sober account 
be dismissed out of hand?


Sterling K. Webb
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- Original Message - 
From: MARK BOSTICK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ill need more


Michael Blood asked:

However, I was wondering what the NAME of this meteorite is
Zvezvan is not listed in Meteorites A to Z.

Because newspaper reports are not always correct.

I wouldn't add any of these to your list either Michael.

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/meteorwrongsMT.html

Clear Skies,
Mark


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