Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996

2006-12-21 Thread Gary K. Foote
Bill,

Any businessman whose efforts are 'blown off' by the competition is not a smart 
businessman if they do not respond.  I would rather state my position rather 
than be 
perceived as slinking off to lick my wounds in private.

I was not aware that metlist 'bigshots' were biding their time.  Biding their 
time for 
what?  A reason to discredit me?

I will not apologise for defending my business. Why should I?  

'Well balanced'...  I remain so.

Gary

On 20 Dec 2006 at 22:24, Bill wrote:

 Gary,
 
 I respect free enterprise. However, you should have blown their offer off 
 just as they
 initially dismissed your offer. Your reaction was kind of odd as you are 
 usually well
 balanced.
 
 The point is that you opened the door for the met-list bigshots who have 
 obviously been
 biding their time. A brief apology would be the best course for now. Let it 
 slide.
 
 Bill
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:54:18 -0500
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996
  
  Petty capatilasm, Paul.  Your timing - one day after my own post about
  discounted dealer
  listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post
  was aimed
  toward.  It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'.   Thanks for
  the clear shot
  across the bows.
  
  To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for
  FREE.  I raise you
  one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE.
  
  Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL;
  
  htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html
  
  Gary
  
  On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote:
  
  Greetings Everyone!
  
  As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE
  Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times
  for accuracy.
  
  The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for
  10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per
  DAY!
  
  Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now
  been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing
  over
  600 unique visitors per DAY!
  
  Please review your FREE listings at:
  
  http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
  http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/
  
  Happy Holidays!
  
  Paul
  
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996

2006-12-21 Thread Gary K. Foote
Paul,

 First, I think your presentation to the school and some of your posts to 
 the list have been excellent. 

Thank you.

 But you are the one who
 shot across our bow first as your email to the list on Dec 22, 2005 will 
 show. 
 
  From the list archives.
 http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2005-December/018771.html
 
 1. When a list member informed you that we already provide a free list 
 to everyone your response was - Yes, but you have to know what you want.
 I took that as a negative view of the service we have been providing 
 since 1996

If you read the whole post you referenced rather than the one line you quoted 
you will 
see it was, and still is, an attempt to provide a different kind of service, 
providing 
value to meteorite dealers wishing to reach out to their market.  My comment, 
which you 
did quote, was intended to show the difference between your listings and mine - 
nothing 
about that can be construed as a shot across the bows.
.
 
 2. Your statement, If you want to be listed in what will quickly become 
 the premier meteorite dealer's listing website...
 We've been the premier Meteorite Dealer listing website since 1996 and 
 you have publicly  stated  your intent to change that.
 
 3. Your statement, And I bet I can take top position in the major 
 search engines too.  I've been at this for 13 years now.  This
 further proves you are trying to knock us out of our #1 spot and implies 
 that I lack the seo skills necessary to remain #1.

My implication was that I know SEO as well as anyone else and that there would 
be value 
in my efforts.

 I do disagree with some of your business tactics though.  Pumping up 
 your posts in November and December to have people
 look at your website and drive up your stats and then make a statement 
 (which is accurate for December) that you have x amount
 of unique visitors is quite misleading.  Everyone should look at the 
 months before November and December to see the real stats.
 http://gaccin.pair.com/wx/webalizer/meteorite-dealers.com/
 This is the reason I made my post the way that I did.  I also calculated 
 that you would not be able to remain silent.  If you had remained
 silent I would not be making this post.

Current stats show trends.  Valuable information to any potential advertiser.  
As a past 
owner of a full-service ad agency I am well aware that metrics for every 
advertising 
venue change over time and that, as they grow, so does the value of advertising 
in that 
venue.  Plain and simple Business 101.  As for 'pumping up my posts', I post 
when I have 
something to say - which is not on a regular basis.  Posting for the sake of 
posting 
something/anything would be pumping up my posts with intent.  This I do not do.

Where is the proof of your statistical claims?  I noticed you did not post a 
link to your 
stats for all to see.  Are we to simply believe your statement of 1000 unique 
visitors 
per day as a fact without corroberation?

As for your calculating that I could not remain silent - your statement simply 
shows that 
your post was a clear attempt to goad me to defend my position.  Well, I do so 
vehemently 
and gladly.  I have put a lot of time and effort into meteorite-dealers.com and 
will 
continue to defend my efforts.
 
 Competition is great for everyone.  It has kept us on our toes and our 
 sites and services are better today because of you.

I am glad that you recognize that your site needed competition to improve.  I 
am glad to 
have been that competition as well.  
 
 Thank you for making us better.

You're welcome.

It is a shame that two such sites cannot co-exist without animosity.  I believe 
your post 
was made out of fear that your site's relevance may be negatively impacted by 
meteorite-
dealers.com's existence.

Gary
 
 Paul Harris
 
 
 
 ***
  From Dec 22, 2005
 Yes, but you have to know what you want.  This will be listings of all 
 dealers who want to participate by location.  And I bet I can take top 
 position in the major search engines too.  I've been at this for 13 
 years now.
 Gary
 
 Gary
 
 On 22 Dec 2005 at 8:04, steve eshbaugh wrote:
 
 
 I think they have something like that already out there similar to that.
 It's called the The Meteorite Exchange
 
 Steve
 
 Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Listers,
 
 In case y'all didn't know it, I am in the business of website design 
 and search engine
 optimization. I am creating a website to list all meteorite dealers 
 worldwide [if
 possible anyway] and would like to include your business in the 
 database.
 What's in it for you? Business, plain and simple. As an example, I 
 created NorthConwayLodgings.com on Dec 12th. As of yesterday it is 
 #1 on MSN and will be
 penetrating the top listings in Yahoo and Google within the next few 
 months.
 This new Meteorite Dealers site will be broken down by region and 
 will launch within a
 week. It 

Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996

2006-12-20 Thread Gary K. Foote
Petty capatilasm, Paul.  Your timing - one day after my own post about 
discounted dealer 
listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post was 
aimed 
toward.  It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'.   Thanks for the 
clear shot 
across the bows.  

To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for FREE.  I 
raise you 
one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE.

Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL;

htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html

Gary

On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote:

 Greetings Everyone!
 
 As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE
 Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times
 for accuracy.
 
 The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for
 10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per DAY!
 
 Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now
 been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing over
 600 unique visitors per DAY!
 
 Please review your FREE listings at:
 
 http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/
 
 Happy Holidays!
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Dealer Listings since 1996

2006-12-20 Thread Paul Harris
Dear Gary,

First, I think your presentation to the school and some of your posts to 
the list have been excellent. But you are the one who
shot across our bow first as your email to the list on Dec 22, 2005 will 
show. 

 From the list archives.
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2005-December/018771.html

1. When a list member informed you that we already provide a free list 
to everyone your response was - Yes, but you have to know what you want.
I took that as a negative view of the service we have been providing 
since 1996.

2. Your statement, If you want to be listed in what will quickly become 
the premier meteorite dealer's listing website...
We've been the premier Meteorite Dealer listing website since 1996 and 
you have publicly  stated  your intent to change that.

3. Your statement, And I bet I can take top position in the major 
search engines too.  I've been at this for 13 years now.  This
further proves you are trying to knock us out of our #1 spot and implies 
that I lack the seo skills necessary to remain #1.

I do disagree with some of your business tactics though.  Pumping up 
your posts in November and December to have people
look at your website and drive up your stats and then make a statement 
(which is accurate for December) that you have x amount
of unique visitors is quite misleading.  Everyone should look at the 
months before November and December to see the real stats.
http://gaccin.pair.com/wx/webalizer/meteorite-dealers.com/
This is the reason I made my post the way that I did.  I also calculated 
that you would not be able to remain silent.  If you had remained
silent I would not be making this post.

Competition is great for everyone.  It has kept us on our toes and our 
sites and services are better today because of you.

Thank you for making us better.

Paul Harris



***
 From Dec 22, 2005
Yes, but you have to know what you want.  This will be listings of all 
dealers who want to participate by location.  And I bet I can take top 
position in the major search engines too.  I've been at this for 13 
years now.
Gary

Gary

On 22 Dec 2005 at 8:04, steve eshbaugh wrote:


I think they have something like that already out there similar to that.
It's called the The Meteorite Exchange

Steve

Gary K. Foote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Listers,

In case y'all didn't know it, I am in the business of website design 
and search engine
optimization. I am creating a website to list all meteorite dealers 
worldwide [if
possible anyway] and would like to include your business in the 
database.
What's in it for you? Business, plain and simple. As an example, I 
created NorthConwayLodgings.com on Dec 12th. As of yesterday it is 
#1 on MSN and will be
penetrating the top listings in Yahoo and Google within the next few 
months.
This new Meteorite Dealers site will be broken down by region and 
will launch within a
week. It should be placed well before the Tucson show at MSN and If 
you want to be
listed in what will quickly become the premier meteorite dealer's 
listing website just
shoot me an email using the email link near the end of this post. 
Click it and the
subject should be included in your to me email automatically.
**


Gary K. Foote wrote:
 Petty capatilasm, Paul.  Your timing - one day after my own post about 
 discounted dealer 
 listings at meteorite-dealers.com - leaves no doubt as to whom your post was 
 aimed 
 toward.  It smacks of 'My meteorites are better than yours'.   Thanks for the 
 clear shot 
 across the bows.  

 To meet your challenge I offer the same - listings with full links for FREE.  
 I raise you 
 one - logo graphics with any dealers listing for FREE.

 Any dealer is FREE to submit their FREE listing at the following URL;

 htpp://www.meteorite-dealers.com/submit.html

 Gary

 On 19 Dec 2006 at 18:22, Paul Harris wrote:

   
 Greetings Everyone!

 As part of our annual end of year reminder, please review your FREE
 Meteorite Dealer listings on The Meteorite Exchange and Meteorite-Times
 for accuracy.

 The Meteorite Dealers Listings on meteorite.com have now been online for
 10 years and as of this month is seeing over 1000 unique visitors per DAY!

 Meteorite-Times Yellowpage Listings on meteorite-times.com have now
 been online for 1 year and as of this month Meteorite-Times is seeing over
 600 unique visitors per DAY!

 Please review your FREE listings at:

 http://www.meteorite.com/dealer_list.htm
 http://www.meteorite-times.com/yellowpages/

 Happy Holidays!

 Paul




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