Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 ---BeginMessage--- I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have offered $5000 for several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at and nearly booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is what I am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us dealers, not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I hope some change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not make it here. I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one could be so cool but it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed a complaint saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! The police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really, what kind of crap is that? By the way, I don't suggest going to the police station or calling them regarding the meteorites, you will not get a warm reception. Mike Farmer ---End Message---
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will probably be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or sell them at a low price. Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is possibly a lot more of it to be found. Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable point . Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place. Watch Ebay. Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too. By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable price. Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in it...like a winged ant or something ;-) Just my opinion, John Gwilliam At 08:49 AM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA53-228e3e853f5f249; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:25 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA16-2e03e853f5156; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:09 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21421536DF; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84F4553557 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56793 invoked by uid 7111); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 56790 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2T6Vai22643 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from S0027239467 ([205.158.100.162]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id BAA28468; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2F582.2A3EFD80 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Meteorite Discussion Forum meteorite-list.meteoritecentral.com List-Unsubscribe: http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 23:31:32 -0700 I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have offered $5000 for several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at and nearly booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is what I am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us dealers, not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I hope some change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not make it here. I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one could be so cool but it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed a complaint saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! The police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really,
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
I hope you are right, but now it is being bought by dealers for $12.00 gram . This is not such a large fall, very populated area, so not many lying in fields. Good luck to all wanting some, ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite expensive. If you want to wait, no problem, but then you risk getting nothing of this fall. Time will tell. I saw nothing today, the people who have the large pieces in there homes will not sell, except one that is, I got that one here beside me right now. It smashed a house, and a printer, and a computer game. I got the printer, meteorite, hole cut out of the roof, shigle with hole through it. 1 kilo, of course, NOT FOR SALE WHATSOEVER, NEVER WILL BE. Sorry to the dealers who tried to outbid me and buy out from under me, the woman who sold it to me had enough integrity to keep her word and complete the deal we made over many hours of haggeling and phone calls. Mike Farmer Mike Farmer - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will probably be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or sell them at a low price. Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is possibly a lot more of it to be found. Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable point . Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place. Watch Ebay. Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too. By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable price. Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in it...like a winged ant or something ;-) Just my opinion, John Gwilliam At 08:49 AM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mike and List, Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword. First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse. Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting. Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA# 9210 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za05.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA53-228e3e853f5f249; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:25 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (pairlist.net [216.92.1.92]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA16-2e03e853f5156; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:38:09 -0500 Received: from pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21421536DF; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:32:15 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mu.pair.com (mu.pair.com [209.68.1.23]) by pairlist.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 84F4553557 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 56793 invoked by uid 7111); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Delivered-To: arthur-meteoritecentral:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 56790 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from uhura.concentric.net (206.173.118.93) by mu.pair.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2003 06:31:37 - Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff.concentric.net [206.173.118.90]) by uhura.concentric.net [Concentric SMTP Routing 1.0] id h2T6Vai22643 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from S0027239467 ([205.158.100.162]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.9.1a+patch) id BAA28468; Sat, 29 Mar 2003 01:31:35 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_00AF_01C2F582.2A3EFD80 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600. X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600. Subject: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall
I can deal with it now, I will get him a nice piece from what I have, so anyone else who wants to donate, go ahead. Mike - Original Message - From: John Gwilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bernd Pauli HD [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall May I suggest that someone become the designated party to collect money for a piece of this fall for Art. I would be glad to donate $20.00 or so for such a worthy cause. With Mike Farmer busy working the fall, it doesn't seem appropriate for him to be given the added burden. Any volunteers? Let me know and I'll send $$. John At 12:28 AM 3/30/03 +0100, Bernd Pauli HD wrote: Michael Farmer wrote: ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for sale, price unknown but quite e x p e n s i v e . Time for me to repeat my suggestion however dearly I would like to own a piece myself. If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little birthday present, let's raise the amount we would be willing to donate - say something between two and five dollars! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list