Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall

2003-03-29 Thread SSachs9056
Hi Mike and List,
Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it 
makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans. 
Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the 
Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword.  

First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the 
media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse.

Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum 
doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone 
to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting.

Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA#  9210

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I am also saddened, the people here mostly still 
have their stones, they think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have 
offered $5000 for several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at 
and nearly booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is 
what I am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are 
millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us dealers, 
not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I hope some 
change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not make it 
here.
I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one 
could be so cool but it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed 
a complaint saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! 
The police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really, what kind 
of crap is that? 
By the way, I don't suggest going to the police 
station or calling them regarding the meteorites, you will not get a warm 
reception. 
Mike Farmer
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Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall

2003-03-29 Thread John Gwilliam
My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will probably 
be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or sell 
them at a low price.  Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research 
institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is 
possibly a lot more of it to be found.

Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable 
point .  Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish 
they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place.  Watch 
Ebay.  Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with 
outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too. 
By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable 
price.  Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in 
it...like a winged ant or something ;-)

Just my opinion,

John Gwilliam

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Hi Mike and List,
Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and ounce, it
makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for specimans.
Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the
Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword.
First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the
media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse.
Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field Museum
doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells everyone
to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be interesting.
Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA#  9210

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I am also saddened, the people here mostly still have their stones, they 
think they hit the lotto and made millions. I have offered $5000 for 
several stones today in the 1 kilo range and been laughed at and nearly 
booted out. They think that is an insult and freaked out. This is what I 
am saying, there is no sense of reality now, they all think they are 
millionaires. I expect there will be a few hundred grams for sale by us 
dealers, not much more. I mean, who can buy it here and make any money? I 
hope some change their minds so that we can provide for those who did not 
make it here.
I love meteorites, and love the chase, and this one could be so cool but 
it is already too stressful. Ask Steve Witt. The man filed a complaint 
saying Steve ripped him off by not paying him the $500 an ounce ! The 
police chief told Steve to get out or be arrested. I mean really, 

Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall

2003-03-29 Thread Michael Farmer
I hope you are right, but now it is being bought by dealers for $12.00 gram
.
This is not such a large fall, very populated area, so not many lying in
fields.
Good luck to all wanting some, ill be home in a couple days, I will have
some for sale, price unknown but quite expensive. If you want to wait, no
problem, but then you risk getting nothing of this fall. Time will tell. I
saw nothing today, the people who have the large pieces in there homes will
not sell, except one that is, I got that one here beside me right now. It
smashed a house, and a printer, and a computer game. I got the printer,
meteorite, hole cut out of the roof, shigle with hole through it. 1 kilo, of
course, NOT FOR SALE WHATSOEVER, NEVER WILL BE. Sorry to the dealers who
tried to outbid me and buy out from under me, the woman who sold it to me
had enough integrity to keep her word and complete the deal we made over
many hours of haggeling and phone calls.
Mike Farmer
Mike Farmer
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 My guess is that when the finders show up at the museum, they will
probably
 be told that it's their duty as citizens to donate the meteorites or
sell
 them at a low price.  Believe me, there isn't a museum or a research
 institute out there that will pay $15/g for this material when there is
 possibly a lot more of it to be found.

 Within a few weeks, the market for this new fall will drop to a reasonable
 point .  Then all those greedy people who held out for BIG bucks will wish
 they had sold it to the dealers and collectors in the first place.  Watch
 Ebay.  Within the next few days, several pieces will show up with
 outrageous prices but few, if any, will sell. Those price will adjust too.
 By Easter time there will be a lot of this stone available at a reasonable
 price.  Unless, of course, someone finds signs of life from outer space in
 it...like a winged ant or something ;-)

 Just my opinion,

 John Gwilliam

 At 08:49 AM 3/29/03 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Mike and List,
 Because the news media reported that the going price is $500.00 and
ounce, it
 makes me wonder what the Field Museum is willing to shell out for
specimans.
 Or are people just going to be browbeated for their finds? Seems that the
 Field Museum will be the recipient of a two-edged sword.
 
 First they tell everyone to donate to the Museum / Universities. Then the
 media heats the fire with the $500.00 an ounce curse.
 
 Let me see if I have this right: Media reports $500 an ounce-Field
Museum
 doesn't have those kind of funds (for dinosaur Sue yes), but tells
everyone
 to come Saturday for their big payday.hm. This should be
interesting.
 
 Steve Sachs (also from Chicago area) IMCA#  9210
 
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Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall

2003-03-29 Thread Bernd Pauli HD
Michael Farmer wrote:

 ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for
 sale, price unknown but quite  e x p e n s i v e .

Time for me to repeat my suggestion however
dearly I would like to own a piece myself.
If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little
birthday present, let's raise the amount we
would be willing to donate - say something
between two and five dollars!

Bernd

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Re: Fwd: [meteorite-list] Park Forest fall

2003-03-29 Thread Michael Farmer
I can deal with it now, I will get him  a nice piece from what I have, so
anyone else who wants to donate, go ahead.
Mike
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 May I suggest that someone become the designated party to collect money
for
 a piece of this fall for Art.  I would be glad to donate $20.00 or so for
 such a worthy cause.  With Mike Farmer busy working the fall, it doesn't
 seem appropriate for him to be given the added burden.

 Any volunteers?  Let me know and I'll send $$.

 John

 At 12:28 AM 3/30/03 +0100, Bernd Pauli HD wrote:
 Michael Farmer wrote:
 
   ill be home in a couple days, I will have some for
   sale, price unknown but quite  e x p e n s i v e .
 
 Time for me to repeat my suggestion however
 dearly I would like to own a piece myself.
 If US$1.00 is not enough for Art's little
 birthday present, let's raise the amount we
 would be willing to donate - say something
 between two and five dollars!
 
 Bernd
 
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