Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find?
Considering that it is being publicly sold for less than 1/3 that price makes this article is bunk. Even Krasnojarsk hardly sells for $200 gram. Yup, this misinformation further hampers field recoveries. It is a spectacular meteorite, it is not $3 million dollars. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Nov 10, 2011, at 2:26 PM, Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Dick and List, Conception Junction is a spectacular pallasite find and everyone involved with the find should feel a well-deserved sense of accomplishment. But, I cringe every time I see an article like this. Worth $3.4 million dollars? Really? To whom? Something is worth what someone will pay for it. In the history of meteorites, how many specimens have sold for millions of dollars? To my knowledge - none. Carelessly throwing around cash numbers like this is irresponsible at best and damages the entire meteorite community by unrealistically raising expectations amongst lay people who are not knowledgeable about the meteorite market. Every article like this creates scammers intent on making a quick buck from slags, landowners wanting astronomical sums for common chondrites, and draws unwanted attention from legislative authorities who might feel tempted to interfere with meteorite market via taxation or regulation. I expected better from Space.com. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/10/11, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: - www.space.com/13578-missouri-farmer-rare-meteorite-conception-junction.html I recall someone saying it was only a common find!!! Richard Lipke __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Remember this common find?
- www.space.com/13578-missouri-farmer-rare-meteorite-conception-junction.html I recall someone saying it was only a common find!!! Richard Lipke __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find?
Hi Dick and List, Conception Junction is a spectacular pallasite find and everyone involved with the find should feel a well-deserved sense of accomplishment. But, I cringe every time I see an article like this. Worth $3.4 million dollars? Really? To whom? Something is worth what someone will pay for it. In the history of meteorites, how many specimens have sold for millions of dollars? To my knowledge - none. Carelessly throwing around cash numbers like this is irresponsible at best and damages the entire meteorite community by unrealistically raising expectations amongst lay people who are not knowledgeable about the meteorite market. Every article like this creates scammers intent on making a quick buck from slags, landowners wanting astronomical sums for common chondrites, and draws unwanted attention from legislative authorities who might feel tempted to interfere with meteorite market via taxation or regulation. I expected better from Space.com. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/10/11, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: - www.space.com/13578-missouri-farmer-rare-meteorite-conception-junction.html I recall someone saying it was only a common find!!! Richard Lipke __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find?
I expected better from Space.com. Why, on Heaven or Earth, would you do that? Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find? Hi Dick and List, Conception Junction is a spectacular pallasite find and everyone involved with the find should feel a well-deserved sense of accomplishment. But, I cringe every time I see an article like this. Worth $3.4 million dollars? Really? To whom? Something is worth what someone will pay for it. In the history of meteorites, how many specimens have sold for millions of dollars? To my knowledge - none. Carelessly throwing around cash numbers like this is irresponsible at best and damages the entire meteorite community by unrealistically raising expectations amongst lay people who are not knowledgeable about the meteorite market. Every article like this creates scammers intent on making a quick buck from slags, landowners wanting astronomical sums for common chondrites, and draws unwanted attention from legislative authorities who might feel tempted to interfere with meteorite market via taxation or regulation. I expected better from Space.com. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/10/11, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: - www.space.com/13578-missouri-farmer-rare-meteorite-conception-junction.html I recall someone saying it was only a common find!!! Richard Lipke __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find?
Hi Mike, Dick, List, Mike G, I cringe every time as well, and this was no exception. A few quick things here, as I'm still at the moment working with the writers of these articles to clear this epic mess up... First, neither Karl, Robert or myself knew anything about either of the recent articles (from WUSTL and Space.com) until they hit the internet. Dr. Korotev gave a very nice interview for the first article, some things were lost in translation beteen himself and the writer, quite innocently, then Space.com picked up the story and really blew it out of the water. No time for details beyond that now, other than to apologize for even an indirect association with these unintentional misrepresentations, which I'm sure we can all agree are not good for the meteorite arena whatsoever. Mike G, thank you as well for placing the criticism where it was due, which is seemingly rather uncommon these days... All the best, Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gilmer Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 4:26 PM To: Dick Lipke Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Remember this common find? Hi Dick and List, Conception Junction is a spectacular pallasite find and everyone involved with the find should feel a well-deserved sense of accomplishment. But, I cringe every time I see an article like this. Worth $3.4 million dollars? Really? To whom? Something is worth what someone will pay for it. In the history of meteorites, how many specimens have sold for millions of dollars? To my knowledge - none. Carelessly throwing around cash numbers like this is irresponsible at best and damages the entire meteorite community by unrealistically raising expectations amongst lay people who are not knowledgeable about the meteorite market. Every article like this creates scammers intent on making a quick buck from slags, landowners wanting astronomical sums for common chondrites, and draws unwanted attention from legislative authorities who might feel tempted to interfere with meteorite market via taxation or regulation. I expected better from Space.com. Best regards, MikeG -- - Galactic Stone Ironworks - Meteorites Amber (Michael Gilmer) Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://tinyurl.com/42h79my News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone - On 11/10/11, Dick Lipke richardli...@comcast.net wrote: - www.space.com/13578-missouri-farmer-rare-meteorite-conception-junction .html I recall someone saying it was only a common find!!! Richard Lipke __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] remember
Has it really been 3 years since PROUD TOM came on the scene?And has it also been only 3 years since that famous meteorite rock group,FARIES AND THE STRUCK ONES?I am sure you all know which ones I am specking off.Please let me if I am wrong!I would have to have a broken to my face.OH well,the good ol' days.I guess some never change. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! www.chicagometeorites.net. Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] remember
I guess some never change Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! So guessed HE, and spoke it out! Wise words - wise man! Btw: Good luck all you guys and gals in Tucson! Alex Berlin/Germany __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] remember the time ... was Final add on's to meteorite sale
I remember that time, it sounds like the year I've been subscribing on this list. Whenever I have had a question and asked the list I have got answers and help. I've learned a lot on this list, enough to still think it's a great place even though some members treat it as their personal blog. (No, I won't mention names) Topics that springs to my mind is, - Chondrule size distribution - how to determine shock level of a meteorite - Atmospheric gases trapped in Martian meteorites - New lunar meteorites - What happened in Oman - Fireballs over Australia / Europe / USA ... - Reports from the field (Franconia and other places) - Meteorite picture of the day - Old newsarticles ... and there's a bunch that I don't recall right now. Most sellers keeps the sale pitch down to a manageable level and all in all even if you take all whining about markets in ruins, my meteorite is /better/cheaper/paired/not the same/unique/ fighting and other off topic mails. This list rocks! ... sorry, that should be Spacerocks! :-) /Göran JKGwilliam wrote: Hello Dave and List, This Meteorite List has deteriorated to becoming a bulletin board for ebay sales and the like. Can anyone else remember a time when our list was more informative and educational or is it just my imagination? Best, John Gwilliam At 06:58 AM 5/24/2005, Dave Freeman mjwy wrote: Geeze Ssteve, What ever happened to listing ads a couple of times a week instead of every day and then numerous times on some days? Don't we have a separate email list site for all the for sale stuff that 90 percent of the list gets sick of? If not, please try to find it. Your repeated adds are like a dirty old sock to me. Seriously. Df delete Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Hi again list.I added 4 more pieces to my meteorite sale.Huizopa iron,juancheng individual,nwa 1553 slice, and finally 28 gram slice of springwater pallasite.All half price thru monday.This will be the final add-on's and email on this sale.So look long and prosper. steve Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
